The Clockwork Mansion

I've just started using Photoshop and have a lot to learn, but i'd like to get some oppinion on my work so far.(WARNING, SOME OF THESE ARE NSFW)

So here it is:
my RPG buddies' chars (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5889/grupablackui7.jpg)
a buxom friend of mine (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8682/gerynamednx4.jpg) -NSFW
our resident lightning mage (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3803/hastornamedbl5.jpg)
the traditional elvish archer (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3383/guaslagannamedzk2.jpg)
The Archmage (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7066/didbonamedau1.jpg)
a friend with a thing for colourfull socks (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1993/elikotemc1.jpg) -NSFW
that buxom vixen again (http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7079/gerymagesnicanj4.jpg) -NSFW
towel trouble (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3160/boripoddu6adl4.jpg) -NSFW
french fries and a lose bath robe (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1610/ivaizkusitelkataea0.jpg) -NSFW
casual reading (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7400/borineglijeov7.jpg) -NSFW

These are all pictures of friends i've done as requests and they all liked them very much, but i'd like an honest oppinion, so i turn to you guys.

Here are some older black and white pics, some of the first i got inked.  Some may be considered NSFW!

sin city style girl (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1231/dsc00155ac9.jpg)
angel warrior (http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/743/dsc00156ym8.jpg)
tennis men (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7141/tennismen7om8.jpg)

here is something I made for llearch

valentine box (http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9352/llearchavatardz4.jpg)

Here is my first fanart of DMFA and something i did as a request for Zedd.

Dan and Abel fighting (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4502/danandabelfight1an5.jpg)
Tiefling (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3423/zeddavatarvh5.jpg)

Here are two new projects of mine, still in ink stage, but i Thought they'll be fun to compare later on with the finished versions.

valkyrie (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1166/p9190194qh2.jpg)
Werewolf knight   (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1599/vulkbm2.jpg)

 Here is some old B&W concept art I did for a strategy computer game. The game unfortunately didn't reach completion.

watch tower (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6030/watchtowerfg4.jpg)
workshop (http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9130/workshopth7.jpg)
barracks (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/104/barracksrn4.jpg)

Here is a little somthing I did for Lysander, sort of my version of his fursona:

Lysander (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7878/lysanderavadc8.jpg)

 Here is a pic done by one of my best freinds, I only did the color. His specialty are dinosaurs and dragons, but as you can see he copes with the human body quite nicely!  :)

Female elf by JB (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9036/elfajbcoloredxx6.jpg) -NSFW

Here is my view of Gabi's fursona!

Gabi (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8096/gabicolor1cv1.jpg)

Here is a picture of a naughty Santa outfit!

naugthy Santa outfit (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6941/svetlapodaruk1ku9.jpg) - NSFW

And here is personal favourite of mine, I've been making this pic for about 3 years now- a little bit at a time! It was actually the my first attempt at photoshop coloring. Now it's finished!

scorpicore demoness (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8712/demonessblackxm4.jpg)

And here are two new pics from the Unicorn:

Elf Druid (http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/347/elfdruid1lg3.jpg)
Druid magic (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3470/nakedcolor1gu9.jpg) -NSFW- NUDITY!!!

Here, for the first time I tried using painted lines (check the jewels and the strings on the hair).

Some fresh stuff:

Green haired blade girl (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3470/mangohairhj1.jpg) - could be considered NSFW...I think

And here is my own version of catwoman  :mowhappy

catwoman (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5586/bdsmkitty1tl8.jpg) -a bit NSFW

This one has been in the works for some time and I finally finished it while experimenting with Burn and Dodge.

And here is the commission for Tapewolf- my version of Jakob

Jakob Pettersohn (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/708/jctrue1bs3.jpg)

And here is another one for the album:

Keaton the Black Jackal (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3498/keatshot1np2.jpg)

Here goes Mao:

Mao Laoren (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6466/maobattleoz2.jpg)

Here is what I drew for 2008 Secret Santa:

naughty boys and girls (http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5181/secretsantagiftart1ru7.jpg)

Here is something I whipped up in like 15 min. It's an attempt at a tribal style dragon. I think it came out neat.

Tribal Dragon (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2794/tribaldragon1.jpg)

Here is one I've had in the works for quite some time- it is a request from a girlfriend of mine who wanted me to draw her like a fairy.

A Flower Fairy (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6651/feqtamalvina.jpg)- NSFW

Another delayed request for a friend of mine's girlfriend:

Keeper of the Arcane (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8886/renimagesnica.jpg)

And here is the first of what I plan on being a series of funny pics featuring Kipiru and Beever having a wacky fun time:

Kipiru and Beever at the beach (http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4699/kipiruandbeevervacation.jpg)

Here is my present to Ren from the Covert Courtesy Commutation:

Ren Gaulen (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2294/rengaulenv.jpg)

And here is a Tiger Ninja I did for a friend of mine.

Hasstorr- The White Ninja Tiger (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1568/hasstiger.jpg)

This is the portrait I did of Corgatha's gloomy character(he's serious, so watch it :)) It turned out really nice, but I like all my art, so now it's your turn to give an opinion:

Corgatha Taldothar (http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5580/corgathataldothar.jpg)

And here is my present to Zedd, a rather voluptuous character of his creation:

Ecclesia- the elf demoness (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7654/darkgreendemoness.jpg)-NSFW

And here is what I did as characters for the 1000 project pic:

Matilda (http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1377/matildaflatcolor.jpg)
Lorenda (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6127/lorendaflatcolor.jpg)
Fa'lina (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4596/falinaflatcolor.jpg)
Alexi (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1804/alexiflat.jpg) - this didn't make it to the 1000 pic, but still, here it is
Devin (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2397/devinflat.jpg)
Regina (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/743/reginaflat.jpg)
Aaryanna (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3656/aariannaflat.jpg)
Regina, Devin and Aary interaction (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/96/chaseinthesand.jpg)

I may try and do the rest of the characters of the comic in the same flat color fashion, just to complete the set :)

Here is one I did for a friend of mine:

Pony Valkyrie (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5318/vikingponycolor.jpg) - possibly NSFW

And presenting:

Wuffnpuff's character Chance (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9139/wuffyschance.jpg) - NSFW

Yesterday I ran into a buried treasure folks, something I thought was long lost art. So here they are- unveiled after 7 years of gathering dust:

Hastor (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6718/hastor.jpg)- the main hero of the story- a good vampire with a hidden past.
Davius (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3127/davius.jpg)- the villain- also a vampire and Hastor's brother.
Spaiterus (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6687/spaiterus.jpg)- the right hand of Davius- a vampire-to-be, this schemer has his own hidden agenda.
Hesian (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8594/hesian.jpg)- a local youth that joins Hastor- brother of the girl that stands between Hastor and Davius.

Presenting my gift for Cogidubnus from the CCC:

Cogidubnus (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1713/cogidubnusslash.jpg)

NEW:Here are two pics that have been in the making for quite some time.

Dancing  (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9711/dancingqueensc.jpg)

Aisha and Gareeku (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6924/aishaandgareekucolor.jpg)

And here is my vision of Dekari's fursona:

Dekari (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7219/dekaric.jpg)

Here goes my version of E-voyager's fursona:

E-voyager (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8952/evoyager.jpg)

Here goes my first Project Future fanart featuring the character that have appeared so far in the story:

The whole gang (http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9048/grouppicpf1.jpg)- a bit of NSFW in the background  :mowwink

And the pin up girls at the back:

Salomere- Dorcan's mother (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5026/wow2.jpg) -INSANELY NSFW!!!
Ruby (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1715/wow1gqu.jpg) -feathered, but still INSANELY NSFW!!!

Right, so here is my gift for Dannysaysnoo form the CCC- open for critique:
Danny (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3066/dannysaysnoo.png)

and a character of Ghostwish:
Zanfib (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4407/zanfib.png)

Yet another girlfriend's fantasy self! Curious enough she is camera-shy, but has nothing against me drawing her. Not that I'm complaining or anything  :mowwink

Jasmin the fire witch (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/640/jasminawhite.png)

Some long overdue projects of mine:

Kathia (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5804/katqlotusc.png) -a friend of mine that practices yoga- a bit NSFW

Sexy Matilda Formal (http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9666/matildahotc.png) -my idea of Formal wear for Matilda, or at least of some really alluring lingerie. Look out Dan! A bit NSFW!

NEW:Here are two pics inspired by my new girlfriend (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9918/bunnysunny.jpg)
Sunny Bunny (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/858/tanqbunny.png)
Tania The Vampire (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5769/tan4etovampc.png) -she has a thing for vampires, a real Twilight fan.

NEW:Some sci-fi this time:

Space Adventurer Tania (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/536/starridertanq.png)

NOTE: I take requests for art at no price except for a bit of patience ;)

Some comments would be appreciated

This is not a chatroom, Kipiru. People go days or weeks without showing up.

11 hours is nothing, on the scale of things.

Ugh.  Just a request.. could you tag these with NSFW or even Possibly NSFW next time as needed?

Anyways, not much feed back from me right now.  I'll check these out after work.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 26, 2008, 05:36:44 AM
This is not a chatroom, Kipiru. People go days or weeks without showing up.

11 hours is nothing, on the scale of things.

Sorry for being impatient, I'm new at this. And what exactly is NSFW!

Not Safe For Work, it implies any thing graphically violent or sexual or anything that would not be good to be seen looking at during work or school.
Your stuff is a bit on the NSFW side, and you may want to make a note of that in your first post. It's better to err on the side of caution in these cases.

Ok, thanks for the headsup!

Nice set of pictures of here

This is some VERY sweeeeeet art, here. Love the party groupshot (and the women individuals ;))

Alright, NSFW factors aside, these are some pretty sweet pictures man.  I like how they mix a bit of cartoon look with realistic anatomy.  It kinda reminds me of the models in WoW, which I'm a fairly big fan of.  The only thing that I really don't like is the shininess on them.  I'm not even certain why I don't like it.  Maybe it just seems out of place to me, I don't know.  Either way, that's a very minor criticism as it doesn't really take away from what you have put up, it's just something that doesn't seem right to me.

Quote from: Mowser on August 27, 2008, 07:31:53 AM
Alright, NSFW factors aside, these are some pretty sweet pictures man.  I like how they mix a bit of cartoon look with realistic anatomy.  It kinda reminds me of the models in WoW, which I'm a fairly big fan of.  The only thing that I really don't like is the shininess on them.  I'm not even certain why I don't like it.  Maybe it just seems out of place to me, I don't know.  Either way, that's a very minor criticism as it doesn't really take away from what you have put up, it's just something that doesn't seem right to me.

Do you mean the shininess of the skin of some of the girls, cause I've had my doubts about that too.

Yeah.  I dunno.  It just feels out of place, or maybe unnatural to me.  I love the colors also.  I didn't mention that earlier.  :3

Aright, normally I like to crit. every piece individually, but in this case I'd pretty much end up saying the same thing for all of em, so I'll abbreviate.

Probably the weakest element to the pics. here, IMHO, is the hair and cloth. The hair doesn't look very fiberous, and the cloth doesn't really fall right. They lack volume. I think loosening up the lines would help, more flowey and sweeping strokes.

Behind that, you've got a lot of gray along the linework. Gotta love antialiasing, eh? I don't know if you just add color in photoshop, or if you ink and color in photoshop, but I have a pretty good idea how to fix these either way:
-If you ink and color in PS, put the ink and the color on separate layers. That way, you can paint under the lines. (This is what I used to do, but I found I could ink much faster on paper).
-If you ink on paper before you scan it into Photoshop, get a really high res scan and make it black and white. Around 600 DPI works for me. If you find a lot of the lines don't get scanned, adjust the threshold, or contrast, of the scan so that it treats lighter grays as "black". Anyway... magic wand the white and delete it, then fill in color as needed. You'll probably end up with black shmutz all over the place, as it's impossible to get the contrast perfect, but you can just lasso and delete that. Remember to turn off antialiasing on any selection tools you use! Then, when you're done coloring, convert it to jpg or gif or png, or whatever, then shrink it down (If you use two layers, for ink and color, you MUST convert before resizing or the two layers won't resize in synch, and you'll get gray antialiasing anyway). The resize will take care of any antialiasing you do need, and your lines will smooth out.

Your anatomy is on a good start, but you've got some work to do. Some of the proportions and under-structure are a little weird. Also, the anime faces are a little strange with the "realistic" anatomy (THere are plenty of animes out there that do this, tho).

A note on shinyness, especially on this (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8682/gerynamednx4.jpg) one and the hair on this (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3160/boripoddu6adl4.jpg) one. The gloss might look better if the shapes were slimmer, sharper, and pointed rather than rounded at the ends. I'm guessing you're using the airbrush tool for these. Try using the selection tool and fill command. Alternatively, you could use the vector tool, but that thing is a PAIN. I use the vector tool when I need to shine up hair, cause I can fill, move the vector shape, adjust it, and fill again. Very quick, but the tools for vectors aren't very intuitive and have a sharp learning curve.

All in all, this is some really good work. Your characters are very expressive, in pose and face. I like your costume/character designs too. I know this seems like a LOT of criticism, but I think your work is good. Not great, but good.

Thanks Fox! As I said, I,m just starting on the Photoshop, so your advice is priceless. I'm aware of most of the problems you point out, but i just don't have the Photoshop training to deal with them. That is why I need people like you who know what they're doing to point me out solutions. Thanks again!

For the record, I'm better at critiquing and giving advice then I am at Photoshop. So, remember that I'm only a step or two ahead of you and I only got where I am now cause *I* had advice from *my* betters (Mostly my mother, Turnsky here on the boards, and google searching tutorials). If you're interested, you can see my work (Shameless plug) here (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4729.0.html).

i have posted only my colored art so far, cause I was seeking advice about it, but if interest comes up I'll post some old black-and-whites as well  :)

Here are some older black and white pics, some of the first i got inked.  Some may be considered NSFW!

sin city style girl (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1231/dsc00155ac9.jpg)

angel warrior (http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/743/dsc00156ym8.jpg)

tennis men (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7141/tennismen7om8.jpg)


Enjoy!

That's some interesting pics there, Kipuru.

The second one in particular seems like there's a heck of a lot of work in the wings.


If I might be slightly critical, though, the first two are basically identical poses, with different clothing. Was that intentional, or oversight?

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 11, 2008, 05:02:48 PM
If I might be slightly critical, though, the first two are basically identical poses, with different clothing. Was that intentional, or oversight?

You're right, I hadn't noticed. No, the pose resemblance is a coincidence. It' s just a standart pose i use for females, so I can see how it may look like a simple clothes change over the same model. But I'll keep in mind to diverse the poses.

I love the detail on the second one, hut she's got a sever case of antigravity boobs.

The first one's really dramatic. I like it.

Mmm. On second looks, I note the second one doesn't actually have anything supporting that huge shoulderpad construction.

This might be just the design, of course. ;-] but the closest thing to actually supporting them visible is their lower edge on the tops of her breasts.

Which wouldn't exactly be comfortable.

It's all magic  :mowhappy

Quote from: Kipiru on September 12, 2008, 02:19:59 AM
It's all magic  :mowhappy

So, a wizard did it?

I want his job.

Cool pics, by the way. I really don't have enough experience to comment fully on them, but cool nonetheless.

Thanks, feel free to check out my other art as well Jairus.

sorry to double post but here is something I made for llearch

valentine box (http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9352/llearchavatardz4.jpg)

*giggle*

*gasp*

Vore!

Very nice pictures

Here is my first fanart of DMFA and something i did as a request for Zedd.

Dan and Abel fighting (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4502/danandabelfight1an5.jpg)

Tiefling (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3423/zeddavatarvh5.jpg)

Is there a reason you're making a new thread for every piece of art you make, Kipiru?

Unlike everyone else, who has a single thread and adds content to that thread?


And is there a reason I shouldn't just merge all three threads into one?

Sorry Llearch, I didn't think it was that wrong, my apologies.

And if you can merge them then go ahead, I won't mind.

It's not entirely wrong, it's just not how everyone else is doing it. And it clutters up the forum...

Pretty good likeness, though perhaps a little over-muscled.  That may just be that Amber (claims she) draws them under-muscled though.

In terms of critique, a couple of other things may be worth pointing out.  Firstly, Abel's kilt and his chest/belly fur are the same colour and the same lustre which makes it look a little confusing.  If you're in the mood to change it, a quick fix might be to remove all or part of the sheen from his fur and keep the kilt shiny.
Also, I think Abel's ears are the wrong shape.  It looks like they should start out wide and narrow to a point with the round blob thing on the end, yours are almost the reverse of that.

Nonetheless, it's an impressive picture.

Thanks for the merge Llearch, I promise no more side topics.

And thanks for the reply Tapewolf, I acknowledge that the characters may be a bit off from what Amber draws and I'll try to do better next time, but I'm not backing down on Dan being more muscular than seen in the original comic. It's just the way I see him as an adventurer, he should be a tough fellow to be able to wield large swords.

Wielding large swords is more in the wrists and arms than in the rest of the body. Particularly, IME, in the lower arms, rather than the upper arms.

... Actually, ask Cogidubnus which muscles get used most; I'm guessing based on a spear-based martial art, whereas he actually does the pointy stuff, so will be able to give you a more accurate suggestion.


Erm. That's not a criticism, btw; from what Amber has suggested, I think the reason Dan doesn't look beefy is that when she started, she couldn't draw beefy. So a more muscled version is probably closer to what she'd _like_ him to look like... if that makes sense.

... although, by that token, I'm inclined to suggest that Abel is then overly muscled... Can't win, heh? ;-]

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 19, 2008, 07:20:48 AM

... although, by that token, I'm inclined to suggest that Abel is then overly muscled... Can't win, heh? ;-]

Apparently not, next time I'll just draw them nearly undead or skeletons  :grin

Boys fight alot as they say, But nice job on the coloring...Also thanks for making Cassandra :D

It was my pleasure.

The image of Dan and Abel fighting looks far too busy in terms of composition. And it feels like you added Fa'Lina in there just because you wanted to fill space and considering the colours of all the characters, it makes her seem out of place and like she shouldn't be in the image at all.  Fa'Lina is a tricky character to pull of. Her size and her colours make her really difficult to put in the background as her very nature is one that requires the center of attention.  And as such, the image just looks really crowded.

In multi-character shots, sometimes less is more and you need to find a way to allow ones eyes travel from one part of the image to the rest smoothly so a person can take in the image as a whole. Right now my eyes keep bouncing from one point to another and cannot find a proper focus so it means I end up missing a lot of details and focusing on the wrong ones.

When doing a group-shot, especially a possible fight scene, unless one is using perspective and foreshadowing, a good bit of advice is to actually draw the characters separate and by themselves and then add them together (at least if you are doing this digitally) which allows one to space things out and make sure they dont look smushed together.

That and the way Abel's wings coming out of his back seems really off.  They look like you could snap them off at the base like a twig or that they should just be doing that due to the weight of the wings themselves.

I agree that the muscles on the guys is not exactly how I would normally portray them. Dan and Abel are both fighters that rely on being fast rather than hitting hard.   But I figure that is artistic interpretation and you are free to interpret however you wish.

The weapons look interesting, and you have a good eye for detail. I just think it would have better presented if it didn't feel so compact. 

Apologies if this sounds a bit harsh and somewhat rude.  Honestly, this is a really bad time for me to be commenting and I normally would wait till my actual weekend in order to give a better thought out commentary.  But since you seemed adament about getting a response right away while I am in the middle of trying to do a dozen things at once, I am rushing this response to get it done.

I do appreciate the time and effort you put in to do a gift art, and I am definately not trying to sound like I am slamming you.  I am just incredibly terrible at critiques and evne less so when I don't have the time to sit down and word things better.

Wow Amber, thanks!

  Sorry to have bothered you at a time like this, but your reply was everything I hoped for, so thanks again. Yes, I do realise the picture looks a bit crowded, but that is a bit on purpose. I just like such pictures(like your group pic of the Egyptian girls), though i will take your advise about drawing separate characters. Fa'lina is awfully hard to draw in color, I admit, so hats off to you for that. And I've taken my fare share on critiques for Abel and all of them deserved. I'll have to try harder next time.

Here are two new projects of mine, still in ink stage, but i Thought they'll be fun to compare later on with the finished versions.

valkyrie (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1166/p9190194qh2.jpg)

Werewolf knight   (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1599/vulkbm2.jpg)

For the first one, a couple of points. One, the chest of the horse is fairly large; this is possibly ok, depending on how big the horse really is - you don't get a large chest unless the rest of the horse is to scale as well..

Secondly, the rider's left knee is right up near the front of the horse's shoulder. This means the rider is sitting right on the very front of the saddle; something that isn't borne out by the rest of the picture.


The second image, the first thing that appears to me is the left hand is twisted back upon itself a little much; rather than being a clawing grip, it looks like arthritis... Other than that, it's very detailed, and very impressive.

Do you see what I mean?

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2008, 03:25:24 AM

Do you see what I mean?

     Perfectly, horses are a great weakpoint of mine, but I keep trying. As for the arm, I don't really think it's that bent, but my anatomy is still way off so it could be.

Just as a suggestion, you might try looking for some pictures of people riding horses - things like showjumping or something - and see where they sit on the horse.

Reason for "pictures" and not "picture" is that they'll give you a sense of where _different people_ fit on _different horses_ - which will give you some idea of the variety, but also where the variety stops.

Perhaps youtube?

Will do Chief!

I can't resolve the first image, but with the second one looks nice.
Aside from the hand, which llearch has already mentioned, I see what I think may be a few proportional problems with the head.  Firstly, the head itself looks a little small, though that may be exaggerated by the armour.  The muzzle may be a touch short, depending on what kind of an animal he is.  If he's a fox or wolf, I think the ears should ideally be larger.
Apart from that, it's good work.

Quote from: Tapewolf on October 07, 2008, 04:49:50 AM
I can't resolve the first image.

     Fixed it.

Quote from: Kipiru on October 07, 2008, 05:17:47 AM
     Fixed it.

Thanks.  The horse looks a little small and dumpy, but I think llearch has a better handle on it than I have.  Again, with the wolf-like creature, the ears are very small.  Wolves have quite substantial ears, at least twice the size of the ones you've drawn.  Other than that, it looks very good.  Are these commissions or something?

I'll keep in mind about the wolf and horse, guess i have to better my animals. These are not exactly commisions, but more like gift art, people ask me to draw them some character and I do it at no charge.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 19, 2008, 07:20:48 AM
Wielding large swords is more in the wrists and arms than in the rest of the body. Particularly, IME, in the lower arms, rather than the upper arms.

Nope. A lot of power comes from the hips and when you throw a shot, and it goes all the way from the triceps to the wrist.

But I digress.

The horse is actually pretty good, it's just the chest is actually too *short*. A horses ribcage almost comes down to it's elbow. Also, she should be sitting a lot farther back on it, and after the knees the legs lay straight down.

A note on the wolves in both pics... their muzzles look kinda short.

Your linework is gray. This really hurts the colored pics posted earlier on, and hurts readability in the B/W ones.

Man, I had a really good crit. all ready for the Dan and Abel image, but then I saw how long ago it was posted and Amber had commented.

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 12:52:59 AM

Man, I had a really good crit. all ready for the Dan and Abel image, but then I saw how long ago it was posted and Amber had commented.

   Soo, what's stoping you?  :)

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 12:52:59 AM

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 19, 2008, 07:20:48 AM
Wielding large swords is more in the wrists and arms than in the rest of the body. Particularly, IME, in the lower arms, rather than the upper arms.

Nope. A lot of power comes from the hips and when you throw a shot, and it goes all the way from the triceps to the wrist.

But I digress.

I believe my point was that the biceps wouldn't be quite as prominent, to the exclusion of the rest of the arms, although it's been a while and I might well have changed my mind by now. ;-]

I do thank you for the correction, though.

llearch: Check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToegwtZXuUY&feature=related) vid out. Around 4:20 they show some really good footage of the kind of combat I'm talking about. All the really fast, powerful hits? You can see them putting their whole body behind the shot. The weaker looking swings are from the shoulder.

Kipriu:*Knuckle Crack* Well, if you're inviting me...

First of all... gray lines.  This really cripples the pic, not only with Fa'lina but also Abels hands, any edge against the green background, and all of their clothes. I cant even tell what pose Fa's right (Her right, our left) hand is in. I'd either color them (a style that still lacks contrast, I find), or make em dead black. I don't know what your process is, how much is on paper vs. on computer, so I can't really make a suggestion there. (I can say this much: scan it at high res, convert it to a black and white image to get rid of any antialiasing and gray lines, then color. Shrink it down to 50 or 25 % to get your antialiasing back.)

Technical notes on anatomy: The sternomastoid (The most prominent muscle in the neck, from the front) meets up with the center of the collar bones. Dan and Abel's don't quite seem to make it there. Fa'lina doesn't seem to have a tricep. Dan's arm should be tucked further back, our view of it should be partially blocked by his pec. The muscles between Dan's elbow and the wrist aren't quite built correctly (they shouldn't bulge that much, even if there is that much mass to them). Fa's hips should start their outward taper much higher up on her waist. For women, as soon as the torso stops curving in, it starts curving out.

A note on Abel's saber guard.... it should be widest at the top, and taper as it goes down. From our viewing angle, it should be triangular. The guard he has will just get his fingers sliced up since he has no cross-guard or bell. Also, he holds his swords like a sissy, keeping his arms tucked in. Lift his elbows up and out. His thumb is abnormally bent which makes the grip look weird. The membrane of his wing doesn't connect with his back. Lastly, his pectoral doesn't meld into his shoulder properly: it has a bulge that meets his bicep, when the the entire pectoral muscle sorta folds into the armpit.

I'm not gonna comment too much on the wings, as just about every single fantasy artist (Internet and otherwise) seems to be incapable of drawing realistic wings. Including me. They do look fairly stiff and unnatural, though.

Your shading gets a little weird in places. All of the shading seems to be ambient, to imply shape to muscles and such, but there's no direct lighting. The shade on Abels dark patches (fur and clothes) seems to be inverted; the shadows are lighter rather then darker. It really hurts readability.

Now, despite all these comments, I don't think this is a bad pic by any stretch of the imagination. The facial expressions are great, Fa'Linas hand is delicately poised, just so, on Abels sword, and although it isn't accurate to the characters I get a kick over the exaggerated musles on those two. I like the design of Fa's dress, too.

Nice work.

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 04:34:02 AM
I can say this much: scan it at high res, convert it to a black and white image to get rid of any antialiasing and gray lines, then color. Shrink it down to 50 or 25 % to get your antialiasing back.

Oh.  That's how we do Project Future.  Looking at the multilayers from other artists, I always assumed it was a quick hack for the weak and inexperienced...

It's not a hack if it gets results. The final product is all that matters.

I think Turnsky does the same thing, I got a lot of advice from him when I was developing my process for DSOF.

I use Photoshop, and the nice thing about a straight up BW scan is that you can magic wand and fill huge areas of color very quickly, and if you want to shade you can magic-wand again to set up a mask.

I still use separate layers for coloring and inking, among others (Most commonly a layer for panels/borders, and one for speech balloons. Sometimes SFX (http://www.northernelectric.ca/~whitefox/comics/dmfa/dsof13.html), when I need it).

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 04:34:02 AM
llearch: Check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToegwtZXuUY&feature=related) vid out. Around 4:20 they show some really good footage of the kind of combat I'm talking about. All the really fast, powerful hits? You can see them putting their whole body behind the shot. The weaker looking swings are from the shoulder.

I see.

I note that the guy using the long staff? He's not very good with it, I think. At least, in the videos shown; however, I will admit that there's a lot of emphasis on the sword moves than on the staff moves, at least in the video.

I don't claim _I'm_ much better, mind, but I train with some people who would eat him and the guy opposing him for breakfast. Without even breaking a sweat. ;-]

(although I would be interested in taking him on without armour... and the staff I train with is 33mm diameter, not the apparent 22mm they have there...)

* Kipiru gathers his blown away mind and takes a deep breath. Then he bows slightly in gratitude to the Fox*
I mean, really dude, that was an awsome comment! Thanks!

llearch: Technically, Staff fighting in the SCA isn't an allowed weapon form for safety reasons. You're not allowed to make a two handed swing over 180 degrees (SCA, the corperation, has to worry about getting sued and insurance. But to be fair, we get less injuries per year then *golf*). What the guy said about rattan isn't really true: They use rattan not because it'll break before your bones do, but because when it does break, it breaks in a way that doesn't send splinters and shards into the other guys eyes or tender bits. The 180 rule really inhibits a lot of things you *could* do with a staff, spear, halberd, two handed sword, etc, so I don't doubt that you could easily train someone to kick that guys ass, if he had to follow the rules and you didn't. One thing to remember about Combat in the SCA is that it's not actually combat, but it's not staged. It's more like a sport.

Kipiru: You're welcome, glad to help. I have to update my sig now.  :)

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 05:04:53 AM
I think Turnsky does the same thing, I got a lot of advice from him when I was developing my process for DSOF.

[Examines some full-res Turnsky art]

Well I'm buggered!  So he does.  Shadrok seems to fill each object as a blob of colour, with the actual lineart superimposed over it.  He also has one layer per object which can be a PITA - Project Future 33 had approx 77 layers before I rationalised it.  IIRC Keaton and Aisha seem to work in a similar way - though less extreme - so I kind of assumed that was the 'proper' way to do it.

The only multilayer I have from Amber - part of my commission - has the figure as a single layer, with the original lineart on a backup layer.  I was rather surprised at that, since I figured she'd use an additional layer for the shading.  I guess it might be a reduction mix, though.

QuoteI use Photoshop, and the nice thing about a straight up BW scan is that you can magic wand and fill huge areas of color very quickly, and if you want to shade you can magic-wand again to set up a mask.

Same here, only with Gimp.  First stage is to tidy up the lineart to ensure all the shapes are complete, after that it's flood-filling each sector and cleaning up.

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 08, 2008, 04:34:55 PM
llearch: Technically, Staff fighting in the SCA isn't an allowed weapon form for safety reasons. You're not allowed to make a two handed swing over 180 degrees (SCA, the corperation, has to worry about getting sued and insurance. But to be fair, we get less injuries per year then *golf*). What the guy said about rattan isn't really true: They use rattan not because it'll break before your bones do, but because when it does break, it breaks in a way that doesn't send splinters and shards into the other guys eyes or tender bits. The 180 rule really inhibits a lot of things you *could* do with a staff, spear, halberd, two handed sword, etc, so I don't doubt that you could easily train someone to kick that guys ass, if he had to follow the rules and you didn't. One thing to remember about Combat in the SCA is that it's not actually combat, but it's not staged. It's more like a sport.

Ah, that 180 degrees thing would restrict things quite a bit.

Be nice to take a team of Mau Taiaha folk across and show them how it's done in the real world, though. *grin* "Armour? We don't need no steenkin' armour..." ;-]

llearch and Fox- you guys train knight fighting?  :erk Awsome! Wish I could do the same!

Nyet. He does, I poke about with Mau Taiaha, which is a spear based martial form from New Zealand.

We've just been discussing the comparative disciplines...

Part of producing art is that you have to be efficient about your time. If you can get a 10% improvement by taking four times as long, it may not necessarily be worth it. Either don't take the extra time, or find a faster way to work. That's the real trick to developing techniques; to be fast and effective.That's a hard lesson I learned early on when I was first doing DSOF. Of course, if taking a little bit more time will improve the quality measurably, you gotta take the time to do it right.

Time over quality equals efficiency. Gotta keep all three balanced.

Quote from: Kipiru on October 08, 2008, 04:58:29 PM
llearch and Fox- you guys train knight fighting?  :erk Awsome! Wish I could do the same!

Well, strictly speaking, I practice medieval recreation (re-creation, not rec-re-ation) rapier combat. Typical Three-Musketeers sort of stuff. (If you've seen the modern Count of Monte Cristo movie, or the classic Princess Bride, you know what I'm talking about.) I have plenty of friends that do "Heavy" AKA "Full Armored" AKA "Rattan" combat. (Kingdom of Heaven and The Messenger are good examples of what Rattan combat is like.  It's pretty bloody and a real mind screw too. LotR is a close approximation too, but it's really Hollywood-ish.)

You know, all that about you guys doing weapon training has inspired me to make a picture portraying it, but I'm going to need some info for it. Like for example llearch can you give me an idea for the traditional attire you use for your training( with Fox it's kind of simple- knight armor) and maybe a you tube clip showing the typical moves. Plus I think of using llearch's ermine char for the pic, but I'm not sure for Fox- do you have a fursona you prefer being portrayed as or should I make one up using your avatar (the snow fox).

Heh. "Traditional attire" is, usually, tshirt and sweatpants. When training, at least. Demonstrations is different.

As for what would have been worn, there's a pic (http://www.srichinmoycentre.org/Members/barnaby_mcbryde/images/te_wero.jpg) or two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TaiahaPosition4.jpg) on wikipedia.

There's also a number of taiaha videos on youtube. I'm not sure many of them are much good, though - when we whawhai, we usually go _much_ faster than most of them are. But then, we're also adults, and most of them appear to be teenagers or young folks.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FfXlskpaFc0 - watch the guy on the right. It's more te wero than the whawhai, though - demonstrations used as a welcome challenge, usually by the best warrior in the tribe, rather than the training.

There was a video of some decent stuff, but it's not up on youtube. :-/

Edit: Hmm. this one (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ofybOAqLWZM) has a few of the moves towards the end of his "demonstration". Two knee slashes and a face strike. You can see why they're lethal. ;-]

I have to restate: I do not do full armored combat. I do rapier combat. Medieval fencing.

The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) has some good examples of what some of our moves look like, and there's a scene where the old man is teaching him about sword work being about speed. That's entirely true. Here's the final fight sequence. Once they get their swords back, they get to the sort of stuff we do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbkiAHaGJQo [edit] Whoop, wrong video.

And just about everyone who fences has half of the Princess Bride memorized. http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1741137zzN29A6s Another pretty good example of what I do. Maybe not as showey, but that sort of thing. Notice the foot work, especially near the end. The feet never cross, the forward foot stays forward. It's a good example of what our stance looks like. All of the attacks use the tip of the blade, even when slashing or cutting. The whole style is about keeping your distance, hence the importance of foot work. The parries they use are very large motions compared to what we use, but are pretty similar in style.

As for what I wear... I dug this out from a few weeks back.
(http://www.northernelectric.ca/~whitefox/images/sketches/outfit.jpg)
(I'm surprised the board didn't shrink that down)
The shirt is your typical poofey sleeved ren-faire shirt, in a bronze satin. You'd be surprised how hard it is to stab some ones arms when they're wearing one of these. The coat is a dark blue-gray, almost a canvas. The pic isn't quite accurate: it should go down just below my knees.The gloves are black leather. Not shown are the knee high leather boots.

Quote from: Fox NaBan on October 22, 2008, 07:03:24 PM
(I'm surprised the board didn't shrink that down)

Your browser will cache, and override, the board shrinking. Everyone else will see it shrunk. Just FYI.

Here is some old B&W concept art I did for a strategy computer game. The game unfortunately didn't reach completion.

watch tower (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6030/watchtowerfg4.jpg)

workshop (http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9130/workshopth7.jpg)

barracks (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/104/barracksrn4.jpg)

Here is a little somthing I did for Lysander, sort of my version of his fursona:

Lysander (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7878/lysanderavadc8.jpg)

Wow, man. You're awesome.  :hug  I like what you did with the dagger and the sweet gloves, I may have to use them when I draw him... Good work with the shading on his hair and coat too. Thanks beyond words.    :januscat

I'd always thought of Lysander as a canine - he looks a little feline in that.  Looks nice, though.  I love the sacrificial dagger thing.

Quote from: Tapewolf on November 04, 2008, 04:13:27 PM
I'd always thought of Lysander as a canine - he looks a little feline in that. 

  I though that there might be a problem there. As far as I know Lysander is canine indeed, but I still have problems with drawing animal faces, I tend to try and make them more human like and thus shortening them beyond species recognition!
But I'm glad Lysander likes it!

Here is a pic done by one of my best freinds, I only did the color. His specialty are dinosaurs and dragons, but as you can see he copes with the human body quite nicely!  :)

Female elf by JB (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9036/elfajbcoloredxx6.jpg) -NSFW

Nice colouring. I'd avoid commenting on the drawing itself, but I just can't help myself.

One, the left hip is a little too far out for the width of the waist. Secondly, anyone with that sized "tracts of land" is going to find they end up with a line down the right hand side of them (if right handed) from the bowstring, and hence will more than likely wear something to hold them back. From the way they're coloured, it looks more like a filmy harem-style see-through top than armour; the way the nipples are showing suggests that it's not exactly warm. Either that or she really likes what she sees...

All in my totally arrogant opinion, of course. ;-]

Edit:
On second glance, the feet are a touch small, as well. But again, that's the art, not the colouring. The colouring is quite well done - I particularly like the hair.

Well placed comment llearch, the picture is quite old so a lot of problems are present, mostly anatomical. As far as clothing goes, the picture was meant to be more erotic than accurate in terms of practical armor.
And yeah, the hair did come out great!  :)

NOTE: I forgot to mention that the color scheme was of the artist's own idea and I have no credit to take for it.

Quote from: Kipiru on December 06, 2008, 08:34:29 AM
As far as clothing goes, the picture was meant to be more erotic than accurate in terms of practical armor.

Two words: Boris Vallejo. I suppose you're friend's responsible for the outfit, tho.  :)

I just noticed the lines in your work look gray, and the darkness varies. Are these pencils colored digitally? I've found a drawing always looks better if it's inked.

Hahaha, Fox, you just pinned the tail on the donkey! My friend was indeed inspired by Vallejo's art and yes, the original of this drawing was done with a pencil and this is a scanned version of a copy of the penciled version, so the lines are a bit flawed.

Here is my view of Gabi's fursona!

Gabi (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8096/gabicolor1cv1.jpg)

Quote from: Kipiru on December 30, 2008, 03:13:50 PM
Here is my view of Gabi's fursona!

Very nice.  I do wonder if you went a little overboard trying to make her look seductive, though it may just be me.  It'll be interesting to see what she makes of it.
Anyway, I look forward to more of your work.

I wasn't really going for seductive, just fresh looking.

I think you made me look like a model. :mowwink

But your drawing skills are impressive. And, as I said on my PM, I like the clothes a lot. Especially the glitter. ^_^

I guess it must be the red lips that cause the seductive effect. I never draw lips on my fursona (nor would I make her that skinny), but it's a matter of style. I think it does look good.

Thank you! :hug

I'm glad you liked it! Sorry for the inaccuracy in terms of body, but i haven't really seen you!  This was more of a mental impression of your fursona, rather than anything!

Here is a picture of a naughty Santa outfit!

naugthy Santa outfit (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6941/svetlapodaruk1ku9.jpg) -NSFW

You might want to tag that NSFW (or "may not be SFW").

Quote from: Kipiru on December 31, 2008, 03:22:21 AM
I'm glad you liked it! Sorry for the inaccuracy in terms of body, but i haven't really seen you!  This was more of a mental impression of your fursona, rather than anything!

It's perfectly understandable. And judging by your last drawing I guess it's just the way you like to draw, which is ok to me.

Nice picture, by the way! The question is... will she be able to lift the bag? :mowgrin

JP: NSFW? She's not showing any 'naughty bits', nor even a part of her underwear.

Quote from: Gabi on December 31, 2008, 05:25:00 AM
JP: NSFW? She's not showing any 'naughty bits', nor even a part of her underwear.

Depends on your work, I guess.

Quote from: Gabi on December 31, 2008, 05:25:00 AM
JP: NSFW? She's not showing any 'naughty bits', nor even a part of her underwear.

I'd get in trouble for it.   :/

Stupid ultra-conservative scared of offending anyone (except for non-Christians) work place.  *wanders off muttering to himself*

Either nice work Kipiru.  While many may not see Gabi's character as a symbol of attraction it's still refreshing to see a picture that shows it as a possibility.  It's very much a testament to your ability to be able to both envision and bring that image to life.

In the case of the santa one, I have only one complaint (and it's less so a complaint but a curiosity I might add) and that is that the hip and stomach on what would be her left side seem to be a bit odd.  Maybe it's just the shadowing or my poor creative sense but it doesn't look quite right to me.  Other than that I really like it.  It's more 'cute' than 'seductive' (not that my office would care, but no one is in yet other than me) and I like that. :)

Quote from: Mao Laoren on December 31, 2008, 07:57:45 AM
In the case of the santa one, I have only one complaint (and it's less so a complaint but a curiosity I might add) and that is that the hip and stomach on what would be her left side seem to be a bit odd.  Maybe it's just the shadowing or my poor creative sense but it doesn't look quite right to me. 

Yeah, that shadow did come out somewhat wrong and screwed up the whole hip and waist, but at the time I kind of went with it, as this was one of my fast projects!

And here is personal favourite of mine, I've been making this pic for about 3 years now- a little bit at a time! It was actually the my first attempt at photoshop coloring. Now it's finished!

scorpicore demoness (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8712/demonessblackxm4.jpg)

Quote from: Kipiru on January 05, 2009, 04:09:51 PM
And here is personal favourite of mine, I've been making this pic for about 3 years now- a little bit at a time! It was actually the my first attempt at photoshop coloring. Now it's finished!

I'll let others judge the anatomy as it's not exactly my strong point.  By the looks of it she may have back problems it later life, though  >:3

As for the colouring, I'd be interested to know how you did the base colours.  I can see a few white bits in the lines, which suggests to me that you scanned the inks in greyscale and didn't redraw them digitally.

A quick-and-dirty technique to solve that - the one I use - is to scan the lineart in high-res and reduce the bit depth to straight black-and-white.
From there you can join up the lines into segments and flood-fill them to get the base colours down.  If there are still while bits afterwards, you can do a select-by-colour, exclude all the bits which you want to be white and flood-fill the rest of the selection black.

If you've still got it in a higher-resolution, multilayer form you might want to give that a go as the lines do look a little bit odd.  Another thing is the hair... to my mind, the soft-focus effect jars with the fact that her face is crisp-looking.

Anyway, the figure's decent, and I like the armour design, but there seem to be a few rough edges with the colouring.  Hope that's a useful critique.

Usefull- yes, expected- also. As I said this was a first time attempt at coloring and I picked the first picture that came to my mind- this one. It was never scanned, this is done over a photographed image and since it was a looooong work in progress some of the techniques vary as I learned new tricks along the way. Not nearly my best in terms of color, but holds a special place for me.  :mowhappy

And here are two new pics from the Unicorn:

Elf Druid (http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/347/elfdruid1lg3.jpg)

Druid magic (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3470/nakedcolor1gu9.jpg) -NSFW- NUDITY!!!

Here, for the first time I tried using painted lines (check the jewels and the strings on the hair).

The colouring of the magic one suggests that the nipples are on a different plane to the rest of her. Possibly something to do with the lines around the edge, or perhaps not.

I'll have a closer look (So to speak...) when I'm not at work. ;-]

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 07, 2009, 10:56:01 AM
The colouring of the magic one suggests that the nipples are on a different plane to the rest of her. Possibly something to do with the lines around the edge, or perhaps not.

That has to do with me experimenting with colored lines  :)

As I said - I'll perform a slightly less "scan and close" look, and critique, when I don't have people looking over my shoulder. ;-]

Quote from: Kipiru on January 05, 2009, 04:09:51 PM
And here is personal favourite of mine, I've been making this pic for about 3 years now- a little bit at a time! It was actually the my first attempt at photoshop coloring. Now it's finished!

scorpicore demoness (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8712/demonessblackxm4.jpg)

I love the detail in this one, but there's a couple of spots where the details get kinda messed up by what looks like a blur or smudge effect.  Mainly near anywhere you're trying to create a shine effect it seems.

Quote from: Kipiru on January 07, 2009, 10:48:26 AM
And here are two new pics from the Unicorn:

Elf Druid (http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/347/elfdruid1lg3.jpg)

Druid magic (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3470/nakedcolor1gu9.jpg) -NSFW- NUDITY!!!

Here, for the first time I tried using painted lines (check the jewels and the strings on the hair).

While I couldn't look at the second one for obvious reasons (curse you stupid office, cuuuuurse yoooouuu!)  I thought the first one was very nice.  What really stood out was the way the shadows were done.  To me they seem better on this one than some of your previous showings.

Yeah, the whole technique on the Scorpicore Demoness is messed up, but I didn't have the nerve to start it all over to fix things, so the end result is very flawed!
As for the shadowing of the Elf Druid- as much as I would like to take credit for a great advancement in the shadowing department- it was just a simple picture with easy shadowing!

Oooh, pretty!

The wolf looks cute, though it seems like it doesn't want to be there. The elf druid looks great.

The second elf looks rather... gifted for her body build.

Nice leaves!

In my experience, shading is never easy.

Ah, I see what the issue is (now that I'm not at work and can gaze for a few minutes without looking like a perv...)

You've coloured almost all the lines in black, other than the coloured nipples and the area between the breasts. A little more on the hands, and the face, but mostly that's about it. Which is why those look like they've been smudged in, and don't match the rest of the pic.

Other than that, it's nicely done. The curves for the line from hip to shoulder could do with a bit of work, as they're not quite even, nor are they uneven in the right way - there are muscle definitions, and bones (the ribcage) and the lines don't appear to take that into account.


You've got a heck of a talent, though. Feel free to grumble at the critique. ;-]

Grumble? Getting critique is one of the reasons I post my stuff here! I enjoy the praise, but I get enough of that from my friends here. What I need is an objective point of view that can show me my mistakes. I've learned a lot from you guys commenting on my art, so keep it up.
So, for the shade lines not being even is true, but I am doing all my coloring with a mouse, so I really think that problem should go away once I get myself a tablet. Till then I'm struggling with my hand shaking the mouse out of a straight line and making finer details impossible to do, so that's a huge hold back for me.

Druid: Can you believe the first thing I thought was "Wait, Night Elves can be druids, but not Blood elves..."

I've been playing way too much World of Warcraft.

Anyway... On the druid magic pic: I don't know if it's a matter of style or not, but the neck is very, very long. It looks like you've got a full head height between the chin and the collarbone, and another head height from the collar bone to the sternum. That extra height between the collar bone and the sternum is probably making the arms look really long too, since the arms are as long as the torso overall. The legs might look long for the same reason: the distance between the top of the head and the groin is the same as the distance from the groin to the feet.

(The entire torso can be measured in head heights: the top of head, chin, sternum, belly button, and groin are all a head height apart. The wrist is level with the groin and the elbow is half way between the wrist and shoulder. Placing the feet is a matter of measuring the whole height of the body and doubling it. You probably knew most of that already though.)

Actually, since I brought up the collarbones, they should twist up a bit to rest on top of the shoulders rather then in the middle/front of them.

The forearm muscles look a little off, since they bulge near the elbow. There is a little bulge, but it's not usually that noticeable in the outline.  The wrist is usually half as thick as the widest point of the forearm, when in profile.

The hands would look more dynamic if the fingers were splayed rather then mitten-posed.

The nipples on a person usually face forward and centered in the middle of the breast, for the most part. Hers look spread really wide, which makes it look like her nips are off center or her boobs are flying sideways. The shape of the breasts themselves isn't bad, tho.

The leaves all seem to face the camera. Once I noticed this, the leaves started looking really flat overall.

Now that that's all out of the way, I like the shading and her face has a lot of expression to it. The body language is pretty dynamic, without resorting to an extreme pose. The shading looks pretty good, to me, though it could be a little bolder in places. And I love the ears... I can never do good elf ears. Or pubic hair. Yeah... So. Anyway.

Not sure what to say about the not-nude elf druid pic, most of what I said above about the anatomy still applies. I think her tiara, clasp, and the cords in her hair should be lined in black. I love the wolf, he's great. The fluff coming down from his cheeks doesn't look very wolfy, but that might just be me. Great expression, envy the ears, and the highlights for the coat rumples aren't bad.

Oh, and I notice these don't have that gray-line effect the previous pics have. Way to go.  :)

Quote from: Kipiru on January 07, 2009, 05:40:56 PM
Grumble? Getting critique is one of the reasons I post my stuff here! I enjoy the praise, but I get enough of that from my friends here. What I need is an objective point of view that can show me my mistakes. I've learned a lot from you guys commenting on my art, so keep it up.

Glad to oblige. Let me know if I'm getting too critical.

I've found that when you show your friends your stuff, you get some praise or some surprise. Showing stuff to other artists is the best way to get something constructive back, and those kinds of comments are invaluable.

No, Fox, you are not getting too critical, I enjoy your comments. Plus I've been hearing this a lot lately- I need to work on my anatomy, excluding ears and pubic hair apparently :) Btw doing pubic hair isn't at all that difficult, as long as you can wrap your mind around the idea that it's just hair.

Some fresh stuff:

Green haired blade girl (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3470/mangohairhj1.jpg) - could be considered NSFW...I think

Curse you and your color and shading... curse you... xD

Looks pretty sweet man, I couldn't look for long for obvious reasons, but it looks like you've really improved on the color and on the faces.  Previously I found them kinda flat and almost shiny looking with the way you did your shading (though you did clarify that those ones were older) but now this looks a lot better.  Kudos.  :3

The shading is nice, yes.  The leg structure is good, though perhaps they're a little spindly for that much weight.

And here is my own version of catwoman  :mowhappy

catwoman (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5586/bdsmkitty1tl8.jpg) -a bit NSFW

This one has been in the works for some time and I finally finished it while experimenting with Burn and Dodge.

Meow. Nuff said.

Makes me think of a white Eartha Kitt...and with a way more revealing cat suit.

All the heavy dark coloring make it a little hard to read, since all the black-on-black-on-black make the contours imperceptible. Especially where the arm overlaps the hair and the torso; I have to look long and hard to sort out what kind of pose her arm and hand is in. I suppose that's the nature of the beast, considering she's wearing a lot of black.

The belts on the thighs don't seem well placed. Moving them down, to just above the knee, would take them off the center of the muscle mass. As they are, they'd constrict the muscles on the thigh.

The anatomy/proportions looks pretty good, and the pose look dynamic, if a bit extreme (But hey, what's not to love about extreme?) The hands are well done. Even though they have little definition (Again, because of the black-on-black), they still look like hands.

Two things that stand out, and this might be considered a matter of style, are the eyes and hair. I know I've commented on this before, but that style of eyes is very generic and uncomplicated. The hair terminates in a flat edge, and has highlighting that make the ends look like they were dipped in latex. Which, actually, might fit the outfit, but doesn't look all that fibrous.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 22, 2009, 06:25:43 AM
Meow.

I'll second that. Meyow.

Nice work. I think yoou've done a better job with the proportions on this one.

And here is the commission for Tapewolf- my version of Jakob

Jakob Pettersohn (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/708/jctrue1bs3.jpg)

Quote from: Kipiru on January 25, 2009, 01:03:30 PM
And here is the commission for Tapewolf- my version of Jakob

Just to clarify, it was a request rather than a for-money commission.

He has turned out a little more evil than I was expecting, but other than that it's a good likeness and I'm very happy with it.

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 25, 2009, 01:48:30 PM

Quote from: Kipiru on January 25, 2009, 01:03:30 PM
And here is the commission for Tapewolf- my version of Jakob

Just to clarify, it was a request rather than a for-money commission.

He has turned out a little more evil than I was expecting, but other than that it's a good likeness and I'm very happy with it.

Hmm, I was going for a playfull grin, but I'm still glad you liked it. And, yes, thanks for correcting me- it was a request, not a payed commission. I still don't do this for the money  :mowwink

nice, good job.

Good job indeed. And doesn't Jakob enjoy scaring others anyway?

Well, Cross certainly liked scaring people. I miss Cross.
Nice drawin', I liked it.   Sorry, I'm not much of an art critic.

Quote from: Pagan on January 25, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
Well, Cross certainly liked scaring people. I miss Cross.

He was certainly fun to write.  That's one of the reasons for Jakob's occasional regressions.

The shading looks a little unreal to me, but that might come down to style. I love the trench-coat.

...

I'd comment more, but the look he has is giving me the heebie-jeebies.

(OT: Why the heck doesn't my auto-spellchecker recognize heebie-jeebie?)

Love the wings very much. Nice work on the coat too. I'd type this is one of your best pieces of work yet.    :januscat

And here is another one for the album:

Keaton the Black Jackal (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3498/keatshot1np2.jpg)

What are we seeing on her left hand?  Is that a gauntlet, or gore?

Overall it's a very good job - not someone I'd like to meet in a dark alley.  Or a well-lit one, either...

Wow. Great picture. :] Now I want to draw more pictures of Keaton. :3

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
What are we seeing on her left hand?  Is that a gauntlet, or gore?

That's clearly some sort of a gauntlet.

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on January 26, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
Now I want to draw more pictures of Keaton. :3

Just you wait...  :mwaha

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
What are we seeing on her left hand?  Is that a gauntlet, or gore?

A red gauntlet- took the idea from Amber's version of Keaton, but I wanted it to be different.

OMIGOD KIPIRU. This is AMAZING. I absolutely love my picture of Keaton, it's so fantastic and she looks so beautiful and elegant. You drew her so well! ;-; God, I love her outfit, too, and the coloring, and the pose, and the claw-gauntlet...

THERE IS SO MUCH TO LOVE ABOUT THIS PICTURE. :tighthug Thank youuuuu!

Goodness, your art in general is good. I need to come by this topic more often.  :boogie

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on January 26, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
Wow. Great picture. :] Now I want to draw more pictures of Keaton. :3

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
What are we seeing on her left hand?  Is that a gauntlet, or gore?

That's clearly some sort of a gauntlet.

Indeed, and Keaton only uses it when she feels like being a diabolical supervillain. Damn that Gadget... [/childhood cartoon reference]

:3

For the Jakob picture, there's only one thing bothering me, and it's the distance from the chest muscles and the neck.  Maybe I'm just not looking at it right, but it seems like there's a huge gap there.  Otherwise I love it. 

For the Keaton picture I also have but one reservation about it.  ONE.  It's where the wings attach to the back.  It seems off.  They aren't even (or maybe symmetrical is the word I'm looking for)  and it almost look like her left one is missing a chunk, though that my be accounted for by a section between the bone 'fingers' within a wing.



Alright... now that my 'critique' is out of the way.

PRAISE!

You've got a real talent Kipiru and it's a treat to see you work.  You're constantly showing new improvements.  The most noticable to me is in the area of coloring and shading (though some of that can be accounted for because the earlier shots we saw were noted as being old), but it should also be noted that your anatomy has made improvements too.   I wish I had your ability to color. :P  It makes me want to go back to my avatar and attempt some better coloring.

Very nice indeed. I like the pose, and it looks like you got the patterns dead on.

Very nice work. I like the detail with the markings very much.   :januscat

Oooh spiffy job there

Those are both awesome. I love the poses! :mowcookie

hmm... JP looks pretty slick, Keaton's one of the wings appears to be stretched part way up her neck, still nice positioning  of character.

wow nice

Here goes Mao:

Mao Laoren (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6466/maobattleoz2.jpg)

Woo, neat. I like how he's got his ears tied back to keep them from flopping around. That's a nice detail. One minor quibble: his pinky finger looks a bit off for some reason. Aside from that, it looks great.

Hey, how do I get one of those? ;)

That's got to hurt with the ears.  Otherwise, looks neat.

That's a really cool pose!

<3 <3  <3

Much love for this picture man.  I think you've done an excellent job with it. :D  Mao very rarely has his eyes open, but it looks like you've come up with a scenario where he would:  During a wicked awesome battle scene.

Looking at him from this angle kinda makes him look like Remy LeBeau (Gambit) from X-Men, which rocks as Gambit was one of the few characters I actually enjoyed from X-men (the others being Colossus and Nightcrawler).   I really appreciate you doing this.  :D

It was my pleasure Mao. Your character was actually very fun to draw.

Wow. Awesome picture. Gotta love action poses. :]

I wonder how do I get one? :3

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 18, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder how do I get one? :3

Quote from: Jairus on February 18, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
Hey, how do I get one of those? ;)

By asking :) I'm willing to make one pic for anyone who asks, but keep in mind that I kind of work slowly sometimes and may take a while to finish some pics. All I require is patience!  :mowsmile

Quote from: Kipiru on February 18, 2009, 03:00:42 PM

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 18, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder how do I get one? :3

Quote from: Jairus on February 18, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
Hey, how do I get one of those? ;)

By asking :) I'm willing to make one pic for anyone who asks, but keep in mind that I kind of work slowly sometimes and may take a while to finish some pics. All I require is patience!  :mowsmile

Heh, thanks. :3 We won't hurry you. :]

Quote from: Kipiru on February 18, 2009, 03:00:42 PM

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 18, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder how do I get one? :3

Quote from: Jairus on February 18, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
Hey, how do I get one of those? ;)

By asking :) I'm willing to make one pic for anyone who asks, but keep in mind that I kind of work slowly sometimes and may take a while to finish some pics. All I require is patience!  :mowsmile

Must...resist..temptation to...ask... :U

But, no, seriously...I'm probably still too new here to ask anything of anyone.  Although I do like your art style, I have to give you props for that.  You have quite a talent for wings and action poses. 

Quote from: Dekari on February 18, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
Must...resist..temptation to...ask... :U

But, no, seriously...I'm probably still too new here to ask anything of anyone.  Although I do like your art style, I have to give you props for that.  You have quite a talent for wings and action poses. 

I don't really discriminate over post count, but stick around a bit more and you may get your wish :)

Mao looks like a cross between a Gerbil and a Rabbit anthro ... Mao = cat .... wow, I'm so confuzled.

Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on February 18, 2009, 05:00:10 PM
Mao looks like a cross between a Gerbil and a Rabbit anthro ... Mao = cat .... wow, I'm so confuzled.

Mao is a  Nictarl (Hare/Feline hybrid)

Very awesome piece of artwork once again, Kipiru, I look forward to seeing more ^^

Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on February 18, 2009, 05:00:10 PM
Mao looks like a cross between a Gerbil and a Rabbit anthro ... Mao = cat .... wow, I'm so confuzled.

Part feline, part rabbit, all dirty hobo.  Oh, and a bit of a monk... but eh.. lets face it.  It's the hobo part that counts.

Quote from: Kipiru on February 18, 2009, 04:42:51 PM

Quote from: Dekari on February 18, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
Must...resist..temptation to...ask... :U

But, no, seriously...I'm probably still too new here to ask anything of anyone.  Although I do like your art style, I have to give you props for that.  You have quite a talent for wings and action poses. 

I don't really discriminate over post count, but stick around a bit more and you may get your wish :)

You did not just say that.  Now I'm going to be spending the next week working on a charactor detail.....oh, no wait, I've already spend the past three and half to four months makeing 15  :erk

I may not be able to darw, but I do have a creative mind that won't shut up  :U

Truly, this is great work. Awesome battle pose, great anatomy especially with his hands. Interesting idea with his ears.   :januscat

Here is what I drew for 2008 Secret Santa:

naughty boys and girls (http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5181/secretsantagiftart1ru7.jpg)

It was for someone called Wela Inomae! I hope it was liked.

Here is something I whipped up in like 15 min. It's an attempt at a tribal style dragon. I think it came out neat.

Tribal Dragon (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2794/tribaldragon1.jpg)

Ooo. Nicely done, Kip.

It looks positively awesome. Good work, Kip. :]

I love that style of art. Such a great use of negative space. :mowcookie

Looks like one of those scenes where there's an atomic bomb, or something, and every thing's bleached out in light.

Very cool.

Here is one I've had in the works for quite some time- it is a request from a girlfriend of mine who wanted me to draw her like a fairy.

A Flower Fairy (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6651/feqtamalvina.jpg) -NSFW

Nice! I think the face looks a bit weird, but the skin, leaves and flowers look great.

Another delayed request for a friend of mine's girlfriend:

Keeper of the Arcane (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8886/renimagesnica.jpg)

Quote from: Kipiru on March 05, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
Another delayed request for a friend of mine's girlfriend:

Keeper of the Arcane (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8886/renimagesnica.jpg)

That's nice.  I like that.  Especially the floaty tiara thing on her head.  Out of interest, have you considered posting your art to DeviantArt or Furaffinity or something?

Actually I have a DA account (http://kipiru.deviantart.com/), but I haven't had time to update it properly.

This pic is awesome. The dress has a nice fabric feel to it, and is well detailed without being visually distracting. The pose looks fluid and natural, too. I love the floating head ornaments.

One or two nitpicks about the anatomy, though. The neck and shoulder line looks pretty unnatural, and the hands look about half as big as they should be.

Otherwise, it's just stellar work. Very nice.

Nice work indeed. As for DA, I wouldn't recommend uploading there. That means giving them absolute freedom to do whatever you want with your work (you have to agree to that before you upload anything).

And here is the first of what I plan on being a series of funny pics featuring Kipiru and Beever having a wacky fun time:

Kipiru and Beever at the beach (http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4699/kipiruandbeevervacation.jpg)

I just realized that this is the first time I've drawn Kipiru in his furry reincarnation! Same goes for Beever's lizardy self.

Mmm. Beefcakey.

Nice expressions and body language, too.

Comics typically use a sans-serif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif) font for dialog. It's more readable.

Blambot (http://www.blambot.com/fonts.shtml) has a pile of free fonts for comics.

Heh, interesting picture, and interesting take on Aisha and Gab.

Though, that's not how she'd react at all to that kind of thing.  She is taken you know. :rolleyes

Sorry, had a bad day yesterday and feeling rather picky, but it's also true.   :B

Quote from: Aisha deCabre on March 24, 2009, 04:10:58 PM
Though, that's not how she'd react at all to that kind of thing.  She is taken you know. :rolleyes

Sorry, had a bad day yesterday and feeling rather picky, but it's also true.   :B

i meant nothing by placing Gabi and you in this picture, just liked the idea of a cameo :)

Except, you know, she and Gabi are kinda looking on seemingly attracted by...well, you know...Beever's wotsit. :B

Other than that, nice pic.

Quote from: Gareeku on March 24, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Except, you know, she and Gabi are kinda looking on seemingly attracted by...well, you know...Beever's wotsit. :B

Other than that, nice pic.

Thanks Gar, and sorry if this brings on any inconvenience- I truthfully meant their looks to be out of pure curiosity and not lust. The whole pic is meant as a joke and the roles of the passing girls could of been taken by two unknown characters, but as I said I decided to humor the idea of a cameo from two recognizable participants in the forum. Again, sorry if this causes discomfort- I didn't mean it to be so.

Quote from: Gareeku on March 24, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Except, you know, she and Gabi are kinda looking on seemingly attracted by...well, you know...Beever's wotsit. :B

Other than that, nice pic.

Well, that's all based on how you view the picture.  Just to play devil's advocate (and oh so like to play that part  :mwaha), that could be the look that comes two seconds before busting out in uncontrollable laughter.  :P



As for the picture itself, great work as always.  It looks like your refining your skill a lot work to work.  However, and this is personal opinion, the Goku/Super Saiyan hair is a little overused.  But again, that's just me.

Quote from: Dekari on March 24, 2009, 09:26:15 PM

As for the picture itself, great work as always.  It looks like your refining your skill a lot work to work.  However, and this is personal opinion, the Goku/Super Saiyan hair is a little overused.  But again, that's just me.

I assume you're talking about Kipiru's mane. I can see your point, but I was trying to do something similar to the mane in my avatar- creamy white and wild like fire.  :)

Quote from: Dekari on March 24, 2009, 09:26:15 PM

Quote from: Gareeku on March 24, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Except, you know, she and Gabi are kinda looking on seemingly attracted by...well, you know...Beever's wotsit. :B

Other than that, nice pic.

Well, that's all based on how you view the picture.  Just to play devil's advocate (and oh so like to play that part  :mwaha), that could be the look that comes two seconds before busting out in uncontrollable laughter.  :P

It could be, but it isn't :P

Quote from: Kipiru on March 25, 2009, 02:24:12 AM

Quote from: Dekari on March 24, 2009, 09:26:15 PM

As for the picture itself, great work as always.  It looks like your refining your skill a lot work to work.  However, and this is personal opinion, the Goku/Super Saiyan hair is a little overused.  But again, that's just me.

I assume you're talking about Kipiru's mane. I can see your point, but I was trying to do something similar to the mane in my avatar- creamy white and wild like fire.  :)

Oh, I guess I'm just used to seeing it done everywhere that when I see blond and spikey that's the first thing that comes to mind.

OK, something went horribly wrong here! This is a formal apology to Aisha deCabre and Gareeku and to Gabi if she feels in anyway insulted as well. In my opinion, the worst fate that can befall an artist is his creation to bring unpleasant feelings to someone and this is apparently what happened here. I'm sorry guys and girls, I didn't mean to! From this moment on the two females in the pitcure are to NOT be recognized as Gabi and Aisha, but as random characters. I hope there will be no hard feelings as a result of this.

Quote from: Kipiru on March 23, 2009, 07:27:07 PM
And here is the first of what I plan on being a series of funny pics featuring Kipiru and Beever having a wacky fun time:

Kipiru and Beever at the beach (http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4699/kipiruandbeevervacation.jpg)

I just realized that this is the first time I've drawn Kipiru in his furry reincarnation! Same goes for Beever's lizardy self.

That's Great Situation Kip, There is so much in it.And buddy, you know, I just love to bask under the sun.This body of mine just craves for constant sunshine. :mowwink :love3

Well Aisha isn't my character, so I probaby shouldn't be sticking my nose in. It's up to what Aish wants.

Not to stick my nose in or make any assumptions, but if you want to draw someone else's chars, it's generally better to ask and give them a run down of what you have in mind.  Particularly if you're putting their character in any sort of scenario/story.  Not doing so is kinda like meta-gaming to me.  You're taking control of someone else's character and making it do things they may or may not do or may not be comfortable with.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on March 26, 2009, 01:48:47 PM
Not to stick my nose in or make any assumptions, but if you want to draw someone else's chars, it's generally better to ask and give them a run down of what you have in mind.  Particularly if you're putting their character in any sort of scenario/story.  Not doing so is kinda like meta-gaming to me.  You're taking control of someone else's character and making it do things they may or may not do or may not be comfortable with.

Yes, Mao. I think I got that the hard way, hence the apology above.

Here is my present to Ren from the Covert Courtesy Commutation:

Ren Gaulen (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2294/rengaulenv.jpg)

I was aiming for his awakened form but it only came out half right- I forgot about his third eye opening.

I looked it over and over again and I could tell it really is a splendid piece of work buddy!The gun is awesome and the sword as well.You played skilfully with the position of the character and succeeded in depicting the motion.This is truly one of your best pictures.I can't remember whether you mentioned about some problems with the fingers,let alone in the past, it is clear now that it ain't a problem anymore. :) :) :mowsmile

Very awesome looking indeed, Kip. And offhand, maybe he hasn't opened his third eye yet... afraid of getting it poked or something like that.

Sorry, I've only just noticed this. The picture was funny, and very well drawn. As for the ladies... when I saw them my first thought was "wow, that fox looks like she's my relative". Then I read this thread and realized it was meant to be me... then at the end it turns out that maybe she wasn't... I guess we could settle it by saying she's my cousin.

I think I already said it in the CCC thread, but I'll say it again. Great picture, Kip. Absolutely great. :] And you actually got the Awakened form right - Ren gets the third eye when he is threansformed into a Hell Knight, which is a Daemon form (and he rarely uses that form deliberately). In the Awakened form he is not supposed to have a third eye.

Quote from: Gabi on March 29, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
Sorry, I've only just noticed this. The picture was funny, and very well drawn. As for the ladies... when I saw them my first thought was "wow, that fox looks like she's my relative". Then I read this thread and realized it was meant to be me... then at the end it turns out that maybe she wasn't... I guess we could settle it by saying she's my cousin.

There was a bit of a mishap with the whole cameo thing, but I'm glad you like the pic :) And yeah, sure- cousin works fine  :mowwink

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on March 29, 2009, 09:09:41 AM
I think I already said it in the CCC thread, but I'll say it again. Great picture, Kip. Absolutely great. :] And you actually got the Awakened form right - Ren gets the third eye when he is threansformed into a Hell Knight, which is a Daemon form (and he rarely uses that form deliberately). In the Awakened form he is not supposed to have a third eye.

Cool, that means I didn't screw it up- thanks for clarifying that Ren. That was one particularly tough pic to draw- in all aspects. But since the char was cool to begin with, it turned out nice.

And here is a Tiger Ninja I did for a friend of mine.

Hasstorr- The White Ninja Tiger (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1568/hasstiger.jpg)

Sweet.  I like the pose.

There are a couple of little things I notice, though - the tail is rather too thin for starters.  Also the head could do with a little work to make him a bit more tiger-like (unless he's a hybrid or something).  Specifically, the ruff makes him look kind of lynx-like, and the ears are a bit too pointed IMHO.

I don't know, the sword in his left and seems kind of small. Based on the other sword I would think that it would go past his right knee.

Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 07, 2009, 01:16:29 AM
I don't know, the sword in his left and seems kind of small. Based on the other sword I would think that it would go past his right knee.

That would be because the two swords are not the same- he is holding a katana and a kodachi.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 06, 2009, 06:27:21 PM
Sweet.  I like the pose.

There are a couple of little things I notice, though - the tail is rather too thin for starters.  Also the head could do with a little work to make him a bit more tiger-like (unless he's a hybrid or something).  Specifically, the ruff makes him look kind of lynx-like, and the ears are a bit too pointed IMHO.

Yep, I still have a lot to go before I learn how to make animal faces actually resemble the animal they are supposed to be.

But Of Course you do have to , but this one especially looks in great shape too, well-trained,  agile and dangerous!
Like the claws, very well done :)

This is the portrait I did of Corgatha's gloomy character(he's serious, so watch it :)) It turned out really nice, but I like all my art, so now it's your turn to give an opinion:

Corgatha Taldothar (http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5580/corgathataldothar.jpg)

Well, actually he does not look so stern, but the way he handles those rocks or whatever pieces there,think this might be interpret as some kind of a sign. Cool posture, splendid sword and great body. I like it!  :mowsmile :)

Once again, great picture, Kip. However, I have a question. How does he get that sword out of the scabbard? >:3

For the most part, he doesn't. Corg far more often fights with his magic than with his weapons. The blade is mostly for show.


Also, he's telekinetic.

Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 09, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Also, he's telekinetic.

THEN IT ALL MAKES SENSE. :eek *uses telekinesis to swing a giant sword around*

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 09, 2009, 07:46:05 PM
Once again, great picture, Kip. However, I have a question. How does he get that sword out of the scabbard? >:3

At some point, of drawing guys with large two-handed swords on their backs, I started asking myself that very same question Ren. I've come up with several scabbard designs that would make it possible and was even going to use one of them in this pic, but it slipped my mind and then it was too late. Thankfully Corgatha provided a good explanation to cover for my mistake  :)

Great work, Kipiru. His outfit is very nice, shading black can prove difficult at times. People can seldom make strait lines appear strait which you did well with his sword.   :januscat

And here is my present to Zedd, a rather voluptuous character of his creation:

Ecclesia- the elf demoness (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7654/darkgreendemoness.jpg)-NSFW

She has quite the backstory, but that is something for Zedd to reveal :)

I would like Zedd to reveal how she manages to stand up straight.......

Spinal reinforcement.  Just ask Fa'lina.

Careful guys..She can hear you

Yes, but can she run quickly?

Who needs running while teleporting is the key of living

And here is what I did as characters for the 1000 project pic:

Matilda (http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1377/matildaflatcolor.jpg)
Lorenda (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6127/lorendaflatcolor.jpg)
Fa'lina (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4596/falinaflatcolor.jpg)
Alexi (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1804/alexiflat.jpg) - this didn't make it to the 1000 pic, but still, here it is
Devin (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2397/devinflat.jpg)
Regina (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/743/reginaflat.jpg)
Aaryanna (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3656/aariannaflat.jpg)
Regina, Devin and Aary interaction (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/96/chaseinthesand.jpg)

I may try and do the rest of the characters of the comic in the same flat color fashion, just to complete the set :)

Looks good, though I remember as Matilda not having thumbs, it's in her profile I think.  :3

QuoteWhile she doesn't have thumbs on any of her 6 limbs, Matilda's tail can be used as an extra limb. She also has no nose and thus uses her tongue to smell.

Nice shot of Alexsi. And wow... you've done a lot of work!

Quote from: Tytaj on May 14, 2009, 12:01:01 PM
Looks good, though I remember as Matilda not having thumbs, it's in her profile I think.  :3

QuoteWhile she doesn't have thumbs on any of her 6 limbs, Matilda's tail can be used as an extra limb. She also has no nose and thus uses her tongue to smell.

Dang, you're right! Oh well, I'll keep it in mind for next time.

Quote from: Gabi on May 14, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
Nice shot of Alexsi. And wow... you've done a lot of work!

The whole flat color idea made it really easy, cause it's usually the shading that stacks time in the completion of a picture. Otherwise the pencil and ink on any of those was no more than 15 min each.

...It still took me 2 days to color mine. And about 3 weeks to draw it (it was hard to get it right). I guess some people are just faster than others.

Flat color or not, being able to make any of those in 15 min is pretty amazing.   :januscat

Quote from: Lysander on May 14, 2009, 02:14:16 PM
Flat color or not, being able to make any of those in 15 min is pretty amazing.   :januscat

Yeah.  I'm amazed at how quickly he is able to turn out the "Simeon's Story" strips.

Well, I'm flattered, but this is not a race after all- every artist has his own pace at doing things. I work fast when the muse hits me, but without inspiration i could drag a project out for weeks or even months. That's why I'm always hesitant to give ETAs on my art. Though with Tape's projects it's a must.
For instance- the  scorpicore demoness (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8712/demonessblackxm4.jpg) took me over 3 years to complete, because I always went changing stuff.

Here is one I did for a friend of mine( she didn't quite like it -something about not being able to relate to the confidence of the character  :rolleyes) - the idea was to mix the Valkyrie and her horse into one, but just to be on the cute side( and because my friend is a bit short) I made it a pony, rather than a horse. I like how it turned out:

Pony Valkyrie (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5318/vikingponycolor.jpg) - possibly NSFW

And presenting:

Wuffnpuff's character Chance (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9139/wuffyschance.jpg) - NSFW

I know Chance is supposed to be a Cubi, but I thought she would look better without the headwings.

Nice job on both characters.

With the succubus her wings are perhaps a little oversized - they'd be awesome for gliding, but she'd have to hide them if she wants to stand up.

You might want to look at Dan in 1001 for example - the tops of his wings are level with his head.

Quote from: Tapewolf on May 22, 2009, 04:30:37 PM
Nice job on both characters.

With the succubus her wings are perhaps a little oversized - they'd be awesome for gliding, but she'd have to hide them if she wants to stand up.

You might want to look at Dan in 1001 for example - the tops of his wings are level with his head.

Thanks Tape, as for the wing size- I am doing them large on purpose. The wings I like drawing should make the character look both impressive and flightworthy- as for them being too long, you can always write it off as magic being used to shrink or hide them when on the ground.

KIPIRU!!!  :tighthug You are awesome! Thanks so much again! I love it!!   :boogie

I love the wings, especially on Chance. I was thinking about how wings that size are probably much better for flying than the wings that are usually drawn with anthropomorphic characters. If a human was actually going to have wings they'd need to be a ridiculous size. Also good work on those spots, probably took a while. The only thing I'd say against the picture of Chance is there's no real depth. A suggestion that may help for flat color or unshaded pictures would be to increase the size of the outline gradually for the parts of the picture that would appear closer to the viewer.   :januscat

Splendid Work , they are both magnificent buddy.Maybe I shall call you now the Wing Master.These are  much much better and advanced wings  in contrast to   those I put on Dan.

Quote from: Kipiru on May 22, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
I know Chance is supposed to be a Cubi, but I thought she would look better without the headwings.

Headwings may well be hidden. It's the easy excuse, and, after all, Cubi _are_ shapeshifters...

wow you're been very busy Kipu. i should check out the art thread more often. keep up the great work

Holy smoking barrels Kipiru! I go and ask Wuffnpuff where she got that awesome looking avatar of hers, and she points me to one very productive and talented artist! I've been flipping through your collection of pieces, and I love your style, so I'd like to ask if you've got the time to perhaps put my character to paper as well? ^_^

Yesterday I ran into a buried treasure folks, something I thought was long lost art. A friend of mine dug up a couple of pictures I had done about 7 years ago, that I considered the best work I had ever done(to some extent I still think it true). They were sketches of the characters we were going to use in a fan-made vampire movie. I drew the outlines and a friend of mine did the shading with his thumbs. So here they are- unveiled after 7 years of gathering dust:

Hastor (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6718/hastor.jpg)- the main hero of the story- a good vampire with a hidden past.
Davius (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3127/davius.jpg)- the villain- also a vampire and Hastor's brother.
Spaiterus (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6687/spaiterus.jpg)- the right hand of Davius- a vampire-to-be, this schemer has his own hidden agenda.
Hesian (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8594/hesian.jpg)- a local youth that joins Hastor- brother of the girl that stands between Hastor and Davius.

NOTE: These are all at least A3 large, hence the crude photo shots(I just can't scan something that big) and the coloring of the paper(the old yellowish dusty look) is 100% authentic- that is how we found them.  :mowmeep

I don't think I've seen shaded pencilwork from you before.  I think you have every right to be pleased with it.

Glad you liked them, but the shading was done by a friend of mine. Fun fact: the guy who did the shading, was also the one to be the main character Hastor. Anyone who's gone over my art should have also seen him drawn as  our resident lightning mage (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3803/hastornamedbl5.jpg) and Hasstorr- The White Ninja Tiger (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1568/hasstiger.jpg)  :mowsmile

Why are they all named Hastorr? What am I missing?
Anyway, great drawings. The tiger's right forearm looks a bit weird, but the image as a whole looks really cool.

Quote from: Gabi on June 02, 2009, 12:35:18 PM
Why are they all named Hastorr? What am I missing?

Because it's the same person- in different characters.

Do you mean different characters from the same author? Or something else?

I guess this needs more explaining. You see I have 3 friends which are very close to me(Beever being one of them by the way). Together we used to play RP games and we all had our characters- mine was Kipiru, Beever's is Guaslagan. Hastor was one of those characters- belonged to one of those friends of mine. Since we turned out to all be artistically inclined- those characters began to appear in different forms- variations of the original RP characters.

Very nice

indeed very interesting to see the changes. did you all do different world rp's

Sort of. We actually only played this one world, but since everyone knew the others' characters by heart, we went on and placed versions of these charcters in all sorts of different settings. From classic fantasy to all sorts of sci-fi!

classic elseworlds rps' i love them. it's part  of why i still read some DC comics. different perspective on the same character's superman last son of earth was a good one

Presenting my gift for Cogidubnus from the CCC- open for comments:

Cogidubnus (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1713/cogidubnusslash.jpg)

Quote from: Kipiru on June 10, 2009, 07:39:23 AM
Presenting my gift for Cogidubnus from the CCC- open for comments:

Cogidubnus (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1713/cogidubnusslash.jpg)

I think it turned out very well.  Good likeness, good pose.

You've done it again! I don't know how you do it.. but you really make people's characters look so darn cool! You're awesome!  :boogie  (I really love the shoes too for some reason..  :giggle )

Quote from: wuffnpuff on June 10, 2009, 08:29:54 AM
You've done it again! I don't know how you do it.. but you really make people's characters look so darn cool! You're awesome!  :boogie  (I really love the shoes too for some reason..  :giggle )

Well, you see Wuffy, people's characters are cool to begin with, so I can't take all the credit there. Noone makes his character with the thought of it being ugly and boring. I simply seem to poses the skills needed to bring out that coolness out and that makes me extremely happy. And, yeah, I like the shoes as well  :mowsmile

Nice work thar. ;)

I think it looks amazing.

Quote from: Kipiru on June 10, 2009, 07:39:23 AM
Presenting my gift for Cogidubnus from the CCC- open for comments:

Cogidubnus (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1713/cogidubnusslash.jpg)

Behold! The very first drawing of Cog's feet, ever! xD

At least, that's what I seem to recall. This looks awesome, Kiripu. Thank you very much for drawing this for me. :3

Quote from: Cogidubnus on June 11, 2009, 10:27:04 PM
This looks awesome, Kiripu. Thank you very much for drawing this for me. :3

Could it possibly be avatar-material?  :3

An interesting pose that you made very well.. I like the wind effect on his coat. Lots of good motion.  :januscat

Here are two pics that have been in the making for quite some time.
The first one is of two girls from Bulgaria that I had made a promise to, to draw them dancing:
Dancing  (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9711/dancingqueensc.jpg)

And the second one is a picture of Aisha and Gareeku I had promised them after the beach pic incident  :mowsmile as a sort of atonemen on my part, I hope they like it:

Aisha and Gareeku (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6924/aishaandgareekucolor.jpg)

The most popular word slips again from my mouth.AWSOME :)

Aisha and Gareeku both look  quite vigorous teamed together and  ready to strike back with full might!
The dancing girls, I  hope they liked their tan, you put extra from it, both you shaded them sexy. The sparkle of the eye beneath the lock  of the girl with the blue jeans- really nice.

One thing ,the fingertips on the other girl's right hand look pretty thin and there is something to be added or maybe taken off her wrist , so that the hand could look more elegant or feminine.That's my opinion.

Keep it going Splendid  buddy!

agreed. it is and awesome pic. both of them look like they're ready to face some kind of menace together.

Once again, great work, Kipiru! The dancing ladies are lovely, and the picture of Gareeku and Aisha is downright awesome. :]

I agree with everything that's been typed about the picture of Aisha and Gareeku. I especially like the shading on their clothes.   :januscat

Great work all around Kip.. though I do have one small observation:  The dark colors on the dancing pic make it very hard to make out the details of the image, given that the details are done in black.  Maybe you could try working with the colors a bit differently if you want to show the details better?  Or maybe even change the coloring of the details themselves?

Oooo, awesome color work!!

Aisha and Gareeku look amazing! Nice work, Kipiru!

Oh my gawwwwd, it's done! XD

The Gar and Aish pic is absolutely friggin' awesome, they both look so fierce and heroic, and the coloring is brilliant, as it is on your other pics; thanks a ton! :3

And here is my vision of Dekari's fursona:

Dekari (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7219/dekaric.jpg)

This started as quite the complicated task, due to Dekari himself not quite sure what his character must look like, but ended up as being one of the most enjoyable, due to that freedom of concept!

Wow.  I am seriously at a loss of words right now.  That is way beyond anything that I expected.  Only thing I would say it's missing is the clan symbol (nevermind, was just pointed out to me)....but other than that...wow.


Thank you man, you rock.  I would be willing to pay you for that, that's how impressed I am with it.

Holy flying monkies, batman!!! O_O That is one INCREDIBLE piece!

I'm glad you liked it Dekari. You're next Ghost  :mowwink

...

SQEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!  :mowhappy

That is awesome.  I can see a definite improvement over your earlier pieces.

And here goes my version of E-voyager's fursona:

E-voyager (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8952/evoyager.jpg)

I know the shield looks a bit off, so my apologies for that.

Very nice.  Did you do the shield as a separate layer or actually as part of the picture?

As part of the picture. Though there are still ways for it to be redone, I really don't feel like it right now. Sorry for that E!

I love the picture quite a bit.  I'm always envious of folks who can draw technological stuff well, but I have to ask, should the feet be that small?  Is there a perspective I'm missing on it?

The colors and shading, as always, are awesome and the detail that goes into doing tech stuff just blows that away.

Not bad there

Nice pose!

Quote from: Mao Laoren on July 16, 2009, 12:21:17 PM
I have to ask, should the feet be that small?  Is there a perspective I'm missing on it?

I was aiming for a Megaman look here, which in my mind goes as him being a bit on the short size. That idea went half way and the legs stayed.

I like it! The only problem I see with the shield is that it just seems to be hanging there, like it's not attached in any way. I think the idea was to have it being projected by the three  modules on his bracer, but there doesn't seem to be anything symbolizing that.

Beyond that, great work again Kip! ^^

OH man... sorry I haven't posted in a while! >_< I've been missing on so much!

But yeah.. Kipiru.. if I said it once I'll say it a thousand times.. everything you draw looks so freakin awesome!! Aisha and Gareeku deffinitely look like a  tag-team of victory! Gareeku especially looks super tough!

Dekari.. wow... so wow.. kinda evil and menacing  but awesome!

And E looks so epic! ^_^ Great going Kipiru! :tighthug

I love the armor design, especially the arms and legs. The belt seems like it'd restrict leg movement, though. I like the hands and feet, too.

Thanks for the approval Wuffy and you WhtieFox. There was actually a period in my artistic development when I used to draw nothing but robots so I'm kind of comfortable with drawing mecha.

I wonder about his ability to transform?He can probably do that.He looks really smooth in blue, but I think yellow could also suit him . Nice pic Kip ;)

Quote from: Kipiru on July 16, 2009, 12:20:17 PM
As part of the picture. Though there are still ways for it to be redone, I really don't feel like it right now. Sorry for that E!

there is nothing to apologize for. as i said in the PM your picture floored me and i love it. 

Kip rules!

'Nuff said. ^_^

That picture is full of awesome. Wonderful shading, love the colors.   :januscat

Here goes my first Project Future fanart featuring the character that have appeared so far in the story:

The whole gang (http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9048/grouppicpf1.jpg) a bit of NSFW in the background  :mowwink

Cast by Tapewolf and Ren Gaulen' Project Future (http://project-future.org/):
Starting from the bottom, from left to right:
Joshua, R-MAC, Kirian
Second row:
Ashley, Lord Daryil, Jakob, Lord Page, Niall and Dorcan
Pin-up posters: Ruby and  Salomere

I get the feeling there may be a lot of suffering involved here.

Oh, and you have misspelt Dorcan's name.

Thank you very much.  I like the artwork a lot, however, much as it pains me to say this, the JPEG artifacts have despoiled it.  Jakob's shirt, for instance.

Am I right in thinking that you've been working on this over several days and saving it as a JPEG every time? If so, that is a problem.  I can probably restore it to something like its original state, but it will take time.
If you have been saving it in PNG format and it's the final conversion that's gone wrong, is there any chance in getting hold of a PNG copy?

Actually I did it all today, but as you noticed I kind of screwed it up a bit. I'm just still not good enough with the damn Photoshop. Sorry Tape.

Quote from: Gabi on July 29, 2009, 03:24:27 PM
Oh, and you have misspelt Dorcan's name.

Fixed!

Quote from: Kipiru on July 29, 2009, 03:30:23 PM
Actually I did it all today, but as you noticed I kind of screwed it up a bit. I'm just still not good enough with the damn Photoshop. Sorry Tape.

The only problem I saw was the compression artifacts.  In all other respects it's awesome.
I have to wonder what Dorcan will do when he sees his mother looking like that, though  >:3

Thanks for sending me the line-art, by the way.  I may need to use this as filler for Project Future unless Ren's phone line gets well soon, so I'll see about restoring the coloured version for that purpose.  If you really did colour all that in one single day you have my greatest respect!

Quote from: Tapewolf on July 29, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
I have to wonder what Dorcan will do when he sees his mother looking like that, though  >:3

Well she is a succubuss right and age is kind of irrelevant to the way they look, so I went all out with her:
Salomere- Dorcan's mother (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5026/wow2.jpg) -INSANELY NSFW!!!
And as for Rubi- I guess she got bored of waiting for Daryil to give her back her clothes and thought she might as well strike a pose. And what a pose it is:
Ruby (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1715/wow1gqu.jpg) -feathered, but still INSANELY NSFW!!!

Hawt.

The distance between the ribcage and the hip seems kind of long. I mean, on a human skelleton, there's less then a hand span between the two.

Other then that, awesome work. Especially the poses and muscle definition.

And hawt. Did I mention that?

Yes, I was wondering the same thing about Salomere, but was waiting to hear JP's comments.

Quote from: Gabi on July 29, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
Yes, I was wondering the same thing about Salomere, but was waiting to hear JP's comments.

Ah, but I had foreknowledge of the project.  True, I'd almost forgotten about it, and I'm still not entirely sure what to make of it, but I knew he was planning to do it.

In terms of anatomy my only real quibble is that Daryil is somewhat buff.  He's actually supposed to be more like Dan in that regard, lean and not terribly muscular.  Yes, Ren's new cast pic has him looking a bit like that, but Ren's excuse for that one was that he was channeling the rendition you did in his birthday present   >:3
(Not that I'm complaining - it's nice and different, it's just not quite how he's supposed to look...)

Quote from: Tapewolf on July 29, 2009, 05:34:40 PM
In terms of anatomy my only real quibble is that Daryil is somewhat buff.  He's actually supposed to be more like Dan in that regard, lean and not terribly muscular.  Yes, Ren's new cast pic has him looking a bit like that, but Ren's excuse for that one was that he was channeling the rendition you did in his birthday present   >:3
(Not that I'm complaining - it's nice and different, it's just not quite how he's supposed to look...)

Well I figured since Daryil is the leader of the clan, he has to have a certain amount of dominance and confidence about his posture. If you take a closer look you'll see that he isn't actually buff, but simply well formed.

Quote from: Kipiru on July 30, 2009, 04:44:25 AM
Well I figured since Daryil is the leader of the clan, he has to have a certain amount of dominance and confidence about his posture. If you take a closer look you'll see that he isn't actually buff, but simply well formed.

Ah, I see where you're coming from.  Daryil doesn't usually pull his weight as leader very much.  For the most part he takes a hands-off approach and lets people live their lives how they want.
Daryil usually only intervenes if there's some special occasion, something he wants from someone, or if one of the clan members is doing something he disapproves of and that has to be something pretty bad, e.g. killing another member or stealing souls.

Wow Kipiru.. I am completely floored!!! Especially from the... er.. pin-up posters.. and the line art of them ^_^ VERY excellent! :tighthug

Soon, porn of EVERYONE on the forums. :P

Quote from: Ghostwish on July 30, 2009, 11:27:52 AM
Soon, porn of EVERYONE on the forums. :P

I.. wouldn't go that far, but anyone who asks  :mowwink

Quote from: Kipiru on July 30, 2009, 01:31:42 PM

Quote from: Ghostwish on July 30, 2009, 11:27:52 AM
Soon, porn of EVERYONE on the forums. :P

I.. wouldn't go that far, but anyone who asks  :mowwink

I'm gonna get out of here before the flood hits. XD

Oooo, free porns?  >:3     .............j/k :P

I just need to type how awesome it is that you made this in a day. I mean wow, man.   :januscat

Quote from: Lysander on July 30, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
I just need to type how awesome it is that you made this in a day. I mean wow, man.   :januscat

Very much so.  I just wish he hadn't saved it with the quality slider set to 30% instead of 95%  :B
Seriously, R-Mac is adorable.  We may have to go with that kind of design when more panther characters are introduced.

looking good kiripu. i'll save it when i get on in a day or two

Wow.. Very nice work, Kip. :3 Sorry, couldn't post a comment earlier. :.

Kipiru, since you like unicorn characters (since you are one), why not take a look at Ignacious Gisli Furnac (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1629266)?  He's my own personal character that I will soon be adapting to the Furrae universe as I jump on the bandwagon.

I apologize about needing a Fur Affinity account to view the picture, as I drew him naked for reference and thus the picture is Mature rated and NSFW.

Here are some details about him that might not be apparent from the picture:

In the Furrae universe, he's a man-eating mustang class demon equine (like Kria and Aliph Soulstealer), which means he'll have bat-like wings if you choose to draw him with them.
He'll also have some markings but I haven't designed those yet. :(
His fur color is dirty grey.
His eyes have emerald green irises and blood red scleras, and slitted pupils.
His hair color is auburn red.
His hair color on fire (since he's fire elemental demon) is purple (potassium fueled fire) or black (think Hocus Pocus black-flame candle).
His horn is ruby red and looks like it was cut from a crystal ruby.
His slitted pupils and whiskers from him being a crossbred between a demon equine and a feline being.
The scar circling his right forearm marks where it was severed and re-attached by dark magic.

Quote from: Ren Gaulen on August 05, 2009, 12:44:22 AM
Wow.. Very nice work, Kip. :3 Sorry, couldn't post a comment earlier. :.

Thanks Ren, it was fun to do, even if it did come out a bit wrong  :mowwink
As for your ChaosMageX, I usually don't turn down requests and I don't plan on starting now, but I have to say that I am a bit out of shape lately and have a few things piled up, so your request will take a bit longer to do. Keep reminding me though, cause I sometimes tend to forget. And if possible to upload the ref pic somewhere else, cause I haven't got an AF account and frankly don't want one. Other than that- your character sounds fun, plus he's a unicorn- how can I refuse to draw that! :mowmeep

This may help.  I've airbrushed it but even so it's not going to remain there indefinitely.
http://www.project-future.org/1224001086.chaosmagex_pca-ignacious-lineart.png

Quote from: Tapewolf on August 05, 2009, 04:57:35 AM
This may help.  I've airbrushed it but even so it's not going to remain there indefinitely.
http://www.project-future.org/1224001086.chaosmagex_pca-ignacious-lineart.png

Thanks a million Tape! ChaosMageX, why are the middle fingers on his hand with hooves and do you really insist on them being there, cause I know it's your char, but that is totally unnecessary and ugly. Other than that, I think I'll genuinely enjoy making this character. Oh, and one more thing- clothing and weapons. Or should I draw him naked like he is here?

Quote from: Kipiru on August 05, 2009, 08:05:05 AM

Quote from: Tapewolf on August 05, 2009, 04:57:35 AM
This may help.  I've airbrushed it but even so it's not going to remain there indefinitely.
http://www.project-future.org/1224001086.chaosmagex_pca-ignacious-lineart.png

Thanks a million Tape! ChaosMageX, why are the middle fingers on his hand with hooves and do you really insist on them being there, cause I know it's your char, but that is totally unnecessary and ugly. Other than that, I think I'll genuinely enjoy making this character. Oh, and one more thing- clothing and weapons. Or should I draw him naked like he is here?

The hand design was something I saw somewhere, where someone I can't remember on either DeviantArt or Furaffinity took a new approach to drawing anthro hands by basing the anatomy around the the feet of their animal counterparts.
You can change it if you like, but I prefer all my characters to have at least three fingers, mostly so that they can flip others off. XP

Regarding his clothing, he prefers to wear loose or tight fitting clothing, but nothing too bulky or armor wise, since as a demon he can already harden his skin.
I can't really decide on his clothing at the moment, because I might draw him wearing different things later on.  For now, you might as well draw him in simple cargo shorts.  Whether or not you give him some upper garments is up to you, but it'll probably have to be something minor because of his wings.

When it comes to weapons, he tends to carry around something along the lines of really big final fantasy style swords, in order to compensate for his discrepancies below the belt. ;)  I think I'll let you get creative here too.

His demon markings consists of a series of dark grey spots running in a line from the between the tops of his nostrils all the way up to his horn.  These spots continue under his hair to the back of his head and down his spine, branching off to his arms and legs.

If you've seen Avatar: The Last Airbender, they branch in a similar way to Aang's arrows, except the lines of spots end halfway down his forearms and forelegs (which would be before the hocks of his digitigrade legs), instead of on the backs of his hands.

The spot line also branches onto his wings, wrapping around the metacarpal bones and the outermost carpal bones.
Three more branches break off from the spine to form two circlets around his torso, one at the base of his ribcage and another at his navel, ending at outer boundaries of the rectus abdominis muscles (the six-pack in layman's terms).
The third wraps around his neck and ends at the Sternocleidomastoideus muscles that form the anterior triangle of the neck.

To be exact, these side branches branch from the spine at points aligned with the first five chakras of the body, with the arm and wing lines both branching from the heart chakra point.  The leg lines branch at the root chakra, and the circlets branch at the sacral, solar plexus, and throat chakras.
In fact, like most unicorns, his horn could also be considered to be the point of his third eye chakra.

I hope that that's more than enough information for you to draw him, and I thank you very much for doing so.

If I ever get off my lazy ass and do it, he'll be appearing along with a giraffe amazon, a pyromaniac fallow deer, few other equines, and a nerdy bovine in a comic called "Flagrate Ungulates".

Right, so here is my gift for Dannysaysnoo form the CCC- open for critique:
Danny (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3066/dannysaysnoo.png)

and a character of Ghostwish:
Zanfib (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4407/zanfib.png)

Ooh, like Danny's shirt.  Shouldn't he be holding the world's last electric guitar or something, though?   :3

that's one hell of a tail on Zanfib :.

The word that Ghostwish always uses to describe him is "Ringtail"


I had always thought he meant some sort of rat  :sweatdrop

To put an IM conversation I had with Basilisk upon seeing Zanfib's rendition..

SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I love it! ^_^

And to you sillies about his tail, I can't believe yall haven't heard of a ringtail!

Linkage!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring-tailed_Cat

He's just oddly colored for a ringtail, really. ^^

Oh too cool Kipiru! It's nice to see Zanfib ^_^ for some reason I had a hard time actually visualizing him (heh, sorry Ghost =P) just because of the wacky colors... of.. er.. being monochromatic.. XD

Yet another girlfriend's fantasy self! Curious enough she is camera-shy, but has nothing against me drawing her. Not that I'm complaining or anything  :mowwink

Jasmin the fire witch (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/640/jasminawhite.png)

Quote from: Kipiru on August 13, 2009, 11:12:17 AM
Yet another girlfriend's fantasy self! Curious enough she is camera-shy, but has nothing against me drawing her. Not that I'm complaining or anything  :mowwink

Jasmin the fire witch (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/640/jasminawhite.png)

I've always loved your costume and armor designs, and this is no exception (and no, it has nothing to do with how revealing they are, although I suppose it helps :D)

Just a couple of small suggestions; instead of using greys for the shading, maybe you could try using colors like shades of purple or blue instead. Also, don't mix up airbrush shading with cel-shading; use one or the other, but not both.

Yes, her attire is very well drawn. It looks like the kind of thing a fire witch would wear... for sexual foreplay.

Quote from: Gabi on August 13, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
Yes, her attire is very well drawn. It looks like the kind of thing a fire witch would wear... for sexual foreplay.

Hunka hunka burnin' love?

Here is Jasmin in the dress I used as inspiration for this pic:
the real Jasmin (http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1295/jasminw.jpg)

She looks pretty, both in your drawing and in the RL picture...wait, I thought you said she was camera shy? *is confused*

I like how you draw fire too.

Oh how nice!! LOVE the outfit.. her hair is awesome! Very well done! :tighthug  I always enjoy seeing your drawings!

And now for a comeback, some long overdue projects of mine:

Kathia (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5804/katqlotusc.png) -a friend of mine that practices yoga- a bit NSFW

Sexy Matilda Formal (http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9666/matildahotc.png) -my idea of Formal wear for Matilda, or at least of some really alluring lingerie. Look out Dan! A bit NSFW!

Whoa that is sexy. I love Matilda's outfit. Not as cute as her black belt with butterfly brooch though  :giggle Nicely done!  :mowhappy

sexy in a cay dominatrix kind of way

Yeah, Matilda looks really nice. Those clothes are great. Also wonderful work on her unique anatomy, her hind legs ar very well done.   :januscat

Something does stand out to me... 90% of your characters have the same sort of sultry, half-lidded, come-hither look in their eyes, and the same pouty, plump lipped, half smile. Now, I'll be the first to admit that it's a pretty smexay look, but have you considered using other facial expressions? :B

(...It looks a little out of character for Matilda, actually.)

Matilda's outfit is awesome (hey, if Dan likes amazons this should be right up his alley...). The Kathia pic is impressive, if only for the proportions and anatomy in that camera-angle. The inking and coloring are pretty sharp, as ever, but the shading makes the characters look flat in places.

Anyway... nice work all around.

Both of those are awesome!! Wowsar!!!  >:3 I do especially like Matilda and the outfit you made for her =D the pose is great! "Look out Dan" Indeed!  :giggle  :boogie

Here are two pics inspired by my new girlfriend (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9918/bunnysunny.jpg)
Sunny Bunny (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/858/tanqbunny.png)
Tania The Vampire (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5769/tan4etovampc.png) -she has a thing for vampires, a real Twilight fan.

OH congrats Kipiru!!! ^_^ So that's what you've been up to..  >:3

Oooo and I like the bunny version of her :3 very nice.

What technique did you use to shade the highlights on the boots and gloves of the bunny?

Quote from: wuffnpuff on October 29, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
OH congrats Kipiru!!! ^_^ So that's what you've been up to..  >:3

Well, yeah...   :love3

Quote from: Tapewolf on October 29, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
What technique did you use to shade the highlights on the boots and gloves of the bunny?

Good old burn and dodge!

Some sci-fi this time:

Space Adventurer Tania (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/536/starridertanq.png)

Ohhhh man, I like her ^_^. Love the hair! Love her bell-bottoms! Love the... er.. I'm guessing besides the awesome guns one of her weapons is 'distraction'  >:3 Very nice, her smirk is very cool.  :boogie

Yeah, those pants are awesome.   :januscat

Quote from: wuffnpuff on November 08, 2009, 07:02:46 AM
Very nice, her smirk is very cool.  :boogie

I'll second that. Very cute, too.

It might be the color balance on my monitor, but all black on her torso blends into one big solid mass. The headset too. The color is so dark, it's hard to make out the lines.

The boots, bracers, and guns look really badass. The plate on her back looks like it would interfere with the movement of her shoulder blades, though. (But then, if we cared all that much about reality, we wouldn't be doing sci-fi or fantasy art, now would we? :3 )

Quote from: Kipiru on October 29, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Here are two pics inspired by my new girlfriend (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9918/bunnysunny.jpg)

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 07, 2009, 07:57:31 AM
Scuse me. *goes and gets his wife to stand in that position*

(Quoted from my art thread)

Durnit, I need to get an S.O. willing to model for me... 
>( {Envious rage! Curse you all!)

Quote from: WhiteFox on November 08, 2009, 09:39:23 PM
It might be the color balance on my monitor, but all black on her torso blends into one big solid mass. The headset too. The color is so dark, it's hard to make out the lines.

It's the color balance- on my screen everything is clearly visible. This isn't the first time I encounter this problem- it is the bane of CG coloring.

Quote from: WhiteFox on November 08, 2009, 09:39:23 PM

Quote from: Kipiru on October 29, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Here are two pics inspired by my new girlfriend (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9918/bunnysunny.jpg)

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 07, 2009, 07:57:31 AM
Scuse me. *goes and gets his wife to stand in that position*

(Quoted from my art thread)

Durnit, I need to get an S.O. willing to model for me... 
>( {Envious rage! Curse you all!)

That wasn't intended as a taunt or something " in your face...", I was just happy with it and felt the need to share. Everyone has someone out there meant for him  :mowwink

Very nice again Kip,I wonder what you will dish out next

Quote from: Kipiru on November 09, 2009, 03:23:39 AM
That wasn't intended as a taunt or something " in your face...", I was just happy with it and felt the need to share. Everyone has someone out there meant for him  :mowwink

I wasn't taunting, either. Hard as it may be to believe, I was actually genuinely trying to be helpful... ;-]