01/18/10 [Clans #3] - Kish'Ta - She's a Bat

[iceick]

opps double post.

[iceick]

You are not allowed to view this image.

Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood

Nope, I'm not.

Same here, and I see no reason for me to join sites just so I can follow a link.

And its not as if some one could post it somewhere else *cough* photobucket *cough*

I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.

[Tapewolf]

I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.

Quote pyramid!

If you mean FA, there's a setting in the control panel somewhere when you log in to switch the mature filter on and off.  If it's on, you'll get the message.

[iceick]

I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.

Quote pyramid!

If you mean FA, there's a setting in the control panel somewhere when you log in to switch the mature filter on and off.  If it's on, you'll get the message.

Ah, now can see it, thanks. Wow you can see more detail in this one. I'd like to...

*The rest of this post has been filtered out due to the PG rating.*

[Lucheek]

AAH.
AAH.
D8

Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.

[Tapewolf]

Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.

Yes, it came as a bit of a surprise.  Honestly?  I don't know whether it's still accurate.  But we may get a better idea of this as the leader overview goes on.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I'd say that's sensing, not necessarily feeding.

Ink was feeding. Fa'Lina? No idea.

[Eon]

I'm afraid I can't look at that for too long. The whole face-pulling-off thing is too creepy. 

[Anker Steadfast]

Yeah, like when briggs described Dan, that made me snort cola.  

Briggs... & Stratton?

LOL ... you spotted it.
Muffin for you!

I wonder, will this mini-arc settle the question of whether all clan leaders/founders are (or become) giants, or does appearing like that just tickle Cyra's fancy?

And Siar.  I don't know, but I doubt they have to.  If you want to impress or intimidate your children, giant is the way to go.  If you want them to think of you as a friend and equal, you'd probably assume a normal 2-wing form most of the time - accurate communication is only possible between equals.

Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that.

Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.

Yes, it came as a bit of a surprise.  Honestly?  I don't know whether it's still accurate.  But we may get a better idea of this as the leader overview goes on.

Well look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
The times of huge amounts of children has gone down, as life expectancy has gone up.
Today I think we could not muster more then 50 people or so.

Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.
Unless they have reason for having a lot of children, Aniz is not the standard I'm guessing.

And then some of them gets slain as well.
And if they have a founder, powers derived from the founder might give them an edge there.

[Tapewolf]

Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that.

Yeah.  She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much.  For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit

Well look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.

Depends what their sex drive is like, really.  'Cubi in DMFA look attractive, are stuck in their mid 20s for eons and if Kria is anything to go by have a reputation for seducing people.
Theoretically, yes - they'd limit their population.  In practice, we have no idea.

[Anker Steadfast]

Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that.

Yeah.  She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much.  For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit

Do we know wether or not Krish'Ta is a Giant or not ?

Edit :
On a sidenote, size doesn't always matter, but it does make you more imposing.

Well look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.

Depends what their sex drive is like, really.  'Cubi in DMFA look attractive, are stuck in their mid 20s for eons and if Kria is anything to go by have a reputation for seducing people.
Theoretically, yes - they'd limit their population.  In practice, we have no idea.

Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.

Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy.  

[Tapewolf]

Do we know wether or not Krish'Ta is a Giant or not ?

Like I say, it's probably something they can control.

Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.

AFAIK it's intended for adults rather than teens, but your point about the angst stands.

[iceick]

AAH.
AAH.
D8

LMAO, wow your fear was delicious.

I'm afraid I can't look at that for too long. The whole face-pulling-off thing is too creepy. 

Heck, I can see that as only a minor detail in the whole picture. In the long run though, you don't have to worry about compatition.

[AmigaDragon]

Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.

Depends on whether your affinity is angst or not. Just think, having kids just so you can feed off their angst.

[candide]

Just take a man like John Dee who tried to make a Seal of God using math and symbolism!

But mathematics and symbolism are both magical.

Srsly.

Have you seen her age? I think that technically classifies as a face lift.

I just noticed this.... she's doing the best *facepalms*  Ever.

So ... Many ... Bad ... Puns ...

not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein

I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!

Alternatively she's *not* wearing someone elses skin suit, and is wearing her *own* skinsuit ... aka, she morphed herself to look like a wolf, then cut it off and stitched it back on again.

That's possibly even creepier than if it's someone elses. 

And more appropriate.  Remember:



I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them.  I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh.  Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added.  And dangling from her neck, or what's left of it, I see what looks to mee like the charm hanging from a necklace.  Or the end of a ribbon.  There are several horror stories where a beautiful woman has a ribbon tightly wrapped around her neck, the ribbon being the only thing keeping her head attached.  Which would fit a nightmare-eating clan.  In any case, that bit-o-silver-dangly ends; it doesn't extend.  Not much of a zipper then, is it?


Besides, I'm sure that talented 'cubi could not only shapeshift severed/torn skin, but even mostly-detached faces (or other body parts), too.

Which, as Anker pointed out, is even more creepy.  And probably highly unnerving to other 'cubi, besides.

[Ted Schiller]

Kish'Ta was one of the first clans to join the SAIA Academy.
Many of the professors, especially those who teach dream travel, are from her clan.

These folks teach at SAIA, and Abel thinks Alexsi is the scariest person he ever met.   

She's slipping.

She's hitting her stride.

With regards,
Ted

[iceick]

not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein

I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!

Alternatively she's *not* wearing someone elses skin suit, and is wearing her *own* skinsuit ... aka, she morphed herself to look like a wolf, then cut it off and stitched it back on again.

That's possibly even creepier than if it's someone elses. 

And more appropriate.  Remember:



Besides, I'm sure that talented 'cubi could not only shapeshift severed/torn skin, but even mostly-detached faces (or other body parts), too.

Heh, heh, heh, love your answer, I only wish I thought up that response.

[Shachza]

Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy.  

I'm sure its very simple for shapeshifters to uhh...  detach certain parts from ummm...  other bits.

*PG rating preserved!*

For now...

[iceick]

Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy.  

I'm sure its very simple for shapeshifters to uhh...  detach certain parts from ummm...  other bits.

*PG rating preserved!*

For now...

You mean like how Mink is a girl, but people keep thinking she's a guy because of her chest?
EDIT: If I'm wrong about Mink's gender, I would either like to have Amber or a quote from Amber to prove it.

[AmigaDragon]

Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that.

Yeah.  She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much.  For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit

Or maybe she can cause the hide to enlarge/shrink to fit whatever size she is at the moment.

I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them.  I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh.  Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added.  And dangling from her neck, or what's left of it, I see what looks to mee like the charm hanging from a necklace. 

I think that 'charm' is what they're seeing as a zipper.

[Mao]

You mean like how Mink is a girl, but people keep thinking she's a guy because of her chest?

Uh, since when was Mink's gender ever clarified at all?  It's a 'cubi.  Unless it outright states what it was at birth (i.e. before it grew into the 'cubi ability to shapeshift) its gender is unknown and kinda pointless.  It can be whatever gender it wants once it hits its shape shifting age.  Including 'none'.

[127.0.0.2]

It's a 'cubi.  Unless it outright states what it was at birth (i.e. before it grew into the 'cubi ability to shapeshift) its gender is unknown and kinda pointless.  It can be whatever gender it wants once it hits its shape shifting age.

Now this raises a lot of interesting to disturbing possibillities, looking back at the comic...  

[thegayhare]

And more appropriate.  Remember:



I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them.  I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh.  Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added. 

Well if you follow the link I posted to ambers fa page
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/

You can more easily spot the zipper which is at the neck on her chest, and you can also see the big stitches round the butt wings.

also there is a big gap in the shapshifting theory.   Cubi can't shapshift away there clan mark so if she'd just shapshifted her form to look like she's wearing a costume we'd still see here mark, she couldn't cover it up that way. and skinning her self wouldn't work because her own pelt would have the mark too.  so it has to be another fur's skin

[candide]

And more appropriate. Remember:  

 I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them.  I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh.  Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added.

Well if you follow the link I posted to ambers fa page http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/

You can more easily spot the zipper which is at the neck on her chest, and you can also see the big stitches round the butt wings.

You are indeed correct!  I took a look (forgot that I had a FA account), and in the comments, Amber states that Kish'Ta is wearing a cheap off-the-rack costume, but that the face is her own.

Which now takes it from creepy to, "HEH?!?" in 40 seconds.

(Why the heck wear a costume???  She can shapeshift ferchrissyssake!  Why???)

[Tapewolf]

You are indeed correct!  I took a look (forgot that I had a FA account), and in the comments, Amber states that Kish'Ta is wearing a cheap off-the-rack costume, but that the face is her own.

Well, you can get a leather jacket with a zip in it, so the fact that it had one and some stitches wouldn't prevent it being made from the desecrated remains of some unfortunate who got in her way.
But yes, it seems to have been purchased at a department store.  Amber's bit about "Between you and me guys," makes me wonder if she wants that especially public or not, but we can easily ditch this part of it later if she objects  

Whether the mask is something she built herself or the product of shapeshifting is a little vague, but from Amber's other comments about Kish'Ta being all show and little substance, it seems like she's just a bit nuts rather than a grade A psychopath.  I'm not quite sure whether to be greatly relieved or slightly let down.

[iceick]

I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.

[Feather Dancer]

I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.

She probably can, justa combo of lazy and flayed skins smell bad quite quickly.

[Tapewolf]

I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.

I'm sure she could.  But the key to having such power and keeping it is to use that power responsibly.  If you create too many enemies you could end up like Siar and the others  

[thegayhare]

(Why the heck wear a costume???  She can shapeshift ferchrissyssake!  Why???)

because that would ruin the effect.

If she just shapshifted her clan symbol would be front and center and any one who knew enough about cubi would know it's a shapshifting trick.  while here if its a suit you don't know if its real or not.

Mam I hadn't gone back to check for a while so I missed the off the rack costume thing

[Amber Williams]

Kish'Ta is a clan leader who is far less vicious than one would assume.  And in a way, being terrifying is an artform to her and her clan.  Which is often about subtle things and applying details that borderline absurd and twist realities.  If anything, Kish'Ta and her clan have had a lot of time to refine themselves and so brutal tactics just feel cheap to many of their clan.

As for the fox outfit, as I mentioned on FA, the actual suit is average department story jammies.  She did modify the sides to let her wings stick out. Because really, walking around in a skin suit just makes you look morbid and uncreative. Not to mention oh god the itchies. Having tea in fuzzy jammies then suddenly pop off your face, that's entertainment.

And really, she's 24k years old. Who in their right mind is going to tell her she's too old to be wearing jammies?

It's good to be the boss.