apparently dan is still pissed about six years ago...
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Dan is frightening in that fourth panel.
So, Dan was about 18 or so when he and Regina met? And Regina doesn't seem to think he could have learned much in six years: is that a normal Demonic mindset? Oh, Regina is in trouble
PS: Darn, you were faster than me.
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 10:53:43 PM
Dan is frightening in that fourth panel.
So, Dan was about 18 or so when he and Regina met? And Regina doesn't seem to think he could have learned much in six years: is that a normal Demonic mindset? Oh, Regina is in trouble
PS: Darn, you were faster than me.
She's most likely been thinking that he was a being, not a creature.
Also, the comic becomes 100x funnier when you're listening to the video game webcast at the same time as reading it. Mostly because of their reactions to it.
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I meant: she thought he was a normal winged being.
But still, six years? He could have learned a whole style of combat in that time, studied magic, learned anti-demon tactics... a lot of stuff.
Angry Dan! :cvheart :cvheart :cvheart :love2
Hee hee hee~
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 10:57:29 PM
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I meant: she thought he was a normal winged being.
But still, six years? He could have learned a whole style of combat in that time, studied magic, learned anti-demon tactics... a lot of stuff.
She's also probably basing her judgment on what
she has managed to accomplish.
And yes, Angry Dan is awesome.
DAMN. That... that managed to frighten me! I suppose it's because I never thought of Dan as scary. But... DAMN. That... SCARY! Especially that "I learned to hear thoughts" part! So freaking scary when you know you can't THINK of a response because the enemy will hear it!
i wonder how badass dan is going to get when he actually starts to fight, rather than just intimidate as he is now...
poor regina... what can of worms have you opened >:3
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 10:57:29 PM
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I meant: she thought he was a normal winged being.
But still, six years? He could have learned a whole style of combat in that time, studied magic, learned anti-demon tactics... a lot of stuff.
To someone with a Demon's lifespan, six years probably
isn't a lot of time.
And, despite the fact I absolutely love the fact that Dan is full of anger and still looks frighteningly competent, my actual suspicion is that this may turn into one of those "give in to the dark side" style moments where he realises that he looks like a monster to her.
Whether he cares because it's a person who killed his friends is another thing entirely.
Now, back to swooning over shirtless angryDan~ :love2
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
Quote from: AndersW on February 15, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
This one. (http://www.justin.tv/balade)
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
Not only that, Regina attacked him first, so he is fully justified as far as self defense goes. Plus he can hear her planning to kill him in her thoughts, so I would think he has 'the right' to chase her around. I'm not however, sure if he could, I would think Kria would intervene if either got in a position to do something like that to the other. Kria doesn't seem to care for Regina as much as she does for Lorenda, but still...
I'd also love to see what would happen if Lorenda saw Dan and Regina fighting...
I notice that Dan's headwings seem to have appeared since the last time we saw him, too.
Quote from: Sukasa on February 15, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
I notice that Dan's headwings seem to have appeared since the last time we saw him, too.
As have his tentacles and it looks suspiciously like he's even extended his claws for some old school catfighting.
I unfortunately remember hearing that a full-grown demon would be able to beat a full-grown Cubi mano-a-mano. It remains to be seen if Regina is such a demon, however.
That said, this did not stop this comic from garnering a fanboyish squee. :3
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: AndersW on February 15, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
This one. (http://www.justin.tv/balade)
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
Killing is too addicting, regardless of who your victim is--once you've crossed the line and taken another life, it becomes like a drug, and you have to do it again.
And again.
And again.
And eventually you'll come to lower your standards for who can die and who must live, just so that you can have prey....
At any rate, that was a real WOW-zer of a comic (yeah, I know, lame word, but it's all I can think of right now)! :erk I guess Dan's going to have no choice but to come to terms with his cubi heritage now (at least somewhat). Makes me wonder, though, how he'll act when this is over and he's able to calm down and look back over it rationally....
And it's great to finally see Regina that way.... ;)
Quote from: Cogidubnus on February 15, 2009, 11:37:37 PM
I unfortunately remember hearing that a full-grown demon would be able to beat a full-grown Cubi mano-a-mano. It remains to be seen if Regina is such a demon, however.
That said, this did not stop this comic from garnering a fanboyish squee. :3
I think that Regina is probably
not fully-grown.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on February 15, 2009, 11:37:37 PM
I unfortunately remember hearing that a full-grown demon would be able to beat a full-grown Cubi mano-a-mano. It remains to be seen if Regina is such a demon, however.
That said, this did not stop this comic from garnering a fanboyish squee. :3
Offhand, since Dan is also a trained and skilled adventurer and Regina is a spoiled demon who doesn't seem to believe that a being can get better in just six years, I'd say Dan has the advantage.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 15, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
Killing is too addicting, regardless of who your victim is--once you've crossed the line and taken another life, it becomes like a drug, and you have to do it again.
And again.
And again.
And eventually you'll come to lower your standards for who can die and who must live, just so that you can have prey....
Um... wow. That's just disturbing. Call me an optimist, but I really think that while killing might get easier, only someone who has problems would actually start enjoying it. Dan doesn't seem to enjoy killing Dark Pegasus: he did it because he had to. In this case, he'd enjoy hurting Regina because she hurt his friends: this is payback. Dan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to become a murderer. At least, Dan right now.
Quote from: LionHeart on February 15, 2009, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on February 15, 2009, 11:37:37 PM
I unfortunately remember hearing that a full-grown demon would be able to beat a full-grown Cubi mano-a-mano. It remains to be seen if Regina is such a demon, however.
That said, this did not stop this comic from garnering a fanboyish squee. :3
I think that Regina is probably not fully-grown.
Plus, Dan has his adventurer's skills to fall back on. Even if he didn't have his Cubi abilities, I'm sure he could hurt her by picking up one of his swords and smashing her with it. He was able to beat Dark Pegasus without actively using his Cubi abilities, and I don't think Regina is as powerful as Dark Pegasus.
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:43:24 PM
Um... wow. That's just disturbing. Call me an optimist, but I really think that while killing might get easier, only someone who has problems would actually start enjoying it. Dan doesn't seem to enjoy killing Dark Pegasus: he did it because he had to. In this case, he'd enjoy hurting Regina because she hurt his friends: this is payback. Dan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to become a murderer. At least, Dan right now.
And tell me, when he looks back on it afterwards, when he sees how he used his cubi skills to instill fear and terror in his opponent, and may or may not use said skills in combat... what's he going to think of himself and his heritage? Useful? Or will he simply worry more about what 'monsters' cubi can be?
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 15, 2009, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:43:24 PM
Um... wow. That's just disturbing. Call me an optimist, but I really think that while killing might get easier, only someone who has problems would actually start enjoying it. Dan doesn't seem to enjoy killing Dark Pegasus: he did it because he had to. In this case, he'd enjoy hurting Regina because she hurt his friends: this is payback. Dan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to become a murderer. At least, Dan right now.
And tell me, when he looks back on it afterwards, when he sees how he used his cubi skills to instill fear and terror in his opponent, and may or may not use said skills in combat... what's he going to think of himself and his heritage? Useful? Or will he simply worry more about what 'monsters' cubi can be?
Probably worry about becoming a monster. Which will in all likelihood, keep him from taking that step.
I'm not saying he SHOULD kill Regina: spoiled demons are hard to come by. I'm not even saying he will. I'm saying that if he did, Dan wouldn't immediately snap and turn into Dark Cyra or something like that.
Aw... I feel bad for Dan. He looks so angry. I'm kind of hoping he doesn't kill Regina, so maybe if she runs really fast.
Also: standard demon might beat standard Cubi, but Dan is not standard cubi. He's had lots of adventurer experience as well as very, very minor Cubi training. Fair match? Maybe, but I'm betting on Dan.
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:48:53 PM
Probably worry about becoming a monster. Which will in all likelihood, keep him from taking that step.
I'm not saying he SHOULD kill Regina: spoiled demons are hard to come by. I'm not even saying he will. I'm saying that if he did, Dan wouldn't immediately snap and turn into Dark Cyra or something like that.
Which was actually my original point. It's not that he will or won't kill Regina, it's that he's going to realise he looks just as monstrous as 'all the other cubi' out there that he's scared of becoming. And that's what stops him from killing Regina. As much as we probably want to see her get smacked around, his fear of becoming 'evil' like that is, as you said, what will probably stop him from taking that lethal step.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 15, 2009, 11:46:15 PMOr will he simply worry more about what 'monsters' cubi can be?
Let's hope that's not the case. Angry, shirtless Dan scaring the bejeezerz out of Regina makes me squee with delight.
Probably because I'm such a sucker for powerlevels ever-so-suddenly flaring over 9000, and dramatic displays of UNSTOPPABLE POWAAR!
Offhand, I'm contemplating making that scared!Regina face into an avatar.
Or a wallpaper for myself. That'd be epic.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 15, 2009, 11:52:16 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:48:53 PM
Probably worry about becoming a monster. Which will in all likelihood, keep him from taking that step.
I'm not saying he SHOULD kill Regina: spoiled demons are hard to come by. I'm not even saying he will. I'm saying that if he did, Dan wouldn't immediately snap and turn into Dark Cyra or something like that.
Which was actually my original point. It's not that he will or won't kill Regina, it's that he's going to realise he looks just as monstrous as 'all the other cubi' out there that he's scared of becoming. And that's what stops him from killing Regina. As much as we probably want to see her get smacked around, his fear of becoming 'evil' like that is, as you said, what will probably stop him from taking that lethal step.
Good point. Though I'll say that it might be more that Dan is afraid of becoming a monster to get his revenge rather than the revenge itself. I think.
Quote from: Cvstos on February 15, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
DAMN. That... that managed to frighten me! I suppose it's because I never thought of Dan as scary. But... DAMN. That... SCARY! Especially that "I learned to hear thoughts" part! So freaking scary when you know you can't THINK of a response because the enemy will hear it!
Seconded.
This is an awesome comic. In so many ways. Love. Yay, Amber.
Yay wing tentacles. Been a while
Dan Aaryanna would be proud! I'm not sure about you mom as you have yet to inflict pain to match the fear you've inspired in that poor undead demon girl.
Quote from: e_voyager on February 16, 2009, 12:06:01 AM
Dan Aaryanna would be proud! I'm not sure about you mom as you have yet to inflict pain to match the fear you've inspired in that poor undead demon girl.
Regina is not undead. She is a normal demon, who has chosen not to regenerate her wing.
Parallels! So many parallels! (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php)
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on February 15, 2009, 10:52:31 PM
apparently dan is still pissed about six years ago...
Regina nearly killed both he and Wildy, I'd be pissed too. I'm assuming that that's Wildy's blood on Regina's hands in the flashback panel where she first appeared.
Quote from: Tycoon on February 16, 2009, 12:14:35 AM
Parallels! So many parallels! (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php)
what parallels, deadly maid hiding in the shadows after assaulting a monster does not equate to must escape, get mistaken for low ranking henchman, ow my ankle, OMG monster WTF!!!?.
EDIT, if you want parallels compare the "what makes a web comic great" to the later story lines
God... I was a huge fan of Regina before she recently reappeared and I am still a fan of hers (because she's a psychopath, gotta love someone who'd murder for the lulz). But right now, with this comic, I really hope she loses. Just so I can see Dan rip her apart. A trained adventurer, who is both raging and focused (God, but I would love to hear his voice there, overflowing with malice and hatred), and he's managed to pull out four headed-tentacles. His opponent seems to think she is no match for him and she is probably right.
In other words, Dan is so hot right now.
Quote from: e_voyager on February 16, 2009, 12:06:01 AM
Dan Aaryanna would be proud! I'm not sure about you mom as you have yet to inflict pain to match the fear you've inspired in that poor undead demon girl.
This was my thought exactly!
So the horns on the tentacle-heads double as claws? He's scratching up that pillar there with what looks like a tentacle head horns.
the tentacles can be claws or heads; they morph, remember.
Let's not forget that dan's cubi abilities are somewhat learned from Abel's (who learned from kria, and destania) This is so circular it hurts!!! http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_019.php
Quote from: LigerJet on February 16, 2009, 12:44:10 AM
So the horns on the tentacle-heads double as claws? He's scratching up that pillar there with what looks like a tentacle head horns.
The tentacles are affected by a 'Cubi's shapeshifting abilities as well, you know. Those probably are simply giant claws.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on February 16, 2009, 12:47:06 AM
the tentacles can be claws or heads; they morph, remember.
gah, microwave messed up my internet and you beat me to it =/
Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that I have to wait til Friday to see the
real fun begin...
Tikki: it appears that your avatar was cropped from somewhere. May I see the original image?
Look at Abel's story, when Hennya bites "Cid". Look at front page. See something? :P
My laptop pooped out as I clicked submit. Old phat PSP to the rescue -.-
Edit: Let's not forget that Dan killed an adult demon twice. Without cubi abilities. When you adventure, you're killing things that are experienced. Regina is young. Dan has had experience in killing fighters. Civilians are defenseless.
Reginia's screwed.
Angry Dan is Awesome :3
Yay! Demon's Slasher Flick. Young demon couple getting it going out in the woods coming up next. :D
With regards,
Ted
Oh that's so awesome.
Dan looks so terrifying and capable for once! xp
Quote from: Sukasa on February 15, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
I notice that Dan's headwings seem to have appeared since the last time we saw him, too.
I think the idea is he's actively using his Cubi powers and no longer really cares so long as Regina is killed (awww), to the point where he holds back his racism temporarily to reach his goal. That or he is so angry he's lost control.
well that and it requites concentration to hid them it's like tensing a muscle. if you it might be easy to an extent but if you lose focus your lose your grip. after all it maybe easy to walk around with one eye closed if you practice but you get frightened or forgetful and you'll open you closed eye again.;
Two moments of awesome in one arc, he's on a roll. Look out for plunging warp-aci though.
Note for those who didn't know. In the last panel, Regina's saying the equal of "Okay, new plan. Piss self. Run." Reason Amber used a different word for it is beyond me, since the word's shown up before. ("Nothing pisses off a Fae more than their great revenge being foiled by their target dying." Or something to that effect.)
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:15:56 AM
Note for those who didn't know. In the last panel, Regina's saying the equal of "Okay, new plan. Piss self. Run." Reason Amber used a different word for it is beyond me, since the word's shown up before. ("Nothing pisses off a Fae more than their great revenge being foiled by their target dying." Or something to that effect.)
I dunno, maybe because piddle sounds funnier than piss?
Dan has upgraded from Class C+ random fight to Class B- boss fight in 6 years. The similarities of Comic 907 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php) and Comic 973 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php) are astounding, though the switch in characters is what makes it so beautiful and histerical. Too bad I can't sit back and watch Dan scare the crap out of Regina in person while eating popcorn.
Dark Pegasus/Aliph is considered a Class C+ bossfight for scale. Origonally that would make Dan a Class C+ Bossfight but with the new addition of Cubi powers he gains a level. Dan's bossfight status may be higher but I am being conservative.
Cubi are the hybrid offspring of Demons and Angels (neither are weak, just have different styles) so a Cubi VS Demon is not a one sided fight.
...I am officially at the edge of my seat.
Dan looks so intimidating, so focused and so AWESOME!
There is a whole list things of why Regina is in trouble. The top two in no particular order are.
Dan is now a demon with all the power perks (even if he is using basic training and instinct) and Regina underestimated the recent power gap between her and Dan... even though it's mostly intimidation at the moment.
Freddy got nothing on Dan.
Quote from: senrath on February 16, 2009, 02:19:38 AM
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:15:56 AM
Note for those who didn't know. In the last panel, Regina's saying the equal of "Okay, new plan. Piss self. Run." Reason Amber used a different word for it is beyond me, since the word's shown up before. ("Nothing pisses off a Fae more than their great revenge being foiled by their target dying." Or something to that effect.)
I dunno, maybe because piddle sounds funnier than piss?
I'd rather the latter word be used, but then again. It's due to my burning white vendetta against censorship. Kinda considering the word's shown up at least twice prior.
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:54:38 AM
Quote from: senrath on February 16, 2009, 02:19:38 AM
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:15:56 AM
Note for those who didn't know. In the last panel, Regina's saying the equal of "Okay, new plan. Piss self. Run." Reason Amber used a different word for it is beyond me, since the word's shown up before. ("Nothing pisses off a Fae more than their great revenge being foiled by their target dying." Or something to that effect.)
I dunno, maybe because piddle sounds funnier than piss?
I'd rather the latter word be used, but then again. It's due to my burning white vendetta against censorship. Kinda considering the word's shown up at least twice prior.
Personally I like the script of today's comic. The use of the words Regina used was very strategic as they show her mental maturity.
In that 6 years, Regina's growth rate probably remained stagnant while Dan advanced leaps and bounds both physically and mentally.
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 15, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
Killing is too addicting, regardless of who your victim is--once you've crossed the line and taken another life, it becomes like a drug, and you have to do it again.
And again.
And again.
And eventually you'll come to lower your standards for who can die and who must live, just so that you can have prey....
Um... wow. That's just disturbing. Call me an optimist, but I really think that while killing might get easier, only someone who has problems would actually start enjoying it. Dan doesn't seem to enjoy killing Dark Pegasus: he did it because he had to. In this case, he'd enjoy hurting Regina because she hurt his friends: this is payback. Dan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to become a murderer. At least, Dan right now.
I'm not necessarily saying it becomes more pleasurable--yeah, I did give that impression, I know--but at best it becomes less loathsome, if you take my meaning. In other words, one becomes desensitized to it, to the point where it becomes like swatting flies.
Which is worse?
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:54:38 AM
Quote from: senrath on February 16, 2009, 02:19:38 AM
Quote from: Minishear on February 16, 2009, 02:15:56 AM
Note for those who didn't know. In the last panel, Regina's saying the equal of "Okay, new plan. Piss self. Run." Reason Amber used a different word for it is beyond me, since the word's shown up before. ("Nothing pisses off a Fae more than their great revenge being foiled by their target dying." Or something to that effect.)
I dunno, maybe because piddle sounds funnier than piss?
I'd rather the latter word be used, but then again. It's due to my burning white vendetta against censorship. Kinda considering the word's shown up at least twice prior.
I'm with both senrath and Madmann in that (a) piddle sounds funnier and (b) it's very telling of Regina's mindset. She's extremely immature and selfish, and especially as far as demon-lifespan maturity goes, I don't think she's got much credit. Also, 'piddle' kind of brings up the idea of being so scared you can't even pee properly, whereas 'piss' is more like... well... pissing. Peeing profusely, if you will. I think Amber wrote the script like she wanted to write the script, and I doubt any concerns about censorship in regards to the word 'piss' were even in her head at the time. It may be four letters long, but it's hardly a censorship-worthy word.
*cough* I got so intrigued by the discussion there I forgot what I originally came to say, which was HOLY CRAP. Dan looks AWESOME and TERRIFYING. *I* was scared. :0 And shirtless!Dan is shweet, and I love to see him using his Cubi powers, though he's probably going to trip out about them soon. Still anticipating an Abel/Devin reunion, too... :eager
There is one way to escape from an angry Dan and that is with a naked Amazon
Amber never ceases to entertain me. I anticipate some smiting next update! :mwaha
GOOOOO DAN! Man, does he ever mean business. Total love for the angry look- didn't think Dan had it in him! Regina is toast!
Ahahaha xD
It's so good to see Dan finally having a true badass moment.
And speaking of parallels and old comics: My initial connection was to this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_562.php) "Cubi can read minds" revelation, mostly because it's such a different take on this theme in terms of mood and atmosphere. Really highlights the more fundamental differences between Abel and Dan, I think. Or maybe I'm reading too much into this. :paranoid
...wait, with the new schedule now being Thursday to Monday, this means that this is our "Weekend" Cliffhanger! Noooooo! D:
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 16, 2009, 03:18:15 AM
I'm not necessarily saying it becomes more pleasurable--yeah, I did give that impression, I know--but at best it becomes less loathsome, if you take my meaning. In other words, one becomes desensitized to it, to the point where it becomes like swatting flies.
Which is worse?
So, which is worse: not caring for killing, but not enjoying doing it, or enjoying killing and doing it because it's fun? Offhand and from my perspective, killing because it's fun seems a lot worse than simply being desensitized to killing.
Now, if killing doesn't matter to you because you see everyone else as beneath you and not worth caring about... that's a different story entirely. But Dan doesn't seem to be that type, so it doesn't really matter at this point. At least, I don't think so.
Quote from: Sid on February 16, 2009, 03:45:29 AM
...wait, with the new schedule now being Thursday to Monday, this means that this is our "Weekend" Cliffhanger! Noooooo! D:
:mwaha
Ah, I loved that. Thank you.
Eh, no matter what the motive or mindset may happen to be, killing always ends with somebody dying.
I like Regina so far. She's one of the more interesting characters I've seen. Something about naive and murderous qualities all in one seems almost untouched. I might be wrong though.
Regina better hope Kria catches up quickly... or she is in a world of trouble. I think she failed her moral check. :P
Presumably Kria will have SOMETHING to say about Regina being killed in her home... of course, knowing her, it might be "Why, Dan, you are so sexy when you are mad."
That is just sheer awesome.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 16, 2009, 03:18:15 AM
I'm not necessarily saying it becomes more pleasurable--yeah, I did give that impression, I know--but at best it becomes less loathsome, if you take my meaning. In other words, one becomes desensitized to it, to the point where it becomes like swatting flies.
True, though Dan has already made a career out of killing people even before he was a 'Cubi (so to speak).
Personally, I hope he realises that 'Cubi powers can be damn useful for defending or protecting your friends, not just for committing random acts of evil. As Janus has already mentioned, he's probably not going to be too happy about this afterwards, but right now it looks like his best bet. Besides, she's already decided to murder him.
This episode might be one of the keys to his coming to terms with what he is. In the meantime, he looks awesome.
...Don't make him angry. You won't like him when he's angry.
I always knew that Dan can be badass when he gets serious! :>
Eeeeee!
Badass Dan is badass.
*grabs popcorn*
Quote from: WhiteFire on February 16, 2009, 04:06:30 AM
Regina better hope Kria catches up quickly... or she is in a world of trouble. I think she failed her moral check. :P
Presumably Kria will have SOMETHING to say about Regina being killed in her home... of course, knowing her, it might be "Why, Dan, you are so sexy when you are mad."
What makes your post even funnier for me is that I am betting Kira would say something similar to that. Dan does have many things going for him in his badassery moment.
1 - He has a focused look that is just as intimidating as the dragon heads and wing talons.
2 - Even his dragon heads look angry.
3 - He's coming around a corner, speaking with doom, dread and destruction in his voice... that's +10 badass points right there. For some reason when I read this comic I hear Dan speaking in a calm manner which makes the upcoming implied butchering more eerie.
4 - He's carving into a stone column with a talon.
5 - Dan herd her...
6 - ...Regina attacked first.
7 - Mad says the scariest type of anger is the restrained type... Mad thinks that Dan is pulling that off quite well. Restrained anger gets +15 badass points
Half of me is betting if Aaryanna saw Dan this moment she would glee over in love/lust.
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 04:48:11 AM
4 - He's carving into a stone column with a talon.
Is he going to pay for fixing that?
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 04:48:11 AM
7 - Mad says the scariest type of anger is the restrained type... Mad thinks that Dan is pulling that off quite well. Restrained anger gets +15 badass points
..I feel that if he releases this anger now he'll blast the entire hallway. Or develop mind bullets. :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 04:53:12 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 04:48:11 AM
4 - He's carving into a stone column with a talon.
Is he going to pay for fixing that?
Knowing Kria - most likely. :3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 16, 2009, 04:56:31 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 04:48:11 AM
7 - Mad says the scariest type of anger is the restrained type... Mad thinks that Dan is pulling that off quite well. Restrained anger gets +15 badass points
..I feel that if he releases this anger now he'll blast the entire hallway. Or develop mind bullets. :B
ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA....ORAAAAA!
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 16, 2009, 05:03:02 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 16, 2009, 04:56:31 AM
..I feel that if he releases this anger now he'll blast the entire hallway. Or develop mind bullets. :B
ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA....ORAAAAA!
Regina is no Dio, she won't even be able to answer to that properly. :/
A great update.
I wonder how Kria will react to the situation. Will she allow Dan to keep going? Though I doubt Regina means much to her, she may feel somewhat responsible for her.
I think Kria will allow Dan to chase after Regina for while, if only for entertainment. Regina would be the one to clean things up anyways I'm sure.
And Fi should probably be paying more attention to Dan... It'd be interesting if Fi notices what's going on and decides to go find Abel to help calm him down.
I have a crazy theory that Regina would find enough spirit in herself to try and take on Dan, only making him even angrier though, and then Kria would have to step in and stop Dan from killing Regina by kicking his ass to snap him out of berserker rage. She will then find some way to convince the youngsters to stop trying to kill each other (at least in the house. :3). I'm probably expecting too much, but I would love to see Kria do something cool.
..Actually, she might step in even before any actual fight begins and put the fear of god into Dan and Regina to make them come to their senses. :B
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: AndersW on February 15, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
This one. (http://www.justin.tv/balade)
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
Didn't the comic cover that one before? Like here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_934.php) through (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_935.php) here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_936.php)?
Also: SQUEEEEEE!!!
And if the headwings didn't tip her off, she has a lot to learn.
Regina has learned the following in the last few minutes.
1. Kria is having a meeting with a cubi Representative.
2. Daniel Ti'Fiona is here. (You could almost hear her mind starting to crack.)
3. Dan is now a cubi. (If she knows what wing-heads mean, make that "Dan is now a rather powerful cubi.")
Conclusions that can be drawn from Regina's perspective include:
- I just picked a fight with a [powerful?] cubi rep who has a grudge against me and can read my mind.
- I may have ruined whatever negotiations Kria was involved in.
I like to think the reason that Regina can form a coherent escape plan is that her higher brain functions have shut down in self-defense to prevent her from realizing just how badly screwed she may be. :3
I didn't notice, last night...
.. the tentacle head over his left wing looks excellent.
And I make that either four or five tentacles, depending on if the two claws currently gouging the pillar are a single tentacle with two claws, or two tentacles; the pillar in the way makes it hard to tell, but judging by the previous panel, two. Which makes it five in total.
And, of course, by the next panel we see him, he'll likely have changed. Oh, well...
Wonderful strip, though, Amber. Full marks.
My gut feel is that he won't kill Regina because that would be awkward for the plot. Not only would it be awkward with Lorenda and Kria, it looks bad to kill a quivering mass of jelly. My guess is that Regina will have to pay an additional weregild in the form of service, a service that she will find considerably more painful than death.
Not sure how fitting it would be if he'd corner her, slam her into a wall, explain to her the things he could do to her, and then go "but I won't", with the principle of that now she knows fear.
Wow dan ACTUALLY acting like a cubi. That's new. I wonder what would be Aary's reaction if she were there.
Then, if she nearly defeated him last time, What would have stopped Dan back then? hmm
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: AndersW on February 15, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
This one. (http://www.justin.tv/balade)
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
That trope is badly overused, to the point that it has lost practically all of it's meaning. It has to do with the idea of someone who fights evil because the things that evil has done are WRONG, so it must be stopped. If, in the process of fighting that evil, the "good" person does exactly the same sort of things that the evil person did, isn't it then the job of someone else to say of the good person "no, this is wrong and he must be stopped"?
But it's been taken and abused, with characters saying "if you do X you will be just like me/him/her" even though X may have nothing in common with what the evil person did. If an villain plunders, rapes, and murders a whole town, the hero tracks the villain down, and just as he's about to kill the villian, the villain says "if you kill me, you'll be just like me." Za?? No. No, he will not. There are worlds of difference between the two. Yet a lot of fiction treats that as a valid argument, and teaches that as the moral lesson.
DAN SMASH! :mwaha
Hehe, angry and shirtless Dan. You just have to love it.
I have to wonder if he's "eating up" all the sudden fear from Regina...or am I thinking of another 'cubi clan?
*slinks back to the shadows*
Quote from: Nerikull on February 16, 2009, 07:40:34 AM
DAN SMASH! :mwaha
Hehe, angry and shirtless Dan. You just have to love it.
I have to wonder if he's "eating up" all the sudden fear from Regina...or am I thinking of another 'cubi clan?
It's interchangeable. Clans and individuals seem to have preferred emotions that they are better at absorbing, or that give them more of a kick, but those aren't the only emotions they can take.
Ohh,
this is even better than I imagined, when I visualized Dan going "full" Cubi.
Demons have the advantage in most Demon vs Cubi fights because the average Cubi is deficient in fighting skills. Dan's aventuring career covers that, though he may not get maximum use out of his new powers. But he
is more badass now than when he killed DP. Regina is so toast.
I expect Regina doesn't understand, even now, just how bad her situation is. Because I think she is too ignorant to understand the implications of dragon headed tendrils on a cubi, and of just how dangerous Dan is, just as an adventurer. She was still judging him by how he was six years ago.
Panels #3 and #4 constitute a Presence Attack, in Champions terms. Violent action, display of power, higher presence from cubi form, plus soliloquy. Oh yeah. I do like seeing Regina
scared, she needs to have fear put into her.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 07:42:54 AM
Quote from: Nerikull on February 16, 2009, 07:40:34 AM
DAN SMASH! :mwaha
Hehe, angry and shirtless Dan. You just have to love it.
I have to wonder if he's "eating up" all the sudden fear from Regina...or am I thinking of another 'cubi clan?
It's interchangeable. Clans and individuals seem to have preferred emotions that they are better at absorbing, or that give them more of a kick, but those aren't the only emotions they can take.
Dan's optimum is in combat, doing the right thing, for the good of many (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_528.php).
I don't suppose there's any chance of an Evil Death Dan wallpaper or something?
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 16, 2009, 07:48:15 AMDemons have the advantage in most Demon vs Cubi fights because the average Cubi is deficient in fighting skills. Dan's aventuring career covers that, though he may not get maximum use out of his new powers. But he is more badass now than when he killed DP. Regina is so toast.
You forget the skin hardening, claw sharpening and high endurance of demons. To which extent Regina is good at these, I don't know, tho
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 07:56:48 AM
I don't suppose there's any chance of an Evil Death Dan wallpaper or something?
Or maybe one of a terrified Regina? :P
Wow..just..wow. o.o Scary Dan is scary!
The rage..It's not a beserker rage..It's a 'I'm so pissed that my emotions have pretty much shut down and left me thinking crystal-clear..Run..now..' rage. Wheeee!
I request one of the more technically/graphically talented peeps turn panel 4 into a lolcat pic with "Scary Dan is Scary" as the text...
Quote from: rakyth on February 16, 2009, 01:00:52 AM
Tikki: it appears that your avatar was cropped from somewhere. May I see the original image?
Indeed it is, it's another character of mine as drawn by a friend. The original while not x-rated is also not appropriate for here unfortunately.
*ahem* For something more on-topic I've been thinking. Dan. Not only pissed off but also in good command of his powers... and drat, while distracted by House of the Dead Overkill, it seems I was beaten to this punch. :D
my new wallpaper (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/regscaredpaper.jpg)
Somehow that wallpaper, while simple, captures the feeling quite well. ;3
less is more, after all. :3
Good stuff Turnsky :3
Quote from: Ranx on February 16, 2009, 05:07:02 AM
I wonder how Kria will react to the situation. Will she allow Dan to keep going? Though I doubt Regina means much to her, she may feel somewhat responsible for her.
I bet you she thinks he's hot :P
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 08:25:36 AM
my new wallpaper (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/regscaredpaper.jpg)
<3 <3
I think I will use that too if you don't mind.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 16, 2009, 06:39:50 AM
Not sure how fitting it would be if he'd corner her, slam her into a wall, explain to her the things he could do to her, and then go "but I won't", with the principle of that now she knows fear.
Mmm, fear. omnomnomnomnomnom.
This can only end in rape.
I'm nthing the notion of "F***ING AWESOME!". Dan is kicking ass for once! :U
As for the Demon Vs. Cubi thing...
Assuming the average cubi vs the average demon comes out about even... I'd think Dan has a pretty good advantage. Even untrained, he still has a LOT more power in his bloodline than the average cubi I thought. He probably can use a few different tricks that haven't been taught to him, not on purpose but rather by instinct. Further, I'm sure Regina isn't as powerful as DP was...
Also, umm, Demons <3 power right? Kria is gonna have a heart attack if she see's him intimidating Regina, I'm waiting to see if she'll pounce him again.
I would like to note that the angry Pip/Dan's wings heads are adorable.
Been ages since I've commented here, but with this I simply have to... This is just totally Bad-Ass. Never thought I'd see Dan this pissed, and it's giving me shivers i gotta say.
That, and I love the contrast of her D: and the t-shirt's :D
That trope is badly overused, to the point that it has lost practically all of it's meaning. It has to do with the idea of someone who fights evil because the things that evil has done are WRONG, so it must be stopped. If, in the process of fighting that evil, the "good" person does exactly the same sort of things that the evil person did, isn't it then the job of someone else to say of the good person "no, this is wrong and he must be stopped"?
But it's been taken and abused, with characters saying "if you do X you will be just like me/him/her" even though X may have nothing in common with what the evil person did. If an villain plunders, rapes, and murders a whole town, the hero tracks the villain down, and just as he's about to kill the villian, the villain says "if you kill me, you'll be just like me." Za?? No. No, he will not. There are worlds of difference between the two. Yet a lot of fiction treats that as a valid argument, and teaches that as the moral lesson.
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the venture brothers did an interesting take on this one, you know in a scene in the last season where one of Dr Ventures sons found the Monarch raping ventures guard robot... It's complicated...
I just noticed something neat. How long has the i-mow been on Jyrra's invention list on the Demonology 101 page? What's an i-mow? Does it play music? Does it dance? o_O
Quote from: Dracora on February 16, 2009, 09:10:48 AM
Also, umm, Demons <3 power right? Kria is gonna have a heart attack if she see's him intimidating Regina, I'm waiting to see if she'll pounce him again.
Umm, from what I understand Demons also have a strong sense of kinship so I think you might be surprised at how she takes it. I rather doubt she'll be ecstatic, though given that they do value power I don't think she'll be too upset either. If Regina is defeated it's because she wasn't strong enough. Family or not.
I'm going to echo the chorus and say how totally badass Dan is right now. For me, the especially good touch is that little scratch on his left cheek, courtesy of one of the glasses I suppose. Face wounds sting, but a cut that small probably isn't debilitating. It's enough to annoy and cause pain, but not enough to stop a trained fighter or probably even slow him down.
About thoughts of Kria intervening, to be honest, I don't think she will. She's a subscriber to the whole "Might makes Right" system too, and I can't honestly see her caring all that much what Dan does to Regina, unless she possesses deeper feelings than she has shown so far. If Dan beats her, so be it.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on February 16, 2009, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: Dracora on February 16, 2009, 09:10:48 AM
Also, umm, Demons <3 power right? Kria is gonna have a heart attack if she see's him intimidating Regina, I'm waiting to see if she'll pounce him again.
Umm, from what I understand Demons also have a strong sense of kinship so I think you might be surprised at how she takes it. I rather doubt she'll be ecstatic, though given that they do value power I don't think she'll be too upset either. If Regina is defeated it's because she wasn't strong enough. Family or not.
Hehe, the way I see it, intimidation is ok, so long as he doesn't attack her. That and pouncing may be her method of intervention. ^_^
Quote from: Dracora on February 16, 2009, 09:20:53 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on February 16, 2009, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: Dracora on February 16, 2009, 09:10:48 AM
Also, umm, Demons <3 power right? Kria is gonna have a heart attack if she see's him intimidating Regina, I'm waiting to see if she'll pounce him again.
Umm, from what I understand Demons also have a strong sense of kinship so I think you might be surprised at how she takes it. I rather doubt she'll be ecstatic, though given that they do value power I don't think she'll be too upset either. If Regina is defeated it's because she wasn't strong enough. Family or not.
Hehe, the way I see it, intimidation is ok, so long as he doesn't attack her. That and pouncing may be her method of intervention. ^_^
now imagine what'll occur if Lorenda pops up
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 09:40:23 AM
now imagine what'll occur if Lorenda pops up
Tricky one. Dan's bleeding, and I think she probably knows Dan well enough (if only through Jyrras) to realise that he's not a psychopath. i.e. he's been provoked. (Also, she knows what Regina is like)
...nudge, nudge, nudge. The abyss keeps staring back into you. Inevitable, inevitable.
I find it odd that Dan actully has his headwings out and is useing his wing-tentcles to attack. For someone trying not to be a cubi he sure is acting like one here. :erk
Then again, he could be useing it to his advantage and useing the old scare tactic. I dunno. It's still awsome :boogie
Can't wait to see what happens next :eager
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 16, 2009, 09:57:51 AM
I find it odd that Dan actully has his headwings out and is useing his wing-tentcles to attack. For someone trying not to be a cubi he sure is acting like one here. :erk
It might not be entirely voluntary. Either that or he's been secretly practising :P
**EDIT**
Actually, what Aary did with the Godzilla thing might be enough for him to get basic voluntary control.
Dan looks good badass.....
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
It might not be entirely voluntary. Either that or he's been secretly practising :P
**EDIT**
Actually, what Aary did with the Godzilla thing might be enough for him to get basic voluntary control.
Heh. I was going to say, "This is so unorthodox." ;-]
Regina is showing her inexperience here -- her new plan can definitely be improved. Her best plan would be to piddle self *while* running.
I think Kria will only get involved if there is a threat of significant collateral damage to her home -- and then it will be more of a "Kids! Kids!! Take it outside!!!" sort of intervention.
as requested... :3
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn266/myxinidae/silly%20stuff/scarydan.jpg)
Anyone who's seen "Event Horizon", try reading Dan's lines in the voice Sam Neill delivers the "Where we're going..." line. Satisfaction guaranteed.
This all goes back to everything I've said. Dan owned DP (and given an unseen lifespan of an adventurer, many many more, but DP stands as arch-nemesis atm) when he was little more than seasoned adventurer being. Add SUPAH CUBI POWAHS(tm) into that mix and we have one capable of tearing up so much more face. Hence, Dan is a Keanu Reeves. Unless someone had the foresight to counter most of Dan's abilities and skills and his OVERWHELMING TENACITY, the battle would most definitely be an epic struggle.
In regards to the choice of using piddle instead of piss...thats pretty much what it is: a choice. As shown before, I have used to the word piss before...so it would go to reason that my choice was not because I felt the need to censor, but because I felt it was better fitting for the character's personality. While I fail many times, I try to give different characters different speech mannerisms from time to time. As some peeps pointed out, Regina is in some ways a bit childish so it seemed more in character for her to use the word piddle than piss.
That and piddle is a hilarious word to say to me. Piddle piddle piddle. :U
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 16, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
In regards to the choice of using piddle instead of piss...thats pretty much what it is: a choice. As shown before, I have used to the word piss before...so it would go to reason that my choice was not because I felt the need to censor, but because I felt it was better fitting for the character's personality. While I fail many times, I try to give different characters different speech mannerisms from time to time. As some peeps pointed out, Regina is in some ways a bit childish so it seemed more in character for her to use the word piddle than piss.
That and piddle is a hilarious word to say to me. Piddle piddle piddle. :U
A justified Rule of Funny, in other words? Works for me!
Heh. Funny. When things get serious, you realize how mature and in-control Dan can be: he drops the immature and silly act and becomes a very serious person (I'm thinking of his fights with Aliph and The Talk with Jyrras, but there's also this moment). But Regina just reveals how immature and childish she is, and it really highlights Dan's own... crud, I can't think of the right word. Skills? Growth? Dangit, this'll come to me later and annoy me to no end.
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Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
It might not be entirely voluntary. Either that or he's been secretly practising :P
**EDIT**
Actually, what Aary did with the Godzilla thing might be enough for him to get basic voluntary control.
Heh. I was going to say, "This is so unorthodox." ;-]
Not to mention he's been taught how to hide them. And he can make them go pacman! Wokka wokka!
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 16, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
Not to mention he's been taught how to hide them. And he can make them go pacman! Wokka wokka!
That was the headwings - the tentacles are probably more complex.
Rofl I just love her expression at the end there :boogie
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 16, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
Not to mention he's been taught how to hide them. And he can make them go pacman! Wokka wokka!
That was the headwings - the tentacles are probably more complex.
Wing tentacles work on the subconscious level.
There is a lot of things you should take into consideration while dealing with Dan. Off the bat he has impressive hand to hand and sword combat skills, he does not like to use magic but goes up against magic users and and came out on top in the past.
This leads me to believe that Dan has an impressive level of will and determination, learning to manipulate his wing tentacles by instinct is in all likely hood not a very difficult task for him.
...Lets not forget that the one warrior who Plays the fool voluntary is not the one to be messed with.
Dan loves to have fun and lives each day as if it might be his last, but if you underestimate him you are in for a world of hurt.
I don't think Dan will kill Regina but instead scare her and beat the living day lights out of her.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 16, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
In regards to the choice of using piddle instead of piss...thats pretty much what it is: a choice. As shown before, I have used to the word piss before...so it would go to reason that my choice was not because I felt the need to censor, but because I felt it was better fitting for the character's personality. While I fail many times, I try to give different characters different speech mannerisms from time to time. As some peeps pointed out, Regina is in some ways a bit childish so it seemed more in character for her to use the word piddle than piss.
That and piddle is a hilarious word to say to me. Piddle piddle piddle. :U
Amber you succeed with your choice in what words to use. The use of piddle over piss showed a lot in Regina's mind set and level of maturity.
This is an uneven fight of mind sets as a 20+ year old (Dan) is facing a -12 year old (Regina).
Somehow Dan's personality trait will eventually embrace his cubi heritage, it will take time as he learns the advantages of being a cubi. I also predict that he will start to relearn magic and become proficient in it but that will take time as well [with his level of stubbornness I say ~20 years].
Dan is in his mindset a warrior. Warriors tend to exploit any and every advantage they can find in combat. With the addition of his cubi abilities Dan will gain a respect for them and embrace them, kinda like how he is doing right now.
Badass Dan is seriously badass, dude he's shot up my favourite character list (Which ironically was msotly female) with this one :O
And God can you imagine Aary? She'd be squealing like a fangirl right now. Sure it's a demon and not a being BUT IT'S PROGRESS.
Two things came to my mind today:
1) Another day, another word learned. "Piddle" (I had to look it up)
2) Does Regina have a tongue piercing? (last panel)
Dan apparently cannot even leave the room without getting into trouble. Seems like he is the trouble here, though.
Quote from: Jairus on February 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: AndersW on February 15, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I have to ask, what is the webcast game thing that Amber mentioned in her rant.
And my response to the comic. :U :erk :boogie :eager
This one. (http://www.justin.tv/balade)
And I never understood that "if you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Dan is fully justified in killing Regina for murdering innocent beings and planning to kill more, whereas Dan only kills when he has to. And write now, I can't think very clearly for some reason, so I'll have to come back to this in a bit.
1. What does that video have to do with anything? When I looked last night it looked like some kind of virtual photo shoot, not any kind of game I've ever heard of.
2. Some kind of revenge or punishment for a killing spree doesn't itself necessarily have to take the form of killing. Other forms could be instilling fear (accomplished, piddle commencing), causing pain, imprisonment, servitude (currently serving Kria)...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 04:53:12 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 04:48:11 AM
4 - He's carving into a stone column with a talon.
Is he going to pay for fixing that?
As long as it doesn't do
structural damage, Kria might just think it adds character to the decor.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 16, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
In regards to the choice of using piddle instead of piss...thats pretty much what it is: a choice. As shown before, I have used to the word piss before...
As some peeps pointed out, Regina is in some ways a bit childish so it seemed more in character for her to use the word piddle than piss.
That and piddle is a hilarious word to say to me. Piddle piddle piddle. :U
We always used "piddle" when talking about puppies, so that goes along with the immature idea, lacking in self control when scared/startled/excited.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 16, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
Not to mention he's been taught how to hide them. And he can make them go pacman! Wokka wokka!
That was the headwings - the tentacles are probably more complex.
It's the same thing, part of his anatomy. The complex part is that there's more of them to shape and control.
One thing I've been wondering, Since the tentacle heads appear to have eyes, is he consciously aware of any sight through them (yet)? He must have at least some subconscious level of vision awareness through them since they were helping to find coffee filters (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_378.php) at one point.
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
Wing tentacles work on the subconscious level.
Almost. They do initially, but they can also be driven consciously. If you create more than about 4, you have to control them consciously and it takes more effort and concentration the more you create.
The wing-tentacles stroking Matilda, or fetching the filters were unconscious. His summoning them and turning them into shadow-puppets was voluntary. The question is, are the wing tentacles we're seeing in this strip summoned and controlled voluntarily? I suspect so, given Dan's "Among other things." line.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 16, 2009, 01:43:42 PM
One thing I've been wondering, Since the tentacle heads appear to have eyes, is he consciously aware of any sight through them (yet)? He must have at least some subconscious level of vision awareness through them since they were helping to find coffee filters (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_378.php) at one point.
I don't know. Amber has said that they can see, and that Dan will be able to see through them (and that one of his problems was that he's essentially grown 8 more eyes, which is screwing his brain over). I'm not sure he's reached that level of expertise yet, though.
I always considered the four a kind of familiar. =) They're cute, cuddly, help in their own special ways and are perfectly willing to fight.
Remember when they were smoking in Wildy's story? That was fun. ^_^
Edit: @Dard: Well, one shot in her mouth available is #968 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_968.php), there definitely seems to be something there. Not sure if it's just her teeth pointing up though.
I loved the 'piddle' choice, still makes me giggle thinking about Regina thinking that. I think 'piss' wouldn't have as much as an effect. On me, maybe, I'm 5 inside. :U
I have an interesting idea of how the next few panels could go...though I don't think Amber is going to go this way.
*Kira enters room*
Kira: Dan, whatever it is my Second-Niece did, I'm sure we can just talk it over. (true, may be extremely out of character for her, but it's a good set up for the next part)
Dan: *still angry as hell* Your what?
*Mental diagram in Dan's mind*
Regina = evil...Regina related to Kira
Lorenda related to Kria...Lorenda = Demon?
Lorenda = friend...Friend who was demon betrayed and hurt my friends
Potential repeat of history = more anger
Or something to that extent.
Edit: Doh, forgot that Dan already knows Kira is a demon.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 07:56:48 AM
I don't suppose there's any chance of an Evil Death Dan wallpaper or something?
I second this! It would make a great wallpaper!
Looks like Dan took a level in badass there.
I think we'll see some awesome coming up, I don't like to speculate, so I won't assume anything. After all, I don't know what happened with these two before.
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on February 16, 2009, 03:38:35 PM
Looks like Dan took a level in badass there.
I think we'll see some awesome coming up, I don't like to speculate, so I won't assume anything. After all, I don't know what happened with these two before.
Offhand, I'd say we have a general idea. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) Whatever happened beyond the basics, we know it's bad enough that Dan is feeling murderous towards her and currently has no second thoughts about it. So, probably not much lovey-dovey between them.
Regina? I'd like to introduce you to Consequences. Consequences, Regina. Regina, Consequences. I'm sure the two of you will get on splendidly.
Quote from: tikitori on February 16, 2009, 02:06:12 PM
I loved the 'piddle' choice, still makes me giggle thinking about Regina thinking that. I think 'piss' wouldn't have as much as an effect. On me, maybe, I'm 5 inside. :U
Well, then I am too, then. :) I really don't think "piss self" would even fit with her final facial expression.
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on February 16, 2009, 03:38:35 PM
Looks like Dan took a level in badass there.
Yeah, and as others have pointed out, Dan was already pretty badass, despite his goofy demeanor.
So it's more like "Serious badass has taken several additional levels of badass"
Quote from: Dard on February 16, 2009, 01:40:20 PM
2) Does Regina have a tongue piercing? (last panel)
If not, I'm sure Dan will be happy to arrange it.
Quote from: Dard on February 16, 2009, 01:40:20 PM
2) Does Regina have a tongue piercing? (last panel)
I noticed that, too; but going back through this arc, and the wallpaper war, I didn't see anything. *shrug*
There are a few other shots of Regina with her mouth open in the kitchen, and no evidence of a piercing. Best shot I could find. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_968.php)
Edit. Something occured to me while I was digging. Has anyone else noticed that the color of the fur on patches of Regina's face seem to change color from white to off white to a faint pink, or is that just me?
I know everyone's said it but I have to say it too. Dan looks so freakin' awesome in the fourth panel.
In the absence of a high-res version, I've done my best to clean it up:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/dmfa/Vol973_x2.png
http://www.project-future.org/stuff/things/Evil_Death_Dan_4x.png (1.1MB)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: Dard on February 16, 2009, 01:40:20 PM
2) Does Regina have a tongue piercing? (last panel)
If not, I'm sure Dan will be happy to arrange it.
Along with several-other-parts-of-her-body piercings, if he can just remember what Aaryanna said about sharp pointy tentacles... although given what he's doing to that pillar, he's figuring it out quickly.
Hmm... I don't think anyone's said anything about this yet. Has it been generally assumed Regina's Dan/Wildy/a-dozen-redshirt-Beings incident is the "last straw" that got her packed off to stay with Kria?
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
There are a few other shots of Regina with her mouth open in the kitchen, and no evidence of a piercing. Best shot I could find. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_968.php)
Edit. Something occured to me while I was digging. Has anyone else noticed that the color of the fur on patches of Regina's face seem to change color from white to off white to a faint pink, or is that just me?
1: It could simply be that what we are seeing, is the tongue, itself; that what we're mistaking for the tongue could simply be the inside of her mouth.
2: I noticed that, too. I thought it was just my monitor. o.o
Yeah, that's one cool update right there!
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 08:25:36 AM
my new wallpaper (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/regscaredpaper.jpg)
Needs a little "Meep."... :3
Kria will likely interfere - if she's nearby. Remember she's (kinda) youngster-sitting Regina.
Anyway. I think once Dan has Regina cornered and fearing him, something/-one will distract him for a sec and he'll realize just what he's doing. That ought to snap him out of his rage.
Maybe Regina will even learn something from the encounter. But I wouldn't bet on it. :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 04:58:01 PM
In the absence of a high-res version, I've done my best to clean it up:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/dmfa/Vol973_x2.png
http://www.project-future.org/stuff/things/Evil_Death_Dan_4x.png (1.1MB)
Peek-a-boo! >:3
You know, as much as I don't approve of that purple-eyed demon- Regina actually almost looks cute in the first panel of the second row, with that doomed look to her face!
Okay, let's see... Dan is 25, Regina is 23. Regina is rather childish, and she seems physically mature, so perhaps 17 isn't that weird for that flashback far ago. But when I read her saying Danny back then, now "last time we fought" and the underscript about adventuring school, I wonder: Was the flashback and that fight 6 years ago part of the same event, or did he run into her for some reason later on and tried to fight her?
It occurs to me that running with one bony wing and one not-bony wing is going to do odd things to your balance, and to your maximum speed - you can't, for example, flick out your wings to assist you round a corner.
Well, not a left hander, anyway, in Regina's case...
Of course, it's now a bit moot.
In other thoughts, I wonder if Dan went to Adventuring School before or after he tangled with Regina and she "pulped him"...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 16, 2009, 05:46:24 PMIn other thoughts, I wonder if Dan went to Adventuring School before or after he tangled with Regina and she "pulped him"...
I think he went to school after his encounter with Regina. She seems to know Edward, and Dan started adventuring after his disappearance.
Quote from: WhiteFire on February 16, 2009, 04:06:30 AM
Regina better hope Kria catches up quickly... or she is in a world of trouble. I think she failed her moral check. :P
Presumably Kria will have SOMETHING to say about Regina being killed in her home... of course, knowing her, it might be "Why, Dan, you are so sexy when you are mad."
Think we know now why Kria said "Ackward! And I think I like it." It wasn't about DP, it was all about Regina. She knew this would happen. Chances are, Kria's using this as a wake-up call for Regina, which means we can expect her to interfere only when Dan goes too far. But until that happens, I sort of expect Kria to just enjoy the spectacle with popcorn.
I just realized something....
Twelve more comics and this chapter will tie with Chapter 18 for the longest DMFA chapter ever!
Thirteen more and it'll beat out Chapter 18!
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 09:40:23 AM
now imagine what'll occur if Lorenda pops up
Or if Lorenda becomes an victim. Accidents happen.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 15, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Killing is too addicting, regardless of who your victim is--once you've crossed the line and taken another life, it becomes like a drug, and you have to do it again.
And again.
And again.
And eventually you'll come to lower your standards for who can die and who must live, just so that you can have prey....
O_o
It never ceases to amaze me how much this sort of thinking propagates among the sheeple. If you're talking from personal experience, you're a homocidal maniac and I'm pleased to inform you that not everyone who has ever taken a life has reacted to it this way. If you're talking from what you know about a friend...Keep an eye on that friend.
People react to it differently. Most of the people I know aren't exactly happy about it having happened, but in a 'them or you' situation, well, they are happy to be alive and back with their families, and they did what they were trained to do.
Stereotyping all people who have killed as serial killing maniacs is somewhat unfortunate. No matter what nation you live in, odds are that some of the protection, rights and freedoms you enjoy owe their existence to 'killers'.
It isn't a drug.
It isn't addicting.
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
I don't think Dan will kill Regina but instead scare her and beat the living day lights out of her.
Agreed. I think he's going to give Regina payback with a healthy dose of interest for the harm she did to Dan years back, but draw the line at killing her (or maybe Kria or Lorenda will intervene.) The conversation from comics 935 and 936 are probably going to become very relevant very soon.
Let's try some possible scenarios made from whole cloth (with probable plot holes that make it look like swiss cheese), run them up the flag pole, and see who shoots the most holes.
Regina feels that it is unfair for adventurers to go after demons just because they kill beings. She hears about Daniel Ti'Fiona, the son of an adventurer and a succubus, and decides that to do something to punish adventurers. (Dan may be just starting studies for being an adventurer at this time.) She waits until Edward and Destania are both away from the inn. She then befriends Dan, claiming such lines as the following: "Hey, your father married a creature. We aren't all bad."
She uses Dan to get her past magical defenses set up by Destania to defend Lost Lake and then begins wholesale slaughter. Dan, Wildy, and perhaps some others, attempt to stop Regina. However, given their inexperience they are unable to stop Regina's demonic power. Just as Regina goes into the evil villain monologue before killing Dan and Wildy, Destania shows up in full terror generating form. (Perhaps Regina did piddle herself at this time, and Dan's appearance and demeanor is reminding Regina of Destania.)
Now here I move from whole cloth to the The Emperor's New Clothes in constructing possible words for Destania. "You say that you can do whatever you want. Then perhaps the same is true for me. If I were you, I wouldn't want to know what I want to do with you. I don't want to start a fight with the city of Zinvth or the Demons. It's bad for business. However, if any of my family ever set eyes on you again, you will learn what my worst is like."
(Look somebody had to save Dan and Wildy. Destania would have been in the right place at the right time. Destania would hava also been perfectly capable of stripping Regina's wing to the bone.)
****
Remember that Kria does have one bargaining chip to use with Dan to save Regina's life. She can offer to cremate Aliph's body herself if Dan spares Regina. (Regina doesn't know that it was going to be destroyed anyway.) Just imagine how Regina will feel, believing that her survival was purchased at the cost of her uncle's existence.
Quote from: Batratblue on February 16, 2009, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 15, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Killing is too addicting, regardless of who your victim is--once you've crossed the line and taken another life, it becomes like a drug, and you have to do it again.
And again.
And again.
And eventually you'll come to lower your standards for who can die and who must live, just so that you can have prey....
O_o
It never ceases to amaze me how much this sort of thinking propagates among the sheeple. If you're talking from personal experience, you're a homocidal maniac and I'm pleased to inform you that not everyone who has ever taken a life has reacted to it this way. If you're talking from what you know about a friend...Keep an eye on that friend.
People react to it differently. Most of the people I know aren't exactly happy about it having happened, but in a 'them or you' situation, well, they are happy to be alive and back with their families, and they did what they were trained to do.
Stereotyping all people who have killed as serial killing maniacs is somewhat unfortunate. No matter what nation you live in, odds are that some of the protection, rights and freedoms you enjoy owe their existence to 'killers'.
It isn't a drug.
It isn't addicting.
:giggle
Relax, I'm not talking from personal experience at all--neither myself nor anyone I know. I was merely attempting to explain that trope for someone who had never understood it.
At any rate, I wasn't referring to "them or you" self-defense situations at all. There it might be understandable, but I was talking about more cold-blooded acts.
And no, I'm not stereotyping, and I'm well aware that I owe my standard of life to killers--soldiers are killers no matter how much you try to paint them as heroes--but I don't have to be happy about that, do I?
But how can you say it's not a drug and it's not addicting if you don't know firsthand?
Anyway, back on-topic....
Speaking of "piddle," I seem to recall that the reason Dan left is because HE was looking for a bathroom....
<.<
>.>
Hope this doesn't come back to bite him....
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2009, 06:27:01 PM
Regina feels that it is unfair for adventurers to go after demons just because they kill beings. She hears about Daniel Ti'Fiona, the son of an adventurer and a succubus, and decides that to do something to punish adventurers. (Dan may be just starting studies for being an adventurer at this time.) She waits until Edward and Destania are both away from the inn. She then befriends Dan, claiming such lines as the following: "Hey, your father married a creature. We aren't all bad."
Number of people who knew Destania was a succubus (that also knew where she was) probably stood at 3. Herself, Edward and Alexsi (though she may not have at this point).
Big hole. :3
Quote from: Tikki on February 16, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
Number of people who knew Destania was a succubus (that also knew where she was) probably stood at 3. Herself, Edward and Alexsi (though she may not have at this point).
It's probably more than that. Dee is sufficiently powerful that she doesn't
need to hide very much.
The folks at the inn who tried to kill her knew, and if 298 is accurate (and not a distortion, simplification or mis-remembering by Alexsi) she made it pretty obvious what she was during the marriage.
Just because she hides her 'Cubi ness, doesn't mean she's hiding herself off as a being. Dee could probably very easily pass for an Angel with her feather wings.
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2009, 06:27:01 PM
Let's try some possible scenarios made from whole cloth (with probable plot holes that make it look like swiss cheese), run them up the flag pole, and see who shoots the most holes.
Regina feels that it is unfair for adventurers to go after demons just because they kill beings. She hears about Daniel Ti'Fiona, the son of an adventurer and a succubus, and decides that to do something to punish adventurers. (Dan may be just starting studies for being an adventurer at this time.)
Even now, let alone back then, very few know that Dan is succubus Destania's son, most would only know that he's the son of adventurer Edward and Dee (or whatever name she has been going by for most of the last 25 years, I don't think we've heard yet) Ti'Fiona. Those that might previously know Destania had a child (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) probably don't know who the father and son are. (DP could have gotten something typically vague from Phoenix Oracles to know what little he does.)
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Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
There are a few other shots of Regina with her mouth open in the kitchen, and no evidence of a piercing. Best shot I could find. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_968.php)
Edit. Something occured to me while I was digging. Has anyone else noticed that the color of the fur on patches of Regina's face seem to change color from white to off white to a faint pink, or is that just me?
I noticed that too. It's the same with Lorenda. It seems when you look at her head-on, it's white, but a side view is pink. I'm not really sure about that, I think it may just be an artistic choice.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
Wing tentacles work on the subconscious level.
Almost. They do initially, but they can also be driven consciously. If you create more than about 4, you have to control them consciously and it takes more effort and concentration the more you create.
The wing-tentacles stroking Matilda, or fetching the filters were unconscious. His summoning them and turning them into shadow-puppets was voluntary. The question is, are the wing tentacles we're seeing in this strip summoned and controlled voluntarily? I suspect so, given Dan's "Among other things." line.
Wait wait wait what? When did Dan's wings stroke Matilda?
Also- to the people who think that Regina has a tongue-peircing, the little dot in the mouth is something Amber has done before. It's like the ... flap thing at the back of the throat. I remember Amber drew the dot as a heart once...
the point I'm trying to make is I'm pretty sure she doesn't.
Quote from: Lucheek on February 16, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 01:54:55 PM
The wing-tentacles stroking Matilda, or fetching the filters were unconscious.
Wait wait wait what? When did Dan's wings stroke Matilda?
Strip 411, and actually it's Matilda stroking them, but the main point still stands.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip.jpg
newer version i'm working on, if folks can do me a favor and collate all the comics that have amber's characters going "D8" in (abel's story included) i'd appreciate it, thanks.
I tried five times to log onto the forum, found out I wasn't registered here, registered, and now I'm posting and still I can't stop laughing from Regina's face in the fifth panel.
Heh, holy crap, wow...
...hehehehe...
Quote from: Lucheek on February 16, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
There are a few other shots of Regina with her mouth open in the kitchen, and no evidence of a piercing. Best shot I could find. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_968.php)
Edit. Something occurred to me while I was digging. Has anyone else noticed that the color of the fur on patches of Regina's face seem to change color from white to off white to a faint pink, or is that just me?
I noticed that too. It's the same with Lorenda. It seems when you look at her head-on, it's white, but a side view is pink. I'm not really sure about that, I think it may just be an artistic choice.
If you look at Dan (panel 4, or strip 970 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_970.php)) you'll notice areas of darker color fur represending shadowed regions. I think the off-white and pink are the same for Regina and Lorenda, lightly shadowed areas.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2009, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: Tikki on February 16, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
Number of people who knew Destania was a succubus (that also knew where she was) probably stood at 3. Herself, Edward and Alexsi (though she may not have at this point).
It's probably more than that. Dee is sufficiently powerful that she doesn't need to hide very much.
The folks at the inn who tried to kill her knew, and if 298 is accurate (and not a distortion, simplification or misremembering by Alexsi) she made it pretty obvious what she was during the marriage.
Destinia didn't change her name or hide her headwings until after Dan was born. No point in hiding her backwings, since Dan was born with them. So, It wasn't exactly a secret, but it wasn't advertised either. As the years went by, it was mostly not mentioned and semi-forgotten.
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on February 16, 2009, 06:21:37 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 16, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
I don't think Dan will kill Regina but instead scare her and beat the living day lights out of her.
Agreed. I think he's going to give Regina payback with a healthy dose of interest for the harm she did to Dan years back, but draw the line at killing her (or maybe Kria or Lorenda will intervene.) The conversation from comics 935 and 936 are probably going to become very relevant very soon.
Yes, Fi could stop while trying to cheerlead for him, Kria could invoke the rules of hospitality or the negotiation for not bringing DP back, Lorenda because Regina is family (though I suspect Lorenda's mouth would be dry). We've
never seen Dan like this before, not even when he was fighting DP.
Given that Regina is a psycho killer, the only way Dan can walk away and leave her not sliced lunchmeat, is to strike such fear into her that leaves her terrified of ever offending him again. She should be having nightmares about it for days afterward.
Observation: Despite thinking of him as a Being, Regina is afraid to face Dan
without a weapon. Despite her demonic power to make her skin "razor sharp and diamond hard". Of course, look at how much good that did Dark Pegasus, with 760 years of experience. But Regina's referring to Dan as "that adventurer's son" in her thoughts, makes me think she doesn't really know him by name, and so doesn't realize that he is, as Kria put it, "the fellow who has been killing Aliph".
Which means she's going only by her personal experience. Which must have not gone well for her. Instead of responding to his recognition with something like "Yeah, me. and if you weren't my aunt's guest we'd go another round right here.", she panicked, hit him with the serving tray (apparently as hard as she could) and
ran. Not follow up her attack, fled. Her expression in panel one is undeniably one of fear, supported by the fact that she's not willing to face him without a weapon. And she doesn't know he doesn't need one, she
thinks he's unarmed.
In panel two, she's trying to build up her courage, talk up her morale. "Should be easy. I nearly pulped him last time we fought." Yeah, exaggeration, I'm thinking. If Regina did so well against Dan last time
then why is Regina the one fleeing in fear. I don't doubt that Dan took some hits during that fight, but Regina is the one looking for a weapon before she faces her opponent, not Dan.
Then in panel three, Dan tears her build up to pieces. I noticed that his blows against the column knocked off chips from the stone. Dan obviously remembered about making wing tenderals hard and sharp, or he's doing it instinctively
And then Panel four. Dan doing the full Cubi, with the Voice of Doom added.
And he knows what you were thinking, Regina! As scared as Regina was before, this had to crank it up several levels. If this were a horror run, she'd be losing sanity points here. Come to think of it, this strip and the prior one
do have a bit of horror flavor. With the very enjoyable inversion that the "fleeing victim" is the psycho killer and the "hunting monster" is the good guy.
Then there is panel five. In a Warner Brothers cartoon, this is where Daffy Duck would plaintively say: "Mother."
Made of Win.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 07:39:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip.jpg
newer version i'm working on, if folks can do me a favor and collate all the comics that have amber's characters going "D8" in (abel's story included) i'd appreciate it, thanks.
Do you want general shock faces, or ones where they're chibi-ish like in the current comic?
Here's a thought,
Do you think Regina aided in the plot to kidnap Dans' father? (During the whole kill his friends thing)
That could be why he's so angry!
:kruger
Quote from: jimsan on February 16, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Here's a thought,
Do you think Regina aided in the plot to kidnap Dans' father? (During the whole kill his friends thing)
That could be why he's so angry!
:kruger
I doubt it.
This doubt isn't based on anything in the comic strip or by any statement of Amber's, but we do know that Dragons hold Edward and that Dee is in some super subtle, cloak and dagger campaign against them, and that the Dragons are taking similar measures against her (and possibly all of the Cyra clan). Whoever the ultimate culprit is, they seem ruthless, professional, subtle, and intelligent. I can't see them using a loose cannon like Regina for anything more than a tool of convienence, to possibly make a distraction or something.
Quote from: Marmonstein on February 16, 2009, 10:10:34 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 07:39:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip.jpg
newer version i'm working on, if folks can do me a favor and collate all the comics that have amber's characters going "D8" in (abel's story included) i'd appreciate it, thanks.
Do you want general shock faces, or ones where they're chibi-ish like in the current comic?
Chibi-ish fits the theme, so yes =3
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: jimsan on February 16, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Here's a thought,
Do you think Regina aided in the plot to kidnap Dans' father? (During the whole kill his friends thing)
That could be why he's so angry!
:kruger
I doubt it.
This doubt isn't based on anything in the comic strip or by any statement of Amber's, but we do know that Dragons hold Edward and that Dee is in some super subtle, cloak and dagger campaign against them, and that the Dragons are taking similar measures against her (and possibly all of the Cyra clan). Whoever the ultimate culprit is, they seem ruthless, professional, subtle, and intelligent. I can't see them using a loose cannon like Regina for anything more than a tool of convienence, to possibly make a distraction or something.
That's pretty much my thinking (they used her as a distraction). It just may be Regina's face is one of the few Dan can associate to the incident.
Then again the timing feels a little off, what with adventurer school, but it;s the best I can come up with.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 07:07:59 PM
Just because she hides her 'Cubi ness, doesn't mean she's hiding herself off as a being. Dee could probably very easily pass for an Angel with her feather wings.
my understanding is that she passes herself off as a man.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 16, 2009, 07:39:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip.jpg
newer version i'm working on, if folks can do me a favor and collate all the comics that have amber's characters going "D8" in (abel's story included) i'd appreciate it, thanks.
normal921 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_921.php)
802 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_802.php)
797 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_797.php)
745 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_745.php)
744 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_744.php)
674 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_674.php)
659 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_659.php)
651 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_651.php)
632 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_632.php)
chibi907 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php)
905 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_905.php)
836 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_836.php)
789 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_789.php)
788 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_788.php)
730 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_730.php)
688 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_688.php)
643 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_643.php)
588 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_588.php)
546 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_546.php)
There ya go. from present back to 546, there's the best D8 faces.
I went through most of the archive, post the 1 year hiatus and plus Abel Story. Some were iffy, but I think they're all mostly chibi-ish.
907 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php) 791 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_791.php) 789 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_789.php) 788 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_788.php) 730 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_730.php) 691 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_691.php) 654 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_654.php) 643 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_643.php) 512 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_512.php) 452 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_452.php) 398 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_398.php) 351 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_351.php) 321 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_321.php) 293 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php) 228 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_228.php) 203 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_203.php) 166 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_166.php) 144 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_144.php) 141 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_141.php) 123 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_123.php)
Abel 25 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_25.php) Abel 78 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_78.php)
A couple are small, but I threw 'em in anyway in case you wanted them
Quote from: jimsan on February 16, 2009, 11:15:22 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: jimsan on February 16, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Here's a thought,
Do you think Regina aided in the plot to kidnap Dans' father? (During the whole kill his friends thing)
That could be why he's so angry!
:kruger
I doubt it.
This doubt isn't based on anything in the comic strip or by any statement of Amber's, but we do know that Dragons hold Edward and that Dee is in some super subtle, cloak and dagger campaign against them, and that the Dragons are taking similar measures against her (and possibly all of the Cyra clan). Whoever the ultimate culprit is, they seem ruthless, professional, subtle, and intelligent. I can't see them using a loose cannon like Regina for anything more than a tool of convenience, to possibly make a distraction or something.
That's pretty much my thinking (they used her as a distraction). It just may be Regina's face is one of the few Dan can associate to the incident.
Then again the timing feels a little off, what with adventurer school, but it;s the best I can come up with.
Fi understood Dan's first encounter with Dark Pegasus to be his very first adventure, and Dan didn't correct it. Dan is 25, less 6 years is 19, which I'd think would be at least a year out of adventurer's school. And from Biggs's comments (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_725.php), the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
I can see, towards the end of that "incident" with Regina, Dan getting all ferocious and focused, and cold fury, and turning the tide against Regina so badly that she fled the field. Which would account for her current fear of him.
One thing that could keep Regina from the ranks of the Undead (or at least in a single-digit number of pieces): She knows more about Dan's father than he does. She could offer to trade info for continued use of limbs.
Of course, we aren't up to 1000 comics yet, so there's no reason to rush into that story arc! :)
Quote from: Marmonstein on February 16, 2009, 11:54:07 PM
I went through most of the archive, post the 1 year hiatus and plus Abel Story. Some were iffy, but I think they're all mostly chibi-ish.
*snip*
A couple are small, but I threw 'em in anyway in case you wanted them
Gah, I missed a few D:
Oh, and you missed 544 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_544.php)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip-1.jpg
HA! HA!
Wiggly...
>.>
Oh, that's wonderful. Do you mind at all if I use it?
hey, i made it freely, go nuts.
...Do you mind if I edit that slightly so that my taskbar doesn't obscure all the characters?
Also, I wonder if this has any relevance to strip #637 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_637.php), as it certainly fits the first speech bubble there.
Quote from: Sukasa on February 17, 2009, 12:59:14 AM
...Do you mind if I edit that slightly so that my taskbar doesn't obscure all the characters?
Also, I wonder if this has any relevance to strip #637 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_637.php), as it certainly fits the first speech bubble there.
actually, i kinda did make it so the standard windows taskbar height only obscures the copyright schtuffs.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 12:19:41 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip-1.jpg
HA! HA!
Wiggly...
>.>
It could use one more Chibi-Dan, though. Remember the time Abel was putting a spell (of transformation) on him? :3
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 16, 2009, 09:19:42 PM
Destinia didn't change her name or hide her headwings until after Dan was born. No point in hiding her backwings, since Dan was born with them. So, It wasn't exactly a secret, but it wasn't advertised either. As the years went by, it was mostly not mentioned and semi-forgotten.
In the marriage scene, her headwings were out. Unless it was a very private ceremony, there would have been witnesses. Though yes, by 933 she has reverted to 'winged Being / Angel' mode.
QuoteAnd then Panel four. Dan doing the full Cubi, with the Voice of Doom added. And he knows what you were thinking, Regina! As scared as Regina was before, this had to crank it up several levels. If this were a horror run, she'd be losing sanity points here. Come to think of it, this strip and the prior one do have a bit of horror flavor. With the very enjoyable inversion that the "fleeing victim" is the psycho killer and the "hunting monster" is the good guy.
All he has to do now is say something about souls and we'll see if Demons can faint.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 04:07:21 AM
All he has to do now is say something about souls and we'll see if Demons can faint.
Well, Regina is very young for a Demon anyway, so we cannot use her as a model for all Demons. :B
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 16, 2009, 06:37:25 PM
But how can you say it's not a drug and it's not addicting if you don't know firsthand?
Anyway, back on-topic....
Speaking of "piddle," I seem to recall that the reason Dan left is because HE was looking for a bathroom....
<.<
>.>
Hope this doesn't come back to bite him....
*Sigh* I didn't particularly care to say that I did know firsthand.
re: Piddling
And now I can picture AngryDan lifting a finger and saying 'Hold that bladder. I'll be RIGHT back.'
(And just think! Not so very long ago we were at "No no. I should be able to go down a hallway without getting into trouble." >_>)
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 17, 2009, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 12:19:41 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip-1.jpg
HA! HA!
Wiggly...
>.>
It could use one more Chibi-Dan, though. Remember the time Abel was putting a spell (of transformation) on him? :3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip-2.jpg
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 05:23:13 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaperwip-2.jpg
Superb. :3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 17, 2009, 05:53:20 AM
Superb. :3
Needs some refactoring if you don't have Turnsky's monitor, though :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 05:55:08 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 17, 2009, 05:53:20 AM
Superb. :3
Needs some refactoring if you don't have Turnsky's monitor, though :P
will do once it's 'complete' to my standards, personally i'd be happy if i had higher res versions of those chibis, buuut considering that may never happen, i'll just figure out what to do afterwards, i must get back to by writing stuffs. >:3
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 06:04:01 AM
will do once it's 'complete' to my standards, personally i'd be happy if i had higher res versions of those chibis, buuut considering that may never happen, i'll just figure out what to do afterwards, i must get back to by writing stuffs. >:3
If you want me to try and enhance them, I'll see if I can do that tonight. My main beef with it was the 16:9 aspect ratio...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 06:13:02 AM
My main beef with it was the 16:9 aspect ratio...
i've already presumed that, i've just not really gotten around to making a 4:3 ratio just yet.
piker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaper1600.jpg
It ain't big enough for my monitor. 1920x1200, yo. ;-]
Although don't go out of your way - I'm happy with my current background, barring the size aspect...
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 07:04:34 AM
piker.
I haven't been called that for years...
Quotehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaper1600.jpg
Sweet. If you can provide a PNG of the characters, I'll see if I can expand them. I'd work from the JPEG, but then I'd have two generations of loss to repair...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 07:11:06 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 07:04:34 AM
piker.
I haven't been called that for years...
Quotehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8wallpaper1600.jpg
Sweet. If you can provide a PNG of the characters, I'll see if I can expand them. I'd work from the JPEG, but then I'd have two generations of loss to repair...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/D8piccehs.png
boom de ah dah~
truth be told, unless it's a vector, they're a pain to resize, and considering i don't wanna bother amber by expecting her to trawl through her archives (hell, even i wouldn't wanna do that. :U) one hasta make do with what's available. :3
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 07:17:19 AM
truth be told, unless it's a vector, they're a pain to resize, and considering i don't wanna bother amber by expecting her to trawl through her archives (hell, even i wouldn't wanna do that. :U) one hasta make do with what's available. :3
Cool, I'll see what I can do when I get home tonight.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 01:02:31 AM
Quote from: Sukasa on February 17, 2009, 12:59:14 AM
...Do you mind if I edit that slightly so that my taskbar doesn't obscure all the characters?
Also, I wonder if this has any relevance to strip #637 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_637.php), as it certainly fits the first speech bubble there.
actually, i kinda did make it so the standard windows taskbar height only obscures the copyright schtuffs.
Mine's a 1440x900px display with double-height taskbar :B
Most OS systems can resize images pretty well for desktop use. Couldn't you make one super-huge-res image in each aspect ratio? For example, a 2560x1600 image for widescreen, and a 1600x1200 image for standard? I grab 1920x1200 images for my 1680x1050 monitor all the time. Works like a charm.
1920x1080 for my desktop
I can understand why people make desktops to fit a specific resolution, the background does eat up a bit of the ram but making the largest resolution pic in jpg in the three primary aspect ratios would save some time (but cause problems for small resolution screens).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/darkflight_devil/example-1.png)
After and before editing the first of the D8 wallpapers- this is why I want to move the characters a bit.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on February 16, 2009, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 16, 2009, 07:07:59 PM
Just because she hides her 'Cubi ness, doesn't mean she's hiding herself off as a being. Dee could probably very easily pass for an Angel with her feather wings.
my understanding is that she passes herself off as a man.
You don't mean here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php) or here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_299.php), do you? Certainly not here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_703.php). This one (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_868.php)? Sure, but this is just a short term masquerade for Dan's benefit. They (we) were talking more about during the time between her marriage and her disappearance (I don't recall hearing how recent that was). So far, it seems only Biggs and Alexsi knows for sure where she is, though Dan and Wildy did see her (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_078.php) in Twink territory a while back too.
Anyway, getting back closer to the main topic:
Quote from: tikitori on February 16, 2009, 02:06:12 PM
I loved the 'piddle' choice, still makes me giggle thinking about Regina thinking that. I think 'piss' wouldn't have as much as an effect. On me, maybe, I'm 5 inside. :U
With presumably higher scent sensitivity than humans, beings (and maybe to a higher degree, creatures) might find a scent trail (piddle) easier to follow in this chase, so the first part of new plan has its flaw. :mowmeep
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Quote from: Madmann135 on February 17, 2009, 02:26:27 PM
1920x1080 for my desktop
I can understand why people make desktops to fit a specific resolution, the background does eat up a bit of the ram but making the largest resolution pic in jpg in the three primary aspect ratios would save some time (but cause problems for small resolution screens).
Well, RAM is dirt cheap these days. Compared to the gigs you can easily get it's not that bad. Let's say it eats an extra 50MB of RAM (It shouldn't, but let's say it does). You can get 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM for under $100. That's 40 times that 50MB. 3GB and 4GB isn't unheard of these days, either. I'm personally rocking a quad-core Q6600 with 3GB of RAM and an 8800GT GPU. I've been able to run anything that I've thrown at this system just fine, and the really crazy thing is that those specs aren't that high-end or expensive anymore! Kinda makes me sad, really. I paid a lot for this system when it WAS considered "high-end". :<
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
Well, RAM is dirt cheap these days. Compared to the gigs you can easily get it's not that bad. Let's say it eats an extra 50MB of RAM (It shouldn't, but let's say it does).
It'll be more like 20MB - 1920x1200 at 32bpp = 9.2MB. If you've got a double-buffered or composited desktop, it's going to be twice that or more. But I digress.
QuoteYou can get 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM for under $100. That's 40 times that 50MB. 3GB and 4GB isn't unheard of these days, either.
...though it won't actually work unless you're running Server 2003 (which has PAE support) or a 64-bit OS.
Anyway. I've tried my best:
http://tapewolf.wildernessguardians.com/stuff/D8_clean_x4.png
http://tapewolf.wildernessguardians.com/stuff/D8_clean_x2.png
...hopefully it will be use to someone. Unfortunately the system I use for colour enhancement throws a wobbly if you have an alpha channel so I flattened it to dark grey. I might be able to marry the alpha channel from the original image to the flattened version, but I'm not sure yet. Editing the alpha channel is still a bit of a dark art for me.
I would recommend x2 - the downscaling process increases apparent sharpness as a side-effect.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
You can get 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM for under $100. That's 40 times that 50MB. 3GB and 4GB isn't unheard of these days, either.
...though it won't actually work unless you're running Server 2003 (which has PAE support) or a 64-bit OS.
Linux (32 bit version) has PAE extensions available, but doesn't use or need them until you reach more than 4Gb. Anything less than that is fine, more than that is also ok, although PAE tends to run out of steam somewhere between 8 and 10Gb of RAM, unless you start playing with the boundaries between kernel and user space. Even then, it's a bit dodgy, and you'd be better off spending the money on a decent quad-core Opteron or something.
But I digress.
I know Regina deserves it but Darn you Amber you draw sad/frightened too well and I cant help but feel sorry for her now. :mowsad
Hope Dan spares her even though he has every right not to.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
Well, RAM is dirt cheap these days. Compared to the gigs you can easily get it's not that bad. Let's say it eats an extra 50MB of RAM (It shouldn't, but let's say it does).
It'll be more like 20MB - 1920x1200 at 32bpp = 9.2MB. If you've got a double-buffered or composited desktop, it's going to be twice that or more. But I digress.
QuoteYou can get 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM for under $100. That's 40 times that 50MB. 3GB and 4GB isn't unheard of these days, either.
...though it won't actually work unless you're running Server 2003 (which has PAE support) or a 64-bit OS.
Actually Windows can handle 3GB just fine, even at 32-bit. That's what I'm running!
The way Windows handles VM is... complicated. Most people misunderstand it. Windows can usually handle up to 4GB in 32-bit mode just fine. The benefits of this decrease after 2GB, but they are still there!
(Unless otherwise noted I'm talking 32-bit all throughout here.) Any single process can grab up to 2GB of RAM for itself. So, what's the benefit of more than 2GB? The OS isn't counted in that 2GB. Nor is any other process!
So, even if a single program grabs the full 2GB, there is still 2GB left for the OS and all the other processes.
What about virtual memory? This is complex. Many think "virtual memory" is space on the hard disk used as RAM when the system runs out of normal RAM, and MS does use that term for it, but there's another meaning.
When the OS says "get me the data at address X", it's following a VIRTUAL model of memory. X is *not* the physical address of the memory! This is to enhance the computer's security. In reality, there's a bit of hardware on the motherboard that maps that address to the real physical address. The OS and the program never ever know where that memory is truly located. The motherboard deals with that.
In the virtual system, any memory address where the leading (most significant) bit is 1 is reserved for the OS itself. So, literally the high-numbered HALF of the virtual memory space is reserved for the OS. That's one-half of the 4GB space.
Each and every process gets it's OWN VM SPACE! That means there's a virtual memory block of 4GB for every process. The higher 2GB is the same across every process - that's the OS's memory. Non-OS processes can't touch it!
The lower 2GB is meant for the process, and each process gets it's own VIRTUAL 2GB of space no matter how much RAM you have!
Whether the VIRTUAL memory space in any given memory location of any given process is backed up by real-world RAM (or HDD space) is up to the OS and memory manager. Which means that if the OS is taking up 512MB of RAM, the other usable 3GB can be taken up fully by other programs (but in that instance there would need to be at least 2 total processes to eat up all that).
So, 4GB of RAM can indeed help. Vista's memory management techniques mean only about 3.5GB of that is usable, but that's still more than 3GB. (It needs memory addresses for other pieces of hardware and those take up room.) So let's say the OS takes up 512MB, and your background processes are taking up 256MB, and other 512MB or so for those extra hardware addresses and memory management things. (I'm over-estimating in places here.) That's 2.75GB left over out of 4. Any one process can use up to 2GB of that, and two processes together could use up that remaining 0.75GB. It can all be used!
So saying you can't use 3GB or 4GB of RAM without a 64-bit OS would be highly incorrect. Windows XP and Vista (32-bit) can most certainly handle it!
Side notes: I know all this seems crazy compared to what now seems to be "common knowledge", but the notion that 32-bit Windows can't use 4GB of memory at all or is "actually" limited to 2GB is just FUD. I learned all this from a solid source, too: My Computer Science Prof in my Operating Systems course!
My system:
Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
3GB DDR2-800 RAM
nVIDIA GeForce 8800GT
500GB HDD (primary), 300GB HDD
Blu-ray Optical drive (Blu-reading only, no burning. Can burn CDs and DVDs)
And now, back on topic. As funny as "Piddle Self. Run." is, I wonder... would that page work even better if it was just Regina going "D8" with no thought or speech bubbles at all? Hmmm....
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 05:35:08 PM
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5986/wallotext3lk0.png)
*Wall-o-Text copyright Amber Williams
And now, back on topic. As funny as "Piddle Self. Run." is, I wonder... would that page work even better if it was just Regina going "D8" with no thought or speech bubbles at all? Hmmm....
Well, without the thought bubbles, it wouldn't have quite as much meaning. It would just be Regina clearly scared out of her mind, rather than her scared and displaying her immaturity through word choice. There would also be no funny punchline to balance the mood of the page, not to mention Amber wouldn't have gotten to say "piddle" had she left that panel without dialogue.
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 05:35:08 PM
Actually Windows can handle 3GB just fine, even at 32-bit. That's what I'm running!
Ah. I was under the impression that it required PAE even to access the block being shadowed by the video card (which now seems to come with 512 or 1024MB). When I was dealing with virtual address space tech it was primarily to do with V86 mode, because DOS was still important and the limiting factor was 64MB. How NT 3.51 handled >2GB was irrelevant because no such systems existed...
Either way, I've personally switched to a 64 bit system except for W2K, which is only left around to run Oblivion and SONAR. I'm going to upgrade it later, and I'm hoping that having >4GB won't freak Windows too much.
QuoteAnd now, back on topic. As funny as "Piddle Self. Run." is, I wonder... would that page work even better if it was just Regina going "D8" with no thought or speech bubbles at all? Hmmm....
I'm just hoping that Dan gets to keep his moment of glory for a change. All too often something spoils it.
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 17, 2009, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 05:35:08 PM
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5986/wallotext3lk0.png)
*Wall-o-Text copyright Amber Williams
And now, back on topic. As funny as "Piddle Self. Run." is, I wonder... would that page work even better if it was just Regina going "D8" with no thought or speech bubbles at all? Hmmm....
Well, without the thought bubbles, it wouldn't have quite as much meaning. It would just be Regina clearly scared out of her mind, rather than her scared and displaying her immaturity through word choice. There would also be no funny punchline to balance the mood of the page, not to mention Amber wouldn't have gotten to say "piddle" had she left that panel without dialogue.
Well I did say it was complicated!
As for the comic bit, you are right about that. Sometimes silence can speak more than words, though. Whether it does now is what I'm wondering, and I'm still not sure.
QuoteQuoteAnd now, back on topic. As funny as "Piddle Self. Run." is, I wonder... would that page work even better if it was just Regina going "D8" with no thought or speech bubbles at all? Hmmm....
I'm just hoping that Dan gets to keep his moment of glory for a change. All too often something spoils it.
Amen to that.
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Well I did say it was complicated!
I found it relatively simple, actually. Maybe my standards of complexity are different... :-/
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on February 17, 2009, 02:26:27 PM
1920x1080 for my desktop
I can understand why people make desktops to fit a specific resolution, the background does eat up a bit of the ram but making the largest resolution pic in jpg in the three primary aspect ratios would save some time (but cause problems for small resolution screens).
Well, RAM is dirt cheap these days. Compared to the gigs you can easily get it's not that bad. Let's say it eats an extra 50MB of RAM (It shouldn't, but let's say it does). You can get 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM for under $100. That's 40 times that 50MB. 3GB and 4GB isn't unheard of these days, either. I'm personally rocking a quad-core Q6600 with 3GB of RAM and an 8800GT GPU. I've been able to run anything that I've thrown at this system just fine, and the really crazy thing is that those specs aren't that high-end or expensive anymore! Kinda makes me sad, really. I paid a lot for this system when it WAS considered "high-end". :<
DDR2 is not that expensive. My desktop is running on 4gigs DDR2 800 (want to get 8 gigs but can't justify the $50 for 2x2gb sticks), Q8200 @ 1500FSB 2.6ghz, Vista 64. Have yet to run out of Ram on any of my programs and I use programs that gobble up ram when active.
A 4gig stick of DDR2 ram at lowest I have seen was around 100 bucks.
Ok, I now have to change my desktop to the one you guys made, it rocks!
QuoteAnd from Biggs's comments, the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
Right, I knew that but forgot somehow. That does seem to punch a hole in that theory. Not to say it's impossible, just improbable now.
Looks like I'll have to wait for a flashback to find out how Edward ended up getting kidnapped... oh well.
Quote from: jimsan on February 17, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Ok, I now have to change my desktop to the one you guys made, it rocks!
QuoteAnd from Biggs's comments, the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
Right, I knew that but forgot somehow. That does seem to punch a hole in that theory. Not to say it's impossible, just improbable now.
Looks like I'll have to wait for a flashback to find out how Edward ended up getting kidnapped... oh well.
you forgot one dragon, however, but he's a nice guy. :3
Quote from: Turnsky on February 17, 2009, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: jimsan on February 17, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Ok, I now have to change my desktop to the one you guys made, it rocks!
QuoteAnd from Biggs's comments, the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
Right, I knew that but forgot somehow. That does seem to punch a hole in that theory. Not to say it's impossible, just improbable now.
Looks like I'll have to wait for a flashback to find out how Edward ended up getting kidnapped... oh well.
you forgot one dragon, however, but he's a nice guy. :3
Actually I remember another dragon somewhere back around Chapter 9 who Dan owed money to--I don't know if that's still considered canon or if, like Pyroduck, he's another exception to the rule of "dragons don't know Dan exists"....
I'm seeing a lot of discussion about virtual memory and feel like people are comparing apples and oranges, with a few cherries on the side. The memory management unit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management_unit) is what maps the virtual address to the real address, not the operating system. The 32 versus 64 bit operating system refers to the maximum size of an addressable range for a process, not the actual hardware limitations. I seem to recall systems with 32 bit operating systems that actually had 8 gigabytes or more of memory.
The hardware had three major specs, the maximum amount of real memory that could be addressed, the number of bits that could be transferred into and out of memory at a time, and the speed at which data could be transferred. There could be conflicts with other types of data transfer such as video memory and peripherals. (See Northbridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_(computing)) for some further discussion on a related topic.) There are a lot of design tradeoffs, and some designs handle larger amounts of memory much better than others. The best advice I received from a vendor was "Try it and see how it works".
The end result is that you could discuss this for hours and it really doesn't mean anything. Adding more and faster RAM will not necessarily help. Many designs just stink. Having a 64 bit operating system will not necessarily get you better performance with large amounts of memory.
***** *****
Getting back relatively close to topic.
Yes, Amber could have done it without words. However, she would have had to change the artwork to be more effective. For example, Regina could have been on the other side of a wall from Dan. Dan could have forced his tentacles through the wall to grab Regina, demolishing the wall in the process. Think of some of the battles between Spiderman and Dr. Octopus in the Spiderman movie a few years ago.
I like the way Amber did it. In the final analysis, it's Amber's world, and we're just here to adore it and sing her praises.
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Well I did say it was complicated!
I'm gonna be honest; I didn't read your lovely wall-o-text there. I instead used that time cropping out the wall-o-text image instead of just doing *snip* or something else along those lines.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 17, 2009, 09:43:38 PM
Actually I remember another dragon somewhere back around Chapter 9 who Dan owed money to--I don't know if that's still considered canon or if, like Pyroduck, he's another exception to the rule of "dragons don't know Dan exists"....
That dragon didn't seem all that bright, though. I doubt it remembered that Dan passed by 10 seconds after he left, much less long enough to tell other dragons.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 16, 2009, 11:56:52 PM
And from Biggs's comments (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_725.php), the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
They don't know Destania's incubus son exists, they (at least some) know adventurer Daniel Ti'Fiona exists. As an adventurer, I'm sure he hasn't been hiding his identity, more likely flaunting it (bar bragging). Pyroduck (probably knowing more than we think), the red dragon (Dan owes or owed $10, it was never shown if he paid, probably distracted by the conversation) that was guarding DP's lair, and at least one other I can't quite place at the moment. Oh, and did we decide that Shanna was a dragon or just some kind of mythos with a dragon-like form?
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 17, 2009, 09:43:38 PM
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Quote from: jimsan on February 17, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Ok, I now have to change my desktop to the one you guys made, it rocks!
QuoteAnd from Biggs's comments, the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
Right, I knew that but forgot somehow. That does seem to punch a hole in that theory. Not to say it's impossible, just improbable now.
Looks like I'll have to wait for a flashback to find out how Edward ended up getting kidnapped... oh well.
you forgot one dragon, however, but he's a nice guy. :3
Actually I remember another dragon somewhere back around Chapter 9 who Dan owed money to--I don't know if that's still considered canon or if, like Pyroduck, he's another exception to the rule of "dragons don't know Dan exists"....
I believe the key aspect is "Destinia's son". The dragon that Dan owed money to wasn't too bright, and wouldn't have connected the Daniel he knew to Edward and Destinia. He was too dumb to realize that he was supposed to keep Dan out, sheesh.
Pyroduck seems to be a reliable Secret Keeper (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SecretKeeper).
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 17, 2009, 10:23:46 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 16, 2009, 11:56:52 PM
And from Biggs's comments (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_725.php), the dragons don't even know Dan exists.
They don't know Destania's incubus son exists, they (at least some) know adventurer Daniel Ti'Fiona exists. As an adventurer, I'm sure he hasn't been hiding his identity, more likely flaunting it (bar bragging). Pyroduck (probably knowing more than we think), the red dragon (Dan owes or owed $10, it was never shown if he paid, probably distracted by the conversation) that was guarding DP's lair, and at least one other I can't quite place at the moment. Oh, and did we decide that Shanna was a dragon or just some kind of mythos with a dragon-like form?
I remember reading somewhere that Shanna was indeed a dragon. Of course, she also thought Dan was a girl at first, and was still calling him "Danna" at the end of the adventure.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 17, 2009, 11:35:50 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Shanna was indeed a dragon. Of course, she also thought Dan was a girl at first, and was still calling him "Danna" at the end of the adventure.
Actually there's no evidence of that. The only time Shanna refers to Dan in the third person, she uses
male pronouns. The closest she got was when she called Dan's robe his "secret dress."
It's only Graz and Kass who mistook him for a girl, and neither of them were dragons.
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 17, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
That dragon didn't seem all that bright, though. I doubt it remembered that Dan passed by 10 seconds after he left, much less long enough to tell other dragons.
He remembered Dan enough to know that he was owed $10.
I've always wondered if it's the entire Dragon race that's gunning for the Ti'Fiona's, or just a handful of them or a group of them that are fed up with Destania and the 'Cubi race and is trying to wipe them out. I mean, I can buy an entire race wanting to exterminate another (goodness knows Star Trek pulled that one a few times), and I know there's still tension between Dragons and Cubi, but I have to wonder if it's just currently an extremist group of fanatical Dragons trying to wipe out the Cubi, with the other Dragons either not stopping them (because they don't care or don't want to get their hands dirty) or simply being unaware of who's behind it.
Quote from: Jairus on February 17, 2009, 11:54:50 PM
I've always wondered if it's the entire Dragon race that's gunning for the Ti'Fiona's, or just a handful of them or a group of them that are fed up with Destania and the 'Cubi race and is trying to wipe them out. I mean, I can buy an entire race wanting to exterminate another (goodness knows Star Trek pulled that one a few times), and I know there's still tension between Dragons and Cubi, but I have to wonder if it's just currently an extremist group of fanatical Dragons trying to wipe out the Cubi, with the other Dragons either not stopping them (because they don't care or don't want to get their hands dirty) or simply being unaware of who's behind it.
Is it the cubi in general, or just the Cyra clan in particular? I've never been clear on that point....
I thought it was the latter, but Abel's treatment of Pyroduck would seem to suggest otherwise, unless that was simply because he knows Dan is Destania's son....
my guess Cyra has some relationship with the dragons in some fashion or rather, what exactly, i cannot say. It does lead to questions such as Dan's draconically inclined wingtip heads, for example.
Good/Bad? i cannot say
if it's the reason for Dee's current planning of genocide? i can't say either..
and what all this has to do with Danny boy, i dunno..
now that i've plausibly added more questions for your minds to chew over, i must be off. :mwaha
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 17, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Well I did say it was complicated!
I'm gonna be honest; I didn't read your lovely wall-o-text there. I instead used that time cropping out the wall-o-text image instead of just doing *snip* or something else along those lines.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 17, 2009, 09:43:38 PM
Actually I remember another dragon somewhere back around Chapter 9 who Dan owed money to--I don't know if that's still considered canon or if, like Pyroduck, he's another exception to the rule of "dragons don't know Dan exists"....
That dragon didn't seem all that bright, though. I doubt it remembered that Dan passed by 10 seconds after he left, much less long enough to tell other dragons.
The dragon could be smarter than you all think.
The bad thing about hiring mercs as employees is that you must pay them. The dragon could have asked for payment up front and went on his break as soon as Dan and company arrived. With payment in hand and on break the dragon's obligation to protect DP was moot.
Why does Regina remind me of Abel in issue 707 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_707.php)?
...but Regina did the complete 180 of what Abel did.
Maybe the dumb dragon doesn't know he's a child of Destania. Then again, he has Edward's last name, so I guess it's just a dragon who's not into the plan or hasn't paid attention to his last name. But yeah, the guy struck me as a Gryphon C kind of dragon.
Hm... Do they know Edward's last name or did they blindly kidnap him without figuring that one out?
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Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 17, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
That dragon didn't seem all that bright, though. I doubt it remembered that Dan passed by 10 seconds after he left, much less long enough to tell other dragons.
He remembered Dan enough to know that he was owed $10.
Ah, but that was a matter of the dragon's possessions, and dragons in almost every story I can think of tend to guard their hoards with every ounce of strength in their bodies.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 18, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
now that i've plausibly added more questions for your minds to chew over, i must be off. :mwaha
EVIL!
Quote from: Turnsky on February 18, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
my guess Cyra has some relationship with the dragons in some fashion or rather, what exactly, i cannot say. It does
Your questions caused me to do some research! I should be sleeping by now, dangit! Anyway, it appears the Cyra's clan and the dragons aren't getting along to well at the moment (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_728.php), as you can see in the last panel.
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 18, 2009, 02:46:32 AM
Your questions caused me to do some research! I should be sleeping by now, dangit! Anyway, it appears the Cyra's clan and the dragons aren't getting along to well at the moment (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_728.php), as you can see in the last panel.
but the hows and whys elude us still, i didn't mean 'relationship' in the "buddy buddy" sense, but rather their overall connection.. >:3
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 18, 2009, 02:46:32 AM
Anyway, it appears the Cyra's clan and the dragons aren't getting along to well at the moment (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_728.php), as you can see in the last panel.
And in the next page, we have Fa'lina's comment about "the kill zone that makes up Destania's family". Does this mean the feud involves just Destania, and the rest of the clan get roped in because of her? Or is Destania just the only one the Dragons know about?
Confused? Who, me? :erk
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 17, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Cvstos on February 17, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Well I did say it was complicated!
I'm gonna be honest; I didn't read your lovely wall-o-text there. I instead used that time cropping out the wall-o-text image instead of just doing *snip* or something else along those lines.
But I spent so much time explaining such an important part of modern OS design! ... On a forum for a furry webcomic. Yeah, I see your point. It was fun, though!
Amber needs to make a new side-series where all the DMFA characters fight each other. Have the characters fight other characters within their own power level. See who comes out on top. :D Or at least a chart showing who'd win over who. Or she can not and tease us by only hinting at that stuff. Dang, I said it, now she's going to use it. Or was that the plan all along?
Furious, shirtless cubi'd out Dan for the win! :)
I suspect Dan may pull off one or two stances in the next few comics that will be more awesome than his current pose. However, they won't seem as awesome because they will lack that nifty surprise factor.
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Dan Aaryanna would be proud! I'm not sure about you mom as you have yet to inflict pain to match the fear you've inspired in that poor undead demon girl.
Regina is not undead. She is a normal demon, who has chosen not to regenerate her wing.
now now, let the poor boy understand his mistake by re-reading her bio page (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/regina.php), then he shall be enlightened as to the truth behind Regina's wing of bones. >:3
This may go so far back that the comment is not necessarily canon, but "that cow is familiar..." in #76 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_076.php) could mean that Lorenda was present at the previous Regina incident... or (scanning back more before posting) more likely it might only be that he remembers her from the beach ice cream stand (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_037.php), making this post moot.
Wonder if Devon would save her. Sure he's an a :spidey :spidey hole, even again that he's undead, but he used to be an adventurer the same as Dan.
Plot twisty.
Quote from: DavidRokon on February 18, 2009, 12:49:41 PM
Wonder if Devon would save her. Sure he's an a :spidey :spidey hole, even again that he's undead, but he used to be an adventurer the same as Dan.
Plot twisty.
Except that Devin doesn't remember his (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/devin.php)past, only what he's been taught by Kria. So, while he may know he used to be an adventurer, that'd be like being amnesiac and reading a biography of your life: sure, you know all that happened to you, but you don't remember doing it. The instincts and reflexes and all of that stuff is just not there anymore, unless he's gone and taken classes or studied again. So, in short, Devin might end up saving Regina, but it's more likely that Kria or Dan himself will stop him from killing her.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 18, 2009, 12:24:30 PM
This may go so far back that the comment is not necessarily canon, but "that cow is familiar..." in #76 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_076.php) could mean that Lorenda was present at the previous Regina incident... or (scanning back more before posting) more likely it might only be that he remembers her from the beach ice cream stand (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_037.php), making this post moot.
I think it's just that they met at the ice cream stand. Hence the "The cow finally gets a name." comment under comic #76. :)
I believe that Devin's response might be similar to Fi's response to a possible fight between Dan and Abel. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_812.php)
By the way, I just noticed that the names Dan and Cain had 50 to 66 percent of their letters in common. Do you think that this could have some significance considering the story of Cain and Abel?
Amber seems to be like the Riddler: she has a compulsion to leave some clues (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_873.php), many of which may be misleading but are accurate in a twisted sort of way.
***** *****
To Tapewolf:
You know how it goes. Sometimes, you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.
Quote from: Naldru on February 18, 2009, 06:01:15 PM
By the way, I just noticed that the names Dan and Cain had 50 to 66 percent of their letters in common. Do you think that this could have some significance considering the story of Cain and Abel?
Dude,
I have the lock on nutty theories around here...
Hmmm. I wonder if we'll get a flashback or wall-of-text (patent pending) summary of what was originally going to be Regina's story. You know, the one that Abel usurped by winning the Wallpaper War.
Compared to how long Abe's Story has been, that's quite a time-saver! :mowwink
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 18, 2009, 07:20:37 PM
Hmmm. I wonder if we'll get a flashback or wall-of-text (patent pending) summary of what was originally going to be Regina's story. You know, the one that Abel usurped by winning the Wallpaper War.
Compared to how long Abe's Story has been, that's quite a time-saver! :mowwink
"Wall of text" would have to be a service mark at best, since the term is already in use in describing badly formatted prose (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wall+of+text) and comics (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WallOfText?from=Main.WallsOfText).
I wonder if Dan's remark in 301 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_301.php) "It's not like you are the first girl to try and slaughter me painfully..." is a reference to his first encounter with Regina?
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 18, 2009, 10:41:18 PM
I wonder if Dan's remark in 301 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_301.php) "It's not like you are the first girl to try and slaughter me painfully..." is a reference to his first encounter with Regina?
or more likely it's just Dan's way with women, don't forget wildy nearly does the same on a regular basis, same with his sister, too.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 18, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
or more likely it's just Dan's way with women, don't forget wildy nearly does the same on a regular basis, same with his sister, too.
A brawl is much different than a lethal fight. I could certainly imagine Alexsi ejecting Dan from the Inn with her mallet, and Wildy beating him senseless and knocking him unconscious, but that is leagues different from someone like Regina trying to rip his throat out with her claws or some bladed instrument.
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Quote from: Turnsky on February 18, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
or more likely it's just Dan's way with women, don't forget wildy nearly does the same on a regular basis, same with his sister, too.
A brawl is much different than a lethal fight. I could certainly imagine Alexsi ejecting Dan from the Inn with her mallet, and Wildy beating him senseless and knocking him unconscious, but that is leagues different from someone like Regina trying to rip his throat out with her claws or some bladed instrument.
It's the difference between Dan making light by equating Arry's attack to the way his sister (or Wildy) beats up on him; or by comparing it to a serious attack that got much further along. Either way can work. Of course, because Alexsi
is his sister, and Wildy his Friend, he doesn't get serious with them, it's just roughhousing. With Arry, he was restricted by his promise to defense only.
Against DP, it was serious, but entirely professional, Dan had already vanquished DP once before, there was no grudge left. Against Regina, it's serious and personal. Regina made it
very personal. Her mistake.
QuoteI wonder if Dan's remark in 301 "It's not like you are the first girl to try and slaughter me painfully..." is a reference to his first encounter with Regina?
Good call! Although this might refer to the bird girl from comic #911 and any number of others we don't know about as well as Regina. (Interesting fact, when you search google for "can it be am fight time now", there is only one result!)
One thing that seems to strike me throughout the comic is a bias against racism, (i.e. not all demons are bad, etc.) this drives me to think there is a group of dragons and cubi bent on destroying each other, not
everyone in each race is for the idea. This leaves a little room for a dragon who has a reputation as being dimwitted also being left out on the "final ultimate solution" scenario.
Also, if the dragons did know of Dan as Destania's son, and only
thought he died during his encounter with Regina or a similar incident... But the theory that they never knew
Regina Destania reproduced is sounding more solid. I doubt they would be so sloppy as to not verify the son of one they hunted was dead,
(Thanks, I R dumb!)
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Also, if the dragons did know of Dan as Destania's son, and only thought he died during his encounter with Regina or a similar incident... But the theory that they never knew ReginaDestinia reproduced is sounding more solid. I doubt they would be so sloppy as to not verify the son of one they hunted was dead,
And Bigg's facetious invitation was worded "... don't know you exist..." rather than "... think you are dead...". Given the circumstances, not an ironclad piece of evidence, but suggestive.
Quote from: jimsan on February 19, 2009, 12:05:08 AM
QuoteI wonder if Dan's remark in 301 "It's not like you are the first girl to try and slaughter me painfully..." is a reference to his first encounter with Regina?
Good call! Although this might refer to the bird girl from comic #911 and any number of others we don't know about as well as Regina. (Interesting fact, when you search google for "can it be am fight time now", there is only one result!)
I doubt that's referring to Aliyka. And besides, in that instance, I think she just wanted to beat him to a pulp for stuffing her in a closet.
BTW, looking at Shanna again going into the fight, I notice she has no pupils, just like Rremly in Catharsis comic.
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Quote from: jimsan on February 19, 2009, 12:05:08 AM
Also, if the dragons did know of Dan as Destania's son, and only thought he died during his encounter with Regina or a similar incident... But the theory that they never knew ReginaDestinia Destania reproduced is sounding more solid. I doubt they would be so sloppy as to not verify the son of one they hunted was dead,
And Bigg's facetious invitation was worded "... don't know you exist..." rather than "... think you are dead...". Given the circumstances, not an ironclad piece of evidence, but suggestive.
I agree, that makes more sense. I don't know that they think Destania's dead either, since Biggs said they didn't know where she was. If she were dead it wouldn't matter--unless it was the possibility of being UN-dead....
Hmm....
Too many possibilities!
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 19, 2009, 01:49:40 AM
I agree, that makes more sense. I don't know that they think Destania's dead either, since Biggs said they didn't know where she was. If she were dead it wouldn't matter--unless it was the possibility of being UN-dead....
Hmm....
Too many possibilities!
considering the cubi, i don't think they'd let that happen, truth be told, undead seems fairly relegated to beings or beings with creature heritage like devin. must be because they're fairly easy to 'create' and easy to make the corpse.
Quote from: Turnsky on February 19, 2009, 07:36:53 AM
considering the cubi, i don't think they'd let that happen, truth be told, undead seems fairly relegated to beings or beings with creature heritage like devin. must be because they're fairly easy to 'create' and easy to make the corpse.
If I remember correctly, they have to die within 24 hours of being bitten. With Angels, Demons and 'Cubi it's easier to do the biting part to them than the dying part - especially if you need them to remain sufficiently whole to un-die afterwards.
As for Devin's heritage, I recently began to wonder if his daddy was an Angel. It would explain the light blue colour, it would explain why he left (seeing Devin without wings) and Angels seem to have a bit of a problem making more Angels instead of Beings.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 19, 2009, 01:49:40 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 19, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
Quote from: jimsan on February 19, 2009, 12:05:08 AM
Also, if the dragons did know of Dan as Destania's son, and only thought he died during his encounter with Regina or a similar incident... But the theory that they never knew ReginaDestinia Destania reproduced is sounding more solid. I doubt they would be so sloppy as to not verify the son of one they hunted was dead,
And Bigg's facetious invitation was worded "... don't know you exist..." rather than "... think you are dead...". Given the circumstances, not an ironclad piece of evidence, but suggestive.
I agree, that makes more sense. I don't know that they think Destania's dead either, since Biggs said they didn't know where she was. If she were dead it wouldn't matter--unless it was the possibility of being UN-dead....
Hmm....
Too many possibilities!
Actually, I think the reason they kidnapped Dan's dad was to get to Destania, so they know she's alive. She mentioned somewhere that the only reason he's still alive is because they can't find her.
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Quote from: Turnsky on February 19, 2009, 07:36:53 AM
considering the cubi, i don't think they'd let that happen, truth be told, undead seems fairly relegated to beings or beings with creature heritage like devin. must be because they're fairly easy to 'create' and easy to make the corpse.
If I remember correctly, they have to die within 24 hours of being bitten. With Angels, Demons and 'Cubi it's easier to do the biting part to them than the dying part - especially if you need them to remain sufficiently whole to un-die afterwards.
As for Devin's heritage, I recently began to wonder if his daddy was an Angel. It would explain the light blue colour, it would explain why he left (seeing Devin without wings) and Angels seem to have a bit of a problem making more Angels instead of Beings.
Woah, I didn't even catch that about Devin... although a father walking out on his son wouldn't be very angel-like... :mowsad
Quote from: jimsan on February 19, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
Woah, I didn't even catch that about Devin... although a father walking out on his son wouldn't be very angel-like... :mowsad
Well, his mother rambled about killing Devin 'like the others'. Assuming she wasn't entirely delirious, it suggests to me that Devin was the last attempt before the father gave up and tried partnering with someone else, and that if he hadn't left, they'd have killed Devin too.
As for being angel-like, don't confuse DMFA Angels with their Christianic namesakes. DMFA Angels aren't inherently good, and Demons aren't inherently evil - it's just what they're called in the series.
Not that Christian angels are necessarily nice either - see
The Prophecy, or read the Old Testament.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 19, 2009, 04:53:18 PM
Not that Christian angels are necessarily nice either - see The Prophecy, or read the Old Testament.
I wouldn't necessarily class them as "not nice"
More sort of, well, "you're not necessarily on their side", with all that that implies about enemies. And they don't have a Geneva Convention...
QuoteAs for being angel-like, don't confuse DMFA Angels with their Christianic namesakes.
Heh, don't take me
too seriously :P, I figured since there were good demons there could be bad angels. The thought just struck me as funny. (Although re-reading the bio on the angel race was quite enlightening)
The multiple "failures" does seem kinda harsh though... even then if it comes out an angel it might be sterile! Sucks to be an angel...
It looks like Dan's cubi clan may have intermingled with angels at one time or another, as well. (going by the coloration and feathers)
Dan....... part angel.......
OMGZ DAN IS STERILE!!!!111!!!1 :mowdizzy :< :B
Read the Cubi page (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/cubi.php). In fact the in universe joke (or half serious speculation) is that Cubi are the result of Angel/Demon mating.
Addendum: Also check the Cubi Hybrid Genetics page (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/HG02.php).
:U :mwaha I LOVE Regina's face in the last panel! Apparently she didn't realize that Dan was Cubi, otherwise she most likely never would have messed with him.
I was searching for something when I came across this:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4259.msg180943.html#msg180943
...in retrospect I found it kind of amusing.
i agree, the last panel was very funny. and regina's face makes me wonder if she wet herself.