The Watchmen comes to saterday morning cartoons

thegayhare · March 09, 2009, 12:41:50 PM

Check out this exclusive clip from the upcoming animated Watchmen series

Watchmen

radarnocturn · March 10, 2009, 01:52:01 AM

I think what's worst about that video is the implied incestual attraction, and everything with Rorschach.

Jairus · March 10, 2009, 02:00:21 AM

Quote from: radarnocturn on March 10, 2009, 01:52:01 AM
I think what's worst about that video is the implied incestual attraction, and everything with Rorschach.

No, I think that the worst part is that I can actually believe that some kid's show group would make this thing and actually market it to kids. It's not that far removed from reality. Unfortunately.

Sofox · March 10, 2009, 09:15:01 AM

Quote from: Jairus on March 10, 2009, 02:00:21 AM
Quote from: radarnocturn on March 10, 2009, 01:52:01 AM
I think what's worst about that video is the implied incestual attraction, and everything with Rorschach.
No, I think that the worst part is that I can actually believe that some kid's show group would make this thing and actually market it to kids. It's not that far removed from reality. Unfortunately.

I thought the worst part was that you would probably watch it.

Lisky · March 10, 2009, 09:28:12 AM

Quote from: Sofox on March 10, 2009, 09:15:01 AM
Quote from: Jairus on March 10, 2009, 02:00:21 AM
Quote from: radarnocturn on March 10, 2009, 01:52:01 AM
I think what's worst about that video is the implied incestual attraction, and everything with Rorschach.
No, I think that the worst part is that I can actually believe that some kid's show group would make this thing and actually market it to kids. It's not that far removed from reality. Unfortunately.
I thought the worst part was that you would probably watch it.

i know i would... with varying degree's of disgust... because i'd wonder what the people who make these kid's program are not willing to butcher for the sake of commercialism...

next up, Dawn of the Dead, the children's cartoon... following Ving Rhames on his zany adventures through zombie infested cities... it's like scoobie do, only a distinct lack of stoner references.... and lots of unused firearms, because they might hurt someone....

thegayhare · March 10, 2009, 09:53:50 AM

*giggles*
come on guys it was suposed to be funny

Jairus · March 10, 2009, 11:30:05 AM

Quote from: thegayhare on March 10, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
*giggles*
come on guys it was suposed to be funny

Oh, it's hilarious. It's just a little scary that I can fully imagine some exec green-lighting this thing. Watchmen, from what I understand, was a deconstruction of the superhero genre, and more importantly one that did it right. It's Darker and Edgier for the right reasons, and Moore knew how to put in the occasional glimmers of light to tell you that even though it's a crapsack world, there are still things worth fighting for. From what I understand, anyway. This cartoon, fake as it is, really can't do the story or the ideas behind it justice, and I'm half-awake and rambling so I'll stop here and drink my coffee. Mmmm... coffee.

How about "Resident Bad Things" as a kids show?

llearch n'n'daCorna · March 10, 2009, 11:58:04 AM

There are some arguments for and against that view, Jubblies. Not least, it's a collection of crap superheroes who aren't really all that super after all.

I'm not terribly eloquent on that, either, although I do know someone who posted a long argument on their blog, which I can look up sometime for you.

Jairus · March 10, 2009, 12:05:45 PM

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
There are some arguments for and against that view, Jubblies. Not least, it's a collection of crap superheroes who aren't really all that super after all.

I'm not terribly eloquent on that, either, although I do know someone who posted a long argument on their blog, which I can look up sometime for you.

It's quite alright, you don't need to dig it up, Lurch. And I'm speaking as someone who's neither read the comic nor is planning to see the movie, so I'm just going off of what I've heard. And I need more coffee.

As for the nature of deconstruction stories... I'm okay with deconstructions, but the problem is that people just follow the trend of Darker and Edgier without looking at the effort of deconstruction, and that leads to someone later on having to do a reconstruction of the genre. If I was going to try something like that, I'd probably try to pull off a simultaneous deconstruction/reconstruction of a genre: showing off the foibles and silly bits for what they are and how they'd work in the real world, but also showing that maybe those foibles are worth keeping. And I'm not making any sense.

Jigsaw Forte · March 10, 2009, 03:07:31 PM

... My uterus climbed an extra two inches up inside upon watching that.

I mean, DEAR GOD.

Brunhidden · March 10, 2009, 03:09:55 PM

Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on March 10, 2009, 03:07:31 PM
... My uterus climbed an extra two inches up inside upon watching that.

you win five thousand Internets for that mind boggling expression, its even better then when i heard the term 'fart squelching' used in a proper sentence

Jigsaw Forte · March 10, 2009, 03:16:20 PM

Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on March 10, 2009, 03:07:31 PM
... My uterus climbed an extra two inches up inside upon watching that.

you win five thousand Internets for that mind boggling expression, its even better then when i heard the term 'fart squelching' used in a proper sentence

I'm just saying, I'm already at a disadvantage for having my genitalia retracted inside my body! People need to stop making things that just keep scaring them in deeper!

Brunhidden · March 10, 2009, 03:49:44 PM

when they release a boxed set were going to have to start measuring the distance between your uterus and your mouth so we know when it will try to escape

thegayhare · March 10, 2009, 05:05:06 PM

Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:49:44 PM
when they release a boxed set were going to have to start measuring the distance between your uterus and your mouth so we know when it will try to escape

*eyes closed banging his head against the key board*

Fighting mental image, fighting mental image......

I mean dear god the orriginal line was bad enough I don't need to see that running through my...

AHHHHH!!!!

*collapses on the floor*

Image won

Joe3210 · March 10, 2009, 06:19:04 PM

Oh lawd, the dogs were a classic. "I'm Nutty!"

Angel · March 10, 2009, 07:38:10 PM

I....I had to watch it with the mute on. And I stopped it the moment I saw Rorschach juggling pies...

It was horrible...HORRIBLE... I now understand how Alex DeLarge felt! It made me want to do things... TERRIBLE THINGS!

(if there was a smilie that rocked back and forth in a fetal position in the corner, I'd put it here and name it Mark)

But yeah, it was funny. In a messed-up kind of way. I know that's only from the book's mention of the cartoon coming up, but still. A talking Bubastis and a clowny Rorschach were enough.

Lisky · March 10, 2009, 07:50:04 PM

there are very few good series that have been turned into cartoon shows that actually don't make the fans want to form a lynch mob... actually, come to think of it... i can only think of one...

they actually made a Starship Troopers cartoon series... and the fact that it didn't totally suck is what shocked me...

Jairus · March 10, 2009, 07:56:42 PM

Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 10, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
there are very few good series that have been turned into cartoon shows that actually don't make the fans want to form a lynch mob... actually, come to think of it... i can only think of one...

they actually made a Starship Troopers cartoon series... and the fact that it didn't totally suck is what shocked me...

Well, what about the DC Animated Universe? Batman, Superman, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Unlimited? Those were pretty damned good animated adaptations of the movie. Well, sorta.

radarnocturn · March 11, 2009, 01:39:30 AM

Quote from: Jairus on March 10, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
Well, what about the DC Animated Universe? Batman, Superman, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Unlimited? Those were pretty damned good animated adaptations of the movie. Well, sorta.

Oh yeah, Batman the Animated Series was great! It gave us the lovely Harley Quinn! The new Batman series where he teams up with other heroes, I swear I can't hear the new Batman's voice without being reminded of Office Space or Oswald from the Drew Carey Show.

radarnocturn · March 11, 2009, 01:40:54 AM

Quote from: Black_angel on March 10, 2009, 07:38:10 PM
I....I had to watch it with the mute on. And I stopped it the moment I saw Rorschach juggling pies...

It was horrible...HORRIBLE... I now understand how Alex DeLarge felt! It made me want to do things... TERRIBLE THINGS!

(if there was a smilie that rocked back and forth in a fetal position in the corner, I'd put it here and name it Mark)

But yeah, it was funny. In a messed-up kind of way. I know that's only from the book's mention of the cartoon coming up, but still. A talking Bubastis and a clowny Rorschach were enough.

Awww! You missed the scene where the Comedian's got a crush on Silk Spectre II! He's got hearts in his eyes and everything, he's her Biggest fan! Then there's the scene where he's knocked out a window wearing a robe and Ozymandias catches his hand and saves him!

llearch n'n'daCorna · March 11, 2009, 06:56:54 AM

Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 10, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
they actually made a Starship Troopers cartoon series... and the fact that it didn't totally suck is what shocked me...

Ooo, uncanny valley, here we come.

Not to mention, they're still pissing all over Heinlein's grave. Nice suits, but what's with the dropships? I mean, the Valley Forge was supposed to be flown by a woman, that Rico was sweet on, because she was significantly better than any man available - to the point of being able to adjust the flight plan on the fly to pick up someone late, and still make rendezvous... it should drop the troopers itself, rather than dropping individual little ships. Razcek was captain, not lieutenant. The three friends ended up on totally different planets for most of the story. They haven't managed to get the suits right, yet. The troopers should have been dropped from space individually, in their suits...

I could go on, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one listening. *shudder* I could only watch the first half of the first chunk. Ew.

Drase · March 11, 2009, 10:44:16 AM

So many things wrong with the watchmen cartoon... Maybe I missed the part where owl likes to 'party down'. Maybe the juggling pies is from loss of sanity, but 'nutty' doesn't quite cover all of it. And since when could john give people cancer, or turn into a car for that matter... I've only seen the movie, so maybe I'm missing something.

Jairus · March 11, 2009, 11:17:38 AM

Quote from: Drase on March 11, 2009, 10:44:16 AM
So many things wrong with the watchmen cartoon... Maybe I missed the part where owl likes to 'party down'. Maybe the juggling pies is from loss of sanity, but 'nutty' doesn't quite cover all of it. And since when could john give people cancer, or turn into a car for that matter... I've only seen the movie, so maybe I'm missing something.

The cancer bit is something from the comic where a tabloid or something accuses Doctor Manhattan of giving everyone around him cancer. Him turning into a car is just something a kid's show would do, like that Scooby Doo-ripoff show with the talking dune buggy. I have to say, Doc's speedo is a nice touch to make it more kid friendly.

Brunhidden · March 11, 2009, 11:33:19 AM

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 11, 2009, 06:56:54 AM
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 10, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
they actually made a Starship Troopers cartoon series... and the fact that it didn't totally suck is what shocked me...
rant

yeah, the troopers should be fired from whats essentially a large mancannon, have the ability to jump with rocket assist when need be, be swimming in social commentary, regard standing a half mile apart as being in 'close formation', and have live nukes ranking somewhere just barely in their top ten most dangerous weapons. ive seen all of about three minutes of the starship troopers movie and all i did see seemed to be a parody of 50s era war support style patriotism, which to me would be like watching LOTR where all the hobbits are just real people who had their shins shot off in Nam and are high on acid. seriously, read the damned book, failure to do so will be punished by public flogging

Lisky · March 11, 2009, 12:11:41 PM

oh, i did, i'm just saying, it's one of the few times a kids show has butchered something great, and something absolutly terrible didn't come out... should it have been titled something else... absolutely, as about the only thing that had anything to do with the book were the names... hell... wasn't dizzy a guy... and Hispanic?

oh, and if i remember the book correctly, it was only 1 guy in the squad who carried nukes, everyone else had a wide range of mortars, and lasers, and other crazy weaponry at their disposal... and everyone wore power armor with all kinds of awesome attachments... like sticking your tounge out would be all it took to have the suit stick you with an IV of stimulants, food, and i beleive a sedative was also in there, but that might have been when damaged the suit had some automatic features....

oh, and another important note, every soldier had the equivalent of small nuclear reactor strapped to their back...

thegayhare · March 11, 2009, 12:38:04 PM

Personaly I liked the talking bomb they used

Toss it into a room and it announces "I am a Bomb" before the count down starts

Brunhidden · March 11, 2009, 12:42:55 PM

Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 11, 2009, 12:11:41 PM
oh, and another important note, every soldier had the equivalent of small nuclear reactor strapped to their back...

which is why it was a good idea to stand a half mile appart, spread out the destruction and its safer in case your buddy is lucky enough to get a bullet to his cooling coil

Quote from: thegayhare on March 11, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Personaly I liked the talking bomb they used

Toss it into a room and it announces "I am a Bomb" before the count down starts

great way to win a war- prove to the enemy that your too crazy to mess with, the survivors who ran a way from the talking bomb will tell everyone just how batshit insane you are

King Of Hearts · March 11, 2009, 09:48:57 PM

this what I was looking forward to when they announced the Watchmen movie... there are simply a lot of people out there who would make so much use of the source material for hilarity.

*searches Rorschach on Deviant art*

Some things really shouldnt be "cute" but now I think Rorchach isnt one of them.

ShadesFox · March 11, 2009, 09:51:49 PM

I really like how they went out of their way to subvert the original material as horribly as possible. Like how Rorchach is nuts, but in the cute and lovable way.

King Of Hearts · March 11, 2009, 10:15:02 PM

Its the "highschool" Watchmen pics that amuse me to no end.

*snickers*

Priceless.

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anyway, I found this thing, tangently related... an old Watchmen movie draft from back in the '89. i dont have the strength of heart to read trough all of it... Im just happy the movie turned outr the way it did.

http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/wtchmn.txt

The Watchmen comes to saterday morning cartoons

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