04/20/08 [Abel 2 #14] - "Of course it's a ****ing PROBLEM!"

[Sunblink]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


OWNED. Oh Aniz. That asshole. He's just a stupid bully at heart, throwing a tantrum when he's confronted with someone he isn't able to slap around.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Yes, owned.

"Three on the way" *snerk*

Aniz lacks the big ideas.

[thegayhare]

Hmm what is he doing exactly

He can't be breeding an army because that would require his kids like him or atleast respect him.

This is making me think that he might be Devins father

[Mwa]

So he does have some kind of plan. I like his angry wings, and the way the circle around him spikes with said wings. 
Also last one? This has been tried before!

[Tapewolf]

I absolutely love Fa'Lina's expression in pane 4.  And it is interesting that he wasn't the first to do this kind of thing.

[Sunblink]

I absolutely love Fa'Lina's expression in pane 4.  And it is interesting that he wasn't the first to do this kind of thing.

It was kind of hinted in the Cubi page of the Hybrid Genetics Mini-Arc that Aniz isn't the only one to go on a reproduction crusade. Or it could have been how I interpreted it, but it did make Aniz's plans a little more clear to me.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

[Ren Gaulen]

Maybe if you bring enough of your kinds in, you'll get some kind of a premium? Nah, that's not likely to be a reason..
Also, I find Aniz's reaction highly annoying. He should realize that he is defeated, and face his defeat like a man, not like a bratty child. Shame on you, Aniz. You have lost a fan in my face right when you said "That is unfair". But Fa'Lina's retort was absolutely priceless. She has the power and she knows how to use it.

[Tapewolf]

And it is interesting that he wasn't the first to do this kind of thing.

It was kind of hinted in the Cubi page of the Hybrid Genetics Mini-Arc that Aniz isn't the only one to go on a reproduction crusade.

It's not entirely clear whether that's what they mean.  Remember, Fa'Lina has basically allocated 75 years to make Abel sane (ish).  That was her rationale, the implication being that if Abel had been sane should wouldn't have placed such a restriction.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I absolutely love Fa'Lina's expression in pane 4.  And it is interesting that he wasn't the first to do this kind of thing.

It was kind of hinted in the Cubi page of the Hybrid Genetics Mini-Arc that Aniz isn't the only one to go on a reproduction crusade. Or it could have been how I interpreted it, but it did make Aniz's plans a little more clear to me.

I'm minded of another story I've read, in which a ruler of an area on a planet newly reconnected to the rest of the human sphere (and hence newly met up with things like cloning, and babies in bottles, rather than mothers) decided to increase his population. Rather than by setting taxes so that people would move in, he decided to use the spare ovarian cells collected when various folks in his demesne visited the clinic, that they didn't use and would normally be discarded, to generate him some daughters.

A hundred something.

Since it wasn't against the law, the emperor had to come up with some other way of slapping him down. As I recall, the legal tangle meant that the emperor could specify that he had to pay dowries on them all, as part of the checks and balances keeping everyone working together. And he could set the dowries arbitrarily high...

[Tezkat]

Maybe if you bring enough of your kinds in, you'll get some kind of a premium? Nah, that's not likely to be a reason..

Meh... could be. Perhaps he wants to have a lot of kids and start his own clan or somesuch (i.e. boost himself into Tri-Winged status). We do know that his existing clan is currently founderless and nearly extinct...

[PurpleCheeseLlama]

We do know that his existing clan is currently founderless and nearly extinct...

Well, we know that 375-odd years later, in present DMFA time, the clan is pretty much extinct. We're still not entirely sure of it's current state in the Abel Story canon.

[Zorro]

He had best realize the fact he is outclassed and concede the point before he does something stupid and pointless.  

[Wanderer]

Take it and shove it, Aniz. This is her school that she provides as a SERVICE to the rest of the Cubi, out of her own generosity (or her own machiavellian plans, whatever, she still doesn't HAVE to do it). She sets the rules here. She's doing you a FAVOR by letting your kids enroll at all. You want to tell her what she can and can't do in her home? Do you have ANY idea what she could DO to you if she decides you're becoming too much of a bother?

The emotional trauma Abel's giving off right now has to be causing havoc among the rest of the students, especially any relatively new ones. That's not something that can be "fixed" easily. Figure several years just to deal with troubles caused by that, and then another good number of them as a slap on the wrist for Aniz for giving Fa'Lina this hassle to begin with. Sounds fair to me.

[AndersW]

I'm minded of another story I've read, in which a ruler of an area on a planet newly reconnected to the rest of the human sphere (and hence newly met up with things like cloning, and babies in bottles, rather than mothers) decided to increase his population. Rather than by setting taxes so that people would move in, he decided to use the spare ovarian cells collected when various folks in his demesne visited the clinic, that they didn't use and would normally be discarded, to generate him some daughters.

A hundred something.

Since it wasn't against the law, the emperor had to come up with some other way of slapping him down. As I recall, the legal tangle meant that the emperor could specify that he had to pay dowries on them all, as part of the checks and balances keeping everyone working together. And he could set the dowries arbitrarily high...

Dowries! Dowries! A hundred and eighteen dowries...

I love that book.

[Zedd]

Yeah squak all you want big red but she gots you on a fine string

[Alondro]

Hee, I knew he had more kids on the way!

Charline is much more clever...

... she eats her kids!!!  

[Tapewolf]

Meh... could be. Perhaps he wants to have a lot of kids and start his own clan or somesuch (i.e. boost himself into Tri-Winged status).

That has given me some very interesting (and rather nasty) ideas to play with.

[Wanderer]

Hee, I knew he had more kids on the way!

Charline is much more clever...

... she eats her kids!!!   

Didn't Amber turn Charline good some time back? Or did I miss some conversation around here where that got fixed? (entirely likely, I don't read any threads except the ones about the current comic).

[SpottedKitty]

Dowries! Dowries! A hundred and eighteen dowries...

I love that book.

I thought that scenario sounded familiar. Been a while since I last read A Civil Campaign, though, so I wasn't sure.

I'm wondering, though, how right we are about our guesses on Aniz and "his plans". Is he just using the "cuckoo strategy" to bootstrap his clan's numbers? Sounds like it, from Fa'lina's reply, but I'm also remembering Amber's hula-fu. The combined DMFA fandom has been surprised before...   

[Lucheek]

1) When Aniz said "He looks just like them"- who is them?
2) When Fa'Lina said "The last person who tried this"- What is this?

Over all question, "WHAT IS ANIZ'S GOAL?"

ANSWERS.

[Angel]

Maybe if you bring enough of your kinds in, you'll get some kind of a premium? Nah, that's not likely to be a reason..
Also, I find Aniz's reaction highly annoying. He should realize that he is defeated, and face his defeat like a man, not like a bratty child. Shame on you, Aniz. You have lost a fan in my face right when you said "That is unfair". But Fa'Lina's retort was absolutely priceless. She has the power and she knows how to use it.

Well, I can imagine having such a sparse clan would make one a little indignant at having a metaphorical chastity belt locked on you for the next seventy-six years. 3 to 1 says he breaks that, though, and suffers the consequences. (Why the hell am I sympathizing with him right now? I mean, he's a bastard, but I still feel a little bad for him...)

And yeah, Fa'Lina pwns massively right now.

[Psaakyrn]

It's always nagged me: If clan founders cannot reproduce, how does the clan get started to begin with? Making a wild guess here, but I think one of the supposed requirements is to have a certain number of offsprings first , and when you reach a threshold, you become sufficiently powerful to forge your own clan (and taking all the offsprings into fold as well.).

[yamiblade]

Fa'lina owns.  *has been bumped up to my favorite character.  Sorry Dan*

[Wanderer]

It's always nagged me: If clan founders cannot reproduce, how does the clan get started to begin with? Making a wild guess here, but I think one of the supposed requirements is to have a certain number of offsprings first , and when you reach a threshold, you become sufficiently powerful to forge your own clan (and taking all the offsprings into fold as well.).

I suspect a clan founder doesn't simply start with themselves and say "I'm starting a clan!" but rather has a certain number of supporters who want to be their own clan and has them be sort of the "base members" so to speak of the new clan. Thus, while the founder him/herself can't reproduce, the people he or she brings into the clan at the moment of founding can.

[Valynth]

Hee, I knew he had more kids on the way!

Charline is much more clever...

... she eats her kids!!!  

Careful, I think the last one she ate was a rock....

[demecowen]

I used to believe that Aniz plan was shove his kids into the school use it as a way increase his prestige over the cubi race, but after seeing his tantrum, not any more.  I mean so far Fa'Lina punch him twice and willing to do more if not for political reason and Abel well-being. Yet now he trying to get in her face, act it not fair.

Did he forget that royally screw over two other clans and brought his trouble in a basket to Fa'Lina? Did he honestly thought he was not going to get in trouble for his mess?

I mean his action and attiude lately, make me hard to beleive he can lead water down a river much less restore or increase his clan number lead them to glory.

So here another theory that I came up by this quote:

1) When Aniz said "He looks just like them"- who is them?
Over all question, "WHAT IS ANIZ'S GOAL?"

I think Aniz trying to breed a special cubi. Like in FF7 where you mate chocobos together to breed powerful chocobo to travel anywhere. Aniz would breed powerful cubi and send him/her to SAIA to fully harness their power. To do what with I don't know. 

[Madmann135]

Fa'Lina if she was not an unpredictable psyco I would hug then kiss her straight on the lips.

[Gamma]

Yeah the odds of getting away with that are like 1 in 600,000 on one of her good days. Your more likely to burst into flames upon entering the same room.
Although what cool flames they would be, and the joy that would be had watching you run around on fire. Then what would be done with your half-dead body..., well that would be telling now wouldn't it. 

[Valynth]

Yeah the odds of getting away with that are like 1 in 600,000 on one of her good days. Your more likely to burst into flames upon entering the same room.
Although what cool flames they would be, and the joy that would be had watching you run around on fire. Then what would be done with your half-dead body..., well that would be telling now wouldn't it. 

I say it's worth it, just because of the look on her face a few seconds before the slaughter.

[Madmann135]

I could say something that would make you say WTF... but I won't.
I'm not worried about catching fire, it is a regular thing for me to burst into flames. (well my avatar)