04/28/07 Abel's Story [84] Wow

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Nino

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Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 28, 2007, 01:03:40 AM
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 28, 2007, 01:02:11 AM
Hah I said it the eye patch was a patch! to bad he tuned all evil

I'm pretty sure that Amber said it wasn't a patch in the title of her newest rant.

Just saying.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one paying attention.

Also, to all you who were saying "I told you so" to the May-cheated-on-Cid theory, go eat a humble pie. Now.

superluser

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 28, 2007, 12:49:39 AMWhat also needs to be explained is why Cid-ish-guy is all evil, instead of trying to, you know, NOT drive abel insane and thus lose him as a potential candidate for cubi-son-dom.

Or he could just not care.  Maybe he never even went to SAIA.  Maybe SAIA wants Cid dead.

Quote from: Rafe on April 28, 2007, 12:51:09 AMCid (or whoever) has apparently snapped off whatever charm he was wearing to change back to an incubus.  You can see the cord but I didn't notice anything on it.

I can dispute this post in two emoticons:

???  :shapeshifters

Quote from: Rafe on April 28, 2007, 12:51:09 AMAlso, the fact that Dan looks a lot like him might give some real insight into why Abel reacts to Dan the way he does.  Even if they aren't connected somehow, Abel might be seeing the Incubus  Cid every time he looks at Dan.

But Dan doesn't look very much like Cid or Edward.  If he knew Edward, which he seems to, that might change things.  It's also possible that Cid and Edward are related, but not the same person.  Also note Cid's youthful appearance, which looks a *lot* like Cid's current appearance.  Did people claim that Cid was Ed back then?

Also, I'm liking the ``Someone replaced Cid on the way home'' theory.


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Fuyudenki

[edit]and responses are still coming in hard and fast.  Phooey, nobody here's reading anyone elses' posts.[/edit]

At this point, I think Cid was playing Fae, deciding he wanted to be someone else just long enough to have a kid and learn whether it was a cubi or not.  I'm also starting to think the people who suspected Devin and Abel were half-brothers were probably right, and Devin's mom refused to kill him when they found out he wasn't a cubi(just like those same people said!)

And now, a message to the author.

Personally, if I could have pulled off the kind of plot twist you just did, I wouldn't have been stressing out over it, I'd have been grinning and giggling the entire time... which is probably why I can't pull it off.  This was good.  Sure, you've take a character we all looked up to and made us hate him, but the way you did it...  Simply awesome.  Putting a plot twist into the story like that, pulling it off as perfectly as you just did, and keeping all of us guessing the entire time takes skill and dedication.  I just can not adequately say how awestruck I am right now that you just pulled this whole thing off.

Mrs. Williams, you deserve some serious mad kudos for that, but at very least, I'd like to give you a pat on the back.

Nino

Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 28, 2007, 01:06:19 AM
[edit]and responses are still coming in hard and fast.  Phooey, nobody here's reading anyone elses' posts.[/edit]

At this point, I think Cid was playing Fae, deciding he wanted to be someone else just long enough to have a kid and learn whether it was a cubi or not.  I'm also starting to think the people who suspected Devin and Abel were half-brothers were probably right, and Devin's mom refused to kill him when they found out he wasn't a cubi(just like those same people said!)

Except Amber said Dan and Devin were not related, and I'm thinking Dan and Abel are, which means (through deductive reasoning), Abel and Devin cannot be. But that's only if the theory is true.

Gah, one question answered, a million more =<

Amber Williams

Couple notes:

1: I'm mixing up next week's update schedules. Instead of Furrae Fashion along with DMFA normal, it will be Abel's Story.  So I guess you wont have to wait a week for the next page...be that a good or bad thing.

2: Tsk tsk Aridas.  Considering how the forum speculates EVERY possible outcome and its cousin, it is more likely than not some are going to get it right. 

3: People are correct. The eyepatch is not a charm.  In fact...it would be more a red herring than anything.  I didnt' even realize that Aniz taking off the eyepatch as the same time he was changing back would look like they were related until I was adding the words.  Hence the top-rant commentary.  Not that it matters...cause it will get mentioned proper in story. 

Sometimes things are just things, and coincidences are just that.  Not every single thing in the world is an implication or a deeper meaning.

superluser



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Stygian

Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 28, 2007, 01:03:40 AM
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 28, 2007, 01:02:11 AM
Hah I said it the eye patch was a patch! to bad he tuned all evil

I'm pretty sure that Amber said it wasn't a patch in the title of her newest rant.

Just saying.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

I think Rafe just said it. Get a clue. And get with the evil.

LoneHowler

I'm beginning to wonder about Cid's complete change of personality and the fact that he seemed to be in genuine pain just before he ripped the patch off. I think his cubi personality was magically caged by the eye patch, now the questions are why, who did it and how come?
Yes I know I'm a horrid speller queen of typos but dang it, I'm trying to get better
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Fuyudenki

#38
SWEET!  More Abel's story!

I still love it!  I love plot twists like the last half dozen pages have been, jerking you left and right, giving you whiplash, and then knocking you out cold with one final punch you never even saw coming!

I don't even care that we're going to have to re-figure Cid again!  The ride, the sudden jolt of adrenaline, was worth every moment!

On that note, I can't help but notice that Aniz's ears look odd... probably a side-effect of the shape-shifting effect, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the unmasking.

LoneHowler

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Quote from: LoneHowler on April 28, 2007, 01:17:48 AM
I'm beginning to wonder about Cid's complete change of personality and the fact that he seemed to be in genuine pain just before he ripped the patch off. I think his cubi personality was magically caged by the eye patch, now the questions are why, who did it and how come?

oops missed Ambers post while I was writing now I ask why did he play his family like that for years
Yes I know I'm a horrid speller queen of typos but dang it, I'm trying to get better
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Aridas

Quote from: Amber Williams on April 28, 2007, 01:13:26 AM2: Tsk tsk Aridas.  Considering how the forum speculates EVERY possible outcome and its cousin, it is more likely than not some are going to get it right. 
Search your feelings... you know it to be true...

Ok, I had my fun. :3

superluser

Quote from: LoneHowler on April 28, 2007, 01:17:48 AMI'm beginning to wonder about Cid's complete change of personality and the fact that he seemed to be in genuine pain just before he ripped the patch off. I think his cubi personality was magically caged by the eye patch, now the questions are why, who did it and how come?

Note:  Cid's eye patch has been changed.  In 03, it was deep green.


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The Lurking Dragon

#42
... crap. There goes my hope it wasn't one of the parents. Oh well.
*waits to see what all the fallout is*
edit - maybe this 'cubi feeds off the feeling of betrayal? (He'd make a nice stenographer for divorce court I think.)
"You can't see me or hear me unless I want you to."
The Lurking Dragon

Fuyudenki

well, one of Abel's favorite flavors is confusion, and judging from some things Dr. Ink has said, I suspect that kind of thing is hereditary in Cubi(Dan's affinity for pain comes from his mother's clan, not necessarily from any adventuring he himself took place in).  Based on that, I'd suspect Aniz has a taste for confusion, as well, and as someone pointed out in another Abel's Story discussion thread, there's been plenty of confusion flying around lately, both in the story and on the boards.

Aurawyn

Quote from: Gornemant on April 28, 2007, 12:16:18 AM
Well, either Cid has a weird complex, or Cid's been dead for many years and that guy just took his place out of fun  >:3

Stay tuned and don't miss next week's episode  :P

I can't wait a week!!

Put the main strip on hold and do Only Abel's story updates!!

Thats my vote anyhow...

LoneHowler

Ok maybe the reason Abel's wings are half spiky is his mom is ether a demon or a dragon. poor Abel living in a house of lies. the reason I suspect demon is here http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_19.php.
If the Cid is Dan's father theory's are true Dragon because he may hate his parents after that 
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Aurawyn

Quote from: Kattuccino on April 28, 2007, 12:23:53 AM
Abel had said something to Dan about his father. There's gotta be something we don't know about here.

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php

Reference comic

I have always wondered about that.. ever sence that page came out...

Fuyudenki

Quote from: Aurawyn on April 28, 2007, 01:34:25 AM
Put the main strip on hold and do Only Abel's story updates!!

Thats my vote anyhow...

Not mine!  It's pretty clear this is hard on Amber.  I think we need some happy DMFA to balance out the shocking revelations in Abel's Story.

That, and the Queen Mab arc looks like it'll be fun, too.

Cogidubnus

:dface

Simply, amazingly, beautifully, tragically...perfect. If the smack be sour, the better for the embittered hour...

Simply, the best I have read yet.

thegayhare

#49
Hmm Cid and Aniz bo look similer but there are plenty of differances

the ears, chest, paws, and eyes.

but I'm positive that for atleast as long as we've known him Cid has always been Aniz. 

before we came along who knows

As for Aniz and Edward the only similaritys I see are that they are male felines with beards
differnt base coats, differnt ears

superluser

Quote from: The Lurking Dragon on April 28, 2007, 01:24:35 AM... crap. There goes my hope it wasn't one of the parents. Oh well.

Er...?  Wouldn't his incubus/succubus parent have to be his parent?

Anyways, I'm still wondering what Aniz's motivation is.

For example, why would Cid tell May that `cubi can hide their headwings?  If he's going for the mindf**k, it would make more sense to simply say that he can sense `cubi as an adventurer.  And given Hennya's total knowledge on the subject, it's likely that he wouldn't want to give either of them any more information that might be helpful.

Aniz may be powerful, but it's a being, an incubus, and a mythos against one incubus.  Not time for the ol' hand-chafing supervillain gloat-and-explain-the-plot.

I'm still wondering why he slapped her.  As far as I can see, there's no reason to do that.  It's simply audience pandering.  Like how certain porn fic authors will suggest positions and actions that are uncomfortable for the participants, but are arousing for the readers (I went there before, but I wanted to make the analogy clearer so that people don't think I'm just trash talking).

If Aniz wanted certain emotions, this is a strange way of getting them.  If he is, then he doesn't seem to be going after one particular emotion, but a rapid succession of different ones.  I think he just knocked the confusion right outta May, for example.

Aniz killed Cid recently is looking to be a good theory.

Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 28, 2007, 01:39:54 AMNot mine!  It's pretty clear this is hard on Amber.  I think we need some happy DMFA to balance out the shocking revelations in Abel's Story.

Yeah, but 783 (ETA Friday) is not going to be happy.

Does Aniz have any ribbon candy?  :B


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:U  :erk That's a plot twist

QuoteAniz killed Cid recently is looking to be a good theory.
Not sure about that
QuoteWhen I said it was either the mother or the father... I never lied once.
I understand from what he said that either it's been him since the beggining or at least for several years.

Nino

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Quote from: superluser on April 28, 2007, 01:55:48 AM
Quote from: The Lurking Dragon on April 28, 2007, 01:24:35 AM... crap. There goes my hope it wasn't one of the parents. Oh well.

Er...?  Wouldn't his incubus/succubus parent have to be his parent?

Anyways, I'm still wondering what Aniz's motivation is.

For example, why would Cid tell May that `cubi can hide their headwings?  If he's going for the mindf**k, it would make more sense to simply say that he can sense `cubi as an adventurer.  And given Hennya's total knowledge on the subject, it's likely that he wouldn't want to give either of them any more information that might be helpful.

Aniz may be powerful, but it's a being, an incubus, and a mythos against one incubus.  Not time for the ol' hand-chafing supervillain gloat-and-explain-the-plot.

I'm still wondering why he slapped her.  As far as I can see, there's no reason to do that.  It's simply audience pandering.  Like how certain porn fic authors will suggest positions and actions that are uncomfortable for the participants, but are arousing for the readers (I went there before, but I wanted to make the analogy clearer so that people don't think I'm just trash talking).

If Aniz wanted certain emotions, this is a strange way of getting them.  If he is, then he doesn't seem to be going after one particular emotion, but a rapid succession of different ones.  I think he just knocked the confusion right outta May, for example.

Aniz killed Cid recently is looking to be a good theory.

Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 28, 2007, 01:39:54 AMNot mine!  It's pretty clear this is hard on Amber.  I think we need some happy DMFA to balance out the shocking revelations in Abel's Story.

Yeah, but 783 (ETA Friday) is not going to be happy.

Does Aniz have any ribbon candy?  :B

Recently? Cid had to have been Abel's father. And Abel's hatred of cubi who assume completely alternate identities? I'm guessing there is no real "Cid" here. Sad, because I liked the character.

As to why he slapped her? He's obviously a jerk. I'm guessing he despises beings, which is why he probably led the massacre against Dev and co.

Edit: anyone wanna bet the person he was saying he ran into was Kria? Also, going back and reading the archives knowing who Cid is is creepy.

Grenn

To me, it almost looks like Aniz was doing some kind of posession with Cid from the time he had Abel.

Maybe Cid was none the wiser until now, and the heart attack was really Aniz taking full control and kind of "killing" Cid in the process of taking his body or something?

Yeah, that theory's way the hell out in left field, but it almost makes sense if you look at the cues. That, or I've just drawn a conclusion from sketchy details. :)

But it just seems like there would be no reason for him to reveal himself as a Cubi by faking a heart attack, then not using it for any reason other then to smack May which he could have done without the whole heart attack thing. I really think that heart attack is Aniz kind of taking Cid over or something.

Aridas

I'm kinda hoping may is also not simply a being, and then maybe a springeresque fight breaks out. It could happen :<

Btw, a good reason to pretend having a heart attack is to CATCH SOMEONE OFF GUARD. especially if you're going to maim or kill someone.

The Lurking Dragon

I swear I remembered reading that the cubi trait could skip generations and manifest in people that didn't have an immediate relative that was a cubi. In this case though, obviously it isn't. (the case.) That's all I meant.
"You can't see me or hear me unless I want you to."
The Lurking Dragon

Grenn

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 28, 2007, 02:15:37 AM
I'm kinda hoping may is also not simply a being, and then maybe a springeresque fight breaks out. It could happen :<

Btw, a good reason to pretend having a heart attack is to CATCH SOMEONE OFF GUARD. especially if you're going to maim or kill someone.

True enough.

Plus, since the lifespan is at least several thousand years, a Cubi pretending to be somebody could fufill that identity for a being's lifetime without much of a problem. I'd assums that they would have learned a lot of patience.

superluser

Quote from: Kattuccino on April 28, 2007, 02:10:44 AMRecently? Cid had to have been Abel's father. And Abel's hatred of cubi who assume completely alternate identities? I'm guessing there is no real "Cid" here. Sad, because I liked the character.

As to why he slapped her? He's obviously a jerk. I'm guessing he despises beings, which is why he probably led the massacre against Dev and co.

Edit: anyone wanna bet the person he was saying he ran into was Kria? Also, going back and reading the archives knowing who Cid is is creepy.

Let me explain `recently.'  Actually, let me explain that in conjunction with the slapping question.

So Aniz hates beings, right?  Why did he have sex with one, sire a child that he knew was going to be an incubus, *and then live with a being for the next twenty-four years*?  It gets even stranger with the ``Aniz is Devin's father'' story.  Why would he play the field, to the exclusion of trying to have more kids with May?  It's not exactly like she could say no.  All he'd have to do is reach into her mind and figure out what arguments she was going to use, and I guarantee that he would win the argument.

Also, it makes little sense to build up a strong relationship if you plan to destroy it.  It never hurts to have a little maudlin being telling the lynch mob, ``No!  You can't hurt him!  I *love* him.''  It might not help in Zinvth (or maybe it would--like a little puppy), but he might not live there forever.

I also suspect that domestic violence laws in Zinvth are pretty strong, and they wouldn't exactly be intimidated by an incubus.


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Manawolf

20 years of this act.  You've now reached "Drip" status in the level of assholery.

Moonfrost

#59
 :) He's kinda cute, in an evil way. :giggle

*wanders off to create a new sig* >:3