09/28/08 [DMFA #939] - Newton Strikes Again

Started by Ren Gaulen, September 28, 2008, 09:48:21 PM

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Ren Gaulen

I think Fi has found gravity at the most inconvenient time. :[ But at least Dan managed to do something that looked really badass! :>



Jairus

A badass moment indeed. Curse you Fi for ruining it!


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Ren Gaulen

Quote from: Jairus on September 28, 2008, 09:52:17 PM
A badass moment indeed. Curse you Fi for ruining it!
I wouldn't go as far as to say that Fi ruined the badass moment, since Dan went back to his normal, non-badass mode before Fi landed on him. :P



Jack McSlay

You know what they say about cats landing on their feet. at least when they're conscious, that is
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Gamma

True, panels 1-4 were badass, it went back to normal at 5, then back to basics at 6 and 7.

Fi moving at 9.8 m/s, sounds like fun.
If I knew the mass we could see how much force he applied to Dan's cranium/neck. Actually we could do it from weight, get mass by extrapolation and then get force. Or use a direct conversion formula. 
Include friction variables and we could even see how much force Dan's wings resisted while descending. :)

Huh, I wonder if Furrae uses Standard or Metric? :tmyk
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Naldru

Er, don't you mean that Fi was accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second

Before you say I'm too picky, I have seen worse from engineering students in college.  I especially liked the one who got the wrong answer using the wrong method, and wanted to know if he could get partial credit.  (Even if he had been using the right method, he would have gotten the wrong answer since his math was wrong.)  I just hope that he isn't now designing the planes that we fly.
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Lorien

XD that was perfection.  I was especially happy to see Dan really flying (or at least really using his wings) in the comic.  And the lighting was great too!
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Gamma

Apologies. It has been sometime since I've actually applied the terminology and equations. I could do the basic math, but nothing like calculus.
I actually was thinking acceleration but I misspoke. Common when I'm in a slight rush.
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Dagardo

Quote from: Gamma on September 28, 2008, 10:12:11 PM
Fi moving at 9.8 m/s, sounds like fun.
If I knew the mass we could see how much force he applied to Dan's cranium/neck. Actually we could do it from weight, get mass by extrapolation and then get force. Or use a direct conversion formula. 
Include friction variables and we could even see how much force Dan's wings resisted while descending. :)
Quote from: Naldru on September 28, 2008, 10:25:12 PM
Er, don't you mean that Fi was accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second
I'm curios to know how you know how fast Fi was accelerating? And about How Dan fells about losing those few feathers when Fi landed on him.
Quote from: King Of Hearts on September 28, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
but if we spread butter over Dan's back?
Why? Are we gonna eat him...? I don't wanna hear it, you know who you are. I know "over his back" was said, but I know how people are, they never miss a chance. And "over his back" could very well mean something completely different than what was meant.

AndersW

Quote from: Dagardo on September 28, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on September 28, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
but if we spread butter over Dan's back?

Why? Are we gonna eat him...? I don't wanna hear it, you know who you are. I know "over his back" was said, but I know how people are, they never miss a chance. And "over his back" could very well mean something completely different than what was meant.

Does he land butter side up or butter side down.

Dagardo

Quote from: AndersW on September 28, 2008, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 28, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on September 28, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
but if we spread butter over Dan's back?

Why? Are we gonna eat him...? I don't wanna hear it, you know who you are. I know "over his back" was said, but I know how people are, they never miss a chance. And "over his back" could very well mean something completely different than what was meant.

Does he land butter side up or butter side down.

Depends, which do you prefer?

Naldru

I guess the problem is that we really don't know how strong the gravity is in Furrae.  We can assume that's within an order of magnitude of Earth since larger variations would cause differences in the anatomy of the various inhabitants.

Calculation of acceleration and velocity would require time references, and we really don't know how long a span of time is covered by the images.

Quote from: Jack McSlay on September 28, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
You know what they say about cats landing on their feet. at least when they're conscious, that is
Actually, I saw an article that they did best for a range of heights starting at about two or three foot.  At lower elevations, they don't have time to turn around.

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By the way, if forewarned is forearmed, does that mean that four armed is forewarned.  If so, we should check with the four armed dancer to see what will happen.
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Lego3400

In an Ideal word, all objects fall at the same rate. That's how they knew how fast Fi should have been accelerating. Friction with the Air (Wind resistance) is only thing that would have slowed him down.

Dagardo

Yeah, but I wouldn't exactly call anything in this world "ideal"

Angel

 :giggle Bweeheeheeheehee... I needed a giggle fit. I hadn't had one in a while. Thanks.

Also, the shadows in this comic make everything look really pretty.
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Pheonix-IV

Quote from: Naldru on September 28, 2008, 10:25:12 PM
Er, don't you mean that Fi was accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second

Before you say I'm too picky, I have seen worse from engineering students in college.  I especially liked the one who got the wrong answer using the wrong method, and wanted to know if he could get partial credit.  (Even if he had been using the right method, he would have gotten the wrong answer since his math was wrong.)  I just hope that he isn't now designing the planes that we fly.

Well half the 'laws of aerodynamics' aren't actually right anyway, and the other half are just right enough to tell us that we don't actually know why aeroplanes fly, so i wouldn't worry too much if he's designing aircraft.


It's also reasonable to assume that Furrae would have the same gravity (in the natural parts at any rate) as Earth, hence why we know that Fi would have been accelerating at approximately 9.8 meters per second per second, we don't know what his terminal velocity is though.

Madmann135

Dan got to show off his skills and look all badassey while doing it only to have it ruined by his new tag-along.
Could be worse... Mab could have decided to come along and landed on his head with her head.  I doubt his opinion of being burried under girls would apply then.

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Slowtini

Quote from: Dagardo on September 28, 2008, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: AndersW on September 28, 2008, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 28, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on September 28, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
but if we spread butter over Dan's back?

Why? Are we gonna eat him...? I don't wanna hear it, you know who you are. I know "over his back" was said, but I know how people are, they never miss a chance. And "over his back" could very well mean something completely different than what was meant.

Does he land butter side up or butter side down.

Depends, which do you prefer?


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Mwa

I guess having wings and all kinda helps with air manoeuvrability. :B

mopman

A moment of grace followed by a bannana peel , gotta love the classics.
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Kipiru

Sooo, Dan lands all Batman style and Fi land all sack-of-potatoes style, nope, noting wrong with the laws of physics there. Just classic comedy at its best. So all of you rocket scientist  put away the calculators and just have a laugh  ~_^

llearch n'n'daCorna

You've got to wonder...
... is Fi using the same gravity Dan is using? ;-]
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Valynth

Quote from: Kipiru on September 29, 2008, 02:39:00 AM
Sooo, Dan lands all Batman style and Fi land all sack-of-potatoes style, nope, noting wrong with the laws of physics there. Just classic comedy at its best. So all of you rocket scientist  put away the calculators and just have a laugh  ~_^

The only time they've laughed is when they figured out how to make 8008 on said calculators.

*is a math nerd and thus going to hell for that one.*
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Jairus

Quote from: Valynth on September 29, 2008, 02:49:01 AM
Quote from: Kipiru on September 29, 2008, 02:39:00 AM
Sooo, Dan lands all Batman style and Fi land all sack-of-potatoes style, nope, noting wrong with the laws of physics there. Just classic comedy at its best. So all of you rocket scientist  put away the calculators and just have a laugh  ~_^

The only time they've laughed is when they figured out how to make 8008 on said calculators.

*is a math nerd and thus going to hell for that one.*
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I just cannot emphasize how amazingly cool Dan looks for that one moment.
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LionHeart

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 29, 2008, 02:48:19 AM
You've got to wonder...
... is Fi using the same gravity Dan is using? ;-]
Probably not.

Dan is using Heroic physics, and Fi, as the designated sidekick/comedy relief, is basically using the Rule of Funny.
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Kipiru

Quote from: Jairus on September 29, 2008, 02:51:20 AM

I just cannot emphasize how amazingly cool Dan looks for that one moment.

The whole Angle of Wrath look really suits him! But so does the whole crushed-by-a-flying-squirel-thingy look! That's why Dan is the Man!

AmigaDragon

Quote from: Lorien on September 28, 2008, 10:40:45 PM
I was especially happy to see Dan really flying (or at least really using his wings) in the comic.

Nope, not flying, if anything, they were spread enough to slow his descent. And most of his manoeuvring (flips) probably had little to do with the wings.
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Zedd

Damn you Newton, I told you not to make that law so painful!