In case people didn't notice, Amber created a new link on her frontpage next to the Abel story update for the Clan leader update.
And it features Kish'Ta - and it says even her clan suspects she was a bat originally !!
Does that mean you don't have to start of as a Cubi, to become a Cubi Clan leader ?
I'm so confused now!
:erk
Freakin' pulled her face off!
Good into for the "nightmare clan."
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:00:47 PM
And it features Kish'Ta - and it says even her clan suspects she was a bat originally !!
Does that mean you don't have to start of as a Cubi, to become a Cubi Clan leader ?
Species, not race. There's a difference in Amber's world. (Beings, Demons, Angels, Were, Cubi etc., all races. Canine, feline, rat, bat, all species.)
And Kish'Ta is very much suitably disturbing. Cuz that's just....eeek.
That's what i mean ... if she wasn't a cubi to begin with, how did she become a cubi clan leader ?
What? No! You just...
Agh. You just mixed them up.
She was always of the Cubi race. It's that people think that her species used to be bat, as right now, you can clearly see she is some kind of canine. This means that she's really gotten into the Cubi ability of shapeshifting, and like Envy from Fullmetal Alchemist, forgot or just doesn't use her original form anymore.
Ahh .. ok, my bad.
I think I got it now. :)
On a sidenote, I thought Fa'Lina was old .. but Kish'Ta is 24000 years old !
I wonder which cubi is the oldest ?
Heck, might not even be a clan leader.
(though it seems most likely)
that was a large hit to creepiness meter. And as disturbing as that is, I have to ask... does she have a shelf of faces she can switch between?
She pulled her Face Off!
And wow, 24000, that is old. I mean, compared to that, tri-wings like Fa'lina at just over 9000 and Daryil at just over 4000 are mere neophytes.
And the best bit is that the face is winking at you. :)
Wow...Do you think she changes faces for holidays like Halloween?
Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 04:31:29 PM
Wow...Do you think she changes faces for holidays like Halloween?
Halloween is probably one of the best holidays for fear affinity clans, so yeah, probably.
For some reason, a detachable car radio (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7788882) was the first thing that came to my mind...
You can't steal me mister, I'm carrying my face with me here in my purse all the time... wait...Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 04:33:04 PM
Halloween is probably one of the best holidays for fear affinity clans, so yeah, probably.
<OT> I could imagine it's actually their least favourite holiday. Think about it: When would you freaked out most by people pulling scary stunts right in front of you? On Halloween when everyone and their dog is walking around as ghosts/zombies/etc or on any other day of the year when it would come completely out of the blue? </OT>
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:07:23 PM
That's what i mean ... if she wasn't a cubi to begin with, how did she become a cubi clan leader ?
That's actually an interesting thought, though. I agree, until we know more it's safest to assume that she was a full-fledged 'Cubus from the start. Then again, it would be interesting if she actually were a half-breed. Remember that Demo 101 (http://missmab.com/Demo/HG02.php) said, most half breeds actually only manifest in their early twenties. That means, not just Abel but a whole lot of other people might have had a "former life" before they actually started to live and act like Cubi. Maybe our clan leader belonged to them.
"Is it just me or is she still hot?" ~The Bard; The Bard's Tale
The above quote pritty much sums up my reaction. I probbably would have been a Goth growing up if we actually had that sub-culture around here... :magus1
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 04:22:57 PM
She pulled her Face Off!
And wow, 24000, that is old. I mean, compared to that, tri-wings like Fa'lina at just over 9000 and Daryil at just over 4000 are mere neophytes.
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off
she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
ps
if anyone is interested here is Ambers pic of just the leader
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
ps
if anyone is interested here is Ambers pic of just the leader
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/
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Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 04:31:29 PM
Wow...Do you think she changes faces for holidays like Halloween?
Probably whenever she gets bored.
I love the slate-grey, leathery wings. I'm not entirely sure why, but I do...
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 04:22:57 PM
She pulled her Face Off!
She probably isn't vulnerable to dying by normal means anymore. That said, it could just be her appearance in a dream.
QuoteAnd wow, 24000, that is old. I mean, compared to that, tri-wings like Fa'lina at just over 9000 and Daryil at just over 4000 are mere neophytes.
Daryil? Tri-winged? :erk
Cyra stopped being able to have children when she ascended. Destania is about 7000. Therefore Cyra must have ascended less than 7000 years ago.
I've heard that the oldest 'Cubi is 100'000, but whether they are still tri-winged or whether they have ascended to some form higher still is a good question.
Thanks, TGH. *Saved and Wallpapered* :kruger
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Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood so you'd need to have an acount to veiw it
I guess technically, a cubi could grow very old, without ever becoming a tri-wing.
Basically, they could change clan every now and then, and just stay a "two-wing", while just draining enough soul energy to keep death at door.
I mean, just because it's possible to become a tri-wing doesn't necessarily mean you would want to be one.
Just ask Fa'Lina if she would like to be able to have children again ?
She'd probably say yes in a heartbeat.
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Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood
Nope, I'm not.
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off
she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 18, 2010, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off
she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!
I just realised why the stiches are there it's where she had to cut the suit to let her butt wings out
Oh and there is a zipper at the neck
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 18, 2010, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off
she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!
Alternatively she's *not* wearing someone elses skin suit, and is wearing her *own* skinsuit ... aka, she morphed herself to look like a wolf, then cut it off and stitched it back on again.
That's possibly even creepier than if it's someone elses. :D
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:24:54 PM
And the best bit is that the face is winking at you. :)
I noticed... :erk
And I just realised that since she's apparently wearing someone else's actual pelt, we can't see where her marking might be. It could be in the same place as on Cyra and Siar: was there ever agreement that a Clan Leader's marking had to be over the heart?
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 18, 2010, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:24:54 PM
And the best bit is that the face is winking at you. :)
I noticed... :erk
And I just realised that since she's apparently wearing someone else's actual pelt, we can't see where her marking might be. It could be in the same place as on Cyra and Siar: was there ever agreement that a Clan Leader's marking had to be over the heart?
No, it can be anywhere on the body.
I remember Dan and Abel talking about it, and when Abel pulled off Dan's pants he saw wildy's marking.
But appearently it appears after you use magic or some such.
I'll see if i can find the strip again.
Edit :
Here it is. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_550.php) :)
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:50:41 PM
You are not allowed to view this image.
Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood
Nope, I'm not.
Same here, and I see no reason for me to join sites
just so I can follow a link.
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Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
Nope, I'm not.
Same here, and I see no reason for me to join sites just so I can follow a link.
well it's to prevent complaints so people can only see the more adult pieces if the want to. and thus can't realy complain if they stumble on something tey don't like
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 18, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 04:22:57 PM
She pulled her Face Off!
She probably isn't vulnerable to dying by normal means anymore. That said, it could just be her appearance in a dream.
QuoteAnd wow, 24000, that is old. I mean, compared to that, tri-wings like Fa'lina at just over 9000 and Daryil at just over 4000 are mere neophytes.
Daryil? Tri-winged? :erk
Yeah, not Tri-Wings, I meant clan founders, which usually have to be several millenniums old in order to have enough power to create a symbol.
You don't need three sets of wings to do that, I think.
All the clan founders I know of so far have been quite old:
Fa'lina - 9000+
Cyra - 7000+
Daryil - 4000+
Jyraneth - ?? ??
Qaisyne - ?? ??
Zalantare - ?? ??
But still, Kish'Ta beats all of them at 24000 (unless the unknown ones are older).
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 18, 2010, 05:01:35 PM
And I just realised that since she's apparently wearing someone else's actual pelt, we can't see where her marking might be. It could be in the same place as on Cyra and Siar: was there ever agreement that a Clan Leader's marking had to be over the heart?
I dunno how easily I'll be able to find it, but Amber did say that the vixen Tri-wing from the Calendar should
in theory have had the marking over her chest, but she came up with that idea later.
I do think that the fan-made clans shouldn't really be included in the list, if we're debating on age. x3 That'd just make things confusing. While it's fun to create them, yes, I wouldn't include them.
I certainly can't wait to see the rest of the clans, though. I'm still left wondering how she'd keep pieces of flesh and a face alive enough to wear, though apparently most anything is possible around powerful-enough Creatures.
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Beautiful image aside, I adore the idea that this clan's adapted themselves to work with technology. That's awkward wording; what I mean to say is they're using the after-effects of technology as a vessel for horror films and imagery to feed off the nightmares they create.
That's just great to think about to me for some reason. :)
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
I have *no* idea.
That's why I ask.
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
I have *no* idea.
That's why I ask.
Well, Tri-wing itself is pretty powerful.
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
That is unclear. There have been debates about it before.
Intuitively I'd say that it's the act of ascension which makes children impossible, as 'Cubi become more ethereal and less mortal as they become more powerful.
The exact link between ascension and creating a clan is unclear and Amber has implied that she wants to keep it that way to avoid some kind of plot spoiler. She has said that it's possible to create a clan without ascending, by which I presume she means you can branch off an existing clan if you know what you're doing. This is just an educated guess, though.
Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
I've heard tri-wings can become gods. That was on the old forum, though, and I'm not 100% sure it's still canon.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 18, 2010, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 18, 2010, 05:01:35 PM
And I just realised that since she's apparently wearing someone else's actual pelt, we can't see where her marking might be. It could be in the same place as on Cyra and Siar: was there ever agreement that a Clan Leader's marking had to be over the heart?
I dunno how easily I'll be able to find it, but Amber did say that the vixen Tri-wing from the Calendar should in theory have had the marking over her chest, but she came up with that idea later.
Wow, really? So when you ascend to tri-wing status your clan symbol moves over to your heart? :erk
Also, wearing someone else's skin is technically a way to hide your clan symbol. Just shape-shift to a skinless state that could fit into the integumentary organ you stole and have it stitched on.
But no matter how you slice it, that sounds so wrong and disturbing in so many ways. *retches*
Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
No, I think cubis can transcend their tri-wing status to a more ethereal God-form, but I may be going by fan fictions as well.
And yes, I'm pretty sure that cubi can found clans without being tri-winged. After all, that is the best way to grow one's clan after founding it. It would kind of suck to found a clan and then not be able to grow it because your sterile from your power.
In fan fictions people have been creating clans founded by just two-winged cubis that were old enough, experienced enough, and powerful enough to alter their own symbols into new ones.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Wow, really? So when you ascend to tri-wing status your clan symbol moves over to your heart? :erk
No idea. For all I know, you get two of them.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Wow, really? So when you ascend to tri-wing status your clan symbol moves over to your heart? :erk
Actualy I think It it would make more sense as a founder condition
since to found your own clan you'd have your own symbol. And what ever ritual used to found a clan and replace your old symbol would place the new symbol on the chest
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 18, 2010, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 05:36:17 PMWow, really? So when you ascend to tri-wing status your clan symbol moves over to your heart? :erk
No idea. For all I know, you get two of them.
Hearts or symbols ? :D
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Wow, really? So when you ascend to tri-wing status your clan symbol moves over to your heart? :erk
Actualy I think It it would make more sense as a founder condition
since to found your own clan you'd have your own symbol. And what ever ritual used to found a clan and replace your old symbol would place the new symbol on the chest
Huh, that would actually make some sense.
Then again, in this strip (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_057.php), we see that a symbol can be changed without moving it to a new location, so the ritual of forcibly changing one's symbol to branch a clan could go either way for the one doing the branching.
EDIT:
Also, there are definitely ways to branch a clan through subterfuge without being a tri-wing, such as through magical tattoo, painting additional lines over an already existing symbol to make it seem different.
And I think Daryil founded his clan without being a tri-wing just through a string of bizarre magical biological experiments, but his past is murkier than molasses, so only Tapewolf can say for sure how he pulled it off.
All I know is that it was so different from the conventional means of founding a clan that most other cubi refuse to even acknowledge Daryil Clan's existence.
You know now that I think about it I'm tempted to write a story specifically so I could describe the ritual to found a clan. It might be fun
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 06:11:26 PM
You know now that I think about it I'm tempted to write a story specifically so I could describe the ritual to found a clan. It might be fun
I always imagined the rituals of things such as cubification of a being or the founding of a new clan to involve a lot of magical diagrams in curved and circular shapes, but that may be because I'm such a huge fan of Full Metal Alchemist. :D
EDIT:
BTW, where did the fact come from that a cubi only has heads on the tips of their wing tentacles if their clan founder is still alive and tri-winged?
I just woke up. I think I'm in love.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
I always imagined the rituals of things such as cubification of a being or the founding of a new clan to involve a lot of magical diagrams in curved and circular shapes, but that may be because I'm such a huge fan of Full Metal Alchemist. :D
It's funny you should mention this whole diagram stuff.
It's really something that did evolve when mathematitiancs met old school alchemists and Christian Kabbalah in the 16th century.
Just take a man like
John Dee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee) who tried to make a
Seal of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_Dee%27s_Seal_of_God.jpg) using math and symbolism!
We sorta take it for granted in fantasy literature nowadays, but just think ow how strange the whole notion is to begin with ?
Power from scribblings on a piece of paper ?
Preposterus ! Really !
Since the stitches and zipper were pointed out I started looking really close.
Just to throw the wrench in on top...
She's got 2 rows of teeth in there; maybe she was a shark. :U
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
BTW, where did the fact come from that a cubi only has heads on the tips of their wing tentacles if their clan founder is still alive and tri-winged?
The wiki is there for a reason >:3
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,3268.msg141352.html#msg141352
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,3268.msg141367.html#msg141367
I'm loath to talk about my stuff here too much, but to answer your earlier question, Daryil's unorthodox methods are partly a frig to help protect me if the relevant mechanisms were later revealed to be different in DMFA proper.
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
I always imagined the rituals of things such as cubification of a being or the founding of a new clan to involve a lot of magical diagrams in curved and circular shapes, but that may be because I'm such a huge fan of Full Metal Alchemist. :D
It's funny you should mention this whole diagram stuff.
It's really something that did evolve when mathematitiancs met old school alchemists and Christian Kabbalah in the 16th century.
Just take a man like John Dee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee) who tried to make a Seal of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_Dee%27s_Seal_of_God.jpg) using math and symbolism!
The Monas Hieroglyphica looks like it could be a clan symbol, and it's the title of book, so that's a book in real life that probably looks like it's been written by a cubi clan. xD
But still, the fact that most clan symbols look like some sort of glyph would tie into the need to use diagrams to perform cubi related rituals.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 06:37:02 PM
the fact that most clan symbols look like some sort of glyph would tie into the need to use diagrams to perform cubi related rituals.
Unless the glyphs are treated like the old viking runes, where each rune had power in itself.
Just runes and symbols like Thors hammer, also being the rune for Thor.
And also being the symbol for strength, and craftsmanship.
But no diagrams was used.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 18, 2010, 06:35:57 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
BTW, where did the fact come from that a cubi only has heads on the tips of their wing tentacles if their clan founder is still alive and tri-winged?
The wiki is there for a reason >:3
Thanks for the info, Tapewolf. I'll be sure to read the wiki more often. I have been increasing lately to reference the fan-created clans.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 18, 2010, 06:35:57 PM
Daryil's unorthodox methods are partly a frig to help protect me if the relevant mechanisms were later revealed to be different in DMFA proper.
Yes, and that's why I'm going to have my non-tri-wing Gemini mythos cubi found hir clan by studying some of Daryil's techniques, for the exact same reason. >:3
TGH, you can attempt to write your own fan-fiction about how to found a cubi clan, but I doubt it will correct.
I would suggest just waiting until Amber reveals the correct method to us...about 500,000 years from now, if not longer. :P
QuoteHer age is over 24,000!
How old is fear?As old as the beginning of complex creatures with brains. Don't instincts come packaged with the patented Flight or Fight system? That there is the foundation for the emotion we call fear. It's in your brain, controlling your doubt, or your subconscious pooling into your nightmares. Imagine it skittering in the thousands inside your fleshy brain and eating at reason and courage with vicious claws until it bursts out of your skin and abject cowardice takes over.
I'm surprised the Kish'Ta didn't exist earlier. (She's also kind of cute. I mean look at her face! :3)
I'm excited only because this is one of the very few times Amber will ever draw squicky things like pulling bloody red internal organs out of a characters mouth, much to my eternal delight. I'm a very bad person.
Quote from: Magic on January 18, 2010, 07:21:02 PM
I'm excited only because this is one of the very few times Amber will ever draw squicky things like pulling bloody red internal organs out of a characters mouth, much to my eternal delight. I'm a very bad person.
And you say you don't do the evil doctor thing anymore. >:3 I wonder how you were when you did.
I would still giggle madly and crazily if all of Amber's Posts were to create confusion and misinform people of how her world actually works. :3
Though, If we're relying on fan fiction to determine who cubi are made to be. . . . .
I say clans are created when Chemical X gets added to the Kool-Aid on suicide night. :3
It seems we caught her in her birthday suit and boy is her face sure red.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 07:02:09 PM
TGH, you can attempt to write your own fan-fiction about how to found a cubi clan, but I doubt it will correct.
I would suggest just waiting until Amber reveals the correct method to us...about 500,000 years from now, if not longer. :P
Oh I know that, but it seems like fun
i'd say she was off her face. >:3
Few artists are able to make me spit-take broccoli through sight alone. Kudos, Amber.
Quote from: Tycoon on January 18, 2010, 08:49:06 PM
Few artists are able to make me spit-take broccoli through sight alone. Kudos, Amber.
Yeah, like
when briggs described Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_715.php), that made me snort cola. :D
Have you seen her age? I think that technically classifies as a face lift.
I just noticed this.... she's doing the best *facepalms* Ever.
Remember, vampires are emo wannabes here, compared to Kish'Ta and the Nightmare clan.
Heh. I like how her clan is putting their dream traveling expertise (and shape shifting) to work in the movie business. Heh. Heh.
In that outfit, she's a hairy Kish'Ta...
Not many people can have a face-to-face with themselves without a mirror.
She looks rather foxy to me. And to think, she's even older than Fa'lina.
that's metal, it's camping, it's in-tents. wow, she puled her face off, i don't think they could possibly make a scenario in which that doesn't result in everyone in the room immediately freaking out.
Heck I've seen worse, so seeing her pull her face off wouldn't freak me out if I saw it in person.
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Quote from: Techcubi on January 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Oh? I thought that being a Tri-Wing and a Clan Founder was connected ?
So I guess they could be Tri-wings without being Clan Founders/leaders and thus still being able to bear children ?
Makes me wonder .. could there be Quad-Wings as well ?
Isn't Tri-wing as high as it gets with Cubi?
No, I think cubis can transcend their tri-wing status to a more ethereal God-form, but I may be going by fan fictions as well.
And yes, I'm pretty sure that cubi can found clans without being tri-winged. After all, that is the best way to grow one's clan after founding it. It would kind of suck to found a clan and then not be able to grow it because your sterile from your power.
In fan fictions people have been creating clans founded by just two-winged cubis that were old enough, experienced enough, and powerful enough to alter their own symbols into new ones.
Actually when Cubi become clan leaders they lose the ability to have children (http://missmab.com/Cast/falina.php).
First, notice how the Current Status says "Kish'Ta and her clan are doing well." Really?!? There are only 84 members of her clan. That seems like a pretty tiny number considering the number of being out there, and the zillions of Adventurers that would love to have a cubi head mounted on the wall. Uh, maybe not hers though.
Also, I agree that the image is SCARY! I mean, look at it! Female body and male head! I would have been screaming bloody murder even before the face came off!
One thing that people have alluded to is how to start your own clan. I'm pretty sure that's was Aniz was trying to do (or at least grow it to the point he could be a powerful Clan Leader). Fa'Lina put a stop to it here, noting that this was not the first time she's done so: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_015.php
Quote from: iceick on January 18, 2010, 11:44:10 PM
Actually when Cubi become clan leaders they lose the ability to have children (http://missmab.com/Cast/falina.php).
Fa'lina is sterile because she's a tri-wing.
A cubi can create a clan without being a tri-wing, but the main stream way of creating a clan has not yet been revealed, so we don't know how much power and experience it takes to do so.
Besides, phrased exactly as it is, your statement is incorrect because an ordinary, still virile cubi can become leader of a clan by taking it over from the original founder, usually due to founder expiring or becoming indisposed in some way.
Quote from: DMFA Cast: Fa'lina-History
As a clan founder, Fa'Lina was no longer able to have children of her own...
From this it suggests that founders can no longer have children, but they have their children before becoming leaders.
Quote from: DMFA Cast: Fa'lina-Quirks/Fun Facts
Despite being a founder, Fa'Lina never seems to show her third wings in public.
And this suggests that all founders have third wings.
:necro
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 01:17:10 AM
And this suggests that all founders have third wings.
No. This suggests Fa'Lina has 3 sets of wings, and as her cast page shows, she does. She just hides them.
Also, just to point this out..,. the feet don't match the "suit" either <.<
My response to this update? "GAH! WTF IS UP WITH THAT?!"
Seriously, that is one of the most disturbing things I've seen on this site.
Quote from: Wanderer on January 19, 2010, 01:35:51 AM
My response to this update? "GAH! WTF IS UP WITH THAT?!"
Seriously, that is one of the most disturbing things I've seen on this site.
And it will likely stay that way. This pushes amber's self imposed PG rating and likely breaks it, which she has only otherwise done for Abel's story.
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 19, 2010, 12:54:29 AM
Female body and male head!
What makes you think the head's male? :confused
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 19, 2010, 01:39:12 AM
And it will likely stay that way.
Maybe not for long. Remember, in the rant Amber didn't say Kish'ta was the creepi
est of the clan leaders...
<hides behind sofa, peeks through fingers>
I wonder, will this mini-arc settle the question of whether all clan leaders/founders are (or become) giants, or does appearing like that just tickle Cyra's fancy?
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 19, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 19, 2010, 01:39:12 AM
And it will likely stay that way.
Maybe not for long. Remember, in the rant Amber didn't say Kish'ta was the creepiest of the clan leaders...
<hides behind sofa, peeks through fingers>
I wonder, will this mini-arc settle the question of whether all clan leaders/founders are (or become) giants, or does appearing like that just tickle Cyra's fancy?
That's exactly what I meant. By her being the creepiest she's bound to remain the creepiest thing on the site.
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 19, 2010, 01:32:45 AM
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 01:17:10 AM
And this suggests that all founders have third wings.
No. This suggests Fa'Lina has 3 sets of wings, and as her cast page shows, she does. She just hides them.
Did you miss the "Despite being a founder" part in my post. That's were I based my conclusion from that all clan leaders must have 3 sets of wings.
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 19, 2010, 01:32:45 AM
Also, just to point this out..,. the feet don't match the "suit" either <.<
Yes, her hands, feet and wings are not part of the suit, but part of her real form.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on January 19, 2010, 01:41:48 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 19, 2010, 12:54:29 AM
Female body and male head!
What makes you think the head's male? :confused
Upon second look, there is a hint of long eyelashes on the head. I guess I didn't see them because of the hand that's almost in the way. Long eyelashes are the univeral furry way to show femininity on a noggin.
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 19, 2010, 12:54:29 AM
First, notice how the Current Status says "Kish'Ta and her clan are doing well." Really?!? There are only 84 members of her clan. That seems like a pretty tiny number considering the number of being out there, and the zillions of Adventurers that would love to have a cubi head mounted on the wall. Uh, maybe not hers though.
Someone I know asked Amber how big clans usually were. The answer was that a healthy clan was normally about 20-60 members or something like that. So unless you compare them with Siar clan (which had around 2000 members at one point) they
are doing well.
Remember that there's supposedly about 30'000 'Cubi in the whole world.
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
Yeah, like when briggs described Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_715.php), that made me snort cola. :D
Briggs... & Stratton?
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 03:17:46 AM
Someone I know asked Amber how big clans usually were. The answer was that a healthy clan was normally about 20-60 members or something like that. So unless you compare them with Siar clan (which had around 2000 members at one point) they are doing well.
Remember that there's supposedly about 30'000 'Cubi in the whole world.
OK. Twelve active clans. Average of say 40 per clan. That makes 480 out of the 30,000. What am I missing? Are >98% of cubi associated with no clan or clans with dead clan leaders?
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 19, 2010, 03:31:28 AM
OK. Twelve active clans. Average of say 40 per clan. That makes 480 out of the 30,000. What am I missing? Are >98% of cubi associated with no clan or clans with dead clan leaders?
We don't know how the distribution works, but we do know that there are about 12 clans with Tri-Wing leaders and that there have only been 200-400 Tri-Wings in the 100'000 year history of the race (depending on whether you take Amber's sickly figure or Mink's figure. Also 30'000 came from sick Amber so it may be wrong/changed since).
So yes, most of them are clans with dead Tri-wings, or normal two-winged leaders (i.e. a non-Founder is de-facto head of the clan). I'm not sure you can have a clanless 'Cubi.
Well it was noted that there are over 400 clan leaders that have died (http://missmab.com/Demo/Leader01.php), but it doesn't necessarily mean that all cubi in those clans have died out. For example Able's clan leader is dead, but his clan is still around.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 03:38:30 AM
Well it was noted that there are over 400 clan leaders that have died (http://missmab.com/Demo/Leader01.php), but it doesn't necessarily mean that all cubi in those clans have died out. For example Able's clan leader is dead, but his clan is still around.
True. To make things worse I remember reading that some clans have (or have had) multiple Tri-wings in them, which made the whole 'creating a clan' business even more murky.
Don't have time to find the citation, though - must go to work. Aary's Journal mentioned it IIRC but take that with a pinch of salt. I'm sure I've seen a more trusted source (i.e. Amber)
Don't know about anyone else but I think she's dead cool personally. I mean whats a little de-ttachable face amongst friends and coworkers?
Quote from: Feather Dancer on January 19, 2010, 03:51:10 AM
Don't know about anyone else but I think she's dead cool personally. I mean whats a little de-ttachable face amongst friends and coworkers?
Murdering someone just so that you can skin them and hollow out their head as a mask is something I'd consider a tad antisocial. Though to be fair, we don't know if this is what she actually did, or even if it's real at all and not just a nightmare she's created.
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 19, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
I wonder, will this mini-arc settle the question of whether all clan leaders/founders are (or become) giants, or does appearing like that just tickle Cyra's fancy?
And Siar. I don't know, but I doubt they
have to. If you want to impress or intimidate your children, giant is the way to go. If you want them to think of you as a friend and equal, you'd probably assume a normal 2-wing form most of the time - accurate communication is only possible between equals.
Of course, cubi's feed off of emotions so killing their victims would be rather pointless, especially since they can shapeshift to make thier apperance change (even as much as being able to take off thier face), or go directly into someones dreams where they have more control over thier appearance.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 04:36:23 AM
Of course, cubi's feed off of emotions so killing their victims would be rather pointless, especially since they can shapeshift to make thier apperance change (even as much as being able to take off thier face), or go directly into someones dreams where they have more control over thier appearance.
This is quite correct. However, I don't think she needs to feed anymore - I've heard that Tri-Wings may generate their own energy. And in any case it doesn't stop her from killing someone and/or eating their soul because it's fun or because they annoyed her in some way...
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 05:44:53 AM
And in any case it doesn't stop her from killing someone and/or eating their soul because it's fun or because they annoyed her in some way...
Heh, heh, heh, so very true.
EDIT:
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 05:44:53 AM
However, I don't think she needs to feed anymore - I've heard that Tri-Wings may generate their own energy.
So Fa'lina only feeds on emotions (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_552.php) for fun?
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Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:50:41 PM
You are not allowed to view this image.
Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood
Nope, I'm not.
Same here, and I see no reason for me to join sites just so I can follow a link.
And its not as if some one could post it somewhere else *cough*
photobucket *cough*
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 05:50:54 AM
So Fa'lina only feeds on emotions (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_552.php) for fun?
I'd say that's sensing, not necessarily feeding.
opps double post.
:double
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 19, 2010, 06:01:14 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 18, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 04:50:41 PM
You are not allowed to view this image.
Are you a member of FA?
The image is rated mature, probably for the blood
Nope, I'm not.
Same here, and I see no reason for me to join sites just so I can follow a link.
And its not as if some one could post it somewhere else *cough* photobucket *cough*
I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 06:05:57 AM
I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.
Quote pyramid!
If you mean FA, there's a setting in the control panel somewhere when you log in to switch the mature filter on and off. If it's on, you'll get the message.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 06:08:54 AM
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 06:05:57 AM
I regisered to that site, but I still get that message.
Quote pyramid!
If you mean FA, there's a setting in the control panel somewhere when you log in to switch the mature filter on and off. If it's on, you'll get the message.
Ah, now can see it, thanks. Wow you can see more detail in this one. I'd like to...
*The rest of this post has been filtered out due to the PG rating.*
AAH.
AAH.
D8
Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.
Quote from: Lucheek on January 19, 2010, 07:18:49 AM
Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.
Yes, it came as a bit of a surprise. Honestly? I don't know whether it's still accurate. But we may get a better idea of this as the leader overview goes on.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 06:02:47 AM
I'd say that's sensing, not necessarily feeding.
Ink was feeding. Fa'Lina? No idea.
I'm afraid I can't look at that for too long. The whole face-pulling-off thing is too creepy. :<
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 19, 2010, 03:27:44 AM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
Yeah, like when briggs described Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_715.php), that made me snort cola. :D
Briggs... & Stratton?
LOL ... you spotted it.
Muffin for you!
:D
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 04:18:02 AM
Quote from: SpottedKitty on January 19, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
I wonder, will this mini-arc settle the question of whether all clan leaders/founders are (or become) giants, or does appearing like that just tickle Cyra's fancy?
And Siar. I don't know, but I doubt they have to. If you want to impress or intimidate your children, giant is the way to go. If you want them to think of you as a friend and equal, you'd probably assume a normal 2-wing form most of the time - accurate communication is only possible between equals.
Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that. :)
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 07:23:27 AM
Quote from: Lucheek on January 19, 2010, 07:18:49 AM
Also... hmm, so an 84 member clan is a pretty good size? Seems smaller than what I would expect.
Yes, it came as a bit of a surprise. Honestly? I don't know whether it's still accurate. But we may get a better idea of this as the leader overview goes on.
Well look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
The times of huge amounts of children has gone down, as life expectancy has gone up.
Today I think we could not muster more then 50 people or so.
Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.
Unless they have reason for having a lot of children, Aniz is not the standard I'm guessing.
And then some of them gets slain as well.
And if they have a founder, powers derived from the founder might give them an edge there. :)
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that. :)
Yeah. She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much. For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit >:3
QuoteWell look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.
Depends what their sex drive is like, really. 'Cubi in DMFA look attractive, are stuck in their mid 20s for eons and if Kria is anything to go by have a reputation for seducing people.
Theoretically, yes - they'd limit their population. In practice, we have no idea.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that. :)
Yeah. She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much. For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit >:3
Do we know wether or not Krish'Ta is a Giant or not ?
Edit :
On a sidenote, size doesn't always matter,
but it does make you more imposing (http://zebragirl.keenspot.com/d/20000623.html).
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
Well look at your own family, what's the biggest family gathering you have been to ?
Personally, my biggest extended family gathering was around 112 people, and most of those are dead due to old age now.
Liken that to a race that can become immortal, and most of them probably only have 2-5 kids for a cubi couple.
Depends what their sex drive is like, really. 'Cubi in DMFA look attractive, are stuck in their mid 20s for eons and if Kria is anything to go by have a reputation for seducing people.
Theoretically, yes - they'd limit their population. In practice, we have no idea.
Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.
Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy. :)
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
Do we know wether or not Krish'Ta is a Giant or not ?
Like I say, it's probably something they can control.
Quote
Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.
AFAIK it's intended for adults rather than teens, but your point about the angst stands.
Quote from: Lucheek on January 19, 2010, 07:18:49 AM
AAH.
AAH.
D8
LMAO, wow your fear was delicious.
Quote from: Eon on January 19, 2010, 08:11:29 AM
I'm afraid I can't look at that for too long. The whole face-pulling-off thing is too creepy. :<
Heck, I can see that as only a minor detail in the whole picture. In the long run though, you don't have to worry about compatition.
Quote from: Anker Steadfast link=topic=6895.msg309465#msg309465Really, I'm guessing there's a definite limit as to how many times you'd want to go trough the angst laden cubi "teenage years" as a parent. Fa'Lina not withstanding, she's a special case. Heck, that might be the main reason why most cubi parents send their kids to the Academy ... that, and less laundry.
Depends on whether your affinity is angst or not. Just think, having kids just so you can feed off their angst. :mowwink
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 06:27:09 PMJust take a man like John Dee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee) who tried to make a Seal of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_Dee%27s_Seal_of_God.jpg) using math and symbolism!
But mathematics and symbolism
are both magical.
Srsly.
Quote from: SquirrelWizard on January 18, 2010, 09:24:31 PMHave you seen her age? I think that technically classifies as a face lift.
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on January 18, 2010, 09:30:08 PMI just noticed this.... she's doing the best *facepalms* Ever.
So ... Many ... Bad ... Puns ...
;)
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Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!
Alternatively she's *not* wearing someone elses skin suit, and is wearing her *own* skinsuit ... aka, she morphed herself to look like a wolf, then cut it off and stitched it back on again.
That's possibly even creepier than if it's someone elses. :D
And more appropriate. Remember:
:shapeshifters
I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them. I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh. Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added. And dangling from her neck, or what's left of it, I see what looks to mee like the charm hanging from a necklace. Or the end of a ribbon. There are several horror stories where a beautiful woman has a ribbon tightly wrapped around her neck, the ribbon being the only thing keeping her head attached. Which
would fit a nightmare-eating clan. In any case, that bit-o-silver-dangly ends; it doesn't extend. Not much of a zipper then, is it?
Besides, I'm
sure that talented 'cubi could not only shapeshift severed/torn skin, but even mostly-detached faces (or other body parts), too.
Which, as Anker pointed out, is even
more creepy. And probably highly unnerving to other 'cubi, besides.
Quote from: MinkKish'Ta was one of the first clans to join the SAIA Academy.
Many of the professors, especially those who teach dream travel, are from her clan.
These folks teach at SAIA, and Abel thinks Alexsi is the scariest person he ever met. :U
She's slipping. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_623.php)
She's hitting her stride. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_675.php)
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 18, 2010, 05:00:52 PM
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 18, 2010, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 18, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
not realy if you notice there are stitches on the legs.. so she pulled some one elses face off she's wearing a skin suit, ala ed gein
I ... didn't notice that. That's simply ... just ... GAH!
Alternatively she's *not* wearing someone elses skin suit, and is wearing her *own* skinsuit ... aka, she morphed herself to look like a wolf, then cut it off and stitched it back on again.
That's possibly even creepier than if it's someone elses. :D
And more appropriate. Remember:
:shapeshifters
Besides, I'm sure that talented 'cubi could not only shapeshift severed/torn skin, but even mostly-detached faces (or other body parts), too.
Heh, heh, heh, love your answer, I only wish I thought up that response. :mwaha
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy. :)
I'm sure its very simple for shapeshifters to uhh... detach certain parts from ummm... other bits.
*PG rating preserved!*
For now...
Quote from: Shachza on January 19, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
Also, I'm guessing they have some magical form of contraception .. if anything, just so they can have a go at it without having to worry about sudden pregnancy. :)
I'm sure its very simple for shapeshifters to uhh... detach certain parts from ummm... other bits.
*PG rating preserved!*
For now...
You mean like how Mink is a girl, but people keep thinking she's a guy because of her chest?
EDIT: If I'm wrong about Mink's gender, I would either like to have Amber or a quote from Amber to prove it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 19, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
Fa'Lina isn't a Giant, so I guess that answers that. :)
Yeah. She probably doesn't want to spook the students too much. For Kish'Ta, if what she's implied to have done in the picture is real, she'd need to have skinned and decapitated a giant vixen to make it fit >:3
Or maybe she can cause the hide to enlarge/shrink to fit whatever size she is at the moment.
Quote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them. I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh. Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added. And dangling from her neck, or what's left of it, I see what looks to mee like the charm hanging from a necklace.
I think that 'charm' is what they're seeing as a zipper.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 01:05:29 PM
You mean like how Mink is a girl, but people keep thinking she's a guy because of her chest?
Uh, since when was Mink's gender ever clarified at all? It's a 'cubi. Unless it outright states what it was at birth (i.e. before it grew into the 'cubi ability to shapeshift) its gender is unknown and kinda pointless. It can be whatever gender it wants once it hits its shape shifting age. Including 'none'.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on January 19, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
It's a 'cubi. Unless it outright states what it was at birth (i.e. before it grew into the 'cubi ability to shapeshift) its gender is unknown and kinda pointless. It can be whatever gender it wants once it hits its shape shifting age.
Now this raises a lot of interesting to disturbing possibillities, looking back at the comic... :U
Quote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
And more appropriate. Remember:
:shapeshifters
I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them. I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh. Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added.
Well if you follow the link I posted to ambers fa page
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/
You can more easily spot the zipper which is at the neck on her chest, and you can also see the big stitches round the butt wings.
also there is a big gap in the shapshifting theory. Cubi can't shapshift away there clan mark so if she'd just shapshifted her form to look like she's wearing a costume we'd still see here mark, she couldn't cover it up that way. and skinning her self wouldn't work because her own pelt would have the mark too. so it has to be another fur's skin
Quote from: thegayhare on January 19, 2010, 04:18:08 PMQuote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
And more appropriate. Remember:
:shapeshifters
I keep looking for those zippers that everyone else keeps mentioning, and I keep failing to find them. I see what looks like a few piercings midway down the her thigh. Or it could just be a contrast/lighting effect that the artist added.
Well if you follow the link I posted to ambers fa page http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3289975/
You can more easily spot the zipper which is at the neck on her chest, and you can also see the big stitches round the butt wings.
You are indeed correct! I took a look (forgot that I had a FA account), and in the comments, Amber states that Kish'Ta is wearing a cheap off-the-rack
costume, but that the face is her own.
Which now takes it from creepy to, "HEH?!?" in 40 seconds.
(Why the heck wear a costume??? She can shapeshift ferchrissyssake! Why???)
Quote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 04:39:44 PM
You are indeed correct! I took a look (forgot that I had a FA account), and in the comments, Amber states that Kish'Ta is wearing a cheap off-the-rack costume, but that the face is her own.
Well, you can get a leather jacket with a zip in it, so the fact that it had one and some stitches wouldn't prevent it being made from the desecrated remains of some unfortunate who got in her way.
But yes, it seems to have been purchased at a department store. Amber's bit about "Between you and me guys," makes me wonder if she wants that especially public or not, but we can easily ditch this part of it later if she objects >:3
Whether the mask is something she built herself or the product of shapeshifting is a little vague, but from Amber's other comments about Kish'Ta being all show and little substance, it seems like she's just a bit nuts rather than a grade A psychopath. I'm not quite sure whether to be greatly relieved or slightly let down.
I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 05:17:16 PM
I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.
She probably can, justa combo of lazy and flayed skins smell bad quite quickly.
Quote from: iceick on January 19, 2010, 05:17:16 PM
I opt for let down. I mean she's supposably a powerful cubi, she should be able to do things like that for real.
I'm sure she could. But the key to having such power and
keeping it is to use that power
responsibly. If you create too many enemies you could end up like Siar and the others :B
Quote from: candide on January 19, 2010, 04:39:44 PM
(Why the heck wear a costume??? She can shapeshift ferchrissyssake! Why???)
because that would ruin the effect.
If she just shapshifted her clan symbol would be front and center and any one who knew enough about cubi would know it's a shapshifting trick. while here if its a suit you don't know if its real or not.
Mam I hadn't gone back to check for a while so I missed the off the rack costume thing
Kish'Ta is a clan leader who is far less vicious than one would assume. And in a way, being terrifying is an artform to her and her clan. Which is often about subtle things and applying details that borderline absurd and twist realities. If anything, Kish'Ta and her clan have had a lot of time to refine themselves and so brutal tactics just feel cheap to many of their clan.
As for the fox outfit, as I mentioned on FA, the actual suit is average department story jammies. She did modify the sides to let her wings stick out. Because really, walking around in a skin suit just makes you look morbid and uncreative. Not to mention oh god the itchies. Having tea in fuzzy jammies then suddenly pop off your face, that's entertainment. :U
And really, she's 24k years old. Who in their right mind is going to tell her she's too old to be wearing jammies?
It's good to be the boss.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 19, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
And really, she's 24k years old. Who in their right mind is going to tell her she's too old to be wearing jammies?
Did she qualify for the OAP discount at the department store?
EDIT:
Or did she order one of her underlings to buy it?
I'd guess it's most likely she ordered someone to buy it. Still, the picture of a 24 millennia old, insanely powerful entity showing up in a costume store and meeky ... buying a costume has something amusing.
Maybe the manufacturer should have tried to make a deal?
The following nightmare full of indescribable pain and unthinkable tortures is brought to you by FoxTown Costumes - Bringing Fun To Families since 1875!
We know that Kish'Ta came out of Amber's head...
But was she drawn, or did she just claw her way out??? :kruger
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 19, 2010, 05:43:33 PM
I'd guess it's most likely she ordered someone to buy it. Still, the picture of a 24 millennia old, insanely powerful entity showing up in a costume store and meeky ... buying a costume has something amusing.
Is the alternative any less amusing?
"You!"
"Y-yes, milady?"
"You are to go at once to Debenhams and fetch me three things: a small candelabra, some silverware and some red vixen pyjamas. With a zip."
"Milady...? D-did you say
vixen pyjamas?"
"No excuses! Go!"
I don't see anything wrong with her taking off her face. After all, don't women normally put on their best face in the morning. And athletes are known to put on their game faces all the time. However, it's important to keep track of it. Losing face is embarrassing.
If any clan leaders out there want to gorge on pain, I know where they can have a feast at this moment. You know how they tell actors to "break a leg". Unfortunately, I was at Blue Mountain ski resort at the time. My leg is now bolted together and looks like something from the Demonology 101 page (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/undead.php).
Jeez, seeing a face ripped off is not something you want to see first thing in the morning.
This sort of begs the question: Is she an undead Cubi, and this is how she can do that?
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 19, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
And really, she's 24k years old. Who in their right mind is going to tell her she's too old to be wearing jammies?
It's good to be the boss.
Does that mean she
also have pink fuzzy bunny slippers (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_130.php) ? :)
DO NOT WANT
Aww, but fuzzy bunny slippers are so keen! :D
Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on January 19, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Jeez, seeing a face ripped off is not something you want to see first thing in the morning.
Yeah, wait until a few minutes before lunch.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2010, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 19, 2010, 05:43:33 PM
I'd guess it's most likely she ordered someone to buy it. Still, the picture of a 24 millennia old, insanely powerful entity showing up in a costume store and meeky ... buying a costume has something amusing.
Is the alternative any less amusing?
"You!"
"Y-yes, milady?"
"You are to go at once to Debenhams and fetch me three things: a small candelabra, some silverware and some red vixen pyjamas. With a zip."
"Milady...? D-did you say vixen pyjamas?"
"No excuses! Go!"
For that matter, it could have been an impulse buy - she spotted them in a store, tried them on...
"Ooh! Me likes!"
...and she's been wearing 'em ever since.
Quote from: LionHeart on January 20, 2010, 01:33:06 AM
...and she's been wearing 'em ever since.
... Do they bend?
You ask her. :P
Heh.
"Hey, was just wondering if the jammies bend. Also, do you do children's parties?"
Will it blend?
Chuck Norris does not blend.
Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on January 19, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Jeez, seeing a face ripped off is not something you want to see first thing in the morning.
Quote from: Goatmon on January 19, 2010, 10:06:59 PM
DO NOT WANT
I don't understand you guys.
She's cute. I even want to see her whole natural look.
(Of course the guy whose childhood involved unflinching grinning, end to end, at scenes like the Indiana Jones face melt and the Aliens chestburster scene will be the only person disturbed and twisted enough to say that.)
Though on a tangent, surely she also has a stellar personality to match that beautiful face, no?
i remember something from a vampire comic (yes those evil gnawing emo wannabes that can kill you) i think that vamp has no skin so he was in a tube with special fluid.
and has too choose a living human being for his skin.
anyway that human being was killed, and they filled his organs with other tubes. (probbably using it for something else) anyway. the vamp used his skin.
and only can '' live'outside the tube with that skin covering his whole body for at least 3/ 6 hours. i dont know what method kish'ta is doing. then again.
mayby a mythos helps her to 'survive'
Going by Amber's comments on the previous page of this thread, I'd say the gore bwtween faces is some kind of illusion, whether stage makeup, magical or dream-projected imagery. She needs nobody else's skin to survive.
At first I was thinking her eye sockets were empty, but on closer examination, that's either black eyeballs (or contacts) or she's wearing shades. I can see what may be the arms of the glasses.
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 18, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 18, 2010, 04:33:04 PM
Halloween is probably one of the best holidays for fear affinity clans, so yeah, probably.
<OT> I could imagine it's actually their least favourite holiday. Think about it: When would you freaked out most by people pulling scary stunts right in front of you? On Halloween when everyone and their dog is walking around as ghosts/zombies/etc or on any other day of the year when it would come completely out of the blue? </OT>
Perhaps Halloween would be a treat for them, instead of regular fear, a little fear flavored with frivolity.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 20, 2010, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on January 20, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
Will it blend?
Bah, beat me to it. :mowtongue
I was going to say that too, but decided against it for some silly reason. Alas.
What is that black thing sticking up behind her? At first I was going to guess some kind of head spine, but that seems a bit silly on a cubi.
Quote from: Arcblade on January 20, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
What is that black thing sticking up behind her? At first I was going to guess some kind of head spine, but that seems a bit silly on a cubi.
I think it's just her left (for us) back wing, which you don't actually see except for this piece.
You know, it says something about how much time I spend at FA when I look at this picture and think:
I wonder if the Nightmare clan and the Obscure Fetish clan ever get their assignments mxed up?
Quote from: Magic on January 20, 2010, 10:53:34 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on January 19, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Jeez, seeing a face ripped off is not something you want to see first thing in the morning.
Quote from: Goatmon on January 19, 2010, 10:06:59 PM
DO NOT WANT
I don't understand you guys. She's cute. I even want to see her whole natural look.
(Of course the guy whose childhood involved unflinching grinning, end to end, at scenes like the Indiana Jones face melt and the Aliens chestburster scene will be the only person disturbed and twisted enough to say that.)
Though on a tangent, surely she also has a stellar personality to match that beautiful face, no?
Uh-oh, It looks like I have some compatition for getting a date with her.
Quote from: ANTIcarrot on January 20, 2010, 06:50:41 PM
You know, it says something about how much time I spend at FA when I look at this picture and think:
I wonder if the Nightmare clan and the Obscure Fetish clan ever get their assignments mxed up?
Huh. My mind just flew off in like 30 different directions.
Then again, even hideous monsters like to get a little lovin' every now and again. Cuddling must be awkward though; you'd ruin a lot of couches with a face like hers.
Quote from: Shachza on January 21, 2010, 01:30:18 AM
Quote from: ANTIcarrot on January 20, 2010, 06:50:41 PM
You know, it says something about how much time I spend at FA when I look at this picture and think:
I wonder if the Nightmare clan and the Obscure Fetish clan ever get their assignments mxed up?
Huh. My mind just flew off in like 30 different directions.
Then again, even hideous monsters like to get a little lovin' every now and again. Cuddling must be awkward though; you'd ruin a lot of couches with a face like hers.
I'm willing to bet the gore is just a fabrication. Either shapeshifting or illusion. I highly doubt she'd walk around dripping blood all the time. Well, unless she really wanted to, anyway.
*Charline hmms* Fear, eh? She must be my Mom! MOOOOOMMMMYYYY!! *hugs!*
Ugh... this could also mean I'm related to Ink, since he seems to like fear too. Well, they do say siblings fight alot. :B
Y'know, now that I look at her carefully, she *does* very much look like a bat, face-wise. If you crossed a bat with a naked mole rat for the skin tone, anyway. (Wing style is obvious, but fairly easy to discount since many wing styles are similar.) Bats are stereotypically scary, too. (See "Batman Begins" for a decent example.) So I guess that makes perfect sense. Her coloring is perfect, too.
/indepth analysis