04/20/08 [Abel 2 #14] - "Of course it's a ****ing PROBLEM!"

[kaskar]

  Hundreds of years after this, and Aniz's clan is almost extinct. Is this due to Aniz's 76 year ban. Abel's self-induced solitude at SAIA for hundreds of years ? Or is it a case of, " The clan may be sparse, but it still exists, and holds strong ... "

(  Fa''lina always seems to look good when she makes Aniz look small ... )

[Brunhidden]

Maybe if you bring enough of your kinds in, you'll get some kind of a premium? Nah, that's not likely to be a reason..

Meh... could be. Perhaps he wants to have a lot of kids and start his own clan or somesuch (i.e. boost himself into Tri-Winged status). We do know that his existing clan is currently founderless and nearly extinct...

point, it has been mentioned before when talking about things like wing tentacles that the power of an individual cubi relies heavily on the power of that cubi's clan.

although question how much power the clan gains by increasing its numbers as opposed to having members who are powerfull or the age of the clan as a whole.

aniz may very well be afraid that if he does not have a powerful clan he shall grow old faster then normal, and after that many years his gun may not have enough bullets

[Kuari]

I'm just in awe in how gutsy Aniz is getting.  He acted so afraid of her at first, but now, he looks ready to kill...  hell...  I wouldn't be surprised if that idiot tried, what with how he killed Hannaya and such out of anger, I wouldn't put any stupidity past him.

[Sid]

Fa'Lina's panel 4 expression made me squee like crazy. Cutest Fa'Lina expression I can remember!

Meh... could be. Perhaps he wants to have a lot of kids and start his own clan or somesuch (i.e. boost himself into Tri-Winged status).

That has given me some very interesting (and rather nasty) ideas to play with.

"Jakob Does Dallas"? ("...and ends up on YouTube")

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Well, I can imagine having such a sparse clan would make one a little indignant at having a metaphorical chastity belt locked on you for the next seventy-six years. 3 to 1 says he breaks that, though, and suffers the consequences. (Why the hell am I sympathizing with him right now? I mean, he's a bastard, but I still feel a little bad for him...)

What consequences? All Fa'Lina has limited him to is that he's not allowed to enrol any new students for 75 years. He's welcome to spawn as many as he likes in that time, provided he doesn't take them to SAIA.

"Jakob Does Dallas"? ("...and ends up on YouTube")

*snerk*


In other ideas, it occurs to me to wonder why Destania hasn't provided Dan with more siblings. After all, it's not like she's reached menopause; as long as Ed is around, and they're getting jiggy with it (sorry, JF), one would think you'd get another sibling every few years. At least once per ten year period or so. Unless 'Cubi have a tendency to spread the births much more, which is, IMNSHO, kinda sad. After all, you can see how much Dan and Alexsi get on, despite their differences.

[Gamma]

^You just helped me think of a very sad thing.

What if Dan had gotten married and started a family by now, or not been an adventurer and done the same.
His kids would probably live plenty long enough but his wife wouldn't.
How sad, tragic, and unfortunately I'm sure it wouldn't have been the first time someone had to see their wife age for the next 60+ years and feel guilty day in and day out.

[Tezkat]

In other ideas, it occurs to me to wonder why Destania hasn't provided Dan with more siblings. After all, it's not like she's reached menopause; as long as Ed is around, and they're getting jiggy with it (sorry, JF), one would think you'd get another sibling every few years. At least once per ten year period or so. Unless 'Cubi have a tendency to spread the births much more, which is, IMNSHO, kinda sad. After all, you can see how much Dan and Alexsi get on, despite their differences.

But... Ed isn't around. We know that he wasn't around much while Dan was a kid. And he's on ice (literally) in now.

Also, Creatures are pretty much at the top of the food chain, and they live for centuries, so it makes sense that they'd be inclined to control their own populations. Aniz implied that he considers four children a century to be on the high side, for instance.

What if Dan had gotten married and started a family by now, or not been an adventurer and done the same.
His kids would probably live plenty long enough but his wife wouldn't.
How sad, tragic, and unfortunately I'm sure it wouldn't have been the first time someone had to see their wife age for the next 60+ years and feel guilty day in and day out.

The plot of nearly every romance involving mere mortals and longer-lived races...

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

But... Ed isn't around. We know that he wasn't around much while Dan was a kid. And he's on ice (literally) in now.

Point. I hadn't realised just how early he started wandering off.

... I know I have much more inclination to spend time at home than that, and I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't have the wingspan that Destania has... ;-]

[Angel]

But... Ed isn't around. We know that he wasn't around much while Dan was a kid. And he's on ice (literally) in now.

Uh-oh. Major uh-oh. I just had an apostrophe. (sic. It's a Hook reference.)

After looking at those two comics, I just foresaw a big big biiiiig problem with DP's return. He seemed surprised to learn that Destania had a kid... whether he knows that that kid is Dan I'm not positive, but I can guess he does. And the dragon race doesn't know Dan exists, save for Pyroduck, who doesn't really care. So if DP really wants to screw Dan over... oh shiz-nik.

^You just helped me think of a very sad thing.

What if Dan had gotten married and started a family by now, or not been an adventurer and done the same.
His kids would probably live plenty long enough but his wife wouldn't.
How sad, tragic, and unfortunately I'm sure it wouldn't have been the first time someone had to see their wife age for the next 60+ years and feel guilty day in and day out.

(ahem cough Dan and Matilda cough)

[Ren Gaulen]

(ahem cough Dan and Matilda cough)

*hisses* Blasphemyyyyyyy....

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

(ahem cough Dan and Matilda cough)

*hisses* Blasphemyyyyyyy....

What, didn't you like Megan?

[Ryan_Galen]

1) When Aniz said "He looks just like them"- who is them?
2) When Fa'Lina said "The last person who tried this"- What is this?

Over all question, "WHAT IS ANIZ'S GOAL?"

Maybe he's trying to indirectly ressurrect certain members of his own clan, focusing on appearence and behavior rather then insanely difficult part to bring back: the soul.

Or maybe it really is all about clan reproduction. I mean, how small does a clan have to be to be to be considered almost dead and gone? Ten member, five members... two? It would be kind of interesting if Able more or less doubled the population of his own clan just by being born.

[Tapewolf]

Or maybe it really is all about clan reproduction. I mean, how small does a clan have to be to be to be considered almost dead and gone? Ten member, five members... two? It would be kind of interesting if Able more or less doubled the population of his own clan just by being born.

I've heard a healthy clan ranges somewhere around 20-80 individuals.  Personally I think it is a clan revival thing, but I guess we'll see.

[AmigaDragon]

I have a feeling Aniz is about to do something stupid again, in the last panel his wings are spread out in an aggressive display

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I have a feeling Aniz is about to do something stupid again, in the last panel his wings are spread out in an aggressive display

Here's a quick test to see if Aniz is about to do something stupid.

Is he breathing? If so, then yes.

;-]

[Tapewolf]

Is he breathing? If so, then yes.

How do you know he's breathing?   

[Ren Gaulen]

How do you know he's breathing?   

He needs to breathe to speak.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Good point, Tapewolf.

Great way to ruin the joke, though. :-P

[Aleolus]

Hmm, is anyone else seeing the implication in Fa'Lina's statement there? That not only does she know exactly what Aniz is up to, she has every intention of thwarting him every possible step, and knows exactly how to do it?

On another note, I agree, a Cubi only sireing three kids in  75 years is quite restrained.  If it was me, I'd probably have three kids with the same woman in that length of time.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

On another note, I agree, a Cubi only sireing three kids in  75 years is quite restrained.  If it was me, I'd probably have three kids with the same woman in that length of time.

... How long is said woman going to live for? I mean, there's limits to how long women remain fertile for.

Dan and Matilda, they're both extremely long lived, so I can see them waiting for a while before having kids. On the other hand, she's independently wealthy - at least enough to have her own shop - so one would think there's ways and means of having kids sooner.

On a tangent sort of subject, having kids is a good way of soaking up all your spare cash for the next ~20 years. Think about that a bit, especially if you're going to live for a thousand or more...

[Brunhidden]

On another note, I agree, a Cubi only sireing three kids in  75 years is quite restrained.  If it was me, I'd probably have three kids with the same woman in that length of time.

... How long is said woman going to live for? I mean, there's limits to how long women remain fertile for.

Dan and Matilda, they're both extremely long lived, so I can see them waiting for a while before having kids. On the other hand, she's independently wealthy - at least enough to have her own shop - so one would think there's ways and means of having kids sooner.

On a tangent sort of subject, having kids is a good way of soaking up all your spare cash for the next ~20 years. Think about that a bit, especially if you're going to live for a thousand or more...

Matilda is wealthy, yes, living long enough to pay off any mortgages and OWN your property in what seems like a blink of an eye can do that. Dan is wealthy too, what with having phat lewt from all his adventures, and the fact he now realises he can adventure for another few centuries with no worries as hes one badass mofo who now has shape shifting, magic, and can hold about six swords at once.

yeah, holding six magic swords kinda gives you an edge in combat, as does having the ability to morph into one of the badguys henchmen until hes right in the throneroom. there is no finantial problems here.

thus, once the horny kitty hooks up with the horny taur theres probably going to be kids about every 1-2 years until Dan runs out of bullets.

Dan IS a clan all on his own, and after about kid 6 Matilda will find those kids just kind of roll out and may not even notice she gave birth all the time. that will be one cool family

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

...

I hate to rain on your parade, there, Brunnyboy, but...

... there's a little more to bringing up a child than just spawning them. I'd like to think that 'Tilly is bright enough for that, even if Dan is demonstrably not. ;-]

Besides, you know that already. How much of your time, and your wife's time, is used up watching Eowyn? Washing clothes? Drying nappies? Buying food? After a while, it starts to add up.

[Lucheek]

Somehow I think this is more particular than clan repopulation. If he just wanted to make his clan more populated, I doubt he would care what they looked like. Or, even, if they went into SAIA. You don't have to go there to be a cubi. I think it's got to be something...deeper.

[e_voyager]

Unless he gets hurt Dan is not likely to need to worry about running out of bullets. why not? high school biology i has the answer to that question. as for the who lot of children? well i'm not sure either of them are in any hurry.

[AmigaDragon]

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I hate to rain on your parade, there, Brunnyboy, but...

... there's a little more to bringing up a child than just spawning them. I'd like to think that 'Tilly is bright enough for that, even if Dan is demonstrably not. ;-]

And besides, the last I recall, Dan was (at most) only interested in being friends with her.

[e_voyager]

Well Dan and Matilda are both moving at their own pace with there own ideals as shown here ,here , verging on TMI here and here and lets not forget how his best friend feels on the subject.

[Brunhidden]

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I hate to rain on your parade, there, Brunnyboy, but...

... there's a little more to bringing up a child than just spawning them. I'd like to think that 'Tilly is bright enough for that, even if Dan is demonstrably not. ;-]

Besides, you know that already. How much of your time, and your wife's time, is used up watching Eowyn? Washing clothes? Drying nappies? Buying food? After a while, it starts to add up.

oddly enough the cost of raising eowyn is almost nill. the only items that took big money were entirely reusable items like the crib and such, food does not cost that much unless you have an extremely fat kid, diapers just need laundering usually, watching her is basically doing what you normally do but making sure shes in the room with you, and at three or four years of age kids actually are able to help out, and by the time you get a five year old they can do probably half the work of any subsequent infants that pop up.

yeah, my wife and i are probably going to have an entire clan in  a little bit


keep in mind, dan is just an all around horny person, matilda just has the hots for dan, and when your that long lived your progeny will almost all seem to become twenty years old in an eyeblink and theres bound to be a couple who live at home with the folks and thier 'rent' is diapering whatever loinfruit most recently popped out