04/21/07, Abel's Story #82, "First Assumptions"

[Titanium Dragon]

I think it is very interesting that it is May and not Cid who is overreacting. Isn't it best to just fess up? Or does she really not know? In either case, it doesn't seem too useful to be this upset about it, given he isn't...

[Nino]

Hey, why are Cid's ears and hands still black while May's have faded? Is he just going gray later? Because his beard is pretty gray.

[kaskar]

                Is Cid calm due to not having guilt, or is as before conjectured, do we have a cubi in the house ?

[Fuyudenki]

I think Cid's calm because he trusts his wife.  That, and she's going nuts, Abel's traumatic, and Henya's... Henya.  Someone has to be sane!

[superluser]

You know, I noticed something.

May says that her friends brought up the issue of infidelity.  We never saw that.  Means that we're probably going to see it in the future.  Maybe Devin's mom?  May says that friends started questioning her fidelity after the town, but that doesn't mean that the town didn't continue to question it afterwards.

[Aridas]

Cid: May. It's alright. I'm just checking. But now I have to tell you the truth. DAR I AM AN INCUBUS LOL

May: OMGWTF

Cid: STFU when I talk

May: I HERD U (liek mudkipz lol) ALREADY

Cid: kay also something bad is going to happen

May: like whut

Cid: Oshi- forget i said that kthx bb

May: GG NOOB

[Tsunari]

I don't think Abel is in any trouble.  As long as his parents accept him they can get him help and there won't be any trouble for him at all.

[kaskar]

I don't think Abel is in any trouble.  As long as his parents accept him they can get him help and there won't be any trouble for him at all.

There may ( May ? ) be a few hassles at the moment, but at least Cid accepts Abel as his son, and isn't about to go out and go rampaging through the house looking for Abel . Later will be seen

[Reaver225]

I am 100% sure at this point that May is not the father.

I am also 100% sure at this point Cid is not the mother.


EDIT: Considering the family moved to Zineth, the Demon City, there shouldn't be much problem with the locals - unless 'cubi are really really rare and despised by even other creatures, Abel would probably even fit in better than Cid and May.

[Hnix]

I am also 100% sure at this point Cid is not the mother.


EDIT: Considering the family moved to Zineth, the Demon City, there shouldn't be much problem with the locals - unless 'cubi are really really rare and despised by even other creatures, Abel would probably even fit in better than Cid and May.

Until he goes to the casino to play poker or black jack with his thought reading abilities.

[Sno Wolf]

I still think Cid's a Cubi.  May's reaction to Abel's headwings seems genuine.  Compare that to Cid's calm reaction, and I get the feeling he's hiding something.  Especially since as an adventurer, you'd think his first reaction would be "kill on sight", son or not.

My guess is, Cid's going to let May rant in hopes that Abel and Hennya clear out of the room.  Then he's going to explain it to her, and together they're going to explain it to Abel.

[Prof B Hunnydew]

The theory now bumbed up to most likely: May DOES know she slept with someone, but may/may not know that someone was a cubi.

It sounds more like May was a little too frisky in her younger days before Cid, but the "world" doesn't believe that she was true to Cid.  Not after Abel was born with wings.  Now, Cid knows what may have happen with Abel's conception, that a Cubi tricked May.  Yet May is too hurt to listen to that explanation, or That Cid seems to distrust May, in her eyes..

This will not end good if May continues down this path.

PBH

[superluser]

I still think Cid's a Cubi.  May's reaction to Abel's headwings seems genuine.  Compare that to Cid's calm reaction, and I get the feeling he's hiding something.  Especially since as an adventurer, you'd think his first reaction would be "kill on sight", son or not.

If Cid's an incubus, he's being a total dick.  Accusing his wife of infidelity knowing that she has a scrupulous conscience about it--that's cold.  The only way that I could explain that would be that Cid doesn't care *at all* about May.

And even then, I think that Cid would be more credible if he started getting very angry at May.  That's unlikely to happen, because it doesn't lend itself to jokes, and arguments over infidelity are kind of like Godwin's law.

I think it's more likely that I'm Abel's father.

My guess is, Cid's going to let May rant in hopes that Abel and Hennya clear out of the room.  Then he's going to explain it to her, and together they're going to explain it to Abel.

I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room.  It requires the utmost skill to pull it off.  Ready?

Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.

Wheels within wheels!

Seriously, why on Furrae would Cid start deceiving May in an effort to repel bystanders in order to allow him to explain things honestly to her?

It sounds more like May was a little too frisky in her younger days before Cid, but the "world" doesn't believe that she was true to Cid.

Yay!  Someone agrees with me!  May's phrasing suggests that she wasn't unfaithful when they were married, to me.  We differ in that I think that May's infidelity might have been during the time when Cid and May were dating.

I have previously said the lady doth protest too much, methinks.  I had no clue, however, that *that* was the reason why.

[GabrielsThoughts]

I have nothing to say about this conflict.

[Tapewolf]

I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room.  It requires the utmost skill to pull it off.  Ready?

Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.

Just one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch.  Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.

[Kasarn]

I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room.  It requires the utmost skill to pull it off.  Ready?

Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.

Just one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch.  Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.

Also, Abel and Hennya aren't goats... OR ARE THEY?!

[superluser]

Just one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch.  Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.

Cid: The damn I can't!  This is my house, and Hennya is here only because I let her.  If I want her to go, she will go.  Now, of her own volition, or in a minute or two when I call the cops.  And Abel, you may be old enough to drink, but you're still my son.  When you're off at school, you can get blotto and put tattoos all over your body, but when you're under *my* roof and eating *my* food, which *I* pay for, you will do what I say.  Both of you think you're so old and wise in your mid-twenties.  But to me, you're just punk kids.  Now go!

Or, Hennya and Abel could realize that when Abel's parents want to fight and don't want either of them to see it, it's probably polite to leave when asked.

[Damaris]

oh, please.  I'm an adult, and I still get out of a room if my parents tell me to.  Realistically, if this was the fight my parents were having, I'd already be edging out, unless they were blocking the only door.

[Tapewolf]

oh, please.  I'm an adult, and I still get out of a room if my parents tell me to.  Realistically, if this was the fight my parents were having, I'd already be edging out, unless they were blocking the only door.

I don't think that's in dispute, notwithstanding that Abel may still be too spaced out to realise what's going on (in which case it falls to Hennya to gently lead him away).
My real question is that Superluser's use of the word 'kids' to describe them made me wonder whether he was still thinking in terms of them being minors, although that would seem not to be the case.

The other point is whether Abel is actually living with his parents.  I got the impression that he was just visiting them.  In #29 Cid seems to be catching up with him which to me suggests that they haven't seen each other for a few months.

[superluser]

The other point is whether Abel is actually living with his parents.  I got the impression that he was just visiting them.

Doesn't matter.  Abel's not paying them rent, and I doubt that he bought those eggs.  So Cid could still use that line.  I thought the ``when you're off at school'' line should have indicated that Abel isn't living with them, but when he visits, he's supposed to abide by their rules.

Now, before I get too carried away here (too late?), this is all conjecture, and in no way should be taken to reflect what Amber would actually want the characters to do, or the living situation between them.

If Amber asked me to write this page of Abel's story, and Cid was supposed to reveal in private that he was an incubus to May, and thus wanted Abel and Hennya to leave, I'd have him tell them to leave.  If they refused to leave (which doesn't make sense for those two, and I wouldn't write them that way), the above dialogue is what I would have Cid say.

Edit: also, not because that's the type of person that Cid is, but rather because he's trying to engineer a response--in the former, he's acting on Abel's tendency towards politely obeying his parents, while in the latter, he's trying to make Abel have an ``OSHI--my father's going nuts.  It's really not safe for me to be here'' reaction.  It's also why Cid would refer to Abel's clan mark as a tattoo, even if he knew that it was a clan mark.

[Aridas]

If he's trying to look nuts, he's failing miserably, as he seems pretty calm as compared to May.

[superluser]

If he's trying to look nuts, he's failing miserably, as he seems pretty calm as compared to May.

Yup.  So it's likely he's not trying to get Abel out of the room so that he can explain something to May in private.

[Alondro]

*Charline bah*  Too much chatter, not enough slaughter.  I hate it when people try to talk through their marital problems instead of simply throwing things and stabbing each other with various pointy objects.   

[Zedd]

Your folks where creepy Charline...

[Aurawyn]

May says that her friends brought up the issue of infidelity.  We never saw that.  Means that we're probably going to see it in the future.  Maybe Devin's mom?  May says that friends started questioning her fidelity after the town, but that doesn't mean that the town didn't continue to question it afterwards.

I think Sally was her friend at one point.. and thats what she is referring to when she says her friends brought it up

[superluser]

I think Sally was her friend at one point.. and thats what she is referring to when she says her friends brought it up

Doesn't sound like it.  Sally calls her ``Mrs. Rewanz,'' and I doubt that she would do that if she were on a personal basis with May.

P.S. l'esprit de l'escalier:

Abel may still be too spaced out to realise what's going on (in which case it falls to Hennya to gently lead him away).

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_530.php

[kaskar]

            When is Cid going to turn into a cubi ? If that happened, it would vastly simlify the plot, or is it a case of .... " all options must be left open on this subject for later concideration " ?

[bill]

What are you even talking about? 

[Aleolus]

Well, it appears that May was unfaithful a long time ago, and she is wanting to just leave it in the past and forget about it, and (from her point of view) everyone is refusing to let it die in the past.

[ShiningShadow]

But in turn it came up but to think about it if she left that past it could of happened before she was dating Cid and had a Lover on the side it could be possible.

Or the theory of the Succubus disguised as Cid impregnated May and *viola* Abel is there in her belly.

I don't know there are other theory's like Cid is the Succubus and I don't believe that at this point.