Brotherhood of the Machine (OOC Thread) {03}

[techmaster-glitch]

He seems to be the Belkar of the party, in some ways. 

Awww. I thought Jexx was our Belkar.

[Ryudo Lee]

He is, in other ways.  The two of you seem to make up the whole of Belkar.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

If there's only one vehicle, would the stuff that the Brotherhood confiscated from their prisoners be elsewhere inside it? I would like for him to recover his possessions if at all possible.

[Lisky]

awesome, thanks for the info Lee, now all i need to do is try and think of how darkshine would go about to solve the problem.... the soldiers on foot, is it like a fast jog march pace, or is this more like leisurely stroll pace?

(Edit)
as for the rest of the team, how i'm thinking we do this is set up in cover a few miles ahead, and take out the zealots first, once they're down, concentrate on the elites as they're going to take a lot more fire to bring down...

for the zealots, the faster they all go down, the better it is, so letting them get well into our own range would be intelligent since some of the rebels with us are armed with SMGs which gives them an extremely limited range.  We need to try and take as many out with our first shots as possible, so the return fire is minimized... so, label them based on position, and have everyone take aim on 1 zealot...  once everyone has a solid shot on their assigned man, the commanding officer (probably Exo) gives the order, and a near simultaneous volley nails the convoy, wiping out a good deal of their outside protection... then we'll need to communicate as to which elites we concentrate on once the zealots are gone...

now, with the plan in place, i give it about a 5% chance of actually working the way i'm seeing it because of 3 major factors
1: the time to setup
2: the unknown factor of what's inside the transport
3:Jexx (i can totally see everyone in position, and Jexx standing up and shouting 'LEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRROOOOOOOYYYYYYYY')

[techmaster-glitch]

He is, in other ways.  The two of you seem to make up the whole of Belkar.

Heh, if it wasn't soooo completely out of character, Jexx could viably say this at one point:

"I AM A SEXY SHIRTLESS GOD OF WAR!"

(tactical stuff)

Jexx is just going to jump around the trees putting out a constant stream of plasma balls.

[Ryudo Lee]

If there's only one vehicle, would the stuff that the Brotherhood confiscated from their prisoners be elsewhere inside it? I would like for him to recover his possessions if at all possible.

Yes.

He is, in other ways.  The two of you seem to make up the whole of Belkar.

Heh, if it wasn't soooo completely out of character, Jexx could viably say this at one point:

"I AM A SEXY SHIRTLESS GOD OF WAR!"

Jexx wears shoes?

(tactical stuff)

Jexx is just going to jump around the trees putting out a constant stream of plasma balls.

All the while shouting "Leeeeeroooooy Jenkins!"

awesome, thanks for the info Lee, now all i need to do is try and think of how darkshine would go about to solve the problem.... the soldiers on foot, is it like a fast jog march pace, or is this more like leisurely stroll pace?

Jogging.

[techmaster-glitch]

Jexx wears shoes?

Well, no, his lower legs and feet are metal, but where Belkar doesn't wear shoes and has hairy little feet as a primary identifying characteristic, Jexx's is more that the only thing he wears is his black shorts, and shirtless is more noticiable than shoeless. Thus, "sexy shoeless god of war" becomes "sexy shirtless god of war", making it fit Jexx's character.

[Lisky]

(tactical stuff)

Jexx is just going to jump around the trees putting out a constant stream of plasma balls.

All the while shouting "Leeeeeroooooy Jenkins!"

so i'm not the only one who totally sees this as a possibility


anyways, back to the game... if the vans are going to meet up ahead of the convoy, we're gonna need Exo to have a post about taking command, and issuing some orders, and Morgan is gonna need to vouch for Darkshine in order from him to be useful...  while we wait for Morgan to catch up, the team should find something to barricade the road with, mayhaps fell a few trees, or roll some stones?

[Arcalane]

Take in mind I'm imagining the Armoured Van to be something like the armoured guntrucks from Mercs 2 (albeit with a closed top), or one of those big mobile-HQ style vehicles. Something a bit like this but with armoured plating and more wheel sets.

[Lisky]

well, under the circumstances i'd either switch around personnel and equipment before the raid and let DS get his gear from Dorcan, or have Dorcan use darkshine's rifle... he already gave Dorcan the rundown on the optical sight and basic operation of the weapon... now it's merely an issue if Dorcan actually remembers

[Tapewolf]

well, under the circumstances i'd either switch around personnel and equipment before the raid and let DS get his gear from Dorcan, or have Dorcan use darkshine's rifle... he already gave Dorcan the rundown on the optical sight and basic operation of the weapon... now it's merely an issue if Dorcan actually remembers

I'd assumed Dorcan had packed the rifle in the rucksack - though that depends on the size of the rucksack, I guess.

[Lisky]

it was originally in the bag, so yea, unless it disappeared at some point, dorcan still has both the rifle and the bag

[Tapewolf]

it was originally in the bag, so yea, unless it disappeared at some point, dorcan still has both the rifle and the bag

He handed the bag over to Morgan at one stage.  Dunno if he kept it.

[Lisky]

... ok, time to go back and find the rifle... it's like where's waldo... in text form.... with firearms

found it, assuming nothing has changed, the rifle is still slung across Dorcan's back... though it seems that morgan has the spare mags, and armor

[Tapewolf]

found it, assuming nothing has changed, the rifle is still slung across Dorcan's back... though it seems that morgan has the spare mags, and armor

He's certainly got the backpack, but whatever he did with the rifle, it wouldn't be on his back - that's where the crossbow lives.

[Lisky]

With a sigh, Dorcan picked up the bag, and fished out the headset.  He was about to hand it over when he paused.
"I'm not sure we want you transmitting signals.  The Brothers might detect it."

So saying, he picked up the rifle and slung it over his shoulder for safekeeping.  Before the leopard could ask for anything else, he popped the headset back into the bag and handed the thing over to Morgan.

that's the last mention of the rifle i can see

[Azlan]

Morgan was supposed to have taken all the gear, maybe I forgot to add the gun... I originally planned on having him examine the gun.

[Lisky]

hmm... well, if tape wants to go with the rifle is in the bag, either way works for me, as i'm not gonna be using it unless we actually meet back up...   it also wouldn't surprise me if morgan decided to borrow the carbine in the banshee for a bit... it's not like anyone there would actually complain it's missing, and it'd work a hell of a lot more effectively than his sniper if he's planning on fighting up close...

It'd also be a good moment of darkshine looking over and seeing morgan...  "wait a sec... that looks awfully familiar"

[Azlan]

He probably would use one of DK's guns, as he brought a laser sniper with him this time with a pair of silenced 10mm APs as backup.  He likes to move light, which is hard to do with sniper rifle, assault rifle, autopistols, grenades, heavy armor and sensor equipment.


Morgan has a .50 AR that he uses in the long to medium range category (functions well at short too), and ion pistols in the short, but he didn't bring either them or his 15.2mm anti-material/sniper rifle.

I've been a bit busy this week, so I shall catch up soon.


I wonder how fast this Banshee would move?  Maybe I can bowl over a bunch of them in a pass if I bring it as low as possible, such as nearly scraping the ground.  30 tons has got to be good for something...

[shadowterm]

Yes, but 30 tons of inertia is going to transfer a hell of a lot of kinetic energy to not just the convoy, but the people we want to free. The impact would slam the passengers with a sizable fraction of that force. I wouldn't recommend that course of action.

On the subject of offensive, I've only mentioned having a plasma cutter. The new design is more akin to the Dead Space plasma cutter, but either way it would only serve as a possible shorty range weapon, and machine crippler. In that light, it could possibly be used to incapacitate the vans, but this is unlikely. I wonder if I could get away with saying I have EMP grenades? An engineer would be the guy to not only repair machines, but possibly break them. An engineer having an EMP grenade may not be a far stretch, and would certainly take out the vans without harming the inhabitants.

[Lisky]

well, it is 30 tons, so even running them over, it's 30 tons being lifted into the air, so if they do just get run over, the state they end up in will range from crushed bones, to slimy red goo... depending on how close to the turbines the victim actually is... or, use sheer Kinetic Energy alone, ramming someone on foot would be more than enough to kill someone not in an exoskeleton as it's someone at relative standstill getting hit by 30 tons traveling at, at least 45KPH... actually with the latter option, i thought of something snide for DS to say already

"great, so you rebels borrow my ride for less than a day... and you've already decided that it'd look better in red... thanks a lot..."

[Azlan]

I'm pretty sure John Browning is from Earth, not this world.  So that would make the use of ACP, Automatic Colt Pistol, impossible.  I'm sure the cartridge probably exists, but it would be called something else I imagine.

[shadowterm]

While I would normally agree, that would mean coming up with a new word for van, as the person who made that popular on Earth may not exist here either. Point being, sometimes convenience and ease of use need to take some precedence over a tedious adherent to a fantasy universe.

But if we do decide to go with making a name for that gun, we would eventually have to create a whole new language, and the last guy to to that and make a successful story was probably Tolkien.

[Azlan]

Not at all, you are way too reactionary and far less logical than one should be.  With a bit of clear thinking, you would be able to see that we are already not adhering to a strict and complete fantasy alternate reality mantra.  We have used a bit of logic and rationalized in a few things for ease of play.  Some things, like proper names, trademarks, cultural nuances, and other aspects of our reality that can be substituted with generics or a simple fantasy "name" change should be done to help players and readers understand that this is truly a different world... otherwise there is no point in calling this a new world if you don't even file off the serial numbers and make an attempt at creating a separate environment.

But if we do decide to go with making a name for that gun, we would eventually have to create a whole new language, and the last guy to to that and make a successful story was probably Tolkien.

Really?  Over react much?  We can make logical spot changes without having to re-invent the wheel.  Even Tolkien only created a language to supplement his story.  The mannish races did not speak English, but the story was written in English.  If you know how to roleplay, how to act, and can be observant enough not to slip too much colloquialisms from our own world, then we can have a successful, unique experience without so very many anachronisms. 

I am more referencing the name of the cartridge, ACP, and not a Colt pistol specifically.  Though I also would have a problem if he was using a Colt M1911. 

[shadowterm]

Perhaps I was overzealous. And to make matters worse, I should have remembered how every other argument anyone has ever had with you went. While I stand by my statement that the gun doesn't have any problems, I concede that it would be pretty cool and up to whoever has it to give it a kick arse name. That said, it's not my decision, do whatever you want.

I'll be standing at the sidelines drafting what items my character has, as he was auto-ed into this in the first place, and the only item he has that's been mentioned is a plasma cutter. I have some work to do finding reasonable items that would come in handy and not be a deus ex machina situation.

[Tapewolf]

Morgan was supposed to have taken all the gear, maybe I forgot to add the gun... I originally planned on having him examine the gun.

It doesn't look like that quite happened in terms of what was written, but it's certainly what I intended to have happen.  I have no problems with assuming that Morgan now has all the kit.

An engineer having an EMP grenade may not be a far stretch, and would certainly take out the vans without harming the inhabitants.

What about his teammates?

**EDIT**
As for weapons, it looks like Dorcan was issued with a laser weapon of some sort.  That may or may not work for the kind of targets he'll be getting.

[Lisky]

well, pointing out that  .45 ACP is a lot faster and more natural to say than 11.43x23mm... who's to say that the AC = Automatic Colt... for all we know it could be Asgard Corporation...
and with those hypothetical arguments aside... i guess i could go back replace .45 ACP with 11mm or 12mm

[shadowterm]

An engineer having an EMP grenade may not be a far stretch, and would certainly take out the vans without harming the inhabitants.

What about his teammates?

As long as anyone mechanical, or using sensitive equipment, stood outside the AoE, it shouldn't be a problem. Of course, it could also be said that rigging a grenade to go off when triggered by the vans like a mine isn't that hard to do either.
However, it is a serious drawback of that strategy that almost the entire team would have to stand a good ten yards from the EMP emission.

[Arcalane]

well, pointing out that  .45 ACP is a lot faster and more natural to say than 11.43x23mm... who's to say that the AC = Automatic Colt... for all we know it could be Asgard Corporation...
and with those hypothetical arguments aside... i guess i could go back replace .45 ACP with 11mm or 12mm

Or you could drop the ACP part and leave the .45. It's like there's .50 BMG (Browning Machine-Gun) but .50 is generally referred to as just that; .50.

[Lisky]

... awesome call arc... i'll go do that

Btw, i'm waiting on Exo's reply on the question as to what i'm supposed to do... and i think we need tech to post something about jexx since we are about to enter a combat situation...