Umm...

Started by JackTheCubiWolf, March 26, 2010, 06:49:13 AM

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JackTheCubiWolf

I tryed to go to missmab.com, but something from comcast keeps poping up saying it can't find it. Is anyone else having this problem?
I'm back, and tired.

Tapewolf

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Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on March 26, 2010, 06:49:13 AM
I tryed to go to missmab.com, but something from comcast keeps poping up saying it can't find it. Is anyone else having this problem?

I missed this, but they're moving the server.

**EDIT**

QuoteOkay, move is going to happen in about 2 hours or so.
That is, now.

QuoteThere will be some interruption in service, since I need to halt everything while I do a final sync to the new machine.

Also, this is a secondary host I'm moving to. The initial choice I made... well, I put in an order, and 36 hours (and 2 emails) later, I still haven't heard a word from them, so I went with another, cheaper option, who was MUCH more responsive. We'll see how this works out. Please give me until 10AM CST, after that, if there are any problems, let me know. I'm real curious to see how the performance on this new system is.

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


Naldru

The comments that were quoted were apparently from xepher.net
Learn to laugh at yourself, and you will never be without a source of amusement.

Tapewolf

Quote from: Naldru on March 26, 2010, 07:42:47 AM
The comments that were quoted were apparently from xepher.net
Yes, I forgot to mention that.  I quoted them because if the server hosting them went down, a link wouldn't work  >:3

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


JackTheCubiWolf

Ok, I know that now. Thanks! :D
I'm back, and tired.

AmigaDragon

But why should Comcast get between the browser and the server to tell you "can't be found"? Browsers can do that on their own, can't they?
"Cogito, ergo es. I think, therefore you is." Ray D. Tutto (King of the Moon) to Baron Munschaussen

Trazz

Comcast is evil. You should all know that by now.

Naldru

Actually, Verizon does the same thing.  By transmitting their own message when the domain name or IP address is unable to be reached, it provides the ISP with an opportunity to send additional advertising to the end user.  For example, they can forward the request to the search engine of their choice.

This has caused some problems.  Imagine that I create an application that sends an HTTP request to www.missmab.com once an hour.  Failure to get an HTTP response would mean that there is a problem with the server or a network problem preventing connection to the server.  By providing their own "not found" page, the ISP prevents such diagnostic software from functioning correctly.  I also some discussions questioning the legality of such actions since it is not compliant with the internet specifications.
Learn to laugh at yourself, and you will never be without a source of amusement.

Chakat Blackspots

Such reasons are why I use OpenDNS as my DNS provider.  http://www.opendns.com/

Time Warner/Road Runner Cable started doing something like what Comcast did, but for a time they allowed you to opt out of it.  So, I decided to use OpenDNS instead of RoadRunner as my DNS provider.  Much more reliable and less downtime.

Naldru

When my daughter went to Temple University (Philadelphia, PA), the ISP for her apartment building had one DNS server (I believe that it was in Colorado) servicing buildings scattered all over the country.  As you can imagine, response was abysmal.  I reset her computer to use the Temple University DNS server (after first checking with the IT group at Temple) and everything started working reliably.
Learn to laugh at yourself, and you will never be without a source of amusement.

AmigaDragon

Quote from: Trazz on March 26, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Comcast is evil. You should all know that by now.

How would I know anything about something I've never used?
"Cogito, ergo es. I think, therefore you is." Ray D. Tutto (King of the Moon) to Baron Munschaussen

Sprinkles

I have Comcast, but I keep getting a Firefox "problem loading page" error rather than Comcast's "don't mind us, we suck" error. Normally Firefox tells me it can't load a page when my internet is down, but it's just missmab.com, all other sites are fine :/

I am sadded.

Trazz

Quote from: AmigaDragon on March 27, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: Trazz on March 26, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Comcast is evil. You should all know that by now.

How would I know anything about something I've never used?

What, you've never heard somebody say "Comcast is evil"? I find that hard to believe

Naldru

I'd be hesitant to say that Comcast is evil compared to other ISP's.  Now if you said sloppy and prone to cutting corners, I would be more likely to agree.
Learn to laugh at yourself, and you will never be without a source of amusement.

Les

Long live Space Race, Long live... Molvania!

Tapewolf

Quote from: Les on March 31, 2010, 11:00:43 AM
Has xepher.net asploded again?

It's actually displaying a comprehensive status message for me.

Quote
Update 08:45 CST: The Planet just told me my server will "probably"
be setup in 2-3 hours. The move to this new VM won't even be done by
then, so if that happens, we'll just move straight into the physical
machine. Keep your fingers crossed.

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


Lego3400

#16
QuoteXepher.net is currently experiencing problems.
Sorry for the trouble, but I'll try to have it back up ASAP.

Apparently this new host simply can't handle the load, so
I'm moving us to a new one again. It's going very slowly...

Update 06:41 CST: 25% transfered. This is also stupidly slow.
I think it may be better than the first, but not a long term solution.

Update 07:30 CST: 30% transfered. Frak it! I'm buying a physical server.

Update 07:44 CST: Physical server on order with the planet.
Dual core, 4GB ram, 2x250GB disks, and for less than this VM.
I'm told it usually takes about a day to set that up. In the
meantime, I'll try to get us limping along on the VM.

Update 07:50 CST: Email is likely going down soon, and we'll switch
to partial service on the new system, with websites coming up as they're
transfered. Email will be the last to come back on last, to avoid
any lost messages.

Update 08:45 CST: The Planet just told me my server will "probably"
be setup in 2-3 hours. The move to this new VM won't even be done by
then, so if that happens, we'll just move straight into the physical
machine. Keep your fingers crossed.


--Xepher


Keleth

Pfffft, this is the internet.

People don't actually read messages.
Help! I'm gay!

Turnsky

Quote from: Drathorin on March 31, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Pfffft, this is the internet.

People don't actually read messages.

people read and understand proper english? surely you jest, good sir!

Dragons, it's what's for dinner... with gravy and potatoes, YUM!
Sparta? no, you should've taken that right at albuquerque..

Les

Was just wondering, was re-reading Abel's Story when suddenly 'File or Directory not found'.   :erk
Long live Space Race, Long live... Molvania!

Tapewolf

Quote from: Les on March 31, 2010, 11:45:29 AM
Was just wondering, was re-reading Abel's Story when suddenly 'File or Directory not found'.   :erk

Right.  As far as I know, the status message is only displayed if you view the main page, i.e. the root of the website.  Trying to retrieve other pages will just result in a 'file not found' error.

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


kazzellin

I'm getting the same message Tapewolf is getting; using Firefox with DSL through Qwest. I like the information I'm getting about it a lot better than some random 404 error message. ^^

Drayco84

Ditto here, but I'm using Time Warner.

Not to derail the topic or anything, but...
QuoteDual core, 4GB ram, 2x250GB disks
Forgive my lack of knowledge on web hosting, but... Is that it?! Is that powerful enough to be a server? It seems kinda... Low end by my standards... (Heck, I've seen gaming rigs with more processing power. Then again, gaming kinda uses all that processing power and then some...)

Tapewolf

Quote from: Drayco84 on March 31, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
Not to derail the topic or anything, but...
QuoteDual core, 4GB ram, 2x250GB disks
Forgive my lack of knowledge on web hosting, but... Is that it?! Is that powerful enough to be a server? It seems kinda... Low end by my standards... (Heck, I've seen gaming rigs with more processing power. Then again, gaming kinda uses all that processing power and then some...)

Well, I'm no expert but I think you'll find that xephernet is spending most of its time on disk I/O, caching and network, so the CPU is probably not your bottleneck.
Also it's probably a rack-mounted system with some kind of SCSI array, which tends to add an extra zero onto the price tag.

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


Drayco84

#24
Well, it also depends on the speed of that dual core CPU.

And rack mounted system with some kind of SCSI array? What about with something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402 Well, at least having a bunch of HDDs attached to it, anyway... (Seriously, I'm curious. I might want to branch out into this.)

Tapewolf

Quote from: Drayco84 on March 31, 2010, 02:51:10 PM
And rack mounted system with some kind of SCSI array? What about with something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402 Well, at least having a bunch of HDDs attached to it, anyway... (Seriously, I'm curious. I might want to branch out into this.)

If it's a typical 1U rack, the whole thing - motherboard, CPU, power supply etc. - has to fit into a space slightly less than 40mm high.

However, looking at what The Planet do, it looks more like he's renting one of their existing machines (which again, is probably either a 1U or 2U rack).

https://www.theplanet.com/servers/Default.aspx ...it's probably one of these packages with an extra upgrade or something like that.  As for what they actually look like, they don't seem to be saying.

J.P. Morris, Chief Engineer DMFA Radio Project * IT-HE * D-T-E


Congo Jack

Quote from: Turnsky on March 31, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on March 31, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Pfffft, this is the internet.

People don't actually read messages.

people read and understand proper english? surely you jest, good sir!
Seeing how two upper threads named "Umm..." and "Wow..."
:rolleyes

Mao

Quote from: Congo Jack on March 31, 2010, 03:28:07 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on March 31, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on March 31, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Pfffft, this is the internet.

People don't actually read messages.

people read and understand proper english? surely you jest, good sir!
Seeing how two upper threads named "Umm..." and "Wow..."
:rolleyes

Seeings how there are two top threads with simplistic titles such as "Umm..." and "Wow..."
:rolleyes

.... Fixed that for ya'. :P

Tiger_T

Small-ish update:
QuoteXepher.net is currently experiencing problems.
Sorry for the trouble, but I'll try to have it back up ASAP.

Apparently this new host simply can't handle the load, so
I'm moving us to a new one again. It's going very slowly...

Update 06:41 CST: 25% transfered. This is also stupidly slow.
I think it may be better than the first, but not a long term solution.

Update 07:30 CST: 30% transfered. Frak it! I'm buying a physical server.

Update 07:44 CST: Physical server on order with the planet.
Dual core, 4GB ram, 2x250GB disks, and for less than this VM.
I'm told it usually takes about a day to set that up. In the
meantime, I'll try to get us limping along on the VM.

Update 07:50 CST: Email is likely going down soon, and we'll switch
to partial service on the new system, with websites coming up as they're
transfered. Email will be the last to come back on last, to avoid
any lost messages.

Update 08:45 CST: The Planet just told me my server will "probably"
be setup in 2-3 hours. The move to this new VM won't even be done by
then, so if that happens, we'll just move straight into the physical
machine. Keep your fingers crossed.

Update 11:45 CST: I got the new server online an hour ago. I'm think
I'm just about done configuring it, then I just have to sync data.

Update 12:45 CST: Failure! System wouldn't boot. I've ordered KVM so
I'll have full console access. Soon as they get that setup, should be
about 60 minutes work still, then syncing. I did manage to sync about
20% of the user data in advance (before I crashed it) and it goes
REALLY fast, so that's good.

--Xepher
Still not there, but almost, it seems.
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I wouldn't be surprised to find they use either IBM or Intel Blade servers.

Darn things are bloody near indestructible once they are configured properly. :)

GAH - I have been lured into fiddling with forum tamagotchies.