09/04/08 [Abel 2 #29] - Home, or Not?

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Ganurath

Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: Feather Dancer on September 05, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)

Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
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Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: Feather Dancer on September 05, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)

Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.

I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.
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Sunblink

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I'm more curious about what Fa'Lina's going to say in the next comic than the Aniz is Edward theory, to be honest. I'm not exactly a fan of the Aniz = Edward theory anyway, and this is only because of the delivery and the repetitive speculation, not because of the theory itself.

It started off as a good idea, but now it's become the forum buttmonkey of speculations.

On the subject of Aniz, I'm a steadfast believer in the idea that Aniz is a terrible, irredeemable, cowardly bully, and nothing else.

So there. :U

Jairus

Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:49:12 PM
On the subject of Aniz, I'm a steadfast believer in the idea that Aniz is a terrible, irredeemable, cowardly bully, and nothing else.

So there. :U

I'm not really a fan either... I just spent an hour speculating trying to figure out all the loops and hoops you'd have to jump to get it to work. It could work... but it feels so complicated that I don't see how it is really feasible.

And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.
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Sunblink

Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.

Hooray! Someone agrees with me!

Let's start a club. :3

Lucheek

My brain seems to think that Edward killed Aniz.
I don't really know why, but that works forme.

Jairus

Quote from: Lucheek on September 05, 2008, 04:21:05 PM
My brain seems to think that Edward killed Aniz.
I don't really know why, but that works forme.
That... would be so perfect. Almost as perfect as Abel leaving his dad begging for mercy after a beatdown. It certainly sounds interesting, but the coincidences involved would be a little hard to bear.
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Aleolus

Ohh my, Fa'Lina does look angry in the last panel.  >.>  I wonder what she's planning on doing <.<  I hope she doesn't murderize Aniz too badly >.>

Prof B Hunnydew

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Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.

Hooray! Someone agrees with me!

Let's start a club. :3

Me me I will join..... I get the I hate Aniz buttons.

But seriously  There is one fact that this theory can't get around is Destania is a Cubi, and she would know or figure out that Aniz is Edward or a cubi after 20 years.  Edward was an Inn keeper, and retire adventurer, he is not going out and away from home.  He would be home, working everyday with her.  And why keep Alexsi alive, if Destania and Edward/Alexsi knew that each other was a cubi.

Also, Whose clan mark would the Cubi cub get if his parents are from different clans?  Is it a 50/50 chance?  Dan has Destania's clan mark.

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Jairus

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Dagardo

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Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on September 05, 2008, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.

Hooray! Someone agrees with me!

Let's start a club. :3

Me me I will join..... I get the I hate Aniz buttons.

But seriously  There is one fact that this theory can't get around is Destania is a Cubi, and she would know or figure out that Aniz is Edward or a cubi after 20 years.  Edward was an Inn keeper, and retire adventurer, he is not going out and away from home.  He would be home, working everyday with her.  And why keep Alexsi alive, if Destania and Edward/Alexsi knew that each other was a cubi.

Also, Whose clan mark would the Cubi cub get if his parents are from different clans?  Is it a 50/50 chance?  Dan has Destania's clan mark.

PBH



I could be mistaken but I remember reading that a 'cubi born from two 'cubi not of the same clan takes the clan marking of their more powerful parent. Ive been listening to the Leekspin-Soul Sucking Edition too much. :B

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with that cold face and that statement by Abel...

I'm expecting there will eventually be fisticuffs in store.

Dagardo

I'm pretty sure you know but he probably wouldnt have that cold face if he could feel emotions

Valynth

Quote from: Dagardo on September 05, 2008, 11:12:45 PM
I'm pretty sure you know but he probably wouldnt have that cold face if he could feel emotions

Spock considers you statement illogical.

Anyway, logical entities tend to seem cold to those of a more emotional state.  This coldness or distance applies to all things equally, with the possible exception of things the entity is thinking about, which can make the entity seem colder and more remote.
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Dagardo

So you're saying those who are speaking logically seem colder to those in an emotional state than they really are? Sorry if I'm inadvertently being irritating, but I'm kinda clueless to smart talk, even though people seem to tell me all the time I'm really smart. :B I guess I just don't pay attention.

Valynth

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Quote from: Dagardo on September 05, 2008, 11:38:44 PM
So you're saying those who are speaking logically seem colder to those in an emotional state than they really are? Sorry if I'm inadvertently being irritating, but I'm kinda clueless to smart talk, even though people seem to tell me all the time I'm really smart. :B I guess I just don't pay attention.

Maintaining a detached mind is key to noticing things that, if you allowed yourself to get angry or emotional, you would otherwise not notice.  For instance, if the bad guy is threatening a person close to the hero, the attached hero will charge headfirst at said baddie to try and stop him.  A detached/logical hero would monitor and analyze the baddie for weaknesses and exploit them at opportune moments to get the person away from the baddie, or kill the baddie before they can kill the hostage.
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Dagardo

Now I understand what you're saying... at least the part about a detached/logical hero. 'Cuz if they charge in without think thinking odds are they miss a vital detail and wind up dead. "Patience is a warriors greatest weapon." Quoted from Jak 3, said by Damos. And I assume he meant any one who fights, melee or otherwise.

On a side note something makes me wish i was like that and didn't feel emotions. >:3

Aurawyn

Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 05:14:06 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 05:02:28 AM
Okay, I can see that. In that case, why would Aniz breed with another clan if he wants to bolster his own clan's ranks, which is what it seems he's trying to do?
That's a good point.  On the other hand, if he really did fall for Destania, he might have put that project behind him.  Or maybe he just didn't know.

ok im a late comer to this discussion but Did anyone point out That.. Anzi took 375 years of banishment over staying in SAIA with Destania... Could he really have "Fallen for her?



Janus Whitefurr

Quote from: Yugo on September 05, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.

As one of the few voices of sanity, I'm quite obliged to be cheerful that other people - not just yourself - agree with my commentary. The number of wild and off the wall theories around here seem to only increase in number with every new comic that has even the tiniest of plot points.  :<

Quote from: Ganurath on September 05, 2008, 03:08:40 PM
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Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 06, 2008, 04:21:48 AM
Quote from: Yugo on September 05, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.

As one of the few voices of sanity, I'm quite obliged to be cheerful that other people - not just yourself - agree with my commentary. The number of wild and off the wall theories around here seem to only increase in number with every new comic that has even the tiniest of plot points.  :<
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I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.
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Dagardo

Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U

Naldru

Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U
I always assumed that it was an attempt to counter Destania's plans.
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Dagardo

Quote from: Naldru on September 06, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U
I always assumed that it was an attempt to counter Destania's plans.

Good point, and now i wonder if she has ways of infiltrating the dragons ranks and freeing Edward without a hitch, course the dragons may of thought of that and set something up... Quite a conundrum, at least for me. Well I guess its like I said, I don't pay a lot of attention.

And on an unrelated note, I agree with Fi, Hot Pockets FTW! :)

Naldru

Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
Good point, and now i wonder if she has ways of infiltrating the dragons ranks and freeing Edward without a hitch, course the dragons may of thought of that and set something up... Quite a conundrum, at least for me. Well I guess its like I said, I don't pay a lot of attention.

And on an unrelated note, I agree with Fi, Hot Pockets FTW! :)
Well, Biggs apparently has a source within the dragon ranks.  There was some speculation that it might be Pyroduck.

It may be madness to speculate.  But then, the Cheshire Cat was wise:  We're all mad, you know.



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Quote from: Jairus on September 06, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.

Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...

But that's just me.
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AmigaDragon

Quote from: Aleolus on September 05, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
Ohh my, Fa'Lina does look angry in the last panel.  >.>  I wonder what she's planning on doing <.<  I hope she doesn't murderize Aniz too badly >.>

Why not? I hope she doesn't do it too quickly.
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Naldru

#57
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 06, 2008, 02:24:43 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 06, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.

Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...

But that's just me.
But Destania can read Biggs's mind.  And that is going into a really twisted and warped place.
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Quote from: Naldru on September 06, 2008, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 06, 2008, 02:24:43 PM
Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...

But that's just me.
But Destania can read Biggs's mind.  And that is going into a really twisted and warped place.

And? How do we know that Biggs is not enunciating a previously agreed-upon cover story for the sake of any listening devices that might or might not be around?

After all, for all we know, Destania has already let him know that there are listening devices, and he's deliberately leaving them present so that the owners of them can hear what he wants them to hear...


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I should have just PM'd Jairus about that, because I seem to have positively ruined the thread here.  I can get 2 and 2 to equal 5 as well as anyone else, but I think this might be drifting a little too far, even for me.
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