2018-06-29 [DMFA#1849] - Taking pride in the little things

Started by Tuyu, June 29, 2018, 01:34:58 AM

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Tuyu

Never suspected that Regina was part warp-aci. Happiness, pleasure, sure. But pride?

AzureEdge

Quote from: Tuyu on June 29, 2018, 01:34:58 AM
Never suspected that Regina was part warp-aci. Happiness, pleasure, sure. But pride?
Maybe being proud with herself that she chose the exact perfect moment to use the vending machine and got the 2 extra candy bars?

Also, it seems Obvious Regina is cut from a whole different cloth than other demons. Sure she has had fantasies about going on killing sprees with Kria, but that now seems more due to  her seeing her as a mother figure and wanting to do things with her she knows Kria would enjoy. It is probably for this reason why Dark Pegasus seems to have had more success with her than anyone else in the family as he, while seemingly par for the course for a demon early on, is different enough from the others that he can understand Regina and helped her get to a place where she is actually happy than the forced upon expectations of what it means to be a demon.

Genesis

Aliph(did I spell that right?) seem less the murder spree type, more the conquering tyrant type. Well, aside from the undead genocide part, but from his perspective that's just correcting a typo. So I'd guess that's why Regina seems to be doing much better under his tutelage. Perhaps she'll even become lawful evil, instead of chaotic stupid.
"I will finish the painting. Of a cold, dark, and very gentle place. So that it might make a home for someone, someday" - The Painter

HaDDea

Hmm, it does seem that Regina is a bit of a minority for a demon (though perhaps an enforced minority, given cultural norms?); it seems most demons do enjoy/take pride in their rampages. Regina, conversely, seems to have not gotten much satisfaction out of hers. I wonder how many demons come to embrace rampaging versus enduring/disdaining them?

Quote from: Tuyu on June 29, 2018, 01:34:58 AM
Never suspected that Regina was part warp-aci. Happiness, pleasure, sure. But pride?

Bonus candy is bonus candy.  :boogie

Jasonrevall

I may have been wrong about Regina being evil. She could very well regret her reckless actions that lead to the death of Wildy's mother. Being told by demons that beings won't hesitate to kill demons they think are a threat may have lead her to a quick decision to engage the beings. Also after Amber revealed that general wasn't when I thought it was where they come from means she was in fact a child at the time of the event. Maybe she was afraid that demons may have killed her if she looked weak for regretting the actions she was taught were correct. Maybe she just didn't want to die and didn't know the actions to take so one side or the other didn't kill her. She made a terrible and horrible mistake and she couldn't even say she felt bad about it or she could have been potentially killed for being weak. This doesn't excuse her actions but can explain them. She was afraid and didn't want to die. Of course this all hinges on if she actually feels guilty and if thats actually what she was doing.

To be honest though I really like Regina's design so having her around till the end of DMFA would be nice. It's always fun to have the bad guys become the good guys although I'd prefer Aliph and Dan fighting side by side in the last arc of the comic. I mean some famous bad guys blew up entire worlds and became protags and don't even get me started on Loki. Regina can be one too or at least an anti hero.

Yeah it does kinda look like I'm doing a 180 on Regina but I've been re-watching FMA:Brotherhood with my friend and everyone has done something horrible in their past Regina would fit right in and i'd be a hypocrite if I couldn't also give Regina a chance as a likeable character with a backstory of murder if I can still love Greed as a character.
Forward ever onward upward aiming skyward.

Rafe

Well, getting an emotional evaluation from a Cubi is something that never occurred to me.

Being able to read someone's emotions has so far been something of a one-sided, invasive thing that Cubi do to feed on others' emotions. Seeing it turned into a kind of therapeutic tool that might be used to help someone face their true feelings is a great unexpected twist.

All we can see so far is this: Regina was not proud of what she did. Does she regret it? Maybe, maybe not. She acted violently at Wildy's, then had the confrontation with the Adventurers, and assumed she would feel excited and powerful - and still thinks she should feel this way, but she doesn't. I don't think this has anything to do with being afraid of anything, then or now. What this is about is Regina's very core identity, what she thinks of herself for feeling - and not feeling - the way she does.

She might not have ever thought anything of it, or at least faced up to it before, but hearing it from an expert emotion-reader has finally smacked her in the face with it. I guess we'll see if she's able to deal with it at last.
Rafe

Shakal

Many things have been said regarding Regina recently, but I really have to give her my full support on this.

TWO Candybars.

Tapewolf

Quote from: Rafe on June 29, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
Well, getting an emotional evaluation from a Cubi is something that never occurred to me.

Being able to read someone's emotions has so far been something of a one-sided, invasive thing that Cubi do to feed on others' emotions. Seeing it turned into a kind of therapeutic tool that might be used to help someone face their true feelings is a great unexpected twist.

There might have been a bit of that in SAIA, especially during Dan's arrival, but it is an under-used concept.  Though to be fair, it's only feasible if you're somewhere that allows 'Cubi to live unmolested, and there seem to be precious few of those places.

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Gelpi

Quote from: Rafe on June 29, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
Well, getting an emotional evaluation from a Cubi is something that never occurred to me.

Being able to read someone's emotions has so far been something of a one-sided, invasive thing that Cubi do to feed on others' emotions. Seeing it turned into a kind of therapeutic tool that might be used to help someone face their true feelings is a great unexpected twist.

I feel like we only saw this aspect in Abel's story and when Dan went to SAIA.  The comic tends to focus on adventurers so we don't always get to see the more mundane cubi.  I always liked that in Abel's story the Siar clan did some pretty textbook monster things but still had members who could integrate into being society, like the priest at the funeral.  Or how the fear clan invests in horror films while the lust clan makes pornos.  A cubi therapist wouldn't be out of the question. 

Nightmask

There's no surprise why Regina feels no pride in what happened, because it wasn't anything she wanted to do in the first place.  She accidentally killed a nice mother who gave her cookies and when she ran to get away from the situation ended up in a fight for her life against people that simply saw her as a demon to kill and that was enough.  So pretty much everything she's done since, with everyone thinking she was on a rampage when she really wasn't, has been to avoid truly looking over her emotions and how she feels about what happened hence her scripted response to her boss.  So will this be a turning point for her as she faces the feelings she's been denying, with her feeling regret and remorse, or will it be a moment where she continues to ignore them and cling to her facade rather than grow.  Will she decide demon culture is not for her and to be her own person and if she does how will other demons respond to her (as was pointed out to the protagonist in Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple his perceived weakness was responsible for far more thugs attacking him than the weaker but more seemingly powerful people around him, Regina could find herself having to eliminate a number of demons before they accept she's not weak).  Then again how are other demons responding to Lorenda who also doesn't seem to go on rampages (although she's apparently killed and eaten at least as many people as Regina killed that day).