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Title: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on October 28, 2011, 12:32:22 AM
Oh man... that last panel.
Amber, I applaud you!

It makes sense that a member of clan Taun is the department head.

On another note, we now have our Demoman Demonwoman!
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Attic Rat on October 28, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
The thing Dan should say if he wants his battle instructor to pay attention:
"Can you train me well enough to get into her classroom?"

:mwaha
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: lilpuppy23 on October 28, 2011, 01:54:05 AM
It's interesting, the second I saw Quill, I thought of Taun. Consequently, I immediately thought Quill was female.

Only AFTER I read Dan's comments did I think Quill was male.

Then again, I distinguish gender in the comic based on the corner of each character's eye. Rounded? Male. Pointed? Female. I think the point is the longer eyelash some women have.

NOTE: The above is based solely upon my personal observations of Amber's drawing style and do not in any way reflect my actual personal beliefs in terms of distinguishing gender. I know Guys with long eyelashes and girls with NO eyelashes IRL.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 28, 2011, 03:27:02 AM
The eyepatch is an interesting touch. Since there's healing that can re-attach wings (cf Abel and Aaryanna) you'd think that the healers can fix broken eyes as well, unless it's seriously messed up.

Which makes me wonder about _that_ backstory as well...


... Any chances of that showing up as the result of a wallpaper war, Ambaargh? ;-]
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Tapewolf on October 28, 2011, 03:32:32 AM
Mink seems to be running away.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Wanderer on October 28, 2011, 03:39:18 AM
Taun's clan. Dan, make a note: if you ever think you're ready to enter his class... you're wrong.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: MT Hazard on October 28, 2011, 06:01:10 AM
I wonder if any of the fighting teachers have any issues with clan Cyra

Dan: Hi! I'm thinking of taking your class!
Quill: You don't look like a fighter, what clan are you from?
Dan: Cyra
Quill: *Insert your own response here*

I'm going with 'goes slightly pale but keeps composure.'

What does everybody else think?
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Wurgel on October 28, 2011, 07:33:50 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 28, 2011, 03:32:32 AM
Mink seems to be running away.

i would more say, he is still following.

Frame 1: he is following and going to pass the the Portal, that Dan has passed.
Frame 2: he is passing that Portal from the inside of the training-room, so he is still behind Dan

QuoteInsert Quote
Then again, I distinguish gender in the comic based on the corner of each character's eye. Rounded? Male. Pointed? Female. I think the point is the longer eyelash some women have.

OK, new mission:
Check thesis
If correct, apply to Mink (or was his gender confirmed and i didn't found it?)
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Turnsky on October 28, 2011, 09:16:22 AM
hopefully Dan's training sessions will be gentle on the decor. >.>
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on October 28, 2011, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 28, 2011, 03:27:02 AM
The eyepatch is an interesting touch. Since there's healing that can re-attach wings (cf Abel and Aaryanna) you'd think that the healers can fix broken eyes as well, unless it's seriously messed up.

Which makes me wonder about _that_ backstory as well...


... Any chances of that showing up as the result of a wallpaper war, Ambaargh? ;-]




Maybe she's just trying to preserve night vision in case the lights suddenly go off; I could see that happening in a combat training situation.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: justacritic on October 28, 2011, 11:09:33 AM
Mink's eyes are more of a square though...
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Alondro on October 28, 2011, 11:33:09 AM
Quill = Cubi-muscle chick = No need to be seductive when stealing Being souls.

Quill:  I'M EATING YOUR SOUL AND YER GONNA SHUT UP AND LIKE IT!

Being:  Meep!  Ok!  Just don't hurt me!  *as soul is being eaten*  Wait a minute... ack... X_x
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: joshofspam on October 28, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
Being of the clan of avengers and sworn protectors of the cubi race, I could see her being surprisingly neutral in personality to Dan until she got a feel for what Dan is really like.

Though that could go the other way and Taun's might be a little conflicted by their sworn duty and how they feel about a clan that started the dragon way in their eyes.

I wonder if it's a common trait for a Taun to be big? Not just muscle, she's so tall! :blink
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Infranscia on October 28, 2011, 12:26:39 PM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/DPTDTKF/Smileys/Aizen/AIhappy.gif) Yeeeaaah!  Go clan Taun!  Show 'em what we're made of when they take one glance!


Quill appears to be some kind of giraffe variant.  Which seems kind of interesting considering the nature of real giraffes, though it's already been established that the carnivore/herbivore-animal thing doesn't mean much in DMFA (mentioned here (http://missmab.com/Demo/livestock.php)).

That one lizard in the second panel also seems to be practicing the 'taunt your opponent so they get enraged' strategy. X3
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Prroul on October 28, 2011, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on October 28, 2011, 06:01:10 AM
I wonder if any of the fighting teachers have any issues with clan Cyra

Dan: Hi! I'm thinking of taking your class!
Quill: You don't look like a fighter, what clan are you from?
Dan: Cyra
Quill: *Insert your own response here*

I'm going with 'goes slightly pale but keeps composure.'

What does everybody else think?

I'll go with:

"Oh? Good." *whistles, wall o' beef walks up, you can't see the head because Dan's eye level is about on par with the muscled chest* "Brick? Check out the newbie. See if he's worth anything. Don't do anything that will piss off Fa'Lina, other than that... let's see if Cyra's rep is worth it."

One more thing...

Okay, that's only 3/5 trainers found... and one of 'em happens to be the Head Bi... er Sensei. So the other two combat trainers? I'mma gonna go out on a limb and say they probably aren't teaching physical combat. Which means at least one devoted to magical combat techniques. After all, emotion-jamming an opponent can be an easy way to throw them off balance.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: iceick on October 28, 2011, 12:57:54 PM
I looked at the Demo 101 page and from the looks of it, Quill isn't just from clan Taun, but is actually Taun's daughter.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Tapewolf on October 28, 2011, 01:28:54 PM
Quote from: Prroul on October 28, 2011, 12:39:56 PM
Okay, that's only 3/5 trainers found... and one of 'em happens to be the Head Bi... er Sensei. So the other two combat trainers? I'mma gonna go out on a limb and say they probably aren't teaching physical combat. Which means at least one devoted to magical combat techniques. After all, emotion-jamming an opponent can be an easy way to throw them off balance.

That only works with empaths, though.  'Cubi are pretty scarce in the world as a whole, as I understand it.  It wouldn't surprise me if magical combat was only touched on here, and dealt with properly in the magic-oriented classes,  but I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Sunblink on October 28, 2011, 02:12:11 PM
Androgynous battle teachers?

So very relevant to my interests. >:D
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: thegayhare on October 28, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
is it just me or does Brady seem to be hinting that he knows this from more then just a combat perspective...  *wink wink nudge nudge*

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 28, 2011, 03:27:02 AM
The eyepatch is an interesting touch. Since there's healing that can re-attach wings (cf Abel and Aaryanna) you'd think that the healers can fix broken eyes as well, unless it's seriously messed up.

Which makes me wonder about _that_ backstory as well...


... Any chances of that showing up as the result of a wallpaper war, Ambaargh? ;-]

could be magical damage, or a powerful curse.

or hell it could even be something that keeps her power levels down (like the demon that captain in bleach wears) so she doesn't accidentally put her students in traction.  When she puts the in intensive care she'd want them to know it was on purpose
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Mao on October 28, 2011, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on October 28, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
is it just me or does the Mole seem to be hinting that he knows this from more then just a combat perspective...  *wink wink nudge nudge*

If by mole-thing you mean Brady (the first combat instructor), he's actually a sloth. :3
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Anri on October 28, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Wait, who's instructor #2. >_>
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: thegayhare on October 28, 2011, 03:33:36 PM
Sorry corrected, couldn't remember his name
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Alondro on October 28, 2011, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 28, 2011, 03:27:02 AM
The eyepatch is an interesting touch. Since there's healing that can re-attach wings (cf Abel and Aaryanna) you'd think that the healers can fix broken eyes as well, unless it's seriously messed up.

Duh!  It's obviously where her Hollow hole is!  Like Nnoitora's (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Nnoitra_Jiruga) .  It's so obvious!   :giggle
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: joshofspam on October 28, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
I wonder if Quill will get in one of those crushing hand shakes before they part ways? :3
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Amber Williams on October 28, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
For those who may be confuzzled, a handy dandy guide by me.

Battle Professors:

Basic level:
Brady:  Male being (sloth) who is a retired Adventurer.  Specializes in self defense and weaponry.
Artemis: Female Cubi (horse, yet to be seen).  Specializes in self defense using ones Cubi abilities.

Advanced level:
????-  Female Cubi (brown bird).  Specializes in using ones Cubi abilities to launch an assault.
????-  Male demon (yet to be seen)  Specializes in battle techniques and tactics
These two are married.

Expert level:
Quill - Female Cubi (Giraffe with fox markings).  Retired adventurer, member of Taun's clan. Besides teaching she also oversees the entire department and acts as an adviser/counselor to students.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Zen on October 28, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Wait a sec how many Androgynous characters we have now?
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: McKathlin on October 28, 2011, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on October 28, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
I wonder if it's a common trait for a Taun to be big? Not just muscle, she's so tall! :blink

The tallness might come with being a giraffe.  But the muscle is pure Taun; I've never seen a giraffe that buff.

BTW, congrats to Amber on the consistent Monday-Friday updates of late.  As someone working on getting-things-done myself, I bet that feels good.

:goamber
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Naldru on October 28, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on October 28, 2011, 03:39:18 AM
Taun's clan. Dan, make a note: if you ever think you're ready to enter his class... you're wrong.
You don't have to be in the same category as the teacher to take their course.  Bob Barker (the host of the TV show The Price is Right) took lessons from Chuck Norris, and I don't think that anyone would argue that Chuck Norris and Bob Barker fit in the same category.

With regard to the eye patch, my first thought was of Prince Corum from the Swords Trilogy (Michael Moorcock).  When he lifts his eyepatch, people are usually going to die.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on October 28, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Naldru on October 28, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on October 28, 2011, 03:39:18 AM
Taun's clan. Dan, make a note: if you ever think you're ready to enter his class... you're wrong.
You don't have to be in the same category as the teacher to take their course.  Bob Barker (the host of the TV show The Price is Right) took lessons from Chuck Norris, and I don't think that anyone would argue that Chuck Norris and Bob Barker fit in the same category.

With regard to the eye patch, my first thought was of Prince Corum from the Swords Trilogy (Michael Moorcock).  When he lifts his eyepatch, people are usually going to die.



She doesn't have the matching hand though. Shame on you :P
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: MT Hazard on October 28, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Check the hips Dan! Won't want to the one who called her 'Sir' by accident.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: lilpuppy23 on October 28, 2011, 09:59:53 PM

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Then again, I distinguish gender in the comic based on the corner of each character's eye. Rounded? Male. Pointed? Female. I think the point is the longer eyelash some women have.

OK, new mission:
Check thesis
If correct, apply to Mink (or was his gender confirmed and i didn't found it?)

Quote from: justacritic on October 28, 2011, 11:09:33 AM
Mink's eyes are more of a square though...


I am looking at the corner of Mink's eyes. I see a long eyelash (as in, is pointed).

Therefore, based upon previous observations of Amber's drawing style, I am inclined to believe Mink is female.

Of course, Amber would have to be the last word on that. All is still a theory. Just a rather well supported theory. Like the big bang for example.

Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on October 28, 2011, 10:37:54 AM



Maybe she's just trying to preserve night vision in case the lights suddenly go off; I could see that happening in a combat training situation.

Like the Mythbusters Pirate special :D

PS: it was confirmed, eye patches really COULD have been used to keep one eye preserved in night vision for in the dark battles/environments
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Ted Schiller on October 29, 2011, 12:28:54 AM
Whatever else may be said of Dan, he respects female fighters.  So there's one mistake he won't be making.   :sword

Of course, if he is a bit of a smart aleck (ya think?) he might say not only can he hold his own, he could do it wearing high heel shoes.   >:3

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: ArchTeryx on October 29, 2011, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 28, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
For those who may be confuzzled, a handy dandy guide by me.

Battle Professors:

...

Expert level:
Quill - Female Cubi (Giraffe with fox markings).  Retired adventurer, member of Taun's clan. Besides teaching she also oversees the entire department and acts as an adviser/counselor to students.

You know, I thought Quill was a combination of giraffe and African Wild Dog.  (the tail and hips certainly were suggestive of wild dog in the mix).  Considering both species' relative strengths, that would be one TRULY formidable opponent, never mind the battle training and experience.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: LoneHowler on October 30, 2011, 03:52:53 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on October 28, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Check the hips Dan! Won't want to the one who called her 'Sir' by accident.

I work in a field with a uniform and authority. Im also very androgynous. If I get mistakenly called sir, and the person realizes their mistake I'll usually say "It's ok I consider being called 'sir' as a respect for the uniform"  That is if I'm in a good mood.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Arcblade on October 30, 2011, 09:40:16 AM
In some respect systems, it doesn't matter which gender you are.  You're still called "sir."

Also, I suspect Amber isn't going to tell us what gender Mink is.  I still hold by my theory of octopodes being able to change their genders every couple weeks or so.  Whatever gender Mink is right now, ze might be the other in a few weeks, rendering the question moot. 
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: Arcblade on October 30, 2011, 09:40:16 AM
In some respect systems, it doesn't matter which gender you are.  You're still called "sir."

Also, I suspect Amber isn't going to tell us what gender Mink is.  I still hold by my theory of octopodes being able to change their genders every couple weeks or so.  Whatever gender Mink is right now, ze might be the other in a few weeks, rendering the question moot. 

She told us already. "Squiggly".
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 30, 2011, 04:42:49 PM
Being outside the generally accepted binary, I take "ma'am" and "sir" in stride. I usually just go with it and pretend to be whatever gender they assume I am to avoid the awkwardness. It honestly doesn't bother me, but some people get really embarrassed if they call me a guy/gal and then think I'm a gal/guy.

When it was revealed that Mink wasn't in the perceived binary, I was thrilled!
I think my reaction was: "Another person who knows genderqueer people exist :U!"
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
While I don't wish to rain on your parade, there, and fully support LGBT people in whatever form they happen to be or wish to be, I believe that Mink is physically different. Not even close to Trans, let alone such waffly descriptives as cross-dressing...

Of course, Amber gets to state the law, but until she does, that's my take on it. And you're welcome to disagree, even, since that's my personal view and not any sort of official line...
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 31, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
No, no. I would agree that Mink is different than, say, a human man in the body of a woman. Rather, I don't think Mink is in the clear-cut "boy" or "girl" categories.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Mao on October 31, 2011, 06:11:11 PM
I'd just flat out say:  Genderless.  Both physically and mentally.  Mink is a squiggle, and that's the best we'll get and all we really need.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: Naldru on October 31, 2011, 06:14:40 PM
Not only is it the best we get and all we need, any more would risk being too much information.
Title: Re: 10/28/2011 [DMFA #1258] - Meet the Quill
Post by: AmigaDragon on November 02, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
While I believe Mink more closely falls into the "guy" category, I can accept long term ambiguity on the matter in the story, just like Abel's orientation (straight but keeping the perception ambiguous with "not interested").