The Clockwork Mansion

It seems Abel doesn't like Insectis (or bugs for that matter) all that much  :P

Still... I bet Chicki will find a way into Jyrras' home. She seems pretty determined to get some good coverage :3

Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on August 20, 2010, 06:42:55 AM
It seems Abel doesn't like Insectis (or bugs for that matter) all that much  :P

It's quite possible that the Insectis have only announced their existence during the time he was at SAIA.

(And reading Amber's rant, the picture Ren and I did for her birthday may perhaps not have been the most appropriate one for this point in time.  And Amber, these things happen, I don't think anyone can blame you for it)

Everyone has those moments, Amber. I'm sure the fanbase will forgive. Maybe.

It seems that Abel hasn't really taken any of the supplied courses that may have been useful at any given point. After all, didn't he take a class on grass-growing of all things?

Ah Ha! Able is a racist, too.

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_651.php

They are so much alike, it's as if they were somehow, strangely connected.

Quote from: bradley535 on August 20, 2010, 06:59:18 AM
Ah Ha! Able is a racist, too.

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_651.php

They are so much alike, it's as if they were somehow, strangely connected.

Insert the obligatory Aniz comment

Hey Amber,
It's completely understandable how you were feeling. Those sort of things can creep up on you suddenly and the worst part is you're not always sure what spurred them. To be honest, sometimes I feel it's a good idea to casually think of things that could have caused it and see if there's a change you can make in your life or lesson you can learn that can help you onward, but that's a mild suggestion on my behalf and naturally you don't want to fall into the trap of agonising over every subpar moment in your life.

Anyway, I completely understand and I wish you all the best.

Also, happy birthday yesterday! Sorry I didn't get you anything.

Looks like he didn't take the camera, hopefully someone can intercept chikki before there's  a 2 page spread on 'Jyrrus's incubi lover.'

Give J a few minutes, he can probably come up with a device that destroys cameras and makes toast.

I might react similarly if I saw giant bug things for the first time. You think crushing damage would be better against an insectis?

Don't worry too much Amber, stuff happens. I'm sure everyone will understand. "Remember, when life's got you down, throw it into godmode and keep kicking butt!" - Cory Rouse

Aww, you don't need to apologise Amber, we all lose it from time to time.

Bottling it up and letting out out all at once beats the alternative (just being generally bitchy al the time)

At least that's how I excuse my bottle up and cry every 6-12 months method XD

Well, at least Abel is about to have an interesting discussion with Jyras.
I'm sure he's looking forward to it .... NOT ! 

:D





Regarding Amber ... well, next thing is nausea in the morning, right ?
And after that, menopause ?

Just kidding, just kidding.


Seriously though, women have some strange hormone cycles that sometimes gets the best of them.
Even when there's nothing seriously wrong, the hormones can overwhelm them from time to time.
Which sometimes can put them into full cry / rage mode at the tip of a hat.

I should know, my mother was that way.
She "ran hot and cold" as they say.

Still love mah mom depite it, perhaps even because of it.
So don't worry - Your Real friends will know the truth.

:hug

Amber, I'd like to add my voice to the chorus here. Don't beat yourself up over it. Sometimes exploding is just the best thing to do. As long as you do it without hurting anyone (including yourself), then it can be therapeutic.

*pats Amber on the head*

Anyways looks like whomever said Abel thought he was icked out by Chicki was right. Poor Abel.

Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on August 20, 2010, 06:42:55 AM
She seems pretty determined to get some good coverage :3

I keep reading this as some good cleavage. I fear that I am beyond help.

Quote from: Brownie on August 20, 2010, 06:58:20 AM
It seems that Abel hasn't really taken any of the supplied courses that may have been useful at any given point.

I don't think Abel intended to ever leave SAIA at all.

Quote from: MT Hazard on August 20, 2010, 07:37:44 AM
Looks like he didn't take the camera, hopefully someone can intercept chikki before there's  a 2 page spread on 'Jyrrus's incubi lover.'

Don't be silly. This rates at least front page, and page 3. And a weekend special. A 3-D movie is probably already in the making.

But seriously, breaking into Jyrras' house, right in front of a paparazza (spelling!) with a camera, is going to haunt him for a long, long time.

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 20, 2010, 10:40:43 AMSeriously though, women have some strange hormone cycles that sometimes gets the best of them.

I don't think hormonal craziness is just a female thing. A fourteen-year-old male brain is the single most one-track thing in the universe. And then there's that whole I'm 50 years old, gotta buy a Porsche thing.

Quote from: Bjalf on August 20, 2010, 11:42:20 AM

Quote from: Brownie on August 20, 2010, 06:58:20 AM
It seems that Abel hasn't really taken any of the supplied courses that may have been useful at any given point.

I don't think Abel intended to ever leave SAIA at all.

I'm not sure about never leaving - chances are pretty slim that Fa'Lina would let him kill Aniz on-campus, after all.
That aside, I agree.  If Abel had left in a planned manner, he'd have been able to take a lot of refresher or "that would be handy!" courses immediately before leaving.

I give you hugs Amber.

-hug-

I wonder if the 'her' that recommended the 'breaking in' class was either Fa'Lina or Destania?  The former is probably more likely, at any rate.

Hmm...  Abel seems to be biting his tongue.  Hard.  My apologies if I sound nit-picky.  I do think that it could work just as well if he was just grimacing, though.

And thinking of the 'sick' thing, I'm suddenly thinking that the title of today's strip could have a double-meaning, somewhat.

Insectis.  Yick.  :U

I've got to say it... ick-face Abel is incredibly cute.

All the best, Amber, hope things get back to what passes for normal ASAP.

looks like Abel has the same dislike of the bugs that I have, and not just spiders. Who would of thought it?

How much ya wanna bet that Able's reaction to Chicki is Amber's response to the buglady's Darkhorse Ensamblage?  *Puts up 10 dollars*

I sure hope a movie is made about this.

It'll be full of action, adventure, fanservice and most importantly be almost totally inaccurate.

http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_755.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_755.php)

I am quite sure now, that Abel really hates bugs. Or any kind of insect whatever for that matter...

Quote from: Tapewolf on August 20, 2010, 11:55:40 AM

Quote from: Bjalf on August 20, 2010, 11:42:20 AM
I don't think Abel intended to ever leave SAIA at all.

I'm not sure about never leaving - chances are pretty slim that Fa'Lina would let him kill Aniz on-campus, after all.

Interesting point. How was Abel going to kill his father? He seemed extremely reluctant to leave SAIA.

On the other hand, why did Fa'Lina spare Aniz? I got the impression that it was only due to politics. Would she allow Abel to kill Aniz at SAIA? Aniz would not be a student there, and Abel have certainly earned the right to revenge.

Quote from: lilpuppy23 on August 20, 2010, 02:07:33 PM
I am quite sure now, that Abel really hates bugs. Or any kind of insect whatever for that matter...

Well, Dan certainly didn't help matters ...  >3

Thank goodness.  For some reason when I saw the last panel, without looking at the words, I thought that bug had KISSED him or something....  >.<  UGGGHHHH....

Quote from: Bjalf on August 20, 2010, 02:24:47 PM
Interesting point. How was Abel going to kill his father? He seemed extremely reluctant to leave SAIA.

I really, really don't know.  None of it really adds up.
I can only imagine that he meant to intercept Aniz when he left the academy, or somehow persuade Fa'Lina to tell him where Aniz went using her foresight (though that might not work if he has to be in Fa'Lina's presence for several months for her to get a lock).
Either that or he believed that Fa'Lina would allow him to do it, but that doesn't make much sense either.  For one, if we assume that Aniz didn't screw up a second time, the newly-arrived student would want Abel dead.

QuoteOn the other hand, why did Fa'Lina spare Aniz? I got the impression that it was only due to politics. Would she allow Abel to kill Aniz at SAIA? Aniz would not be a student there, and Abel have certainly earned the right to revenge.

"Many that live deserve death.  And some that die deserve life.  Can you give it to them?  Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.  For even the very wise cannot see all ends.  ... My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Fa'Lina Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least."
--Gandalf the Grey, Fellowship of the Ring by J.R.R. Tolkien

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Quote from: Tapewolf on August 20, 2010, 11:55:40 AM

Quote from: Bjalf on August 20, 2010, 11:42:20 AM
I don't think Abel intended to ever leave SAIA at all.

I'm not sure about never leaving - chances are pretty slim that Fa'Lina would let him kill Aniz on-campus, after all.

Interesting point. How was Abel going to kill his father? He seemed extremely reluctant to leave SAIA.

On the other hand, why did Fa'Lina spare Aniz? I got the impression that it was only due to politics. Would she allow Abel to kill Aniz at SAIA? Aniz would not be a student there, and Abel have certainly earned the right to revenge.

Well, if Aniz was so dumb as to show up in front of Dee, Aary, and perhaps Abel , i think by her original reaction, she'd just phone Wendy Northcutt , bring in muffins, and perhaps conjure an arena for them so that other students don't come to harm

Edited out to keep the thread clear of "The silly". Lest I provoke yet another forum member.

I totally forgot, assumptions are for dumb folk that are not capable to grasp the complicated concept of science and, proving things with actual research rather then jumping to conclusions.

Last I checked, she hates it when people jump to that conclusion.

I would too.

It's a pretty stupid assumption.

Seriously?  You thought that was a good topic of discussion, Lone_Wolf?

Rude.

Beyond Rude.

Somehow I doubt Amber's having a baby. Some people just have 'blah' moments for no reason whatsoever.

Quote from: Madd the Sane on August 20, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Somehow I doubt Amber's having a baby. Some people just have 'blah' moments for no reason whatsoever.

I'd think she'd tell us if she was.

On to ignoring that post, and replacing it with: what would you say to Abel if you could break the fourth wall right now?

If that's not on topic enough, then, where do you think Abel will find Jyrras? My guess is in his tent in the middle of the living room.

Is now a bad time to mention I hate bugs? The only kind that don't creep me out are those rolly Polly ones that are like the Armadillos of the bug world.

You mean pill-bugs?

Also, does Abel's reaction seem... girly to anyone else?

Quote from: Inumo on August 20, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
what would you say to Abel if you could break the fourth wall right now?

Dude, you have a huuuge spider on your back!

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If that's not on topic enough, then, where do you think Abel will find Jyrras? My guess is in his tent in the middle of the living room.

The tent is in the basement. But is it in the regular basement, or the top-secret laboratory basement?

Quote from: Madd the Sane on August 21, 2010, 01:39:26 AM
Also, does Abel's reaction seem... girly to anyone else?

Naah, it's probably just the skirt.   :giggle

Quote from: Bjalf on August 21, 2010, 02:21:06 AM

Quote from: Inumo on August 20, 2010, 09:16:59 PMwhat would you say to Abel if you could break the fourth wall right now?

Dude, you have a huuuge spider on your back!

I'd totally put a dancing catarpillar on his back.
And it would be all like ... "STOP! Hammer time !"

(http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pLBbvDeehL74dkhdYm8HsbZLS3f6enSCTYggGS8Lt5tlljTl9yNdjV2JqgD2Ubpqh1ixuPx3ejWwbHDIazJOU6w/mchammer.gif?psid=1)

Quote from: Bjalf on August 20, 2010, 11:42:20 AM

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 20, 2010, 10:40:43 AMSeriously though, women have some strange hormone cycles that sometimes gets the best of them.

I don't think hormonal craziness is just a female thing. A fourteen-year-old male brain is the single most one-track thing in the universe. And then there's that whole I'm 50 years old, gotta buy a Porsche thing.

Aw, but Porches are fun. :)

Seriously, after 30-40 years on the jobmarket, raising several kids and all that, I'd want a little fun stuff in my life too.
Besides, the wifes of men that buy Porches are probably the lucky ones, because the ones that don't buy Porches usually has a mistress.

Quote from: Inumo on August 20, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
On to ignoring that post, and replacing it with: what would you say to Abel if you could break the fourth wall right now?

I'd probably start by smacking that blubbering pussy a few times with my ALL MIGHTY BACKHAND OF JUSTICE, then make him go hug the bug and say sorry for being so rude.

God. What a pussy.

Quote from: Alteisentier on August 21, 2010, 07:10:37 AM
God. What a pussy.

Well, he is a feline.

Edit:
http://www.missmab.com/Cast/abel.php

Quote from: Bjalf on August 21, 2010, 07:13:27 AM

Quote from: Alteisentier on August 21, 2010, 07:10:37 AM
God. What a pussy.

Well, he is a feline.

He is? I thought he was a dog or something.

I don't think Chicki's quite as attractive as we've been led to believe... We see her through both Amber's highly stylized filter over the comic world and the generic cuteness inherent in the Anime/Animesque genre. (She makes even creatures of rotting flesh and exposed bone look attractive!)

To be fair to Abel, he's been looking at an OVERSIZED FLYING ANT that likely sounds like a swarm of cicada when speaking... I'd be freaked out too! She's likely more the stuff of Nightmares, or at least (as demonstrated by Abel) Nausea-inducing to mammals.

Quote from: Inumo on August 20, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
If that's not on topic enough, then, where do you think Abel will find Jyrras? My guess is in his tent in the middle of the living room.

IIRC, the last we saw Jyrras, he was holding a rather large knife (couldn't find the link!)...Methinks that when Abel does find Jy, either hilarity or pointy will ensue.


To Amber: We all need to vent/ cry/ rage once in a while, even when there's no reason for it. I hope you're feeling better soon, and never apologize for taking time to look after yourself *hugs*  :mowcookie

Quote from: Scow2 on August 21, 2010, 09:25:50 AM
I don't think Chicki's quite as attractive as we've been led to believe... We see her through both Amber's highly stylized filter over the comic world and the generic cuteness inherent in the Anime/Animesque genre. (She makes even creatures of rotting flesh and exposed bone look attractive!)

To be fair to Abel, he's been looking at an OVERSIZED FLYING ANT that likely sounds like a swarm of cicada when speaking... I'd be freaked out too! She's likely more the stuff of Nightmares, or at least (as demonstrated by Abel) Nausea-inducing to mammals.

Well, i guess neither would be horses, poodles and other stuffs .. not to mention the undead in question seemed good enough for Dan (though that's a poor indicator) .... the problem with these is that they are fictional , and mostly done by one person so is hard to say what of the pics represents their true appearance and what is just what the style does to them.

Fun science fact: If they did make bugs that big, they would very quickly die, either from asphyxiation, oxygen deprivation, or simple trauma brought on by being crushed under their own weight.

I'm not sure which would happen first, though presumably the fact that their heart didn't work would kill them sooner then the fact that they couldn't breathe.

Another fun fact: 99.99999%* misuse the word "bug." Example: Lady bugs are not bugs. They are beetles. Pill bugs are also not bugs. They are not even insects. They are isopods.

Remember: Bugs suck, beetles chew.

*Statistic made up

hmm...  i am unsure what is the limit since during certain geological periods there were insects that were about third as big moving about.
There definitely are problems with scaling something with this structure, but even if she has gone beyond the physical limits, it hasn't been so far as to be obviously silly.
Not to mention... real insects don't have access to fire and earth magic either....

Quote from: danman on August 22, 2010, 06:00:56 AM
hmm...  i am unsure what is the limit since during certain geological periods there were insects that were about third as big moving about.

There was more oxygen in the air then.

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There definitely are problems with scaling something with this structure, but even if she has gone beyond the physical limits, it hasn't been so far as to be obviously silly.

Well, Chicki doesn't have an ant body. But scaling up a regular ant like in a B-movie, that would be (and is!) silly.

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Not to mention... real insects don't have access to fire and earth magic either....

Hey, there are fire ants!   :B

Quote from: Bjalf on August 22, 2010, 06:25:21 AM

Quote from: danman on August 22, 2010, 06:00:56 AM
hmm...  i am unsure what is the limit since during certain geological periods there were insects that were about third as big moving about.

There was more oxygen in the air then.

Oxygen isn't the only problem, besides, noone ever talked about the botanics of furrae - there's plausible deniability... although since the insectis do live underground.... maybe she has some basic closed circulatory system - after all it is an hyper-evolved intelligent insect we are talking about.

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There definitely are problems with scaling something with this structure, but even if she has gone beyond the physical limits, it hasn't been so far as to be obviously silly.

Well, Chicki doesn't have an ant body. But scaling up a regular ant like in a B-movie, that would be (and is!) silly.

Of course. Sometimes i guess the B in the movies stands for "Blbost!" (our word which meas something like stupid nonsense)

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Not to mention... real insects don't have access to fire and earth magic either....

Hey, there are fire ants!   :B

Hey there are fire ants!
Hey they be in yer pants!
Now ya do antsy dance!
:D

I love fantasy comics.

As it means the regular world's laws and physics don't have to work like we know they do.

Why?


It's FICTION  :U

Quote from: Drathorin on August 22, 2010, 11:53:53 AM
I love fantasy comics.

As it means the regular world's laws and physics don't have to work like we know they do.

Why?


It's FICTION  :U

sssshhh, don't tell them that, otherwise they'll spend all their money on therapy after having their world view shattered instead of Amber!  :U

(you know, like those folks who got sad because avatar wasn't real..)

I just figure that the insectis are either built differently than our insects, or they stay alive by virtue of magic.

Quote from: Drathorin on August 22, 2010, 11:53:53 AM
I love fantasy comics.

As it means the regular world's laws and physics don't have to work like we know they do.

Why?


It's FICTION  :U

But they might....
Objects still fall on floor, blades are effective at cutting materials due to high local pressure,  electricity seems to have similar effects....
n any case, a mark of any good fiction is to make stuff believable and consistent as opposed to arbitrary.... the easiest way is to use physics copied from our universe where you can

Magic is indeed a possibility as to why they get such big bugs in Furrae.
Just because we don't have any Magic here on earth, doesn't mean it doesn't exist in Furrae.
And while the laws of physics are not completely done away with they can probably be .. suspended a bit, here and there.

Also, she could be an Anthropod, which also have exoskeletons, but are different on the inside.
Like this one, the Coconut Crab :

(http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p-j7yHrLHLX_lgbmxz_gQeEtKCMZIbPx0wlVmBw8C6PAZJil_f4If6hKe3daWy3NvN9KkYmse7coaj_V7ffdvpA/coconut_crab.jpg?psid=1)

Pretty neat, innit ? :)

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
Like this one, the Coconut Crab :

(http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p-j7yHrLHLX_lgbmxz_gQeEtKCMZIbPx0wlVmBw8C6PAZJil_f4If6hKe3daWy3NvN9KkYmse7coaj_V7ffdvpA/coconut_crab.jpg?psid=1)

Pretty neat, innit ? :)

And on today's episode of "How to be a Real Macho Man" we talk about STD's.

Anyways, it's really an Arthropod.

Quote from: Bjalf on August 22, 2010, 12:37:57 PM

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
Like this one, the Coconut Crab :

Pretty neat, innit ? :)

And on today's episode of "How to be a Real Macho Man" we talk about STD's.

Anyways, it's really an Arthropod.

Dang, you are right, it's an arthropod, not an anthropod.
Arthropod = exoskeleton animal
Anthropod = greek word for human foot.

My bad, I mispelled it.
Sorry. 

:U

Where did you get the STD bit from though ? I'm confused!

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:48:35 PM
Where did you get the STD bit from though ? I'm confused!

Ordinary men get crabs. Real Men get Coconut Crabs!

Quote from: Bjalf on August 22, 2010, 12:53:25 PM

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:48:35 PMWhere did you get the STD bit from though ? I'm confused!

Ordinary men get crabs. Real Men get Coconut Crabs!

Ahhhh .... now I get it.
Being non-english I didn't think of that to begin with.
It also brings a whole new level to the "Honey, could you take out the garbage ?"

"Aaah, ahh ... it fights back!"

:D

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
Magic is indeed a possibility as to why they get such big bugs in Furrae.
Just because we don't have any Magic here on earth, doesn't mean it doesn't exist in Furrae.
And while the laws of physics are not completely done away with they can probably be .. suspended a bit, here and there.

Also, she could be an Anthropod, which also have exoskeletons, but are different on the inside.
Like this one, the Coconut Crab :

(http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p-j7yHrLHLX_lgbmxz_gQeEtKCMZIbPx0wlVmBw8C6PAZJil_f4If6hKe3daWy3NvN9KkYmse7coaj_V7ffdvpA/coconut_crab.jpg?psid=1)

Pretty neat, innit ? :)

Insects = arthropods.


Arthropoda divides into...
--Arachnids
--Chiopoda
--Crustacea
--Diplopoda
--Insecta
And a bunch of obscure ones I can't even remember

Crabs are crustacea.


PS. Don't even bother correcting my spelling, I know I did it wrong.


PSS. Regarding realism: Yeah, I'm one of those annoying people. "But physics don't *WORK* that way!"

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:58:35 PM

Quote from: Bjalf on August 22, 2010, 12:53:25 PM

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 12:48:35 PMWhere did you get the STD bit from though ? I'm confused!

Ordinary men get crabs. Real Men get Coconut Crabs!

Ahhhh .... now I get it.
Being non-english I didn't think of that to begin with.
It also brings a whole new level to the "Honey, could you take out the garbage ?"

"Aaah, ahh ... it fights back!"

:D

Just train the crab to take it out for you.

Problem solved.  :P

Quote from: Unsilenced on August 22, 2010, 03:37:26 PMInsects = arthropods.

Insects are indeed Arthropods, but Arthropods aren't all insects.
Just like a garden tractor is a tractor, it's tractors aren't all garden tractors.
Insects is a subspecies, and they do have some serious scaling issues in the real world.

That was sorta what I was aiming for.
That she could be bigger than normal insects because technically arthropods can vary a lot more then just the insect species.
Hence why I showed the image of a big Coconut Crab scavenging somebody's garbage can.

In other words, Chicki isn't a garden tractor.
That totally makes sense, right ?  :)

Quote from: Unsilenced on August 22, 2010, 03:37:26 PMPSS. Regarding realism: Yeah, I'm one of those annoying people. "But physics don't *WORK* that way!" 

Fantasy physics does.

Also, physics of today works a whole lot differently than physics did in the 1700's.
I remember reading an old medieval article regarding how large machinery could get, and they set some rather strict limits on it with the argument that any bigger and the rivets would break or fall out of the metal. I believe they considered about 30 meter tall as the limit.

Then someone invented welding, and now we have cranes that are a LOT bigger then puny 30 meters.

So .. back then, they'd say "physics don't work that way", yet sure enough, we already crossed those limits.
So, today we say "but physics don't work that way" ... and sometime, in a few years, we'll break those limits too.

It's fun. :D

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 04:12:41 PM

Quote from: Unsilenced on August 22, 2010, 03:37:26 PMInsects = arthropods.

Insects are indeed Arthropods, but Arthropods aren't all insects.
Just like a garden tractor is a tractor, it's tractors aren't all garden tractors.
Insects is a subspecies, and they do have some serious scaling issues in the real world.

That was sorta what I was aiming for.
That she could be bigger than normal insects because technically arthropods can vary a lot more then just the insect species.
Hence why I showed the image of a big Coconut Crab scavenging somebody's garbage can.

In other words, Chicki isn't a garden tractor.
That totally makes sense, right ?  :)

Quote from: Unsilenced on August 22, 2010, 03:37:26 PMPSS. Regarding realism: Yeah, I'm one of those annoying people. "But physics don't *WORK* that way!"  

Fantasy physics does.

Also, physics of today works a whole lot differently than physics did in the 1700's.
I remember reading an old medieval article regarding how large machinery could get, and they set some rather strict limits on it with the argument that any bigger and the rivets would break or fall out of the metal. I believe they considered about 30 meter tall as the limit.

Then someone invented welding, and now we have cranes that are a LOT bigger then puny 30 meters.

So .. back then, they'd say "physics don't work that way", yet sure enough, we already crossed those limits.
So, today we say "but physics don't work that way" ... and sometime, in a few years, we'll break those limits too.

It's fun. :D

I know that insect is a subdivision of arthropoda, hence my post. It just sounded from your post like you were saying that insects weren't arthropods, when if fact insects make up a great deal of arthropods (I *think* they might be the biggest portion of arthropods, but don't quote me on it)

As for adapting physics: eh. I don't think there'll ever be a way that an open circulatory system works on something human sized. Nor will there be, for that matter, a way in which a chitin and calcium exoskeleton will work at that size under normal earth gravity. Perhaps some future high-tech material will work, but then it wouldn't be organic, and so the whole thing is moot.

EDIT: Guess we're waiting on evolution to produce carbon fiber. Then we can start having some crazy-*** bugs.

what about reduced gravity enviroments?
i mean, maximum size insects can grow to is within the same order of magnitude as the size of people, so on somethign with less g's they could be person sized.

i mean, furrae isn't that populated - it might be smaller a sphere

Quote from: danman on August 22, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
what about reduced gravity enviroments?
i mean, maximum size insects can grow to is within the same order of magnitude as the size of people, so on somethign with less g's they could be person sized.

i mean, furrae isn't that populated - it might be smaller a sphere

In reduced gravity the rules change. I mean, just take a look at some of the monstrosities that form in the depths of the ocean.

However, I doubt that furrae has that much of a gravity difference, as we haven't seen any indication of one at all.

Quote from: Unsilenced on August 22, 2010, 06:44:05 PM

Quote from: danman on August 22, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
what about reduced gravity enviroments?
i mean, maximum size insects can grow to is within the same order of magnitude as the size of people, so on somethign with less g's they could be person sized.

i mean, furrae isn't that populated - it might be smaller a sphere

In reduced gravity the rules change. I mean, just take a look at some of the monstrosities that form in the depths of the ocean.

However, I doubt that furrae has that much of a gravity difference, as we haven't seen any indication of one at all.

The huge gryphons?
the robots?
the amazing jumps and athletics some can do?

Also, some arthropods have closed circulatory systems.
So then the exoskeleton seems to be the main inhibitor.

And, well ... there's snails with metal feet (http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?s=culture&c=news&l=on&pic=snail-foot-100310-02.jpg), so why not metal shells too ?
With that they could grow much larger than they have so far.

I say they survive through the power of Pencil Genetics: What you see presented is what's possible.

The core of science is the observed world. Physics function as observed in Furrae.

Fae and Dragons seem to mess with physics at-will anyway, so please stop killing catgirls.

Why can't people just accept the "Laws of Cartoon Physics"  and let it go at that??  This is the Amberverse and we should just accept her dominion here.

Umm, folks?

Chicki is not an insect, she's an insectis. There's a difference.

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
I remember reading an old medieval article regarding how large machinery could get, and they set some rather strict limits on it with the argument that any bigger and the rivets would break or fall out of the metal. I believe they considered about 30 meter tall as the limit.

Then someone invented welding, and now we have cranes that are a LOT bigger then puny 30 meters.

Meh, what did they know? The Eiffel Tower is riveted together. They could be frighteningly clueless in the old days.

When trains were invented, they thought that humans would die (explode, lungs collapse, or whatever) if they travelled faster than 100km/h or thereabouts. They had to keep upping the limit for some strange reason. And don't get me started on the brilliant idea of bloodletting.

Quote from: Scow2 on August 22, 2010, 10:26:04 PMI say they survive through the power of Pencil Genetics: What you see presented is what's possible.

The core of science is the observed world. Physics function as observed in Furrae.

Fae and Dragons seem to mess with physics at-will anyway, so please stop killing catgirls.

I gotta agree, pencil-genetics is powerful stuff.
And it's a good point about physics using observation.

Offcourse, the sun in Mabs fairy glen was making faces at people - So by that observation, the sun is alive!!

am i doin it rite ?

:D

Quote from: Bjalf on August 23, 2010, 02:57:13 AM

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 22, 2010, 04:12:41 PMI remember reading an old medieval article regarding how large machinery could get, and they set some rather strict limits on it with the argument that any bigger and the rivets would break or fall out of the metal. I believe they considered about 30 meter tall as the limit.

Then someone invented welding, and now we have cranes that are a LOT bigger then puny 30 meters.

Meh, what did they know? The Eiffel Tower is riveted together. They could be frighteningly clueless in the old days.

When trains were invented, they thought that humans would die (explode, lungs collapse, or whatever) if they travelled faster than 100km/h or thereabouts. They had to keep upping the limit for some strange reason. And don't get me started on the brilliant idea of bloodletting.

Ah yes, the eifel tower does put things in perspective.
Though one could be pessimistic and say it's not a machine.

I must admit, I had not heard about the 100km myth, though it seems awfully much like the "faster than light" myth going about nowadays.

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on August 23, 2010, 09:38:23 AM

Quote from: Bjalf on August 23, 2010, 02:57:13 AMWhen trains were invented, they thought that humans would die (explode, lungs collapse, or whatever) if they travelled faster than 100km/h or thereabouts. They had to keep upping the limit for some strange reason.

I must admit, I had not heard about the 100km myth, though it seems awfully much like the "faster than light" myth going about nowadays.

It was difficult to find any references, but I found one:

QuoteIt was feared that speeding trains would make cows go off their food; horses would become extinct. Human lungs would collapse at the unnatural speed of 30mph.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-last-journey-of-william-huskisson-by-simon-garfield-615341.html

Quote from: Maark30 on August 23, 2010, 01:36:21 AM
Why can't people just accept the "Laws of Cartoon Physics"  and let it go at that??  This is the Amberverse and we should just accept her dominion here.

In other words, it's Amber's world, and she twist if she wants to. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_296.php)

And sometimes science is a bad meanie that interferes with the plot. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_799.php)