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The calculus would be an interesting study.
Edit: We know where the image is. There's no need to link it in here, and force everyone to download it again, and provide Amber's hosting with yet more bandwidth usage, now, is there?
-- llearch
And now Phoenix Oracles seem like the most horrible creatures ever. I bet there are many beings and creatures what would choose death over doing a math test that was written by one of them.
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
So wait, does three plus three equal hammerhead shark?
So why was Dimanika delighted that Fa'Lina decided not to kill Pyroduck?
Theories?
Mine is that Dimanika thought Pyro would go completely bonkers growing up with Phoenix Oracles.
"Da'! Are we there yet!?!?!?"
"In the fullness of the gibbous moon, fourteen shakes before the cattails blossom, there will be a sign. . .or not."
"Gaaaaahhhh!!!!!!"
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 27, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
He might have had help. There's no assurance he acted alone.
"It was to Dimanika's delight that Fa'lina chose not to kill one of his children in return."
Wait, what? Did I miss something or read it wrong? I thought the Dimanika clan gave the children away so the children could be killed for revenge / abused / used as slaves...? Although.. I guess the other option would be for said children to be raised up to kill their father someday in the future... and maybe that's what the Dimanika clan was hoping for.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 27, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
Always thought that Aniz's Clan had something to do with it. What he said to Fa'Lina about being sorry his Clan took Fa'Lina's trying to help/save others as a sign of weakness.
Also, that shadowed Cubi seems to be too smiley. I shall call it Smiley McShadow... or how about Shadow McSmiley
Quote from: jeffh4 on December 27, 2009, 12:24:45 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 27, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
He might have had help. There's no assurance he acted alone.
Of course that's a possiblilty, I didn't exclude it (in fact, it crossed my mind). It's just that... uh... "Pyrodaddy"?... was the one directly responsible.
Since it's still in the backstory for "Abel's Story," I suppose it's no good anticipating mention of this in that comic, although it is good to know.
I did wonder where "Pyroduck" came from.... :P
So, how long do you think he was raised by a Phoenix oracle?
Quote from: Techcubi on December 27, 2009, 12:29:05 AM
So, how long do you think he was raised by a Phoenix oracle?
I'd say at least 8-10 years. At least long enough to learn some of their math.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on December 27, 2009, 12:28:48 AM
Since it's still in the backstory for "Abel's Story," I suppose it's no good anticipating mention of this in that comic, although it is good to know.
I did wonder where "Pyroduck" came from.... :P
I had always wondered about his name. It didn't seem dragony nor cubi. Phoenix oracles make perfect sense.
Also, about the Dimanika being happy that she chose to raise P-Ducky, I imagine if we knew what emotion the Dimanika fed off of we would have the answer for their delight. Irony perhaps?
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on December 27, 2009, 12:28:48 AM
Since it's still in the backstory for "Abel's Story," I suppose it's no good anticipating mention of this in that comic, although it is good to know.
I did wonder where "Pyroduck" came from.... :P
I had always wondered about his name. It didn't seem dragony nor cubi. Phoenix oracles make perfect sense.
Also, about the Dimanika being happy that she chose to raise P-Ducky, I imagine if we knew what emotion the Dimanika fed off of we would have the answer for their delight. Irony perhaps?
The satisfaction of a job well done, perhaps? Baby is delivered, its fate decided, and thus the task is complete, regardless of what happens next?
Just a thought...
Quote from: ibneko on December 27, 2009, 12:25:22 AM
"It was to Dimanika's delight that Fa'lina chose not to kill one of his children in return."
Wait, what? Did I miss something or read it wrong? I thought the Dimanika clan gave the children away so the children could be killed for revenge / abused / used as slaves...? Although.. I guess the other option would be for said children to be raised up to kill their father someday in the future... and maybe that's what the Dimanika clan was hoping for.
Well, that hasn't happened yet. Pyroduck used the word "is" to describe his father.
at least not that Pryo knows of. still you have to worry about what happened to any stragglers in Fa'lina's clan and was pryo's father pressured into betrayal?
Id like to take a look at their math. It might be easier than the calc im forced to learn now :P. Also what better way to hurt someone than to raise their children away from their influence of control.
A question about Pyroduck that I've had reguarding his name, ever since he first enerted the comic has finally been answered after all this time.
It's a christmas miracle. Or maybe the day after christmas.Whatever.
I think I am starting to understand how P-Ducky's brain works.
Simple analogy P-Ducky is using a bit processing upgraded to a qubit processing system while most everyone else is still using a bit processing system. If you can get that then more power to you.
What I am saying is that P-Ducky doesn't see things in just black and white, he sees things in black, white and grays.
Still interesting family tree P-Ducky has. Biological parents, dragons. Adopted mother Fi'Lana a succubus, raised by a Phoenix oracle. Imagine That on your Resume?
I want Da''s flaming hair on my head (and the ability to properly live with it). It looks so beautiful.
"It was to Dimanika's delight that Fa'lina chose not to kill one of his children in return."
Theories:
Fa'Lina wishes to have a family even if her cubi clan is dead and she is infertile. This is shown through her channeling her energy into SAIA to create a faux clan.
Fa'Lina has not developed enough of a grudge against PyroDaddy to kill a baby. Due to Fa'Lina having a near insane love for children and infants. (Stated in cast Page)
Fa'Lina understands if PyroDaddy hadn't killed her clan another dragon would have and is happy it was him not another.
Fa'Lina after being sad after losing her clan and at the thought of having a child of her own (Adopted or Not) may have caused her to accidentally Emotion Jam Dimanika.
Quote from: The_one_who_is_odd on December 27, 2009, 03:15:14 AM
"It was to Dimanika's delight that Fa'lina chose not to kill one of his children in return."
My new theory: Dimanika will be met later on in the comic and her cunning plan will be revealed then.
And no, I don't mean "cunning" as in Baldrick's cunning plans (from Blackadder)
Or simply the best revenge is proving to your adversery that you are better than them. Like not having to resort to genocide to prove your point.
Alternatively, Dimanika might not even be an evil clan, and the whole "serve on a platter" ploy is a test of character.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 27, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
Hmmm, 'took' not 'killed' - most likely as hostages. (Not that something could not have gone horribly wrong - hostages are prey to fortune and chance - even their own side may decide to 'simplify' the problem, usually by subtraction.)
The Auld Grump
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on December 27, 2009, 12:28:48 AM
Since it's still in the backstory for "Abel's Story," I suppose it's no good anticipating mention of this in that comic, although it is good to know.
I did wonder where "Pyroduck" came from.... :P
I had always wondered about his name. It didn't seem dragony nor cubi. Phoenix oracles make perfect sense.
Also, about the Dimanika being happy that she chose to raise P-Ducky, I imagine if we knew what emotion the Dimanika fed off of we would have the answer for their delight. Irony perhaps?
Irony isn't an emotion.
Quote from: TheAuldGrump on December 27, 2009, 04:01:44 AM
Hmmm, 'took' not 'killed' - most likely as hostages.
Or 'took down'. Or 'took their souls'.
My take is that Dimanika is/was big on justice. Letting the victims' survivors decide the fate of his children would kind of make sense in an eye-for-an-eye sense, and they don't necessarily have to agree with the decision. Providing the means would be simply be considered the proper/honourable thing to do.
EDIT:
Also note how Fa'Lina hasn't bent the rules of SAIA for herself, by having others raise the child. My guess is that he's given a SAIA education when he reaches his 20s. So chances are he's younger than Dee.
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on December 27, 2009, 12:22:18 AM
So wait, does three plus three equal hammerhead shark?
Possibly.
Sorry for the link image.
Quote from: OminousShadow on December 27, 2009, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 27, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
Okay, so that confrims it--Pyroduck's father was responsible for the death of Clan Fa'Lina.
Always thought that Aniz's Clan had something to do with it.
Horrible plot twist: Aniz
is Pyroduck's father.
Aw heck no.
...
Please?
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 12:35:24 AM
Phoenix oracles make perfect sense.
No they don't. It's in the job requirements.
Anyway, the salad seems to be here.
Quote from: Bjalf on December 27, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
Horrible plot twist: Aniz is Pyroduck's father.
That would make such a twisted plot, that if half of what Amber has put in the comic (and half of what's been speculated in the forums) is true, Pyro-daddy/Aniz/Edward would be the father of Dan, Abel, Pyroduck, and Alexsi. Which would mean Pyro's been going out with his half sister this whole time! :U
And as for the name Pyroduck, it always made sense to me.
He is a dragon. Dragons breathe fire.
He has green hair. Mallards have green head feathers.
Aw, baby Pyroduck wants to hug the big glowy Phoenix oracle. That's
adorable. :)
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on December 27, 2009, 12:22:18 AM
So wait, does three plus three equal hammerhead shark?
If it did, I would've enjoyed calculus a lot more. :P
Good god. Can you imagine what algebra would be like? D: In 2x + 5 = 25, X would
literally mean xylophone.
This post would've been more meaningful but my head is kind of achy.
Quote from: Scrap Fish on December 27, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
Anyway, the salad seems to be here.
So? Did you miss that panel? Alexsi said "when the salad arrives" and the salad arrived. Which is why she amended that to "main course".
Sheesh. I begin to wonder about the people who post here. Myself included...
Quote from: Goatmon on December 27, 2009, 04:13:28 AM
Irony isn't an emotion.
True, but I think there is some emotion or emotions experienced when the irony of something strikes someone. I don't know how to describe it. In a way, kind of like how poetic justice feels, though much less easily described.
My comment was a stab in the dark anyway.
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Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 27, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
Aw, baby Pyroduck wants to hug the big glowy Phoenix oracle. That's adorable. :)
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on December 27, 2009, 12:22:18 AM
So wait, does three plus three equal hammerhead shark?
If it did, I would've enjoyed calculus a lot more. :P
Good god. Can you imagine what algebra would be like? D: In 2x + 5 = 25, X would literally mean xylophone.
This post would've been more meaningful but my head is kind of achy.
My multi-variable calculus professor once did a problem demonstration with :) :< :/ in place of x, y, and z to prove a point about any variable being valid. Everybody was, including my professor, thoroughly confused and we ended up changing back to x, y, and z so we could finish the problem.
So, if we want to calculate the tangent; Y=m(X-X1)+Y1. Using proper math we get Y=Amber([Feather/Green]-[Sleep-(Sandwich*Omnom)])+PS3. 1+1=Swordfish is a given, so when we solve we get Y=3+/-Jello
So Amber's next tangent should be in 3 updates, with a margin for error of Jello.
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
My multi-variable calculus professor once did a problem demonstration with :) :< :/ in place of x, y, and z to prove a point about any variable being valid. Everybody was, including my professor, thoroughly confused and we ended up changing back to x, y, and z so we could finish the problem.
That's an easy one: :mowcookie
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
My multi-variable calculus professor once did a problem demonstration with :) :< :/ in place of x, y, and z to prove a point about any variable being valid. Everybody was, including my professor, thoroughly confused and we ended up changing back to x, y, and z so we could finish the problem.
Heh. That might have been more useful if you'd enabled the "no smileys" option...
Quote from: Shachza on December 27, 2009, 01:19:35 PM
So, if we want to calculate the tangent; Y=m(X-X1)+Y1. Using proper math we get Y=Amber([Feather/Green]-[Sleep-(Sandwich*Omnom)])+PS3. 1+1=Swordfish is a given, so when we solve we get Y=3+/-Jello
So Amber's next tangent should be in 3 updates, with a margin for error of Jello.
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
My multi-variable calculus professor once did a problem demonstration with :) :< :/ in place of x, y, and z to prove a point about any variable being valid. Everybody was, including my professor, thoroughly confused and we ended up changing back to x, y, and z so we could finish the problem.
That's an easy one: :mowcookie
One finds that you can use anything as a variable, in math or computer programming... But it helps to use something that makes sense to you or to what the variable is for.
OK, I am surprised how sane Pyroduck is after being raised by a phoenix?
PBH
If Pyroduck was raised by the Phoenix Oracles, then statements such as this one "stating that he was from the future" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_113.php) may have to be interpreted in terms of this fact. Perhaps Pyroduck does not come from the future, but instead represents the future, a future where cubi and dragons and beings can live in peace with one another. Perhaps the great grandchildren that Pyroduck referred do not represent his physical children but instead represent the descendants of his actions. Perhaps reading this strip will reveal the sound of one hand clapping.
The statements by Mab in this strip would make more sense if Mab knew that Pyroduck was a dragon. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_695.php)
The logical candidate for Biggs' agent in this case would be Pyroduck. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php)
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Edit:
Regarding the possibility of Pyroduck being Biggs' agent.
Pyroduck has visited the Twinks territory often. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_680.php)
In the two episodes where Destania's children visited the Twinks territory (Dan's visit was voluntary (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_078.php), but Alexsi's was not (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_703.php).) and were seen by Destania, Pyroduck was involved.
The information provided to Biggs was about Edward and not directly related to genocide against the dragons. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php)
Biggs has multiple plans going.
If Destania and Biggs are considering total genocide, that would mean the death of infants, a very sore point with Fa'Lina. Fa'Lina and Pyroduck could be trying to introduce a less genocidal alternative.
Really? I'm not so convinced that Pyroduck would be working for Biggs. But then again, this is founded on two assumptions, that
A. Destania's plan, that Biggs is helping with, involves draconic genocide.
B. Pyroduck is cagey enough to know what they'd be up to.
Given those two, neither one of which seem all that much of a stretch, would indicate to me that he's not one of Biggs's agents, and that his comment about it being an interesting meeting refers that he knows Alexsi's "mother" is a 'Cubi, of whom dragons do *not* get along. (And possibly thinking of his own raising.)
Hopefully Alexsi will warm up to Pyroduck and actually begin to like him better.
Bwarg. Okay, so Pyroduck's dad was Fa'Lina's clan's slayer. I wonder how Aniz' clan was involved, then...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2009, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Scrap Fish on December 27, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
Anyway, the salad seems to be here.
So? Did you miss that panel? Alexsi said "when the salad arrives" and the salad arrived. Which is why she amended that to "main course".
Sheesh. I begin to wonder about the people who post here. Myself included...
Oh? That was the salad? Guess I missed the whole thing.
...
It does make more sense now.
Er, my bad. I found the last three all at the same time and didn't absorb them properly before posting.
Quote from: Arcblade on December 27, 2009, 08:34:39 PM
Bwarg. Okay, so Pyroduck's dad was Fa'Lina's clan's slayer. I wonder how Aniz' clan was involved, then...
Aniz said that his clan took Falina's clan's desire to save/help people as a sign of weakness.
While it would appear that something was implied, it doesn't necessarily mean they were involved in Fa'lina's clan being wiped out. It may have resulted in a skirmish prior to that incident. Or, if Clan Siar were involved, then perhaps they made a deal with Pyroduck's father and helped in some way.
...I swear I don't understand what I just said. My fingers just seem to be vomiting my random thoughts all over my keyboard.
Quote from: Naldru on December 27, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
If Pyroduck was raised by the Phoenix Oracles, then statements such as this one "stating that he was from the future" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_113.php) may have to be interpreted in terms of this fact. Perhaps Pyroduck does not come from the future, but instead represents the future, a future where cubi and dragons and beings can live in peace with one another. Perhaps the great grandchildren that Pyroduck referred do not represent his physical children but instead represent the descendants of his actions. Perhaps reading this strip will reveal the sound of one hand clapping.
The statements by Mab in this strip would make more sense if Mab knew that Pyroduck was a dragon. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_695.php)
The logical candidate for Biggs' agent in this case would be Pyroduck. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php)
Considering Fa'Lina and Mab are old/new friends (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php) and what else we know about Mab it isn't unlikely that she knew Pyroduck was a dragon.
Also, I doubt P-Ducky would be an active or willing participant in Biggs plans. P-Ducky's character seems to me tobe above something like what I imagine Biggs would do. At the very least he would have intentionally been misleading to Alexsi back in #726 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php) as he would almost certainly had to have worked with Destania and would have seen through her disguise. Along with Destania likely recognizing P-Ducky as a dragon, though that could be mitigated by her knowing his affiliation with Fa'Lina.
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 28, 2009, 12:39:02 AM
P-Ducky's character seems to me tobe above something like what I imagine Biggs would do.
And thus, he would have the perfect cover! Janus Bond would be proud to face a villan of the caliber Pduck would be if he turns out to be one.
And now my head hurts. What just happened?
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on December 27, 2009, 11:38:53 PM
...I swear I don't understand what I just said. My fingers just seem to be vomiting my random thoughts all over my keyboard.
So... why did you hit post?
Quote from: Naldru on December 27, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
Pyroduck has visited the Twinks territory often. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_680.php)
That's a referance to the first arc he appeared in back when the comic was in black and white.
In fact, secret government documents that vanished just after I saw them and can never be found again indicated that Pyroduck's father was not responsible at all!
It was the unknown dragons hiding in the grassy knoll... :shifty
Well giving family To a Tri wing that lost their intire clan might have been a have been a greater gift than what she first thought would be the babes last breath.
After all a gift, doesn't have to be viewed the same way by the receiver as it is by the giver.
If a positive emotion is the Dimanika clan's preferred emotion they might have wanted to get Fa'lina out of her funk of losing her clan by giving her a snack but would be even more enjoyed that they would give her something she could never have on her own and quite obviously want.
This one thing would be family. :hug
If y'all think that Oracle Math is complicated, you should see their physics lessons!!
At least their Psychology classes are fairly straight forward, though the examn is kinda hard.
You are given a cookies, which you are
not allowed to eat for a whole hour, and if you manage to convince it to become
two cookies, you get extra good grades, plus another cookie to eat at the end of the examn. :)
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
My comment was a stab in the dark anyway.
Stop stabbing the dark, dammit !!! :rant
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on December 28, 2009, 03:39:28 PM
If y'all think that Oracle Math is complicated, you should see their physics lessons!!
At least their Psychology classes are fairly straight forward, though the examn is kinda hard.
You are given a cookies, which you are not allowed to eat for a whole hour, and if you manage to convince it to become two cookies, you get extra good grades, plus another cookie to eat at the end of the examn. :)
Just break it in half.... Speaking of I think I shall get some xmas cookies <.<
Quote from: PencilinHand on December 27, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
My comment was a stab in the dark anyway.
Stop stabbing thew dark, dammit !!! :rant
lol ... just noticed I spelled "the" with a "w" .... hos emberassing !!
So I have corrected myself. :)
Hmm. Maybe being raised by creatures that have the ability to see the future has something to do with his so called "time-traveling" and why you shouldn't make bets with him.
And my guess is that the Daminka like babies.
Quote from: Lucheek on December 28, 2009, 08:48:01 PM
And my guess is that the Daminka like babies.
Well DUH ... they're tasty. :D
Hmmm...rereading the Demo101 page, it stresses how intelligent the Pheonix Oracles are. If they are so amazingly smart, what does 1+1= Swordfish have to do? Or maybe Pyro is just making a silly little example to explain their normal train of thought that might be on some kind of higher level or something.
I believe it has more to do with Union Rules forbidding clear, easily understood answers.
Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on December 30, 2009, 11:17:16 AM
I believe it has more to do with Union Rules forbidding clear, easily understood answers.
Ahh, yes, union rules.
#301 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_301.php)