Stop sitting around and get some sunshine!
Vitamin D-ficiency (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090803/sc_livescience/lackofvitamindinchildrenshocking)
Just stand outside for 15 minutes and then everyone can crawl back into the basement for another D&D session or 12-hour Wii marathon. :3
It's either the indoors, or overbearing mothers drenching their children in sun-proof armor.
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on August 03, 2009, 02:58:36 PM
It's either the indoors, or overbearing mothers drenching their children in sun-proof armor.
QFT. There is no reason to put on SPF 5000000000 sunblock when it's overcast.
Or if you are not the outdoors person, you can cheat with a UV-B light.
Quote from: Dekari on August 03, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on August 03, 2009, 02:58:36 PM
It's either the indoors, or overbearing mothers drenching their children in sun-proof armor.
Or if you are not the outdoors person, you can cheat with a UV-B light.
Might try that. Either that, or just sit in a sunbed for hours.
I bike to and from work every day (so that's about 4.5 miles every day)... that's about as much sun as I want *here*... I like the sun *there*... I just don't like it *here*
*shrugs* I have to go outside to get to the internet.. so that's how I get sun ^_^
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on August 03, 2009, 03:14:29 PM
Might try that. Either that, or just sit in a sunbed for hours.
Well, before you do that you may want to do some research and, like just about anyone would say, talk to your Dr. Don't rely on the internet for medical advice when you have paid medical professionals who know what they are talking about.
The UV-B you get from a UV light may actually be much, much more than you would get from the sun considering that about 98.7% of the UV radiation is blocked by the atmosphere. You don't want to get too much UV-B and cause even worse problems for yourself.
Psh, sunlight is overrated. 15 minutes in a UV Tanning bed is all I need.
eh, I spend about an hour and 15 minutes total driving to and from work every day, I think that(plus 5 minutes between car and buildings) is enough indirect sunlight to qualify. Also, milk.
Quote from: Reese Tora on August 03, 2009, 10:22:37 PM
Also, milk.
Milk is good... See? (http://www.strimoo.com/video/11741946/Got-Milk-Law-Of-Gravity-MySpaceVideos.html)
There is life outside your apartment... :ipod
I'm not getting that song out of my head for days now, dangnabit.
Quote from: Dekari on August 03, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on August 03, 2009, 02:58:36 PM
It's either the indoors, or overbearing mothers drenching their children in sun-proof armor.
QFT. There is no reason to put on SPF 5000000000 sunblock when it's overcast.
You haven't seen my son. Slug-like about sums it up.
Having said that, a few minutes isn't going to hurt him... but no way does he go out in the bright sunlight without some sunscreen. 30+, 40+, or 50+, depending on what's to hand.
So essentially he can go out all year round except that rare week or so of summer?
Quote from: Valynth on August 04, 2009, 04:27:42 AM
So essentially he can go out all year round except that rare week or so of summer?
You would be surprised at how badly one can burn in the winter.... <~~~ ish victim..
Quote from: wuffnpuff on August 04, 2009, 05:09:30 AM
Quote from: Valynth on August 04, 2009, 04:27:42 AM
So essentially he can go out all year round except that rare week or so of summer?
You would be surprised at how badly one can burn in the winter.... <~~~ ish victim..
And you would be surprised at how little the sun has to do with British weather.
Anyway, yes you CAN burn while there's snow on the ground 'cause that snow reflects light and radiation back at you causing a double dose.
Not that I have to worry about it here. Our temperature rarely reaches below what you northern folk consider "summer" during our "winter."
Frankly, I think alot of people burn badly simply because their skin is so little-used to getting sunlight.
When I used to work in grounds at Six Flags great Adventure, I was exposed to full-blast summer sun nearly 8 hours a day. But because from early childhood, I used to be outside all the time, I never got more than a mild burn on the first few days of the season, then no more sunburn afterward.
Now, however, since I'm in a lab and get little sunlight most of the time, if I'm going to be out more than an hour in direct sunlight, I must have sunscreen or my face starts to melt off.
Course, that could be due to horrible mutations from the lab chemicals and not the sun exposure itself. :<
Quote from: Reese Tora on August 03, 2009, 10:22:37 PM
eh, I spend about an hour and 15 minutes total driving to and from work every day, I think that(plus 5 minutes between car and buildings) is enough indirect sunlight to qualify.
Doctors and other professionals say it needs to be direct sunlight. I believe this is because many types of glass, including auto glass, diminish what little UV is left in the suns rays. But I'm going to have to do some looking around to make sure what I'm saying is correct or not.
Quote from: Reese Tora on August 03, 2009, 10:22:37 PM
Also, milk.
To paraphrase medical research...
"The Vitamin D received from food, fortified or not, is minuscule when compared to how much the body makes when exposed to the sun for just 10 minutes."
Actually, I have a vitamin D deficiency and need to take vitamins on occasion. Part of it is because I don't tan - my complexion is so light that there is no transition. If I spend too much time in the sun, I burn. :<
However, I truly need to spend more time out in the sun.
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
If I were to take my pasty white body outside I'd burst into flames faster than a gasoline-soaked moth in hell.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 04, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
If I were to take my pasty white body outside I'd burst into flames faster than a gasoline-soaked moth in hell.
... Are you asking us to avoid it, or to go ahead with it? Because if you're trying to avoid it, just a wee hint of advice - you're going at it entirely the wrong way...
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 04, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbgul1NpEA8
all i ever need to know is from TMBG :boogie
Quote from: Valynth on August 04, 2009, 08:04:34 AM
Quote from: wuffnpuff on August 04, 2009, 05:09:30 AM
Quote from: Valynth on August 04, 2009, 04:27:42 AM
So essentially he can go out all year round except that rare week or so of summer?
You would be surprised at how badly one can burn in the winter.... <~~~ ish victim..
And you would be surprised at how little the sun has to do with British weather.
And you would be surprised how easy it is to burn when you go around thinking that a little cloud cover will protect you from being outside all day.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 04, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
Worse. It's the largest beepin' nuclear reactor (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00169.htm) in the whole system! (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00170.htm)
//h - "Go OUTSIDE?! You're trying to make me BLIND?!"
HISSSSSSSSSSSSS! The sun is my mortal enemy.
What is this "sun" you people keep mentioning?
I personally have yet to experience what you would call a real nasty sunburn.
For example today was the first time this year I was outside for any real length of time (being over an hour in direct sunlight) So we spent around 5 hours walking around the haborfront.
The result is that I still have a pasty white farmers tan on my shoulders and upper arms.
I really don't burn often, then again, using stuff like aloe vera gel from the plant itself and just rubbing it gently over the arms really does soothe whatever sort of light redness I do get.
Also, I have never used sunblock, as I use this thing called common decency. Which is GTFO and into a house after an extended period of time.
Quote from: hapless on August 04, 2009, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 04, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
Worse. It's the largest beepin' nuclear reactor (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00169.htm) in the whole system! (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00170.htm)
*In other news, Greenpeace is now standing in protest of... the Sun*
*hippies protester* The Sun is bad, man, cuz it's nukular! :B
Quote from: Alondro on August 05, 2009, 08:13:09 AM
*hippies protester* The Sun is bad, man, cuz it's nukular! :B
Still, hippies are much less dangerous than a new government agency.
//h(ope you checked both of the links...)
Quote from: Alondro on August 05, 2009, 08:13:09 AM
Quote from: hapless on August 04, 2009, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 04, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
Don't you guys realize that the sun is a GIANT BALL OF FIRE?! D:
Worse. It's the largest beepin' nuclear reactor (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00169.htm) in the whole system! (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00170.htm)
*In other news, Greenpeace is now standing in protest of... the Sun*
*hippies protester* The Sun is bad, man, cuz it's nukular! :B
No, man. the sun is ok, man. The sun runs on nuclear fusion, man, not fission, man. Fusion is good, man, because it doesn't have the nuclear waste of fission-based reactors, man.
* tokes on his joint like a professional hippy stoner *
Would you be so KIND and STOP breaking my arguments with FACTS?
*snatches and destroys the joint in one swift move*
And don't you know that smoking is hazardous to you health? Ok, this stuff isn't nearly as bad as tobacco... but still, you'll be better without it.
//h(ave a nice polar night)
Quote from: hapless on August 05, 2009, 04:51:27 PM
Would you be so KIND and STOP breaking my arguments with FACTS?
*snatches and destroys the joint in one swift move*
And don't you know that smoking is hazardous to you health? Ok, this stuff isn't nearly as bad as tobacco... but still, you'll be better without it.
//h(ave a nice polar night)
* switches to a large water pipe with 2 hoses for toking on it *
Relax, man. There's plenty to go around, man. Have a little toke, man, it might mellow you out a bit man. don't you know that high blood pressure is bad for you, man? Be a little bit less high strung, man.
* put's on Pink Floyd's "Dark side of the Moon" and "Wizard of Oz" *
High pressure is the only thing that keeps me alive... but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy good music...
*takes a seat, pulls out a bottle of some clear liquid and ONE glass*
...What? You have your pipe, dontcha?
//h
Quote from: hapless on August 05, 2009, 05:49:19 PM
High pressure is the only thing that keeps me alive... but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy good music...
*takes a seat, pulls out a bottle of some clear liquid and ONE glass*
...What? You have your pipe, dontcha?
//h
Whatever, man. You are either boring enough to drink water, or are just drinking your liver into foie gras, and are too stingy to share, I don't care, man. I have my pipe, and a large variety of belgian microbrews in the basement.
* poors a bottle of kwak into it's distinctive glass *
Anyway, back on topic, man. the sun has set, man. There's nothing to see outside, man, ecept for darkness, man.
If I'd share, i'd feel responsible for damage to your liver too... wait, what? "Nothing except the darkness"? That's like "Nothing except everything"! Have you ever wandered in darkness? Saw what it has to show? Heard what it has to say?
//h
Quote from: hapless on August 05, 2009, 06:13:31 PM
Have you ever wandered in darkness?
Yes.
Quote from: hapless on August 05, 2009, 06:13:31 PM
Saw what it has to show?
Yes: I saw nothing, because IT WAS DARK! I also managed to ram my shin into something hard because I COULDN'T SEE WHERE I WAS GOING!
Quote from: hapless on August 05, 2009, 06:13:31 PM
Heard what it has to say?
Darkness makes no noise, and creepy owls, bats and bugs are not good company in dark and creepy places.
Duuuuude. You obviously weren't drunk enough.
//h
Quote from: Vidar on August 05, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
* put's on Pink Floyd's "Dark side of the Moon" and "Wizard of Oz" *
... at the same time? I mean, I've heard of psychedelic music, but...
Quote from: Vidar on August 05, 2009, 04:41:52 PM
No, man. the sun is ok, man. The sun runs on nuclear fusion, man, not fission, man. Fusion is good, man, because it doesn't have the nuclear waste of fission-based reactors, man.
* tokes on his joint like a professional hippy stoner *
And you sir, are in a heaping helping of wrongness, because the sun actually uses both processes and DOES produce waste in the form of iron that gathers at the center of the star eventually resulting in a massive gravitational effect that, when the sun runs out of fuel, either creates a super nova, or a black hole.
The forces inherent in a super nova in turn form the rest of the periodic table when humans aren't running around making abnormally large atoms for nanoseconds.
*puts on Ride of the Valkyries*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 05, 2009, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: Vidar on August 05, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
* put's on Pink Floyd's "Dark side of the Moon" and "Wizard of Oz" *
... at the same time? I mean, I've heard of psychedelic music, but...
and synced to the lion's roar, too, I'm sure... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow)
What are you all talking about, sunburns and timetables for sunlight exposure, just for everyday life?! In Bulgaria we have four distinct seasons, so we get extreme colds in winter and extreme sunlight at summer- if we were even half as much concerned with outside conditions as you are exhibiting here- the country would have to grind to a halt. There is nothing to think about when going outside, aside from the issue of whether to put on a sweater or a T-shirt. Stop treating nature as if it's a drug or a disease and dose it or cure it, just live with it! I know I sound selfrighteous, that was my intention!
Quote from: Valynth on August 05, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
And you sir, are in a heaping helping of wrongness, because the sun actually uses both processes and DOES produce waste in the form of iron that gathers at the center of the star eventually resulting in a massive gravitational effect that, when the sun runs out of fuel, either creates a super nova, or a black hole.
I see you're referring to the carbon-nitrogen-oxygen bi-cycle.
Our sun won't go supernova. It can't even get to the iron stage because it's too small. It'll run out of steam somewhere around carbon-oxygen and go poof in a regular nova, leaving a dense white dwarf to cool for several billion years. :3
I'm swarthy. People have commented. Someone also asked me what was on my T-shirt in an airport duty free shop whilst I was buying a very fine Merlot.
Sometimes I like to tell people how I got bruises and make them look at it.
I am a dull.
I think I'm Solarophobic xD either that or just incredibly record-breakingly lazy (Does anyone know if theres a World Record for Laziness?). I almost never leave the house and if I do its usually when its peeing down with rain and completely overcast. Basically if I can get away with not getting up from my pc chair without suffering any severe consequences (well what I concider severe) then I'm content to just vegetate here.... :sleep
Quote from: Kipiru on August 06, 2009, 01:50:00 AM
What are you all talking about, sunburns and timetables for sunlight exposure, just for everyday life?! In Bulgaria we have four distinct seasons, so we get extreme colds in winter and extreme sunlight at summer- if we were even half as much concerned with outside conditions as you are exhibiting here- the country would have to grind to a halt. There is nothing to think about when going outside, aside from the issue of whether to put on a sweater or a T-shirt. Stop treating nature as if it's a drug or a disease and dose it or cure it, just live with it! I know I sound selfrighteous, that was my intention!
QFT
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 12, 2009, 05:44:57 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on August 06, 2009, 01:50:00 AM
What are you all talking about, sunburns and timetables for sunlight exposure, just for everyday life?! In Bulgaria we have four distinct seasons, so we get extreme colds in winter and extreme sunlight at summer- if we were even half as much concerned with outside conditions as you are exhibiting here- the country would have to grind to a halt. There is nothing to think about when going outside, aside from the issue of whether to put on a sweater or a T-shirt. Stop treating nature as if it's a drug or a disease and dose it or cure it, just live with it! I know I sound selfrighteous, that was my intention!
QFT
Quiffed
(http://www.8notes.com/images/artists/elvis-presley.jpg)
Quote from: rabid_fox on August 12, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 12, 2009, 05:44:57 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on August 06, 2009, 01:50:00 AM
What are you all talking about, sunburns and timetables for sunlight exposure, just for everyday life?! In Bulgaria we have four distinct seasons, so we get extreme colds in winter and extreme sunlight at summer- if we were even half as much concerned with outside conditions as you are exhibiting here- the country would have to grind to a halt. There is nothing to think about when going outside, aside from the issue of whether to put on a sweater or a T-shirt. Stop treating nature as if it's a drug or a disease and dose it or cure it, just live with it! I know I sound selfrighteous, that was my intention!
QFT
Quiffed
(http://www.8notes.com/images/artists/elvis-presley.jpg)
xD I was wondering what that stood for too.
Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 12, 2009, 07:57:11 PM
xD I was wondering what that stood for too.
Quoted For Truth, although I liked the quiffed variant, too...
Ah I thought it was 'Quite ******* True', do excuse the alluded swear....
Bah, the bulgarians have it easy. Here in the south the temperature varies between mid 40'sF in winter to melting-your-face-off hot in summer (roughly arround 95-98F. With a heat index of about 115F when the damned humidity is through with it).
And I have to go out a work in that mowing lawns and installing storm windows....
Kill me now!
... 4 to 36C?
Hrm. Here it's just -4 to 40 or so...
Granted.. where I'm at the hottest it usually gets is in the 90's... but the winter is pure hell with a few days of -20F >_<
Quote from: Valynth on August 14, 2009, 06:50:23 PM
Bah, the bulgarians have it easy. Here in the south the temperature varies between mid 40'sF in winter to melting-your-face-off hot in summer (roughly arround 95-98F. With a heat index of about 115F when the damned humidity is through with it).
Feh... Try living in the North Finland. Being close to the Arctic circle, the summer's midnight sun will keep you awake if you don't cover your window with lead curtains. The temperature rises to 30 degrees of Celsius at best, which is considered to be quite hot, but during the nights it can drop close to zero, which means that you can get hypothermia.
"Well that doesn't sound so bad" you say? I agree, summer is nice, bright and warm. It's the winter that I want to tell you about. Only few moments of sunlight during the darkest months. Temperature dropping somewhere around -30degrees of Celsius, air so dry that you have to really have to gasp to get a lungefull. Being surrounded by icy tundra, the coldness and devouring darkness is enough to turn any man insane if exposed too long. The merciless wind blowing all the warmth from your flesh and reaping your very soul given the opportunity. Who knows what horrors lurk behind the curtain of northern woods, where no living person goes after sunlight stop breaking the dawn anymore.
Of course to balance the lack of warmth and light, we natives have sauna, beer and electric lghtbulb. I think there's some vitamin-D in beer.
Quote from: Omega on August 18, 2009, 05:24:02 AM
Quote from: Valynth on August 14, 2009, 06:50:23 PM
Bah, the bulgarians have it easy. Here in the south the temperature varies between mid 40'sF in winter to melting-your-face-off hot in summer (roughly arround 95-98F. With a heat index of about 115F when the damned humidity is through with it).
Feh... Try living in the North Finland. Being close to the Arctic circle, the summer's midnight sun will keep you awake if you don't cover your window with lead curtains. The temperature rises to 30 degrees of Celsius at best, which is considered to be quite hot, but during the nights it can drop close to zero, which means that you can get hypothermia.
"Well that doesn't sound so bad" you say? I agree, summer is nice, bright and warm. It's the winter that I want to tell you about. Only few moments of sunlight during the darkest months. Temperature dropping somewhere around -30degrees of Celsius, air so dry that you have to really have to gasp to get a lungefull. Being surrounded by icy tundra, the coldness and devouring darkness is enough to turn any man insane if exposed too long. The merciless wind blowing all the warmth from your flesh and reaping your very soul given the opportunity. Who knows what horrors lurk behind the curtain of northern woods, where no living person goes after sunlight stop breaking the dawn anymore.
Of course to balance the lack of warmth and light, we natives have sauna, beer and electric lghtbulb. I think there's some vitamin-D in beer.
*Alondro exports global warming to Finland during the winter and becomes a filthy-rich evil capitalist!* >:3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 15, 2009, 08:07:31 AM
... 4 to 36C?
Hrm. Here it's just -4 to 40 or so...
Try -30 to 33C.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnn
It's a balmy 70 degrees every day with a breeze from the ocean and no humidity. The sun is always out and mostly never any clouds....
.... I hate it here.
(I want my seasons and cloudy dismal snowy days back.)
Quote from: ooklah on August 19, 2009, 05:23:51 AM
It's a balmy 70 degrees every day with a breeze from the ocean and no humidity. The sun is always out and mostly never any clouds....
.... I hate it here.
(I want my seasons and cloudy dismal snowy days back.)
Temperature is nice. But what about rain? I expect gardening is difficult!
Quote from: Alondro on August 19, 2009, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: ooklah on August 19, 2009, 05:23:51 AM
It's a balmy 70 degrees every day with a breeze from the ocean and no humidity. The sun is always out and mostly never any clouds....
.... I hate it here.
(I want my seasons and cloudy dismal snowy days back.)
Temperature is nice. But what about rain? I expect gardening is difficult!
Bah! Gardeners have had enough time to muck about in the dirt. It's time for autumn, dammit!
We don't get rain here... I think it tried... twice ... so far this year... emphasis on tried... and we don't get seasons....
Quote from: Drathorin on August 19, 2009, 01:15:03 AM
Try -30 to 33C.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnn
Eh? I got very similar temperature in here, but do you also spend your days with 22hours in darkness or 22 in bright sunlight?
Quote from: ooklah on August 19, 2009, 03:50:51 PM
We don't get rain here... I think it tried... twice ... so far this year... emphasis on tried... and we don't get seasons....
So... you live in a temperate desert?
Hmm, where is this?
And where does your water supply come from?
San Diego, and our water is imported from Northern California, afaik.
Granted I've only lived here for 8 months so far. So maybe they get rain other years. I don't know.
Quote from: ooklah on August 20, 2009, 03:55:18 PM
San Diego, and our water is imported from Northern California, afaik.
Granted I've only lived here for 8 months so far. So maybe they get rain other years. I don't know.
I've lived in the LA area most of my life (everything outside of vacation trips during the summer...) adn I can say that it tends to not rain much at all except for a day or two here and there. occasionally we'll get a week long period of rain and overcast (oh, how I love those...)
Note, though, that this is NOT your mid west rains so hard you have to stop your car where it is and wait for it to let up rain, this is just enough rain to bring us up to two or three inches or so over the course of a week.
http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayNORMS.asp?AirportCode=KLGB&StateCode=CA&SafeCityName=Downey&Units=none&IATA=LAX&lastyear=on&normals=on&records=on
Notice that the average rain fall is that dark blue line that's almost entierly obscured by the bottom of the graph.
Most of the time, well, we are a desert, and we are in drought conditions, and we pipe most of our water in OVER the mountains (because it's too geologically unstable to tunnel through the mointains) or pump it up from the aquifer... the second of which can't be done too much because it too much is pumped out, the salt sea water will begin to infiltrate it and make the whole lot undrinkable (and what improperly disposed toxic chemicals can potentially do... whoo boy!) or the ground will start to subside (sink holes for everyone!)
remember everyone, let your lawn die, and stay indoors with the lights out, it's better for the environment!