The Clockwork Mansion

I was having a discussion on another forum where I use the same name I have here (changed back to Cubi) and I was telling them about the powers cubi have. They started to try and find ways to kill me as a cubi and this brought up an interesting idea. Who would win in a fight Freddie or a Cubi. And lets say the Cubi is the most powerful Cubi in Furrae. :kruger
:ddrabel (only cubi pic I could find)

 :<

We've never seen the most powerful cubi on Furae, that's most likely the Tri-wing who dates back to the first generation, about 100,000 years ago IIRC.

We've never seen  the full power of any tri-wing.  But imagine Freddie vs Cyra (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1000.php) in a Dreamscape.

GO TO BED.

All he needs to do is find what you're afraid of and he's unstoppable.

Freddie:  "Hmmm, CubiAlpha has a phobia of peas."
CubiAlpha:  "Zomg!  I'm being attacking by cubi-eating peas!  AAAAaaaaaaaahhhhhh.............  *  "
Freddie:  "Muwahahaha!  I win again!"

Against a tri-wing? He's toast.

Mind you, I do wonder what the relative strengths of a tri-wing and the eyeful thingy (http://missmab.com/Demo/Cubi04.php) in someone's dream.

Easy question. No offense to Cyra, but the scariest thing in feathers will always be Freddie Mercury.

Well, the Cubi mind-reading abilities segment did say that there were things other than cubi that could get into dreams and implied that they could be dangerous to cubi. (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Cubi04.php)  However, I would also imagine that the cubi have developed means to deal with such attacks, even if only to deal with other cubi.  Since all cubi seem to have powers similar to Freddie, I would imagine that the most powerful cubi could probably rend Freddie into tiny, submicroscopic pieces only capable of experiencing eternal torment.  Of course, Aaryanna might simply ask to show up as a guest lecturer.

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on May 30, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
*stuff*

Just you thinking of stuff like that is enough to keep me up at night.  :U

There are far worse things that wander dreamscapes than cubi do, don't forget.

Quote from: Turnsky on May 30, 2009, 01:38:44 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on May 30, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
*stuff*

Just you thinking of stuff like that is enough to keep me up at night.  :U

There are far worse things that wander dreamscapes than cubi do, don't forget.

Nemo, for example.

Quote from: Turnsky on May 30, 2009, 01:38:44 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on May 30, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
*stuff*

Just you thinking of stuff like that is enough to keep me up at night.  :U

There are far worse things that wander dreamscapes than cubi do, don't forget.

Re-Runs of Sinbad's TV shows  :U

Wait.

What? :O

Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 30, 2009, 08:37:00 PM
Wait.

What? :O

That's right. Flee! Flee while you still can!

Are you referring to Sinbad (comedian/actor) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005435/) or  the television series The Adventures of Sinbad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Sinbad).  There are differing degrees of barbarity when you force one to watch a show.  (I think I have the correct link to the Sinbad television series that you might be referring to.)  If it's the one that I'm thinking of, watching the episode with the giant ants that was done after the budget cuts would probably be the most painful.

I assume that the reference to Nemo was to Little Nemo in Slumberland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Nemo) and not to the Pixar film Finding Nemo.  Although the scenes in the dentist's office did get to my daughter a little.

Freddie Vs Fa'Lina

With how Fa'Lina has been every time we've seen her, and how Freddie is a sadistic douche' it would be a battle of epic, yet funny, proportions.

Freddy vs. Fae

The Fae won't be in trouble; he'll just play along.

Freddy: I got him now.
Freddy: Hey! What's happening?

Fae:  Sorry, I got to go.  But I know some others that would want to play with you.  :)


With regards,
Ted

I have no idea on who would win, but my guess is that the cubi would be victorious, since cubi can reed mind's any move or weakness that Freddy would think of would be all used against him.

They both lose.

The big eye monster shows up and eats them both~

Quote from: Drathorin on May 31, 2009, 06:05:27 PM
They both lose.

The big eye monster shows up and eats them both~

Yes.

Honestly, though, cubi tend to do poorly in fights because they keep tripping over their own hilariously oversized egos. Even with nifty things like regeneration and elemental resistance, most cubi can still be killed by, say, head shots. And fire. Fire kills everything.

i can tell you folks right now who'd win

(http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/Pics/ash-evil-dead.jpg)

you can now be silent.  :U

"Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon... " - Terry Pratchett

Chicago Ted would win.



Seriously in a battle between Freedy VS Cubi it all depends on the Cubi.  Inexperienced and ill trained cubi who do not know how to control their own fear and keep their will stronger than Freddy will loose.  But if a Cubi can keep his fears in check (and maybe even give Freddy false fears to play on), control the situation and  stay stronger than Freddy can win.

For instance Able & Dan VS Freddy.  In my opinion if those two work together and work together using each others strengths they have an ~65% chance to beat Freddy.

If Cubi, as the top predator in Furrae when it comes to preying on souls and emotions, are powerful and magical enough to have completely wiped out the entire competing Vampire Race (#510 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_510.php)), I would be willing to bet that Freddie would quickly meet his demise. As would Jason, or Michael, or that little leprechaun guy, or...

Quote from: Shachza on May 30, 2009, 11:53:32 AM
All he needs to do is find what you're afraid of and he's unstoppable.

Freddie:  "Hmmm, CubiAlpha has a phobia of peas."
CubiAlpha:  "Zomg!  I'm being attacking by cubi-eating peas!  AAAAaaaaaaaahhhhhh.............  *  "
Freddie:  "Muwahahaha!  I win again!"

Knowing fears doesn't mean anything if you're too insane to be stopped by mere fears anyway.

E.g. a person who fears death can't be stopped by threats of death if he sincerely believes he's immortal.

Quote from: !KCA on June 01, 2009, 05:17:12 AM

Quote from: Drathorin on May 31, 2009, 06:05:27 PM
They both lose.

The big eye monster shows up and eats them both~

Yes.

Honestly, though, cubi tend to do poorly in fights because they keep tripping over their own hilariously oversized egos. Even with nifty things like regeneration and elemental resistance, most cubi can still be killed by, say, head shots. And fire. Fire kills everything.

Well, Abel is element resistant (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_667.php). (though it could also be used to mean that there simply wasn't enough fire back then..)

Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on June 01, 2009, 05:18:25 PM
If Cubi, as the top predator in Furrae when it comes to preying on souls and emotions, are powerful and magical enough to have completely wiped out the entire competing Vampire Race (#510 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_510.php)), I would be willing to bet that Freddie would quickly meet his demise. As would Jason, or Michael, or that little leprechaun guy, or…

Say Chucky! Say Chucky!
I really hate that stupid doll!

Cubi have a sliding scale of formability, ranging from, um Abel when his head wings popped to the 100,000 year old tri-wing.

And remember they eventually lose the ability to dream, so all of the older Cubi would be confronting Freddy in someone else's dream.

Dan is apt to be on the tough side for a young Cubi, because of his Adventurer background.

Abel now has nearly 400 years under his belt, so he shouldn't be any pushover either.

Destania?  Cyra?   Freddy's toast, with jam.

i feel really, really sorry for amber right now.  :<

This is almost as terrible as alien vs predator  :B

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 01, 2009, 06:06:49 PM

Quote from: Shachza on May 30, 2009, 11:53:32 AM
All he needs to do is find what you're afraid of and he's unstoppable.

Freddie:  "Hmmm, CubiAlpha has a phobia of peas."
CubiAlpha:  "Zomg!  I'm being attacking by cubi-eating peas!  AAAAaaaaaaaahhhhhh.............  *  "
Freddie:  "Muwahahaha!  I win again!"

Knowing fears doesn't mean anything if you're too insane to be stopped by mere fears anyway.

E.g. a person who fears death can't be stopped by threats of death if he sincerely believes he's immortal.

You're trivializing crippling phobias now.  I hate to use Freddie vs. Jason, but the end battle is a perfect example of using overwhelming fear of anything against someone who believes themselves immortal.  Jason was unbeatable up until Freddie found out he has a phobia of water, then all Freddie had to do was use water and Jason was helpless.

I see a cubi fight the same way, and I guess I agree with madmann135 in this; if the cubi can keep his/her fears a secret, Freddie isn't nearly as bad.  However, if Freddie finds something that the cubi is truly afraid of, I think his ability to warp dreams will crush said cubi.

P.S.  I appologize to everyone for using that movie.  /sepukku

2 things.

1. If you have seen any other movie with Jason in it, you know they were completely wrong about a fear of water. Jason basicly fears nothing.

2. Can't Cubi also find out someone's fear in dreams?

http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Cubi04.php


be silent, would you kindly.

Quote from: Shachza on June 02, 2009, 12:33:09 PM

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 01, 2009, 06:06:49 PM

Quote from: Shachza on May 30, 2009, 11:53:32 AM
All he needs to do is find what you're afraid of and he's unstoppable.

Freddie:  "Hmmm, CubiAlpha has a phobia of peas."
CubiAlpha:  "Zomg!  I'm being attacking by cubi-eating peas!  AAAAaaaaaaaahhhhhh.............  *  "
Freddie:  "Muwahahaha!  I win again!"

Knowing fears doesn't mean anything if you're too insane to be stopped by mere fears anyway.

E.g. a person who fears death can't be stopped by threats of death if he sincerely believes he's immortal.

You're trivializing crippling phobias now.  I hate to use Freddie vs. Jason, but the end battle is a perfect example of using overwhelming fear of anything against someone who believes themselves immortal.  Jason was unbeatable up until Freddie found out he has a phobia of water, then all Freddie had to do was use water and Jason was helpless.

I see a cubi fight the same way, and I guess I agree with madmann135 in this; if the cubi can keep his/her fears a secret, Freddie isn't nearly as bad.  However, if Freddie finds something that the cubi is truly afraid of, I think his ability to warp dreams will crush said cubi.

P.S.  I appologize to everyone for using that movie.  /sepukku

Inversely, you're making too large a deal over fears.

a) There's this thing called overcoming fears.
b) Fear does not necessarily mean it'll cause incompetence. There's also a possibility that in the fight or flight scenario, it may cause the victim to choose the fight option (aka they'll be more compelled to smack you to bits) (Hey example! Not exactly fear, but close enough to backfire (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_694.php))
c) In my example, it's of a delusion created to overcome the fear. Until the delusion is proven wrong (which is kinda tricky in terms of death, since you'll have to kill them to prove them wrong), the fear inherently has no effect.

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 03, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
Inversely, you're making too large a deal over fears.

a) There's this thing called overcoming fears.
b) Fear does not necessarily mean it'll cause incompetence. There's also a possibility that in the fight or flight scenario, it may cause the victim to choose the fight option (aka they'll be more compelled to smack you to bits)
c) In my example, it's of a delusion created to overcome the fear. Until the delusion is proven wrong (which is kinda tricky in terms of death, since you'll have to kill them to prove them wrong), the fear inherently has no effect.

and again, there's scarier things that lurk on the dreamscapes than Freddy Freaking Krueger.

that said, Older cubi do not sleep, may have an out when exploring the dreams of others, and thus have nothing to fear from Robert Englund with a stripy shirt and knived hand.

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 03, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
b) Fear does not necessarily mean it'll cause incompetence. There's also a possibility that in the fight or flight scenario, it may cause the victim to choose the fight option (aka they'll be more compelled to smack you to bits)

Or in the case of early encounters in Man-Kzin Wars, the flight response just happened to result in an accidental counter-attack (the ships' reaction-drive systems were quite effective as weapons).

Lets get a definitive result. I'm adding a poll to see who you all think would win.

Edit: Poll added and I've cast my vote.

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 04, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
Lets get a definitive result. I'm adding a poll to see who you all think would win.

Edit: Poll added and I've cast my vote.

Ash from Army of Darkness would win :<

Well..you'd need to be able to dream, first. I don't know much about this..but I think a 'cubi skilled enough to defeat Freddy, probably wouldn't be able to dream, in the first place.

Also..I'm not a fan of the Nightmare series, so correct me, if I'm wrong...but..isn't Freddy, I dunno..kind of...not alive? Last I checked..you can't kill something, that's already dead. >.> (yes, yes..."decapitation"..I know..but we all know that doesn't work, with freddy. :) )

I vote Freddy.  :3

"Welcome to this week's episode of 'Will It Blend?'..."

"How can you kill...that which has no life?"


I ask questions like this all the time...

Quote from: Mao Laoren on June 04, 2009, 03:16:06 PM
"How can you kill...that which has no life?"

So, basically, you are insinuating that everyone in the Clockwork Mansion forums are immortal?

If we had a life, would we be here

Actually, our statements on the internet will probably long outlast us.  Whether that's good or bad is debatable.

Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on June 04, 2009, 03:19:57 PM

Quote from: Mao Laoren on June 04, 2009, 03:16:06 PM
"How can you kill...that which has no life?"

So, basically, you are insinuating that everyone in the Clockwork Mansion forums are immortal?

No, that's a different thread.

You would destroy both in a match up.

Quote from: Fox on June 04, 2009, 02:58:12 PM
Well..you'd need to be able to dream, first. I don't know much about this..but I think a 'cubi skilled enough to defeat Freddy, probably wouldn't be able to dream, in the first place.

Also..I'm not a fan of the Nightmare series, so correct me, if I'm wrong...but..isn't Freddy, I dunno..kind of...not alive? Last I checked..you can't kill something, that's already dead. >.> (yes, yes..."decapitation"..I know..but we all know that doesn't work, with freddy. :) )

I vote Freddy.  :3

That has been proven by Freddy vs. Jason (which I thought was pretty good)

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 04, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
"Welcome to this week's episode of 'Will It Blend?'..."

meat for the meat tree in any case.  >:3

My vote is on, wait for it, Judge Mills Lane...If there was anyone who can sort anything out..It would been him!  :3

he misspelt it anyway, it's Freddy Krueger  note the "e"

I say T-800 wins  :U

Quote from: Drathorin on June 05, 2009, 07:54:57 AM
I say T-800 wins  :U

Someone here has to say it: Chuck Norris wins.

You know what, I'm going to add Chuck Norris. And thanks Turnsky for pointing out my mistake, I'll fix it right away. I also reset the votes for anyone who wants to change theirs.

Chuck Norris? Bah

What about Bruce Schneier (http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/)?  :mowninja

I vote for Norris cause he's the only real person

This is heading into very confusing and silly waters. So who else are we going to add? Lara Croft? Buck the invincible undead chicken? or James Bond? (just to clarify, I'm joking here I'm not mocking anyone)

My vote goes to the cubi once again. Chuck Norris doesn't have any cool tendrils or spells so he losses whit one well aimed fire ball.

Quote from: Garsemor on June 05, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
My vote goes to the cubi once again. Chuck Norris doesn't have any cool tendrils or spells so he losses whit one well aimed fire ball.

Maybe he is a 'Cubi.

Quote from: Tapewolf on June 05, 2009, 02:40:11 PM

Quote from: Garsemor on June 05, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
My vote goes to the cubi once again. Chuck Norris doesn't have any cool tendrils or spells so he losses whit one well aimed fire ball.

Maybe he is a 'Cubi.

No, fireballs don't hit chuck norris.

Chuck Norris reflects fireballs with his roundhouse kick.

And his stern eyes shoot lasers.

And nothing can penetrate the armor that is his beard.

So you teleport him into an infinite abyss, problem solved. And everyone knows Chuck is a dragon.

Poll update. Chuck is in first with Cubi in a close 2nd. And poor Freddy is trailing with only one vote. Personally, being the big Jason fan I am, I think he would kick all their butts, but that's just my opinion.

 :necro

Quote from: Turnsky on June 06, 2009, 12:05:39 AM
:necro

unfortunately... brains are a rare commodity on the internet.  Infinitely rarer than the fabled woman in the chat-room.

Back to seriousness.

In all reality, even a normal human who has a strong will and control over said emotions has a good chance of beating Freddy. 
Think about it, lets say you play that you have a fear of man eating doughnuts, Freddy makes man eating doughnuts, then you eat the doughnuts because you actually love them (only said that because I have some next to me).  Freddy is a creature that feeds off of fear, similar to a cubi [which a trained cubi might be able to handle].  Cubi from what I understand generally have impressive wills and mental abilities (including Dan).

In a match between Freddy, Chuck Norris and a skilled Cubi, ...Freddy is the underdog.  Chuck Norris is real which makes him the most powerful.  Freddy is just a cubi with no body and more limitations.

Quote from: Madmann135 on June 06, 2009, 04:48:44 AM

Quote from: Turnsky on June 06, 2009, 12:05:39 AM
:necro

unfortunately... brains are a rare commodity on the internet.  Infinitely rarer than the fabled woman in the chat-room.

Back to seriousness.

In all reality, even a normal human who has a strong will and control over said emotions has a good chance of beating Freddy. 
Think about it, lets say you play that you have a fear of man eating doughnuts, Freddy makes man eating doughnuts, then you eat the doughnuts because you actually love them (only said that because I have some next to me).  Freddy is a creature that feeds off of fear, similar to a cubi [which a trained cubi might be able to handle].  Cubi from what I understand generally have impressive wills and mental abilities (including Dan).

In a match between Freddy, Chuck Norris and a skilled Cubi, ...Freddy is the underdog.  Chuck Norris is real which makes him the most powerful.  Freddy is just a cubi with no body and more limitations.

Actually, a few misconceptions.
a) It is nearly/practically impossible to simply create a false fear, since unlike cubi, Freddy doesn't seem to use the traditional thought-reading method. (which would incidently be his main advantage over cubi) Though disguising or altering the fear to something more harmless is likely easier.
b) Cubi do not exactly feed on fear. Maybe a few specific clans, but the specific emotional affinity is based on specific clans.. though those which feed extensively on fear would probably be more capable in a dream-environment.
c) I'm not really sure where you get the "impressive mental abilities" about Dan. Part of the reason he's survived thus far is due to his clan affinity for pain, which incidently is plenty available when he's dying.
d) Alternatively though, it is a battle of minds mostly, if you only cosider the dreamscape. A person who's able to will him/herself into lucid dreams would likely be practically undefeatable in his own dream environment regardless of cubi or freddy influence, though you'd need a lot of mental practice to achieve that. (and the fabled Norris would likely be able to will himself such anyhow)

Quote from: Michael Chandra on June 05, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
So you teleport him into an infinite abyss, problem solved. And everyone knows Chuck is a dragon.

Chuck Norris can climb out of an infinite abyss in an hour or less - with one hand tied to his back - without breaking a sweat. :giggle :P
He also could have a pet dragon if he wanted.



...sometimes I suspect he might be fae. :mwaha

I'm siding with Garsemor, here. It's just getting silly. (well..more so than it already was)

Still, my vote remains with Freddy. I'm not voting 'Cubi, just because I like them, better. It's all about odds, and the odds are with Freddy. (unless, as stated, the clan has an affinity for fear)

Michael Bay appears, everything EXPLODES. Problem solved.

Bruce Lee.

What?  He apparently killed Chuck Norris.

Where did Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato come from? And how did Bacon get a vote?  :blink

Quote from: Garsemor on June 07, 2009, 01:36:05 PM
Where did Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato come from? And how did Bacon get a vote?

It looks like something llearch might do.

I didn't add that.

Freddy is losing to Bacon and Chuck Norris lost a vote. How is this possible? :boggle
If Bacon gets any stronger it will soon start to eat US.
*screams in fear*

Quote from: Garsemor on June 07, 2009, 02:47:14 PM
Freddy is losing to Bacon and Chuck Norris lost a vote. How is this possible? :boggle

All things are possible if you can directly edit the backend database...

Quote from: Tapewolf on June 07, 2009, 02:48:57 PM

Quote from: Garsemor on June 07, 2009, 02:47:14 PM
Freddy is losing to Bacon and Chuck Norris lost a vote. How is this possible? :boggle

All things are possible if you can directly edit the backend database...

So who are the possible culprits. My guess is, Gremlins.

FWIW, all I did was add the options. Oh, and set it so people could edit their votes.

I didn't change my own vote at all...

You evil genius! You added the options I didn't even think of. Bacon wins every battle.

I say that a bear comes into play and kills them both...unless one of them has a shot gun, bear wins  >:3

Man Ilearch, you made me hungry for a BLT.

I'll take Manhattan, made with rye whiskey.

with regards,
Ted

Chuck Norris and Bacon are tied with 6 each.

What I meant by Dan's impressive mental abilities is that in order for him to have made it so far as an adventurer with out actively using magic he has to have impressive calculating skills, the ability to instinctively anticipate his opponents strategy and think a few steps ahead of them all the while using the best tools at his disposal to come out alive. 
Not many can do that in the heat of battle but he did which shows that he has impressive mental skills and focus when he needs it.

Quote from: Madmann135 on June 08, 2009, 02:32:03 AM
Chuck Norris and Bacon are tied with 6 each.

What I meant by Dan's impressive mental abilities is that in order for him to have made it so far as an adventurer with out actively using magic he has to have impressive calculating skills, the ability to instinctively anticipate his opponents strategy and think a few steps ahead of them all the while using the best tools at his disposal to come out alive. 
Not many can do that in the heat of battle but he did which shows that he has impressive mental skills and focus when he needs it.

Or as a bit of a bumbling idiot he has terrific luck  ;)

Would this be one of the killer tomatoes from the film Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?

FOR BACON!

Bacon is in the lead with 12. Cubi is in a close second with 11. In third is Chuck with 6 votes.

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 08, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Bacon is in the lead with 12. Cubi is in a close second with 11. In third is Chuck with 6 votes.

Bacon beats all.

frkkin lettuce

I WANT A BLT! CURSE YOU LLEARCH!

Edit: Is that better?

... who's this ilearch person?

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 08, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
... who's this ilearch person?

something steve jobs made.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 08, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
... who's this ilearch person?

I think he's not Mac Compatible suprisingly enough

I am disturbed by the fact Chuck Norris has less votes then a Cubi. I'm pretty sure they could not win as he would roundhouse kick them mentally.

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 08, 2009, 12:06:30 PM
I WANT A BLT!

This problem can be solved by shapeshifting. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ITasteDelicious)

If it were Freddie vs. Cyra, I'd take Giant Cat Lady Matriarch for $500, Alex.

Bacons in first with 16 votes. Cubi a close second with 15 votes. A in third is Chuck Norris with 7 votes.

You know what, I change my vote to this thread because it just won't die  :U

llearch, what did you do! Stop messing with my poll. I was ok with the bacon, lettuce, and tomato, but this is pushing it. I don't care if your a mod, no more messing with the poll or I will talk to the admins. Unless some other mod did this.

Wasn't me. Messing with it more than once is not nearly as funny as just the once.

I'll admit to the BLT, but Batman? Not me. That would be changing people's votes for them, which is wrong and bad (tm).

Frankly, I think the only way to counteract is for all of us to change our votes to Chuck Norris, hence showing that the Batman thing is NOT FUNNY.

I'm a little surprised somebody hasn't added Mr. T.  Have you seen the new book in the store containing Mr. T versus Chuck Norris jokes?

Quote from: Naldru on June 16, 2009, 07:27:36 AM
I'm a little surprised somebody hasn't added Mr. T.  Have you seen the new book in the store containing Mr. T versus Chuck Norris jokes?

OFFTOPIC. Though everything is offtopic since we can't compare anything vs cubi now anyway.

Also...

Quote from: Amber WilliamsWelcome to the DMFA Discussion Forum.  This section is dedicated primarily to the goings on in the webcomic Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures.   As such, most topics should contain some relation to the comic or the characters...or at least something DMFA related. If not, the general forum is now available to discuss.

With the removal of Cubi from the poll, the thread is essentially offtopic for this forum as well. 

Mmm. Bacon.

Silly poll is silly.

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 16, 2009, 08:06:04 AM
With the removal of Cubi from the poll, the thread is essentially offtopic for this forum as well. 

Looks like it's still there to me.

Of course, it's down the list a way, and doesn't have many votes yet, but that's because someone (else) edited it. It's definitely still there (at this time, anyway)...

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 16, 2009, 11:01:28 AM

Quote from: Psaakyrn on June 16, 2009, 08:06:04 AM
With the removal of Cubi from the poll, the thread is essentially offtopic for this forum as well. 

Looks like it's still there to me.

Of course, it's down the list a way, and doesn't have many votes yet, but that's because someone (else) edited it. It's definitely still there (at this time, anyway)...

Either my memory is failing me, or I'm delusional, but I was quite sure that wasn't there previously. Half suspecting mysterious poll-editor simply put it there after my post. Irregardless, have we managed to determine who is messing with us?

No, it was there or else I would have said something about it. And llearch, I'm glad it wasn't you. I also think we should put our votes back to where they were before Batman was added. One more thing slightly off topic, has anyone ever read the comic Better Days.

I don't honestly know who it was either.

My bets are on a being made of pure awesome

My guess is that Pygmy-Shrew-Gremlins did it.

it was the one armed man!

How come batman is second? No way could he beat a cubi or Chuck Norris, I can understand him beating Freddy (because Batman has no fears for Freddy to use) but A cubi can break Diamond hard skin whit his tendrils so armor is mostly useless and Chuck Norris is a way better hand to hand fighter than Batman so I don't get it why he has so many votes.

On a side note I still don't get it why bacon is in the lead.

Quote from: Garsemor on June 17, 2009, 03:06:45 PM
How come batman is second. No way could he beat a cubi or Chuck Norris, I can understand him beating Freddy (because Batman has no fears for Freddy to use) but A cubi can break Diamond hard skin whit his tendrils so armor is mostly useless and Chuck Norris is a way better hand to hand fighter than Batman so I don't get it why he has so many votes.

On a side note I still don't get it why bacon is in the lead.

Batman is second only because he stole the cubi's spot thanks to whoever keeps editing the polls.

And whoever keeps messing with the poll apparently hates cubi, since said person knocked the cubi back to bottom yet again.

And bacon leads because it is MEAT. Much more fearsome than waffles (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_660.php) IMO.
Hmm... bacon-ferret...

Psh, It's simple.

It's because white cubi can't jump  :U

Quote from: Garsemor on June 17, 2009, 03:06:45 PM
On a side note I still don't get it why bacon is in the lead.

Bacon > All. enough said.

bacon uber alles. ;-]

I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

No, I won't stop because you didn't say Please.

Quote from: Turnsky on June 17, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

Ooooh! Is it David Hasselhof?

Quote from: Turnsky on June 17, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

(http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/316/1/d/swurtbip_hupfluff_by_spengbob.jpg) You rang?

Quote from: Drathorin on June 17, 2009, 10:54:23 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

No, I won't stop because you didn't say Please.

Quote from: Turnsky on June 17, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

Ooooh! Is it David Hasselhof?

If it truly was you, please stop.

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 11:21:23 PM

Quote from: Drathorin on June 17, 2009, 10:54:23 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

No, I won't stop because you didn't say Please.

Quote from: Turnsky on June 17, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

Ooooh! Is it David Hasselhof?

If it truly was you, please stop.

If there was one thing I learned in all my years kid. . . . . It's been these next 4 words I'm going to tell you.

Internet is Serious Business.

Quote from: Drathorin on June 17, 2009, 11:47:59 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 11:21:23 PM

Quote from: Drathorin on June 17, 2009, 10:54:23 PM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

No, I won't stop because you didn't say Please.

Quote from: Turnsky on June 17, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
o/` "who lives in a pineapple under the sea?~" o/`

Ooooh! Is it David Hasselhof?

If it truly was you, please stop.

If there was one thing I learned in all my years kid. . . . . It's been these next 4 words I'm going to tell you.

Internet is Serious Business.

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7655/seriousbusiness.jpg) (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/seriousbusiness.jpg/)

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

Sure thing. Let me just reset all the votes to zero, and we can start again.

Hahaha, this is a train wreck of hilarity!


Edit:  Because this thread deserves it

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 18, 2009, 07:19:49 AM

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
I'VE HAD ENOUGH!! WHO EVER KEEPS MESSING WITH POLL BETTER STOP! THIS IS MY FIRST EVER POLL AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU MESSING WITH IT! Sorry to those who voted for them but I'm deleting Batman and Spongebob. And llearch, could you add the change you vote option again?

Sure thing. Let me just reset all the votes to zero, and we can start again.

Awesome, so it's a repeatable quest!

Spongebob I CHOOSE YOU!

o/` "absorbent and yellow and porous is he.." o/`

Maybe we should just put this out of its misery...?

Are you miserable, Tapewolf? I don't think I am...

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 18, 2009, 08:02:33 AM
Are you miserable, Tapewolf? I don't think I am...

No, but I doubt the thread owner will be too happy about it.

If you put it out of it's misery, what will I have to laugh at in the morning before I get settled into work?  No, I'd like to see this one live a while longer now so I can get my chuckles at it's expense.  Also:  To whomever is editing it, assuming more than one person, good on ya'.  I haven't laughed so hard in a while.

The only clear winner in this fight is the tomato, there can be and never will be any other victor.

Lets look at the facts for a moment, tomatoes are red. Red is the colour of blood. The tomato is obviously a vicious and brutal killer that coats its self in the blood of its fallen enemies, while you may think "Sure, a cubi could do this" the fact remains that the tomato has no arms, no legs and certainly no tentacles. Leaving this brutal violent mass murdering plant a mystery for even the most cold and hard detectives who have read sin city during their lunch break.

Due to the lack of sightings of tomato attacks, since no one ever survives. Not even the witness. We have been left tome come up with a variety of theories on how the tomato can preform such horrific acts. The most common of these theories being that the tomato is really one cell in a massive plant like hive mind, when a tomato is in danger of being eaten it sends out a shrill message of help through the ground that is picked up by its various breatheren in the surrounding area, by the roots of course. Tomato roots are really underground antenna. The hive of tomatoes then focuses its psy power into a manifestation of pure evil and sin to extract vengeance and hopefully save the lone, poor tomato about to be eaten.

This theory is the most scientifically accurate one many scientists in the European union have been able to devise so far, in an effort to stop the rampart attacks of the tomato. But how does this apply to a cubi fight? Surely a cubi could out smart the simple minded tomato hive mind, they are used to dealing with such strange things every day!

But no, the cubi is at a distinct weakness, the cubi can not sense or feed off the thoughts or emotions of a plant hive mind. The two minds are simply too different to be compatable and can not understand each other. This means that the cubi can not sense the tomatoes, can not feel the tomatoes, can not even read the tomatoes mind. It is in the dark being only able to use its more mortal senses to help it win the fight. But that is not to say the tomato hasn't evolved a defense against such attacks, the tomato on the other hand can project fake emotional wave lengths with its special hive mind powers, these are used blasted out at random intervals and projected strengths to find the cubis emotional weak spot and hit it for massive damage. And when the cubi is weakend like this, the tomatos will once more summon up their monster like astral projections and send them forth into the world of the mortals, to rip appart the stunned cubi like a butter through a warm peanut butter sandwich.

But the cubi powers, what about them? You cry. Useless, they are all useless, no acts of violence can stop the tomato hive mind, you crush one tomato, and vine will rise in its place, sprouting hundreds more than ever before. Each single tomato adding power to the hive, so it grows, and grows. Each day becomming more powerful, growing more confident, absorbing more knowledge through the radio waves and tv signals. You can not stop the tomato, for every one you kill only releases more seeds, you can only slow the tomato. Nothing you can do can save you. Mr Cubi, for you would need to salt the entire earth, and genocide the tomato, and hunt down every little seed, and crush every root, and every stem untill your dying breath.. And then they will grow on your coprse.

And when the cubi has been ripped apart by the ghosts of its past, the tomatoes will roll in its blood, vibrating their happy little plant thoughts as they claim yet another victory for their race.. And once more, set on there path to world domination.. It's comming, you should know it. The tomatos are absorbing grapes into their hive mind, and with the combined forces of the grape hive mind and the tomato, no one will be safe!

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5685/28709920.jpg)

AND IT WILL ROAR IN VICTORY LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

You sir, are made of pure awesome and win.  My hat is off to you.

I voted for Spongebob just to piss Jack off.

...mind you, I'm referring to classic Spongebob. The recent episodes suck.

I can only hope the readers of this letter are as outraged as I am at Tomatoes. In the text that follows, I don't intend to recount all of the damage caused by Tomatoes wayward publications but I do want to point out that on several occasions I have heard Tomatoes state that 75 million years ago, a galactic tyrant named Xenu solved the overpopulation problem of his 76-planet federation by transporting the excess people to Earth, chaining them to volcanoes, and dropping H-bombs on them. I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a comment. What I consider far more important though is that Tomatoes hate you—yes, you, because you, like me, want to carry out this matter to the full extent of the law. I don't want to build castles in the air. I don't want to plan things that I can't yet implement. But I do want to take a proactive, rather than a reactive, stance because doing so clearly demonstrates how if it wants to complain, it should have an argument. It shouldn't just throw out the word "counterrevolutionist", for example, and expect us to be scared.

This moral issue will eventually be rendered academic by the fact that I, for one, am not up on the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that I wonder what would happen if Tomatoes really did lower this country's moral tone and depreciate its commercial integrity. There's a spooky thought. Accordingly, Tomatoes want nothing less than to produce a new generation of unreasonable four-flushers whose opinions and prejudices, far from being enlightened and challenged, are simply legitimized, hence its repeated, almost hypnotic, insistence on the importance of its possession-obsessed smears. When people say that bigotry and hate are alive and well, they're right. And Tomatoes are to blame.

If Tomatoes get their way, we will soon be engulfed in a Dark Age of wowserism and indescribable horror. That's why I'm telling you that one can consecrate one's life to the service of a noble idea or a glorious ideology. Tomatoes, however, are more likely to marginalize me based on my gender, race, or religion. Let me offer some free advice to Tomatoes subalterns: Stop giving rise to what I call pertinacious, petulant nebbishes! It is grossly misleading merely to claim that Tomatoes use deception to trick people into voting against things that they in fact support. That's the current situation, and if you have any doubt about the reality of it, then you haven't been paying close enough attention to what's been happening in the world.

In a similar vein, Tomatoes think it would be a great idea to sacrifice children on the twin altars of anarchism and greed. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed. If you're still reading this letter, I wish to compliment you for being sufficiently open-minded to understand that we should not concern ourselves with Tomatoes's putative virtue or vice. Rather, we should concern ourselves with our own welfare and with the fact that most people don't realize that Tomatoes have already revealed its plans to galvanize a corrupt hysteria, a large-scale version of the inarticulate mentality that can hamstring our efforts to prevent its warped opinions from spreading like a malignant tumor. It revealed these plans in a manifesto bearing all of the hallmarks of having been written by a bloodthirsty gauleiter. Not only is its manifesto entirely lacking in logic, relentlessly subjective, and totally anecdotal, but Tomatoes never tire of trying to extinguish fires with gasoline. It presumably hopes that the magic formula will work some day. In the meantime, it seems to have resolved to learn nothing from experience, which tells us that it's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. Pull back the curtain of sesquipedalianism and you'll see a mischievous joker hiding behind it, furiously pulling the levers of nativism in a jejune attempt to insult my intelligence. That sort of discovery should make any sane person realize that the actions, beliefs, and utterances that Tomatoes are trying to tattoo on our minds are not educational, but contumacious. That much is crystal clear. But did you know that it is my job—and your job, too—to bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate? That's why I'm telling you that Tomatoes wants to clear forests, strip the topsoil, and turn a natural paradise into a dust bowl through a self-induced drought. Personally, I don't want that. Personally, I prefer freedom. If you also prefer freedom then you should be working with me to feed the starving, house the homeless, cure the sick, and still find wonder and awe in the sunrise and the moonlight.

Difficult times lie ahead. Fortunately, we have the capacity to circumvent much of the impending misery by working together to help people break free of Tomatoes cycle of oppression. As far back as I can remember, Tomatoes has pitted suborners of perjury against big-labor bosses and blockheads against savages. And that's it. Tomatoes vicegerents have coordinated their propaganda efforts into a superbly-wrought symphony of hatred and destruction.

Oh hay look!  It's ur thread.

I now phear the tomato and all of its prowess....  :paranoid

. o O ( I think my burger needs more ketchup. )

There is but one solution to the coming dark ages, one last hope for humanity to break the cycle of death an decay these red monsterus plant growths have caused us over out galactic life span, and this is to become breathareans. But ridding out selves of our need to consume mass quanities of food we can remove the taint in our genes that is slowly converting us to a subservient race of tomato worshiping drones. A fate I do not at all wish to become a part of, and nor do you. Or so I should hope. After all these years of fighting for our freedom from the terrorist threat of the Al-fruitqueida, the people who have given their lives to the great orchid in the sky and the women and children doomed to acquire green thumbs, we can but hope and try this one last solution.

As we all know it was the development of GM foods that have allowed the tomatoes to reach their full and dangerous potential, a million billion years ago when the great lord Xenu chained our for fathers to volcanoes their race was in a struggle to ban Government Mutated foods, their oppressive neo-capatelist socitiy having forced the market to be flooded with these new and unique 'extra healthy' products. The Xenulings forced to eat these, but sadly on their mission they left behind the seeds of destruction, in the form of these GM tomatoes. Sadly for us these tomatoes have taken root over our world through the years, and now we too are developing GM foods, and what has our test subject been? Of course. The tomatoes. If we had been smart and taken heed of the warnings of how these foods could have affected us maybe we could have solved this situation, but now we have fallen to the folly of the old galactic races.

Having unlocked the tomatoes true potential we are now certainly doomed to become a servant. The already mutated tomato genes have gained even more power, and as we consume these tomatoes (Which the tomato hive only lets us do for experimentation on our own genes) we slowly absorb the mutated tomato genes into our bodys through the digestive track. These mutant genes are able to withstand the acids and when broken appart from eachother slowly slip into the blood stream through the intestines. Where they hitch rides on red blood cells and find out soul nexus. The part of our bodies that determines our genetic make out. This 'soul nexus' just happens to be part of the Xenuling souls trapped in our bodies. They know the horror of the tomato, and this is when you eat a tomato, you feel that it tastes like mushy crap, it is the soul nexus telling you to stop eating it, that it will one day absorb you into the hive mind. But we can't interpret this normally, it's very difficult for anyone to tap into this latent thought. Only us who spread the truth know of it.

Once these GM tomato genes reach the soul nexus, they integrate their DNA and RNA into it. Making sure that all new cells will be created with this new structure, it may take a few years. but once the magjority of the cells in your body contain this new strand of DNA you will be more susceptible than ever to the mind controlling rays of the tomato plants. This is why our only option is to become a breatharian. We must stop consuming the tomato genes. But why such an extream, surely meat and other foods are safe? No. They are not, many cattle and sheep have ground up tomato and various other plants in their feed, eating their meat will also make us servants to the great tomato, they tomatoes are already absorbing grapes into their hive, and god knows how many other plants already bow down to them and carry these special hidden genes and DNA. Even wearing the wool of a sheep that has the genes will make their brain waves resonate better. Acting like a body antenna. We must stop our normal ways of life and addapt to a new way. Consuming air and light for our energy. Water should also be purified before drinking, but this is something we can already handle. As a race and as humans we must step up and take a big inhaled breath of resistance.

Once we can accomplish this hard task, and by no means will it be easy, it's not easy to suddenly change your diet, this is why most diets fail and people become fat. We may lose alot of people who just can't stop eating food, but those of us who survive will be tasked with rebuilding the population and burning the gigantic fields of GM tomatoes. It's going to be a hard, dark future. But we can do it. I know we can.

For it is all that we can do.

Quote from: Tapewolf on June 18, 2009, 08:04:35 AM

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 18, 2009, 08:02:33 AM
Are you miserable, Tapewolf? I don't think I am...

No, but I doubt the thread owner will be too happy about it.

You're right. I'd rather remove the poll since no one seems to want to take it seriously. Although, I should have expected that from this forum.

And I've eaten many tomatoes in my life and I'm sti

You asked us to compare two things with which we have no real frame of reference.  It's like asking which god out of all religions of the world is the most powerful.  Too many variables, too many things we don't know, and too many things that are pure chance.  Beyond that, who cares?  It's not something really pertinent to DMFA, despite having 'Cubi in it.

Next, this kinda topic always leads to either flame wars as neither side can agree (fan boys, they are a ravenous lot).  So what will likely happen when you bring out flame bait?  The trolls will come and they will flame.  Except most folks here are civil to one another for the most part so instead they'll just use their flaming to derail the thread and prevent any real conflict.  Kinda like the ez-bake oven wars that I believe Damaris has been quoted as talking about.  Something is going to get burned, but it's likely not the people involved.

Addendum:  Beyond that, threads derail naturally all the time.  You can't control it, and you can't stop it, best you can do is see where it goes and enjoy the show.  Rather than get upset about it laugh and enjoy the new direction.

QuoteYou're right. I'd rather remove the poll since no one seems to want to take it seriously. Although, I should have expected that from this forum.

Serious on my internet? never. Go with the flow, do what Mao said. Oooor whine, either way I'm amused.

Looking at the picture, it looks like two sections of rail came apart.  The sections of rail are normally bolted together, so I'm wondering if you are saying that somebody here has a few screws loose.

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Edit

Look at the Killer Tomatoes official web site (http://www.killertomatoes.com) if you want to ketchup with the latest in tomato mayhem.

I grow tomatoes.  Lots of them.

I was smart.  I joined forces with them!   :mwaha

(glance glance, then a Jack Sparrow-ish voice)

Why's the bat gone? :<

Quote from: Naldru on June 18, 2009, 05:21:12 PM
Looking at the picture, it looks like two sections of rail came apart.  The sections of rail are normally bolted together, so I'm wondering if you are saying that somebody here has a few screws loose.

I think that's a switch section of track which is why it looks like that.  Though on this board?  Yea.... anyone with a few lose screws are probably the more sane of the bunch....  >:3

Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 18, 2009, 01:24:53 PM

You're right. I'd rather remove the poll since no one seems to want to take it seriously. Although, I should have expected that from this forum.

What did you expect? A scientifically accurate interweb survey? :P

No one (besides crazed fanboys) actually ever takes a "who would win between Captain Superawesomeman and Doctor Wickedcool-Dudeman" question seriously.

Quote from: Black_angel on June 18, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
(glance glance, then a Jack Sparrow-ish voice)

Why's the bat gone? :<

Disqualified for stealing Cubi's spot.

Quote from: Black_angel on June 18, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
(glance glance, then a Jack Sparrow-ish voice)

Why's the bat gone? :<

off breathing in space.

The killer tomatoes took me hostage, but I managed to become their king. We demand that they receive all votes and that all tomato products be removed from stores everywhere.

just because you slathered yourself in tomato paste and declared yourself the king and Queen of pants, doesn't give you many rights here.

Ok, I just need some sleep. Goodnight.

Quote from: Turnsky on June 20, 2009, 01:30:46 AM
just because you slathered yourself in tomato paste and declared yourself the king and Queen of pants, doesn't give you many rights here.

Bad news for the real King and Queen of Pants Slathered in Tomato Paste then, hey? :P

Cubi is in the lead whit 14 votes. It seams that other contestants have become too self confident and let down they're guard resulting in a feral trashing.

I finally got my BLT. Just thought I'd let you all know. Oh, and I'm closing the poll and declaring Cubi the winner.

Edit: How do I close polls?

Like this.

:locked