Oh boy, another vampire movie.
It made tons of money, even though it's pretty much generic vamp fare and got generally poor reviews.
My favorite review so far: "I'm glad I saw Twilight for one reason: It made the phrase jump the shark obsolete, to be potentially replaced with 'The vampires are playing baseball'."
Bah, vampires are pussies. Can't even take a lil UV.
*thinks* Hmm... I wonder... were CFCs part of a plot to rid the world of vampires by detroying the ozone layer and killing them with the excessive UV radiation!? :U
If so, I suspect the saucer people and the Rand Corporation's involvement! :paranoid
Quote from: Alondro on November 24, 2008, 11:11:14 AM
Oh boy, another vampire movie.
It made tons of money, even though it's pretty much generic vamp fare and got generally poor reviews.
My favorite review so far: "I'm glad I saw Twilight for one reason: It made the phrase jump the shark obsolete, to be potentially replaced with 'The vampires are playing baseball'."
Bah, vampires are pussies. Can't even take a lil UV.
*thinks* Hmm... I wonder... were CFCs part of a plot to rid the world of vampires by detroying the ozone layer and killing them with the excessive UV radiation!? :U
If so, I suspect the saucer people and the Rand Corporation's involvement! :paranoid
According to my sister, in the book the movie is based in, the vampires avoid sunlight becasue it makes them glow all rainbowy.
... Carebear vampires?
I considered catching the free screening at my college, but how I could say "One ticket for Twilight, please" and still retain my dignity?
Or manhood, for that matter?
Quote from: Tipod on November 24, 2008, 01:30:53 PM
I considered catching the free screening at my college, but how I could say "One ticket for Twilight, please" and still retain my dignity?
Or manhood, for that matter?
While wearing a thick hoodie, sunglasses, and a fake beard.
This was enough to make me question why they would even want to make a movie on this book: http://otahyoni.livejournal.com/130432.html
From the small bits I've read, Twilight reads like a bad fanfic with good spelling(if that's even possible).
And that's terrible.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on November 24, 2008, 01:50:46 PMWhile wearing a thick hoodie, sunglasses, and a fake beard.
I think a fake beard would look a little strange on top of my real beard.
Still, I even managed a smile when I asked for a ticket to An American Carol(*), so I don't know what to tell Tipod.
(*) I panicked when I found out that other people were also seeing it, and that's the expression that came up
To me, Twilight has been described as "the next Harry Potter". After reading the first book I agree with that statement, but in the way I see Harry Potter. Good story but over-hyped to the point of annoying.
Quote from: Fragmaster01 on November 24, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
This was enough to make me question why they would even want to make a movie on this book: http://otahyoni.livejournal.com/130432.html
From the small bits I've read, Twilight reads like a bad fanfic with good spelling(if that's even possible).
And that's terrible.
Hehehe heres a thought, maybe we should have Icarus read it aloud. Her Oscar winning preformance in the Mab fan fics made me sad she didn't do more.
Quote from: superluser on November 24, 2008, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on November 24, 2008, 01:50:46 PMWhile wearing a thick hoodie, sunglasses, and a fake beard.
I think a fake beard would look a little strange on top of my real beard.
Still, I even managed a smile when I asked for a ticket to An American Carol(*), so I don't know what to tell Tipod.
(*) I panicked when I found out that other people were also seeing it, and that's the expression that came up
Well, you see, this is when you get some bits of wire and twiddle them in to your side burns and loop them over your ears to give the impression of wearinga badly made fake beard. It might also help to stuff some empty pillow cases into your shirt so they hang out and give the impression that you have stuffed pillows into your shirt to affect a paunch. This is the UU approved method for going, unrecognized, to a popular movie.
This is the only thing Twilight-related I have ever read and loved. (http://xlormp.livejournal.com/553.html) Yes, this is a parody of Twilight. Yes, it is amazing.
Weirdly, my favorite movie critic's criticisms of the movie were pretty much identical to the complaints people have made regarding the books.
I'm not sure I can bring myself to go watch this. I'm all for things dark and 'gothy', but as I hear more and more about this.. it sounds less and less dark and 'gothy' and more and more sappy and 'wangsty'. The description that I've heard so far that stands out to me is that this is essentially Underworld but for teenage girls... which isn't a strong motivation to go see it. Could someone please confirm or deny whether I'll be wasting a good $10 if I go see this?
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2008, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 24, 2008, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on November 24, 2008, 01:50:46 PMWhile wearing a thick hoodie, sunglasses, and a fake beard.
I think a fake beard would look a little strange on top of my real beard.
Still, I even managed a smile when I asked for a ticket to An American Carol(*), so I don't know what to tell Tipod.
(*) I panicked when I found out that other people were also seeing it, and that's the expression that came up
Well, you see, this is when you get some bits of wire and twiddle them in to your side burns and loop them over your ears to give the impression of wearinga badly made fake beard. It might also help to stuff some empty pillow cases into your shirt so they hang out and give the impression that you have stuffed pillows into your shirt to affect a paunch. This is the UU approved method for going, unrecognized, to a popular movie.
Yay anouther pratchett fan...
I was trying to think of that myself
*giggles*
Quote from: Mowser on November 25, 2008, 09:52:02 AM
I'm not sure I can bring myself to go watch this. I'm all for things dark and 'gothy', but as I hear more and more about this.. it sounds less and less dark and 'gothy' and more and more sappy and 'wangsty'. The description that I've heard so far that stands out to me is that this is essentially Underworld but for teenage girls... which isn't a strong motivation to go see it. Could someone please confirm or deny whether I'll be wasting a good $10 if I go see this?
I'm guessing you're right in not seeing it, for i haven't seen it myself. vampire stories tend to be wangsty, preteen "gothic" love stories. i like to call it what it is, emo. it's like harry potter with it's balls cut off.
... on a hilarious side note, the spell check wanted to turn "emo" to "Elmo"
Quote from: thegayhare on November 25, 2008, 11:45:02 AMYay anouther pratchett fan...
I was trying to think of that myself
*giggles*
Which book was that in?
Edit: now that I think of it, it was probably in Moving Pictures, right? (I haven't gotten there yet)
Yes. Moving Pictures.
Since that's where Holy Wood invades Ankh Morpork...
yep moving pictures... though the fake beard with hooks does make an apearance in hogfather too
I'll admit when it comes to vampires, I am not an unbiased source (hellsingdevilmaycryvampirehunterddraculasalem'slot), but even then, I thought Twilight was okay. The leading girl's acting definitely picked up towards the end, and I like the baseball scene. Of course, I haven't QUITE finished the book yet (a friend reads it to me over the phone), but again, I thought the movie was all right. Even my friend liked it, and she's a firm believer in books over movies.
Beetlejuice puts it in simpler words for you losers ;) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDKi67R5NxI)
Vampires suck.
;)
Yes, yes they do. Although for a vampire story, I prefer True Blood and the books it's based off of.
That limited-release Swedish vampire flick got some really good buzz from film festivals. "Let the Right One In", I think.
But yeah, vampire films are terrible on the whole.
Twilight sucks, twilight sucks, it's just a bunch of mary sue crap, twilight sucks, etc.
If I hear one more girl at my school blab about how Edward is ZOMG THE PERFECT GUY and how twilight is the best thing everrrr, I'm gonna snap.
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2008, 01:04:11 PM
According to my sister, in the book the movie is based in, the vampires avoid sunlight becasue it makes them glow all rainbowy.
Nope.
They SPARKLE.
http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Head-Trip-Twilight-Sucks-85504254
I went to see this with my sister because, well, it's my sister. She wanted me to go, so I went with her. She was so upset with me (and a bit with the movie for "leaving a lot of things out") by the end because I was practically laughing my ass off through almost the entire film! I knew before hand that the book was poorly written, but after seeing the movie, I know that not only is it poorly written but also the "true love" in the movie is nothing more than a sick (and slightly perverted) obsession between two people. When they kissed...omg she tried to tear his clothes off! Then he jumped back.. "No I am dangerous" yada yada, then continued to sit on the bed next to her.
So really, he's a creepy stalker who wants to eat her (he watches her sleep every night for literally months), and she's a horny teenager who is in love with something based only on looks. (If you ever happen to skim through the book, the only things she has to say about Edward is how Godly and perfect he is...)
But yes.. not even I enjoyed it for the "romantic tale" it supposedly is.
Twilight makes me want to barf. It's like Eragon, only a F-grade "romance" novel. And that just makes me weep many single tears. :blarf
I wish publishers would stop churning out crap like this so that the people who can actually write get published. But no, they're too busy going "OMG young author WE MUST HAVE YOU AND YOUR SOUL SO WE CAN ADVERTISE YOU AS 'NEW J. K. ROWLING' AND GET MONEYGOLDS."
Well... let's just say there's a reason my mom asked my sister to take my brother to see it. I DISAPPROVE OF THIS NONSENSE. >(
I am being dragged to see it this Saturday. During said movie i will be attempting to leave but will be boxed in by my so-called 'friends' (Who after this movie, will be called 'EX-friends') I'd rather watch Eragon. At least Jeremy Irons is in it.
From my point of view, Twilight is a disease created by the government to corrupt young teenage girls.
VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE, DANGIT!!
Quote from: Dak on November 26, 2008, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2008, 01:04:11 PM
According to my sister, in the book the movie is based in, the vampires avoid sunlight becasue it makes them glow all rainbowy.
Nope.
They SPARKLE.
glow, sparkle, tomato, to-mah-toe
(let's call the whole thing off)
My older sister kinda wants to see it (she's 28 for cryin' outloud!) but she's avoiding it until she can go when school is in session adn all the teen girl squads are in class.
She suggested that the movie would be of interest to furries.. or, rather, later books in the series once they introduce the werewolf... I don't wanna know what was done to werewolves if the vampies <i>sparkle</i>. (is't anime, bishonen sparkles? bleah :yuck )
The Werewolves are cool. I liked them.
one out of two things i liked in said books.
The movie, through commercials, are ticking me off. They didn't get the right actor for Edward. Nor for Emmet. or Alice.
Fail. Fail HARD.
Quote from: Xze-Xze on November 27, 2008, 03:18:30 AM
From my point of view, Twilight is a disease created by the government to corrupt young teenage girls.
Hah! Could be, could be.
This book's "relationship" is mainly based on looks, which is a BAD MESSAGE TO SENT TO YOUNG GIRLS (most who by the way are ALREADY shallow and pretty moronic.) Also, it appears that this is the sick fantasy love of the author, who, by the look of things, doesn't really understand how relationships are really suppose to work. Another bad message to send out to the readers. Relationships aren't suppose to be obsessive to the point of "IF YOU LEAVE ME THE WORLD WILL IMPLODE" or "you are my life now" <- Wtf co-dependency.
So this book furthers my beliefs that the "New York Times 'Bestsellers'" are
not meant to introduce us to good literature (at least not anymore), but rather feed us garbage to dumb us down so that over generations of time we are unable to come up with logical reasons/thoughts of our own... makes it easier for our rights and freedoms to be taken away if we don't know better.
I'm just scared for if they make #2 and onwards into movies.
ANGSTANGSTANGST
Not to mention SUICIDE ATTEMPTS that SHOULD work but do NOT.
Oh, and the fact they butchered the movie so much that they took out all the KEY ELEMENTS scares me because OMFG ARE THEY GONNA TAKE OUT JACOB TOO!?!?!
Seriously. Jacob Black. Thus far, best developed character. Loves him. I admit that i'm a fangirl. Wheeeeee... :boogie
Got a sneak peek from a friend's cell phone recording (KRIS, YOU BAD BOI!)...and...the sparkles. oh god. No.
I'mma go make my own movie version. It'll be better. And there'll only be a total of 2 actors in the whole thing. it'll still be better.
SORRY FOR THE RANTNESS and possibly not making sense. :B
OOooooo and Squeeness!! A quote from Patterson (Guy who plays Edward) and i wants to luffle him <3
Quote"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."
Quote from: Alondro on November 26, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
Vampires suck.
;)
no that is a myth they scrap and lick
Quote from: Xze-Xze on November 27, 2008, 03:18:30 AM
I am being dragged to see it this Saturday. During said movie i will be attempting to leave but will be boxed in by my so-called 'friends' (Who after this movie, will be called 'EX-friends') I'd rather watch Eragon. At least Jeremy Irons is in it.
From my point of view, Twilight is a disease created by the government to corrupt young teenage girls.
VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE, DANGIT!!
I'll admit, that was a bit disappointing. I guess Kentucky-fried Edward wouldn't be quite as sexy. But I think it's unfair to compare it to Eragon. That just plain sucked. Twilight had its moments. Eragon did not. The only good thing about that movie was Jeremy Irons. That. Was. ALL.
Also, here's a question ... who has more angst - the characters in the movie, or the whining Twilight fans? :B Don't shoot me, I'm not done with the book yet.
Quote from: Elieana on November 27, 2008, 04:35:03 AM
Also, it appears that this is the sick fantasy love of the author, who, by the look of things, doesn't really understand how relationships are really suppose to work.
Duh. Just look at pretty much any romance novel. And this one has sparkly vampires and teen wangst so of course it's going to be horrible.
Also, I laughed at this from her wikipedia article:
Meyer, an avid reader,[29] cites many novels as inspiration for the Twilight series, including Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë and Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery.[30] She also says that her writing is strongly influenced by music, and she posts "playlists" on her website of songs which specifically inspired her books.
Bands included most often in her playlists are Muse, Blue October, My Chemical Romance, Coldplay, and Linkin Park.Craaaaawwwliiiing iiiin my skiiiiiin
No wonder teenage girls love her.
:C
Quote from: thegayhare on November 27, 2008, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 26, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
Vampires suck.
;)
no that is a myth they scrap and lick
QUOTED FOR AWESOME and Billy and Mandy quoting. :B
In other news, how does a vegetarian vampire work? Does he eat like Bunnicula? :U
Quote from: Robbychu on November 27, 2008, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on November 27, 2008, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 26, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
Vampires suck.
;)
no that is a myth they scrap and lick
QUOTED FOR AWESOME and Billy and Mandy quoting. :B
In other news, how does a vegetarian vampire work? Does he eat like Bunnicula? :U
V8
:giggle
"Carrot juice constitutes murder, V8's genocide.
Greenhouses prisons for slaves, yes your compost's a grave.
It's time to stop all this gardening, take up macramé
Let's call a spade a spade it's a spade it's a spade it's a spade"
Quote from: Xze-Xze on November 27, 2008, 04:51:49 AM
Quote"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."
I think I love Pattinson now.
Also, Xze, you have good taste - Jeremy Irons is amazing.
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
Quote from: Black_angel on November 27, 2008, 01:55:07 PM
But I think it's unfair to compare it to Eragon. That just plain sucked. Twilight had its moments. Eragon did not. The only good thing about that movie was Jeremy Irons. That. Was. ALL.
I haven't seen Twilight, not do I plan to, but this is bunk. Eragon had dragons. Far cooler than vampires.
However, if you put a dragon in a movie with Alucard, be it Castlevania or Hellsing, all will be well.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 09, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
Buuuut... Angel was teh coolness! :B
Not. Yeah, they're pretty much all angsty power-gamers.
And they can't even take sunlight. Bah! Losers.
Or a stake through the heart! Harumph! If I died every time I got staked through the heart, why I'd be dead!
I've seen a few good vampire films in my time
Sundown was an interesting one.
and I've heard good things about 30days of night
and I did see a pretty cool show featuring vampires and Elvis impersonators
Quote from: thegayhare on December 09, 2008, 12:43:07 PM
I've seen a few good vampire films in my time
Sundown was an interesting one.
and I've heard good things about 30days of night
and I did see a pretty cool show featuring vampires and Elvis impersonators
oh he's not dead, he just went home!
still though, vampires are supposed to be pains in the butt, not the main characters in possibly horrible love stories. i still need to see it but from what i saw in the trailers it could really use Alucard chucking trains at random bystanders, or something equally as impressive.
Meh, Alucard was a damn powergamer too.
(OMG! He's really Dracula!)
Yeah, I kinda picked up on that like... instantly. Duh. :P
Quote from: Alondro on December 10, 2008, 12:55:21 PM
Meh, Alucard was a damn powergamer too.
(OMG! He's really Dracula!)
Yeah, I kinda picked up on that like... instantly. Duh. :P
Not gonna argue with that one. I was embarrassed when I realized that I hadn't found out about his name...
But Alucard is one of the few anime characters I know who can be a powergamer without being really annoying or getting topped somehow. Goku had to chatter so much he ruined it, that and he kept dying. Kenshin could do it, but then spoilers happened; also, he was only really a powergamer when Battosai broke loose. The Sannin rocked, but then Team 7 came along and now three experienced ninjas are being surpassed by children. Alucard, though... somehow he dodges anything that could ruin him. At least for me. :P
I miss when vampires were just hairless, pale European guys who slept in coffins and said "blaeh, blaeh!" alot.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 09, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
yes, good old vlad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler
fanfiction isn't respectable. ever. i was simply trying to avoid the flames, but it seems i went out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 11, 2008, 11:42:45 PM
fanfiction isn't respectable. ever. i was simply trying to avoid the flames, but it seems i went out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Objection! Respectable fanfiction exists. "Breaking character to bend to the author's whims," "Hello I'm the author and I'm also the
best thing ever since sliced bread" and "Let's write a fifteen-chapter story that amounts to one long, slow-paced orgy" are not the only genres out there - just the ones favored by a certain, unfortunately large vein of author.
i just wanna now how so many of that vein came into existence.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 02, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Xze-Xze on November 27, 2008, 04:51:49 AM
Quote"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."
I think I love Pattinson now.
Also, Xze, you have good taste - Jeremy Irons is amazing.
Y thank you :3
And apparently they're already working on New Moon. The same lady isn't directing it though. But the cast is pretty much the same.
Emo movie anyone?
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 12, 2008, 11:45:57 PM
i just wanna now how so many of that vein came into existence.
Lack of originality, I presume. Either way, I wouldn't dismiss all fanfiction as being lackluster. I've seen some truly fantastic examples. One of them did more justice to a certain Harry Potter character than the actual
author did. (Granted, the character was one who never received much positive exposition until the final book - and no, it was NOT Draco Malfoy.)
I've only seen the trailer for this movie, but since I've already seen buffy, andgel, kindred, JC vampires, the blade trilogy, and god knows how many other generic vampire movies I can tell you AI saw noting in the trailers that impressed me about this movie. You'd be better off waiting for the upcoming Darren Shan trillogy, than waste your money on this, as I've seen no evidence of anything remarkable about the picture...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 14, 2008, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 12, 2008, 11:45:57 PM
i just wanna now how so many of that vein came into existence.
Lack of originality, I presume. Either way, I wouldn't dismiss all fanfiction as being lackluster. I've seen some truly fantastic examples. One of them did more justice to a certain Harry Potter character than the actual author did. (Granted, the character was one who never received much positive exposition until the final book - and no, it was NOT Draco Malfoy.)
yes, i'm a hardcore gargoyles fan, and have been meaning to read the fanfic's about what happens after the second season (the third doesn't count) but never got around to it.
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 12, 2008, 11:45:57 PM
i just wanna now how so many of that vein came into existence.
That would be because of the Internet, and Rules 34-36. Stupid people are a majority, and the Internet gives everyone a voice. So stupid people are abundant on the internet as they are everywhere in life. As for fanfiction, well, it depends on what type of fanfiction you're talking about. I think you can find or write quality fanfiction as long as you follow a few rules. Among them are:
Mary Sues/Marty Stus are off-limits. No exceptions. NONE.
Keep everyone in character. If you can't, don't write it.
Spell correctly and use good grammar.
OCs are okay, but make every effort to keep them from being a Mary Sue. If this is impossible, don't write the fic.
No extreme Deus Ex Machina. The bravest writers can hurt their favorite characters.
There is no such thing as perfection.
Accept constructive criticism, and avoid flame wars.
Know how to laugh at yourself and the series for which you are writing.
...You know, I think there should a fanfiction MLA handbook.
EDIT: Quick question: are second-person perspective fics (self-insertions, i.e., "you did this") and Mary-Sue fics the same thing? I don't think they're EXACTLY the same...
(Insert lyrics from a Joe Hickerson song here. I wish I could find it again. It involves the pun, "...you'll have to look in vein.")
Saw it today after repeated and stressed endorsements from a friend.
There's been worse. A lot worse. Although that may be partly due to how I watched it, what with all the forewarning flying around. As less a traditional love story and more a character study of "teenage girl utterly blinded to reason by hormones (who happens to luck out in this case and get a decent guy)" and "quasi-teenage vampire boy with multiple issues only some of which are preternatural in nature," it stood up fairly well.
Our friend Mr. Pattinson helped a lot in that department. He made an extremely effective, unnerving creepy guy with just a hint of "just eccentric?" in his early scenes.
The vampires. On their own, they're a respectable, fairly original breed of fantastic creature. But actually attaching the "vampire" label to them is pushing it. If they really have to use that word, I would have appreciated a line to the effect of "that's what we call ourselves, it's close enough." I did enjoy Edward's "As if" speech, though Bella's reaction had to be filed back under, "lalala, she's not thinking clearly, and neither is anyone who thinks she is."
(Just before that, when she's figured out what she is and promptly strikes off to confront him, in the forest, alone - was anyone else screaming, at least in their minds, for her to stay in a public area and notify the police at the first opportunity? "You're going the wrong way, Bella!" I think that's actually about when I settled on my "not in her right mind" interpretation.)
Cold-skinned, blood-drinking pale creeper. "Say it out loud!" If that doesn't turn into some kind of meme...
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 09, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
Objection!
... Do I even have to say it? :rolleyes
I'd vote for PTerry's vampires, only I don't think they pass the "serious" muster...
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on December 20, 2008, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 09, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
Objection!
... Do I even have to say it? :rolleyes
I had actually forgotten about you. :b
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 20, 2008, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on December 20, 2008, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 09, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: scorpio803 on December 08, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
I just wish the twilight craze would be over already. Not only does it ruin, RUIN the reputation of all respectable vampires, it's utterly annoying when the girl next to me in English is like "OMG, OMG, your hair looks like carlile!"
....wait, there are respectable ones in professional fiction? Or maybe fanfiction? This is where I die laughing. Outside of good old classic Dracula and the Nosferatu, I don't think there's been a good, serious vampire ever.
Objection!
... Do I even have to say it? :rolleyes
I had actually forgotten about you. :b
You... you mean that night in Minsk meant NOTHING to you?! :cry
Is cool. Technically Vampires are a subset of Djinn in the LR mythos anyway, so maybe they fall under the "Well, Vampire is just the most convenient thing to call them" theory.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 20, 2008, 06:32:39 PM
I'd vote for PTerry's vampires, only I don't think they pass the "serious" muster...
Serious, no, but he does take and treat them seriously. I'd say they count as the "good" kind of vampires. And The Dresden Files 'verse has some good vampires too: if I recall, the only reason that the "sexy" vampires are sexy is to make it easier to attract their prey. And of course, both of those universes have multiple types of vampires so they get to eat their cake and have it too.
Quote from: Jairus on December 20, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 20, 2008, 06:32:39 PM
I'd vote for PTerry's vampires, only I don't think they pass the "serious" muster...
Serious, no, but he does take and treat them seriously. I'd say they count as the "good" kind of vampires. And The Dresden Files 'verse has some good vampires too: if I recall, the only reason that the "sexy" vampires are sexy is to make it easier to attract their prey. And of course, both of those universes have multiple types of vampires so they get to eat their cake and have it too.
So, then, different classes of vampire in literature... hm.
Sexy vampire - the monster equivalent of a pitcher plant. Attracts prey with the promise of something good, then devours them.
Monster vampires - Nosferatu. The guys who remind you that yes, these ARE bloodsucking monsters.
Good vampires - I assume these are the vampires who do their best not to kill humans. They kill animals, are disgusted at what they are, and tend to be emo-fangirl bait.
Bad vampires - they guys who want to kill all the humans not just for the sake of food, but because they WANT to kill. They either hate humans, or they love killing.
I think that's all of them...
What about the Ultimate Hellsing OVA? I'm just getting into the anime, but the vampires there are pretty cool.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 20, 2008, 07:54:52 PM
What about the Ultimate Hellsing OVA? I'm just getting into the anime, but the vampires there are pretty cool.
...Well, I WAS trying to avoid the topic, because whenever it comes up I won't shut up for at least twenty minutes because that show is MADE OF PURE AWESOME.
But yes. The Hellsing vampires all rock. Let me know how obsessed you get, Keaton. >:]
Quote from: Black_angel on December 20, 2008, 08:00:09 PM
...Well, I WAS trying to avoid the topic, because whenever it comes up I won't shut up for at least twenty minutes because that show is MADE OF PURE AWESOME.
But yes. The Hellsing vampires all rock. Let me know how obsessed you get, Keaton. >:]
Blackie, PM me. We shall make sweet fangirl music together. >:3
i thought this thread was dead, as well as the twighlight craze. sadly i was mistaken.
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on December 20, 2008, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 20, 2008, 06:36:06 PM
I had actually forgotten about you. :b
You... you mean that night in Minsk meant NOTHING to you?! :cry
Is cool. Technically Vampires are a subset of Djinn in the LR mythos anyway, so maybe they fall under the "Well, Vampire is just the most convenient thing to call them" theory.
Shhh! No one was supposed to hear about that! :hug
And hey, at least Jigsaw isn't hitting on every pretty boy in sight with promises of svcking zeir blud! Except when you show up in chat, I guess. o.o;
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 20, 2008, 08:02:48 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on December 20, 2008, 08:00:09 PM
...Well, I WAS trying to avoid the topic, because whenever it comes up I won't shut up for at least twenty minutes because that show is MADE OF PURE AWESOME.
But yes. The Hellsing vampires all rock. Let me know how obsessed you get, Keaton. >:]
Blackie, PM me. We shall make sweet fangirl music together. >:3
Hellsing OVA? I thought it was stupid.
*pushes the Keaton's shiny buttons* >:3
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 20, 2008, 08:40:40 PMAnd hey, at least Jigsaw isn't hitting on every pretty boy in sight with promises of svcking zeir blud! Except when you show up in chat, I guess. o.o;
No, not every pretty boy in chat.
Just you. ;)
Quote from: Alondro on December 20, 2008, 10:42:45 PMHellsing OVA? I thought it was stupid.
*pushes the Keaton's shiny buttons* >:3
:U
BLASPHEMEEEEEEEEER :O
Quote from: Black_angel on December 20, 2008, 07:39:38 PM
So, then, different classes of vampire in literature... hm.
I think that's all of them...
There are also reformed vampires
Such as the black ribboners of terry pratchett fame
These are vampires who truely desire to fit into human society in a world where vampires don't need blood. its a relex for them, a way to keep score as it were.
Black ribboners swear off the B word as they call it so that they can fit into polite society. They focus they're thrist, there driving supernatural addiction towards something else. In the books there were a number of them listed. Otto von Chriek focuses on light and perfecting his art of photography. others have shifted this drive to coffee or even politics.
but they look strange many wear stero typical vampire garb that has been warped some how by there new obsession
Otto Chriek for example still wears a black velvet opera cape, it is lined with pockets (similar to a photographer's vest). By ensuring people find him funny, he is able to ensure they do not find him threatening.
I think the best thing about Otto is his reaction to the flash on his camera.
For those of you who aren't aware, the flash is a bright blast of sunlight. Which promptly turns him into dust...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 22, 2008, 05:47:06 AM
I think the best thing about Otto is his reaction to the flash on his camera.
For those of you who aren't aware, the flash is a bright blast of sunlight. Which promptly turns him into dust...
Yes but he's also developed the kit, A glass vial on a necklace with a few drops of animal b-vord when he crumbles the glass smashes on the ground and the b-vord reconstitutes him. ... which is a step up from the old standard of the card "Help I've crumbled and I can't get up" Acording to Sally von Humpeding the kit has become a standard among black ribboners
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 22, 2008, 05:47:06 AM
I think the best thing about Otto is his reaction to the flash on his camera.
For those of you who aren't aware, the flash is a bright blast of sunlight. Which promptly turns him into dust...
Is that why vampires don't appear in photographs?
Quote from: Black_angel on December 22, 2008, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 22, 2008, 05:47:06 AM
I think the best thing about Otto is his reaction to the flash on his camera.
For those of you who aren't aware, the flash is a bright blast of sunlight. Which promptly turns him into dust...
Is that why vampires don't appear in photographs?
LOL
maybe on the discworld
On the disc camera's are basicly boxes with a imp trapped inside you hit the button a little hammer thumps the imp on the head and he looks out the window and paints what he sees. For a flash you use salamanders which store up the disc's rather slow and sluggish sunlight in special glands. when they get scared they release the sunlight in a bright blinding flash... Photographers prefure them for taking pictures in dark places.