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Title: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Stygian on October 25, 2007, 10:57:23 PM
I hate you for this, Amber. But it's a good kind of hate.
Title: 10/26/07 [#836] THE HECK!?!?!
Post by: AndersW on October 25, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
What the frig is going on?

Edit: beat me to posting the topic by 42 seconds. have a cookie.  :mowcookie
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Mischa on October 25, 2007, 10:59:06 PM
Oh, come on!  How could anyone hate Amber for buying a toaster?

Or would they hate her for the Matilda wallpaper?  I'm... confused.

That all aside, awesome comic.  I love how everything that was built up last episode is immediately deflated and redirected.  XD
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: nikename2 on October 25, 2007, 11:02:08 PM
Awesome last panel.  :mwaha
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Caswin on October 25, 2007, 11:02:42 PM
...wow.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Jigsaw Forte on October 25, 2007, 11:04:00 PM
Wait, WHAT?!

:goamber
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: AndersW on October 25, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
Wait, Albanion is the family friend that gets the soul of Mab's father. :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Kenji on October 25, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
This seems like an awfully convoluted plan. Far more than it has to be.   :shineget
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Stygian on October 25, 2007, 11:09:45 PM
Quote from: AndersW on October 25, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
Wait, Albanion is the family friend that gets the soul of Mab's father. :mowdizzy

Wow. Time for some coffee, perhaps?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on October 25, 2007, 11:22:23 PM
Ah,  I was wondering when they would all truly start acting like fae.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: wussycat on October 25, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
I don't get it. Could someone please explain in easy-to-understand terms?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Mischa on October 25, 2007, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kenji on October 25, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
This seems like an awfully convoluted plan. Far more than it has to be.   :shineget

Pffft, doesn't that seem like just the kind of plan the fae would conceive?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Kenji on October 25, 2007, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: Mischa on October 25, 2007, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kenji on October 25, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
This seems like an awfully convoluted plan. Far more than it has to be.   :shineget

Pffft, doesn't that seem like just the kind of plan the fae would conceive?

Actually this seems moreso for even a fae. :B Then again, what do I know about races who have nothing better to do than to play Jenga with peoples minds.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Netrogo on October 25, 2007, 11:33:06 PM
I'm so confused... :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Reese Tora on October 25, 2007, 11:37:51 PM
Mab has a nefarious plan to make Jyrras grow as a person? :B
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Nino on October 25, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
Man. I had to read this comic like 5 times to understand it.

I _think_ that what it is trying to say is that Mab was planning giving the soul to Alby here all along as long as he did something for her -- in other words, as long as he cursed Jyrras.

Which begs the question, why? Is she offended at Jy not liking her brownies? Or perhaps this "curse" is something else entirely, maybe something that will help Jyrras.

Or, a real stretch, something to do with the creature council.

Wait a minute, when it finally takes affect? Should that be "effect" or not?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Aurawyn on October 25, 2007, 11:47:28 PM
 :erk  :giggle
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Fragmaster01 on October 25, 2007, 11:49:21 PM
Because the Fae are so powerful, their plans involve manipulating the minds of the readers!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Demont on October 25, 2007, 11:52:07 PM
 ok I'm lost :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: KarlOmega1 on October 25, 2007, 11:53:22 PM
Hang on...I'm really confused here...what in Inferno is going on? Mab set Jyrass up or something?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 25, 2007, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: Kattuccino on October 25, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
Wait a minute, when it finally takes affect? Should that be "effect" or not?

Affect means to produce a change in something. Effect is something that takes place because of an agency or cause.

Stairway to Heaven affects my mood.
The grammar lesson had the effect of putting everyone to sleep.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Anri on October 25, 2007, 11:57:42 PM
k.. so.. buh?  :erk
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Madmann135 on October 26, 2007, 12:12:01 AM
I think I get it, as stated here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_823.php).
The bangles are Mab's way of watching out of Jyrras when she's not around. 

Which begs the question...
How does Mab know that Jyrras's life has now become a creature magnet?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Regal on October 26, 2007, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: Wussycat on October 25, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
I don't get it. Could someone please explain in easy-to-understand terms?

Mab is secretly EVIL.   :mowninja
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Falcarthum on October 26, 2007, 12:17:26 AM
Oh my...! Now I know how it feel a mind snap...

Thanks amber for breaking my world...  :U
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Psaakyrn on October 26, 2007, 12:19:03 AM
Ok, lets refresh.

a) Mab was young with Dan. (obviously a disguise, since she noted that several linears died out on her.)
b) There's a reasonable chance a lot of this is an act. (point A, + her not having regrets, + current comic)
c) http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_695.php still nags me. I think it was intentional. (given that there's no reason to believe she doesn't have the ability to shapeshift Pyroduck herself)
d) Apparently Nutmeg doesn't know of all this. Or she's an even better actor than it seems. Granted, Mabby didn't seem that villainous to start off with..
e) That's a lot of coincidences, with one final result. Granted, she could've spoken with Albanion when she first left the group, which makes it all less of a coincidence.
f) Rose however, is likely to not know anything. Rose apparently is a "younger fae". Given what has happened, there's a very good chance she may be a new permanent character.
g) If cursing Jyrras, is phase 3, what's phase 1 and 2? (Though... Fa'lina cound be involved. Just a hunch)
h) So, It's not exactly a directly hurtful curse? (unhappy is a couple notched above pained or death..)
i) And of cause, what's phase 4...
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: superluser on October 26, 2007, 12:19:19 AM
I'm confused as to why Mab would do that.

But that's probably because this isn't comic 837.

In other news, I'm disturbed that Albanion got the soul.  I haven't read James Morrow's Only Begotten Daughter, in which Christ's second coming is as a woman born to a virgin man, but I'm imagining that it would be pretty painful.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Psaakyrn on October 26, 2007, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on October 26, 2007, 12:12:01 AM
I think I get it, as stated here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_823.php).
The bangles are Mab's way of watching out of Jyrras when she's not around. 

Which begs the question...
How does Mab know that Jyrras's life has now become a creature magnet?

2 possibilities immediately comes to mind: Mows, and Deebs. There's also the other aspects, but if Albanion knows, there's no reason why Mab shouldn't know too, since they're in cahoots.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: wussycat on October 26, 2007, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: Regal on October 26, 2007, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: Wussycat on October 25, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
I don't get it. Could someone please explain in easy-to-understand terms?

Mab is secretly EVIL.   :mowninja
Still confused.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: nikename2 on October 26, 2007, 12:36:51 AM
Mabye a hit was called out on Jy.  :U
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Psaakyrn on October 26, 2007, 12:48:56 AM
Or.... Albanion cursed Jyrras to be Homosexual! (and he is unhappy because of that reveletion) It all makes sense!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Saist on October 26, 2007, 01:08:28 AM
... I only have this to say.

WTBH?????
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 26, 2007, 01:39:35 AM
It's been said before, in many different ways, and deserves to be said again.


Amber is the queen of manipulating you to be led down one path of emotion, perception, and forsight, all of which are false, only to blindside you in places you never knew you had.


How Amber got to be this good, I will probably never know.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Reese Tora on October 26, 2007, 01:41:40 AM
You know, thinking on this...

This gives more credance to the possibility that Albanion was pretending to be Nutmeg pretending to be Albanion as part of the complex dance that Mab is calling the numbers of.

Mab wants Jyrras to become cursed.
Mab talks Albanion in to playing the villen of the piece.
Mab contrives to take everyone on an adventure where they are secluded when Albanion makes his debut.
Mab waits for Albanion to be in position to be 'revealed' as the very huggy Nurmeg by way of stabbing him through the back and chest so that, when 'Nutmeg' offers a hug to him, he flees.
The pieces now being in place for the curse, Mab et all travel to the fae realm and leaves Jyrras alone with Albanion so he can place the curse.

Worse plans have been hatched at 2am over a case of beer...
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Mischa on October 26, 2007, 02:02:31 AM
Quote from: Reese Tora on October 26, 2007, 01:41:40 AM
You know, thinking on this...

This gives more credance to the possibility that Albanion was pretending to be Nutmeg pretending to be Albanion as part of the complex dance that Mab is calling the numbers of.

Mab wants Jyrras to become cursed.
Mab talks Albanion in to playing the villen of the piece.
Mab contrives to take everyone on an adventure where they are secluded when Albanion makes his debut.
Mab waits for Albanion to be in position to be 'revealed' as the very huggy Nurmeg by way of stabbing him through the back and chest so that, when 'Nutmeg' offers a hug to him, he flees.
The pieces now being in place for the curse, Mab et all travel to the fae realm and leaves Jyrras alone with Albanion so he can place the curse.

Worse plans have been hatched at 2am over a case of beer...

... That's scary.  I hadn't thought about the plan being that deep, but it actually answers several questions.  For example, I'd always figured Nutmeg had just told Albanion about what happened... but if Albanion was impersonating Nutmeg (impersonating Albanion :3), he would've known that Jyrras made her cry.  His connection with Mab also explains how he might've known about Jyrras' lab, since Mab's worked there before (helping with the patches, if nothing else.  XD)
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: King Of Hearts on October 26, 2007, 02:37:04 AM
O Mab, you just did Fa'Lina proud.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Reaver225 on October 26, 2007, 02:45:03 AM
I don't know, an immortal lifetime of Mab's cooking would be considered a pretty bad curse...
/random speculation

(alzo ZOMG, WTH, BBQ ETC)
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Goatmon on October 26, 2007, 02:50:56 AM
W...whut?  Huh?  Hoe?   *Confusion*

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/dudewtf-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Manawolf on October 26, 2007, 03:12:06 AM
Once again, we're looking for something simple.

WHHHHHYYYYYY!!!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 03:53:19 AM
Two words: Operation Mind____.

Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 26, 2007, 12:21:00 AM
2 possibilities immediately comes to mind: Mows, and Deebs. There's also the other aspects, but if Albanion knows, there's no reason why Mab shouldn't know too, since they're in cahoots.

Not only that, but Mab is a Fae and therefore extremely powerful.  If that doesn't include some form of empathy and/or mindreading, I'd be kind of surprised.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Turnsky on October 26, 2007, 04:24:13 AM
this says it all
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/hurtybrain1.jpg)
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Kuari on October 26, 2007, 05:20:40 AM
If Mab is an evil bitch, I swear..

KITTENS!!!
WILL!!!
BE!!!!
SMITED!!!

Thank you.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: computer nerd on October 26, 2007, 05:47:08 AM
Didn't see that coming  :3
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Mwa on October 26, 2007, 05:49:17 AM
Eee. Evil fae. <3
Also, is it just me or is the 'soooo unhappy'  rather sarcastic?
They both have a "Haha, this is a fun game" sort of stance, don't you think?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 26, 2007, 06:29:17 AM
Yay! Steamroller!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Naldru on October 26, 2007, 06:38:34 AM
Two quotes come to mind

Shakespeare: All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players

Machiavelli:  It is better to be feared than loved  (Perhaps the story that Albanion destroyed an entire race over who invented the yo-yo (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/fae.php) was planted by Albanion so that people would be less likely to cross him.  Since Albanion is feared, people are less likely to hurt Jyrras for fear of depriving Albanion of his revenge.)

As a possibility for earlier phases:

The breeding of Jyrras.  The circumstances behind the meeting of Jyrras's parents (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_328.php) does seem like something that could have been arranged.  Also, as I mentioned before, there does seem to be a slight resemblance to Akaen (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/angel.php), especially around the ears.

The funding of Jyrras's research.  After all, Akaen has invested in a number of technologies that beings have been making as stated in the Demonology 101 page.

As a possibility for the next phase:

Giving Jyrras some emotional maturity and understanding.
*****  *****
Edit:

Okay llearch, I fixed it

By the way, how is llearch pronounced?  Is it like "lurch", as in "He lurched across the deck like a drunken sailor in a typhoon".
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 26, 2007, 07:15:24 AM
Quote from: Naldru on October 26, 2007, 06:38:34 AM
Shakespeare: All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely actors

*cough*
Quote
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts.

If you're going to quote, quote correctly. Sans teeth, sands eyes, sans taste, sans everything...
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on October 26, 2007, 07:34:50 AM
The worst curse, Jyrras..... To be Bless by the gods, or the good intentions of Fae Friends...   :mwaha   :hug

No NO no Amber  Not a Toaster.....  I did not want to give you a toaster....for your wedding/anniversary

God Bless you and yours,  Amber  :mowcookie  :hug
PBH

Edit: Yea spelling
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: thegayhare on October 26, 2007, 08:23:35 AM
Ohh no a toaster

now that'll just out shine my aniversery/ masons birthday package...

*pouts*

I just hope amber doesn't mind that it's late
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: SpottedKitty on October 26, 2007, 08:43:51 AM
All I can say is...  :erk

I think my boggle-o-meter just broke.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: E-Jade on October 26, 2007, 08:55:52 AM
All I have to say is...Zah? :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: AndersW on October 26, 2007, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 26, 2007, 06:29:17 AM
Yay! Steamroller!

Quote from: Amber Williams on September 25, 2007, 11:30:35 AM
Quote from: Raist on September 25, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
I don't think Amber particularly likes surprises.

Oh I don't mind them.   I just don't go out of my way to throw them into every possible comic.  I tend to prefer to just coast along and let the really big ones blindside people like a steamroller.

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6194/gankedjz1.jpg)

Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 26, 2007, 09:28:51 AM
That's such a great movie.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: icarus on October 26, 2007, 09:38:34 AM
hahahahahahahaaaaaaa


this thread made me laugh so hard
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: rt on October 26, 2007, 10:08:54 AM
Huzzabublewha?

Well I think I got how the plan worked in my mind. Now on too whatever the phase 4 is. And mabey waiting to see if the bangles do nothing, or now possibly do something good, heck mabey they've done something good already.

:) And toast for everyone !
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 10:14:25 AM
*Charline laughs!*  See?  I told you the Fae were eviler than us Cubi!  Sure one of us is planning to destroy the dragon race, and sure we eat Beings souls whenever we feel like it, but at least we're not playing games behind our friends' backs and manipulating them to go along with our evil plans.

See, we ASK if the Beings want to be part of our plans... and outright kill them when they refuse.  Much nicer!   >:3
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Caswin on October 26, 2007, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 10:14:25 AMSee, we ASK if the Beings want to be part of our plans...
(shouting, way in the back of the room) You do not!

*Pause* ...uh-oh.

[screaming]
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 26, 2007, 12:19:58 PM
no Al simply cursed Jyrras to like cookies... :mowcookie 

:eager AHHHH the horror! 
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Mischa on October 26, 2007, 01:45:32 PM
If Plan B involves eating muffins, Phase 4 likely involves eating cookies.  :P
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Zedd on October 26, 2007, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on October 26, 2007, 04:24:13 AM
this says it all
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/hurtybrain1.jpg)
HULLO! Amber from one Gumby head to another I have a message for you...My brain hurts too...

And for clever ass of a fae horse..Shes taking it quite well
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: wussycat on October 26, 2007, 01:59:02 PM
Mab is evil? Sorry, but my brain is incapable of comprehending that.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Aleolus on October 26, 2007, 02:30:58 PM
...Wait, Mab Wanted Jy to be marked by the Fae?  Does she know something the rest of us don't, which she is wanting to protect Jy from, like possibly the Creature Council, wanting to *ahem* remove Jyrras, or something similar?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Azraelle on October 26, 2007, 03:04:42 PM
I'm thinking it could possibly be as protection, like Aleolus just said (read the entire thread to see if anyone else thought of that).  The rule with the bracelet is that if a being is marked by a Fae, they're off-limits to anyone else's schemes, right?  Hopefully the creature council recognizes and respects that.

Or, she's just been playing us all like a fiddle.  Sooo many strings, that fiddle has ...
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 03:11:05 PM
*Charles erms*  I dunno about protection, although Albanion's comments about it making him very unhappy could be misleading.  He might be unhappy about the interference or whatnot.  Alas, Amber has made it purposely ambiguous... which means she's casting her own evil upon her character.   ;)
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 03:17:57 PM
Quote from: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 03:11:05 PM
Alas, Amber has made it purposely ambiguous... which means she's casting her own evil upon her character.   ;)

What is not ambiguous is that Mab goes to Albanion whenever she wants someone else to do the dirty work  :B
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Eibborn on October 26, 2007, 04:00:24 PM
Do you guys remember how earlier this day, Mab was bored and wanted an adventure with Jyrras? Well... Here we go! Should be fun!
So... what do you think the curse is? He gradually turns green? Shrinks? Grows? It can't be too severe or too sudden, because then there's no fun to be had in removing it. . .
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: terrycloth on October 26, 2007, 04:08:21 PM
Obviously, he'll be turned into a Cubi.

I'd say a fey, but they can't make more, apparently.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: terrycloth on October 26, 2007, 04:08:21 PM
Obviously, he'll be turned into a Cubi.

I'd say a fey, but they can't make more, apparently.

That's already been nixed (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=3201.msg137879#msg137879)...

Quote from: Amber Williams on August 10, 2007, 11:35:31 PM
oh dear gods...

Please tell me you guys aren't actually thinking Albanion turned Jyrras into a Cubi is an actual plausable speculation? D:

That makes even my piddly walnut brain hurt. :<

Evidently Fae aren't quite that all-powerful.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Zedd on October 26, 2007, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on August 10, 2007, 11:35:31 PM
oh dear gods...

Please tell me you guys aren't actually thinking Albanion turned Jyrras into a Cubi is an actual plausable speculation? D:

That makes even my piddly walnut brain hurt. :<

Evidently Fae aren't quite that all-powerful.

I can say no doi about this matter..But I do belive all this has to come with SOME limit of power somewhere
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 04:29:12 PM
Evidently Fae aren't quite that all-powerful.

It isn't so much a matter of power so much that it's a really. lame. idea.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:30:45 PM
It isn't so much a matter of power so much that it's a really. lame. idea.
Fair enough.  I thought it had its charms from an 'immortality is a curse' point of view, in particular Dan's musings in 310, but yeah, among other things it would upset the Being:Creature ratio.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: bill on October 26, 2007, 05:49:27 PM
It would also be kind of pointless imo
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
Fair enough.  I thought it had its charms from an 'immortality is a curse' point of view, in particular Dan's musings in 310, but yeah, among other things it would upset the Being:Creature ratio.

If this was the case, odds are Albanion could just make Jyrras live a really long time without attaching any creature traits to it to begin with.  And really, there are a few other creature-races that would be better suited to an "oh noes! Cursed!".  Like Were. Or Undead. Or Mer. Or Human.  Personally it feels more like people are just Cubi-Crazy and try to wriggle them into every aspect they can.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 26, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
So, Jyrras is cursed with having a bangle on his wrist, that warms anybody and everybody to -not- kill him, as he's already been claimed as a target by a Fae?
And, as it turns out, the Fae is only doing this at the bequest of a personal friend of said Jyrras, in exchange for a soul for his child, and is in all likelihood not actually harboring a grudge at all?

How dreadful...
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:58:20 PM

If this was the case, odds are Albanion could just make Jyrras live a really long time without attaching any creature traits to it to begin with.  And really, there are a few other creature-races that would be better suited to an "oh noes! Cursed!".  Like Were. Or Undead. Or Mer. Or Human.  Personally it feels more like people are just Cubi-Crazy and try to wriggle them into every aspect they can.

*Charles nods!*  That's cuz Cubi are the shmexy!  Like Fa'lina... teh hotness! 

*Charline giggles from the shadows*  Hee hee, poor Fa'lina.  She has to deal with a pathetic human's infatuation!  :giggle

*Charles continues*  Or... Charline!  Yes, as hard as it is to believe, I WANT her to murder me savagely every day!

*Charline*  :erk

*More insane rambling*  Death by her mighty jaws is better than life without the bliss of her fangs ripping me to bits!

*Charline*   :eek

*absolute lunacy!*  And every slash of her razor-sharp claws shedding my internal organs is a testament to our LOVE!!

*Charline*   D:  I've created a monster!! 

(Brought to you by isoflurane and paraformaldehyde.  When a biologist just isn't crazy enough, have him dissect something.  And further note, fume hoods don't ventilate fast enough.  X_x )
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: terrycloth on October 26, 2007, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:58:20 PMAnd really, there are a few other creature-races that would be better suited to an "oh noes! Cursed!".  Like Were. Or Undead.

Aha! He infected Jyrras so that when he dies, he'll turn into an undead. Then no one will want to hug him, and he'll understand how he made Nutmeg feel! >:3
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: AnizInDisguise on October 26, 2007, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: Alondro on October 26, 2007, 10:14:25 AM
*Charline laughs!*  See?  I told you the Fae were eviler than us Cubi!  Sure one of us is planning to destroy the dragon race, and sure we eat Beings souls whenever we feel like it, but at least we're not playing games behind our friends' backs and manipulating them to go along with our evil plans.

See, we ASK if the Beings want to be part of our plans... and outright kill them when they refuse.  Much nicer!   >:3

Indeed!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Madd the Sane on October 26, 2007, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 26, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
So, Jyrras is cursed with having a bangle on his wrist, that warms anybody and everybody to -not- kill him, as he's already been claimed as a target by a Fae?
And, as it turns out, the Fae is only doing this at the bequest of a personal friend of said Jyrras, in exchange for a soul for his child, and is in all likelihood not actually harboring a grudge at all?

How dreadful...
Your sarcasm has been noted.  I personally am of the opinion that Mab sees that Jyrras is probably a target of a Demon (As to what kind of target...), and as such had Albanon curse him for his own "protection." 
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: AnizInDisguise on October 26, 2007, 11:44:47 PM
Or, maybe this is all another dream Jyrras is having!  :U

Yeah I know that's not gonna be it, but I just had the urge to say it.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 27, 2007, 12:20:44 AM
Mab's Evil hmmmmmmmmmm i'm leaning that she is a card carrying member of the Legion of Doom fan club. But to plan this from the begining is downright psycho. But there's is a reason for the maddness in Mab's mind or which I called her Sybill in any case I think what she is doing is to protect Jy-Jy from something happening to him in the near future. If the Fae has that ability to see ahead in the future as of Falina case I think there will be something that will hurt Jy-Jy or kill him. That's how I see it at this point. I will wait further reading if this is coming the way as it is at this point.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: kaskar on October 27, 2007, 01:58:27 AM
    8)  This whole chapter seems to be a carefully planned, premeditated attack on Jyrras, by Mab herself, with external help from other Fae ...  ( And what will come of Jy ? )
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on October 27, 2007, 08:16:09 AM
Quote from: terrycloth on October 26, 2007, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:58:20 PMAnd really, there are a few other creature-races that would be better suited to an "oh noes! Cursed!".  Like Were. Or Undead.

Aha! He infected Jyrras so that when he dies, he'll turn into an undead. Then no one will want to hug him, and he'll understand how he made Nutmeg feel! >:3

WHAT????? this is totally Out of Character for Mabs...

Look, She can see that Jyrras has been down for awhile after his talk with Dan, the Wildy's book deal and avoiding Lorenda.  So she decides to take him on an adventure, and finds out about her parents.  She could have just cooked this scheme up with Albanion, when she found out that her Mother and Dad were dying.  She did run ahead to the Fae Kingdom and get her spear.  And  started this whole thing to cheer up Jyrras.  The old family friend thing could have been decided centuries ago.

Sooooooooo
Did Nutmeg know who the old family friends was?
Will Jyrras be happy with whatever Mab and her Fae friends cook up for him?

Will Rose be damaged for life after Jyrras' life storytelling?

Will Lorenda ever find a Stud that her mother would be tempted to eat?

And Where is Wildy?   And Will she ever tell Jy Jy of her love for him?

PBH

ALL these questions are base on nothing
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Toric on October 28, 2007, 03:03:45 AM
I just read the comic.



I think I actually heard a gear in my head snap in two.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Naldru on October 28, 2007, 08:06:21 AM
You might also want to worry about whether Mab has any schemes going involving the other residents of Lost Lake.  After all, she does know Fa'lina (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php).  Could the trip to SAIA also have involved some plans.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: DMFA! on October 28, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Wait, so Albanion and Mab planned for Jyrass to get cursed?? And I thought it was Mab's mother whose soul was going to be kept?? -------------> http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php
  :erk *confusion*
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: zaehlas on October 28, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
Yes, Amber blindsided us, wow.   However, I'm thinking more and more about Mab, and I think we might wanna think closer to home.  She's a FAE.

Phase 1,  Mab's parents let Mab know they are planning to pass on.  Mab contacts Albanion (and Nutmeg) to set everything up.
Phase 2,  Big meeting in front of everyone to drag Jyrras and Matilda to Fae plane.
Phase 3,  The curse and the deal.
Phase 4, ???

Anyway, VERY doubtful Jyrras is cursed to be a Cubi.  That gag already used (without the curse) on Dan, and would be too blase.  Besides, alot of Cubi showing up.  My belief is that Mab has been worried about Jyrras and his relationship stuff, and the trip to the Fae plane is to get the relationship stuff out in the open, and the curse is going to fix his relationship issues once and for all.

Personally, if I found that a longstanding "evil plot" and external influences, *of a Fae nature* fixed all MY relationship problems, I would be "unhappy" too.  For a while, anyway.   You get over these things.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Aleolus on October 28, 2007, 11:17:24 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2007, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 26, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
Fair enough.  I thought it had its charms from an 'immortality is a curse' point of view, in particular Dan's musings in 310, but yeah, among other things it would upset the Being:Creature ratio.

If this was the case, odds are Albanion could just make Jyrras live a really long time without attaching any creature traits to it to begin with.  And really, there are a few other creature-races that would be better suited to an "oh noes! Cursed!".  Like Were. Or Undead. Or Mer. Or Human.  Personally it feels more like people are just Cubi-Crazy and try to wriggle them into every aspect they can.
Notice how Amber is specifically avoiding telling us what is going to happen when the 'curse' on Jy is activated, or anything else on this topic?
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Naldru on October 28, 2007, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: DMFA! on October 28, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Wait, so Albanion and Mab planned for Jyrass to get cursed?? And I thought it was Mab's mother whose soul was going to be kept?? -------------> http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php
  :erk *confusion*
I suspect the act of becoming incorporeal and the act of passing the soul on to the new recipient are two several events.  So she probably had parting moments with both parents and will then have moments where each parent is passed on.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Ted Schiller on October 28, 2007, 01:01:59 PM
Quote from: DMFA! on October 28, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Wait, so Albanion and Mab planned for Jyrass to get cursed?? And I thought it was Mab's mother whose soul was going to be kept?? -------------> http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php
  :erk *confusion*

I'll concede him, her, whoever this may be cannot necessarily be trusted, but...

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_786.php

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Ted Schiller on October 28, 2007, 01:12:36 PM
Queen Nutmeg could have known the soul of Mab's father would go to a family friend, but not know her husband was the family friend.  That makes sense,... therefore it must be wrong.   :mowdizzy

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: LoneHowler on October 28, 2007, 02:50:57 PM
Lookie who's on the creature consul when they were discussing what to do with Jyrres's technology
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_365.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php
there might be much more going on here than we realize
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: DMFA! on October 28, 2007, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on October 28, 2007, 01:01:59 PM
Quote from: DMFA! on October 28, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Wait, so Albanion and Mab planned for Jyrass to get cursed?? And I thought it was Mab's mother whose soul was going to be kept?? -------------> http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php
  :erk *confusion*

I'll concede him, her, whoever this may be cannot necessarily be trusted, but...

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_786.php

With regards,
Ted


Oh! I see now! Thanks!
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Rika Banpaia on October 28, 2007, 10:31:16 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php)

comic 366, the second panel looks A LOT like Albanion, so thats how Mab knows the creature council wants Jyrass, thus she bribed Albanion with the soul of her father so he would "curse" Jyrass, which is really Mabs way of protecting Jyrass..........I think i just confused myself :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 28, 2007, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rika Banpaia on October 28, 2007, 10:31:16 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php)

comic 366, the second panel looks A LOT like Albanion, so thats how Mab knows the creature council wants Jyrass, thus she bribed Albanion with the soul of her father so he would "curse" Jyrass, which is really Mabs way of protecting Jyrass..........I think i just confused myself :mowdizzy

Amber has confirmed that the fae in the shadow is indeed Albanion. I don't remember where she said that, though. Ask llearch or Tapewolf, if anyone remembers which thread it was, it's them.

Oh, and welcome to the forums.
Title: Re: 10/26/07 [DMFA #836] - Love being the bad guy
Post by: Naldru on October 28, 2007, 10:50:17 PM
If one assumes that cubi aren't the only ones who can hear thoughts, there may be some justification to the deceptions carried out by Mab.  There is a saying about security that you can't be forced to reveal what you don't know.  On this basis, Mab would have had a reason for arranging the meeting between Jyrras and Abel so that Abel could provide Jyrras with a mind shield (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_607.php).