but wait, what is ascension anyways?

[inuhanyo]

If you are willing to risk getting lost in the maze of fascinating information that is TVTropes, here is their article on Immortality.  They identify ten different types, including "the author won't kill the character off".

[Anker Steadfast]

...Go fish.

I fished..................didn't find any immmortality though, maybe I need better bait.....

I hear virgins, princesses or even virgin princesses are good bait.

It's totally discrimination against the boys Princes though, but I guess villains don't worry about that.

[iceick]

it's likely that removing their soul is one of the only ways to be sure to kill them.

I'm pretty sure that'll work for any type of living/sentient creature.

I think that's what DP was trying to do to Mab. If there was ever a way to kill a Fae, taking their soul and sacrificing it to a god might be it.

[Drayco84]

Yes, especially considering that virgin males are easier to find... (*Sob, weep, sob.*) I mean, not that -I- know anything about that...

Anyway, I just had a thought... What if all ascension to Tri-Wing or leader status really needs is a portion of the individual clan members' power? Then, once they're ascended, the leader can return that some of that power to their clan members. Or, perhaps it's more of a hive-based magic storage. Since not all the cubi are using their magic at the same time, some of it gets "collected" by the Tri-Wing who then redirects it to a cubi that needs it.

Now, while this doesn't look like it explains Fa'Lina's situation, remember that she has only ever used teleport spells, and rarely at that. (Which can be easily handled by a warp-aci.)

However, what really bugs me is the fact that all those cubi in the academy feed off each others' emotions when the law of diminishing returns states that-*KRA-KA-KOW!* OHMIGOD!!! I'VE JUST KILLED A CATGIRL!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! *Drags the poor girl off before some wierdo with a necronomicon shows up...*

[iceick]

Yes, especially considering that virgin males are easier to find... (*Sob, weep, sob.*) I mean, not that -I- know anything about that...

I don't think virginity had anything to do with that ritual after all DP was planning on using Azlan and Azlan is married.

[Tapewolf]

I think that's what DP was trying to do to Mab. If there was ever a way to kill a Fae, taking their soul and sacrificing it to a god might be it.

Fae don't have souls in the conventional sense, though.

[Keleth]

I think that's what DP was trying to do to Mab. If there was ever a way to kill a Fae, taking their soul and sacrificing it to a god might be it.

Fae don't have souls in the conventional sense, though.

You're right. They're just magical objects. Kinda like golems.

So it's totally fine to murder/maim a fae if you have acquired the means to do so. As they don't have souls.

[Anker Steadfast]

I think that's what DP was trying to do to Mab. If there was ever a way to kill a Fae, taking their soul and sacrificing it to a god might be it.

Fae don't have souls in the conventional sense, though.

You're right. They're just magical objects. Kinda like golems.

So it's totally fine to murder/maim a fae if you have acquired the means to do so. As they don't have souls.

They do have a lot of power though, that might make them a target, even if they don't have a soul.

[Keleth]

So you're saying Fae are just giant energy beings?

Time to pull a titan AE and use em to run my car engine

[Les]

Fae don't have souls in the conventional sense, though.

They don't?  Didn't a significant portion of one story-arc revolve specifically around Fae souls?   

[Mrs_A_ZeTavia]

So you're saying Fae are just giant energy beings?

Time to pull a titan AE and use em to run my car engine

Why stop at your car engine?! We can do planes, other cars, etc!! 

Congratulations World, we have solved our fuel problem!! 

[jeffh4]

Robot Chicken did a funny/creepy bit on immortality. Seriously paraphrased here. 

First the bad guy laughed at the hero: "Ha, ha, you'll never defeat me! I am immortal! I'll just keep coming back and. . ."  Bad guy reduced to ash by flame weapon.  Hero takes ash and snorts it.  Long sequence of hero going poop. Longer sequence of poop flowing through sewage pipes. OK, guys, we get the picture. 

Then there's the nightmare scenario of immortality as shown in the movie "The Hunger" and "What If" (with Ghost Rider) comics. You are immortal, but your body ages until you can't move or even breath. You're just a spirit inhabiting an immobile corpse.

Moral of the story.  If you want to be immortal, you'd better make sure your body stays functional and in one piece.

[LionHeart]

Yes, especially considering that virgin males are easier to find... (*Sob, weep, sob.*) I mean, not that -I- know anything about that...

No such thing as a virgin male. Everybody knows that men aren't virgins. And they especially don't get to be my age, and have to deal with that damn movie...

[Anker Steadfast]

So you're saying Fae are just giant energy beings?

Time to pull a titan AE and use em to run my car engine

Why stop at your car engine?! We can do planes, other cars, etc!! 

Congratulations World, we have solved our fuel problem!! 

Well, yeah ... it's possible - But ...

When was the last time you refueled on Fae ?
Do you have any idea what it does to a car ?
I'm teling you, first the fuel fought back, that was bad enough and caused a lot of commotion at the service station!
And then, then it had a baby and made me a King of the Fae Kingdom !!!

Be really, REALLY careful of your fuel!! 

[Drayco84]

So you're saying Fae are just giant energy beings?

Time to pull a titan AE and use em to run my car engine

Why stop at your car engine?! We can do planes, other cars, etc!! 

Congratulations World, we have solved our fuel problem!! 

Well, yeah ... it's possible - But ...

When was the last time you refueled on Fae ?
Do you have any idea what it does to a car ?
I'm teling you, first the fuel fought back, that was bad enough and caused a lot of commotion at the service station!
And then, then it had a baby and made me a King of the Fae Kingdom !!!

Be really, REALLY careful of your fuel!! 

Have you tried using them as an engine, much like Porky Pig did to Daffy Duck in the one Loony Tunes episode?

[Chakat Blackspots]

Yes, especially considering that virgin males are easier to find... (*Sob, weep, sob.*) I mean, not that -I- know anything about that...

No such thing as a virgin male. Everybody knows that men aren't virgins. And they especially don't get to be my age, and have to deal with that damn movie...

I'm definitely a virgin, and have no intention of seeing that movie (I'm 33)

[Mrs_A_ZeTavia]

So you're saying Fae are just giant energy beings?

Time to pull a titan AE and use em to run my car engine

Why stop at your car engine?! We can do planes, other cars, etc!! 

Congratulations World, we have solved our fuel problem!! 

Well, yeah ... it's possible - But ...

When was the last time you refueled on Fae ?
Do you have any idea what it does to a car ?
I'm teling you, first the fuel fought back, that was bad enough and caused a lot of commotion at the service station!
And then, then it had a baby and made me a King of the Fae Kingdom !!!

Be really, REALLY careful of your fuel!! 

Have you tried using them as an engine, much like Porky Pig did to Daffy Duck in the one Loony Tunes episode?

Ah yes, poor Daffy.... who do think is powering my car right now.........sadly his warrenty is up and I'm looking for other options! 

[Turnsky]

Theoretically, the Fae would be on a proverbial cycle of reincarnation than anything else. The difference being is that they choose when to go on that cycle again.

[iceick]

But there's still the fact that as far as been told, the only way a fae has ever died was through their own will. But what DP was trying to do was to kill a fae and trandcinding their soul, magical energie, or whatever you want to call it to the dark god.

[Tapewolf]

But there's still the fact that as far as been told, the only way a fae has ever died was through their own will. But what DP was trying to do was to kill a fae and trandcinding their soul, magical energie, or whatever you want to call it to the dark god.

The more we learn about the Fae the less I believe that Dark Pegasus knew what he was doing there.  For all we know the Dark God is a figment of his imagination.

[Keleth]

Could also be that the dark god is a real creature. But more in the fashion of Warhammer 40,000 Chaos gods.

Which dine on delicious delicious souls and the negative feelings of all of creation.

And no, they aren't giant Cubi.

[Mrs_A_ZeTavia]

I've contemplated this for awhile and figured I'd ask everyone here to put in their two cents or answers if they have any:

Now as far as we know or have speculated, if and when a tri-winged clan leader dies or something else occurs, we know that another in that clan can rise to tri-wing status, but does that necessarily make them the new leader? If so, does the name of the clan remain the same or is it named after the new leader? What if it has a first and last name, which one would be used or can it be called whatever the new clan leader decides?

Now keep in mind I know this was case with Seme and Divallis, but is that the case all the time? (The question that was here has been resolved!  )

What do you all think?  

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

If you're paying attention, Amber has said that there can be more than one tri-wing in a clan, although it's unusual.

[Mrs_A_ZeTavia]

If you're paying attention, Amber has said that there can be more than one tri-wing in a clan, although it's unusual.

Sometimes I miss stuff.....................my bad *facepalms*

[AmigaDragon]

I'm definitely a virgin, and have no intention of seeing that movie (I'm 33)

Ditto... +14

[Kirishala]

They do have a lot of power though, that might make them a target, even if they don't have a soul.

They aren't bound by linear time or space which makes attacking one kinda difficult unless they let you, and I suspect that trying to steal a fae's soul is one of the few things that will cause them to break character and use their true powers.

[Anker Steadfast]

They do have a lot of power though, that might make them a target, even if they don't have a soul.

They aren't bound by linear time or space which makes attacking one kinda difficult unless they let you, and I suspect that trying to steal a fae's soul is one of the few things that will cause them to break character and use their true powers.

True enough, however, any creature/being that is powerful enough to even consider attacking a Fae, will probably already have considered how to handle those difficulties. Just because something is difficult, doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible.

Though I suspect that there are very few creatures/beings that are able to fight a Fae.

[Les]

Though I suspect that there are very few creatures/beings that are able to fight a Fae.

Which is probably why those 'bracelets' are so darned effective.   

[Anker Steadfast]

Darn right .. also, they rock at techno raves.

[Drayco84]

They do have a lot of power though, that might make them a target, even if they don't have a soul.

They aren't bound by linear time or space which makes attacking one kinda difficult unless they let you, and I suspect that trying to steal a fae's soul is one of the few things that will cause them to break character and use their true powers.

True enough, however, any creature/being that is powerful enough to even consider attacking a Fae, will probably already have considered how to handle those difficulties. Just because something is difficult, doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible.

Though I suspect that there are very few creatures/beings that are able to fight a Fae.

Or they could just be really, really stupid... Seriously, it never seems to stop adventurers from picking fights with creatures far older and more powerful than they are... (Hey, the creatures' gotta eat!)