02/22/09 [DMFA #976] - All the best family photos can double as a lineup.

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Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.

I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
Of course, you know that if Regina dies messily, we will go back to 'We want to see Regina!", only to go back once she makes another appearance.  :)

Pagan

Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.

I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"

What can I say? I liked her because I thought she might give us some blood, being a psychopath. And now her blood might just spill. That's fine enough for me.
After a long time, some things change. Some things don't. And I still love Regina!

Naldru

Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side.  A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it.  Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
She already has, they just doesn't know it.  See strip 229.

Has anybody considered the possibility that their guide might have been the monster carrying out the multiple murders.
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inuhanyo

Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.

I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"

What can I say? I liked her because I thought she might give us some blood, being a psychopath. And now her blood might just spill. That's fine enough for me.

I was expecting drama, and I haven't been disappointed.  I didn't expect them to immediately go to straight out attacking though, and  I hadn't expected Regina to be afraid to face Dan without a weapon.  I didn't believe she knew he was a Cubi, so that was no surprise.  I have been enjoying the inversion of the monster-chases-damsel tropes though.

Jairus

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:59:28 PM
I was expecting drama, and I haven't been disappointed.  I didn't expect them to immediately go to straight out attacking though, and  I hadn't expected Regina to be afraid to face Dan without a weapon.  I didn't believe she knew he was a Cubi, so that was no surprise.  I have been enjoying the inversion of the monster-chases-damsel tropes though.
While Regina is a monster, it's really annoying that people keep mistaking Dan for a woman... oh! I get it. You mean that the damsel is the real monster and the "monster" chasing her is the hero. Okay, my mistake.
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GabrielsThoughts

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 01:34:53 AM
Ah, Lorenda is back.  And Kria doesn't know about the old connection between Regina and Dan.

technically we don't even know the connections between dan and regina
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Pagan

We've got a good idea. She murdered twelve beings by manipulating his trust and she almost killed Wildy somehow as well. She also vowed to destroy him and all he loves. Oh, and she just hit him with a tray full of wine glasses. But he is taking it all rather personally. Sheesh.
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llearch n'n'daCorna

Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"

Perhaps you just didn't give them a chance to complete the sentence, last time around? ;-]
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Michael Chandra

Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side.  A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it.  Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.

Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree.
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?

inuhanyo

Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side.  A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it.  Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.

Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree.
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?
As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother.  Abel was part of her community, and thus not prey.  I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.

As far as Dan knows, Kria hasn't done anything to put herself on his Hit List.  Regina put herself on that list six years ago, with a bullet.  DP got on the list even earlier.  I expect the list is pretty short, by now.

AmigaDragon

Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side.  A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it.  Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.

Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree.
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?

We don't know that Kria did or didn't kill anyone in that incident, but it can be assumed from the following dialog that she did but stopped when she noticed Abel. I get the impression that she was on something like a school field trip

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 11:19:25 PM

As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother.  Abel was part of her community, and thus not prey.  I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.

Before his headwings popped, she might have suspected his 'cubi heritage. After, I'm sure she knew, since as far as we've seen only cubi have them.
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inuhanyo

Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 22, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
We don't know that Kria did or didn't kill anyone in that incident, but it can be assumed from the following dialog that she did but stopped when she noticed Abel. I get the impression that she was on something like a school field trip

"... after failing to take out a single target this entire venture."   Sounds like Kria didn't kill anyone that time.  We don't know who Kria was speaking with, the default assumption is her brother Aliph, simply because we don't know of any other candidates.  For her, it was something of a training mission.  Combat training.

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Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother.  Abel was part of her community, and thus not prey.  I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.

Before his headwings popped, she might have suspected his 'cubi heritage. After, I'm sure she knew, since as far as we've seen only cubi have them.
Abel's headwings poped out during that incident, the question is did Kria notice them and understand their significance?

Tyranastrasz

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Abel's headwings poped out during that incident, the question is did Kria notice them and understand their significance?

Considering Kria gave Abel a charm to hide his headwings, I assume she noticed them. Also, it's not like they aren't rather large and sticking out of the top of his head and whatnot. They're fairly obvious.

inuhanyo

Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 23, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Abel's headwings popped out during that incident, the question is did Kira notice them and understand their significance?

Considering Kira gave Abel a charm to hide his headwings, I assume she noticed them. Also, it's not like they aren't rather large and sticking out of the top of his head and whatnot. They're fairly obvious.

The charm hid all of his wings (it's a generic Creature to Being transform).  Kira uses it to hide hers, she loaned it to Able so he could get home without being shot by any of the adventurer teams patrolling the area.  The same reason Devin insisted on escorting Abel before Abel's headwings popped.

Abel's headwing are the same spotted color pattern as his backwings and head, not quite so obvious under the circumstances.  But even if Kira did notice them, did she understand their significance at the time?  Cubi appear to be not so well known.   Devin didn't know what they were, or what they meant, at the time.

jeffh4

Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward.  It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is

***GASP***

lying to her daughter!  I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do!  :rolleyes

AmigaDragon

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 01:09:17 AM
The charm hid all of his wings (it's a generic Creature to Being transform).  Kira uses it to hide hers, she loaned it to Able so he could get home without being shot by any of the adventurer teams patrolling the area.  The same reason Devin insisted on escorting Abel before Abel's headwings popped.

Abel's headwing are the same spotted color pattern as his backwings and head, not quite so obvious under the circumstances.  But even if Kira did notice them, did she understand their significance at the time?  Cubi appear to be not so well known.   Devin didn't know what they were, or what they meant, at the time.

Even if cubi aren't so well known (differentiated from angels, demons or just winged beings) to the general being population, they would be known (recognized, whatever) to the creature population.

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Tapewolf

Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward.  It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is

***GASP***

lying to her daughter!

I think she knows that Regina went on a spree which by the looked of it, she had to pay for or was otherwise responsible for (because Regina was a minor at the time and she was her guardian?) or whatever.

However, it doesn't follow that she knows Dan was involved, and even if she did, he would probably have been 'just another Being'.

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llearch n'n'daCorna

Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward.  It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is

***GASP***

lying to her daughter!  I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do!  :rolleyes

It might also be because everyone she's spoken to about it already knows why it's awkward, and hence doesn't need it explaining.
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Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 23, 2009, 04:14:46 AM
Even if cubi aren't so well known (differentiated from angels, demons or just winged beings) to the general being population, they would be known (recognized, whatever) to the creature population.

Especially to a member of what appears to be a fairly prominent demon family such as the Soulstealers.

meany

Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 04:20:25 PM
We've got a good idea. She murdered twelve beings by manipulating his trust and she almost killed Wildy somehow as well. She also vowed to destroy him and all he loves. Oh, and she just hit him with a tray full of wine glasses. But he is taking it all rather personally. Sheesh.

If my memory serves, and if no one else has mentioned it, she also hit on Dan http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php here, possibly while killing those twelve beings or attempting to kill Wildy.

AmigaDragon

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Ted Schiller

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 23, 2009, 05:51:34 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward.  It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is

***GASP***

lying to her daughter!  I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do!  :rolleyes

It might also be because everyone she's spoken to about it already knows why it's awkward, and hence doesn't need it explaining.

As we dance to the exposition tango.   :boogie

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mopman

I dont want Regina to die  :mowsad

I know there is no defence , but she simply is too ignorant/young to gice up on that completly , I think justice would be better served if she could be forced to pay for her crimes by helping those she has hurt.
Besides , I think she would hate that  lot more than simply dying.
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Aleolus

I'm wondering what got the connection between Kria and Dan started to begin with.  Were they childhood companions who turned away from each other, or what?

Pagan

Quote from: mopman on February 26, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
I dont want Regina to die  :mowsad

I know there is no defence , but she simply is too ignorant/young to gice up on that completly , I think justice would be better served if she could be forced to pay for her crimes by helping those she has hurt.
Besides , I think she would hate that  lot more than simply dying.

No, no, she quite deserves to die. Even as a fan-boy of hers I can see that. She's a murderer. She killed twelve people. She shows no sign of remorse. She would gleefully murder again. She would gleefully mass-murder again. Behead her, hang her, electrocute her, put her before a firing range, or just stab a tentacle through her heart; it doesn't matter what method, but the girl has got to go.
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Tapewolf

Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.

A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she has read the Janus Bond book.  While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).

There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me.  Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action.  Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).

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Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.

A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she has read the Janus Bond book.  While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).

There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me.  Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action.  Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).

Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book? He doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".
Someday, when we look back on this, we'll both laugh nervously and change the subject. More is good. All is better.

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Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.

A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she has read the Janus Bond book.  While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).

There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me.  Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action.  Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).

Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book? He doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".
But the book does show up in-universe later. And that's what Tape is worried about. Hm... that could be a problem later. Or people could cross it off as a work of fiction.
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Tapewolf

Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book?
He read the draft in 478.  It seems likely that Wildy would have sent him a proof, as she did to Jyrras (which was subsequently intercepted by Lorenda).

QuoteHe doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".

See Jay's reply.
EDIT:
Also, the book included the 'Cursed Amethysts' line, so I imagine the strip version is fairly close to what happened in the book.

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