12/05/08 [Abel 2 #16] - Must you do this?

[Royden]

Hm... Honestly this made me remember as to I am curious what his lans are. We have the theories that he's making his own clan, but I don't know... 75 years wouldn't affect someone that long lived in that area I don't think, and apparently whatever he's trying is a repeat of what has been tried before.

Only three? Call me impressed. The last one who tried this had three on the way when I shut him down.

-Fa'lina mocking Aniz when he asked her what seventy five years will do to his plans. Ables Story Part II Page 14

As this could be founding of a new clan... with that page and her asking if he has to do this... makes me wonder if he's trying something bigger.



...Or I could be batting one heck of a foul ball in my random thoughts...

[Rithm Alfortele]

Aniz's face in the second panel is awesome; hasn't anyone else noticed?

It's kinda like a deer in the headlights; except with less spaziness.

His vocal mistake just cost him another two-hundred years.  He just realized he's screwed and there's no way to possible fix this mistake.

The next panel... is depressive acceptance.

Amber, how do you manage to make all of your characters so deep?

[!KCA]

Amber, how do you manage to make all of your characters so deep?

She hands them a pick and shovel and tells them to start digging.


Honestly, though, we have no idea what's going on. If Amber twists the plot any more, people's heads are going to start popping off.

Keep an umbrella handy.

[AmigaDragon]

I seriously doubt Edward is Aniz. As was suggested before, I think Dee would be able to tell a being from a cubi.

Another idea though, can cubi have non-cubi offspring? Could Edward be Aniz's son? That would make Uncle Abel Dan's current tutor.
If cubi can have non-cubi offspring, will the next generation with beings always be beings (Alexsi) or can some cubi genes sometimes slip through?

(was that enough over-analysis?)

[Valynth]

Amber, how do you manage to make all of your characters so deep?

Honestly, though, we have no idea what's going on. If Amber twists the plot any more, people's heads are going to start popping off.

Keep an umbrella handy.

*wears a poncho*
Much better than an umbrella.

Anyway, I think this is a rare sign of exhaustion on Fa'lina's part.  It sounds a bit like she's tired of Aniz's antics, not necessarily because it's Aniz, but because she's seen the same type of moves and can see disaster on the horizon for Aniz, but feels that he'll still run straight into it regardless of what she does.  In short, the question seems like a last hail-mary attempt to get Aniz to change, perhaps because Fa'lina still feels the need to try and protect 'Cubi despite their obvious stupidity.

[Victoire Épique]

Amber's ability in drawing facial expressions that show emotion has really skyrocketed lately, in my opinion.


According to his character sheet, Abel's almost 400 now. So that would mean Aniz should have been able to return to SAIA almost a century ago.
It's also mentioned that he's part of a widespread and almost extinct clan.
Based on what I've seen so far in Abel's story...
Abel and Aniz are evidently from the same clan, as they have the same marking.
I think either Aniz was trying to either form his own clan or rebuild it.
Personally, I believe he's trying to rebuild it, considering how he mentioned that Abel 'looks just like them'.
I could very easily be wrong. With the amount of twists going on...
I can see why Abel was upset when he won that wallpaper war. xP

...I also think Fa'lina needs some of May's cookies.

[Fex]

If Aniz is in danger he should call Chuck Noris becouse no one is stronger then him

[Tapewolf]

I seriously doubt Edward is Aniz. As was suggested before, I think Dee would be able to tell a being from a cubi.

I don't doubt.  But it might take a few minutes.

Take note of the timeline. When will Aniz get back to SAIA?

It's about -375 at the moment.  If Aniz starts in 250 years and the child is ready to attend in 25 years it will be a century prior to present-day, by my reckoning or 75 years prior, if Aniz leaves a round 300 years.

[Brunhidden]

If Aniz is in danger he should call Chuck Noris becouse no one is stronger then him

well there is the 'ultimate showdown' option, which handles chuck quite efficently

[Ren Gaulen]

If Aniz is in danger he should call Chuck Noris becouse no one is stronger then him

*ker-Morbo* CHUCK NORRIS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!! */ker-Morbo*

well there is the 'ultimate showdown' option, which handles chuck quite efficently

Or one could summon Sean Connery. He seemed to be quite capable of beating Chuck Norris in "Oblivion".

[Caswin]

Fa'lina's Expression made my heart hurt 

For a moment, I thought you said "head", and was quoting this to agree with you.

She does look sad and beautiful.  Which does not compute.  Even though I'm already starting to like her in spite of myself, and all the more with the beginning of this page.

[Psaakyrn]

Fa'lina looks so beautiful and sad in that last panel ;-;

Indeed.  Very much so.

This does give me hope that Aniz - who does actually seem to be capable of learning - will have got his act together in the intervening three centuries.

*lightbulb* Wait, after 3 centuries, Abel will be 325(ish)...he's near 400 now, so does he have a half-sibling somewhere in the Academy?

I bet this has already been answered XD

I'm still half expecting Pyroduck to be said sibling...

[Naldru]

If Pyroduck is Abel's half-brother, that would mean that Aniz had some really hot dates.  (Assuming that dragons in DMFA can breath fire.)  In such a relationship, Aniz would certainly have trouble throwing his weight around.

[SpottedKitty]

This does give me hope that Aniz - who does actually seem to be capable of learning - will have got his act together in the intervening three centuries.

Assuming, of course, his foot-in-mouth disease doesn't flare up again, causing someone to get his attention with a half-brick bounced off his pointy little head and drop him into the nearest volcano (with or without fifty million orange pillows)...

And now I think I'll spend the next few months working out the connection between the statements "must you do this?" and "he looks just like them" — assuming Aniz is trying to rebuild his clan, is there something in the past to explain why that clan was driven to near-extinction? A reason Fa'lina can't disagree with? Although she knows Aniz will keep trying regardless? <assumes Thinker pose>

[Tapewolf]

And now I think I'll spend the next few months working out the connection between the statements "must you do this?" and "he looks just like them" — assuming Aniz is trying to rebuild his clan, is there something in the past to explain why that clan was driven to near-extinction? A reason Fa'lina can't disagree with? Although she knows Aniz will keep trying regardless?

One possibility is that she is simply referring to him driving his own son insane, though I rather doubt it now.  It does look more like that was simply incompetence than malice.
I would tend to agree with your analysis that he's trying to rebuild his clan and that he will somehow be disappointed by the results.

[KarlOmega1]

Personally, when Fa'lina said "Must you do this?"....I think she was pointing out how much trouble Aniz keeps getting in. Also, I think she possibly cares for him...of course that's just my speculation...

[Stig Hemmer]

Anyway, I think this is a rare sign of exhaustion on Fa'lina's part.  It sounds a bit like she's tired of Aniz's antics, not necessarily because it's Aniz, but because she's seen the same type of moves and can see disaster on the horizon for Aniz, but feels that he'll still run straight into it regardless of what she does.

Indeed. Fa'lina is old.  She has seen dozens, if not hundreds of Anizes, almost as many Abels and whatever she does, they never, ever learn.  Anybody can get tired by that.

As for Abels possible half-sibling, I think Destania seems like a more logical choice than Edward.  I was about to add "or Aaryanna", but then I looked at her cast page. She is older than Abel. Destania, on the other hand... has no cast page.  Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?

[Psaakyrn]

Except that a) Destinia is already of a seperate clan, b) Abel should know if that's the case, and there's no hint of such, c) Destinina should know if that's the case, and there's no hint of such, d) cast pages are subject to change anyway (see example: Pyroduck's cast page update of family relations to include Fa'lina, and e) there is -- **gets kidnapped  and mind-wiped**

[Naldru]

As for Abels possible half-sibling, I think Destania seems like a more logical choice than Edward.  I was about to add "or Aaryanna", but then I looked at her cast page. She is older than Abel. Destania, on the other hand... has no cast page.  Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?

Since Destania was Aaryanna's teacher, that would suggest that Destania is older than Aaryanna.

[techmaster-glitch]

As for Abels possible half-sibling, I think Destania seems like a more logical choice than Edward.  I was about to add "or Aaryanna", but then I looked at her cast page. She is older than Abel. Destania, on the other hand... has no cast page.  Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?

Since Destania was Aaryanna's teacher, that would suggest that Destania is older than Aaryanna.

Also that Destania has been confirmed to be at least seven-thousand years old. Can't remember where Amber said it, but she did. Ask Tapewolf or llearch, they will probably be able to find something on it.

[Tapewolf]

Also that Destania has been confirmed to be at least seven-thousand years old. Can't remember where Amber said it, but she did. Ask Tapewolf or llearch, they will probably be able to find something on it.

It took a while:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,1676.msg67227.html#msg67227

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I would have thought it'd be linked as a citation in the wiki?

http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Destania_Ti%27Fiona

(although I note you just added it)

[Tapewolf]

I would have thought it'd be linked as a citation in the wiki?

It should have been, although it's likely that I or whoever added the info originally didn't know best how to handle citations inside the character profile.  In this case I turned the age into a hyperlink.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

... cite it in the text. :-P

[Brunhidden]

with an age like that i somehow think that dest and fa would have a loooooong history with each other we may want to hear sometime

this also implies dest frequently used chowing down on souls to extend her life, and suggests that dan may someday meet his great great great great great great great grand niece/nephew cause thats a long time to only pop out one kid

[Tapewolf]

with an age like that i somehow think that dest and fa would have a loooooong history with each other we may want to hear sometime

We have an unconfirmed report that the Academy was formed 7000 years ago, which would make Dee one of the first students.

this also implies dest frequently used chowing down on souls to extend her life, and suggests that dan may someday meet his great great great great great great great grand niece/nephew cause thats a long time to only pop out one kid

If you're talking about Dee, I suspect that the prohibition against children extends to the staff as well.

As for chowing on souls, see also: http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,3297.msg142336.html#msg142336

...I think we can safely assume that she 'cleans up' after lessons 

[Psaakyrn]

with an age like that i somehow think that dest and fa would have a loooooong history with each other we may want to hear sometime

We have an unconfirmed report that the Academy was formed 7000 years ago, which would make Dee one of the first students.

this also implies dest frequently used chowing down on souls to extend her life, and suggests that dan may someday meet his great great great great great great great grand niece/nephew cause thats a long time to only pop out one kid

If you're talking about Dee, I suspect that the prohibition against children extends to the staff as well.

As for chowing on souls, see also: http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,3297.msg142336.html#msg142336

...I think we can safely assume that she 'cleans up' after lessons 

Or possibly first teachers... Nope, I'm wrong, first students it is.

[AmigaDragon]

First students can be first additional teachers (unless Fa'lina already had other cubi as teachers when she opened the academy)

[AmigaDragon]

I didn't notice anyone responding to my earlier question whether Aniz would tutor any further existing offspring in the next 76 - now 276 - years or if there's other options available until Fa'lina lets him enroll more. Are cubi expected - or even required - to get some kind of cubi schooling, whether Academy or homeschooling? Are there other schools available? What was it like before Fa'lina started the Academy?

[Psaakyrn]

I corrected myself because of http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_489.php which strongly implied that Destinia was enrolled as a student first.

http://missmab.com/Demo/cubi.php and http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php provides some information on SAIA and cubi education.