Another 'Enchanted' Disney film! Oh joy and turds!

[Zedd]

am I the only one who thinks Disney was trying to cut production cost's by animating the part of the film that takes place in the dark ages...because you know I suspect it would be more interesting if they filmed it on location with the men and women of Darkon.

Darkon!  ZOMG!!!  It's the Venomoids! 

PS:  For those not anime-obsessed, that's a "Technoman" or "Tekkaman" reference.   

"Teknoman" is how they spelled it, at least down here. I had no idea it was Japanese animation dubbed when I was a kid. It was almost the first anime I saw, not counting Sailor Moon. Or the first one I did see, thinking all anime was joy and light.

Akira put a stop to THAT~

I miss that series sooo much

[Zorro]

That's Really going to look like shit on a Burger King glass.   

[Brunhidden]

okay, i just saw a new commercial for it and i am stricken as to how they seem to go out of their way to make the characters of medium stupidity suddenly become three times as stupid upon going to the 'real world'.

im going to have to keep an eye out if this is due to the writers or the actors, too many movie studios think they can just pull people out of their ass and expect good work. whichever one is at fault, i feel bad for the other

[GabrielsThoughts]

I think the main reason why Diseny fails is its insistence of instilling moral lessons of socialism by showing the individual as an incompetent moron without the help of his "Joe average" sidekick,  while still taking advantage of capitalism and  reaping the all mighty dollar from parents of children to inexperienced to know better. This is why Disney movies are such turds.

and in the end the individual learns that in order to be accepted, all (s)he has to do was be himself...and behave  like "joe average."

[Vidar]

and in the end the individual learns that in order to be accepted, all (s)he has to do was be himself...and behave  like "joe average."

Which, for the more ... interesting people on the planet, is completely contradictory.

[Alondro]

Meh, who wants to be accepted by a bunch of losers.

This whole planet's full of losers!  They need to get beaten more often.

*Charles would be a villain*   

[LigerJet]

I can't wait for The Princess and the Frog.  It will be 2D, and it'll be the first movie completely made under Lassetter's reign, IIRC.

[Alondro]

I can't wait for The Princess and the Frog.  It will be 2D, and it'll be the first movie completely made under Lassetter's reign, IIRC.

*stomps on the frog*  The End!  Super villainy here I come!   

[Caswin]

I can't wait for The Princess and the Frog.  It will be 2D, and it'll be the first movie completely made under Lassetter's reign, IIRC.

And it'll have Keith "Goliath/Spawn" David as the villain.  Don't forget that.

[Alondro]

*dies*  The critics mostly like it... Disney has bought them all off, apparently.   

And naturally the early user reviews are glowing, but the first ones are always studio plants.  We'll see how it fares after a few thousand more reviews.

Unless they changed a whole lot from what I read about it and from the early previews, I'm going to have to go with my theory that Eisner spikes everyone's drinks with happy juice when they're going in to watch.

[superluser]

And naturally the early user reviews are glowing, but the first ones are always studio plants.

And fanbois.

[Brunhidden]

the job of a critic mostly seems to be a cross between 'i write what people want to read' and 'i write down what i think is fun to write'

so many of them scarcely seem to watch the movies even, and some you know are either paid to change their opinion or throw a dart for what kind of review to give

[Eibborn]

Oh ho wait, I've fallen for this one before. Since when are ads a good representation of a movie, anyway?

I reserve judgement until I've actually seen the thing, if ever.

[Brunhidden]

i think someone was making fun of that before, and recorded several of those voiceover ads for series that were so utterly unlike the series that you knew the person recording it did not even know what show they were doing.

i believe one of the ones in the list was the anime 'lost universe' and the announcer made it sound like a mel gibson post apocalyptic survival flick. for those of you unfamiliar with 'lost universe' it includes terrorists who wear chicken suits, to give you an idea

[Alondro]

i think someone was making fun of that before, and recorded several of those voiceover ads for series that were so utterly unlike the series that you knew the person recording it did not even know what show they were doing.

i believe one of the ones in the list was the anime 'lost universe' and the announcer made it sound like a mel gibson post apocalyptic survival flick. for those of you unfamiliar with 'lost universe' it includes terrorists who wear chicken suits, to give you an idea

Were they the same guys who were the Chicken Men of Krankor in "Prince of Space"?  The title character also seemed to show up again in "Invasion of the Neptune Men". 

MST3K memories.   

EDIT:  The movie... it-it may actually be good... Disney made something good all by itself even when it looked like it would be a poorly crafted rip off of two previous films... my god... the world IS coming to an end!   

[Naldru]

EDIT:  The movie... it-it may actually be good... Disney made something good all by itself even when it looked like it would be a poorly crafted rip off of two previous films... my god... the world IS coming to an end!  

I heard that they actually got some good people to come back in after Eisner left, or at least managers who knew enough to let the competent people make the decisions.  I've been pleasantly surprised by Disney before: Sky High was much better than I expected.

By the way, I'm not sure if Home on the Range was really the nadir, but it was close.

[GabrielsThoughts]

true, but Sky High had professionally trained actors, with known reputations, and a story that was attractive to the singles, comic book aficianatos, and more importantly the average American family. Sky High also had cameo's, and solid writing, that didn't insult the intelligence of it's intended audience.


Enchanted looks like a by the numbers "DURRRH" film that was written by Disney for a tweenage audience, but will seem brilliant to six year olds.It will insult the very basic laws of intelligence, and convince children that they will become stupider as they get older, instead of the other way around.   

[Alondro]

Well... most people actually do seem to get stupider as they get older these days.  I mean, look how many people still fall for the Nigerian scams.   

And when you get older, you start LIKING the Golf Channel and NASCAR!!

Disney may have a point... 

[bill]

And when you get older, you start LIKING the Golf Channel and NASCAR!!

[Vidar]

Since we are getting further awy from disney's latest turd-mongering:
Bill, where the hell did you get that quote in your sig? It's completely insane and stupid.

Also, I hope this thing will flop so badly, that Disney goes bankrupt, and then all the animators start up studios of their own, doing creative things that Disney would never allow (like making animation aimed at grown-ups, and not cranking out family-friendly drivel), and then become wildly successful. </rant>

[bill]

Since we are getting further awy from disney's latest turd-mongering:
Bill, where the hell did you get that quote in your sig? It's completely insane and stupid.

It was some computer game modding website that I used to go to. One of those "really useful, but don't go to the forums oh god" sites.

[Vidar]

Since we are getting further awy from disney's latest turd-mongering:
Bill, where the hell did you get that quote in your sig? It's completely insane and stupid.

It was some computer game modding website that I used to go to. One of those "really useful, but don't go to the forums oh god" sites.

Oh dear. I just found a whole site dedicated to that kind of nutjobbery. Fundies of any religion (mostly christian) arguing stupidly about everything. (some of them don't believe gravity really exists  )

Shall I make a seperate thread about it?

Oh what the heck, I'll share the pain.

[Naldru]

Since we are getting further awy from disney's latest turd-mongering:
Bill, where the hell did you get that quote in your sig? It's completely insane and stupid.

Also, I hope this thing will flop so badly, that Disney goes bankrupt, and then all the animators start up studios of their own, doing creative things that Disney would never allow (like making animation aimed at grown-ups, and not cranking out family-friendly drivel), and then become wildly successful. </rant>

If Disney goes bankrupt, that means Pixar goes bankrupt too.

[GabrielsThoughts]

ha! Pixar was bought out by Disney last year, the founders started a new company called studio six or something similar...meaning that Pixar only exists as a name and a franchise.

[bill]

ha! Pixar was bought out by Disney last year, the founders started a new company called studio six or something similar...meaning that Pixar only exists as a name and a franchise.

I think you need to do some factchecking tbh

[RJ]

Haha... going back to the Enchanted movie from before, Disney decided to drop the girl from the Disney Princess line because they realised they'd have to pay the actress royalties for her image. They've instead decided to include the character from the upcoming The Princess and the Frog movie, and possibly Rapunzel from her movie that'll be coming out in 2010.

;_; I'm so glad Disney is going back to the good stuff. The Princess and the Frog is supposed to be set within the 1920s Jazz Era, and Rapunzel seems like it is going to have a really, really interesting art style to it. I wish I could track down a picture of what they mean, all I've been able to find is theoretical stuff on what they're trying to achieve.

[Toric]

I've actually been looking forward to this movie, at least how they treat the differences between the fairy-tale world and the "real" world, and what happens when the differences between the two go away. Darn, I might have to see this now to either warn everyone away or spread the Enchanted virus as a drooling Disney zombie fanboy.

[techmaster-glitch]

I just saw the movie. It actually wasn't half-bad. Most of it didn't seem forced. Except for the beginning and animal clean-up scene, even though I know those were completely deliberate, it still made me shuffle a little uncomfortably. But other than that, it was an alright movie.
I liked the Dragon special effects at the end, that was pretty cool.

[Alondro]

*nods*  I feared it was going to be just another stupid hip-hip modern kiddie crap movie.  But it seems Disney kinda makes fun of its own tendancy for overly-fluffy stories in the movie. 

Can't go wrong there.   

Still, give me the Wicked Queen from "Snow White".  Or Maleficent.  They were some truly wicked evil villains! 

[Vidar]

Is disney ever going to make something like "the black cauldron", except with a higher budget? Isn't the world tired yet of rehashed fluffy crap? *sigh*