Cybernations

[Darkdragon]

Do you guys remember which senator were we supposed to vote for as part of the Pegasus agreement? (Or there was never such a clause and I'm remembering things I never heard?)

[Shadrok]

Do you guys remember which senator were we supposed to vote for as part of the Pegasus agreement? (Or there was never such a clause and I'm remembering things I never heard?)

I wouldn't know any thing about that Darkdragon.

Also I have to say congrats Tezkat your number 86 on the ballot.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

According to the Pegasus boards:

Senate Candidates for Senate term beginning 15-April-09

i hate cyber nations of i hate cyber nations for MASH
The Pansy of Pansy Commune for Valhalla
Dan2680 of Red Army for Nebula-X

... on Jan the 8th, and then on April the 10th:

Can I ask that any Pegasus nations who have yet to vote, please cast their senate vote for Dan2680 of Red Army.

Tnx,
Mo.

I'd say that that's Dan, then.

[Tezkat]

I have too much monies. Easter presents for all!

Hopefully that should help a bit with warchests and such.

...this place has everything!

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=212694

Member of the now defunct alliance HeroesofGaming!

A former confederation of alliances such as Element and Hyperion that tried to fight NPO!

We lost! Badly!

Heh. Small world, huh? Were you interested in joining up? We could always use new tech farms members. As Pegasus members, we're mostly aligned with the evil NPO camp, mind you...

[Darkdragon]

Thanks for the money, Tezkat.

I've also just realized we got a (rather blank) article on the Cyber Nations Wiki which can be found here.

I remember some time in the distant past where we went and assigned titles to all of our members so it would appear we would have "government positions" in our pseudo-anarchist democracy. I think it would be a great idea to go and polish that page ^.^

[Ganurath]

Ooh! Can I be Head of Nonpurple Relations?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I don't believe I was ever leader. "Doormat" was as close as we got to diplomatic status, as I recall.

Please, feel free to spend effort making things look pretty.

[Darkdragon]

As a founder of the alliance, I dare say you are a de facto leader. The infobox has a field for "officials" and we can move you there, if you would prefer it that way.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

As I understand it, Tez gets to be leader by default, simply because he's the biggest. I'd love to change that, but at this stage, I don't see it happening...

[Tezkat]

Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you?


For the most part, other alliances simply want to know who the goto guy is when they need to contact us. And that's llearch. When I had to explain who was running things to the new Pegasus leadership, I just said that llearch was our foreign affairs guy, while I managed the economic and military side. Which is more or less how things work in practice. Most people don't get the leaderless anarchy thing. Last time I adopted an official title, it was something silly like "Ebil Kitteh".

[Ganurath]

Wait, so no arbitrary and self-glorifying titles? Not even silly ones?

That makes Ganurath a sad panda...

[Mao]

Weee!  It's raining money!  Thank you very much!  If you wants tech, just let me know.

[Darkdragon]

Wait, so no arbitrary and self-glorifying titles? Not even silly ones?

Well, I'm going to say you're allowed to give yourself a title as long as it doesn't suggest that you actually work in our "government", while implying you are. There's a lot of alliances with silly titles which at first glance you wouldn't know what they did. But you should check with the others before applying said title.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Weee!  It's raining money!  Thank you very much!  If you wants tech, just let me know.

Please. Of course, it wasn't raining money on me, but honestly, I've probably got enough already - over a hundred million in both CN and Galava...

Some tech swaps would be good to set up again, if someone is still small enough to warrant such boosting...

[Tezkat]

Wait, so no arbitrary and self-glorifying titles? Not even silly ones?

That makes Ganurath a sad panda...

Well... we're an anarchic collective with little in way of real rules. You can be Saint Attila's Holy Hand Grenade for all we care. On the other hand, I wouldn't take on a title like Head of Nonpurple Relations unless you actually plan to spend a lot of time on Coldfront heading up relations with nonpurples. It's just common sense. People would go to our wiki page to find out who to contact in alliance matters. Now if you really do want to be our new MFA...

[Ganurath]

Understoof. Keeping team colors (and my non-furriness) in mind, can my nation hold the title of Token [term that applies, but won't offend]?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Token Sane Person?

[Ganurath]

Token Sane Person?

You're talking about a guy who checks his closet for gnomes looking to sodomize him with russet potatoes in his sleep.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

And?

The fact that you're our token sane person doesn't make you sane. Merely comparatively so, at best. That, or it's tongue-in-cheek, in which case you're not sane at all, even comparatively. Either way, it doesn't say a thing about you that isn't immediately obvious to any passer-by, to whit, you're a person.

You are a person, aren't you?

[Ganurath]

Of course I'm a person, despite what some folks may say. I cited my humanity (versus furry-ness) as a reason to be the Token Something, after all.

[lucas marcone]

i need permission to help out a trading partner....yes again.....diffrent one i promise. he is at war with a non aligned nation. this nation attacked him once, claimed to have attacked the wrong nation sent for peace, then attacked again. i am looking to send him a bundle of 50 tech, 1000 soldiers and some cash to be determined.

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=316586
his nation

[Ganurath]

Message: Greetings and Hello,
I would like to extend to you my warmest greetings and salutations! You are receiving this letter as part of an effort to make the first small alliance conference on planet BoB a huge success. Please understand that this is not an offer for mergers or new treaties, but a chance to get to know some of the smaller alliances that dot our beloved planet Bob. A channel has been established on Coldfront #small_alliance for the purposes of this conference. If you have never used IRC, i suggest you go to http://www.mibbit.com/chat/ select ColdFront as your server and type #small_alliance as the channel. I look forward to seeing you there and sharing some comraderie with the other small alliances. The conference will be going on throughout the week so please come by at any time.

Anybody else in the alliance get this PM, or did being the Token Something get me special attention?

[Darkdragon]

Anybody else in the alliance get this PM, or did being the Token Something get me special attention?

I got the same thing. Either our plan is working and they "recognize" our anarchic system (unlikely) or it's a mass message (more likely).

EDIT: Missing apostrophe

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I'm lurking in the channel they've suggested. We'll see what happens.


lucas, what permission do you need? If you want to help someone out, help them out. If you're going to get stuck into someone, that's different. Either way, it's your problem, no? Or am I missing something?

[lucas marcone]

well i like to get permission before getting myself into anything that might bite us in the ass later.

[lucas marcone]

turns out the attacking nation said it was "practice" and he was "learning how to use the war menu to wich i told him practice and learning stop well short of causing anarchy...later he sent for peace. he was probably some raider who got scared a nation of my size was meddling in his affairs. anyway it's all over and i can keep my wheat and uranium coming in.

[Tezkat]

well i like to get permission before getting myself into anything that might bite us in the ass later.

Maybe "permission" isn't quite the right word here, but it's absolutely a good idea to consult before helping out folks outside the alliance. Some alliances consider foreign aid tantamount to a declaration of war, since it's aiding and abetting the enemy. I wouldn't worry about this particular situation, however. It's good that everything worked out in the end.


Some other things to keep in mind...

Sending tech to someone on the losing end of a war or raid is rarely a good idea. That's sort of like feeding the enemy. Beyond the first 15 points (and certain other milestones needed for military purchases), only large differences in tech levels have much impact on fights.

Sending troops can cause problems. They're dirt cheap to buy, and accepting outside troops can mess up collections or deployments.

Except in special circumstances, cash is the only thing you should be sending into an active war. And you should have enough to spare, because you've built up your warchest. Right?

[Tezkat]

In case you guys haven't noticed, Great War: 2009 Edition broke out this week. Our current status is a bit... confused at the moment. Valhalla--our main tie to the conflict--backed out and is biding their time in hippie mode. However, it's likely that we'll be drawn into the fight one way or another. Either way, we're probably low on the first strike lists, but a bit of military padding wouldn't hurt at this point.

All non-military spending should be completely on hold. Anyone who still needs help with their warchests, give a holler now!

[Mao]

This happens just after I lose on of my main trading partners and after I spent a large amount on infra.  Lovely.  I *think* 4 mil will work as a warchest.  I pay  $211,688.00 a day.. so that's about 20 days I can go without any money coming in.

[Ganurath]

Switched government to Federal for soldier bonus, and ready to dismantle my Border Walls in favor of Barracks in case war gets declared.