More Reggielution talk

[Xuzaf D]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/665/665952p1.html

This explains the "why" pretty well.

[Darkmoon]

Yeah,i read that when it was first posted. Honestly, the guy makes some great points. Sadly, I just don't know if the market can support this new and bold idea(s). I want it to, and I think other will get behind it. But just how many will like these new ideas?

[Xuzaf D]

Nintendo has a point though. How many selling points for X-box 360 and PS3 are just higher numbered sequals? Could we say, perhaps, all of them?

[Destina Faroda]

But sequels in of themselves are not bad things.   I mean, should Metal Gear Solid 4 be dissed solely because it's a sequel?  What about the latest Mario and Zelda games, then?  It's one thing to want innovation, but you have to have something to lure the repeat customers.

That being said, I agree that there really not that much innovative about the state of gamers, although I do believe the author is wrong when assessing the "shrinking market."  Games are popular and are probably more embedded in pop culture now than they were 20 years ago.  And the model set forth by Nintendo has held true since then.  Heck other than a vastly improved medium for storing multimedia and the presentation differences that follow, there really isn't that much difference between the PS1 and PS2.  But there comes a point where the you have to acknowledge there's no point in reinventing the wheel.  The next gen Playstation and X-Box 360 might be like adding training wheels to a bicycle, but the Revolution is like an automobile powered with feet a la the Flinstones.  Innovative, yes.  Ultimately successful?  Nope.

[Xuzaf D]

But sequels in of themselves are not bad things.   I mean, should Metal Gear Solid 4 be dissed solely because it's a sequel?  What about the latest Mario and Zelda games, then?  It's one thing to want innovation, but you have to have something to lure the repeat customers.

I don't mean it like that. When I say a game just has a higher number I'm refering to the sequals that have not altered gameplay at all, aside from two new charactors and a new gun. The games you mention don't suffer from that problem like shooters and fighters do.

[Darkmoon]

I actually tend to think that the Revolution has a lot more going for it than a FLintstone mobile. There's a lot of functionality that can be derived from the new controller, and they have stated that more normal style controllers will be released as well for games as need it.

I just think it's a matter of really selling the system and what it can do in comparison to what gamers expect.

[Slayer...]

Reggie once said "I'm all about kicking names and taking ass!!"

[DragonCub]

Even though we have all the major systems (dating back to Atari), Nintendo has always been a personal favorite. Unfortuantely, as of the last console war, they have fallen into a distant third place. I wouldn't be suprised to see them go the way of SEGA after the next console war, but maybe they'll suprise us. And they are still at the very top of the handheld war, so there is hope.

[Xuzaf D]

Dude, X-box is only in head of gamecube in the US. X-box was luke warm in Europe and sunk like a damn rock in Japan. Nintendo is doing fine.

Considering the possibility of the 360 costing probably a hundred dollars more than the PS3 (if you want one that works) and other possibility of having to spend even more every year to keep the system up-to-date; the X-box is the true candidate for extinction.

[Darkmoon]

Last I saw in the news, Sony was perfecting it's copy protection software that would make the games they produce playable on only the first system it was used in, thus negating the ability to sell games, trade them, take them to a friends house... or use them on a new machine if your old PS3 breaksdown.

[Sin Ominous]

Oh yeah, didn't Sony also have that copy protection issue on DualDisc technology that made PCs hacker-ready?

Yeah, like I'll trust them on their software again.

[Xuzaf D]

Last I saw in the news, Sony was perfecting it's copy protection software that would make the games they produce playable on only the first system it was used in, thus negating the ability to sell games, trade them, take them to a friends house... or use them on a new machine if your old PS3 breaksdown.

News where? Can you find that article?

[Darkmoon]

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000420067137/

She actually found it reposted elsewhere, but that's the most direct link to a trustworthy news site.

And yeah, especially considering their last fiasco, you would think they'd be intelligent. But no, Sony seems content to punishg the paying customers time and again since they can't seem to punish the cheaters.

[Xuzaf D]

Ha! The quote refers to "so-called used software purchase" instead of an "actual used software purchase." In other words, burned copies would be void in machines because they haven't been registered legally. This is clearly more of a misinterpreted statement than anything else.

[Darkmoon]

Maybe, maybe not. The intent of the disc is to make it impossible to use on more than one machine. The  machine itself won't normally read burned CDs anyway, so making it have extra software to prevent burned CDs seems rather pointless.

[Xuzaf D]

I think it makes sense to me since many people hack up their systems to play pirated games. Going to the software instead is the logical choice.

[Darkmoon]

Not very. All they have to do is install a hack that bypasses the software. Anyone that spends tme tearing apart their systems will figure a way around it, and publish it online, and those that don't wouldn't have been affected by it normally. If it really does stop real games from being played on more than one system like they say it will, than the only people it's effecting are the people that legit buy their games anyway.

Idiocy.

[Xuzaf D]

You have a point. I suppose a system could be hacked up to bypass the encoding or whatever. However, the "one system limit" is only a theory brought up by the writer of the article and is not backed up in the qoute at all. I'm not going to buy into that theory at all.

[Darkmoon]

I dunno. I mean, of course with the negative flack, Sony isn't gonna come out and SAY what they really intended the software for. But considering Sony...