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[Supercheese]

Yay, changed and moved! 

[Damaris]

Okay, they're not going to reclassify us.  They have us in Games for ever and ever amen, and given the description:

Games
Sites that provide information about or promote electronic games, video games, computer games, role-playing games, or online games. Includes sweepstakes and giveaways.

Meh, we kinda fit it pretty well, especially with the blown out forums.

Now, the good news is we're not down for objectionable content.  So, we're not marked as a site.  The only way that we'll get blocked is if your network admin has "games" blocked, and then you should be able to get them to add the URL to the allowed list.  (unless you're at work, in which case I wouldn't try.)

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

*whistles innocently and fiddles with the firewall*

What? What? *looks innocent*

[Gabi]

*Is posting from work.*

But anyway, it's a good thing the forum's content is not considered objectionable.

[Damaris]

Yes, that is helpful.

[Wildy]

*scratches at the computer screen* I want.. The forum.. =( Slow days are even slower without it.

I can't really complain about the admins just doing their job though. Figures the one category that sticks, "Games", is the one they have it blocked as at work. *snickers* Though I probably shouln't be on there at work anyhow. 

[Damaris]

If you go seduce the network admin, you might be able to get him to allow our specific URL.  (For use on lunchbreaks only, of course) 

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

... or get FKK to seduce, as appropriate... *grin*

[Gabi]

Considering Wildy's appearance and charisma (both quite helpful), a pair of cute puppy eyes might do the trick.

[Azlan]

Considering Wildy's appearance and charisma (both quite helpful), a pair of cute puppy eyes might do the trick.

Not with government employees it doesn't. 

Surprisingly, this URL is not filtered by either the USMC or USN networks.  There are some connection issues, I tend to receive 'page cannot be displayed' errors that are easily solved with refreshes.  I'd like to check our proxies, but I'm not on the engineering side... just lowly enterprise admin.

I'd like to know which domain Wildy's site uses...

[ilpalazzo]

I could tell you, that neither Icvd nor CMF are blocked at my school or at my work. HAHAHA!

[Supercheese]

*is currently posting this from a very strict private college (I'm at a camp)*

Well... I'm not having any issues (other than bein' forced to use Internet Explorer).

[Wildy]

Took me long enough to get back to this thread. See! See what not having this at work does! I don't lurk as often anymore!!! =( 

OK, enough of that. Yeah. I've met and talked to the network admins. (Not about this) But she actually likes me etc. We get along. But as we just had network security training last week. They advise us not to surf the net at all. She says it it was up to her we'd have only access to the intranet (Or whatever it is called) and not the internet.

I don't think I'm going to be able to sweet talk them. =D Issok.

[Gabi]

How mean I know someone who has that restriction. I would hate to work in a place like that.

[Sid]

They advise us not to surf the net at all. She says it it was up to her we'd have only access to the intranet (Or whatever it is called) and not the internet.

That, plus your "government installation" bit somehow make me imagine you working in some kind of nuclear weapons depot in a very remote part of the desert. ("Ms. San, please, PLEASE stay away from the big, red button. Yes, I know it's shiny, but still.")

And given how much malware and stuff is around on the net (Didn't I hear of an ad on MySpace distributing junk like that recently? I've been massively out of the loop these days, so don't quote me on it...) and how productivity-killing some sites can be, that's technically a good decision, even though you not often being able to watch us discuss everything from quantum physics  and astronomy to 3am drink experiments does of course suck

[Netami]

Heh, they don't want them surfing the net because they probably use Internet Explorer and government workers have a tendancy of downloading every goddamn toolbar known to man and "somehow" saying yes to all other forms of malware installation.

Okay, so maybe that's just teachers.

[Rowne]

Actually, saying that ...

Using Fx with NoScript (an extension) installed or K-Meleon (which has NoScript built in), would it actually be possible for anything to get into those browsers?  I'd imagine that they'd both be forts of security.  I've never heard anything ever actually getting past that.  NoScript's protection systems are absurd though, which is why I love it.

I think the only reason people should eve really worry is if they're running Internet Explorer with a very happy and ready-to-whore ActiveX sitting in the background.

---- Edit

Dammit!  You beat me to it Netami because I was sitting around and replying to IMs instead of typing up my reply.  *Cough.*  Though once again, we think alike.

[Sid]

Using Fx with NoScript (an extension) installed or K-Meleon (which has NoScript built in), would it actually be possible for anything to get into those browsers?  I'd imagine that they'd both be forts of security.  I've never heard anything ever actually getting past that.  NoScript's protection systems are absurd though, which is why I love it.

The obvious problem would be to prove that nothing can get past it. Like, ever. And even then you'd most likely have to prove that to some dude with an expensive suit and little computer knowledge. You know, the kind who for example heard from his cousin's friend that Open Source software is more vulnerable to attacks because all the bad people can look at the sourcecode.

Most managers will prefer to shut stuff like that down before risking potential damage from an unpredicted attack. The monetary wins (of allowing full net acces) for the company are minimal (unless you actually remember to weigh in the effects of the potential morale boost - but even then it will not be THAT much I think) while the potential worst-case loss is extreme (like those cases where sensitive customer data had been "stolen"[1]). So most companies will simply avoid or at least minimize the risk.

[1] - Data itself can't really be stolen unless the thief somehow manages to destroy all backups beyond the chance of recovery. The word "stolen" refers (in this case) to stuff like installing a trojan to grab a copy of the files or something like that.

[Rowne]

If there's one thing I'll hate Microsoft forever for, it's that they take advantage of the stupidity that runs rampant in the collective mind of normality and they use it to spread FUD.  It's a good point, Sid but only because people are ill-informed misanthropes.  Oh the World we live in.  ;p

Actually, short of some kind of weird buffer overflow bug, I'm not sure how anything could get past K-Meleon though.  NoScript basically turns off everything by default other than HTML rendering, which is nice.  Then one picks the sites one wishes to allow certain more dangerous aspects of web browsing to be enabled for.  In a company environment, one could simply setup NoScript to not allow such entries but as you've said, that wouldn't fly with a suit-encrusted fellow who's had his fill of FUD.

[Azlan]

Yes... government employees... many of them do like their internet access. 

Them: "My computer is so slow... fix it."

Me: "My... 86 running processes and only 36 of them are system related and approved apps.  Not a problem." *re-images*

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Getting the time to build the images, and the corporate backing to make sure every machine is identical, has -such- an impact on workflow.

... particularly when you -can- do things like that. :-)

[Arcalane]

Heh, they don't want them surfing the net because they probably use Internet Explorer and government workers have a tendancy of downloading every goddamn toolbar known to man and "somehow" saying yes to all other forms of malware installation.

Okay, so maybe that's just teachers.

`nuff said.

[Wildy]

"Ms. San, please, PLEASE stay away from the big, red button. Yes, I know it's shiny, but still."

Heee... All I can do is grin at this.. >=3

And given how much malware and stuff is around on the net (Didn't I hear of an ad on MySpace distributing junk like that recently, and how productivity-killing some sites can be, that's technically a good decision, even though you not often being able to watch us discuss everything from quantum physics  and astronomy to 3am drink experiments does of course suck D:

The fact that there is so much spyware/adware/viruses out there is the reason. The fact that the mass majority of the workers here don't know squat about computers dosn't help. It isn't so much that some dope keeps dling IE toolbars but that when popups come up they don't know how to get rid of them and click on them along with other things and get themselves in trouble. DLing images out of e-mails. Etc. I've had to help a couple people who are utterly lost when the layout changes a bit after an update. And just how to foreward a message. Most of these guys are getting ready to retire and never touched a computer before and only do it here because they are REQUIRED to have a login, even if they don't want it.

Hell before I had my first web security training thinger when I first started, I didn't know that on a windows computer you right click on the toolbar at the bottom to close a popup and not the x because that can just open up another window in some cases. (They had a case of that which REALLY freaked out the worker who after not being able to close the windows panicked and yanked the power.) I think it was to a gay smut site. Which, don't get me wrong, I'm not into gay smut. Etc. Don't think there's anything wrong with people being gay and such. But when you work in an area where the people are the old fashioned types who arn't as accepting and if they saw that on your screen you'd never hear the end of it. Yeah, I'd have been worried too.


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[Netami]

There is no greater joy in life than coming into a second grade teacher's classroom and talking to her about gay porn pop ups on her computer.

"I could see a naked man!"