The stupid, it burns!

[Vidar]

http://fstdt.com/

Oh well, at least I won't suffer alone.



* warning: reading this site may cause permanent brain damage, freak nosebleeds, and neighbours trying to find out why you have been screaming for the past half-hour. *

[bill]

Note: Not all religious fundamentalists are dumb.


That being said, this is hilarious.

[Reese Tora]

My brain, it bleeds. 

[Netrogo]

I LoLed.

[Reese Tora]

I'm praying for you, it's probably a lost cause, but I'm earning points with Jesus.

Can he redeem his jesus points for fabulous prizes?

[Alondro]

I'm praying for you, it's probably a lost cause, but I'm earning points with Jesus.

Can he redeem his jesus points for fabulous prizes?

Yes!  You can choose from smiting the wicked, walking on water, one "Raised From the Dead" gift certificate, or "Get Out of Hell Free" card!   

[Faerie Alex]

It makes me want to cry, bang my head on a desk, and bang their heads on a desk all at the same time.

[Netrogo]

Go with the third option. Fundies are nature's stress balls.

[Toric]

This one literally stunned me. I was unable to move, with a stupid look plastered on my face:

"[Replying to 'as for not seeing evolution it takes several million years... incase you missed that memo...']

several million years for a monkey to turn into a man. oh wait thats right. monkeys dont live several million years."

I'm very glad they documented where on the Internet these things were said. Myspace and a Christian forum you'd expect, but this one was from Gaia Online. I love examples of human ignorance (even with the realization that I'm ignorant about a ton of things myself).

Edit: And the very next post I read was of a woman talking about her reaction to her son's coming out of the closet. ......It linked to another post confirming that the son commited suicide. It's suddenly not so funny.

[Faerie Alex]

The one that I really liked was:

One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

Much like the moon hoax theory that says the astronauts never left Earth's gravitational field, both statements seem self-defeating because they are absolutely true. I could also attempt to make some joke about this person's being a basement dweller. But I choose not to.

[Sunblink]

I couldn't bring myself to LoL until I did it merely out of spite, just because I realized how hilarious it is that a sixteen-year-old girl who, according to the average fundie, is going to hell, is finding the behavior of people who are probably years older than her pitiful.

Fundies say the darndest things, indeed. Feel the tolerance and acceptance! [/sarcasm]

~Keaton the Black Jackal

[Tapewolf]

Not all of them are fundies - frequently the comments are moronic counterarguments, so as we can see neither side has a monopoly on stupidity.  And as a sideeffect it does mean they are being somewhat balanced, which is always a good thing.

That said, I did like this one:  http://fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=31312

"This is the doorway to my bedroom.  The guy in the picture is Jesus.  So if some night... Someone breaks into my home... And comes upstairs to beat the crap out of me...  He's gotta get by Jesus first."

Leaving aside that it's just a picture (which alone breaks the 2nd commandment, IIRC) you'd think Jesus would have more important stuff to do than play guard-dog.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Leaving aside that it's just a picture (which alone breaks the 2nd commandment, IIRC) you'd think Jesus would have more important stuff to do than play guard-dog.

I was going to say:
It's not breaking the second commandment, though. The image isn't engraved, is it? On two counts, now that I come to think of it - he's not worshipping it, either.

"You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I The Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

But, on second reading.. you're not allowed to make -any- image. Which is, I think, possibly one of the more stupid interpretations.

Wikipedia gives:
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." Exodus 20:4 & Deuteronomy 5:8

Both from the New Revised Standard Edition.

Now, that makes a lot more sense - under the original, you were unable to make -any- images at all. No painting, no carving, no nothing. What a great way to keep your people barefoot and ignorant.

The new version lets other images stand, as long as they're not being idolised (like, say, the American dollar...)

[Dannysaysnoo]

The one that I really liked was:

One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

Much like the moon hoax theory that says the astronauts never left Earth's gravitational field, both statements seem self-defeating because they are absolutely true. I could also attempt to make some joke about this person's being a basement dweller. But I choose not to.

Isn't the second law of thermodynamics "IN A CLOSED ENVIROMENT, all things tend towards entropy"?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Isn't the second law of thermodynamics "IN A CLOSED ENVIROMENT, all things tend towards entropy"?

Yup. What, is the Universe not a closed environment?

What they're missing is that "tends towards" is very rough. You can have local areas that trend -backwards- to that, and still be following the rules.

Stars are one such "local trend". Evolving life, in Universe size scales, is just a blip.

As DNA had it: "Space is REALLY big. No, not just big, really really big. I mean, you may think it's a long way down to the shops, but compared to space, that's just minuscule..."

[Dannysaysnoo]

As DNA had it: "Space is REALLY big. No, not just big, really really big. I mean, you may think it's a long way down to the shops, but compared to space, that's just minuscule..."

What you must have been trying to say there, in a possible quote of Hitchhiker, Is this.

"Space is big. Really big. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but thats just peanuts to space! Listen!" and so on.

[superluser]

What they're missing is that "tends towards" is very rough. You can have local areas that trend -backwards- to that, and still be following the rules.

One problem is that he's confusing thermodynamic entropy and informational entropy.

Both are related, but they say things that are somewhat oblique to each other.

Thermodynamic entropy is the amount of unusable energy in a closed system and it tends to increase (``tends to'' meaning ``will always'' in this case).  It's the second law of thermodynamics, and it's so firmly accepted that simply stating that something will break the second law is enough to completely dismiss that idea.

Informational entropy is a measure of how chaotic a system is and it also tends to increase, but only insofar as it is an analogue of thermodynamic entropy.  So eventually, we will all decay into humus and therefore contain less usable energy, and then entropy will increase.  As long as we're alive and making DNA macromolecules, the second law doesn't care what genes they have.

And I preferred the radio version:

"Space," it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the street to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space, listen..." and so on.

[Alondro]

Problem about the universe and entropy is that we can't tell what's beyond the edge of our expansion field.  We could be pushing out the remnants of an old universe for all we know.  There is no information at all about what our universe's edge is running into.

[Dannysaysnoo]

Problem about the universe and entropy is that we can't tell what's beyond the edge of our expansion field.  We could be pushing out the remnants of an old universe for all we know.  There is no information at all about what our universe's edge is running into.

All i know about laws of entropy, i learned from Dave Gorman...

[Brunhidden]

anyone remember the term paper someone did for high school that argued whether hell was exothermic or endothermic? i feel that fits this train of thought perfectly

[Dannysaysnoo]

anyone remember the term paper someone did for high school that argued whether hell was exothermic or endothermic? i feel that fits this train of thought perfectly

In that it probably will never end?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

In that it probably will never end?

No, I think he means the one that the student got an A for.

http://www.txc.net.au/~mapie/hell.htm

[Tapewolf]

No, I think he means the one that the student got an A for.
http://www.txc.net.au/~mapie/hell.htm

Awesome.

[Alondro]

Hell is a primitive concept based on a misinterpretation of several biblical passages while ignoring others which say quite clearly that it doesn't exist.  The 'hell' most commonly mentioned in the Bible is actually 'sheol', which is more properly interpreted as 'the grave'.  The passage in Revelation then that says 'death and hell were cast into the lake of fire' then becomes 'death and the grave were cast into the lake of fire', which is symbolism to denote the end of mortality for the saved.

That's the problem with languages, each time its translated things are altered or lost due to the difficulty of getting the exact idea copied perfectly from a totally different way of speaking.

Hence, perhaps, why God would have chosen to confuse the langauge at Babel.  Interesting, even if it is only a parable, that the writer of the occurrence realized so long ago how vital a common language was to cooporation.

So many interesting things are in the Bible, if only people would get past their own agenda.

[Brunhidden]

So many interesting things are in the Bible, if only people would get past their own agenda.

true, and on a similar note i wonder why everyone thinks every time the bible uses the term 'know' it means 'rape'

[Reese Tora]

So many interesting things are in the Bible, if only people would get past their own agenda.

true, and on a similar note i wonder why everyone thinks every time the bible uses the term 'know' it means 'rape'

wut?

I'm pretty sure everyone I know who knows what know means in the biblical sense knows know means simply to get it on. (ya know?)

[Caswin]

Not all of them are fundies - frequently the comments are moronic counterarguments, so as we can see neither side has a monopoly on stupidity.  And as a sideeffect it does mean they are being somewhat balanced, which is always a good thing.

That said, I did like this one:  http://fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=31312

"This is the doorway to my bedroom.  The guy in the picture is Jesus.  So if some night... Someone breaks into my home... And comes upstairs to beat the crap out of me...  He's gotta get by Jesus first."

Leaving aside that it's just a picture (which alone breaks the 2nd commandment, IIRC) you'd think Jesus would have more important stuff to do than play guard-dog.

"more important things to do" is an irrelevant concept when you're God.  I've never gotten that one, myself.

And... things like this depress me.  Outspoken minorities hurting a majority of decent people in general depress me.

[Brunhidden]

Not all of them are fundies - frequently the comments are moronic counterarguments, so as we can see neither side has a monopoly on stupidity.  And as a sideeffect it does mean they are being somewhat balanced, which is always a good thing.

That said, I did like this one:  http://fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=31312

"This is the doorway to my bedroom.  The guy in the picture is Jesus.  So if some night... Someone breaks into my home... And comes upstairs to beat the crap out of me...  He's gotta get by Jesus first."

Leaving aside that it's just a picture (which alone breaks the 2nd commandment, IIRC) you'd think Jesus would have more important stuff to do than play guard-dog.

"more important things to do" is an irrelevant concept when you're God.  I've never gotten that one, myself.

And... things like this depress me.  Outspoken minorities hurting a majority of decent people in general depress me.

i still find the mental imagery of jesus tackling a burglar hilarious

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

i still find the mental imagery of jesus tackling a burglar hilarious

"So, would you like to tell me what you were doing in his house, sir?"
"Well, I broke in to steal something, but as I was going into his bedroom, the painting on the door leaped off and grappled me to the ground."
"I see, sir."
"And then it tied me up, and went back to being a painting."
"I see, sir."
... "You don't believe me, do you, Officer?"
"Of course I believe you, sir."

;-]

[Angel]

Before I say anything about the site, my opinions on religious extremists can be seen here.

Now then. I note that one of my 'favorite' fundies, Pat Robertson, had something to say:

""The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.""

I feel no guilt in saying I detest this bucket of human waste and have a sneaking suspicion that God may feel the same way. These people make me want to put my head through a glass door. I shouldn't have to defend my Catholicism, but people like this make my faith look bad. It sucks.