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Title: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on August 31, 2006, 09:11:01 PM
You may discuss... now.


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Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: Kenji on August 31, 2006, 09:13:24 PM
I wish a rat would sleep on my lap.  :mowsad
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on August 31, 2006, 09:14:40 PM
I think the Rats are just comforting Abel because they're nice like that.  Magic is his natural environment after all, so that stuff doesn't scare him and he defends against it easily but out in this World, it's all new and seeing that kind of being abuse might give him childhood flashbacks.  Of what?  I dare not say.
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on August 31, 2006, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on August 31, 2006, 09:13:24 PM
I wish a rat would sleep on my lap.  :mowsad
That's what they all said. Then the bubonic plague occured.
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: Netami on August 31, 2006, 09:17:12 PM
I wish a rat would give ME a poptart.
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 31, 2006, 09:18:18 PM
ZOMG POP-TARTS! :U

-EDIT-
Grrrr, Netami is evil!  I wanted to be the one to point out the pop-tart. :cry
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on August 31, 2006, 09:18:37 PM
Strawberry poptarts FTW
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: Roureem Egas on August 31, 2006, 09:19:09 PM
I see no poptart with Abel. On one of the other rats, yeah. But not Abel.

How many morbid, creepy Mythos out there feel the need to have a skin removal spell?  D:
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on August 31, 2006, 09:20:25 PM
They were probably using it on themselves for amusement value.

Skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on ... I said, skin goes on.  Skin goes on!  Okay, which w***er casted the dispell?

(PG, so I'll asterisk out more of that possibly evil word!)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on August 31, 2006, 09:21:32 PM
That, or these are the anti-social Mythos, who sit at their own lunch table in their own little clique, desprately beliving that they're being taken seriously.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on August 31, 2006, 09:30:09 PM
thats is kind of scary if you aske me andthats why i pity dan but being her brother he'll likly surive this encounter.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zorro on August 31, 2006, 09:35:29 PM
When Dan Turned The Lake Pink...   :mowdan


OK Can't wait to hear THAT story!
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on August 31, 2006, 09:36:26 PM
The fact that he's survived said encounter makes it worse. What with all that being inflicted on him, or something..

Speaking of turning the lake pink, wasn't that mentioned a few hundred or so comics ago?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Manawolf on August 31, 2006, 09:37:28 PM
What'd she do, disable several of his muscles then readjust his limbs?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: The Lurking Dragon on August 31, 2006, 09:54:48 PM
Oddly enough I suspect the pink lake episode fits in the same category as a certain infamous "noodle incident." But then again what do I know?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on August 31, 2006, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: Rowne on August 31, 2006, 09:20:25 PM
They were probably using it on themselves for amusement value.

Skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on, skin goes off, skin goes on ... I said, skin goes on. Skin goes on! Okay, which w***er casted the dispell?

(PG, so I'll asterisk out more of that possibly evil word!)

Kinda reminds me the Japan epsiode of the simpsons..Knife goes in..Guts come out...knife goes in...guts come out..Are you getting sick yet peoples?  :P

And Zorro...You know that sounds great idea...Pink lost lake....
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Meech on August 31, 2006, 11:23:49 PM
I wonder if  the librarian is the mythos that Abel is talking about.  That would answer a lot of questions.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on August 31, 2006, 11:25:24 PM
Nope you gotta keep guessing
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on August 31, 2006, 11:28:17 PM
that was able talkin not dan. still i do want to know more
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Meech on August 31, 2006, 11:32:56 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on August 31, 2006, 11:28:17 PM
that was able talkin not dan. still i do want to know more

Yah I caught my mistake and fixed it.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Howru on August 31, 2006, 11:37:30 PM
Alexsi looks like she went up a few rankings on Abel's Scariest People Ever Met List (see 623).
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on August 31, 2006, 11:41:11 PM
one must respect of line of Ti'flion
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 01, 2006, 12:00:07 AM
apon hearing of Dan turning the lake pink for some reason I can't get the image of lots and lots of strawberry nesquick
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 12:05:02 AM
would that work to lure you into a trap oh baking bunny? (yes i know you're a hare but baking hare can give the wrong mental image and doesn't rhyme as well)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 01, 2006, 12:28:07 AM
Ohh It just might
*giggles*
I love strawberry quick,  though there banana ones are pretty good too.  but you can't buy banana syrupe. 

There was also a great milk drink that a local farm...  It tasted just like orange creamsicles looked terrible like pale orange peptobismal,  which is why it never caught on.  but it was so good...

*sighs*

sorry to ramble

(and Bunny, or hare is fine hon,  Elswhere I go by bunnyboy,  and some other places TGH)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 12:43:25 AM
there are times i wish i could get everyon togher and mamber start a acutal bar named Lost Lakes but where could i find Some one Like Alexi to run it for me?  alson hare did you make that sige of your's? i like the mega fox
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on September 01, 2006, 12:50:39 AM
I'd tell you, but then people would be like, "How'd you know that?"  and then my eyes would get all shifty, and everybody would stare at me. :(
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Shadrok on September 01, 2006, 12:51:08 AM
Would hate to be one of Alexsi's soon to arrive guests, what with them having no idea what they are about to walk into.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on September 01, 2006, 12:52:19 AM
I'd be surprised if there was anything left to walk into. :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Manawolf on September 01, 2006, 12:57:09 AM
Wait, by turning the lake pink, does she mean the lake nearby by or the Lost Lake tavern itself?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 12:58:40 AM
probaly the lake nearrby
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 01, 2006, 01:12:29 AM
Quote from: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 12:43:25 AM
alson hare did you make that sige of your's? i like the mega fox

that sounds cool Voyager,  Could I run a little bakery inside?

I put it together but the Image was done by Battle Angel.

Mega Tails  (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/boybnny2/ba_megatails.jpg)

and yeah I think it was mostlikely the lake itself that was turned.

I still vote for strawberry quick

Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Sienna Maiu - M T on September 01, 2006, 02:32:50 AM
And that is why children... one must never upset an Alexsi.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 01, 2006, 03:14:39 AM
Even if I am older than her by a few hundred years...I wont do so to make anyone mad
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Manawolf on September 01, 2006, 03:28:26 AM
Maybe I'm just getting a little tired of it, but I'd like to see if people could back up the supposed horrible things they're trying to convey.  I don't need an image, even putting it into words would be sufficient (I feel deaths don't always have to be seen, but I won't get into the whole thing about camera angles and what not right now).  The thing with jibberish talking characters that apparently everyone but the audience can understand is also getting old too, I'd at least settle for subtitles, as the jokes that spawn from jibberish talking don't really move me anymore.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Vidar on September 01, 2006, 04:11:52 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 31, 2006, 09:18:37 PM
Strawberry poptarts FTW

No, all poptarts lose. Home made toaster pies rule all. Par-bake them, them freeze them for up to six months.
Whenever you have breakfast, you just take one straight from the freezer, and pop it into your toaster, and these don't taste like over-sweetened cardboard.

Here's the recipe:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_32305,00.html
Now start cooking.


Also, turning the lake pink isn't a disaster, it's a bussiness oppertunity: "romantic boatrides on a pink lake".
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 01, 2006, 04:22:39 AM
I vote for Dan turning the bar pink.

After all, that's Alexsi's bar. :-)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 04:34:36 AM

as i say at the end of many a email i have lived for far to long to be careless about simple things like that. Alexi's bar is A.lexi's bar. let her change it and second guess it at you won Perl. now if you'll excuse me i must preform the sealing ritual

Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: mini-lion on September 01, 2006, 04:43:00 AM
so the joke may have been done before, i think its remarkable that Amber has the energy to do the comic at the moment.

Plus you never fail to dissappoint with the art work.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: King Of Hearts on September 01, 2006, 05:32:34 AM
Turning the lake pink almost sounds like a biblical plague... with Dan's blood as the catalyst, but alas, I will have to go with strawberry as well.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: luiqui on September 01, 2006, 06:24:52 AM
Personally, I don't find Alexi being violent funny. She's beginning to look like a total psycho.

On the plus side, sleepy rat on Abel's lap? Ee! :kittylove Plus, the way in which the stairs join onto the panel borders is pretty nifty.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Gabi on September 01, 2006, 06:42:50 AM
It's the first time I've felt sorry for Abel... At least in the regular comic.

I'm also curious about how Dan managed to turn the lake pink, but it may have been something silly.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 08:11:34 AM
I can't help but envision that it had something to do with Alexsi winning a competition, getting a lifetime supply of a certain soda brand for her Inn, said supply being airdropped in and that Dan, somehow screwing around, managed to smash up the crates that were being carried something fierce, thus spilling gallons of soda into the lake below.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Lucheek on September 01, 2006, 08:11:53 AM
Wait...I'm confused. What happened to Abel's clothing?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 08:13:00 AM
Abel was possibly using a magical shroud to mimic clothing.  In which case, does Abel spend almost all of his time naked, without anyone ever actually realizing it?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 08:27:38 AM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 08:13:00 AM
Abel was possibly using a magical shroud to mimic clothing.  In which case, does Abel spend almost all of his time naked, without anyone ever actually realizing it?

Abel is a capable tailor - I really don't think he would be quite so interested in clothing if he just willed it into existence.  He wouldn't have had the 'seventeen belts' problem in his Goth phase if the clothing was fake, since he could just have shut it down while he was in the john.  Also, if someone stunned him it would probably all disappear while he was unconscious, which would not be good mojo.

The green jacket definitely wasn't a projection because he had to dispose of it after the paint incident.  (One of my theories was that he'd projected it over his usual clothes)

More likely there's been a time lapse and he's got changed.

Quote from: luiqui on September 01, 2006, 06:24:52 AM
Personally, I don't find Alexi being violent funny. She's beginning to look like a total psycho.

I'm inclined to agree, and I'll say it again - she probably drove Merlitz away :)

**EDIT**
'tailor' not 'seamstress' - there appear to be some bad blocks in my internal lexicon
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 08:29:57 AM
This is true, good call on Abel enjoying tailoring.  I'd quite forgotten about that aspect of him.  If there's been a time lapse, that could explain why the upper floor has gone quiet enough for Abel to have that chat with the Ratties.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Mel Dragonkitty on September 01, 2006, 09:21:50 AM
I remember an incident when I was five and thought that it would be easier to make grape Tang for me and my siblings if we used something bigger than our little plastic cups. Good thing that my parents were replacing that bathtub anyway since it wasn't stained a very attractive shade of lavender. Probably Dan was just making pink lemonade for a crowd.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Caswin on September 01, 2006, 09:31:04 AM
I was initially thinking the lake-lake, but turning the tavern pink does sound funnier...
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
Caswin: So was I.

Mel: Oh, that made for some funny mental images.  I can see Dan standing by a pink lake with a gigantic "Lemonade, $2 for a LARGE cup" sign.  I giggle helplessly at this, since it's so very Dan.  You get karma for that one.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: luiqui on September 01, 2006, 09:38:13 AM
Quote from: Caswin on September 01, 2006, 09:31:04 AM
I was initially thinking the lake-lake, but turning the tavern pink does sound funnier...

Is there actually a lake at Lost Lake? I always assumed there was, but now that I think about it, I can't remember any actual evidence of that being the case.

BTW, Mel's idea is the best.

How big would you like your melonade? Large, extra large, giant, miraculous, or god-size?

Would you like ice-bergs with that?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 09:41:48 AM
I wish I had the time and resources for running through the archive, looking for the first mention of the lake being pink... But it's there, trust me.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 09:55:22 AM
Come to think of it (Lost Lake-related things), I'm actually surprised that Alexsi didn't try to kill Dan for the time he was near-naked dancing on the roof.  I mean, that's bound to scare off a few customers, isn't it?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 09:55:22 AM
Come to think of it (Lost Lake-related things), I'm actually surprised that Alexsi didn't try to kill Dan for the time he was near-naked dancing on the roof. I mean, that's bound to scare off a few customers, isn't it?
Or attract a few...
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 01, 2006, 10:25:10 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 01, 2006, 09:41:48 AM
I wish I had the time and resources for running through the archive, looking for the first mention of the lake being pink... But it's there, trust me.

According to my scripts, Lake is mentioned in arcs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 19. Most of thsoe are references to "Lost Lake", however, and none of them mention pink... except the last one.

Skipping through the images, the last time a lake was seen was in the background of panel 2 of 499, panel 1 of 498, 2 of 497, and, going further back (since that's not definitively Lost Lake), panels 3 and 4 of 481.

Prior to that, going back to Arc 16, strip 404, but that's Mab's glen, not Lost Lake... then 398, 397, 395, but again... and, finally, a clear shot in panel 2 of strip 394.

Mab's glen again back at 107... but that's the last one with water in the background...

Incidentally, do you know there's no strip 674? That was the bonus strip with the maple leaf bottle thing.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 10:27:11 AM
Ari: He was human at the time though, wasn't he?  Most certainly, in his normal state, Dan would definitely attract a few, especially given the reactions to him and Abel at the mall.  That said though, considering Merlitz's reaction to humans, I'm surprised that every adventurer for miles didn't turn up to try to kill hi... oh, I see what you mean.  Someone has to provide them all with ale.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Vidar on September 01, 2006, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 01, 2006, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 09:55:22 AM
Come to think of it (Lost Lake-related things), I'm actually surprised that Alexsi didn't try to kill Dan for the time he was near-naked dancing on the roof. I mean, that's bound to scare off a few customers, isn't it?
Or attract a few...
Like wildy. She offered money for taking off more clothes.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 10:38:04 AM
True, if Dan had acquiessed though, I'm almost certain that Alexsi would've killed him for the mental images alone.  That and Jyrras would never get another serene night's sleep again.  Ever.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on September 01, 2006, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: Zorro on August 31, 2006, 09:35:29 PM
When Dan Turned The Lake Pink...   :mowdan


OK Can't wait to hear THAT story!

Not if what is suspect happened happened, in which case Daniel having nine lives lost  three or more of them in the lake while fighting a kracken.... another life fighting Alexi after the fact because he hair got wet and another when he got stomped on by a dragon... with all the blood I'm sure that daniel could certainly turn the lake pink.

Mind you this is pure speculation on my part.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Alondro on September 01, 2006, 11:17:17 AM
*Charline awws*  The rats are soooo cute!  I just wanna eat them up!   >:3  Poor Abel.  I know he must want to devour their souls, but he can't lest he turn Dan away from the path to ebil to a permanent anti-cubi status and incur Fa'lina's wrath for his failure.

*Charles hmms*  Well, we know Charline can't be at SAIA if Abel thinks Alexsi is scarier than anything he's seen there.   :mowtongue  Of course, I've always suspected that if Charline were in the DMFA-verse she'd be something of an antagonist to Fa'lina, since the wicked lioness has an outright disdain of beings and will eat any that get in her way, while Fa'lina is a wee bit more subtle.  Yet even Charline has a compassionate side...  :mowwink

*Charline growls and threatens the human*  You shut up about that... I can do far worse things to you than kill you, you know...   :evil
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Alondro on September 01, 2006, 11:17:17 AM
*Charles hmms*  Well, we know Charline can't be at SAIA if Abel thinks Alexsi is scarier than anything he's seen there.

She was probably expelled :twisted
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Azlan on September 01, 2006, 11:38:23 AM
I don't think there is a kraken in the lake.

Dan used to have magic when he was a child (evidenced in previous strip), perhaps he tried something magical and turned the lake that odd color?

Charline was never at the SAIA, she just imagined it all...
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Gabi on September 01, 2006, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Alondro on September 01, 2006, 11:17:17 AM
*Charles hmms* Well, we know Charline can't be at SAIA if Abel thinks Alexsi is scarier than anything he's seen there.

She was probably expelled :twisted
What could get her expelled from SAIA? Did she try to eat the teachers or something?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Gabi on September 01, 2006, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
[Charline] was probably expelled :twisted
What could get her expelled from SAIA? Did she try to eat the teachers or something?

Eating other students.. eating teachers.. eating Fa'Lina*..


*If Fa'lina truly is a tri-wing, it is almost certain that she has prevented herself from being able to die, a'la Wavyhill in 'What good is a glass dagger?'
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 01:38:36 PM
dan's life is still one of danger and adventuer even after all this time. oh well at least he'll never stay borad at this rate.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 01, 2006, 01:39:11 PM
"Sticky and now it can bite back!"

... Well, ok. Chewing on someone who won't die has to have that sort of effect....
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 01:41:32 PM
pancakes ferret style?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 01, 2006, 02:39:23 PM
great... now for some reason I have the lyrics "Waltzing Matilda* going threw my head
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Amber Williams on September 01, 2006, 03:07:06 PM
Up next: Abel chasing spiders and eating lasagna! :3
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Saist on September 01, 2006, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on September 01, 2006, 03:07:06 PM
Up next: Abel chasing spiders and eating lasagna! :3

*stares at Amber*

Abelfied?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on September 01, 2006, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on September 01, 2006, 03:07:06 PM
Up next: Abel chasing spiders and eating lasagna! :3
Then, the sellout and movie deal?
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: terrycloth on September 01, 2006, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: Rowne on August 31, 2006, 09:14:40 PM
I think the Rats are just comforting Abel because they're nice like that.  Magic is his natural environment after all, so that stuff doesn't scare him and he defends against it easily but out in this World, it's all new and seeing that kind of being abuse might give him childhood flashbacks.  Of what?  I dare not say.

Nah, I think Abel just got majorly emotion-jammered. After all, beings have never seemed unnaturally afraid of her (wildy's brother even stole her hammer), but creatures all leave her alone...
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 03:54:49 PM
Can't only Cubi emotion-jammer (I didn't think beings had that ability)?

Anyway!

The DMFA movie?  Not so sure about.  The DMFA OVA?  Ohhyes!  We need to get Amber signed up with a major animation production company.  24 episodes of animated DMFA goodness?  That's worth my £32(/$60).
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Manawolf on September 01, 2006, 03:56:51 PM
I think he meant Abel got a tidal wave of Alexsi's violent thoughts.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Supercheese on September 01, 2006, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 03:54:49 PM
The DMFA movie?  Not so sure about.  The DMFA OVA?  Ohhyes!  We need to get Amber signed up with a major animation production company.  24 episodes of animated DMFA goodness?  That's worth my £32(/$60).

Worth more than that...

P.S. You have "Dancing All Alone" by smile.dk in your sig. You win a cookie.  :mowcookie
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 04:18:10 PM
Mana: I surmised that but I also believe that Abel's probably got some kind of barrier up against being fed with too much emotion (from a non-magical source).

I think that's been discussed in the comic by Fa'lina and others and that's what I was drawing on when I said that I didn't think beings had the ability to force-feed emotions like that, since it would wash up against that barrier and just dissipate.

I could be totally off the mark here but I did understand that which he was trying to convey.

Supercheese: You're likely right, it's just that usually I don't buy box-sets of the sort.  I was going by how much I paid for my Outlaw Star (not pirated, it wasn't in one of those cheep cardboard cases, it was three separate actual DVD cases in a box) boxed set.  I didn't really have much to go on.  So even if it's a $100 or more, it'd still be worth it!  It really, really would.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 04:20:07 PM
With the way he was talking, I think it was just the sight, and not the emotions..
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 04:21:01 PM
S'possible.

If that's the case though, what did Alexsi do to Dan?

In fact, this thought has been disturbing on ... many levels.  Thanks Ari.  <.<
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 03:54:49 PM
Can't only Cubi emotion-jammer (I didn't think beings had that ability)?


Emotion -jammer is what happend when a cub is over whelmed but one emotion. there is no reason a being can do it if that focus but in that case Able is probably picking up fear projected strongly form varuse souses  and that would including some of Dan's pain.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 04:28:08 PM
I put $10 on whatever we see as a result being humorously anticlimactic..

an additional $25 on not getting specifics. >.>
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Amber Williams on September 01, 2006, 04:31:44 PM
I love it when readers start betting money...especially when its something I can easily then twist to my favour. >:3
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 04:38:01 PM
all i can say is. "Remember the eggbeater!"
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 01, 2006, 06:02:08 PM
If Dan's blood is pink...Does that mean his blood is Gay Fuel?   D: (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/gayfuel.jpg)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 06:04:10 PM
okay now thats a scary thought to one whom is mentally unscarable

now i was sure i'd spell ched but whast happend?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 01, 2006, 06:15:19 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on September 01, 2006, 04:31:44 PM
I love it when readers start betting money...especially when its something I can easily then twist to my favour. >:3

I see. So.. who's your proxy? :-)
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: terrycloth on September 01, 2006, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 04:18:10 PM
Mana: I surmised that but I also believe that Abel's probably got some kind of barrier up against being fed with too much emotion (from a non-magical source).

I think that's been discussed in the comic by Fa'lina and others and that's what I was drawing on when I said that I didn't think beings had the ability to force-feed emotions like that, since it would wash up against that barrier and just dissipate.

Abel talked about how he'd emotion-jammer other cubi students (when he was calling himself stupid for trying it on Jyrras), so the normal barrier can't be proof against it.

But yeah, I was thinking that with the way people acted around Alexsi despite the lack of any obvious ability on her part to devastate whole continents or whatever, she might just have really really strong emotions that effectively act like the emotion-jammer thing.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 06:58:02 PM
nods. yes that follow my line of thought. that and Dan could be helping with out realizing it.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 01, 2006, 08:00:27 PM
Sides you'd just have to try very hard to put an emontial jammer on moi!
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 08:06:57 PM
could be but then consider i spend more of my time as a mechanical being with my emotional responses turned down i doubt if i would try.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 01, 2006, 09:31:31 PM
A quick note about emotion jamming, I think the point that's going fweee by folks 'cept e is that emotion jamming might involve magic to lower the magical defensive field in order to start the jam.  In other words, a being might not be able to do it because they wouldn't have the magic to lower that field and start jamming in the first place.  Just a theory, yes but that's what I was trying to explain.

I think e got it though because he mentions Dan.  Dan could be responsible subconciously because for some reason, he could be breaking down Abel's shield.  I don't know why he'd be doing that but it's possible.

So all I'm saying is that this is my theory, that's why I thought Abel wasn't being jammed up with emotions, simply because his barriers would've been up (according to my theory) and unless they'd been hit by a magical attack from Dan, they'd still be up and any torrent of emotion just wouldn't get past said barriers.

The thing with Jyrras is that a being is naturally immune to the emotion thing because they don't absorb emotions as food.  However, Cubi do and this is why Cubis use magical shields.

Again, just a theory but I'm just trying to explain myself, 'ere.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 01, 2006, 09:33:55 PM
Good point you have there Rowne
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 09:40:53 PM
i agree. Well said.  as for why Dan would do it and how? well Dan is not use to his cubi powers and abilities like when his wings miss behave. Or  like when he lets others read his thoughts. he could be screaming with fear and pain with his mind and the emotions coupled with what Able saw and the fear/ cartons that others who've seen Alexi mad before could have over whelmed Able's shield and left holes in it that he wouldn't notice due to his own fear over the sibling brutality he's witnessed.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 09:51:43 PM
Another thing people should remember is that the way it's been presented to us, one would have to actually focus on the task with some effort to do it..
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 09:56:17 PM
was Able really concentrating or was he distracting Dan so he wouldn't fight back? it's narrow line that fan interpretations make uncertain
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 09:57:49 PM
Well, a distraction wouldn't have that much effect. You'd have to know what you're doing to impose something like that on someone... It can't just be possible without it.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 10:08:25 PM
may i remind you of the "my wings tried to make me coffee" incident in which Dan automatically searched out and found what he was looking with out intend to do so. he also heals himself using either magic or cubi energy derived form absorbing emotions. other you don't need to know what you're doing to do something once. I have been a prefect example of that more then once in my life so I know it to be true. and on top of that that are those with talents that they don't understand like the child born with perfect recall or a photographic memory.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 10:15:00 PM
What do the wings have to do with it? the wings already have a separate "consciousness" or whatever you call it. absorbing emotions is also a base level cubi thing that they don't really have. I read demonology, I think I know what cubi would have as skills or basic "instinctual" functions
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 01, 2006, 10:28:34 PM
you don't need to be taught to know how to scream in pain. screaming with your body or screaming with your mind it's an automatic response to being hurt. all emotion jamming does is focus on one emotion and try to slip it past the shield of another. Fear and pain also focuses emotions and are often magnified as well.  If some one was hurting you and you know that they could hurt you more. that they was just warming up for real pain. then your fear would Blair out of your mind to any thought or emotion sensitive entity. If you have magical ability that you don't know how to use then there's a chance that you'll use them in times of stress. I E Dan could be blast out fear and pain in al directions including Able's and could have bash his shield with out know what he's doing. Talk more when I arrive at my destination in 2-3hours.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 01, 2006, 10:33:40 PM
Unless you're Amber, which you aren't, I'm not going to listen to any of your made-up theory crap, and stick to what's written, and logic for assumptions.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Azlan on September 01, 2006, 11:51:27 PM
Knock off the hating...

Anyways, who said Dan's blood was pink... then there's that gay fuel reference someone made.  It is very well illustrated that dan's blood is rather red...

Gay Fuel... I wish my car could run on that.  I always wanted a vehicle that was well groomed and even tempered...
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 12:02:22 AM
Quote from: Azlan on September 01, 2006, 11:51:27 PM
Gay Fuel... I wish my car could run on that. I always wanted a vehicle that was well groomed and even tempered...


LOL sounds cool I wish I had a car that would run on that. I wonder what kind of MPH it would get.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 02, 2006, 12:23:41 AM
Quote from: Azlan on September 01, 2006, 11:51:27 PM
Gay Fuel... I wish my car could run on that.  I always wanted a vehicle that was well groomed and even tempered...

You know I wish my care ran on gay fuel too... wait but don't I run on gay fuel? 

oh gods the conflict, 
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 12:30:15 AM
that's part of what makes you special hare. you can debate imagery things with out stressing out and taking it to the limit. gee i wonder what kind of fuel i run on. it can't be Bassium as that's too weak
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: AmigaDragon on September 02, 2006, 12:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 08:27:38 AM
Abel is a capable seamstress
"He's a capable seamstress"? That would be like saying "he's a waitress" or "she's a waiter". Get your gender-specific terms straight... "he's a capable tailor".
Or is his chest-fur color pattern throwing you off on that?  :mowwink
EDIT: Was Abel teased in school because of that feature?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 12:40:08 AM
now now lets not start more strife okay?
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 01:04:37 AM
Nothings break my strife....Nothing is gonna slow me down..Oh no..I gotta keep moving.... :laugh :P
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 01:07:31 AM
Quote from: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 01:04:37 AM
Nothings break my strife....Nothing is gonna slow me down..Oh no..I gotta keep moving.... :laugh :P
before my feet can tought the ground. i knowthats not how it goes but it was so temptiong.
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ShiningShadow on September 02, 2006, 01:20:35 AM
I know it's fun to start hating here but let's not get too fare on this. I know I'm a newbie here but I think the discussion at hand should be intelligent and responded adultly. I'm very easy going guy and I never say anything in retaliation and hurt's one's feelings and chance to voice a different opinion here. I always believe if there's a opinion is different then that's them just go on and be big about it. I hope my words help if not here some *BOOGA, BOOGA* :laugh :laugh :laugh.......
Title: Re: 8/31/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 02, 2006, 04:44:23 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on September 02, 2006, 12:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2006, 08:27:38 AM
Abel is a capable seamstress
"He's a capable seamstress"? That would be like saying "he's a waitress" or "she's a waiter". Get your gender-specific terms straight... "he's a capable tailor".

You registered an account just for that?  >:3

Quote
Or is his chest-fur color pattern throwing you off on that?  :mowwink
EDIT: Was Abel teased in school because of that feature?

Granted Abel isn't the most masculine character in DMFA, but the actual problem is I've seen the word used in that way before.  Checking with the OED it seems to be wrong, so I've changed it.

I'm guessing Abel learned to work with cloth at SAIA, which is more of a university than a school.  However, since he came from a medieval background he would have a basic ability to repair clothing anyway.

**EDIT**
Oh, and I like the EV/Rowne theory of emotion jamming.
Title: Re: Aug 31. Shock n' Awe
Post by: Regal on September 02, 2006, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: Roureem Egas on August 31, 2006, 09:19:09 PM
I see no poptart with Abel. On one of the other rats, yeah. But not Abel.

How many morbid, creepy Mythos out there feel the need to have a skin removal spell?  D:

Hey, skin switching is a fun cubi prank! But first you have to get the skin off.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 01:45:13 PM
Sounds delightful...Hey can I borrow your flesh Jak?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 02, 2006, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 01:45:13 PM
Sounds delightful...Hey can I borrow your flesh Jak?

Why, do you want to swap?  You go first...*


*  But don't let the thread degenerate into an RP.. please..
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 02:05:54 PM
Dont worry I wont but most ablitys of a cubi sound great ya know?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 02:25:33 PM
strange. why not just build spare bodies to swap into?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: KarlOmega1 on September 02, 2006, 02:26:34 PM
If Dan's blood was pink...I'd think he'd be Klingon...

Yes, I have seen "Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country"....

Edit> *Imagines Dan as a furry Klingon*

Dan *in Klingon language*: What the heck?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
That wpould cost moneys and plus note making artifial life forms is kinda illegal you must rember that....If I am rember as well right...Jak?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
making life is illegal making spare bodies is grey. besaide thats how i picked up my body
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 02, 2006, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
making life is illegal making spare bodies is grey. besaide thats how i picked up my body

I think creating sentience is the problem.  If you created a mindless/soulless body to transfer your consciousness into, that would probably not be as frowned upon as creating a whole new person.

**EDIT**

Quote from: Zedd on September 02, 2006, 02:05:54 PM
most ablitys of a cubi sound great ya know?

Indeed.  That's probably one of the fascinating things about DMFA - everything in it 'works'.  The artwork, the storyline, the races.. I find it engaging on so many levels.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 03:27:41 PM
nods that how i look at ait. color just close enogh to the line that people can't tell if you've gone over it.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 02, 2006, 03:45:46 PM
The fascinating thing about DMFA is that, despite the cubi skills being massive, in comparison to your average Beings'... They still haven't utterly taken over.


... and we have yet to see why. It's just... one of those things. Same goes for all the other Creature races - any one of them would utterly take over any number of Beings... but haven't.

Is it because all the Creatures fight each other - Cubi's hate the Demons, Demons hate the Angels, Angels hate the Mythos, and around and around, all holding each other in check, in a dynamic balance? It sure doesn't look like it, from Dan's willingness to cuddle up to Matilda, or even consider it... Or Lorenda and Jyrras... or Edward and Destania, for that matter.

Whatever it is, it's got to be subtle, otherwise it would have broken by now.

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop. :-)
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 03:49:31 PM
be careful what you wish for because shoe's tend to drop pretty hard. espilly around here... or was that new york?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Azlan on September 02, 2006, 04:49:45 PM
Maybe nobody really wants overt control of the world... I imagine it would be quite the bother.  Just think of all those annoying different races poking at you all the time. 

Now shadow control of the world is better, you don't have to worry about being an obvious target and with good manipulation you can make people do what you want because they think they want to do with it.  If it works here on Earth, it should be reasonably viable on Furrae, there's just a lot more strange powers, abilities and racial issues to consider.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 05:06:26 PM
well that would explain the council that Kira reported to. and Azlan has a point only a few true leaders could govern the world and most of them aren't real.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 02, 2006, 05:26:02 PM
Intelligent folk deciding the world is more trouble to rule than otherwise doesn't stop megalomaniacs wanting to rule it all.

Just look at Bush.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 05:36:45 PM
bush with intells? i know he has the luther egon and insant but when did he upgrade his braind ? i thougth it was still blockbuster / grundy level
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on September 02, 2006, 05:54:22 PM
Riviting political discussion, only on The Internet!
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 06:35:02 PM
lol. bill for planetary Governor
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 02, 2006, 06:55:23 PM
Palpatine for President!

... why not, he can hardly be worse than what you guys have already...
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 07:03:13 PM
oh he's worse al right. he's compataint
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Amber Williams on September 02, 2006, 07:55:47 PM
Guys. Knock the Bush bashing.

I don't care what a person's political opinion is, and people are more than free to discuss their political platforms on general.  Honestly an intelligent discussion on a person's ethics when voting for a polititian come election-time would be refreshing and encouraged.  But if all you are gonna do is go "LAWL. Bush sux.  He so stooopid.", its a waste of time and post count.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on September 02, 2006, 07:57:16 PM
It's OK, we're so forked in the 2006 elections, anyway. I'm a sad, evil little Republican.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on September 02, 2006, 07:57:37 PM
What I fiond facinating is the whole list of possibilities that this entales. If Alexi can beat the snot out of dan that Implies that she too might have some demonic heretige.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on September 02, 2006, 07:58:19 PM
I'd personally file that under S.O.D.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 02, 2006, 08:03:58 PM
Sorry, Amber. My bad. :-/ I'll remain shtum about him in the future.

Nice thought, there, GT. OTOH, she might just be using "big sister" rules.

You know the thing I mean - there's a short excerpt about it in a book, where the protagonist is explaining how he had a horse he's had from birth - the horses, not his - and his Grandad had him pick up the horse when the horse was young. Ever since then, the horse has always thought his owner was bigger than him - even after the horse grew up. Bigger siblings do that with younger sibs - beat up on them when they're young, and for many years after that, they get an automtic bonus in all fights, since the younger sib doesn't expect to win.

And as Granny Weatherwax could tell you, going into a fight knowing you're going to lose is just asking fo it to become true. :-)


Besides, perhaps Alexsi just has a sadistic streak? Nothing wrong with that, in moderation...

Bill: S. O. D.?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Amber Williams on September 02, 2006, 08:10:05 PM
Blunt and might sound callous-time:

Alexsi is hands down one of the hardest characters to write for.  I do have stuff planned for her, but a lot of it has been pushed back and/or toned down. This is partially due to the fact that she was one of the characters originally belonging to someone else.  The other partially being that the owner passed away.  I wont lie in saying there is a particular stress involved when you are using the character of a dead friend.  Not only because I can't really get permission to do this or that or ask for feedback in the use of the character, but also because I feel if I use the character wrongly I would be doing a disservice to her.

That said, it is also for those reasons I decided not to just write Alexsi out of the comic.  Not really in a morbid homage type thing...but I do think that the real Alexsi would have liked to continue on in the comic.  However, most the characters in DMFA have or are taking directions away from the real life players...and Alexsi is no exception.  I did delay a bit of Alexsi's focus after the death because I didn't want to have it feel like now that Alexsi's character was in my control I was going to go crazy on it.

I guess what I'm saying is that Alexsi's lack of character depth in the comic was my fault because I held back from doing much with Alexsi until I felt it would be a proper time to start things up.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 08:48:16 PM
yes amber you're right. like it or not he is in office. (yes i did vote) the problem is that people focus either on what some one has done wrong or what they have done right.. i hear more about whats been done wrong that what has gone right.  after seeing so much negative and have some of it affect me(like school funding) it's imposable for me to stay impartial.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Amber Williams on September 02, 2006, 09:11:55 PM
Like I said, I don't mind if people have an opinion about politics.  If someone feels their current leader is doing a sucktastic job, then that is their right to feel so.  It's just there is a difference between people going. "I feel that this political figure is doing a poor job because the economy is down and there are multiple platforms I disagree with him on and its affecting the standard of living of many." and "Bush is a stupid-head.  He'd be as evil as a fictional Star Wars character except that he is STOOPID."
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on September 02, 2006, 09:31:32 PM
 well to change the focus back to the comic, I just noticed the Black rat sleeping in Abel's lap. It would seem that abel has made a new family.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 02, 2006, 09:45:44 PM
Whilst it must be hard, I see what you're doing as a well-meant homage, Amber.  I truly respect what you're doing, there.

As for Abel, I hope he has formed ties with the Ratties.  I likes the Ratties, they're awesome.  This might mean that they may get a chance to feature more prominently in the comic and we'd get to learn more about them.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 02, 2006, 09:50:07 PM
Wow Ms Amber thats got to be hard.
But I think your doing a good job with her.

I loves the ratties myself.  I love the sleeping one.  I've got plans for him myself but thats beside the point
*giggles*
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: bill on September 02, 2006, 09:52:20 PM
Don't make me come over there.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: e_voyager on September 02, 2006, 09:52:26 PM
homage? to what Rowne. i have an ideal but i dobut it
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 02, 2006, 09:57:04 PM
Gah e, tact, tact!  I suppose I'll have to explain myself, now.

I know how difficult it can be to pay proper respects to the dearly departed but to give them homage in one's works is a nice way to do it.  I know I'd like it.  Being remembered in works writ is a form of immortality, after all.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: thegayhare on September 02, 2006, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on September 02, 2006, 09:52:20 PM
Don't make me come over there.

you don't have to my plans are not naughty in any way
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 02, 2006, 10:05:08 PM
On a lighter note ...

I wonder if Abel might end up a bit traumatized by the experience in the comic and convinced that he's one of the Rats, destined never to leave the basement again.  That'd certainly give him an excuse to be a little crazy and funny and to feature the Ratties.

In times of hardship, one often bonds with those that help them.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Kenji on September 02, 2006, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Rowne on September 02, 2006, 10:05:08 PM
On a lighter note ...

I wonder if Abel might end up a bit traumatized by the experience in the comic and convinced that he's one of the Rats, destined never to leave the basement again.  That'd certainly give him an excuse to be a little crazy and funny and to feature the Ratties.

In times of hardship, one often bonds with those that help them.

Hmm. A little spotted basement rat.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 02, 2006, 10:17:13 PM
It'd be so adorable.  It'd also mean that Dan would lose his entire supply of poptarts, most likely.

Abel.  ...are you feeling alright?

I like poptarts!

...riiiiiight.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ShiningShadow on September 03, 2006, 01:49:44 AM
Quote from: KarlOmega1 on September 02, 2006, 02:26:34 PM
If Dan's blood was pink...I'd think he'd be Klingon...

Yes, I have seen "Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country"....

Edit> *Imagines Dan as a furry Klingon*

Dan *in Klingon language*: What the heck?

I could imagine Dan speaking Klingonese and doing that mating ritual with you being rough with the female Klingon before making love. I say WHAT THE HECK But I will laugh my butt off :laugh :laugh :laugh....
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Supercheese on September 03, 2006, 02:01:48 AM
(http://www.booksrevisited.com/booksrev/images/items/275x1000/067174559X.jpg)

http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm

...
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ShiningShadow on September 03, 2006, 02:10:56 AM
Quote from: Supercheese on September 03, 2006, 02:01:48 AM
(http://www.booksrevisited.com/booksrev/images/items/275x1000/067174559X.jpg)

http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm

...

That's cool I haven't seen that book in a very long time. I think there's new book out there with the updated language for the Kligon's. Or maybe I'm touched by crazy :help...........
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 03, 2006, 02:17:14 AM
Oh lordy, that thing.

Believe this tale or not, as you will.  When I was a spritely youth, I had a Religious Education teacher that was absolutely crazy about Star Trek.  The class would frequently get to watch Science Fiction marathons (mostly Trek) at breaks and stuff, if they wanted to.  Of course, I did because I was a total geek back then (and I still am).

One day, this teacher decided to bring into school a bunch of Trek paraphernalia.  One of these items was the audio book version of the Klingon dictionary.  I still have fond memories of everyone in the class suffering fits of giggles as Worf described how Klingon mating ritual growls worked.  Actually, I'm not sure whether that memory would be considered fond or just scarring but still, it was funny stuff.

And I never want to hear Dan doing a Klingon mating ritual growl.  Ever.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ShiningShadow on September 03, 2006, 02:52:18 AM
Quote from: Rowne on September 03, 2006, 02:17:14 AM
Oh lordy, that thing.

Believe this tale or not, as you will.  When I was a spritely youth, I had a Religious Education teacher that was absolutely crazy about Star Trek.  The class would frequently get to watch Science Fiction marathons (mostly Trek) at breaks and stuff, if they wanted to.  Of course, I did because I was a total geek back then (and I still am).

One day, this teacher decided to bring into school a bunch of Trek paraphernalia.  One of these items was the audio book version of the Klingon dictionary.  I still have fond memories of everyone in the class suffering fits of giggles as Worf described how Klingon mating ritual growls worked.  Actually, I'm not sure whether that memory would be considered fond or just scarring but still, it was funny stuff.

And I never want to hear Dan doing a Klingon mating ritual growl.  Ever.

AWWWWWWW why not it will be funny as heck. Imagine Dan get the vowel of the growl wrong BAM his house in a blood fued  :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh. I'm cracking up for that alone........
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 05:33:55 AM
Returning to the subject of Alexsi, while researching Creature longevity I found this frame and just had to blow it up.

(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/conversions/alexsi3.png)

Technical data follows

This picture also serves as an experiment in image restoration/remastering.  The image was doubled with cubic interpolation, and then filtered with GreyCstoration to reduce most of the JPEG damage.  That left fringes, mostly in the sky, which I painted out manually.  If you look closely at Mab's antennae I overshot slightly.
I was tempted to leave it there but then had a brainwave.  Since most of the colouring is solid, it could be redone colour by colour using select-by-colour and flood fill.  This image is the result - I'll look into writing a GIMP script to automate most of the process.

As you can see, the line of text at the bottom is mangled, so if this was done on a larger scale the strips would have to be re-captioned.  Although since there are a couple with typos in them anyway, that's not necessarily a disaster.

For comparison, the original scaled JPEG is here: http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/conversions/alexsi0.png
..and the strip is #308.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on September 03, 2006, 05:40:21 AM
It looks like a regular pic, just blurred. Nicely done, though is thre really any point in doing so?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 05:45:52 AM
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on September 03, 2006, 05:40:21 AM
It looks like a regular pic, just blurred. Nicely done, though is thre really any point in doing so?

Just checking, did you compare the before and after images?

Anyway, these are my reasons:

1. I cannot stand JPEG noise
2. I'm curious about the feasibility of producing printable images, and the original resolution is too small.  This one is double-size.
3. The high-res masters are all lost
4. Alexsi's "I'm gonna kill you, Mab" expression is priceless
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 07:26:07 AM
I think number 4 is the critical point, there :-)

Damn. That's some good work, there, TW.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 08:47:30 AM
Oh noes! I rather not be stranggled by any big sister or anything man! Specialy midgits
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Rowne on September 03, 2006, 08:52:32 AM
I'd have to agree, I'm a neophyte with the Gimp and whilst I have some skills, they're not much good.  I tried tackling bad Jpeg compression before and failed, badly.  So I know how awesome a feat that is, from firsthand experience.

If only everyone used the PNG format.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on September 03, 2006, 08:54:27 AM
PNG is teh sexy, it shall rule the world! :O
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 08:57:18 AM
PNG wants Hazzys soul!
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 03, 2006, 09:00:49 AM
And yet there are still people who say JPG and Gif are superior to PNG. For whatever reason, we'll never know.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 09:01:45 AM
PNG already has it. Hazzy has just borrowed it back for the duration... :-)
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 09:04:33 AM
Mmm sweet...Would he need it play rugby?
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ITOS on September 03, 2006, 09:06:44 AM
Only problem with PNG is that it displays incorrectly in some web browsers (i.e. IE). :<
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 09:07:14 AM
Of course not. Rugby players have no souls. Everyone knows that. :-)


*hides from the All Blacks*
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 09:09:26 AM
Thats the second that raises alot questions about your char....How can a box hide?  :erk
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Aridas on September 03, 2006, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: ITOS on September 03, 2006, 09:06:44 AM
Only problem with PNG is that it displays incorrectly in some web browsers (i.e. IE). :<

If you're talking about transparency, yeah. Otherwise... JPG doesn't have transparancy, period. so PNG wins. I think PNG shows correctly in IE7, but I don't have any nearby PNGs to test.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 09:14:42 AM
Quote from: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 09:09:26 AM
Thats the second that raises alot questions about your char....How can a box hide?  :erk

In plain sight, of course. The Purloined Letter wins, hands down.


Or you can go hide in a stack of other boxes, but then you've got to talk to that smelly cousin who every wishes would go hide under a truck or play with Sheridan or something...
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on September 03, 2006, 09:17:50 AM
Teehee, ITOS made a funny. xD  (i.e. IE)
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Zedd on September 03, 2006, 09:18:22 AM
Yeah hide till I trip and cringle one your sides again
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: Rowne on September 03, 2006, 08:52:32 AM
I'd have to agree, I'm a neophyte with the Gimp and whilst I have some skills, they're not much good.  I tried tackling bad Jpeg compression before and failed, badly.  So I know how awesome a feat that is, from firsthand experience.

If only everyone used the PNG format.

Indeed.  I offered Amber a not inconsiderable sum for the high-res masters, mainly so that I could get my mitts on the strips prior to the JPEG process - only to learn that most of them were already gone (before the disk crash even).  Hence my interest in image reconstruction. 

This is the JPEG reduction algorithm I've been using on most of my edits:
http://www.greyc.ensicaen.fr/~dtschump/greycstoration/
There is a plugin for Gimp, although it may only work on Linux.  I can't remember now.  It does blur the image rather, although it you do it on a double-sized image and then scale it back down the blurring is somewhat reduced.

By the way, I have now perfected a script-fu script to purify the currently selected colour - this speeds up the process immensely.  If anyone is interested I can share it with them.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on September 03, 2006, 11:30:10 AM
nice, I like how the image turned out.
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 11:09:13 AM
By the way, I have now perfected a script-fu script to purify the currently selected colour - this speeds up the process immensely.  If anyone is interested I can share it with them.

I'm interested, but I have no use for it at present, so I'll get back to you later, ok? :-)
Title: Re: 09/01/06 Shock n' Awe
Post by: ShiningShadow on September 03, 2006, 07:04:37 PM
TW that's cool. You are a natural with the hi-tech wizardy I commend you. It's soo cool I never realize it exsistence till you pointed it out to us.