What kind of savages do we take undead for anyways?
:veryevil
It appears the undead are worried about their survival in general since Dark Pegasus swore to remove them from existence. Since he's a Soulstealer it doesn't matter what Soulstealer is visiting the island, that's one too many for some.
Kria, you better be on a diplomatic or peaceful mission or I foresee a lot of fighting. Then again, after having your luggage destroyed like that you probably aren't that happy and heads might fly even for that. Make sure the heads fly farther than 100 feet if you want to be effective.
Ree! Nooooooo!
Yikes, what's next; kidnapping Lorenda and demanding Kria never visit the undead island ever again or else? <: C
...Would they even know about Lorenda?
...*imagines the scenerio where a slim horse being standing next to Lorenda gets kidnapped instead*
Yep.
Welp.
I know what fanfiction I'll be writing this week.
~K. *: )
Savages with a poor sense of timing, clearly.
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
Savages with a poor sense of timing, clearly.
Eh, timing may be off, but the tactics to take down a threat as powerful as Kria seem to be spot on.
Best shot to take down someone who can turn their skin diamond hard, is to take them out when they never see it coming. Kria's expression tells me she never saw that coming.
I bet she sees it coming NOW.
QuoteYikes, what's next; kidnapping Lorenda and demanding Kria never visit the undead island ever again or else? <: C
Take a hostage from someone whose traditional response to minor annoyance is to destroy cities. Well gosh, I can't see ANY way THAT would go wrong, do you? :rolleyes
Kria almost seems...
No, strike that.. she looks Definitely eager over the idea of death-threats... like, "Woo-hoo! Finally some excitment!" :eager
Quote from: Wanderer on April 15, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
I bet she sees it coming NOW.
QuoteYikes, what's next; kidnapping Lorenda and demanding Kria never visit the undead island ever again or else? <: C
Take a hostage from someone whose traditional response to minor annoyance is to destroy cities. Well gosh, I can't see ANY way THAT would go wrong, do you? :rolleyes
Are you calling me dumb, or the hypothetical kidnappers I made up, dumb?
Its hard to tell on the internet.
~K.
Quote from: Les on April 15, 2013, 01:47:09 AM
Kria almost seems...
No, strike that.. she looks Definitely eager over the idea of death-threats... like, "Woo-hoo! Finally some excitment!" :eager
Whether she'll still be as eager now is another matter. Demon or no, that bomb would most likely have offed her. Demons love fights and shows of strength or power, but that was more of a sneak attack and she may consider it a grave affront.
EDIT:
And now I have visions of Kria wandering all around the island with booby-traps going off just behind her like Inspector Clouseau in 'A Shot In The Dark'.
NUUUUUUU! The zombies have access to car bombs! We're doomed!
Although, was that explosion magical or technological?
Trik'na island, home to 30,000 29,998 undead...
Sherri: My life just flashed before my eyes! Again!
Quote from: Eboreg on April 15, 2013, 05:10:39 AM
NUUUUUUU! The zombies have access to car bombs! We're doomed!
Although, was that explosion magical or technological?
Carriage bombs. :P
and magical vs chemical is a good question.. that boom seems a bit big to be done with black powder, so either someone other than Jyrras has been playing around with more advanced stuff, or there was a major magical aspect involved.
Quote from: mithril on April 15, 2013, 06:11:31 AM
Quote from: Eboreg on April 15, 2013, 05:10:39 AM
NUUUUUUU! The zombies have access to car bombs! We're doomed!
Although, was that explosion magical or technological?
Carriage bombs. :P
and magical vs chemical is a good question.. that boom seems a bit big to be done with black powder, so either someone other than Jyrras has been playing around with more advanced stuff, or there was a major magical aspect involved.
It is mentioned that flint lock guns do exist, but are just not used, thus there is black gunpowder or some alternative, and believe me, even a good 1 KG of Gunpowder CAN make quite the explosion..... *hides suspicious table in the garage with ..stuff.. on it*
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
Savages with a poor sense of timing, clearly.
Their timing may be poor, but at least their survival instincts well developed!
I am a little surprised at how powerful the explosives are. I would have though that sort of thing would only be found in Jyrrus' secret lab. Unless these explosives are more magical than chemical in nature.
Quote from: joshofspam on April 15, 2013, 12:43:18 AM
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
Savages with a poor sense of timing, clearly.
Eh, timing may be off, but the tactics to take down a threat as powerful as Kria seem to be spot on.
Best shot to take down someone who can turn their skin diamond hard, is to take them out when they never see it coming. Kria's expression tells me she never saw that coming.
To cite Meany, Treachery requires no mistakes.
Especially if the target is still powerful.
Makes me wonder what sort of triggering mechanism there was. If a timed bomb . . . I mean, the best way for it to blow would have likely been mid-flight.
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 07:51:31 AM
Makes me wonder what sort of triggering mechanism there was. If a timed bomb . . . I mean, the best way for it to blow would have likely been mid-flight.
Well, the explosion appeared to happen at the same time as Ree put Kria's luggage on the carriage...a pressure switch perhaps?
Edit:
Perhaps some sort of remote detonation? A fire based spell would be useful if the explosive was spark/heat sensitive.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 15, 2013, 04:17:23 AM
Quote from: Les on April 15, 2013, 01:47:09 AM
Kria almost seems...
No, strike that.. she looks Definitely eager over the idea of death-threats... like, "Woo-hoo! Finally some excitment!" :eager
Whether she'll still be as eager now is another matter. Demon or no, that bomb would most likely have offed her. Demons love fights and shows of strength or power, but that was more of a sneak attack and she may consider it a grave affront.
Eh.... I'm not so sure. I mean, demons are pretty resistant to fire and physical blows... which is pretty much all you get out of a conventional explosion. Might've really pissed her off, though.
QuoteEDIT:
And now I have visions of Kria wandering all around the island with booby-traps going off just behind her like Inspector Clouseau in 'A Shot In The Dark'.
I've got a vision of Kria poking at things she knows are traps, just to set them off to see what they're going to try next. For example:
"OOohhhh... a ticking present. Let's see, since this package is far smaller than that carriage, the explosion is probably going to also be smaller. So, let's see what they think they can do this time..."
"Ahh, that was a nice, smooth drink. The hemlock was a nice touch. Could've used a bit more cyanide, though"
"Awww, look. It's got a sledgehammer. How
cute! Oh, and he looks like he wants to play. You know, I've never been one for necrophilia before, but you're really tempting me boy..."
Quote from: Prroul on April 15, 2013, 09:46:47 AM
Eh.... I'm not so sure. I mean, demons are pretty resistant to fire and physical blows... which is pretty much all you get out of a conventional explosion. Might've really pissed her off, though.
I'm not completely sure, but I think Demons have to deliberately (or instinctively) harden their skin. Catch them unawares and they'll probably go down like anyone else if you hit them with enough force.
Quote from: Plotting on April 15, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 07:51:31 AM
Makes me wonder what sort of triggering mechanism there was. If a timed bomb . . . I mean, the best way for it to blow would have likely been mid-flight.
Well, the explosion appeared to happen at the same time as Ree put Kria's luggage on the carriage...a pressure switch perhaps?
Edit:
Perhaps some sort of remote detonation? A fire based spell would be useful if the explosive was spark/heat sensitive.
That's the thing. Why'd you fail that hard at remote detonation?
Unless it was intended as a warning, inexplicably. Or a third-party trying to spark a fight.
It could have just been a simple timer detonator attached to a clock. That could explain detonating at the wrong time.
I once heard of a terrorist who set up a bomb hooked up to a watch, set the detonation time, put it into a car, drove the car into another country, and then had the whole thing blow up while he was still on the road because he'd forgotten to taken into account time zone differences.
Quote from: KV1NN4 on April 15, 2013, 03:35:13 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on April 15, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
I bet she sees it coming NOW.
QuoteYikes, what's next; kidnapping Lorenda and demanding Kria never visit the undead island ever again or else? <: C
Take a hostage from someone whose traditional response to minor annoyance is to destroy cities. Well gosh, I can't see ANY way THAT would go wrong, do you? :rolleyes
Are you calling me dumb, or the hypothetical kidnappers I made up, dumb?
Its hard to tell on the internet.
~K.
I don't usually try to insult other people unless they've done something to deserve it, so that would be the hypothetical kidnappers.
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: Plotting on April 15, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
Quote from: VAE on April 15, 2013, 07:51:31 AM
Makes me wonder what sort of triggering mechanism there was. If a timed bomb . . . I mean, the best way for it to blow would have likely been mid-flight.
Well, the explosion appeared to happen at the same time as Ree put Kria's luggage on the carriage...a pressure switch perhaps?
Edit:
Perhaps some sort of remote detonation? A fire based spell would be useful if the explosive was spark/heat sensitive.
That's the thing. Why'd you fail that hard at remote detonation?
Unless it was intended as a warning, inexplicably. Or a third-party trying to spark a fight.
Of coarse on the flip side of that, maybe they were expecting Kria to be that much closer to the cart. It seemed like they were taking quite a few more processes to this threat.
The disturbing thing to this is that the whole luggage thing makes it seem that what ever it was, it was delivered at the begging of her trip. So the third party does sound likely.
One thing we can be clear on, if they were prioritizing Kria's destruction, it's silly that they ended up just destorying her vehicle. That's putting the cart before the horse.
Quote from: Sofox on April 15, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
It could have just been a simple timer detonator attached to a clock. That could explain detonating at the wrong time.
I once heard of a terrorist who set up a bomb hooked up to a watch, set the detonation time, put it into a car, drove the car into another country, and then had the whole thing blow up while he was still on the road because he'd forgotten to taken into account time zone differences.
http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-38.html It was this incident. And yeah, time zone error might be just it.
Quote from: Sofox on April 15, 2013, 02:00:42 PM
One thing we can be clear on, if they were prioritizing Kria's destruction, it's silly that they ended up just destorying her vehicle. That's putting the cart before the horse.
Oh, you're bad! >:3
I hope the explosion didn't re-kill Ree... We hardly got to know them!
Quote from: Sofox on April 15, 2013, 02:00:42 PM
One thing we can be clear on, if they were prioritizing Kria's destruction, it's silly that they ended up just destorying her vehicle. That's putting the cart before the horse.
Given how un-coordinated this attack was, wouldn't it be more correct to say that they put Descartes before de horse?
[gdrlh!]
Quote from: Sofox on April 15, 2013, 02:00:42 PM
One thing we can be clear on, if they were prioritizing Kria's destruction, it's silly that they ended up just destorying her vehicle. That's putting the cart before the horse.
*wince*
My work here is done.
*shakes her paddle*
Making bad puns? Thats a paddlin'. >:[
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 15, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
*shakes her paddle*
Making bad puns? Thats a paddlin'. >:[
So you're saying nobody should be able to make bad puns with impunity?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 15, 2013, 09:52:36 AM
Quote from: Prroul on April 15, 2013, 09:46:47 AM
Eh.... I'm not so sure. I mean, demons are pretty resistant to fire and physical blows... which is pretty much all you get out of a conventional explosion. Might've really pissed her off, though.
I'm not completely sure, but I think Demons have to deliberately (or instinctively) harden their skin. Catch them unawares and they'll probably go down like anyone else if you hit them with enough force.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_99.php Yeaaah~ theres a difference between resistance and immunity so if this is any indication, an exploding cart could have done her in ^^;
Also, if we didnt know dark pegasus was off listening to a flashback i would have totally assumed he was behind this and trying to spark a war against the undead ^^;
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 15, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
*shakes her paddle*
Making bad puns? Thats a paddlin'. >:[
Being mean Amber. Thats a paddlin'.
Stealing tacos. Thats a paddlin'.
A paddlin'? You better believe that's a paddlin'.
ouch, talk about rough timing (points at Boston marathon) :mowdizzy
I'm not so sure the incident in Boston is bad timing so much as the "I regret nothing" underneath it.
But it did give me something to write about in review tonight. ^^;; Yes, I am mercenary. (And hey, I think that news events shouldn't dissuade storylines.)
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 15, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
*shakes her paddle*
Making bad puns? Thats a paddlin'. >:[
Somehow, I don't think this will
discourage certain quarters...
Quote from: Tangent on April 15, 2013, 10:04:18 PM(And hey, I think that news events shouldn't dissuade storylines.)
Especially since this strip was posted a few hours
before the marathon attack.
Cracked has (temporarily?) taken a recent article down due to the incident, but that
A: Is about the real world, and
B: Isn't part of an ongoing storyline.
Having just gotten back in from being kind of in my own world for the day, I can confirm that
A: The update (and rant) happened well before the events that happened today
B: It's really an unfortunate coincidence.
However I did alter the rant underneath because I do feel somewhat bad about that and the possible implications it could have. That said, the story is pretty much pre-done days in advance so it would be really difficult to just up and change gears. I suppose in this case the show must go on in the comic itself.
Quote from: Tangent on April 15, 2013, 10:04:18 PM
I'm not so sure the incident in Boston is bad timing so much as the "I regret nothing" underneath it.
But it did give me something to write about in review tonight. ^^;; Yes, I am mercenary. (And hey, I think that news events shouldn't dissuade storylines.)
She posted the comic, with the update, hours before the incident. Taken out of context, if the incident is on your mind, you could assume the comment corralates.. but only if you think Amber is an insensitive jerk about these types of things; she is not.
What she doesn't regret is the fact Ree is/was adorable before being in dire need of being stitched back together.
~K.
edit:
Aaaand she's changed the comment now anyway. Just... noticed. ¬.¬
I actually commented on the forum hoping Amber would change her comment - just to avoid anyone taking offense.
If I do write a Commentary article, it would not be negative in any way. Instead, I'd be pointing out that writers would have to avoid entire plot concepts out of the sheer POSSIBILITY of something happening that would have naysayers going "too soon" or the like. Heck, I live half an hour from Boston. This comic did not offend me. And I'm damn glad Amber kept the comic up.
Quote from: Tangent on April 16, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
Heck, I live half an hour from Boston. This comic did not offend me. And I'm damn glad Amber kept the comic up.
Likewise, likewise, and likewise.
There's only so much an author can do about comics they've already created without crippling their ability to create anything, after all. What it comes down to in this case is if the comic is objectionable on its own, irrespective of recent events. If we didn't think the comic was a problem when it went up (and I didn't see anyone objecting at the time), then I'd say it's perfectly fine to leave it up.
If we're talking about real world reactions, I have to confess I found the comic slightly unnerving given that car bombs were frequently used in civil unrest in an area geographically close to where I live. Not that unnerved since I was (thankfully) never directly affected by it or knew many people who were (Northern Ireland feels like a different country in many respect, including the fact it technically is another country), and clearly I was still able to make lighthearted posts and terrible puns in response so it's not that bad and we've had peace for many years since, but that sort of stuff doesn't suddenly leave your mind just because peace has broken out.
Back to the subject of the comic proper, I just noticed something that I thought interesting. In the third panel, at the top of the hill behind Sherri, there is a glint of light. It looks like a specular reflection off of something like glass or metal. I'm likely wrong, but could it be someone looking at the scene through binoculars or a telescope? Then again, perhaps it's not a reflection, but the flash of a spell being set off. On the other tentacle, it could be something completely innocuous. Still, I wouldn't put it past Amber to sneak something significant in such that we see it but don't notice it. :mowninja
Quote from: Wanderer on April 16, 2013, 01:53:07 AM
Quote from: Tangent on April 16, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
Heck, I live half an hour from Boston. This comic did not offend me. And I'm damn glad Amber kept the comic up.
Likewise, likewise, and likewise.
There's only so much an author can do about comics they've already created without crippling their ability to create anything, after all. What it comes down to in this case is if the comic is objectionable on its own, irrespective of recent events. If we didn't think the comic was a problem when it went up (and I didn't see anyone objecting at the time), then I'd say it's perfectly fine to leave it up.
Furthermore, why should we let some arse who thought planting the bombs was a good idea cripple our culture on top of the immediate damage he did?
Quote from: Lurkie on April 16, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
In the third panel, at the top of the hill behind Sherri, there is a glint of light. It looks like a specular reflection off of something like glass or metal. I'm likely wrong, but could it be someone looking at the scene through binoculars or a telescope?
That is interesting. And yes, it's likely significant.
Quote from: Lurkie on April 16, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Back to the subject of the comic proper, I just noticed something that I thought interesting. In the third panel, at the top of the hill behind Sherri, there is a glint of light. It looks like a specular reflection off of something like glass or metal. I'm likely wrong, but could it be someone looking at the scene through binoculars or a telescope? Then again, perhaps it's not a reflection, but the flash of a spell being set off. On the other tentacle, it could be something completely innocuous. Still, I wouldn't put it past Amber to sneak something significant in such that we see it but don't notice it. :mowninja
That's a good catch! :eager When I looked closely at the last panel, I noticed a puff of smoke emanating from the same point that the flash of light was from, which could lend to the theory that it was indeed a remotely fired spell that caused the explosion, like some sort of laser.
EDIT: Perhaps it could have even been a focused beam of sunlight being aimed at heat sensitive explosives materials planted discreetly in the cart earlier, but that might be stretching it a bit. It's more likely that the explosion was triggered by something fired through the air, hence the "smoking barrel" effect afterwards.
Quote from: Lurkie on April 16, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Back to the subject of the comic proper, I just noticed something that I thought interesting. In the third panel, at the top of the hill behind Sherri, there is a glint of light. It looks like a specular reflection off of something like glass or metal. I'm likely wrong, but could it be someone looking at the scene through binoculars or a telescope? Then again, perhaps it's not a reflection, but the flash of a spell being set off. On the other tentacle, it could be something completely innocuous. Still, I wouldn't put it past Amber to sneak something significant in such that we see it but don't notice it. :mowninja
Good eyes!
I didn't notice those small details. A flash and then smoke. It does seem like something up there was most likely responsible. Though if it was magic, wouldn't it have to be a very powerful magic user to both have that range and still have that kind of punch.
Even for a standard Demon or Angel, that seems unlikely. So we must be dealing with some exceptional spell caster here. That is, if it is a spell caster.
Quote from: joshofspam on April 16, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
I didn't notice those small details. A flash and then smoke. It does seem like something up there was most likely responsible. Though if it was magic, wouldn't it have to be a very powerful magic user to both have that range and still have that kind of punch.
Even for a standard Demon or Angel, that seems unlikely. So we must be dealing with some exceptional spell caster here. That is, if it is a spell caster.
My thought is that this was probably done in two parts. The first part was a spell or incendiary device planted on the carriage. (Which could have been something like essence of fire elemental, or even gunpowder, bespelled to ignite on command.) The second part was a control spell designed to detonate the device. Thus, all the "heavy lifting" would have been done beforehand, and it wouldn't require a highly skilled or powerful mage to cast the spell. It could have been anyone on that hill, who would simply have to "push a button", so to speak, to blow up the carriage.
I will say that whoever did this has remarkably poor timing. They should have waited until Kria was in the carriage, and it had started to move. Unless they deliberately missed, and want everyone to think that they aren't very smart. But why? Trying to lure Kria into underestimating them? Maybe. (Forgive me, I tend to look for Convoluted Plots everywhere. I love watching them unfold. :) )
Pfft, obviously they weren't aiming for Kria. There true target was Ree all along.
He knows too much.
(Disclaimer: All characters are male to me unless obviously otherwise.)
Quote from: Wanderer on April 15, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
I bet she sees it coming NOW.
QuoteYikes, what's next; kidnapping Lorenda and demanding Kria never visit the undead island ever again or else? <: C
Take a hostage from someone whose traditional response to minor annoyance is to destroy cities. Well gosh, I can't see ANY way THAT would go wrong, do you? :rolleyes
Combine this suggestion with aforementioned slim horse taken by mistake and the comedy writes itself!
Undead: Soulstealer, we have your child! We demand that...
Kria: *fanged grin and bright happy eyes* LUNCH!
*undead terrorists all look horrified as offpanel Kria devours hapless horse*