Alright, this comic is one of the funniest so far, and i must say the look on wildy's face would make anyone cower in fear of the great ferret! (all we need now is merlitz coming back)
Edit: Is that a cityscape in the window of the last panel??
I'm kind of curious as to why Abel's strategy doesn't seem to include snatching their weapons away, and/or destroying them.
I am impressed with the fight scene choreography. Kudos to Amber for a dramatic yet realistic melee!
I don't know which is funnier-- Wildy's look of transcendent joy at a real fight, or Genesis's utter terror. :mwaha
I see Abel was paying attention to Brady's fighting class! Bet he got good grades!
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I'm kind of curious as to why Abel's strategy doesn't seem to include snatching their weapons away, and/or destroying them.
Because Abel was trained that way? To go for disabling the actual threat, not just the implement?
Unarmed combat and spell casting are are just two of many ways (in this universe) of attacking that do not require weapons. You knock down the attacker so he/she/it cannot switch methods and kill you while you are distracted.
I like how Abel is using his wings as arm augmentation, and also going for the bludgeoning attacks to avoid the blood phobia.
Well, that confirms what the necklace/pendent/crystal-on-a-chain is for.
The fight scene is crazy enough that I, personally, had to look over it a few times to get a good idea of what happens. Overall, it's good. :mowsmile
Wildy is great in the last panel. :mowhappy I love how she pounces off the counter. It works on multiple levels! She did a nice move with that pendant, too. :mowwink
Actually, the way Wildy is jumping into the fight reminds me how she jumped into things at Saia.
Sure she was having cookies with the cubi students at the end of thing. But before that, she was jumping into the thick of things just like this.
Certainly tells you that Wildy loves a good fight. Though I wonder whats the deal with Genesis's reaction to Wildy? Is that a stereotyped response or are Ferret's well known for taking the brawl to ya and enjoying it?
I'd imagined Dan might have trouble during this fight, two attractive women, one of which who appears to be an amazon. He would be distracted to say the least.
Its seems Wildy can use her powers without her staff, interesting. This does lead some credence to the 'Wildy is a Were' theory, considering Beings generally have 'Very weak or no magic' and she only recently became a shaman.
Okay as a long time fan of DMFA, and a more recent fan of the meme "Texts from my dog" I had to make a comment on this comic.
"IT'S RAINING FERRETS B-TCH!"
At last we see Wildy in action and from what I'm seeing she's very effective.
my guess is that between Wildy and biggs Ferrets are well know to be dangerous.
I like how in Furrae they are always gay, taken, dead, or incubi :lol
Quote from: Plotting on July 13, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
I like how in Furrae they are always gay, taken, dead, or incubi :lol
Note that they don't have to be mutually exclusive either.
I love how "Ferrets" is treated as a threat at least as frightful as "Pygmy Shrews!".
This is a great fight scene. It's clear what's going on and Gen's reaction to Wildy is priceless!
It also seems like Abel has Skirmish and Pegasus locked down fighting him, so if anyone else arrives to help or if Alexsi wakes up, the Blunt Object Brigade is toast!
I must say, the extra-tall format really works well for this scene: it forces you to take in the action frame by frame, for maximum surprise.
Everyone's said it, but I'll say it, too: I love Wildy's look of deranged glee in the last panel. :mowhappy
Quote from: MT Hazard on July 13, 2012, 08:12:25 PMIts seems Wildy can use her powers without her staff, interesting. This does lead some credence to the 'Wildy is a Were' theory, considering Beings generally have 'Very weak or no magic' and she only recently became a shaman.
Maybe. Considering that she and her brother both have bright hair, even if she turns out to technically be a being, I'd say there's a good chance they at least have some creature blood.
At any rate, while the staff probably amplifies things, I think it's safe to say that it's not strictly necessary.
It would be a great time for Lorenda to show up late for the party. But not her mom, given Amber's confessed lazy streak the subsequent panel would be a red splotch.
If Pryoduck and Miss Mab were to return things would definitely take a turn to 'oh shit' for the blunt object brigade. If am wondering how Mab will deal with the conflict between seeing her friend hurt and her mostly pacifistic character.
Recent hints about drawing guns might imply Jyras is going to take a significant.
I will be counting the hours to the next update.
Quote from: nguard on July 13, 2012, 07:51:38 PMI like how Abel is using his wings as arm augmentation,
Both as augmentation for his arms and as separate limbs.
Quote from: MT Hazard on July 13, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
I'd imagined Dan might have trouble during this fight, two attractive women, one of which who appears to be an amazon. He would be distracted to say the least.
They might distract him a bit, though he's (momentarily) seen them before (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_710.php). And protecting his sister would help negate that distraction.
Is there some supposed advantage to Skirmish's spear having a bent shaft?
Quote from: justacritic on July 13, 2012, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Plotting on July 13, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
I like how in Furrae they are always gay, taken, dead, or incubi :lol
Note that they don't have to be mutually exclusive either.
A Gay, taken, Incubus... Lord Ikaarion Daryil comes to mind. They could also be undead, dragon, were or ...human.
Seriously though I will give credit to Able, not only is he intelligently handling the adventure party.
Side note... I wonder how Dan would have handled it considering his history
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 13, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
It would be a great time for Lorenda to show up late for the party. But not her mom, given Amber's confessed lazy streak the subsequent panel would be a red splotch.
If Pryoduck and Miss Mab were to return things would definitely take a turn to 'oh shit' for the blunt object brigade. If am wondering how Mab will deal with the conflict between seeing her friend hurt and her mostly pacifistic character.
Recent hints about drawing guns might imply Jyras is going to take a significant.
I will be counting the hours to the next update.
Mab and P-Ducky show up, Mab will put on a show and defuse the situation by scaring the B-O-B senseless.
In short P-Ducky will try to be reason but Mab will stop it cold.
I was wondering when the "Wildy-Fire" would show up :D (No disrespect to Colorado)
If Jyrras doesn't have his own weapon he might have called MACE to make it there with all due haste, possibly with the Gryphon-Mech!
And I would not want to be anywhere near there if Pyroduck were to show up...
Quote from: Madmann135 on July 13, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 13, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
It would be a great time for Lorenda to show up late for the party. But not her mom, given Amber's confessed lazy streak the subsequent panel would be a red splotch.
If Pryoduck and Miss Mab were to return things would definitely take a turn to 'oh shit' for the blunt object brigade. If am wondering how Mab will deal with the conflict between seeing her friend hurt and her mostly pacifistic character.
Recent hints about drawing guns might imply Jyras is going to take a significant.
I will be counting the hours to the next update.
Mab and P-Ducky show up, Mab will put on a show and defuse the situation by scaring the B-O-B senseless.
In short P-Ducky will try to be reason but Mab will stop it cold.
Like when she threatened to put Dan and Aaryanna in a long time out (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php)? Which kinds of makes me wonder - what would a Fae time out be like if the mere threat of one is enough to scare Merlitz and Aaryanna?
Quote from: Plotting on July 14, 2012, 12:25:30 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on July 13, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 13, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
It would be a great time for Lorenda to show up late for the party. But not her mom, given Amber's confessed lazy streak the subsequent panel would be a red splotch.
If Pryoduck and Miss Mab were to return things would definitely take a turn to 'oh shit' for the blunt object brigade. If am wondering how Mab will deal with the conflict between seeing her friend hurt and her mostly pacifistic character.
Recent hints about drawing guns might imply Jyras is going to take a significant.
I will be counting the hours to the next update.
Mab and P-Ducky show up, Mab will put on a show and defuse the situation by scaring the B-O-B senseless.
In short P-Ducky will try to be reason but Mab will stop it cold.
Like when she threatened to put Dan and Aaryanna in a long time out (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php)? Which kinds of makes me wonder - what would a Fae time out be like if the mere threat of one is enough to scare Merlitz and Aaryanna?
Given that the B-O-B haven't shown a lot of common sense todate we may find out.
Flying ferrets of freedom!! :U
How typically Gen to be lost in the moment before Pegasus snaps her out of it. Wildy's got good aim. Sparing practice with Dan seems to be paying off. I do wonder (and/or worry) how Jyrras plans to get involved in this melee. We haven't seen MACE's combat skills yet, and I do admit... I'm rather curious.
P.S. 100 gils says Chicki is outside the inn, photographing everything and dreaming of a Pulitzer. :D
death from above with molestation face
is it just me or is abels fighting style reminiscent of a breakdance/sissy slapfight fusion?
And flying ferrets shall descend upon the wicked! :mwaha
Wildy's going to kick Gen's butt. These fools have no idea the pain they have brought upon themselves.
Quote from: Ignuus66 on July 13, 2012, 07:29:24 PM
Edit: Is that a cityscape in the window of the last panel??
I believe it's just the bottles behind the bar, though I could be wrong.
Quote from: Brunhidden on July 14, 2012, 01:27:24 AM
death from above with molestation face
Three words covers it, yes. Death From Above!
Quote from: Wanderer on July 14, 2012, 01:54:00 AM
And flying ferrets shall descend upon the wicked! :mwaha
"... and strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to kidnap her friends or brothers. And you will know that she is the Ferret, when she lays her vengeance upon thee."
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Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 14, 2012, 02:46:41 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on July 14, 2012, 01:27:24 AM
death from above with molestation face
Three words covers it, yes. Death From Above!
Quote from: Wanderer on July 14, 2012, 01:54:00 AM
And flying ferrets shall descend upon the wicked! :mwaha
"... and strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to kidnap her friends or brothers. And you will know that she is the Ferret, when she lays her vengeance upon thee."
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'And that's all before she gets out her Holy Hand Grenade, which she shall raise up on high, saying "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord shall grin. And the people shall feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu...'
Ok that's enough Monty Python and the Holy Grail for one day! :P
Quote from: nguard on July 13, 2012, 07:51:38 PM
Because Abel was trained that way? To go for disabling the actual threat, not just the implement?
Unarmed combat and spell casting are are just two of many ways (in this universe) of attacking that do not require weapons.
I dunno - this lot seem to be rather dependent on their implements. Lopping the head off the spear, slicing the sword in half and snatching that amulet wouldn't take much time for each one, and IMHO it looks like Gen could easily have taken down Abel if Wildy hadn't disarmed her.
Quote from: AxiLarin on July 14, 2012, 01:00:27 AM
P.S. 100 gils says Chicki is outside the inn, photographing everything and dreaming of a Pulitzer. :D
Now this is the thing. Some people have been wondering why it's called "Then everything went wrong" and why Abel would be unhappy about the turn of events in this chapter. It occurred to me last night that these adventurers now know that Abel is 'Cubi, and given that they seem to have a very strong anti-'Cubi agenda, they are likely to tell other people about it. If the Lost Lake crew file a report with the local authorities the fact that Abel is 'Cubi is not going to be easy to hide now.
That could make his life particularly awkward if he suddenly has adventurers or worse breaking into the inn to try and get him.
Yet Aaryanna wandered around Lost Lake as a blatant Succubus for quite some time without any trouble. It seems to be a well-established creature-friendly zone.
Quote from: Wanderer on July 14, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
Yet Aaryanna wandered around Lost Lake as a blatant Succubus for quite some time without any trouble. It seems to be a well-established creature-friendly zone.
It's quite likely that the present trouble was caused by her being seen at the inn, i.e. the "reports of 'Cubi activity" mentioned by Nitemyst's group earlier on in the comic
EDIT: Though the inn itself, definitely. Note the little banners - they seem to depict the major races in a stylised fashion.
"Heeeeeeere's Wildy!" >:3
Love the Wildy-expression. "Unholy glee" is how I'd describe it. Most excellent. And rightfully terror-inducing.
I'm quite pleased to see Abel holding his own here against two adventurers. He did a good job of KOing one of the adventuring group at the start of the fight, but three's still a bit much for one person to deal with.
Now vaguely wondering how Wildy mixes magic and hand-to-hand combat. With the exception of one gestalt monk/sorcerer, magic always seemed to be a ranged type thing, and melee combat, well, y'know. Can't whack a dude unless you're right next to him. Shame this'll probably be a short fight. Abel's obviously no slouch, and Wildy, well... Suffice to say the numerical odds might favor the adventurers, but I'd bet on Wildy and Abel. ^__^
Happiness is a leaping Wildy.
I'm still not convinced that Merl's old group were the ones responsible for the other 'Cubi murders. They may not necessarily be some of the brightest crayons in the box, but I really doubt that they're malicious, either. They at least seem to be the type to ask questions first, before doing something else.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on July 14, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
Yet Aaryanna wandered around Lost Lake as a blatant Succubus for quite some time without any trouble. It seems to be a well-established creature-friendly zone.
It's quite likely that the present trouble was caused by her being seen at the inn, i.e. the "reports of 'Cubi activity" mentioned by Nitemyst's group earlier on in the comic
EDIT: Though the inn itself, definitely. Note the little banners - they seem to depict the major races in a stylised fashion.
Thouh another thing to consider is that being "friends" of Merlitz, they might have more personal reasons for being here.
Though depending how the propaganda machine is rolling in the area or where they come from these days and what Genesis shared with the group when she got back from her drunken escapades. Being a "creature" or a "being" might be the furthest thing from their minds.
Though considering how Abel is doing and how Aaryanna's fight with Dan was going. I don't think she would have lasted nearly as long as Abel is against this group.
Think Ferrets are more than they appear to be? After all... (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol366.jpg)
Quote from: joshofspam on July 14, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on July 14, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
Yet Aaryanna wandered around Lost Lake as a blatant Succubus for quite some time without any trouble. It seems to be a well-established creature-friendly zone.
It's quite likely that the present trouble was caused by her being seen at the inn, i.e. the "reports of 'Cubi activity" mentioned by Nitemyst's group earlier on in the comic
EDIT: Though the inn itself, definitely. Note the little banners - they seem to depict the major races in a stylised fashion.
Thouh another think to consider is that being "friends" of Merlitz, they might have more personal reasons for being here.
Though depending how the propaganda machine is rolling in the area or where they come from these days and what Genesis shared with the group when she got back from her drunken escapades. Being a "creature" or a "being" might be the furthest thing from their minds.
Though considering how Abel is doing and how Aaryanna's fight with Dan was going. I don't think she would have lasted nearly as long as Abel is against this group.
Remember that ary Uses her tentacles to grapple (good against single targets), and when she attacked dan, he had no weapon with him Then remember that abel is trying to fight while causing the least blood- Thus blunt weapons. Ary is said to be terrible in a fight.
Quote from: Drako on July 14, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
I'm still not convinced that Merl's old group were the ones responsible for the other 'Cubi murders. They may not necessarily be some of the brightest crayons in the box, but I really doubt that they're malicious, either. They at least seem to be the type to ask questions first, before doing something else.
I dunno. The vibe I'm getting is that if it had been Dan standing alone there instead of Alexsi, they'd have cut off his head without any hesitation.
With Wildy in tow, this is gonna be good! >:3
*pulls out a lawn chair* :popcorn
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 01:27:17 PM
I dunno. The vibe I'm getting is that if it had been Dan standing alone there instead of Alexsi, they'd have cut off his head without any hesitation.
I'm getting that vibe myself. Normally, when a cubi passes out any shapeshifting that has been done is reversed. Remember, when Abel ended up naked after passing out at Jyrras', after he had initially shapeshifted himself some clothes. I'd say the reason they hesitated was because the wings didn't appear as they normally should after passing out, so they treaded on the side of caution in order to not make a mistake. They think she is a cubi shapeshifted in disguise, after all.
I've heard of joie de vivre, but it appears that Wildy demonstrates joie de guerre.
Quote from: Techcubi on July 14, 2012, 12:15:28 PM
Think Ferrets are more than they appear to be? After all... (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol366.jpg)
*sigh* Yeah, it seemed obvious who the person in the 3rd panel was, then Amber goes and pulls this (http://missmab.com/Demo/were.php) on us.
Quote from: Sofox on July 14, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
*sigh* Yeah, it seemed obvious who the person in the 3rd panel was, then Amber goes and pulls this (http://missmab.com/Demo/were.php) on us.
The Being-Creature council? You may find that's not the same thing as the Creature Council.
Destania lived at Lost Lake for years and a least some of the community knew she is a succubus. That didn't stir up any known problems. I don't see that Aaryanna's brief presence is likely to have caused much comment. Given the broom swat to chase off her hair bat it seems that some folks neither knew or cared that Aary was cubi.
It seem more likely that Hizell is stirring up trouble. Genesis4's jealousy pushed the rest of the B-O-B into ill-conceived blitz attack on Alexsi.
Not much has been presented about the community around Lost Lake but by implication it is tolerant of creatures. At least some Demons, Fae and Mythos are shown wandering around openly. I would guess that the B-O-B is in for trouble even if they don't hurt someone else or kill someone (and of course assuming they survive).
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 14, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
It seem more likely that Hizell is stirring up trouble. Genesis4's jealousy pushed the rest of the B-O-B into ill-conceived blitz attack on Alexsi.
It did occur to me that Hizell may, through a chain of intermediaries, have commissioned the B-O-B to do a survey for 'Cubi and then exterminate them.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 14, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
It seem more likely that Hizell is stirring up trouble. Genesis4's jealousy pushed the rest of the B-O-B into ill-conceived blitz attack on Alexsi.
It did occur to me that Hizell may, through a chain of intermediaries, have commissioned the B-O-B to do a survey for 'Cubi and then exterminate them.
Whoa... that'd be damn clever. :erk I can't believe I didn't think of that myself. If Hizell or other dragons came out in the open and started slaying Cubi, a second full-scale war would erupt immediately. But if others are hired out or coaxed into killing individual Cubi one at a time on their behalf, the dragons can thin out the ranks before launching an assault. Verrrry sneaky, sis.
Well, after reviewing the page some more I have some questions for speculation:
Is Nytemist down for the count? He did get hit pretty hard, and may not have had any creature level buffs on to soak the creature level sucker-punch he got. :erk
On panel five: note the simiarity of abel's takedown of Skirmish and strip #1257 http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1257.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1257.php). That looks like a Lisky(tm) move there. What will he do afterwords, if he wins?
What exactly are the laws in Zivnith W.R.T. adventurer groups and their nominal targets? Is the need to have a safe environment for the citizens offset by the basic Demon ethos of "rule of might/power", so you are expected to fend for yourself? Or is there some attempt at balance?
Still, this strip is well done, and kudos to amber for both the art and the script-writing.
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on July 14, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
I'm getting that vibe myself. Normally, when a cubi passes out any shapeshifting that has been done is reversed. Remember, when Abel ended up naked after passing out at Jyrras', after he had initially shapeshifted himself some clothes. I'd say the reason they hesitated was because the wings didn't appear as they normally should after passing out, so they treaded on the side of caution in order to not make a mistake. They think she is a cubi shapeshifted in disguise, after all.
In refutation: http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,8048.msg345763.html#msg345763
Of course, the blunt object brigade probably don't know this wrinkle. After all, they thought Dan was a Cubi, while disguised as Alexsi, but totally overlooked Abel, who was just as disguised as Merlitz. So I'd expect them to be fairly well up on operational details, but missing the minor points that make it useful.
Dan was a fairly competent adventurer - after all, he retired, so he's got to be fairly good - and still didn't know that much about Cubi.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
EDIT: Though the inn itself, definitely. Note the little banners - they seem to depict the major races in a stylised fashion.
I was thinking that Alexsi is going to have to repair or replace the one that Skirmish is jamming her spear into...
Do Zivnith policies apply? Dan appears to be ignorant of the role of the Soulstealer family (#1115). Although Dan can be somewhat oblivious Also Kria flys to Zivnith from her home (#1292) which I presume is within easy walking distance of Lost Lake
Meet my leeetle friend, the
flying ferret OF DOOM! If I were Gen, I'd be scared, too. :)
(BTW, I like the way that Genesis is overflowing her dress. Nice touch, Amber. Is Gen compensating for something, or just showing off? :) )
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
It did occur to me that Hizell may, through a chain of intermediaries, have commissioned the B-O-B to do a survey for 'Cubi and then exterminate them.
Yeah, I've had the same thought. It certainly seems to me that the Blunt Object Brigade is acting on someone else's behalf. They could be doing this on their own, of course, but something about this whole situation gives me the feeling that they're not. And Hizell certainly seems to hold a grudge. What has it been, 7000 years now? Yeah, nothing like disproportionate retribution there.
It occurs to me that Mab knew this was coming, and took Pyroduck to the moons just to get him out of the area. Can you imagine his reaction to seeing a bunch of adventurers standing around the (possibly dead) body of the woman he loves? Not a pretty picture, no, not at all. Lovely shades of red, though... :eek
Quote from: nguard on July 14, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
What exactly are the laws in Zivnith W.R.T. adventurer groups and their nominal targets? Is the need to have a safe environment for the citizens offset by the basic Demon ethos of "rule of might/power", so you are expected to fend for yourself? Or is there some attempt at balance?
Supposedly, Zinvth is a very
safe place to live, guaranteed to be so by the Demon and Mythos families that run the place. (I forget the Mythos family's name, sorry.) While the Soulstealers do subscribe to the whole "might makes right" philosophy, they also seem to have a great deal of integrity. If they say they're going to do something, they'll do it. So if they promise that the citizens of Zinvth will be safe, I'm sure that Kria and her kin will make sure that they are.
It wouldn't surprise me to find that the Powers That Be in Zinvth hire adventuring groups to be their enforcers. I would guess that Kyle's group is one such. But it also wouldn't surprise me to find that they get very annoyed with adventurers wandering into their territory and making trouble. Of course, we don't really know if Lost Lake is within Zinvth's zone of protection or not. It seems reasonable to me that it is, given that it's an easy walk from Lost Lake to one of the shopping malls in town. Plus, you can see the skyscrapers of Zinvth from Lost Lake. But that's still just a guess on my part.
The Mythos clan is Hiata. Based on Zinith's response to Aniz's conduct it would seem they take unprovoked violence very seriously indeed.
It occurs to me that the B-O-B are about to get blamed for the recent cubi murders. In which case they are about to become the focus of the unfriendly attention of the Tuan clan (among others).
Does Furrae have a Darwin Award?
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 14, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
It seem more likely that Hizell is stirring up trouble. Genesis4's jealousy pushed the rest of the B-O-B into ill-conceived blitz attack on Alexsi.
It did occur to me that Hizell may, through a chain of intermediaries, have commissioned the B-O-B to do a survey for 'Cubi and then exterminate them.
The thing I find interesting thinking about that scenario being that the adventurers wouldn't need to be told the truth and just be fed convincing proof.
Of course whether the adventurers know the truth or not, would such a secret group or person acting in such secrecy let pawns live past their usefulness if they could incriminate them? Or even could they be watching now and just waiting to finish the job?
Quote from: Lurkie on July 14, 2012, 05:35:54 PMIt wouldn't surprise me to find that the Powers That Be in Zinvth hire adventuring groups to be their enforcers. I would guess that Kyle's group is one such. But it also wouldn't surprise me to find that they get very annoyed with adventurers wandering into their territory and making trouble. Of course, we don't really know if Lost Lake is within Zinvth's zone of protection or not. It seems reasonable to me that it is, given that it's an easy walk from Lost Lake to one of the shopping malls in town. Plus, you can see the skyscrapers of Zinvth from Lost Lake. But that's still just a guess on my part.
But a short walk outside of Zinvth is enough for your usual "protectors" to start using you as target practice (or at least it was in the seventeenth century). All the way to Lost Lake? Not a chance.
Some more enemies for the B-O-B: Destania is going to be some kind of angry when she learns of the attack on Alexsi. I doubt Biggs is going to ask for an explanation about how come they where fighting with his sister.
The B-O-B could be their dupes instead of Hizell's, in which cases they are doubly screwed.
Then there's this strip: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1279.php
Thing is... Fa'Lina sent Abel out herself, and while she is at the Academy her foresight isn't affected. Did she send Abel willingly to a potential slaughter? And for what purpose?
Quote from: maus_merryjest on July 15, 2012, 01:23:01 AM
Then there's this strip: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1279.php
Thing is... Fa'Lina sent Abel out herself, and while she is at the Academy her foresight isn't affected. Did she send Abel willingly to a potential slaughter? And for what purpose?
Not quite. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1226.php) Fa'Lina's knowledge of the future works based on how recently the individuals whose future she is looking up were at the academy, not on how recently she herself was there. She no longer knows Abel's future, because he has been outside of the academy for more than a month. She's worried precisely because she doesn't know what's going to happen, and she knows that Abel has a whole bunch of issues that could hamper him if trouble comes.
As for the Blunt Object Brigade... yeah, they've set themselves up for a serious fall this time. There are a large number of
really powerful people (both in terms of personal power and political power) who may want to "have a word" with them regarding this attack. Even if they manage to escape this fight, chances are they're going to get crushed.
Quote from: Wanderer on July 15, 2012, 01:41:23 AM
Quote from: maus_merryjest on July 15, 2012, 01:23:01 AM
Then there's this strip: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1279.php
Thing is... Fa'Lina sent Abel out herself, and while she is at the Academy her foresight isn't affected. Did she send Abel willingly to a potential slaughter? And for what purpose?
Not quite. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1226.php) Fa'Lina's knowledge of the future works based on how recently the individuals whose future she is looking up were at the academy, not on how recently she herself was there. She no longer knows Abel's future, because he has been outside of the academy for more than a month. She's worried precisely because she doesn't know what's going to happen, and she knows that Abel has a whole bunch of issues that could hamper him if trouble comes.
Actually Fa'Lina can foresee the future of an individual for about two months (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_740.php) after they leave SAIA.
I personally think it would come down to how far into an individual's future she can see within the two month time frame, and how accurately she can foresee an individual's future.
My personal guess is that there is no limit to how far into an individual's future, but that the further into an individual's future she sees the less accurate her predictions become. This would be due to unforeseen changes in circumstances, situations, motives, etc. A small, seemingly insignificant change in the present could completely change the future of an individual.
I also would hazard a guess that she can see into an individual's future with greater accuracy if she puts the effort into it. But with hundreds or possibly thousands of Cubi's futures to manipulate (officially for the individual Cubi's best long term interests/advantage) I would imagine that she would have to prioritize. And lets face it, Fa'Lina is not infallible in her actions, and she is only semi-omnipotent.
...why is everyone saying that Lost Lake is a suburb of Zinvth, anyway? Or especially that the mall is in Zinvth? I just ran through the entire main comic, and all but three references to Zinvth I can find are references to the Soulstealer family, who seem to live moderately far from Lost Lake. Of those three, one is Lorenda specifically saying that Jyrras doesn't normally enjoy the protections Zinvth citizens do. The only one that seems to suggest the two are anywhere near each other is Kim implying that the incubus was murdered in a "nearby area," if that was in Lost Lake...
Hmm. That Council of Creatures strip posted by Techcubi and the next one (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol367.jpg) make me wonder if Chicki was their observer rather than the freelance reporter that he claimed to be. That'd explain why his photos don't seem to have been published yet.
Quote from: Lurkie on July 14, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
(BTW, I like the way that Genesis is overflowing her dress. Nice touch, Amber. Is Gen compensating for something, or just showing off? :) )
I'd say the latter. After all, Abel was distracted by the amount of crazy they were attached to...
Quote from: Lying Foo on July 15, 2012, 05:18:10 AM
...why is everyone saying that Lost Lake is a suburb of Zinvth, anyway?
Because they seem to be within walking/griffon cab distance of each other (remember, Lorenda can't fly and Kria offered her a job there). Lost Lake certainly seems to be in the outskirts of the Zinvth region, but it might not necessarily be within its borders.
EDIT:
Just spotted this. To answer your other question, the mall
is apparently in Zinvth because that's where Matilda lives and presumably works. (p.1301)
:bunny
hopping with joy for the ferret infestation!
Adventurers routinely seek out death and danger for the glory, the money, the honor blah blah blah. And they seem a little understaffed in the whole "planning things out" department. At first I was miffed, mostly because Gen seemed able to determine that one person had magical shapeshifting stuff over another much closer person, and today she doesn't even seem to notice that Alex isn't covered with magic. But then I thought, Patches! Yes that would explain her lack of caring about the lack of magic, but then what about Merl. Well that comes down to two options, either she really is that stupid and her bungling hasn't cost them so dearly before in their years of traveling together, or does Merl always have magic for shapeshifting around him and they just know about it. I don't see why Gen wouldn't have the hots for Merl too, unless she knew that Merl was actually some sort of something or other ... I dunno maybe shes just into spots not stripes.
Cool idea about the dragon being behind it all.
Cool thought about Jyrras bringing in mecha bunny, but I think Jyrras has a cooler thing available to him, and its name is the deathbringer, bringer of doom and destruction! With a pink aftertaste!
Or maybe Jyrras, being around the crew for some time, might have some authority to speak to them and command their pause.
Oh yeah one last thing concerning Nite: SUCKER PUNCH'D!
I bet Able's wings are stronger than the vast majority of explosions, if I were a Cubi I would engulf others in them, like that black stuff from the Incredibles movie. Bet it would still get me fried but I would totally use the one thing that all others forget entirely about a Cubi's special coolness powers: Warp Aci. Tired of your problems? There's a small tropical island somewhere waiting for you or your enemies, whoever happens to end up in the mouth of an Aci with 90/10 ratio of power with Aci / Cubi respectively .... Could you imagine? Three stories tall Fi, .... Muncha muncha muahahahaha
Gleee! Fi Shirt! Such joy! Thanks Amberlicious! I would have your babies, but you're a chick too....
Quote from: nguard on July 13, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
I don't know which is funnier-- Wildy's look of transcendent joy at a real fight, or Genesis's utter terror.
When I stopped consider the fact that every ferret owner I've known in reality has said that ferret playtime
starts when one of them draws blood, the little details like this became that much funnier.
Quote from: nguard on July 14, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
Is Nytemist down for the count? He did get hit pretty hard, and may not have had any creature level buffs on to soak the creature level sucker-punch he got. :erk
Looks like he's still down, so even if he isn't unconscious, he got his bells rung too hard to participate. Abel
did punch him so hard that he was knocked right out of his shoes. He's probably lucky that Abel's wing-fist was so big--it spread out the impact. That much force delivered from a more normal-sized fist would almost certainly break bones.
QuoteOn panel five: note the simiarity of abel's takedown of Skirmish and strip #1257 http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1257.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1257.php). That looks like a Lisky(tm) move there. What will he do afterwords, if he wins?
Not really Abel's style, I think. I imagine he would do something more practical, since the BOB is an actual threat. (If it were a "playful" fight, like his spats with Dan, he might draw on their faces or something, though.)
As to the move itself, it looks like Abel may have an interesting variation on it: in addition to the boot to the head, he's got a wing-hand open behind her. He may be planning to grab her and either smash her into something or throw her across the room with it. In his position, I'd be preparing to fling her at Gen...though that tactic no longer seems to be necessary, due to unholy ferret glee.
For all the talk about cubi being rubbish in a fight due to their emotions, Abel--who appeared to be in a rage when he jumped in--is being remarkably effective. He neutralized one foe with a single punch before they even knew they were in a fight, and he's been holding off two armed, experienced fighters in melee. He even seems to have the upper hand--so to speak--for the moment. Of course, he has a little extra motivation (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1237.php) to look out for Alexsi. :D
This is sort of a revelation. Ferrets are worthy of horror and panic in furrae? I knew that Wildy was some sort of force-of-nature, but not that her entire species is feared. And then she took a course in magic, became a Shaman, and trained with Dan to sharpen her battle-magic.
Considering that Gen needs a crystal to perform her stun spell, Wildy might even be a better battle-mage as well as a better fighter. I almost hope Gen has a trick or two to keep from being swatted like a fly.
Gen will be lucky if Wildy doesn't eat her alive.
Weighing in on the Hizell-hired-the-BOB theory, I agree, but with reservations. I definitely think that they were hired by someone, or tricked into this somehow, but I don't know that Hizell is behind it. At least not Hizell himself. Given his treatment of Abel's Clan, he seems more like a "Kill 'em all" type, rather than a "send out beings to take the fall" dude.
I suspect Hizell does have something to do with the cubi murders, BOB or no BOB.
Hmm, as for Dan being detected and Abel not it could be more about experience. Dan was brand new at this transformation and likely a bit sloppy and spilling magic about to a trained magic detector. Abel would have the tighter control to mask evidence of the shift thus fooling both eyes and magic detectors perhaps?
I do wonder about Nite, if he was the reason they get so close to a target. He cloaks them in an illusion then Gen uses her stun amulet thing to KO the victim before they even know someone is there.
Wasn't it mentioned that there was a demon trainer for combat at SAIA? Abel's wings definitely seem to be more bat-like right now. His "come at me bro" stance, followed by a rope a dope, into some nasty counters are really quite effective. He's showing a fair amount of battle strategy.
That isn't Wildy's original tail if I remember right, she had an upgrade done at some point earlier in the comic. Makes ya wonder what else a being can have augmented with the right cash and connections. Which considering her family, she has ample access to both.
Quote from: YawnPB on July 16, 2012, 12:40:56 AM
Hmm, as for Dan being detected and Abel not it could be more about experience. Dan was brand new at this transformation and likely a bit sloppy and spilling magic about to a trained magic detector. Abel would have the tighter control to mask evidence of the shift thus fooling both eyes and magic detectors perhaps?
Actually, the difference was more likely that Dan wasn't transformed by cubi shapeshifting like Abel was. He was transformed by magic Abel cast on him (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_691.php). That morphing magic is what Gen and Nite sensed (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_711.php). I would presume that cubi shapeshifting doesn't carry an aura they can spot, and that they were unaware of that fact; it would make sense, as such an aura would be a dead giveaway, and no cubi would ever go undetected for long.
Alternatively, it's possible that they simply didn't check Abel because they "recognized" him as Merlitz.
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 14, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
The Mythos clan is Hiata. Based on Zinith's response to Aniz's conduct it would seem they take unprovoked violence very seriously indeed.
Thank you! I could
not find that reference. I know it's somewhere in the archives, or perhaps Demonology 101, but I keep missing it. *grump*
Quote from: Bruinthor on July 14, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
Does Furrae have a Darwin Award?
Hah ha! If they don't, they should. I'm sure Amber could come up with some gruesomely hilarious entries. :)
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Quote from: Lurkie on July 14, 2012, 05:35:54 PMIt wouldn't surprise me to find that the Powers That Be in Zinvth hire adventuring groups to be their enforcers. I would guess that Kyle's group is one such. But it also wouldn't surprise me to find that they get very annoyed with adventurers wandering into their territory and making trouble. Of course, we don't really know if Lost Lake is within Zinvth's zone of protection or not. It seems reasonable to me that it is, given that it's an easy walk from Lost Lake to one of the shopping malls in town. Plus, you can see the skyscrapers of Zinvth from Lost Lake. But that's still just a guess on my part.
But a short walk outside of Zinvth is enough for your usual "protectors" to start using you as target practice (or at least it was in the seventeenth century). All the way to Lost Lake? Not a chance.
True enough, I suppose. But modern-day Furrae is not 17th century Europe. They have modern communications -- telephones, television, an Internet-equivalent -- that helps to reduce effective distances. Also, assuming that Lost Lake is within Zinvth's protection -- which it may not be, I'll admit -- Zinvth is run by Creatures who would be most displeased if their hired flunkies started making the very kind of trouble that Zinvth is supposed to be free of. Most displeased. As in, "eat 'em and let the Gods sort 'em out" displeased.
Regardless of that, I think the Blunt Object Brigade is in for a very bad time of it. Unless they can pull a metaphorical rabbit out of the equally metaphorical hat. Warp-Aci, anyone?
Quote from: Lurkie on July 16, 2012, 01:13:48 PMAlso, assuming that Lost Lake is within Zinvth's protection -- which it may not be, I'll admit --
Lost Lake is not a part of Zinvth. It's land personally owned by the Ti'Fiona family. So there is no reason for it to be under Zinvth's protections.
Thank you, Amber, thank you very much for clearing that up. 8)
Now we can go on to unsupported speculations in other areas! :mwaha
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Ok, 1? Don't do that. That's spam and kinda hits on the foreign language rules. 2? The message you put in there? You might want to clarify it a bit, given that wishing cancer on someone is pretty harsh and the language you used wasn't really acceptable.
MAO SUCKER PUNCH!
Quote from: Mao on July 16, 2012, 04:11:01 PM
Ok, 1? Don't do that. That's spam and kinda hits on the foreign language rules. 2? The message you put in there? You might want to clarify it a bit, given that wishing cancer on someone is pretty harsh and the language you used wasn't really acceptable.
Be glad Mao got here first. Because I am cranky, and ready to ban someone. That's uncalled for, and now I'm watching you, Aserath.
Quote from: Damaris on July 16, 2012, 11:02:43 PM
Quote from: Mao on July 16, 2012, 04:11:01 PM
Ok, 1? Don't do that. That's spam and kinda hits on the foreign language rules. 2? The message you put in there? You might want to clarify it a bit, given that wishing cancer on someone is pretty harsh and the language you used wasn't really acceptable.
Be glad Mao got here first. Because I am cranky, and ready to ban someone. That's uncalled for, and now I'm watching you, Aserath.
Me, too. I was about to come here and point out the _two_ rules you agreed to that you just broke. At least two. And then instaban.
... Dammit, Mao. You're too quick. ;-]
Yeesh, for once I'm not the one chomping at the bit to ban someone.
ASCII encryption isn't effective in a place like this where over 100 people can read binary.
Quote from: Sofox on July 17, 2012, 06:59:30 AM
ASCII encryption isn't effective in a place like this where over 100 people can read binary.
I'm sure there's more than 4 people. ;)
Well, at least 101 people anyway.
I'm thinking anyone can read binary with a "little" help :P http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp
although It does not work on numbers, those you have to decode yourself.
All well and good, but one shouldn't have to when on the forum. Though I admit I used an app to translate it as well... mostly because I'm too lazy to do that math *and* go find the lookup tables. I did that stuff back in Uni, I'm done doing it unless I need to do it for work.
Quote from: Mao on July 17, 2012, 06:34:54 AM
Yeesh, for once I'm not the one chomping at the bit to ban someone.
... Who are you, and what have you done with Mao? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 17, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
... Who are you, and what have you done with Mao? ;-]
I don't know, but I hope you'll get along with this newly installed Mao 2.0.