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Title: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: LoneHowler on August 18, 2006, 12:58:17 AM
Yes we all know each other  :mowwink
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 12:59:46 AM
Communism is a good thing!
QuoteAHHHHHHH!!!! MOZER LAND!!!!!
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: thegayhare on August 18, 2006, 01:18:32 AM
You know I'v had an interesting thought. 

If Ms Amber succeds in her migration to the great white north we might not be allowed to buy her products at Ac anymore.

It seems some canadian furs like superjay and wookie (I think) were stopped by US border security and were told they couldn't come into the us,  because for the first time ever artists selling stuff at a convention were requred to have a work visa to enter the us.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 01:23:16 AM
Where ever shes heading...She might have a chance to meet someone there too.....*pearing his curious gaze amung the canadian forumnites*
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Amber Williams on August 18, 2006, 01:49:03 AM
Quote from: thegayhare on August 18, 2006, 01:18:32 AM
You know I'v had an interesting thought. 

If Ms Amber succeds in her migration to the great white north we might not be allowed to buy her products at Ac anymore.

It seems some canadian furs like superjay and wookie (I think) were stopped by US border security and were told they couldn't come into the us,  because for the first time ever artists selling stuff at a convention were requred to have a work visa to enter the us.

The trick dear bunny, is to have the places that make most the stuff still in the US....  >:3

It also helps I am a bit of a small-time seller...a lot of con dealers have boxes upon boxes of merchandise, where 80% of the time my stuff is commission or stuff that fits in a single box.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Reese Tora on August 18, 2006, 01:49:33 AM
I suspect that, as a natural born US citizen, such work visa rules will not apply, even once she is legalls living in Canada.  Then again, you never know with our tax system.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: thegayhare on August 18, 2006, 01:55:37 AM
true,  I mean superjay's stuff is prostetics so thats all bulky stuffs
*noddles*
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Fresnor on August 18, 2006, 04:07:50 AM
You are all forgetting the most important thing.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY Amber!   :bday :cheers
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 18, 2006, 04:13:16 AM
That's tomorrow, Fres. :-)
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Fresnor on August 18, 2006, 04:16:03 AM
Oh, well I suck with remembering dates, so sue me.   :P  :mowtongue
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: ITOS on August 18, 2006, 04:23:01 AM
Quote from: Fresnor on Tomorrow, Ambers birthdayHAPPY BIRTHDAY Amber!   :bday :cheers

Fixed the time. :mowhappy
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: King Of Hearts on August 18, 2006, 05:06:43 AM
Well, just to be sure I dont miss it anyway, Advance Happy  B-day, Ms. A, you soviet pancake fiend you.  :mowwink


Birthdays are good for you. Statistics show that the people who have the most live the longest.
--Larry Lorenzoni
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Tapewolf on August 18, 2006, 06:45:10 AM
Mat, if you're reading this, can I please, please have your the recording for the Radio Project?   :mowmeep
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 09:31:01 AM
Gee Amber's getting old... not, happy b-day!

Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: James StarRunner on August 18, 2006, 12:26:47 PM
I don't know where I'll be tomarrow, so Happy B-day (you old fossil (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamestongue.gif))!

Yes, good Canadian joke! I laughed in my igloo for hours!
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Toric on August 18, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
Bwahaha, this comic randomly reminds me of a Bond film I saw the other day.

*Bond in a circus performer's suit breaks through a gate to a U.S. military base*

Gate guard: "Some nutjob just crashed his way onto the base! And he's wearing a red shirt!"

Remember Amber, red clothing = communist.

In other news, happy early birthday to the Mabess. Hopefully she'll get a computer for her birthday, whereas I will recieve a frickin' day-long brainstomper of a test! (MCAT, woot.)
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Kenji on August 18, 2006, 12:41:06 PM
Needs more badly drawn Canada. D:
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Dakata on August 18, 2006, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on August 18, 2006, 12:41:06 PM
Needs more badly drawn Canada. D:
(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/219/canada2ij0.gif)
:B I'm so gewd at drawing Canada.

*Ate too much candy* D:
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Aridas on August 18, 2006, 01:09:54 PM
.....I'd have expected that font for something like... mexico, instead of USA and Canada
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Dakata on August 18, 2006, 01:16:59 PM
I just used a random font. :P

Edit: There. I used another font. :B
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Silverfoxr on August 18, 2006, 01:41:29 PM
*sings* blame canda = blame canada
- very addictive song ><
and apparently i still cant spell it either :mowmeep
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 01:50:43 PM
"They're not even a real country anyway."
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 02:03:24 PM
Canada is a wonderful place, a great place to film and wonderful expansive wilderness. 

Granted its cold... very cold... but it's nice and clean, trees, foxes... there I go with foxes again...
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Silverfoxr on August 18, 2006, 02:14:57 PM
nothing wrong with foxes
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 02:20:18 PM
I want to move to Canada and I think Communism is good, people must think I'm weird. :U
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: mini-lion on August 18, 2006, 02:26:40 PM
i was kinda thinking myself of after university and doing a job for 5-7 years to move out of the UK, the only problem would be is that i would not be able to go to the french speaking areas of Canada. Plus i work better in the cold than the hot.

side note: foxes are indeed amazing
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 02:31:51 PM
I am too fox obsessed... there are other cute animals in the world... really, there are.

Canada is socialist, not communist.  China is communist, a totalitarian regime with a proto-socialist infrastructure.  True communism would have no centralized government and all would truly be equal.  No true communist societies exist.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 02:43:14 PM
I never said Canada was Communist. :P  But if it were, world domination would be iminent.  With the aid of Mozilla Firefox, Mazda Miata's, and Welsch Corgis! :mwaha  NO ONE SHALL STOP US NOW!!!
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on August 18, 2006, 02:43:14 PM
I never said Canada was Communist. :P  But if it were, world domination would be iminent.  With the aid of Mozilla Firefox, Mazda Miata's, and Welsch Corgis! :mwaha  NO ONE SHALL STOP US NOW!!!

Never said you did fuzzy.  If Canada did conquer the world, it would likely be the French-Canadians... dooming us all... doom I say... doom!

Haz is cartoony cute now :3
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 03:03:29 PM
Oh noes, not French Canada! :O   (I am a self-hating French Canadian. :cry )
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zorro on August 18, 2006, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on August 18, 2006, 02:43:14 PM
I never said Canada was Communist. :P  But if it were, world domination would be iminent.  With the aid of Mozilla Firefox, Mazda Miata's, and Welsch Corgis! :mwaha  NO ONE SHALL STOP US NOW!!!

Never said you did fuzzy.  If Canada did conquer the world, it would likely be the French-Canadians... dooming us all... doom I say... doom!

Haz is cartoony cute now :3

FRENCH anything conquering the World? :wtf
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 03:50:16 PM
Random Canadian funniness from even more random Google searching. http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Canada/funny

(http://images.cafepress.com/product/64164464v5_240x240_F.jpg)
(http://images.cafepress.com/product/37539606_240x240_F.jpg)
(http://images.cafepress.com/product/61182280v2_240x240_F.jpg)

I like this (http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Canada/funny/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_8387142/opt_/fpt_/c_360/) one a lot.  :)  (Oh noes! A boot!)  D:
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 18, 2006, 03:57:31 PM
Sadly all I know about canada I learned from socialists, and hockey. Apperently they all live withing 30 miles of the USA and blame us Americans for Global warming acid rain and... the downfall of good hockey players.

I STILL SAY VERMONT HAS THE BEST MAPLE SYRUP HANDS DOWN!.... although now the syrup bottles say products of the US "and" Canada.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 05:16:46 PM
Well this is a small world we live in and canandas is my states big brother somehow
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: James StarRunner on August 18, 2006, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 03:50:16 PM

I like this (http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Canada/funny/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_8387142/opt_/fpt_/c_360/) one a lot.  :)  (Oh noes! A boot!)  D:
I got your "boot" right here!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/Supercheese.jpg)
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: terrycloth on August 18, 2006, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: Azlan on August 18, 2006, 02:31:51 PMNo true communist societies exist.

I thought there were still communes... it doesn't work with a very *big* society, for sure. A dozen or so hippies, though. :B
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on August 18, 2006, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 03:50:16 PM

I like this (http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Canada/funny/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_8387142/opt_/fpt_/c_360/) one a lot.  :)  (Oh noes! A boot!)  D:
I got your "boot" right here!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/Supercheese.jpg)


Bravo James!
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: LoneHowler on August 18, 2006, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: mini-lion on August 18, 2006, 02:26:40 PM
the only problem would be is that i would not be able to go to the french speaking areas of Canada. Plus i work better in the cold than the hot.

Not all of Canada speaks french you go to Western Canada and start speaking french, most of us will give you a blank look. as for it being cold some parts of Canada are quite warm we do have Badlands and rain forest, some parts get very little snow in winter. Calgary for example get a white Christmas once every 6 years or so, I've done Christmas shopping in shorts on many occasions.

and a very merry Birthday to Amber  :mowhappy
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 18, 2006, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 01:50:43 PM
"They're not even a real country anyway."

Yeah, Canada...
That's what happens when you decide to start a country and nobody shows up.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: fesworks on August 18, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
yay!!!! a BDK Cartoon! ... kinda... so sad Mat does not do comics anymore and only blogs. :(
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: fesworks on August 18, 2006, 06:53:42 PM
BTW... does anyone remember that beer commercial "My name is Joe! and I. Am. CANADIAN!" ??

good times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk2ihou3QAw
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 07:12:50 PM
"More cows up here than people."
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 07:24:06 PM
Hey, that's what the fat guy from RA2 says before he gets blown up by a Crazy Ivan! :O  That part was funny. :lol
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 08:28:15 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on August 18, 2006, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 03:50:16 PM

I like this (http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Canada/funny/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_8387142/opt_/fpt_/c_360/) one a lot.  :)  (Oh noes! A boot!)  D:
I got your "boot" right here!

I was hoping you'd post that.  xD
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on August 18, 2006, 07:24:06 PM
Hey, that's what the fat guy from RA2 says before he gets blown up by a Crazy Ivan! :O  That part was funny. :lol

That was the general, and he got blown up later (though play Yuri's Revenge for some surprises).
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 08:30:51 PM
Ya, I have Yuri's Revenge and was sad when you go back in time.  I don't like him. :evil
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Supercheese on August 18, 2006, 08:33:43 PM
Save fat General dude? Didn't we just get rid of him??

Meh. Albert Einstein makes waaaay too many temporal paradoxes in the RA universe.

Whee, way off topic!  :B
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 08:39:27 PM
I don't know, Soviets were communist, I like playing as Soviet (Siege Choppers Rock!), there's a connection.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Alondro on August 18, 2006, 09:44:51 PM
Canada... they secretly caused the death of Amelia Earhart, Elvis, President Kennedy, and Marilyn Monroe!  But they weren't done yet!  River Phoenix was their next victim!  And John Candy!  Then they popped a cap in Big!  THEY DID IT ALL!!!  Now, look at all the Canadians invading the entertainment industry... THEY'RE TAKING OVER!!!  It's all a conspiracy I say!  We've got to stop... *BLAM BLAM*  WAUUGHHH.... *dies* 

*Charline hides the gun and the big bag of money with the Canadian maple leaf on it*  Oh dear... Charles died... and his computer with all the evidence has mysteriously exploded.  What a shame!   >:3

*Alondro pops in*  Oh, and a present for Mab, since she likes Invader Zim.  A quite good fan animation!  http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/332880

:3
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 10:40:07 PM
Me Zim fan too  :3
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 18, 2006, 10:56:16 PM
I fear that I must show my mature level...the only world of idiots I could stand was in Dilbert.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 18, 2006, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 10:40:07 PM
Me Zim fan too  :3

ditto, and I liked Zim back when it was a doodle in squee's notebook.

Squee the poor little boy who lived across the street fom Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and no one would believe him, and who was abducted by the same stupid aliens fron the series. Squee who went to school under the tootalage of  the evil Miss Bitters.


I think Amber should go to a comic book shop and pick up a copy of "Squee" for her birthday. . .

Edit: for spelling
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: King Of Hearts on August 18, 2006, 11:46:51 PM
IIRC China is  Socialist, the only Marxist Communist countries left are Cuba and North Korea.

Communism only works on paper, as Lenin has said there is no freedom if there is a state, there is no state if there is freedom.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 18, 2006, 11:52:05 PM
Ok, I really have to ask, wtf does IIRC mean? :(
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 18, 2006, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 18, 2006, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Zedd on August 18, 2006, 10:40:07 PM
Me Zim fan too  :3

ditto, and I liked Zim back when it was a dooddle in squee's notebook.

Squee the poor little boy who lived across the street fom Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and no one would believe him, and who was abducted by the same tupid aliens fron the series. Squee who went to school under the tootalage of  the evil Miss Bitters.


I think Amber should go to a comic book shop and pick up a copy of "Squee" for her birthday. . .

I loaned Amber my copy of Squee.  I don't know if she read it or not.  I'll have to offer it to her again.   And to tell the truth, it was originally that generous David Hopkins who gave it to me.  He's the one who got me into Jhonen Vasquez in the first place.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 19, 2006, 12:02:30 AM
My sister found a copy of JTHM when she was homeless in seattle after recieving her EMT certification( Biggest load of Crap I ever heard).   I read it and then I purchased Squee, I feel sick and Lenore.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: King Of Hearts on August 19, 2006, 12:08:10 AM
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on August 18, 2006, 11:52:05 PM
Ok, I really have to ask, wtf does IIRC mean? :(

If I remember Correctly.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 19, 2006, 12:14:19 AM
Oic, thank you! :D
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 19, 2006, 12:52:11 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 19, 2006, 12:02:30 AM
My sister found a copy of JTHM when she was homeless in seattle after recieving her EMT certification( Biggest load of Crap I ever heard).   I read it and then I purchased Squee, I feel sick and Lenore.

Amber carries a bunch of her art-related stuff in a Lenore lunchbox, so I assume she's read that too.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Damaris on August 19, 2006, 12:58:11 AM
Man, I love that Lenore lunchbox.  The thing cracks me up.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Fresnor on August 19, 2006, 05:06:17 AM
Oh yeah, somebody with her better make sure she gets the traditional Birthday Spankings too  >:3 :bat :kittydevious
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: fesworks on August 19, 2006, 09:44:43 AM
I'm sure that since Bush's Dictatorship here in America, that Approximately 500,000 Americans because Canadians.. (Its was about 200,000 right before Bush's FIRST election to office, aka his second term... and the Canadians issued a statement that Americans can;t just go up there... that they need to apply for tons of stuff, etc.)

So maybe they are trying to really limit Americans that come it. Hell We stopped the British invading for a while... And the Canadians are trying to stop the American invasion :P
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on August 19, 2006, 04:54:43 PM
I hope this won't be a problem when I take the train up into Canada. :(
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 19, 2006, 10:40:44 PM
Quote from: fesworks on August 19, 2006, 09:44:43 AM
I'm sure that since Bush's Dictatorship here in America, that Approximately 500,000 Americans because Canadians.. (Its was about 200,000 right before Bush's FIRST election to office, aka his second term... and the Canadians issued a statement that Americans can;t just go up there... that they need to apply for tons of stuff, etc.)

So maybe they are trying to really limit Americans that come it. Hell We stopped the British invading for a while... And the Canadians are trying to stop the American invasion :P

First of all, for the last ten years, total immigration to Canada has been fairly steady at around 200,000 to 250,000 per year, about 68% from Asia, 15% from Europe, and 9% from Africa.  The number from the U.S. has never been more than 6,000 at any time in the last ten years.  That's about 2.7%.    On the other hand people immigrating from Canada to the U.S. over the last ten years has been between 15,000 and 20,000 per year, about three times that going the other way.  This is pretty amazing, considering Canada's population is only about 1/10th that of the U.S.  So apparently, the average Canadian is 30 times more likely to want to come to the U.S. than the other way around.

I live in a border state, and I have realtives both in the U.S. and Canada.  My sister actually has dual citizenship.  Knowing what I know first hand, "free" health care is anything but free, it's a LOT more expensive than insurance in the U.S. (Just check the Federal and Provincial taxes they take out).  And sure, you can get drugs cheap, but try to get elective surgery and you end up one a waiting list for a year and a half.  People from the US go north to fill their prescriptions, but the hospitals around here are full of Canadians who can't get the tests or operations they need from the system up there.

And for God's sake.  Bush was elected, twice.  If the U.S. wanted someone else as President, they would have elected Kerry two years ago instead of electing Bush with an even higher percentage.  Get over it.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Aridas on August 19, 2006, 11:18:35 PM
That excludes all the people who are more educated and know a mistake when they see it.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Damaris on August 20, 2006, 01:14:41 AM
Bush was installed by the Supreme Court the first time, and then narrowly was elected president the second.  For a war-time president, that's pretty sad, because they usually win by a landslide.  For a war-time president, he won by the skin of his teeth.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Aridas on August 20, 2006, 02:10:14 AM
Possibly meaning that he wouldn't have stood a chance.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Manawolf on August 20, 2006, 03:07:35 AM
The fact that the problems in the middle east hardly constitute a full blown war and people in Florida really messed up with voting may also make play a roll.

Anyway, enough of Bush.  He dumb, get over it, and get back on topic.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 20, 2006, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: Damaris on August 20, 2006, 01:14:41 AM
Bush was installed by the Supreme Court the first time, and then narrowly was elected president the second.  For a war-time president, that's pretty sad, because they usually win by a landslide.  For a war-time president, he won by the skin of his teeth.

Bush won because he won Florida's electoral votes.  The Supreme court case only said that Florida couldn't change it's own recount rules.  When others (notably the New York Times) sponsored unofficial recounts using those methods, Bush won by an even larger margin - twice.  And I'm not sure where you get you information, but only one U.S. war-time president ever won by a landslide, Roosevelt during WW II.  Lincoln had a repectable 4% in 1864, not exactly a landslide.   The rest either won by very small margins (Madison by 0.4 % in 1812), or LOST - like Truman during Korea in 1952, or were so unpopular they didn't even run, like Johnson during Vietnam in 1968.    Wilson had debilitating health problems at the end of WW I and probably couldn't have run anyway, but was so unpopular that the Republican, Harding, won in a landslide - with 68% of the popular vote.

I'm not trying to start anything here.  You guys are all my friends and I wouldn't offend you for anything.   It's just that I hate to see people get warped ideas from politicians and revisionists when you can easily look this stuff up.  Plus I just really like to argue.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 20, 2006, 05:15:51 PM
Thanks, Rafe - that's all useful information to know.

Not to mention surprising, given the way the media (on both sides) like to play it.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Reese Tora on August 20, 2006, 05:59:21 PM
The media playes everything sensationalist, it's one failing of thiers. (among others >_> )

Not something I want to get into and (further) hijack the thread with, though.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Wolphin on August 28, 2006, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: fesworks on August 19, 2006, 09:44:43 AM
I'm sure that since Bush's Dictatorship here in America, that Approximately 500,000 Americans because Canadians.. (Its was about 200,000 right before Bush's FIRST election to office, aka his second term... and the Canadians issued a statement that Americans can;t just go up there... that they need to apply for tons of stuff, etc.)

So maybe they are trying to really limit Americans that come it. Hell We stopped the British invading for a while... And the Canadians are trying to stop the American invasion :P

If us Canadians want to stop an invasion, we can (Look up the war of 1812 - you'll have trouble finding even a reference in a US textbook).  Canada is the *ONLY* country that has never been beaten in war, as we pick and choose what wars we want to have, then go all out.

Canadians not only stopped the invasion with no losses, and very few injuries, we pushed you back past where the white house stands and set it on fire.  They repainted it white and called it the white house.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Rafe on August 28, 2006, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: Wolphin on August 28, 2006, 01:06:08 PM
If us Canadians want to stop an invasion, we can (Look up the war of 1812 - you'll have trouble finding even a reference in a US textbook).  Canada is the *ONLY* country that has never been beaten in war, as we pick and choose what wars we want to have, then go all out.

Canadians not only stopped the invasion with no losses, and very few injuries, we pushed you back past where the white house stands and set it on fire.  They repainted it white and called it the white house.

Allow me to speak as Professor Rafe for a moment:

That's pretty much accurate, but, at least in my part of the U.S., the War of 1812 is a major subject.  In fact, the school I graduated from, Tippecanoe High School, was named after one of the battles of that war.  And yes, Washington D.C. was attacked and the Whitehouse burned, but so was Toronto.  And even though the politicians in Washington left in a hurry, when the same British force went north to Baltimore, the citizens there put up a fight and forced them out of Chesapeake Bay.  Almost everyone knows that story, it was written into a poem by Francis Scott Key called The Star Spangled Banner.

I'd call it more of a draw, overall.  The U.S. got what it wanted in the first place, the end of interference with its trade with France and elsewhere.  It also got control of Maine, Michigan, the Great Lakes, and Washington State, and removed British influence from the entire Mississippi Valley, but didn't get the rest of Canada. 

As far as having "no losses and few injuries", I suppose it depends on which part of the war you're talking about.  In the battle of New Orleans, there were more than 2000 casualties on the British side (and only 71 U.S.).  Strangely enough, this occurred after the Treaty of Ghent ending the war had been signed, but it took over six weeks for word to get across the Atlantic. 

Lots of interesting things going on back then around the time of the Napoleonic Wars.  Fun stuff to read.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Netami on August 28, 2006, 05:43:48 PM
Golly, I wanna be just like Canada when I grow up.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Azlan on August 28, 2006, 10:42:51 PM
The Battle of Dunkirk comes to mind...

Heated national pride aside, Canada has always been an anchor of stability in North America.  The reasonable, semi-neutral and fatherly seeming nation in most conflicts in fairly recent history.  Canada has always been slow to act, appearing conservative or cautious, but in actuality their maneuvering are largely due to their desire to retain a positive and neutral world image.  Canada is far too worried that they might take action and end up on the unfavorable or unpopular side of conflict (unlike the United States or United Kingdom which always move forward with whatever they believe right... mostly, exceptions exist of course).

The United States seems to think, and a good deal of NATO and the U.S.'s allies as well, that it is the Police force of the world.  The United States takes action when no one else will, or in many cases when it really has no business doing so, whereas Canada stands back and acts as the wise adviser and critic.

Canada is a cloistered country, protected on all sides by the United States, giving it the ability to sit back and judge the actions of others when it takes little of its own.  Despite that opinion, Canada is a valuable nation at the negotiation table, seen as impartial and stable.

All in all, Canada has a valuable and well established place in the world, it is a valuable anchor nation in world politics.
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 29, 2006, 04:45:01 AM
Hmmm..What about Michigan? canadas little brother?
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: fesworks on August 31, 2006, 05:00:40 PM
What about Michigan? and how is it Canada's younger brother?
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 31, 2006, 05:14:57 PM
Well some people from michigan where former seltters from cananda
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Aridas on August 31, 2006, 05:17:11 PM
What does it really matter what point in the world some people came from in determining something like that?
Title: Re: Darn Canadian borders 8/18/06
Post by: Zedd on August 31, 2006, 09:06:51 PM
*somewhere in the world a moose explodes*