The Clockwork Mansion

If that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

Edit: Fixed your topic. Come on, guys, it's not like the format is tricky or anything - copy and paste the previous one, for crying out loud. Sheesh.
  -- llearch

Because we all know that Fa'Lina is of unnatural size, even if she didn't shift.

That said Cyra has an ass the could stop a truck, I think I'm in love.   :mowhappy

And it looks like she has been hiding all this time on a nice beach somewhere  :mowhappy
I just wonder if it is clothing optional??  :mowdizzy

I think Amber needs to be careful with that clothing.....that's pushing the PG a bit with how loose it is :P

it looks like it's gonna fall right off her chest!

Alas the advantage (or disadvantage depending on your point of view) of a static medium... without movement you don't have clothing malfunctions.  :mowsad

Ok, so Cubi clan leaders are large in general.
Question is, where are Dan and Cyra right now? Is this... taking place in the "dream world?" Like a chat room formed from their minds where they influence the environment?
Or is Cyra on some far off world/plane of existence, and Dan is being "projected" in the environment?

On another note,  I must say that I'm loving the blue going on.

Quote from: OminousShadow on April 18, 2011, 12:52:18 AM
If that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

Technically, Fa'Lina isn't a clan leader. She has no clan.

Holy bodacious beach babe, Batman!  (Remember, commas save lives!  And sometimes dignity)

Wait!  Cyra doesn't have a tail?!   :erk

Is she trying to blind her poor grandchild? No relative should show that much cleavage to another family member!

Love that smile on her though. What a woman.. . . . . .

Well, I think this confirms that she's actually that big.  *goes to edit the wiki*  Looks like she's also starting to get the hang of more-normal speech.

Quote from: CoyoteCaliente on April 18, 2011, 01:52:28 AM

Quote from: OminousShadow on April 18, 2011, 12:52:18 AMIf that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

Technically, Fa'Lina isn't a clan leader. She has no clan.

I'm kind of wondering if the size has to do with how much power they have, and if Fa'Lina's smaller because of either lack of clan members - as you mentioned - or her using so much of her power to maintain the academy.  Of course, she could always just be shifting herself so that she's smaller...

She is still tall, though.

Quote from: Shachza on April 18, 2011, 01:59:21 AMWait!  Cyra doesn't have a tail?!   :erk

Huh... Could be that it's just hidden behind everything, but come to look at it, yeah, I don't see a tail in any of her pictures.  If she is indeed tailless, I wonder what the story behind that would be?

... Not that I want to bother Amber with extra comics or anything. ^_^;  Just curious is all.


And yeah, let's not let Dan's eyes be ruined again please.  ~_^

I am noticing a lot more detail in the backgrounds and on the characters. Good Work, Amber!

The fact that she snuck up on him is impressive O.o

I find the concept of Cyra sneaking up on Dan to be childish... and something she might do...

If I saw Cyra like that in real life... I would ask her to marry me.  I know she would say no (or yes just to mess with my head) but she is surprisingly attractive ...And in this case I mean it exactly as it sounds, her wingspan is beautiful.

I have two primary (fantasy) interest in women.  Hot amazon and sexy librarian, Cyra qualifies as a sexy librarian.

Quote from: OminousShadow on April 18, 2011, 12:52:18 AM
If that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

Well, it would freak the students out and be very inconvenient in terms of the buildings having to be vastly larger just for her.  Better to assume a size closer to that of the people you're going to be working with, I'd say.

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 02:10:51 AM
Huh... Could be that it's just hidden behind everything, but come to look at it, yeah, I don't see a tail in any of her pictures.  If she is indeed tailless, I wonder what the story behind that would be?

I think Amber once said that there was a tail in there somewhere, but usually it gets lost in her massive hairdo.

Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on April 18, 2011, 01:34:24 AM
Ok, so Cubi clan leaders are large in general.

[Makes a note of that]

Quote
Question is, where are Dan and Cyra right now? Is this... taking place in the "dream world?" Like a chat room formed from their minds where they influence the environment?

Dan hit his head on the roof of the inn - I'm pretty sure that this is happening in his head through some mechanism similar to dream-surfing, rather than him being physically teleported there.

Quote from: Maark30 on April 18, 2011, 01:26:40 AM
Alas the advantage (or disadvantage depending on your point of view) of a static medium... without movement you don't have clothing malfunctions.  :mowsad

... Now, where was that link again? I'm sure I remember someone sending me a link to a clothing malfunction in a conversation between Abel and Fa'Lina...

Of course, the strip itself is NSFW, and hence not allowed to be posted here. :-/

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 18, 2011, 03:24:48 AM
... Now, where was that link again? I'm sure I remember someone sending me a link to a clothing malfunction in a conversation between Abel and Fa'Lina...

I think I saw that too somewhere, nearly took out one of his eyes I believe. Though I can't remember when or where I saw it.

Quote from: OminousShadow on April 18, 2011, 12:52:18 AM
If that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

:shapeshifters
I rather not have used the "you moron" part, but it is part of the image so nothing I can do about it (well, I can but I'm too lazy to fire up photoshop just for that).

I like the theory that Fa'Lina is small because she is a clanless clanleader and has less power because of that. Though from what I understood it was the clanleaders that provided the power to the rest of the clan. Doesn't mean it doesn't work both ways though. But Cyra only has two members (whether or not Dan is counted as one in the Clan Leader pages I don't know) so she wouldn't be able to get much power via that way either.

this might be referring to Cyra's size on whatever plain Dan's interacting with her on.

whether it be auras, presence, or whichever, Cyra might have a large presence on one plain, but a more mundane one on the physical.


also, who votes she pays a visit to Lost lake in disguise?

Geez!  All these fan boys losing it over Cyra... stepping on their own tongues and making it unsafe to walk with all that drool...  Embarassing.   :/

(aside, blushing and bowing his head shyly) Um...  thank you for showing Cyra cuz she's so hot.  I want to marry her and/or die in her sweet embrace.  Now I see where Destania gets her hotness from.  And I must thank Cyra's tailor with a warm plate of cookies and a cash bribe.  :shy

Seriously, another great visual and interaction.  Plus, I love the "melange eyes" when Dan enters the dreamscape.

Quote from: LordViking on April 18, 2011, 05:08:12 AM
I rather not have used the "you moron" part, but it is part of the image so nothing I can do about it (well, I can but I'm too lazy to fire up photoshop just for that).

I assumed when we made it that most people would recognise it as a quote from the comic and take it in good faith :3

QuoteI like the theory that Fa'Lina is small because she is a clanless clanleader and has less power because of that. Though from what I understood it was the clanleaders that provided the power to the rest of the clan. Doesn't mean it doesn't work both ways though. But Cyra only has two members (whether or not Dan is counted as one in the Clan Leader pages I don't know) so she wouldn't be able to get much power via that way either.

My understanding is incomplete and may even be wrong, but from what I gather it works something like this:

'Cubi are normally energy feeders, and use this energy [which they can usually harvest via emotions, dreams and soul-stealing] to sustain themselves and perform feats of magic.
Ascending to tri-wing form initiates some kind of reaction that allows them to generate their own energy in vast quantities, enough to render them immortal (or ageless, since Amber's description seems to ruffle a few feathers).
So much more energy is generated than the tri-wing needs that it spills over to their clan-mates and renders them more powerful than a regular 'Cubi with no tri-winged Leader.

It has been suggested that the power is divvied up between the members, so the more you have the closer they get to the baseline as the power is diluted.  If Cyra's extra power is divided between just Destania and Dan, they are going to be pretty badass and unless Cyra dies, I'd imagine that Dan would automatically get a rather longer lifespan and more power than a regular 'Cubi would without having to resort to soul-stealing.

Quote from: LordViking on April 18, 2011, 05:08:12 AM

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 18, 2011, 03:24:48 AM
... Now, where was that link again? I'm sure I remember someone sending me a link to a clothing malfunction in a conversation between Abel and Fa'Lina...

I think I saw that too somewhere, nearly took out one of his eyes I believe. Though I can't remember when or where I saw it.

Found it. NOTE: THIS LINK IS NSFW, DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE UNDERAGE OR UNDER MANAGEMENT SUPERVISION. (http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/313212) I repeat - if you are unable to look at a "wardrobe malfunction", don't go here. But then, the site is "Rule 34", so one would think you'd been warned already...

I think that manages to cover the bases.

Quote from: LordViking on April 18, 2011, 05:08:12 AM
I like the theory that Fa'Lina is small because she is a clanless clanleader and has less power because of that. Though from what I understood it was the clanleaders that provided the power to the rest of the clan. Doesn't mean it doesn't work both ways though. But Cyra only has two members (whether or not Dan is counted as one in the Clan Leader pages I don't know) so she wouldn't be able to get much power via that way either.

I'm of the opinion that Fa'Lina is the size she is because she wishes to be.

Quote from: OminousShadow on April 18, 2011, 12:52:18 AM
If that is the natural size of a clan leader, why isn't Fa'Lina that big?

Well, it's a vision. If I remember correctly, we haven't ever, so far, seen Cyra outside of dream visions - I might be wrong, but wasn't there even a mention in some comic that she doesn't even have a physical body anymore?
My impression so far was always that Cyra's size is more a metaphorical, in the sense that she is the embodiment of her clan and her spirit may spread out over the whole size of it, watching all its members and giving them power. I thought of her as large in "le clan cest moi" kind of way, if that makes any sense...

Whether there is any truth in that or not, I'm particularly impressed by the size of her jewellery. (And also proud to be probably the first guy in history to use that statement without innuendo) It's always nice if you can deal with - say - an attacking, fully grown Gryphon by a simple swing of your head.

Unrelated, anyone else imagine her speaking lines with that reverse echo effect the Protoss had in Starcraft 1?  8) (Not sure right now if they still have it in 2) Because that would sound just awesome.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 18, 2011, 06:19:36 AM
I'm of the opinion that Fa'Lina is the size she is because she wishes to be.

I fully agree. Fa'Lina isn't small, she's just a different kind of large.
*hides*

We saw a clan leader fighting a dragon before. They were the same size. I believe Cyra is speaking plainly: that is the natural size for a clan leader. Fa'Lina is not that size probably because she's chosen not to be, for the sake of convenience.

Quote from: Wanderer on April 18, 2011, 07:24:37 AM
Fa'Lina is not that size probably because she's chosen not to be, for the sake of convenience.

But that's kind of the point - they can change their size at will. Why would they decide to stomp around as giants in every day life? That'd be extremely impractical. :)

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 05:48:11 AM

(What Tapewolf said)

If tri-wings generate more energy than they have to and so they send the rest to the clan, then maybe it's not the size of the clan that determines how bit the clan leader but rather the lack of clan.
If you think about it, SAIA is sort of like Fa'linas clan so she gives her exes of power to the cubi there which in turn makes her smaller but on the other hand Cyra has only got 2 members so she doesn't have enough people to send all the exes energy to and in turn it all goes to her size.

Yet more adjustments to D&DFMA. Clan leader's natural size is colossal. :>

I don't think I can add anything more constructive here than what's already been said. Amber has come so freakin' far that the millennium falcon would have a hard time keeping up.

I was in class one day, and showed an artist how persistence and dedication pays off in art-style. I flicked to the start of the archive of DMFA "This is where she started." and then to the current comic "And this is where she is some thousand strips later. See?" and their reaction was "HOLY ****". And then of course they went into that artisticy self-emo thing omaigodI'llneverbethatgood yadda yadda. -.-

AMBER! SPREAD SOME OF YOUR ARTISTIC PROWESS TO MY STUPID CLASSMATES. XD

Quote from: Garsemor on April 18, 2011, 07:51:02 AM
If tri-wings generate more energy than they have to and so they send the rest to the clan, then maybe it's not the size of the clan that determines how bit the clan leader but rather the lack of clan.

As has been mentioned, Siar had about 2000 clan members and was still dragon-sized.  I think Tri-wings simply are that big in their unaltered basic form.

I love Cyra's outfit here. Just the style, it looks very oriental to me.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 08:56:22 AM
As has been mentioned, Siar had about 2000 clan members and was still dragon-sized.  I think Tri-wings simply are that big in their unaltered basic form.

Yew would be correct. (This is gonna get mentioned in the comic in the future, so I figure its not too much a spoiler to clear things up now)  Tri-Wings are naturally really big.   Usually if you are seeing a normal-sized one (like Fa'Lina), they have either shapeshifted themselves smaller...or more likely they are simply using an aspect puppet or proxy of themselves to interract with folks while their true selves are hidden elsewhere.   The aspect, while powerful, is not really the clan leader themselves but simply a small subset of them.   Which is convenient since even if you somehow "kill" the aspect, you haven't really done anything to the clan leader themselves other than inconveniencing them.  However, it's not something clan leaders like to do anymore since during the dragon-cubi war, a big downfall was that some creatures would simply follow the link the aspect has with the actual clan leader and go after the clan leader themselves via it. (Sort of the inverse of what happened to Siar where her link to her clan members was used to track them down)

It is very very unlikely in the event someone encounters a clan leader, that they are actually encountering the actual clan leader.

Huh....So, which one of those two is probably more likely in Fa'lina's case? Shapeshifting or puppet thingy?

But now we get some additional information how Tri-wings fought dragons possibly durring the war.

It's a far cry from when you just think about how someones Fa'lina's size fights a dragon. You could have a dragon on tri-wing rolling over their respective armies trying to kill one another when magic wasn't working for them to well.

Gosh, battles between tri-wings and dragons must have been some of the nastiest battles in the history of Furrae.

Think DP and Dan's last seen battle and magnified by ten. :erk

Makes the whole "Imagine this is your spine" discussion have a much deeper context.  

If only a fraction of the power involved can powder a spine, the full fury/strength of a Tri-Wing leader must be truly something to behold.  

Or why it was actually a *war* and not the 'Cubi Massacre'.  

Also makes the idea of a draconic sacrifice of some sort for the empowerment of a Tri-Wing a *lot* more consistent.


And Josh, I think the power magnification you're looking at is something on the scale of a thousand, or million times what the DP/Dan fight was.

Quote from: Techcubi on April 18, 2011, 10:56:34 AM
Huh....So, which one of those two is probably more likely in Fa'lina's case? Shapeshifting or puppet thingy?

That would be telling. *grin*

Quote from: Techcubi on April 18, 2011, 10:56:34 AMHuh....So, which one of those two is probably more likely in Fa'lina's case? Shapeshifting or puppet thingy?

I'm guessing either puppets, or a bit of both.  It would explain the rumor that Fa'lina can be in more than one place at the same time. *pokes cast page* :3

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 12:52:31 PM
I'm guessing either puppets, or a bit of both.  It would explain the rumor that Fa'lina can be in more than one place at the same time. *pokes cast page* :3

And it would likely make it more awkward for her to leave the Academy.

Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on April 18, 2011, 06:56:08 AM
(And also proud to be probably the first guy in history to use that statement without innuendo)

Man card revoked!!

Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on April 18, 2011, 06:56:08 AM
I fully agree. Fa'Lina isn't small, she's just a different kind of large.
*hides*

Man card reinstated!!

*runs off*

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 01:12:14 PM

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 12:52:31 PM
I'm guessing either puppets, or a bit of both.  It would explain the rumor that Fa'lina can be in more than one place at the same time. *pokes cast page* :3

And it would likely make it more awkward for her to leave the Academy.

Maybe puppet's are the only way for her to really communicate face to face.

If shape shifting powers really get a boost like other traits with a third set of wings it might be that her entire body makes up the academy. It might also explain why she likes to use puppets more when manipulating others. :P

*Charles STARES!*  Oh... my... god!  She has two gigantic, enormous, gargantuan... PEARLS!!  Do you see how big they are, dangling from her hair on the ground?  They must be worth a fortune!  If I can get one, I'll be rich!   >:]

Quote from: Amber Williams on April 18, 2011, 10:45:02 AM
Tri-Wings are naturally really big.

Now I'm wondering what happens if someone like Jyrras ascends.   Probably you just get a half-height Tri-wing...

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 01:12:14 PM

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 12:52:31 PMI'm guessing either puppets, or a bit of both.  It would explain the rumor that Fa'lina can be in more than one place at the same time. *pokes cast page* :3

And it would likely make it more awkward for her to leave the Academy.

Awkward as in difficult, or awkward as in odd?  (Or both?)  If it's the first, I was thinking maybe that's why she uses Warp-Aci to get around instead of just teleporting?

@Alondro/Charles: Yeah, she seems to like those sphere-things.  Personally, I wonder whether or not they're shifted.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/DPTDTKF/Smileys/Aizen/AIswink.gif) Planning to steal one? Good luck with that, mister.

@Tapewolf: If we could get Dimanika to stand next to Cyra...

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
Awkward as in difficult, or awkward as in odd?  (Or both?)  If it's the first, I was thinking maybe that's why she uses Warp-Aci to get around instead of just teleporting?

Cumbersome, I was thinking.  You might, for example, have the effect seen in Vernor Vinge's short, Bookworm, Run! where the control link deteriorates the further your avatar is from the source.

QuoteTapewolf: If we could get Dimanika to stand next to Cyra...

Oh, good call.  I knew I should have looked through the leaders before posting that...

Quote from: Infranscia on April 18, 2011, 12:52:31 PM

Quote from: Techcubi on April 18, 2011, 10:56:34 AMHuh....So, which one of those two is probably more likely in Fa'lina's case? Shapeshifting or puppet thingy?

I'm guessing either puppets, or a bit of both.  It would explain the rumor that Fa'lina can be in more than one place at the same time. *pokes cast page* :3

And on top of that, she usually shows herself as a normal Cubi, instead of a Tri Wing !

Quote from: Techcubi on April 18, 2011, 10:56:34 AM
Huh....So, which one of those two is probably more likely in Fa'lina's case? Shapeshifting or puppet thingy?

Well, as much as she likes puppets, my vote is for shapeshifting.  Fa'Lina is a very hands-on person.  Doing things by remote avatar seems too impersonal for someone like her.

Quote from: AxiLarin on April 18, 2011, 02:50:40 PM
Well, as much as she likes puppets, my vote is for shapeshifting.  Fa'Lina is a very hands-on person.  Doing things by remote avatar seems too impersonal for someone like her.

I agree - considering how much fun she was having with the whole "no running in the halls" thing. I mean, clotheslining someone just requires that personal touch to be truly satisfying.

Alright I'm not sure if this has died down, but I figured I'd just slide it in near the end of the discussion. This is just an opinion, nothing more, and an opinion that hopefully will be accepted without harsh judgement or too many raised eyebrows.

*ahem*

Cyra is a total gmilf.

Juuuuust saying.

Quote from: CoyoteCaliente on April 18, 2011, 04:41:13 PM
Alright I'm not sure if this has died down, but I figured I'd just slide it in near the end of the discussion. This is just an opinion, nothing more, and an opinion that hopefully will be accepted without harsh judgement or too many raised eyebrows.

*ahem*

Cyra is a total gmilf.

Juuuuust saying.

Hahahaha... I second that assessment.  :mowwink

Cyra which a bit like cyan, which is blue, who has blue fur, blue feathers, a blue clan symbol and who's clan trait is all eyes are blu....green.

With Fa'Lina's love for puppets I suspect this is what she uses most. It could explain how she can be everywhere inside SAIA, though since SAIA is in her own private pocket space  she has full control in there anyway.
But for someone that likes puppets as much as she does making the whole world think a puppet is you must have some appeal.

Quote from: MT Hazard on April 18, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Cyra which a bit like cyan, which is blue, who has blue fur, blue feathers, a blue clan symbol and who's clan trait is all eyes are blu....green.

Well, that just blue the pattern, didn't it--except that Dan's eyes glowed blue when he entered the dreamscape.

It also brings to mind how does a family reunion work for a tri-wing clan.

When you have the size of a dragon, does it make you the center of the festivities? >:3

... Conspiracy theory time! If Fa'Lina is using a puppet, and Mab has said that Fa'Lina will die "soon," what if she's just referring to Fa'Lina as we know her (the puppet) dying and not Fa'Lina herself? D:

Quote from: tiggertoo on April 18, 2011, 03:24:58 PMI mean, clotheslining someone just requires that personal touch to be truly satisfying.

Wasn't it more like brickwalling?

With Fa'lina's fixation on puppets....  I'm gonna say puppets!

Of course the augment for personal cloths lining has its merits!   :)

So Dimanika is a dragon sized mouse, no wonder why her favorate emotion is confusion.

Quote from: ishidan on April 18, 2011, 07:35:33 PM

Quote from: MT Hazard on April 18, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Cyra which a bit like cyan, which is blue, who has blue fur, blue feathers, a blue clan symbol and who's clan trait is all eyes are blu....green.

Well, that just blue the pattern, didn't it--except that Dan's eyes glowed blue when he entered the dreamscape.

That they did, but you would expect their irises to be blue normally. They also got stuck with the least interesting clan trait (apart from not having clan trait), the others have things like naturally glowing eyes, extra tentacles, always giving birth to twins/girls and Cyra have...all the same eye color. Guess the new clan on the block doesn't get the first pick of traits. Greens a nice eye color though.

My guess? Fa'Lina either is maintaining the size she was before she became a Tri-wing, or she lost her size when she didn't have a clan anymore.
This whole 'natural size of a clan leader' thing makes me think that this must make it a whole lost easier to fight dragons, at least on a physical level, ignoring magic.

Quote from: Maark30 on April 18, 2011, 01:26:40 AM
Alas the advantage (or disadvantage depending on your point of view) of a static medium... without movement you don't have clothing malfunctions.  :mowsad

I think that it may very well be impossible for 'cubi to have a clothing malfunction.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 03:23:52 AM

Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on April 18, 2011, 01:34:24 AM
Question is, where are Dan and Cyra right now? Is this... taking place in the "dream world?" Like a chat room formed from their minds where they influence the environment?Or is Cyra on some far off world/plane of existence, and Dan is being "projected" in the environment?

Dan hit his head on the roof of the inn - I'm pretty sure that this is happening in his head through some mechanism similar to dream-surfing, rather than him being physically teleported there.

I believe the question was not refering to physical transportation, but instead to something akin to an astral projection.
My personal take is that what's happening is a mixture of these option.

Quote from: Turnsky on April 18, 2011, 05:33:24 AM
also, who votes she pays a visit to Lost lake in disguise?

I don't. She made it pretty clear that to meet in person something would have to be arranged. (Though Dan was a mite too busy at the time to notice...)

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 05:48:11 AM
I'd imagine that Dan would automatically get a rather longer lifespan and more power than a regular 'Cubi would without having to resort to soul-stealing.

Because I'm sure that's exactly what Dan wants.

Quote from: Amber Williams on April 18, 2011, 10:45:02 AM
Tri-Wings are naturally really big.   Usually if you are seeing a normal-sized one (like Fa'Lina), they have either shapeshifted themselves smaller...or more likely they are simply using an aspect puppet or proxy of themselves to interract with folks while their true selves are hidden elsewhere.   The aspect, while powerful, is not really the clan leader themselves but simply a small subset of them.   Which is convenient since even if you somehow "kill" the aspect, you haven't really done anything to the clan leader themselves other than inconveniencing them.  However, it's not something clan leaders like to do anymore since during the dragon-cubi war, a big downfall was that some creatures would simply follow the link the aspect has with the actual clan leader and go after the clan leader themselves via it. (Sort of the inverse of what happened to Siar where her link to her clan members was used to track them down)

It is very very unlikely in the event someone encounters a clan leader, that they are actually encountering the actual clan leader.

Well then. O.o

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 18, 2011, 01:12:14 PM
And it would likely make it more awkward for her to leave the Academy.

In a sense... she never does.
Oh, and TrueFacts: Fa'Lina is the Academy. (And the vore fans go wild~~~)

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on April 18, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
And on top of that, she usually shows herself as a normal Cubi, instead of a Tri Wing !

Yeah, you probably can't transform a puppet, so it would make more sense to just run around with your headwings out.

I believe Fa'Lina has been morphing her wings, so if it is a puppet, she can transform it.

Personally, I think wether or not it is a puppet is less important, than the idea that she is kinda holding a low profile.
Well .. as low as it can get when you are a pink poodle.

:D

Okay. Now for speculation on where Cyra is located.

From the looks of it, she's in space on a stage backdrop of a beach, with ornamental plants about.
That... or she's been living in billboard signs.

Quote from:
Why are my April showers full of snow!

That's because of your cold, dark heart.
How could you go and keep all of that snow to your self? Where's my snow-filled April showers Amber! D:<
I mean really.

Edit: <SNIP!>

Re Fa'Lina.

End Edit -- llearch

Wasn't she losing her ablility to predict the future because she was away from the academy during the Alexsi gets kidnapped arc? Wouldn't that mean she goes by the personal touch instead of puppets? After all, what kind of problems could there be if a PUPPET left the academy?

Edit: Silly long copy-pastes of other people's page-long discussions with a two-line comment at the end will be replaced, in the future, with anything I feel appropriate. This includes replacing the entire content of the post with a picture making fun of the poster, or indeed anything else that happens to tickle my fancy at the time.

You have been warned.

  -- llearch

Another thing I noticed about Tri-wings is you never really see more then one of them in one place.

As well as how much more mature the tri-wings look compared mostly to just standard cubi (Dimanika possibly being an exception). I wonder if more then just size changes when you make a change like that. Like your outlook on life.

This picture just reminds me of that. Is it an intentional focus of Amber's art to make tri-wings look more mature or are Fa'lina and Cyra just come out looking like that on chance to me?

Quote from: Techcubi on April 19, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
Wasn't she losing her ablility to predict the future because she was away from the academy during the Alexsi gets kidnapped arc? Wouldn't that mean she goes by the personal touch instead of puppets? After all, what kind of problems could there be if a PUPPET left the academy?

You might want to edit down the impressive amount of stuff you've quoted there before one of the other moderators pitches a fit.

Regarding Fa'Lina's foresight, I think what that actually meant was that she can only see things inside SAIA, and people who have just left.  And when Abel left, she was only be able to see his future for about two months after he left.
(As another example, she was able to see that Aniz lived for at least two months after he left the Academy)

Quote from: joshofspam on April 19, 2011, 06:27:52 PM
Another thing I noticed about Tri-wings is you never really see more then one of them in one place.

There aren't many of them and AFAIK the Dragons tried to exterminate them all.  That might seem like a good reason to remain hidden or holed up in some kind of hyperrealm a'la Fa'Lina...

Certainly makes it a sad existence for Fa'lina. I could imagine why the academy is her way to make up what her friend had taken from her.

I wonder if the loss of a clan is ant better the the loss of a tri-wing leader. It certainly doesn't sound any better mentally. But I would think link severing would work both ways.

Thanks Tape.

In loosing a clan leader the Cubi have lost a parent.  In loosing a Clan the clan leader has lost ALL of her children.  This is a very painful thing to happen energy flow or not.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 19, 2011, 06:54:07 PM
You might want to edit down the impressive amount of stuff you've quoted there before one of the other moderators pitches a fit.

Hey! I resemble that remark! >.<

Ah, but a good fit, deserves a good pitch !
How else would salesmen still be in business ?

:D

Can Dan's eyes do that at any other time? And if not, can he check in with Cyra more often? Because damn that effect looks good on him.

Quote from: Thirty Second Artbomb on April 20, 2011, 06:18:46 PM
Can Dan's eyes do that at any other time? And if not, can he check in with Cyra more often? Because damn that effect looks good on him.

This has happened to Abel a couple of times while casting certain spells (speed-reading and morphing Dan spring to mind).  I guess it's a magic thing.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 20, 2011, 07:05:40 PM

Quote from: Thirty Second Artbomb on April 20, 2011, 06:18:46 PM
Can Dan's eyes do that at any other time? And if not, can he check in with Cyra more often? Because damn that effect looks good on him.

This has happened to Abel a couple of times while casting certain spells (speed-reading and morphing Dan spring to mind).  I guess it's a magic thing.

It is so last strip's fashion.

Quote from: joshofspam on April 19, 2011, 06:27:52 PM
. . . Is it an intentional focus of Amber's art to make tri-wings look more mature or are Fa'lina and Cyra just come out looking like that on chance . . . ?

I for one think that Amber has matured the entire art style of all of her characters to try and compensate for this. They are after all larger and more slender, more detail can be fit in, and they really didn't mesh with the rather chibi-esque style of 2007.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 20, 2011, 07:05:40 PM
I guess it's a magic thing.

Well... duh.

Well, considering that most Cubi clan leaders are thousands of years old, and probably have had quite a few children before they ascended, it kinda follows that they have to be a bit more mature than the average cubi.

... well, apart from Dimanika, but I'm not sure if she counts like everyone else does.  :D

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on April 21, 2011, 08:49:23 AM
Well, considering that most Cubi clan leaders are thousands of years old, and probably have had quite a few children before they ascended, it kinda follows that they have to be a bit more mature than the average cubi.

... well, apart from Dimanika, but I'm not sure if she counts like everyone else does.  :D

Physical, mental, and emotional maturity are all very different things. You seem to be referring to the latter, while the discussion was referring to the physical, as in relation to Amber's art style and how it differs from other characters.

Also, having children does not automatically maturity make :P


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Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 22, 2011, 06:48:36 PM
Also, having children does not automatically maturity make :P

And how!

Somehow I just knew that you in particular would have something to say on the matter ;)

True enough, true enough ... but being shapeshifters, would it not be quite likely that the physical image of them would often follow their emotional maturity ?