And so, Abel wanders off into the sunset, with Jy Squeak left embarrassed and confused
At first I was asking myself "Why can't Abel just shape-shift some clothes in?" Then again, I suppose trying to shape-shift would be rather hard while experiencing a hang-over that feels like one's head has been "... stuffed full of cotton and broken glass."
Ya gotta give Abel credit... he is very creative.
GAH! You beat me by 24 seconds!
Quote from: Basilisk on February 19, 2011, 01:32:03 AM
And so, Abel wanders off into the sunset, with Jy Squeak left embarrassed and confused
I must admit... Abel is resourceful.
And I thought that paperclips to scissors was impressive :U
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on February 19, 2011, 01:36:05 AM
GAH! You beat me by 24 seconds!
I even gave you guys a good head start... <.< I mean, especially when you considering where i'm chillaxin at the moment.
Also, what's up with Abel's hatred of a covered midriff?
I guess he doesn't like shirts but does like long sleeves.
I would had named this topic different. [the case of the missing bedsheets]
Nice trick with the bedsheets.
Panel 1 is interesting, though - it looks like Fa'Lina told him he had impending mental issues. Makes me wonder why she forced him into the outside world, though - if Aniz is anything to go by, insanity isn't (wasn't?) considered much of a defence should he lash out in a moment of insanity.
Maybe she was gambling that Dan would return full-time before Abel broke down...?
It could be that Fa'Lina told him that he would have mental issues if he kept pushing people away and didn't make any friends. In that case, sending him with Dan would be an attempt to eliminate mental issues.
Quote from: Basilisk on February 19, 2011, 01:51:40 AM
Also, what's up with Abel's hatred of a covered midriff?
... *ahem*
He's. Too sexy for a shirt. Too sexy for a shirt so sexy it hurts! :P
Anyways, for some reason he seems very young in the first and third panels. Also, gotta wonder why he chose to make tight pants out of the bedsheets.
How odd that the bedsheets happen to match his overall coloration. I wonder if that'll be the colors of the clan he founds?
Amber Fashions for the Adorable Yaoi Boy
I see a whole new business here. :)
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: Inumo on February 19, 2011, 09:39:25 AM
Also, gotta wonder why he chose to make tight pants out of the bedsheets.
Probably the only way to hold it all together...
Yes, I guess using a bedsheet for clothing is easier if you consider shirts "special occasions only" pices of clothing.
Also, Jyrras' remarkably cheery smile in the last panel. Coincidence?
Welcome back Amber .. and Abel ! :)
Once again, it seems his creative side is not to be suppressed.
I wonder what other ways he has for that ?
We know he likes to decorate interiors and make clothes.
Maybe he's an outstanding sculptor as well ?
Quote from: Basilisk on February 19, 2011, 01:51:40 AMAlso, what's up with Abel's hatred of a covered midriff?
This comic is drawn by a girl. ;)
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 19, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
This comic is drawn by a girl. ;)
Noooo... there's clearly a perfectly reasoneable in-world explanation for this. Like midriffchlorians or something.
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on February 19, 2011, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 19, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
This comic is drawn by a girl. ;)
Noooo... there's clearly a perfectly reasoneable in-world explanation for this. Like midriffchlorians or something.
It's hard to make a shirt that fits well when you have wings?
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 19, 2011, 12:53:38 PM
It's hard to make a shirt that fits well when you have wings?
That seems to be a solved problem:
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1113.php
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1115.php
...I think he just likes it that way, (or Amber does or something)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 19, 2011, 12:57:45 PM
...I think he just likes it that way, (or Amber does or something)
I'd say it's Amber's personal preference myself...Less she has to draw ;)
As for the 'inevitable crack' mentioned in the first panel, perhaps it's something inherent to members of Siar's clan, or more to the point, children of Aniz? Fa'Lina herself had made mention of his own instability/ unpredictability when Abel first came to SAIA..Very curious indeed :batman
Yay! Amber's back! /glomp-su :3
I never thought I would ever see so much and such effective use of Home Ec as I have in this arc.
Abel would totally kick tail on Project Runway. If he wasn't dying to finish his training of Dan and get back to SAIA, he could easily open up a clothing store next to Matilda's place and make some mad loot.
And I understand about the Wheel of Car Repair. It's like, "Let's see what repair we'll need this month! ... Brakes. Always lovely."
Quote from: AxiLarin on February 19, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
If he wasn't dying to finish his training of Dan and get back to SAIA, he could easily open up a clothing store next to Matilda's place and make some mad loot.
Quite a good job for a 'Cubi.
"Hello, do you have -"
"Upstairs, second shelf on the right."
already did that gag in OSaS, FYI :P
But yea, could be entertaining to see in comic format
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 19, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: AxiLarin on February 19, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
If he wasn't dying to finish his training of Dan and get back to SAIA, he could easily open up a clothing store next to Matilda's place and make some mad loot.
Quite a good job for a 'Cubi.
"Hello, do you have -"
"Upstairs, second shelf on the right."
That'd actually be pretty hilarious to watch when someone would walk in the door...
Quote from: D'ymkarra on February 19, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 19, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: AxiLarin on February 19, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
If he wasn't dying to finish his training of Dan and get back to SAIA, he could easily open up a clothing store next to Matilda's place and make some mad loot.
Quite a good job for a 'Cubi.
"Hello, do you have -"
"Upstairs, second shelf on the right."
That'd actually be pretty hilarious to watch when someone would walk in the door...
*Ding*
"Hello."
"No, you may not stand there watching me read customers' minds as they come in my door!"
Lets face facts, if Abel spent all day reading his customers minds he would go on a killing spree from the brain numbing he would get. :mowcookie
But doing fashion design would most likely fit his fun bill. He might also make a great restaurateur. There is a lot that Abel could do in the world if he really wanted to get on with his life and leave SAIA.
Apologize if I am under a rock here, but what is family day?
Quote from: lilpuppy23 on February 20, 2011, 01:34:32 AM
Apologize if I am under a rock here, but what is family day?
It's a Canada thing, eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Day_(Canada) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Day_(Canada))
Why no, I have no idea how Wikipedia got those parentheses into their URL.
:erk But. They. Did. :erk
Edit: Fixed your link.
-- llearch
Quote from: Attic Rat on February 20, 2011, 01:47:14 AM
Quote from: lilpuppy23 on February 20, 2011, 01:34:32 AM
Apologize if I am under a rock here, but what is family day?
It's a Canada thing, eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Day_(Canada)
Why no, I have no idea how Wikipedia got those parentheses into their URL.
:erk But. They. Did. :erk
The actual URL is a string of charcters that a wepage can have in place of ( ), wiki-codeing just redirects you to the prooper page.
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 20, 2011, 03:42:10 AM
The actual URL is a string of charcters that a wepage can have in place of ( ), wiki-codeing just redirects you to the prooper page.
I'm sorry? Which RFC were you referring to that disallows () in a URL? I don't recall that restriction...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2011, 07:06:30 AM
I'm sorry? Which RFC were you referring to that disallows () in a URL? I don't recall that restriction...
RFC 3986. (wikipedia) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding#Percent-encoding_in_a_URI)
Though I admit that those RFCs seem a little outdated or at least only applicable in theory. Apparently space chars aren't even allowed if they are percent-encoded, which evidently doesn't have much to do with real world URLs.
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on February 20, 2011, 07:33:26 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2011, 07:06:30 AM
I'm sorry? Which RFC were you referring to that disallows () in a URL? I don't recall that restriction...
RFC 3986. (wikipedia) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding#Percent-encoding_in_a_URI)
Though I admit that those RFCs seem a little outdated or at least only applicable in theory. Apparently space chars aren't even allowed if they are percent-encoded, which evidently doesn't have much to do with real world URLs.
... That says "
Reserved characters are those characters that sometimes have special meaning, while
unreserved characters have no such meaning." and also "When a character from the reserved set (a "reserved character") has special meaning (a "reserved purpose") in a certain context, and a URI scheme says that it is necessary to use that character for some
other purpose, then the character must be
percent-encoded."
While I'll admit that () are in the reserved list... it doesn't say that they must always be percent-encoded. It merely states that if, and only IF, they have a special meaning, AND you wish to use them without that meaning, then you MUST percent-encode them to preserve that (lack of) meaning.
In this case, they have no special meaning, and the only issue with them is that they will sometimes be interpreted by the shell or the OS prior to being handed to the browser (eg, with wget $URI); this is not, as far as the URI specification is concerned, something that the URI specification handles. Outside the purview of the RFC, as it were.
Am I wrong?
Quote from: Attic Rat on February 20, 2011, 01:47:14 AM
It's a Canada thing, eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Day_(Canada) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Day_(Canada))
I'd hardly call it a 'Canadian Thing' since quite a few provinces *don't* have it...
But maybe I'm just bitter since I'm in one of the ones that doesn't.
It's strange how Abel goes to all the trouble to not wear a shirt and he puts on sleeves. :P
So I see Amber makes a comeback with Shirtless Saturday. :boogie
Welcome back Amber.
I was going through the Demo 101 page when I noticed the "Religion/Gods: Currently Undisclosed" part.
Is it possible that one of Furrae's major faiths has very clear teachings on the unethical nature of shirt wearing males?
Just putting it out there.
Quote from: Ryy Lazurus on February 20, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
I was going through the Demo 101 page when I noticed the "Religion/Gods: Currently Undisclosed" part.
Is it possible that one of Furrae's major faiths has very clear teachings on the unethical nature of shirt wearing males?
Just putting it out there.
The God of Beefcake.
I wonder if he has a companion female Goddess of Slow-Motion Running.
Personally, in my opinion I would have reversed the colors on his pants, have white pants with a brown belt.....I think it would have looked a lot more chic. :3
Regardless, there's no denying Abel does have style! ;)
Quote from: AxiLarin on February 19, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
If he wasn't dying to finish his training of Dan and get back to SAIA, he could easily open up a clothing store next to Matilda's place and make some mad loot.
I totally agree with this! :mowhappy And here's to me hoping that it happens.... :eager
Wait, which province is Amber in?
Also, I personally love Family Day. Helps that I live in Alberta so I get the day off :D
Would anybody else love it if the clothes Abel designed became real?
I believe that Amber is currently living in an undisclosed location so that she can avoid the possibility of very mentally disturbed fans harassing her. This way, she only has to worry about the mildly disturbed fans on the forum.
Quote from: Ryy Lazurus on February 20, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
I was going through the Demo 101 page when I noticed the "Religion/Gods: Currently Undisclosed" part.
Is it possible that one of Furrae's major faiths has very clear teachings on the unethical nature of shirt wearing males?
Just putting it out there.
Please, that's even less likely than Aniz killing Edward and Quintinga, taking Edward's place, and hooking up with Destania to father Dan.
Quote from: Naldru on February 20, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
I believe that Amber is currently living in an undisclosed location so that she can avoid the possibility of very mentally disturbed fans harassing her. This way, she only has to worry about the mildly disturbed fans on the forum.
^^This.
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 20, 2011, 03:23:38 PM
Personally, in my opinion I would have reversed the colors on his pants, have white pants with a brown belt.....I think it would have looked a lot more chic. :3
I disagree. To have such a large amount of white on a person who already is somewhat white would make the pants blend in somewhat. In addition, the brown portions were made from a blanket, meaning they're warmer and sturdier than the white, which was likely the sheets or pillowcases.
Quote from: Ganurath on February 20, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Quote from: Ryy Lazurus on February 20, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
I was going through the Demo 101 page when I noticed the "Religion/Gods: Currently Undisclosed" part.
Is it possible that one of Furrae's major faiths has very clear teachings on the unethical nature of shirt wearing males?
Just putting it out there.
Please, that's even less likely than Aniz killing Edward and Quintinga, taking Edward's place, and hooking up with Destania to father Dan.
Nothing is less likely than that. That's like us never seeing Abel become a tri-wing.
Leave it to Able to craft an outfit that leaves his torso completely exposed.
I mean seriously now.
He's just teasing Jyrass.
Quote from: Icalasari on February 20, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
Would anybody else love it if the clothes Abel designed became real?
If it had a loose fitting shirt with detached sleeves instead of just sleeves I'd wear it. I'm not fit enough to go out without a shirt on.
i'm pondering just how the sleeves stay up aside from the suspension of disbelief. :P
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 21, 2011, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: Icalasari on February 20, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
Would anybody else love it if the clothes Abel designed became real?
If it had a loose fitting shirt with detached sleeves instead of just sleeves I'd wear it. I'm not fit enough to go out without a shirt on.
Well, it could easily be combined with a t shirt, or maybe a regular long sleeved shirt
Quote from: Turnsky on February 21, 2011, 12:28:47 AM
i'm pondering just how the sleeves stay up aside from the suspension of disbelief. :P
Well, in the real world, I'd imagine some straps would keep it up. Not sure how to explain it... Like nunchucks, I guess? *shrugs*
Quote from: Turnsky on February 21, 2011, 12:28:47 AM
i'm pondering just how the sleeves stay up aside from the suspension of disbelief. :P
I imagine the brown bits at the top of the sleeves are tight enough to secure them.
Quote from: Ganurath on February 21, 2011, 12:37:56 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 21, 2011, 12:28:47 AM
i'm pondering just how the sleeves stay up aside from the suspension of disbelief. :P
I imagine the brown bits at the top of the sleeves are tight enough to secure them.
Then how did he slide them on? :P
Although one could hide drawstrings in them...
There are lots of things that could be used to make the sleeves stay. Maybe he found some elastic. Or made his arms get thin, pull up the sleeve and make his arm normal sized again.
Pfft, those aren't sleeves .. they are tube sucks !! :D
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on February 20, 2011, 07:33:26 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2011, 07:06:30 AM
I'm sorry? Which RFC were you referring to that disallows () in a URL? I don't recall that restriction...
RFC 3986. (wikipedia) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding#Percent-encoding_in_a_URI)
Though I admit that those RFCs seem a little outdated or at least only applicable in theory. Apparently space chars aren't even allowed if they are percent-encoded, which evidently doesn't have much to do with real world URLs.
Ah ... as long as an URL meets the DNS standards to locate a server (anything before the third / character, ie.
http://www.example.com:port/), then most DNS servers on the net won't even look at the rest, that's up to the webserver in question to handle and they just shunt it along, correct or not.
So if Wikipedia thinks using ( ) is cool, they just code their webserver for it.
It's not strictly standard, but it works quite well for the ISP's to handle it this way.
Quote from: Maark30 on February 21, 2011, 01:45:02 AMOr made his arms get thin, pull up the sleeve and make his arm normal sized again.
...Right, Cubi, I forgot
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 21, 2011, 01:50:16 AM
Ah ... as long as an URL meets the DNS standards to locate a server (anything before the third / character, ie. http://www.example.com:port/), then most DNS servers on the net won't even look at the rest, that's up to the webserver in question to handle and they just shunt it along, correct or not.
Wot? What do DNS servers have to do with shunting traffic along? DNS merely responds to your browser; your browser then contacts the webserver directly.
You're correct that the DNS is correlated to the hostname:port part, but... since wikipedia runs in apache, "they coded their webserver for it" is a little overstating things. Apache deals with it because apache deals with it. And Apache deals with it by forwarding it to the wikimedia app that runs wikipedia, which then translates it to it's internal format to identify which document it refers to, retrieve that from MySQL, and return it - I presume wikipedia is using MySQL internally, but that's up to them.
I'm not sure where you get your ideas from, but they seem a little inaccurate...
I take it from the lack of updates that Photoshop is still giving Amber problems. I'll just check back on Friday.
Quote from: Inumo on February 20, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
...the brown portions were made from a blanket, meaning they're warmer and sturdier than the white, which was likely the sheets or pillowcases.
And this is an issue because...? Where did we ever see winter weather being an issue in Furrae?
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 22, 2011, 11:37:23 AM
Quote from: Inumo on February 20, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
...the brown portions were made from a blanket, meaning they're warmer and sturdier than the white, which was likely the sheets or pillowcases.
And this is an issue because...? Where did we ever see winter weather being an issue in Furrae?
Sturdier might be an issue, though.
Hmm... I'm kind of wondering who told Abel that he would crack. Admittedly, Fa'Lina is the first person to come to mind, though that's likely because of how big of a role she plays in Abel's Story. To me, it seems more like the type of thing Destania would say, though. I mean, Fa'Lina seems more likely to try to help prevent such a 'crack,' while Destania seems like the type to taunt Abel with such things.
Of course, we don't know the context of Abel's thought in panel one. Still, my opinion.
(Warning: Nerd rant follows)Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2011, 08:02:09 AM
While I'll admit that () are in the reserved list... it doesn't say that they must always be percent-encoded. It merely states that if, and only IF, they have a special meaning, AND you wish to use them without that meaning, then you MUST percent-encode them to preserve that (lack of) meaning.
[...]
Am I wrong?
Well, I haven't checked if the HTTP scheme defines a "special meaning" for parentheses, but judging from a few non-representative tests, you seem to be right. Firefox sends them over the wire unencrypted. Dammit. :U
But the conversion rules as defined in the spec seem to be pretty insane anyway. According to them, two following two URLs are equivalent:
http://example.com/foo??
http://example.com/foo?%3F
(Where "%3F" is the percent-encoding for "?")
But this one isn't:
http://example.com/foo%3F?Considering how most software treats URLs as opaque strings, I'd like to know how many people got that right when implementing that stuff...
(End of nerd rant. Thank you for your patience)
It's not _that_ insane.
The first two are a URI consisting of "http://example.com/foo", with a query string of "?" or "%3F"; since the query string is interpreted by browser, it makes sense that it should decode it first to ? or ?. Both of them tell the webserver to return /foo - unless the webserver is being clever.
The third one, however, is telling the webserver to return /foo%3F which I'm sure you'll agree is a totally different file, or at least could well be. From there, the browser is taking that and parsing the html and then applying a query string of "", which may or may not be useful.
When you look at it that way, they're consistent, if not easily followed. The browser should parse the query string, the webserver should not.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2011, 07:43:55 AM
It's not _that_ insane.
Well, alright. how about a little bit insane?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2011, 07:43:55 AM
When you look at it that way, they're consistent, if not easily followed.
I didn't say they are inconsistent. I just mean that that definition is needlessly complicated and counter-intuitive and thus people who don't bother reading the spec have probably implemented it in all sorts of different ways. And I just find it kind of irksome that you need detailed knowledge about each url type to implement something as simple as a comparison.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2011, 07:43:55 AM
The browser should parse the query string, the webserver should not.
Are you sure you don't mean the # sign? For all I know, paths and query strings are server business and browsers pass both of them on to the server and don't do much with them otherwise. This is why I found it counter-intuitive - browsers don't have to distinguish between path and query string at all - except for percent encoding apparently.
I agree though, that this is how they should be parsed on the server.
Ah, you're right. I was thinking # - however, my point was that everything before the query string (the ?) is pointing to a file. Everything afterwards gets handled by the handler for that file type.
Which is not as clear-cut as it could be, I'll admit.