So ... I was reading through the clans in the Demo. 101 section.
Now I was wondering if Taun can inact a ritual that allows an adventurer to become a cubi, would Fa'lina be similarly capable? I know it says you can't convert a cubi over to a clan with no members, but can you create a cubi from a non-cubi individual under a memberless clan? I dunno I think that is Fa'lina could she might have already tried by now, but then maybe she's just waiting for the right individual to come along.
Perhaps it's a bit fanboyish but I wanna know ... Let's face it the Hope Clan being without any Hope is pretty ironic or at least a little depressing.
I believe I read somewhere that by turning a being into a cubi personally, the strength of the cubi doing it is lessened. I doubt Fa'Lina would risk that when she needs to keep SAIA in working order, even if it would work.
Quote from: SilentSoror on November 01, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Now I was wondering if Taun can inact a ritual that allows an adventurer to become a cubi, would Fa'lina be similarly capable? I know it says you can't convert a cubi over to a clan with no members, but can you create a cubi from a non-cubi individual under a memberless clan?
I think you need an existing clan member for that too, from what I've heard.
Quote from: Howl on November 01, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
I believe I read somewhere that by turning a being into a cubi personally, the strength of the cubi doing it is lessened. I doubt Fa'Lina would risk that when she needs to keep SAIA in working order, even if it would work.
But a creature to cubi may not be so much a strain. Pyro may volunteer. Of course, the rules or the power need to do it would harder with a dragon. or something.
Fa'lina may want to try to convert someone, someday into her Clan. But the true be told she is already the mother of all the clans. With the exception of a few triwinged leaders, she has touch and help raise every living cubi today. I am sure that means something in the world of the triwings.
PBH
Last I heard, a Tri-Wing can't convert anyone his/herself. He/She gave that up at the same time he/she gave up the ability to have kids the old fashioned way. It is the main reason I am hoping Jyrus goes into genetics next. First he would need to patch together a complete readout of Fa`Lina's DNA. This could be the deal breaker, if she has become so magic based that a piece of her DNA is absent from EVERY cell in her body. If it is just a piece missing here in one cell, and a different piece missing in a different copy, than he can still splice it back together. Then he would need to use it to make an artificial spermatozoa, and find a lady willing to actually carry the kid for nine months. That, or acquire a viable egg cell, and use some sort of freaky, scifi-ish, artificial womb. The end result would HOPEFULLY be a little cubi girl (two X chromosomes, remember) with two mothers. Of course, even then, would the kid be of Fa`Lina's clan simply because they are related, or would the girl be technically clanless?
:mowdizzy
Geesh It maybe easier to just built a time-machine or worm-hole and go back to the age before the Cubi-dragon war. Once there, Kidnap/rescue one of Fa'lina's kin just before they death. Pulling them out of the time stream would feel like they die to Falina. And then bring them back here to this time.
I am sure that the Tri-wing status burns away all one's own DNA, which is why the clan leader themselves don't count as a member of their own clans.
PBH
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on November 01, 2010, 05:12:37 PM
Geesh It maybe easier to just built a time-machine or worm-hole and go back to the age before the Cubi-dragon war. Once there, Kidnap/rescue one of Fa'lina's kin just before they death. Pulling them out of the time stream would feel like they die to Falina. And then bring them back here to this time.
I am sure that the Tri-wing status burns away all one's own DNA, which is why the clan leader themselves don't count as a member of their own clans.
PBH
Without DNA, no wound would ever heal...
Okay, enough real-world science. I'll be good... :rolleyes
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
>:O Why do you preform such evil upon us!? I'd wish a sickness on you, but it seems you have servings a plenty of that, so I shall simply punch at your karma in a passive aggressive angst. Rawr.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
That would probably cause a little confusion at the Academy. After all isn't the campus dependent on Fa'lina's existence? :cry
Though I often wonder if Fa'lina is the academy and the students are walking inside her. Be kind of awkward if you were talking to her one minute then suddenly she died and you end up face to face with a man sized appendix.
Still one would hope she made plans ahead of time to continue the academies work if she dies. :mowsad
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Define "soon." Time is relative, after all. :P
Quote from: Madd the Sane on November 01, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Define "soon." Time is relative, after all. :P
Truth...As Cyra said herself, anything under a decade (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1003.php), I believe?
Quote from: D'ymkarra on November 01, 2010, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on November 01, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Define "soon." Time is relative, after all. :P
Truth...As Cyra said herself, anything under a decade (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1003.php), I believe?
That's according to Cyra. Cyra has lived longer than Amber, but not as long as Fa'lina, so giving those figures I'd say probably either 1 year our time or 15 years comic time (give or take).
Quote from: joshofspam on November 01, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
Still one would hope she made plans ahead of time to continue the academies work if she dies. :mowsad
I imagine she has foreseen it. In any case, since so many clans use it there would surely be some kind of successor organisation. You might have several. 'New SAIA', 'The Succubus and Incubus Polytechnic...'
Quote from: Madd the Sane on November 01, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Define "soon." Time is relative, after all. :P
I'd start to worry when she can't foresee things within the academy.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
So long as there is life, there is hope As long as there is Hope than fight to survive....is what my uncle believes
Yet If Hope should die, then Is there Life?
I hope Amber is only toying with us... But If Fa'lina does die, then Hope should survive, if Mabs has any say in it.
PBH
Quote from: Ghostwish on November 01, 2010, 08:27:49 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
>:O Why do you preform such evil upon us!? I'd wish a sickness on you, but it seems you have servings a plenty of that, so I shall simply punch at your karma in a passive aggressive angst. Rawr.
And now we know why Amber is sick all the time. :D
I believe that it has been mentioned that the entire DMFA strip is going to end sometime in the next few years. Amber hasn't said anything about how Fa'Lina will die. She could have a heroic death (like that of Spock at the end of The Wrath of Kahn, and remember he returned in the next film) saving both the dragon and cubi races and creating an era of peace and prosperity. Alternatively, she could slip on a cosmic banana peel.
End? pooh!
NooooooooooOOOOoooo!
Throws self about like possession!
Ah well, I can't wait! I've been writing myself and having some sort of timeline for end date means she's got story down somewhere.
Things have really turned into a plot soup and there are an awesome number of mysteries to be solved or revealed. I can't wait but I must! .... but when it's over .... how long will she have the website up? So I start backing-up everything for the Shrine now? or should I wait until it's all through? ....
Guess permisson would be the next step. Love you Amber!
Quote from: Naldru on November 03, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
I believe that it has been mentioned that the entire DMFA strip is going to end sometime in the next few years. Amber hasn't said anything about how Fa'Lina will die. She could have a heroic death (like that of Spock at the end of The Wrath of Kahn, and remember he returned in the next film) saving both the dragon and cubi races and creating an era of peace of prosperity. Alternatively, she could slip on a cosmic banana peel.
Why would anyone want to save dragon race ? [insert ebil Destania face]
Speculation: Perhaps Fa'Lina was one of 5 people Mab befriended and one of the ones she knows is going to die.
I was just thinking about a Nostrodomas prophecy:
Sometime within the next ten years the comic will either end naturally, or from Amber dying (along with everyone else) from the appocolipse, or we will all be enslaved by the next world power and Amber will be forced to continue the comic.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
See the next time Amber says something cannot be done, like non-soulless hollows, or reviving a clan with no members left in it, you guys will know she means business!
Plus loopholes are really obvious easy plot twists to come up with. "such and such that has never been done before has just been done! OH NOES"
Learning that there is an end planned to DMFA in the relatively near future is actually surprisingly reassuring to me. There is nothing worse than a something good forced to continue going beyond where it should have naturally ended. There is no greater example of this than The Wheel of Time series. :/ The day when I will no longer be able to look forward to DMFA updates will be a sad one, but it will be offset by the end of a very satisfying read. It will probably be a lot like when Ozy and Millie ended a while back, or finishing a particularly good book. In all, I hope it doesn't happen too soon, but it's better than not happening at all.
Quote from: Naldru on November 03, 2010, 03:40:13 PMAlternatively, she could slip on a cosmic banana peel.
Now that it has been said, it must happen !!
:D
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Quote from: Naldru on November 03, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
I believe that it has been mentioned that the entire DMFA strip is going to end sometime in the next few years. Amber hasn't said anything about how Fa'Lina will die. She could have a heroic death (like that of Spock at the end of The Wrath of Kahn, and remember he returned in the next film) saving both the dragon and cubi races and creating an era of peace of prosperity. Alternatively, she could slip on a cosmic banana peel.
When the comic finally does end I hope the Demonology 101 will be finished...And I have faith, Amber does have other stories to write... I hope. or Amber will have to look for a real job. :mwaha (edit: Amber really works hard on her comic, for little pay.)
PBH
Well, if she doesn't, I'm sure she has a bunch of fanfics lying about that could be used for inspiration. :D
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
But, "soon" could be by a measure of a tri-wing's lifetime, instead of a being's.
Quote from: D'ymkarra on November 01, 2010, 10:30:08 PM
Truth...As Cyra said herself, anything under a decade (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1003.php), I believe?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2010, 05:17:40 AMI imagine she has foreseen it.
Or someone else has.
Quotethere would surely be some kind of successor organisation.
Maybe she plans for Pyro to take over administration.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on November 04, 2010, 01:39:37 PMWhen the comic finally does end I hope the Demonology 101 will be finished...And I have faith, Amber does have other stories to write... I hope.
Just because DMFA ends doesn't necessarily mean that she won't write a sequel or spin-off.
If I remember right, the strip doesn't say Taun MADE him a Cubi, it just says he underwent a ritual to become one... it doesn't specify if/how another Cubi is required for the ritual to be successful.
If no existing Cubi are necessary, then theoretically there could be clanless self-made Cubi floating around.
Could be. Probably aren't. I can't imagine the actual ritual being known to anyone BUT the Cubi.
Quote from: joshofspam on November 01, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
After all isn't the campus dependent on Fa'lina's existence? :cry
I think the other Cubi on staff help maintain the barriers that keep it safe from the rest of the world, but I think the academy itself might be a physical location?
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
D:
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
I hope you're not meaning this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_740.php) soon. :<
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
and it'll be the Chia Gnoll that ends her.
Quote from: Cassi-kun on November 14, 2010, 04:47:08 PMI think the other Cubi on staff help maintain the barriers that keep it safe from the rest of the world, but I think the academy itself might be a physical location?
Wasn't SAIA located in a pocket dimension created/controlled by FaLina? I seem to remember something like that.
Quote from: Tiger_T on November 18, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: Cassi-kun on November 14, 2010, 04:47:08 PMI think the other Cubi on staff help maintain the barriers that keep it safe from the rest of the world, but I think the academy itself might be a physical location?
Wasn't SAIA located in a pocket dimension created/controlled by FaLina? I seem to remember something like that.
That's correct.
I really hope Amber's just messing with us (ha. ha. No pun intended. Really). Killing the last of the Hope clan is just depressing. Might make for excellent plot development, but man... Depressing.
Quote from: Whalefreezer on November 15, 2010, 05:14:28 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 01, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Fa'Lina's clan shall never see a revival. And soon Fa'Lina will die herself! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
I hope you're not meaning this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_740.php) soon. :<
I think here that the question Abel was going to ask was something like 'how until you (as in, the person you're tracking) have to be gone from SAIA for you to lose that insight and power (on them)?', and the 'two months' referred to that.
I actually have evidence for this: when Aniz left, with Fa'lina's help, Destania was able to know that Aniz was still alive for 'at least a few months (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_058.php)' after he left. It's then implied that the reason she can't know that indefinitely is that Fa'lina's 'sight' over Aniz fades until it's gone after that amount of time. This lines up perfectly with her answer of "two months."
I'm not sure why you think the 'two months' answer had to do with how much longer she'd be alive, but it is strange that Amber would cut off Abel's question there, so maybe her answer had a different meaning after all (however I am still going with parsimony here and saying it's the above :P).
Quote from: Tiger_T on November 18, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: Cassi-kun on November 14, 2010, 04:47:08 PMI think the other Cubi on staff help maintain the barriers that keep it safe from the rest of the world, but I think the academy itself might be a physical location?
Wasn't SAIA located in a pocket dimension created/controlled by FaLina? I seem to remember something like that.
Ahh... Okay then. In that case yeaaah, there's gonna be some problems in SAIA when Fa'Lina goes [sound effect relevant to her death here].
I imagine that when Fa'lina goes, SAIA dissolves, Auto-teleporting everyone in the middle of some wind-swept prairie...
Which might be a problem if SAIA is more than one story tall. It'll be raining cubi for a short period of time :dface
(That said, wouldn't all the insane people get out then?)
Quote from: lilpuppy23 on November 19, 2010, 05:37:01 PM
I imagine that when Fa'lina goes, SAIA dissolves, Auto-teleporting everyone in the middle of some wind-swept prairie...
Which might be a problem if SAIA is more than one story tall. It'll be raining cubi for a short period of time :dface
I imagine that she'd probably be able to foresee it and take precautions. In any case, 'Cubi should be able to at least parachute with their wings...
God and Goddess People Just let this drop... One little hint from Amber and the thread it goes on and on.
Yes Fa'lina is all our favorite character, Kinda like my Aunty Marie and she had big ......ah
Yes, well Soon is a relative term.... Like the comic is half over...over at JACK. Dave's comic. it has been going as long as this one.
So soon can be long long time.....
PBH
I wonder if Fa'lina will be killed by an assassin working for the dragons or as a martyr bringing peace between the cubi and dragons or protecting Dan or Abel or ......
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on November 19, 2010, 10:24:07 PM
God and Goddess People Just let this drop... One little hint from Amber and the thread it goes on and on.
Yes Fa'lina is all our favorite character, Kinda like my Aunty Marie and she had big ......ah
I see you finaly figured it out. :)
This topic is starting to get less and less sane, and further out to left field, so welcome it to it's new home.
Ah ahh This is a nice place
*sips her tea**
PBH
*brings a cup over to the professor*
Mind if I barge in on you ?
:)
Oh yes Have a brisket?
*offer assored array of cookies*
Fa'lina really is like my Aunty Marie. I love hugs for her. And she is like a great she-wolf to the rest of us, cubs in the family. She has no children of her own, but she was motherly to all her nieces and nephews.
Now, Fa'lina has somehow tap into sources of power from each Clan that goes to the Academy. Each member of academy seems to love and respect her, Fa'lina adores all her students, even when they are doing wrong.(Aniz) I am sure she has a way for the other Founders to keep the school going even if she were no longer there to run things.
PBH
Hmm, i was under the impression that if not for inter-clan politics, she would have inhumed Aniz for how badly he messed up everything.
Quote from: VAE on November 23, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
Hmm, i was under the impression that if not for inter-clan politics, she would have inhumed Aniz for how badly he messed up everything.
And such a spanking that would have been. It hurts more If you can heal him up and smack him again.. Or she could have let Destania do it? Dee did a lovely job mess with Abel. Destania is one of the many things, that he is messing up, but we wouldn't have Dan now, would we?
PBH
Just becuase someone is your son/daughter doesn't mean they cannot do something so monumentally stupid, that you want to beat the living crap out of them.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on November 23, 2010, 12:43:18 PM
Quote from: VAE on November 23, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
Hmm, i was under the impression that if not for inter-clan politics, she would have inhumed Aniz for how badly he messed up everything.
And such a spanking that would have been. It hurts more If you can heal him up and smack him again.. Are she could have let Destania do it? Dee did a lovely job mess with Abel. Destania is one of the many things, that he is messing up, but we wouldn't have Dan now, would we?
PBH
Hmm , but Aniz isn't dan's father ... so unless you mean by that "she wouldn't have ended up in the pub" (a likely hypothesis that she was on the hunt for aniz")
Also, i dunno if it made it across (a discworld reference) inhume is what an assassin's guild :mowninja does... comes from the opposite of exhume... so spanking wouldn't quite do the job.
Wow... Lot's of speculation, and hypothesizing, going on in here. Let's see if I can't make sense of what's been posted.
In the long run, chances of Fa'Lina's clan making a comeback are basically zero.
Death:
For all we know, Amber could be pulling our leg, but I won't say that with utmost certainty. Perhaps Fa'Lina could end up being like Nicky, the Demoness that gained immortality.
And regarding Aniz, Fa'Lina just realizes that he's pretty much in the same boat she is, except that he can still produce offspring. This may also be why she's so polite to Dan, whose clan consists only of his mother and the Clan leader (So far as everyone knows).
It has also been hinted that Mab and Fa'Lina are new/old friends, so who knows how things will really turn out.
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