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Title: 10/07/2010 [AS2 #104] - There Is Hope
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on July 10, 2010, 03:18:33 AM
Mink... is a friend one can count on :)
Awesome update as usual :3
Title: [AS 2 #104] Guardian Squiggly
Post by: Anri on July 10, 2010, 03:19:15 AM
Daww, mink is so loving. ;~;

edit: Crud, I got beaten, can this one get nuked. c.c
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: LigerJet on July 10, 2010, 03:35:56 AM
Mink~<3  I hope we get more Mink after Abel's Story...
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Raskahn on July 10, 2010, 04:12:28 AM
Damnit Amber! All I can say is "Daawww" when I look at the page.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Suwako on July 10, 2010, 05:48:33 AM
Truly adorable.

Hope heals all wounds? Hope gives life? Hope is us reaching out towards the light? Hope is what drives us?
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Thirty Second Artbomb on July 10, 2010, 06:28:14 AM
Awesome Squiggly is Awesome.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: VAE on July 10, 2010, 06:31:31 AM
Awesome, Amber!
Even the abel - allergic me liked this a load!
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: AstreaAran on July 10, 2010, 07:38:01 AM
I've read DMFA for a long time, but never really bothered with the forums before. But... well, I gotta hand it to ya, Amber. This last Abel's Story page was beautiful. I've loved this story in general, as you've done a fantastic job of storytelling with this side comic, and in many ways, I actually feel it even somehow compliments the ordinary humor of DMFA well. It's a fantasy comic, with anthro characters, but very human personality... a very 'real' story. it's been seriously engaging, and I honestly want to thank you for producing such a fine tale for us to enjoy. I'm always eager to see where it goes, and how it tangles in with the comic we already know.

I also wanted to comment on just how beautiful this last comic in particular was, to me. It moved me deeply, on a personal level. I know all too well how it feels to just want to hold someone dear to you tightly, wishing to take away all the pain, yearning to give them something to hope for... A difficult nest of emotions to bear, perhaps, even as it's otherwise a kind and positive reaction. It's very hard to see someone you care about in deep pain, and seemingly without hope in their heart. And there couldn't be anything greater they need, in such a time.

This is the meaning of art, to me. To not just produce an image. But to evoke, in the viewers, deep and meaningful emotional response.

Thank you.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on July 10, 2010, 08:35:39 AM
Quote from: Tytaj on July 10, 2010, 05:48:33 AM
Truly adorable.

Hope heals all wounds? Hope gives life? Hope is us reaching out towards the light? Hope is what drives us?

Aawww Yes, Mink shows that he is cute and useful in pinch, but I wonder if combat-trained Cubi can heal themselves from a wound like, or Is this a a general weakness they all have.?  Concentration maybe required to shapeshift/heal, and who can concentrate while choking to death.

PBH 
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Anker Steadfast on July 10, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
Dawww

Healing squiggly hugs - How disgustingly adorable!

:kittencute

Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on July 10, 2010, 08:35:39 AM
Quote from: Tytaj on July 10, 2010, 05:48:33 AMTruly adorable.

Hope heals all wounds? Hope gives life? Hope is us reaching out towards the light? Hope is what drives us?
Aawww Yes, Mink shows that he is cute and useful in pinch, but I wonder if combat-trained Cubi can heal themselves from a wound like, or Is this a a general weakness they all have.?  Concentration maybe required to shapeshift/heal, and who can concentrate while choking to death.

Perhaps that is part of what differs the strong from the truly powerful.
Maybe a cubi on the verge of attaining tri-wing status could do something like that without thinking any of it.

Fa'Lina for example seems to be able to teleport without reciting any spells first.
It may have something to do with her tri-wing status, but it could also simply mean she's just *that* good!
After all, not all their badass abilities *have* to be connected with their extra pair of wings.
Some may simply be because they have trained in something for a thousand years.

It would be cool if it was that way, it would add another layer of refinement on an already complex and interesting race.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Sebbie on July 10, 2010, 10:06:10 AM
This update is absolutely stunning.  I can't stop looking at it.  I mean, it was predictable that Mink would come help, but I never expected it to be so...beautiful.

Since this page inspired me to make my first post, I figure now's as good a time as any to wonder aloud about Mink and Abel's friendship.  I mean, given Mink's personality, he seems like the kind of person who'd be cheerful and upbeat and friendly with everyone, but it seems as if he's particularly drawn to Abel (especially given the strip where he's first introduced).  Why is that?  Does Abel feel the same way?
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Thirty Second Artbomb on July 10, 2010, 06:28:14 AM
Awesome Squiggly is Awesome.

Darned right.  

Edit: It occurs to me that a halo around Mink's head would not be out of place here.  Cliched, perhaps, but definitely not out of place. 
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on July 10, 2010, 10:37:40 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Thirty Second Artbomb on July 10, 2010, 06:28:14 AM
Awesome Squiggly is Awesome.

Darned right.  

Edit: It occurs to me that a halo around Mink's head would not be out of place here.  Cliched, perhaps, but definitely not out of place.  

I agree, a halo would be awesome :3

Also, it has occurred to me that apparently Jin isn't the only one capable of radiating healing energy from her wings. Could it possibly be a trademark ability of her clan?
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Tapewolf on July 10, 2010, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on July 10, 2010, 10:37:40 AM
Also, it has occurred to me that apparently Jin isn't the only one capable of radiating healing energy from her wings. Could it possibly be a trademark ability of her clan?

Either way, he's been studying healing for probably longer than Abel's been alive.

And yes, this was an adorable comic...
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Psychedelic Mushroom on July 10, 2010, 11:34:44 AM
Gah.. When I saw this comic is stuck home base for me.. Amber I think this is the most moving piece of the comic for me. Just seeing Mink help Abel like that really even just helped my cluttered mind when I read "There is hope".  Amber, reading that really helped me today.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Shachza on July 10, 2010, 11:36:15 AM
I read the caption at the bottom.

I read the title of this thread.

Some may disagree, but I declare Keep Hope Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3N_Lkgftc4) to be Jin's clan song!
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
This comic IS the awesome...I never expected Mink to appear, yet it seems so fitting that he did. I'm guessing Abel will be getting a crash course in compassion, once his jaw stops bleeding...





For those that care: There was an old wives' tale on FurC (passed along by the Rah), that Jin herself resided at Lost Lake; hence the lakes' extraordinary healing abilities....interesting indeed.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: OminousShadow on July 10, 2010, 12:57:57 PM
You know that since we haven't seen Mink in the present of DMFA when at SAIA, and the fact Abel is less social than he is in Abel's Story, I think that something happens to Mink most likely.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: McKathlin on July 10, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:09:11 AM
Edit: It occurs to me that a halo around Mink's head would not be out of place here.  Cliched, perhaps, but definitely not out of place. 

Perhaps, but then, a halo could hardly add to this.  Mink already looks like an angel here. <3
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: SoWhatIfImFurry on July 10, 2010, 01:16:45 PM
As adorable as this is, I can't help but have a very... very bad feeling about this.
We all know that this is to good to be true, every time something that's the least bit positive happens to Abel, something happens to take it away. Cindy, Devin, all of Abels friends, his mom... All of them were good, now all of them are dead.

Nuuuuu... Don't let anything happen to Mink! She's to cute to die! Or have anything relatively bad happen to her!
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Torano on July 10, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
"As Able lay there, bleeding, he could suddenly feel an arm around him, a presence. Mink. In a brief moment of confusion, he looked back, feeling emotions from his friend that he'd never sensed before.  Meanwhile, his friend Mink hugged him, healing him, stunning his mind into silence. From afar, another watched, as Abel placed his arm on Mink's, in a quiet, powerful 'thank you'.


There...is hope."

---

(No, I don't know where that came from, but it seemed like it fit.)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: aserath on July 10, 2010, 02:11:31 PM
That made me shed a tear. I love Mink. And Amber you are awesome.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 10, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
Yay, Squiggly!
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: OminousShadow on July 10, 2010, 12:57:57 PM
You know that since we haven't seen Mink in the present of DMFA when at SAIA, and the fact Abel is less social than he is in Abel's Story, I think that something happens to Mink most likely.

The part that makes this statement the most true, also makes it the most saddening...I loathe to think that anything has actually 'happened' to Mink; I would personally love to see him make a surprise appearance in canon DMFA  :)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Jasonrevall on July 10, 2010, 02:46:02 PM
Mink appears to be an exceptional friend. Those three words are very powerful in this strip.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Merlin on July 10, 2010, 04:00:39 PM
D'aww Mink! Totally worth waiting for the update when it's that adorable :3
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 05:09:31 PM
Very moving image.  Mink looks more  angelic than any character I've seen in Amber's work, including any actual angels.

But on to the wild theorizing about potential Mink disaster scenarios -

1.) That isn't actually Mink.  It's Destania playing a cruel trick before leaving.

2.) That isn't actually Mink.  It's Aaryanna making a desperate attempt to grope Abel without him knowing it's her.

3.) That isn't actually Mink.  It's Aniz.  God knows what he's doing.

4.) It is Mink.  Abel lets his guard down and becomes attached to him.  Inspired, Mink runs for President on a message of Hope.  However, his incompetence becomes obvious after he destroys the economy, the health care system, and much of the offshore marine environment.  Abel never speaks to him again.  He does, however, win the Nobel Peace prize, spending the money on Fruit Rollups.

(http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~otown/MinkHopeImage.jpg)

Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Attic Rat on July 10, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Extraordinary plot manipulation, Amber!
:boogie
You took Abel to the bottom of a pit of despair, farther down than anyone could imagine, and then in one bright flash of compassion,  you hand us angelically-glowing healing and hope. Speaking of hope, I can only hope you never use your powers for evil...
:erk
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: entropicage on July 10, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
I audibly Aww'd in public.  :S
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Damaris on July 10, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 05:09:31 PM
4.) It is Mink.  Abel lets his guard down and becomes attached to him.  Inspired, Mink runs for President on a message of Hope.  However, his incompetence becomes obvious after he destroys the economy, the health care system, and much of the offshore marine environment.  Abel never speaks to him again.  He does, however, win the Nobel Peace prize, spending the money on Fruit Rollups.

(http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~otown/MinkHopeImage.jpg)

Rafe, this isn't a political forum - whether or not this is your opinion on the current administration, this and a discussion about this does not belong here.  Don't bring stuff like this up again.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Anker Steadfast on July 10, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
On a sidenote :

If Mink radiates hope, does that mean that Fa'Lina is going to feed on him (http://naut6g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pZEY8BuSi6RdNxtMeBwmQDmlyHBuFWcrHVyU-WxmAhuho4QRLXSTFM6KoS7U5ms30x82cvYdxnemFl-s8Kw4Nxwr64uodcbcJ/om%20nom%20nom%20nom.jpg)?  :D
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Brownie on July 10, 2010, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tytaj on July 10, 2010, 05:48:33 AM
Truly adorable.

Hope heals all wounds? Hope gives life? Hope is us reaching out towards the light? Hope is what drives us?
Hope makes you and your wings go all shiny white?

That was cute. Not as cute as some other panels, but cute.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on July 10, 2010, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Attic Rat on July 10, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Extraordinary plot manipulation, Amber!
:boogie
You took Abel to the bottom of a pit of despair, farther down than anyone could imagine, and then in one bright flash of compassion,  you hand us angelically-glowing healing and hope. Speaking of hope, I can only hope you never use your powers for evil...
:erk


Amber is a force of Nature, she uses her powers for the advancement of the cute...
Mab's Heaven (http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=813)

PBH
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Damaris on July 10, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
...Don't bring stuff like this up again.
Dammit.  Now Damaris hates me.  
Those who haven't met her with her cheery disposition can't realize how hard this is to do.  
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Damaris on July 10, 2010, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 09:13:28 PM
Dammit.  Now Damaris hates me.  
Those who haven't met her with her cheery disposition can't realize how hard this is to do.  

1) No I don't. You're fine :)
2) It's all a front. ;)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 09:35:13 PM
I feel much better now. 
I further hope  my comment about Fruit Rollups didn't offend anyone.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Wanderer on July 10, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
Blast it, Amber, stop trying to make me like this strange squiggly creature of undefined gender! You keep sneaking all this niceness in there and making me have to despite what I want.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
For those that care: There was an old wives' tale on FurC (passed along by the Rah), that Jin herself resided at Lost Lake; hence the lakes' extraordinary healing abilities....interesting indeed.

Even better, maybe Mink lives there.   :)

Quote from: Shachza on July 10, 2010, 11:36:15 AM
Some may disagree, but I declare Keep Hope Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3N_Lkgftc4) to be Jin's clan song!

Seems pretty good.  Also, congratulations, you've gotten me hooked on the artist.  This can only end in downloading a full discography. 

Quote from: McKathlin on July 10, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:09:11 AM
Edit: It occurs to me that a halo around Mink's head would not be out of place here.  Cliched, perhaps, but definitely not out of place. 
Perhaps, but then, a halo could hardly add to this.  Mink already looks like an angel here. <3

Yeah, quite true.  What amuses me most about that imagery is that Mink does not have feather wings.  Mink has batwings, even if they are white, and is a squid-squiggley, and somehow it does not detract from the awesome.  That is hard to pull off.  Props to Amber. 

Quote from: SoWhatIfImFurry on July 10, 2010, 01:16:45 PM
As adorable as this is, I can't help but have a very... very bad feeling about this.
We all know that this is to good to be true, every time something that's the least bit positive happens to Abel, something happens to take it away. Cindy, Devin, all of Abels friends, his mom... All of them were good, now all of them are dead.

Shh!  Mentioning it might make it happen! 
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: The Lurking Dragon on July 11, 2010, 12:20:35 AM
Amber, you may feel meh, but it appears your fans may disagree. Sometimes the simplest things are the most powerful. This, I think personally, is one of those times.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: jeffh4 on July 11, 2010, 12:45:36 AM
Quote from: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 09:13:28 PM
Dammit.  Now Damaris hates me.  
Those who haven't met her with her cheery disposition can't realize how hard this is to do.  
Eh. I took your option four as facetious humor.  I know from experience how tought that is to get across on a forum post.  I took no offense.

Quote from: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
For those that care: There was an old wives' tale on FurC (passed along by the Rah), that Jin herself resided at Lost Lake; hence the lakes' extraordinary healing abilities....interesting indeed.
Does someone (ahem, Tapewolf?) remember where this was mentioned? I didn't see it in the "magazine interviews Dan/Alexi about Lost Lake arc, nor is the "Lost Lake" location have its own page on the Demonology 101 page.

Quote from: SoWhatIfImFurry on July 10, 2010, 01:16:45 PM
Nuuuuu... Don't let anything happen to Mink! She's to cute to die! Or have anything relatively bad happen to her!
As long as Mink stays at SAIA Fa'Lina won't let any of the students die in her little pocket universe.

Quote from: McKathlin on July 10, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
Perhaps, but then, a halo could hardly add to this.  Mink already looks like an angel here. <3
Since there are angels in the Furrae universe, that would cause too much confusion.  Mink is just awesome the way she is!

Poor Abel.   Helpless to protest this invasion of his "personal space!"   :)

Keep in mind that this entire scene occurred under Fa'Lina's complicity, if not approval.

If we didn't know it before, here's what Abel was talking about when he said "The vast majority of Cubi are jerks. The NICE ONES exist...but are a minority" (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_658.php)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: joshofspam on July 11, 2010, 01:06:10 AM
Mink truly is the clan of Awesome! :boogie

Wonder if they were both banned from the library? Friends that stick together, tend to get in trouble together.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: null0010 on July 11, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Mmkay, at this point if something bad happens to Mink, I will just be dead inside.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 11, 2010, 04:38:25 AM
Quote from: Damaris on July 10, 2010, 09:30:44 PM
2) It's all a front. ;)

Mmm, front.

... I mean, uh, nothing to see here, move along.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on July 11, 2010, 04:41:19 AM
I hope Mink is a guy because if Mink is a girl I have a bad feeling that something would happen to her(?) that pushes Abel even farther... Maybe even it's what makes Abel asexual...
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Tapewolf on July 11, 2010, 05:39:58 AM
Quote from: null0010 on July 11, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Mmkay, at this point if something bad happens to Mink, I will just be dead inside.

It's entirely possible that Mink has simply completed his course to Jin's satisfaction and left the academy.  'Course it's also possible that he and Abel have simply drifted apart.  It's extremely unlikely that anything fatal happens to him while he's actually on campus.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on July 11, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 11, 2010, 05:39:58 AM
Quote from: null0010 on July 11, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Mmkay, at this point if something bad happens to Mink, I will just be dead inside.

It's entirely possible that Mink has simply completed his course to Jin's satisfaction and left the academy.  'Course it's also possible that he and Abel have simply drifted apart.  It's extremely unlikely that anything fatal happens to him while he's actually on campus.

Indeed, SAIA is the safest place on earth for all Cubi. If Mink is still there, then his well-being is pretty much guaranteed. For all we know, Mink could be taking classes on advanced healing.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: lilpuppy23 on July 11, 2010, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: Arcblade on July 10, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
For those that care: There was an old wives' tale on FurC (passed along by the Rah), that Jin herself resided at Lost Lake; hence the lakes' extraordinary healing abilities....interesting indeed.

Even better, maybe Mink lives there.   :)


I support this theory!  :U
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: D'ymkarra on July 11, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: D'ymkarra on July 10, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
For those that care: There was an old wives' tale on FurC (passed along by the Rah), that Jin herself resided at Lost Lake; hence the lakes' extraordinary healing abilities....interesting indeed.
Does someone (ahem, Tapewolf?) remember where this was mentioned? I didn't see it in the "magazine interviews Dan/Alexi about Lost Lake arc, nor is the "Lost Lake" location have its own page on the Demonology 101 page.[/quote]


This was referred to on the Furc forums some time ago; people started asking about it during the 'Cubi clan leaders' arc, and it was speculated on by the current Rah (so tis neither fact, nor canon), but seeing this scene reminded me of it.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on July 11, 2010, 02:25:33 PM
This is quite an emotional rollercoaster. From despair, to happy and supporting in just a single comic.

I think this is why I like Abel's story so much.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Joe3210 on July 11, 2010, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: Rafe on July 10, 2010, 09:35:13 PM
I feel much better now. 
I further hope  my comment about Fruit Rollups didn't offend anyone.
I loved your option 4.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Rithm Alfortele on July 11, 2010, 08:15:01 PM
Here's my guess at what happens.

Abel grows attached to Mink, maybe even entering a relationship with him/her/hir.

Many many years later, Dan's father (whose name I forgot :<) accidentally kills Mink, thinking he's attacking someone he's healing.  Dan's father realizes what he's done and swears never to kill another 'cubus again.  Later, enter Destania, Dan's father holds to his oath, Dan ends up being conceived.

Abel is sore at Dan's father, but chooses to hold no specific ill will towards Dan himself.  Since, after all, he himself is the son of a wicked man.  However, Ink pushing Abel's button about Dan's father makes him go all rage.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Caswin on July 11, 2010, 08:19:01 PM
Well, that ruled.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Mao on July 11, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
As nice as all this speculation is, try to keep the discussion on the comic at hand (or at least sort of related to it), or start a new thread that's more about theories.  Thanks. :3
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Rafe on July 11, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
Gee, considering that we know what has been revealed in the comic so far, and there's nothing to argue about since we have archives, then what do we discuss?  Things we can only theorize about.

Not theorizing about the comic kind of limits the discussion to "hey... this thing with Abel and Mink happened", and "yeah... it sure did,  I saw it ... in the comic".  That would result in an extremely dull forum.  
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Omegan on July 11, 2010, 10:02:39 PM
Mink is the author of the Cubi Clan leaders descriptions. If that is canon and Mink knows that Cyra Clan has two members (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Leader10.php) (leaders not counting (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Leader12.php)), then Mink has to be alive and at SAIA as of strip #605 (or so).

So, time to stop all the hand wringing.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Mao on July 11, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: Rafe on July 11, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
Gee, considering that we know what has been revealed in the comic so far, and there's nothing to argue about since we have archives, then what do we discuss?  Things we can only theorize about.

Not theorizing about the comic kind of limits the discussion to "hey... this thing with Abel and Mink happened", and "yeah... it sure did,  I saw it ... in the comic".  That would result in an extremely dull forum. 

If a theory comes up in a thread about a particular comic, and has nothing to do with the facts presented *in* the comic itself, then I consider it unrelated to the comic in the title.  You're certainly welcome to base the theories off of things revealed in this comic (and things prior to it that are related), but when it comes into discussing things past (but not related) or without any basis in the comic in the title then I have a problem with it as it's off topic.  While I appreciate that you're trying to encourage open discussion in the forum, it's been known to get so far afield that folks don't want to post as the topic is no longer about the comic in the thread title.  People are starting to stray far from the comic listed so I made the comment.

If you wish to discuss this further with me, you're free to PM me on the matter.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: OminousShadow on July 11, 2010, 10:38:03 PM
Quote from: Omegan on July 11, 2010, 10:02:39 PM
Mink is the author of the Cubi Clan leaders descriptions. If that is canon and Mink knows that Cyra Clan has two members (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Leader10.php) (leaders not counting (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Leader12.php)), then Mink has to be alive and at SAIA as of strip #605 (or so).

So, time to stop all the hand wringing.

That or Amber decided to give us all the most up to date info on the clans and used Mink doing a report as the best way to do it and didn't think about the fact of something having happened to Mink or not.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Mao on July 11, 2010, 10:41:53 PM
I think, when asked about it, Amber said it was done pretty much how OS there just described it.  However, the fun thing I've found about her is that if she finds a good way to tie it in and likes how it fits, she will.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Traveller on July 12, 2010, 03:53:48 AM
Nobody hurt Mink.  Nobody hurt Mink EVER.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Turnsky on July 12, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
Quote from: fanboys
*yet another Edward = Aniz discussion*

so how's that course in beating dead horses working out for you fellas?  >:3
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: VAE on July 12, 2010, 07:48:00 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 12, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
Quote from: Rafe on July 11, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
*yet another Edward = Aniz discussion*

so how's that course in beating dead horses working out for you?  >:3

Well, beating a flab of dead meat with a hammer is an integral part in making schnitzels!
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Nerikull on July 12, 2010, 07:52:52 AM
This update made me de-lurk!

D'aaaaawwwwwww!


Just when you think that Mink cannot get any more cute...


Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Anker Steadfast on July 12, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 12, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
Quote from: fanboys*yet another Edward = Aniz discussion*
so how's that course in beating dead horses working out for you fellas?  >:3

Pretty well actually - I hardly ever miss it anymore. :)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Naldru on July 12, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
That's because it's the thread that never ends.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Arcblade on July 12, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: Traveller on July 12, 2010, 03:53:48 AM
Nobody hurt Mink.  Nobody hurt Mink EVER.

Seconded.  Wonder what Jin's like in person... 
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Tangent on July 12, 2010, 11:11:40 PM
Awww! *sniffle* *happy place*

Darn. Now I wish Amber could have been at ConnectiCon. Though considering I was shouting "No free hugs!" at all of the young geeks with "free hug" signs at the convention, I'd probably not glomp her. ^^;;
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Attic Rat on July 13, 2010, 02:25:23 AM
Just a thought here. Has anyone noticed that Abel's eyes now look like they did when Fa'lina briefly removed his emotions?

That'd be really clever of Mink. Stop a panic attack by canceling the victim's emotions. Abel's physical wound is not serious, so once he's stopped mentally freaking out it'll be easier to fix his bleeding jaw. the words "There is hope" would help there, too.

Hope is a promise, and promises can be fulfilled or not. Mink appears to have begun fulfilling his promise before he even gave it. An emotionless Abel would take note of that.

Or maybe I'm over-thinking this. yeah... Probably.  Time for a cookie!  :mowcookie
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Inumo on July 13, 2010, 02:38:08 AM
I think you might be (over-thinking, that is). Comparing emotionless-ness (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_030.php) to current (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_105.php), they don't seem to be all that similar. The eyes aren't as apathetic, and the colored portion isn't as flat or as big. I could be missing something though.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Tangent on July 13, 2010, 06:31:44 AM
Cookie! *glee* *happy place* *noms*
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: That_wolf on July 13, 2010, 08:44:57 AM
So... when was Mink confirmed to be a guy? ...Or have a gender?
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Drayco84 on July 13, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
Wow... Three pages and not one word about getting this in a wallpaper... Oh well, easily fixed.

I, hereby humbly and respectfully request that the last scene be made into a wallpaper.
Seriously, this scene is making even me start to tear up. (And I've only ever cried openly wept on three games... Rhapsody, Disgaea, and Metal Gear Solid 3.)
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Attic Rat on July 13, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: Inumo on July 13, 2010, 02:38:08 AM
I think you might be (over-thinking, that is). Comparing emotionless-ness (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_030.php) to current (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_105.php), they don't seem to be all that similar. The eyes aren't as apathetic, and the colored portion isn't as flat or as big. I could be missing something though.

Yeah, not important... But I was thinking of the comic just before that one, the first three panels of this:
emotionless-ness (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_029.php)
There are differences, but the removal of the lines around his irises is the same.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Inumo on July 13, 2010, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on July 13, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
Wow... Three pages and not one word about getting this in a wallpaper... Oh well, easily fixed.

I, hereby humbly and respectfully request that the last scene be made into a wallpaper.
Seriously, this scene is making even me start to tear up. (And I've only ever cried openly wept on three games... Rhapsody, Disgaea, and Metal Gear Solid 3.)

After a few minutes of Photoshop shenanigans...

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z241/Inumo/abelminkThereIsHope.jpg)

Is this close enough to what you were looking for? It's currently at 1024x768 resolution. If you want the .bmp to use instead of the .jpg, let me know and I'll try to figure out a way to get it to you.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Drayco84 on July 13, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
Nah, jpg will work fine and the resolution is perfect.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Ryy Lazurus on July 13, 2010, 04:14:09 PM
It was trully a beautul moment. I have to agree with Tapewolf that it seems more possable that Mink just left the SAIA. I imagin he'll be following his mothers footsteps. Or maybe working in a childrens Hospitol perhaps... (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_524.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_524.php))
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Attic Rat on July 14, 2010, 07:23:52 PM
I hadn't caught this before: In the insert image of the last frame, are Abel's claws extended and red?
And--holes--in Mink's arm?
That would add an off-putting note to an otherwise purely happy image.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: lilpuppy23 on July 14, 2010, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: Attic Rat on July 14, 2010, 07:23:52 PM
I hadn't caught this before: In the insert image of the last frame, are Abel's claws extended and red?
And--holes--in Mink's arm?
That would add an off-putting note to an otherwise purely happy image.


No, more likely its just blood streaking.
Title: Re: 10/07/2010 [AS2#104] - There Is Hope
Post by: Arcblade on July 15, 2010, 08:14:59 AM
Quote from: Attic Rat on July 13, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
Yeah, not important... But I was thinking of the comic just before that one, the first three panels of this:
emotionless-ness (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_029.php)
There are differences, but the removal of the lines around his irises is the same.

I'm willing to bet it's just an effect of having magic used directly on you.  That's how it feels to me, and also, if Abel had no emotions, I doubt he'd have returned Mink's hug. 

Quote from: That_wolf on July 13, 2010, 08:44:57 AM
So... when was Mink confirmed to be a guy? ...Or have a gender?
I don't think it was confirmed.  It's just convenient to choose one or the other.