Gee, I can't imagine why Abel doesn't like Destania nowadays, if her reaction is to HIT one of her students. And honestly, that sick grin does NOTHING for her case. Seriously... Destania AND Aaryanna have a mutual problem of making good points and going about it all wrong. Sheesh.
Totally not the response I was expecting....
You know, for being her son, Dan does not act anything like her.
Of course, it could be one of them repressed secondary trait thinggies.
*That* could get strange.
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 02:27:45 AM
And honestly, that sick grin does NOTHING for her case.
I couldn't agree more. Of COURSE she gives a damn if she's enjoying striking him to the floor!
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2010, 02:43:03 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 02:27:45 AM
And honestly, that sick grin does NOTHING for her case.
I couldn't agree more. Of COURSE she gives a damn if she's enjoying striking him to the floor!
Or maybe she just enjoys striking him to the floor. She's not exactly the kindest person to begin with, I doubt she needs much in the way of provocation.
Not expected, but not surprising. I mean, this is Destania we're talking about here. The one who was described as pure evil? Who wanted to use babies in her torture lessons? I think if she's up for doing that, she's not adverse to hitting one of her students now and then.
if she didn't give a damn then why did she initiate the conversation? Or try to influence Abel in the first place?
Also I just realized with the lighter face markings, green eyes, blue skin and cat traits that Destania KIND of looks like a Na'Vi. I can't be the first one to notice this right?
well, the boy had it coming, methinks.
Everyone just wants to pick on abel. He's the quiet nerdy one that all the bully's radar locks onto for beating on.
You know you're having a bad day if your TEACHERS are beating you up.
Quote from: Castle Pokemetroid on May 03, 2010, 03:06:53 AM
You know you're having a bad day if your TEACHERS are beating you up.
There's some quote that escapes me at the moment. Something along the lines of "Man, when I was in school, I was so unpopular even the TEACHERS took my lunch money."
EDIT: Found it. ^.^
"The school I attended was so tough that even my teachers stole my lunch money."
Sucker-whipped! :mwaha
Still cannot take my eyes from Destania's upshot. :bunny
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 03:12:27 AM
Sucker-whipped! :mwaha
Still cannot take my eyes from Destania's upshot. :bunny
I am Unsilenced, and I approve this post. :3
I wonder if Destania is venting some anger of Abel's dad at him? :erk
What a bitch.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 03:12:27 AM
Sucker-whipped! :mwaha
Still cannot take my eyes from Destania's upshot. :bunny
Daaang, what's the forum rating again?
Well, she just started her lesson early. It was her pleasure to give him pain. Hmmm, I wonder what the ratio is?
Anyway, here we have the explanation for Abel's sucker-punches.
... and "Thank you miss, may I have another?" :U
Quote from: Demont on May 03, 2010, 03:24:38 AM
I wonder if Destania is venting some anger of Abel's dad at him? :erk
The sins of our fathers...
It occurred to me too that if she couldn't attack his father with him, she might attack his father
through him.
Quote from: Howl on May 03, 2010, 03:35:15 AM
What a bitch.
This made me laugh intensely.
There's something to be said for bluntness.
This is why you don't taunt the Destania.
Quote from: Unsilenced on May 03, 2010, 03:17:19 AM
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 03:12:27 AM
Sucker-whipped! :mwaha
Still cannot take my eyes from Destania's upshot. :bunny
I am Unsilenced, and I approve this post. :3
You are not the only one..... MROWR!!! >:3
(Btw, Dan I do
not apologize for having the hots for your mom...... :3)
Although, I will have to say I kind of felt that this was coming; she did have a crop on her, so what makes you think she wouldn't have used it....... :P
I will say though I think a fight between the two is in the works; which will makes Abel realize that he seriously needs to learn to defend himself, when Destania totally pwns his rear........:sweatdrop Ouch, for Abel's pride......
Maybe this is the turning point where Abel finds out that he needs SOME sort of self defense training.
Quote from: Castle Pokemetroid on May 03, 2010, 04:31:49 AM
Maybe this is the turning point where Abel finds out that he needs SOME sort of self defense training.
Or turns all goth.
This is still fa-teen right?
I think my reply would have been similar. Just because you're having a shitty day doesn't mean you should start acting like an asshole to anyone around you (not to mention a far more powerful and fairly twisted individual like Destania).
It seems to me this is just part of the process of turning Abel into a instrument of destruction against his father. He's no good for then when permanently mopey. As one cyborg noted "Anger is more useful than despair". Current Abel, although not exactly battle ready would stand a better chance than he did when he first arrived. Not doubt the process would have continued if Blue had not left SAIA.
Love shun, and she will forever scorn..... everyone.
Remember who Destania is talk about here, Anz. Abel is the one NOT helping her or not going after his father, and not helping to get at the enemy is aiding the enemy.
She gives a damn, but not about Abel.
PBH
You know, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this is how Destania responded to most everything that day.
"Hi Destania! Want a donut I got some extras--"
KRACKAWHIP
"OWgeezus! What the heck was that for?"
"...just because."
"..."
"I mean, I have the outfit on, and the whip. What else are you gonna do looking like this?"
"...yah I guess you're right."
"So donut?"
"Sure thing!"
"...do I look like the type that gives a damn?"
Well.....now that you ment'ch...
Abel, the general rule is that you don't taunt the Dominatrix.
This reminds me of my warrior days and rolling a 1 on diplomacy :B.
"Do I look like the type who gives a damn?"
"Now, lick the boot, lick it!"
Sexy.
...I mean, how dare she. :shifty
Nah, Keats, you were right the first time, that's just hot.
So *this* is why Amber was ranting about the fourth panel being dedicated to me during the webcast. XD
Mrowr.
*saves it*
I'm... wow. Just wow - :erk
All I can say is "HOLY ****!"
Violence, yay! :U
Huge, unsightly thighs; not yay! :U
Quote from: Meany on May 03, 2010, 08:28:17 AM
Huge, unsightly thighs; not yay! :U
What? Her thighs are far from huge, they don't even touch. This is called perspective!
Otherwise you would need to ask why does she have legs bigger than thighs.
As far as to say, i am not a fan of dominatrix outfits, but YAY for Dee! Abel pretty much deserved && needed this for quite a long time, and let's face it, this is nothing compared to Fa'lina punch.
EDIT: fixed unsightly quotes
Ok that was unnecesary Dee, hiting poor Abel like that, shame on you.
*hands Abel a cookie*
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 07:53:24 AM
So *this* is why Amber was ranting about the fourth panel being dedicated to me during the webcast. XD
Mrowr.
*saves it*
Murph... how could You more turn on by that last panel then scared witless? Me, I running to my safe closet with my plasma pistol.. get me when she gone.
PBH
Yeah, not too surprising that we need to spend some time establishing Destania's personality at this point in time.
Interesting school, when teachers can assault the students. Or maybe this passes as coporal punishment.
Quote from: Nerikull on May 03, 2010, 07:17:17 AM
Abel, the general rule is that you don't taunt the Dominatrix.
I propose a new word: Destaniatrix.
Quote from: Arcblade on May 03, 2010, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Nerikull on May 03, 2010, 07:17:17 AM
Abel, the general rule is that you don't taunt the Dominatrix.
I propose a new word: Destaniatrix.
Sounds kind of like the name of a possible deity from DnD. Hmmm... Deity of what, however? Never mind.
Also, that whip has got to sting.
It's not a whip!
;>.>
It's a riding crop. Riding crops are much better. :>
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
It's not a whip!
;>.>
It's a riding crop. Riding crops are much better. :>
Still causes agonising pain when hit with one, no matter what it's called. And with that, the English language shall go falling out of a tenth story window.
Well, given that the Cyra clan's emotional affinity is pain.. it's like having a meals on wheels for her.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
Well, given that the Cyra clan's emotional affinity is pain.. it's like having a meals on wheels for her.
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
Let that be a reminder to Abel that even though she wants to use use him, that she has no particular care for him.
He's a tool to her and tools are to be used until they brake or are no further use and if it fails to do as intended you throw it against the wall and say things that would make a sailor blush in shame.
Her honesty at least tells Abel to be careful around her.
She obviously takes her revenge very seriously and she won't have some young upstart making light of it. Especially the son of the person who she wants to destroy.
Maybe Abel has more experience of burned bridges and not only by first hand experience but second hand from people like Destania.
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
Ow my brain :<
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
That pun made my brain shut down. Happy now?
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
... I lol'd. You, my friend, are awesome.
Quote from: Nerikull on May 03, 2010, 07:17:17 AM
"...do I look like the type that gives a damn?"
Well.....now that you ment'ch...
Abel, the general rule is that you don't taunt the Dominatrix.
Well now...
<.<
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
Well, given that the Cyra clan's emotional affinity is pain.. it's like having a meals on wheels for her.
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
You do that.
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
Well, given that the Cyra clan's emotional affinity is pain.. it's like having a meals on wheels for her.
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
Very clever AND groan-inducing. Perfect!
Maybe it's just me, but... yeah, Destania isn't that hot to me. Maybe it's because she just physically assaulted a student outside of a particular classroom environment (like combat or her lecture or even detention) where it might be justified, maybe it's because the outfit just doesn't work for me, or maybe it's simply because I don't like her. But, yeah. Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it. So, yeah, Abel may be moping and he may need a wake up call, and I will freely admit that, but Destania is just rubbing me the wrong way here. I just cannot see her as hot, or hell, even justified here.
EDIT: Also, yes, Destania, you clearly DO give a damn, otherwise you'd just ignore the annoying mopey feline. But nope, you care.
...Is it bad that I find myself blaming Dee as being part of the reason Abel is so f'ed up now? I don't want to be accused of having a Dan mentality, after all. (Not that I think he's a homophobe. I think he's just overcoming lots of prejudice against Cubi.)
Also, I just made a mental comparison of couples: Edward and Destania to Vegeta and Bulma in DBZ. The most unlikely couple ever, yet one manages to overcome their normally savage, mean, and sociopathic nature for the sake of another person. Enough to raise perfectly normal children and be a loving spouse.
...I think this shows just how strong Edward is as a character, in a weird way. Same argument my roommate used on me for Vegeta and Bulma.
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with
your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
I'm saying she enjoyed it because she was smiling as she was hitting him.
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
I'm saying she enjoyed it because she was smiling as she was hitting him.
So your saying she enjoyed hitting him but didn't enjoy having to remind him that all she sees in him is being a useful tool to kill his father, right?
Quote from: joshofspam on May 03, 2010, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
I'm saying she enjoyed it because she was smiling as she was hitting him.
So your saying she enjoyed hitting him but didn't enjoy having to remind him that all she sees in him is being a useful tool to kill his father, right?
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I think she enjoyed hitting him. If she was genuinely trying to help him, she'd probably not have been smiling while she hit him with a riding crop. Maybe Destania's trying to help him, but much like Aaryanna she's going about it wrong. For that matter, has she even said to his face that she only really sees him as a tool to getting at his dad? Because I think she's smarter than that: saying that to him would just drive him away from her.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
I agree with most of this. SAIA and 'Cubi culture is
not the culture of Western society. Or even any human society. However, Dest took
thorough pleasure in smacking Abel.
Hell, I'd take pleasure in smacking him too.
*Charline grins evily* Oooo... it REALLY looks like Destania and I would get along well! She could torture the babies, I could eat them afterward. We could take turns beating Charles into a pulp, then repair him to torment him all over again! It's a match made in hell! >:3
*Charles does not think well of such an unholy alliance, but dares not to speak.* :<
Quote from: Pagan on May 03, 2010, 02:43:38 PM
I agree with most of this. SAIA and 'Cubi culture is not the culture of Western society. Or even any human society. However, Dest took thorough pleasure in smacking Abel.
Hell, I'd take pleasure in smacking him too.
Not so sure - it is after all , dog-eat-dog capitalism ...
Besides corporal punishment is still used in many places (not that there is anything wrong with either)
She either hide her feelings very good, or just not having them, but I don't see how she takes pleasure in other's pain. She's feeding off pain, yes, but aren't most nutritient stuff usually not taste great? For all we know she really could threat pain as "vegetables".
Last strip she walked in wearing something you'd associate with paraphilia.
Does she behave like one? No. There are no lustful smile, swindling hips, mannerism. She doesn't rubbing hands in anticipation of torturing, nor she accentuate her superiority with every glare. She's not Ice Dominatrix, not Hot Seductress, but casual, room-temperature Matron. She's not doing it for pleasure, she living it.
Amber really outdone herself here. :mowhappy :mowhappy :mowhappy
Quote from: Black_angel on May 03, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
...Is it bad that I find myself blaming Dee as being part of the reason Abel is so f'ed up now? I don't want to be accused of having a Dan mentality, after all. (Not that I think he's a homophobe. I think he's just overcoming lots of prejudice against Cubi.)
Also, I just made a mental comparison of couples: Edward and Destania to Vegeta and Bulma in DBZ. The most unlikely couple ever, yet one manages to overcome their normally savage, mean, and sociopathic nature for the sake of another person. Enough to raise perfectly normal children and be a loving spouse.
...I think this shows just how strong Edward is as a character, in a weird way. Same argument my roommate used on me for Vegeta and Bulma.
His entire childhood was a lie, his father abused him, he went years without seeing his mother then arrived just in time to watch her die, just about every authority figure he has ever known has been cruel to him and apparently the only reason he is alive is because his lying abusive father has an agenda.
I think he might have more issues than being whipped by the mother of a future acquaintance.
EDIT: Oh, and let's not forget that he has recently been accused of being responsible (at least through inaction) for his mother's death, and has been told that he must not really have loved her.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 02:52:02 PMLast strip she walked in wearing something you'd associate with paraphilia.
Does she behave like one? No. There are no lustful smile, swindling hips, mannerism. She doesn't rubbing hands in anticipation of torturing, nor she accentuate her superiority with every glare. She's not Ice Dominatrix, not Hot Seductress, but casual, room-temperature Matron. She's not doing it for pleasure, she living it.
Amber really outdone herself here. :mowhappy :mowhappy :mowhappy
I would just like to add that that cold detachment makes Destania's desire to use children and infants in her torture classes a lot creepier. Thanks.
Quote from: Unsilenced on May 03, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on May 03, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
...Is it bad that I find myself blaming Dee as being part of the reason Abel is so f'ed up now? I don't want to be accused of having a Dan mentality, after all. (Not that I think he's a homophobe. I think he's just overcoming lots of prejudice against Cubi.)
Also, I just made a mental comparison of couples: Edward and Destania to Vegeta and Bulma in DBZ. The most unlikely couple ever, yet one manages to overcome their normally savage, mean, and sociopathic nature for the sake of another person. Enough to raise perfectly normal children and be a loving spouse.
...I think this shows just how strong Edward is as a character, in a weird way. Same argument my roommate used on me for Vegeta and Bulma.
His entire childhood was a lie, his father abused him, he went years without seeing his mother then arrived just in time to watch her die, just about every authority figure he has ever known has been cruel to him and apparently the only reason he is alive is because his lying abusive father has an agenda.
I think he might have more issues than being whipped by the mother of a future acquaintance.
All very good points! Though this certainly would partially explain why Abel doesn't like her: to him, this basically might be kicking him while he's down. Repeatedly. In the spleen.
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on May 03, 2010, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I don't.
There is no pleasure on her face in the last panel, because she isn't doing it for pleasure.
No hatred or resentment either. She's calm. She just slapped him for insolence, not taking it personally. Don't make the semblance with your college life fool you - Cubi are not living in western democracy. They are thousand-year old tribal despotic hellspawns, who live in absolute authority of clan leaders, with pecking order and family feuds. I mean there is nothing unusual in physical assault, in particular, to make point about how youngsters should NOT talking to elders.
I'm saying she enjoyed it because she was smiling as she was hitting him.
So your saying she enjoyed hitting him but didn't enjoy having to remind him that all she sees in him is being a useful tool to kill his father, right?
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I think she enjoyed hitting him. If she was genuinely trying to help him, she'd probably not have been smiling while she hit him with a riding crop. Maybe Destania's trying to help him, but much like Aaryanna she's going about it wrong. For that matter, has she even said to his face that she only really sees him as a tool to getting at his dad? Because I think she's smarter than that: saying that to him would just drive him away from her.
In any case I would guess taking anything for granted involving Destania would be a mistake.
Her first meeting of Abel with "her work with me or stay out of my way" speech didn't make me feel that they would have a friendly relationship even if Abel took her up on her offer.
I guess she's showing her point that she made that first time.
Snark must be a "In my way offence".
What Destania's really thinking we can only guess, but that definitely looked like a grin of malice intent.
Remind me not to talk in her class.
I don't know what would be worst the fact she would get a thrill hitting me or the cold lecture I would get after that about causing her any problems.
Quote from: Unsilenced on May 03, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on May 03, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
...Is it bad that I find myself blaming Dee as being part of the reason Abel is so f'ed up now? I don't want to be accused of having a Dan mentality, after all. (Not that I think he's a homophobe. I think he's just overcoming lots of prejudice against Cubi.)
Also, I just made a mental comparison of couples: Edward and Destania to Vegeta and Bulma in DBZ. The most unlikely couple ever, yet one manages to overcome their normally savage, mean, and sociopathic nature for the sake of another person. Enough to raise perfectly normal children and be a loving spouse.
...I think this shows just how strong Edward is as a character, in a weird way. Same argument my roommate used on me for Vegeta and Bulma.
His entire childhood was a lie, his father abused him, he went years without seeing his mother then arrived just in time to watch her die, just about every authority figure he has ever known has been cruel to him and apparently the only reason he is alive is because his lying abusive father has an agenda.
I think he might have more issues than being whipped by the mother of a future acquaintance.
EDIT: Oh, and let's not forget that he has recently been accused of being responsible (at least through inaction) for his mother's death, and has been told that he must not really have loved her.
I'm not saying that there wasn't a LOT in his life so far that probably screwed him up way more than Dee. I'm just saying her actions towards him could be part of it. Looking at his rant to Dan about her, he certainly seems to view her as the symbol of all that is wrong with the Cubi.
Quote from: Black_angel on May 03, 2010, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Unsilenced on May 03, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on May 03, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
...Is it bad that I find myself blaming Dee as being part of the reason Abel is so f'ed up now? I don't want to be accused of having a Dan mentality, after all. (Not that I think he's a homophobe. I think he's just overcoming lots of prejudice against Cubi.)
Also, I just made a mental comparison of couples: Edward and Destania to Vegeta and Bulma in DBZ. The most unlikely couple ever, yet one manages to overcome their normally savage, mean, and sociopathic nature for the sake of another person. Enough to raise perfectly normal children and be a loving spouse.
...I think this shows just how strong Edward is as a character, in a weird way. Same argument my roommate used on me for Vegeta and Bulma.
His entire childhood was a lie, his father abused him, he went years without seeing his mother then arrived just in time to watch her die, just about every authority figure he has ever known has been cruel to him and apparently the only reason he is alive is because his lying abusive father has an agenda.
I think he might have more issues than being whipped by the mother of a future acquaintance.
EDIT: Oh, and let's not forget that he has recently been accused of being responsible (at least through inaction) for his mother's death, and has been told that he must not really have loved her.
I'm not saying that there wasn't a LOT in his life so far that probably screwed him up way more than Dee. I'm just saying her actions towards him could be part of it. Looking at his rant to Dan about her, he certainly seems to view her as the symbol of all that is wrong with the Cubi.
Other parts being Aaryanna, Fa'lina, Mink... the whole SAIA did not much to him. I only hope when he'll visit mother's funeral (I assume he will!) he'll deside to stay in Zinvth a little longer - to taste live, meet people who live life, probably sort out what he want to do with his own life. One can only hope.
Quote from: Demont on May 03, 2010, 03:24:38 AM
I wonder if Destania is venting some anger of Abel's dad at him? :erk
Probably. The first thing I thought of when she hit him. Is when his father struck her. Maybe she is venting anger. :c
It really is interesting how everything seems to tie back to Destania in the plot.
Let's see... Dan and Alexi's mother, Abel's teacher, major factor in the extermination of Fa'Lina's clan, a mysterious relationship with Pyroduck, instigated the latest round of Dark Pegasus-Dan conflict, and is planning something nasty for the dragon race as a whole.
Destania is almost the main character that's never there...
Quote from: Vanvidum on May 03, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 03, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
Well, given that the Cyra clan's emotional affinity is pain.. it's like having a meals on wheels for her.
Q: What did the pain-affinity cubi get at the drive through?
A: A slappy meal!
...I'll be going now.
Heeheehee... I mean, that pun was
terrible.
Well, at least we see now why Abel's surprised that Dan wasn't born with frostbite... (Or maybe he was... Hard to tell when they're that age...) But seriously, could someone JUST come out and SAY "Abel, Aniz isn't as strong as you think he is. Let me show what he's planning and how to take him down." It's like watching a Furrae version of Those Who Hunt Elves...
I'm all for trying to get him to learn how to fight back, but berating him and regularly smacking him upside the head probably aren't the best ways to go about doing it... Heck, I doubt a full-force beat down would help. Abel's just too much of a pacifist in nature... Maybe if you stuck him with a God of Annoyance incarnate and left him alone for a... Oh, Fa'Lina... I see what you did there...
Regardless... DANIEL'S MOM... HAS GOT IT GOIN'-*Gets shot.*
If there is ever a Destania wallpaper, I think it needs to include this outfit.
OOOOH Abels about to lose it!
Quote from: SoWhatIfImFurry on May 03, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
OOOOH Abels about to lose it!
Ignoring the disturbing amount of optimism in that statement, yes indeed it does.
I think this thread was a bit too absorbed with that last panel to notice that Abel's despair has turned to wrath. =p
Quote from: Unsilenced on May 03, 2010, 08:17:22 PM
Quote from: SoWhatIfImFurry on May 03, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
OOOOH Abels about to lose it!
Ignoring the disturbing amount of optimism in that statement, yes indeed it does.
I think this thread was a bit too absorbed with that last panel to notice that Abel's despair has turned to wrath. =p
I truly hope he tries something. I always enjoy a good beat down! :3
And yes, I do think Abel deserves this, but only because he was completely insubordinate to like, the worst possible teacher in SAIA to do so to. Well, maybe not the worst, but still bad.
Quote from: Scarydragon on May 03, 2010, 08:32:32 PM
I always enjoy a good beat down! :3
Context: You never realize how important it is until it's gone.
*Un-lurk*
Would this count as "a problem Abel cannot run away from"?
Seems it would
Also, Amber's art is getting better! As is the writing.
Quote from: lilpuppy23 on May 03, 2010, 09:04:55 PM
Would this count as "a problem Abel cannot run away from"?
Seems it would
Oh, I think you'd be surprised just how many things one can run away from :U (or try to, at least)
Destania decidedly looks like she cares. If she didn't, she wouldn't be there. It's not like Abel went to her -- or to anyone, for that matter. He's been rather reclusive. And while he may need someone to break him out of his withdrawal, I don't see very many qualified for the role.
Quote from: Pvblivs on May 03, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
Destania decidedly looks like she cares. If she didn't, she wouldn't be there. It's not like Abel went to her -- or to anyone, for that matter. He's been rather reclusive. And while he may need someone to break him out of his withdrawal, I don't see very many qualified for the role.
I DO! #1 Squiggle is up for the job. Aarryanna and Destania aren't.
I don't see how Abel deserves a smack for
not bothering anyone about problems that he doesn't really feel concerned about just because Destania wants to make him into her pawn to aid her in a matter that is
no longer of any concern to him. Aaryanna's verbal beratement of him is similarly undeserved (and laughably futile because she can't do a damn thing about it) simply because there's a quality in him she doesn't like, while he
doesn't give a damn about how she feels, and has no desire to get in her pants...
Aniz is no longer of any concern to Abel... stopping the monster wouldn't have saved his mortal mother. His problems are strictly his own, it's not Dee nor Aary's place to intervene. So, they throw a hissy fit because he's exercising his right to not care about Dee or Aary's goals or desires... Fundamental, inalienable right.
Quote from: Pagan on May 03, 2010, 02:43:38 PMI agree with most of this. SAIA and 'Cubi culture is not the culture of Western society. Or even any human society. However, Dest took thorough pleasure in smacking Abel.
This is an important point, and one worth repeating.
It is also worth repeating that the crop-whack jolted Abel into what looks like a serious fangs-barred mad-on, and it would not surprise me if Dee did this in part to show Abel that he is sorely lacking in the combat side of things. What follows next is likely to be Abel attempting to whail on Dee and showing just how lacking he is... and while that is a goal of Dee, I can see her quite, QUITE enjoying the lesson.
Mind you, I think that she is still (in the words of Biggs) FRICKIN' HOT! but... okay, some people are cool with the sadistic dominatrix schtick, but I'm afraid not me. Which makes that and the juxtaposition of her being a clearly sexual creature in these last couple of strips all the more jarring. (Which is probably what she's aiming for. The emotional confusion could be, I don't know, 'tasty?')
Dee is, in precise terms: A sadistic, genocidal monster, with a strong "Sexual Predator" vibe...
Anyone care to contend any of those points?
Quote from: Professor Fate on May 03, 2010, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Demont on May 03, 2010, 03:24:38 AM
I wonder if Destania is venting some anger of Abel's dad at him? :erk
Probably. The first thing I thought of when she hit him. Is when his father struck her. Maybe she is venting anger. :c
That's an interesting theory. If I recall correctly, Aniz lashed a wing tendril at Destania's face (her right cheek if I recall correctly). Seeing Destania strike Abel in the same general area gave me on of those feelings of déjà vu.
Annnnnnd speaking of Abel, does anyone else here think that Abel is going to retaliate? I mean... physically? His claws are out, and with what's happened and all, I wouldn't try my luck.
I smell savagery afoot. Excuse me while I go grab a kevlar vest...
Quote from: Scow2 on May 03, 2010, 10:53:20 PM
Dee is, in precise terms: A sadistic, genocidal monster, with a strong "Sexual Predator" vibe...
Anyone care to contend any of those points?
Now you're just asking to be lit on fire.
Quote from: Scow2 on May 03, 2010, 10:53:20 PM
Dee is, in precise terms: A sadistic, genocidal monster, with a strong "Sexual Predator" vibe...
Man...that is always awkward in the interview process when they get to that part of the resume. :U
Quote from: Scow2 on May 03, 2010, 10:53:20 PM
Dee is, in precise terms: A sadistic, genocidal monster, with a strong "Sexual Predator" vibe...
Good summation of Cubi racial traits, but what about her personality? 8)
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 03, 2010, 11:55:40 PM
Quote from: Scow2 on May 03, 2010, 10:53:20 PM
Dee is, in precise terms: A sadistic, genocidal monster, with a strong "Sexual Predator" vibe...
Man...that is always awkward in the interview process when they get to that part of the resume. :U
Works great when applying for a job at a public school though.
... ...
I'm sure somebody's already brought it up... but Dan's Mom is hot as a dominatrix...
Quote from: Saist on May 04, 2010, 01:07:42 AM
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I'm sure somebody's already brought it up... but Dan's Mom is hot as a dominatrix...
There have been posts about it.
You know, like, this entire thread. =p
(Ok not really but...)
Quote from: Rambon on May 03, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
This is still fa-teen right?
Fa-teen? Is that another cubi at SAIA? :mowwink
Quote from: Jairus on May 03, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
...she just physically assaulted a student outside of a particular classroom environment (like combat or her lecture or even detention) where it might be justified...
Currently, all I'm seeing is a sadist who just took a riding crop to a student and enjoyed it.
I'm sure the standards at SAIA are vastly looser than even other Furrae schools, let alone our own, when it comes to physical and mental abuse between faculty and students (and between faculty and faculty, and between students and students).
Quote from: Pagan on May 03, 2010, 02:43:38 PM
I agree with most of this. SAIA and 'Cubi culture is not the culture of Western society. Or even any human society. However, Dest took thorough pleasure in smacking Abel.
Hell, I'd take pleasure in smacking him too.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 03, 2010, 03:36:53 PM
I only hope when he'll visit mother's funeral (I assume he will!) he'll deside to stay in Zinvth a little longer - to taste live, meet people who live life, probably sort out what he want to do with his own life. One can only hope.
I think we can assume that at this point the funeral is already over, that Abel may have stayed just long enough for it before returning to SAIA. We haven't had any indication that he had any other family to be notified, causing a long wait between her death and burial (or whatever) for them to attend.
Quote from: Caraig on May 03, 2010, 10:42:59 PM
Mind you, I think that she is still (in the words of Biggs) FRICKIN' HOT!
Are you sure? Wasn't that Destania herself in disguise, playing Biggs unnervingly well (and giving Dan a bad case of TMI)? ;)
Quote from: Saist on May 04, 2010, 01:07:42 AM
... ...
I'm sure somebody's already brought it up... but Dan's Mom is hot as a dominatrix...
as? seeing as she quite literally thrives off of pain, i'd say that was more her
uniform >:3
I would give into the baiting but all I'm going to say is this: It generally isn't wise to be snide or rude to someone much nastier than yourself who happens to be wielding a weapon and who derives sustenance from pain. In a world where two students fighting results in limbs being torn off (remember the fight Not-so-Abel and Aary had when he de-dressu'd her, and the resultant missing half wing that they had to reattach? (link (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php))), I'd say a crop to the face for being rude to a professor is a pretty light punishment. SAIA is designed to help teach Cubi to go on and live happy lives. Thing is, they live in a world where adventurers are trying to slay them constantly, nastier things would like nothing more than to stomp them out and things far more terrible than them lurk and actively stalk. If they can't take a little bit of physical abuse, they're not going to do well in this world. As for Destania taking pleasure in it? She's Cyra. Her emotional affinity is pain. If every time I punched you, I got mint chocolate chip icecream.. I'd probably start punching you a whole lot, and honestly, I'd enjoy it.
That said, you all seem to have missed something that has been a major theme in this comic so far: There's more than one side to every story, people aren't flat, one dimension personalities. Sure, Dee's a pretty vicious creature where it comes to the dragons, why wouldn't she be? They're trying to exterminate her, too and she won't stand for it. That's the extent of her 'genocidal' tendencies that people like to harp on about. She was also a caring mother, a loving wife who even now is trying to save her husband, and honestly you may see her harshness in school as some sickness, but I see it as fair prep for a world where one misstep can get you killed by something that decided you look tasty and didn't appreciate the words that were coming from your mouth.
Also, on the 'more than flat personalities': I think Destania's 'nastier' nature isn't something strictly hers. Know that Fa'lina lady you all seem to think isn't so bad? Yeah, even she finds some of Destania's quirks amusing (link (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_568.php)). She's even a bit of an insane sadist (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_591.php) herself.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 04, 2010, 08:15:51 AM
I would give into the baiting but all I'm going to say is this: It generally isn't wise to be snide or rude to someone much nastier than yourself who happens to be wielding a weapon and who derives sustenance from pain. In a world where two students fighting results in limbs being torn off (remember the fight Not-so-Abel and Aary had when he de-dressu'd her, and the resultant missing half wing that they had to reattach? (link (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php))), I'd say a crop to the face for being rude to a professor is a pretty light punishment. SAIA is designed to help teach Cubi to go on and live happy lives. Thing is, they live in a world where adventurers are trying to slay them constantly, nastier things would like nothing more than to stomp them out and things far more terrible than them lurk and actively stalk. If they can't take a little bit of physical abuse, they're not going to do well in this world. As for Destania taking pleasure in it? She's Cyra. Her emotional affinity is pain. If every time I punched you, I got mint chocolate chip icecream.. I'd probably start punching you a whole lot, and honestly, I'd enjoy it.
That said, you all seem to have missed something that has been a major theme in this comic so far: There's more than one side to every story, people aren't flat, one dimension personalities. Sure, Dee's a pretty vicious creature where it comes to the dragons, why wouldn't she be? They're trying to exterminate her, too and she won't stand for it. That's the extent of her 'genocidal' tendencies that people like to harp on about. She was also a caring mother, a loving wife who even now is trying to save her husband, and honestly you may see her harshness in school as some sickness, but I see it as fair prep for a world where one misstep can get you killed by something that decided you look tasty and didn't appreciate the words that were coming from your mouth.
Also, on the 'more than flat personalities': I think Destania's 'nastier' nature isn't something strictly hers. Know that Fa'lina lady you all seem to think isn't so bad? Yeah, even she finds some of Destania's quirks amusing (link (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_568.php)). She's even a bit of an insane sadist (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_591.php) herself.
True.
Nothing stays the same and every thing changes giving time.
She has a very caring nature to her children so she can't be all bad.
Her totall destruction of the dragon race might be bad news for Ducky and Alexis.
While were on the topic of dragons that are egging Destinia on, do you think the dragon with the group of amazon's in Dan's first meeting of DP might have been an out cast who really couldn't care less who Dan's mom is?
I would think a younger generation might get tired of hunting and killing just to kill entire families after a while.
Quote from: joshofspam on May 04, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
I would think a younger generation might get tired of hunting and killing just to kill intire families after a while.
From what we saw of pyroduck, it is the case at least concerning him
Umm... Meow! o.o;
Quote from: joshofspam on May 04, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
Her totall destruction of the dragon race might be bad news for Ducky and Alexis.
While were on the topic of dragons that are egging Destinia on, do you think the dragon with the group of amazon's in Dan's first meeting of DP might have been an out cast who really couldn't care less who Dan's mom is?
That "total destruction" may be a bit of exaggeration for Biggs' benefit. We won't know for quite a while. Individuals (like Ducky, Shanna) may be untargeted.
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 04, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Good summation of Cubi racial traits, but what about her personality? 8)
No, no, other way around. Plenty of 'cubi who aren't horrible monsters by virtually any standard exist.
I swear.
Like... uh... Mink.
Quote from: Caswin on May 04, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
No, no, other way around. Plenty of 'cubi who aren't horrible monsters by virtually any standard exist.
I swear.
Like... uh... Mink.
I notice you left Dan and Abel off that list >:3
Quote from: Caswin on May 04, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
Quote from: Congo Jack on May 04, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Good summation of Cubi racial traits, but what about her personality? 8)
No, no, other way around. Plenty of 'cubi who aren't horrible monsters by virtually any standard exist.
I swear.
Like... uh... Mink.
Also, in my previous post, I showed how I specifically tailored each word to fit Destania, not 'cubi as a whole...
Quote from: ooklah on May 03, 2010, 03:00:57 AM
Everyone just wants to pick on abel. He's the quiet nerdy one that all the bully's radar locks onto for beating on.
I thought that he was the mouthy sarcastic jerk whose mouth is like laser guided radar for fists?
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 04, 2010, 01:31:56 PM
I notice you left Dan and Abel off that list >:3
It was a joke brought on by not wanting to get dragged into an actual debate.
That said, Dan was actually my first instinct, then Abel, then Quoar, then Mink, and, I'm sure, plenty of others. Sadism and other assorted "evil" traits are not racially inherent to 'cubi; at best, they seem to be loosely cultural.
And by all accounts, Destania is -- was -- even worse than most of them. For the record, I'm not going to challenge any of Scow2's conclusions.
Quote from: Caswin on May 04, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
It was a joke brought on by not wanting to get dragged into an actual debate.
Yeah, I can appreciate that.
I think Fa'lina and even Amber has hinted that Destania was one of the types that gives every cubi a bad name. And Her clan leader has been link to starting the Dragon-Cubi wars. So, Who knows that Dee and Biggs plan will cause, now.
The problem I see Is what will Dan think of his Mother, when her scheme come into play?
PBH
Two thoughts.
One, I hope Abel is shielding his thoughts effectively, because Destania had picked a pretty bad time to draw attention to her appearance. She couldn't look more ridiculous if she were wearing an orange wig and riding a unicycle.
Two, whoever said violence is the last recourse of the incompetent probably wasn't very good at it. This is why we do not mouth off to people who can rip us apart like a roast chicken.
As an addendum, I'm still somewhat baffled by the mad on some people have for Abel. If the guy wants to sit on his backside for a couple of centuries and do sweet FA, why shouldn't he? He's immortal and he's got a pretty cushy gig going on. Why not spend a few lifetimes doing the 'cubi equivalent of sitting around in his underpants and playing x-box?
Quote from: danman on May 04, 2010, 03:04:06 PM
Not to mention the only reason she is antagonistic towards abel somewhat (and even that i wouldn't be sure of - otherwise she would do decisively less talking and more beating up)
Er... unless I'm reading the page incorrectly, she is doing less talking and more beating up. That said, I could almost see mild physical violence as "somewhat antagonistic" by her standards.
Oh! Also!
Gee... that must hurt!
(has anyone else mentioned that yet?)
Abel appears to have made a grave miscalculation.
Destania offered Abel assistance in obtaining something she thought he would want (Revenge against Aniz) to their mutual benefit; Abel seems to have misconstrued this as a sign that he and Destania are somehow equals, or at least on the same reasonably level playing-field. He is of course mistaken, Destania is far above him both in the hierarchy of SAIA and in personal power and sees him merely as a potential tool.. a tool that is now sitting dull and rusty in the shed.
One simply does not have to 'give a damn' about what others think or feel about you or their attempts at baiting you into a tit-for-tat battle of words in hopes of pushing your buttons when you can simply crush them like a bug.
:judges
@Les
I think that was an excellent summary of what has happened.
Although i have certain suspicion that what Destania was to explain would have involved the riding crop even if he did not let his mouth take a walk...
Indeed. Destania is a succubus who not only at this point is an active professor at SAIA but 'Feared and Respected[tm]' in a particularly 'Feared and Respected[tm]' field, but is also a member of what is alluded to be a powerful.. if numbers-depleted clan. Abel then proceeds to... be Abel.. at her like she were just one of the students.
Riding crop? High-heeled boots?
Destania is reminding me of a certain young and/or short prosecutor. :mowwink
I think there's a vague possibility that she's just asking that question to make it look sound she doesn't care, when she really does. Or that it's sort of a pop-quiz type thing.
Des: 'Do I look like someone who cares?'
Abel: 'Erm... yes?'
Des: 'Correct! Here's a cookie! (:'
...But then again, we know what Fa'Lina said about D's sense of humor.
Though considering her current standard behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if she was just saying that to play with his mind. If so, she may possibly let him know that she was messing with him later, but it's iffy.
Quote from: Infranscia on May 06, 2010, 03:19:08 AM
Riding crop? High-heeled boots?
Destania is reminding me of a certain young and/or short prosecutor. :mowwink
I think there's a vague possibility that she's just asking that question to make it look sound she doesn't care, when she really does. Or that it's sort of a pop-quiz type thing.
Des: 'Do I look like someone who cares?'
Abel: 'Erm... yes?'
Des: 'Correct! Here's a cookie! (:'
...But then again, we know what Fa'Lina said about D's sense of humor.
Though considering her current standard behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if she was just saying that to play with his mind. If so, she may possibly let him know that she was messing with him later, but it's iffy.
Oh hey Abel, remember when I dropped you with a riding crop? I was just messin' with yah. It's O.K.
Seriously, I don't imagine this is a huge deal for Destania. After all, familiarity breeds contempt, and you can grow awfully familiar if people see you day in and day out, decade after decade. I imagine she has to remind people who she is on a fairly regular basis.
Not that I blame Abel for over-stepping his bounds, mind you. He already seems to have a surplus of controlling female, so I doubt he was in the market for any more. It's not surprising his patience was worn a little thin.
The upshot of Destania is quite nice. Is Abel disliked because of his emo-ness and inaction towards other things, up to including completely ignoring it?
Quote from: kusanagi-sama on May 07, 2010, 08:24:01 PM
Is Abel disliked because of his emo-ness and inaction towards other things, up to including completely ignoring it?
Pretty much.
Mink is a pacifist because he just loves everything and everyone far too much to want to do anything violent, and we all wuv the squiggly.
Abel is pacifistic largely out of apathy, or so it seems anyway, so a significant portion of the fans on this board see him as a sulkey-emo-git as a result.
Quote from: Les on May 08, 2010, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: kusanagi-sama on May 07, 2010, 08:24:01 PM
Is Abel disliked because of his emo-ness and inaction towards other things, up to including completely ignoring it?
Pretty much.
Mink is a pacifist because he just loves everything and everyone far too much to want to do anything violent, and we all wuv the squiggly.
Abel is pacifistic largely out of apathy, or so it seems anyway, so a significant portion of the fans on this board see him as a sulkey-emo-git as a result.
Well, that and the crippling aversion to blood.
Hemophobia does NOT help in combat.
Reminds me of some movie, the name escapes me, but in it there's a hemophobic detective who catches a mugger. A brief fistfight ensues during which he beats the crap out of the mugger. After getting his face smashed, the mugger raises his hands and says something to the effect of "you win" just as a trickle of blood starts coming from his nose.
The detective faints and the mugger, after looking stunned for a moment, runs away.