hehehe, angry Abel rant made me giggle... as did the "I'd ship that"
I'm actually a bit bewildered by the whole 'ship that' comment. I mean I get why people say hit that when refering to sex, or even some of the other words (tap, nail, etc) but ship? Not that I have problems with making up more ways to sound perverted but.... ship?
Woah! Abel... actually threatened Wildy and is still alive? Abel is now Symbol of Awesomeness in my book.... more-so than before.
I wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that. As for reading into his reaction, he's making it totally clear he's not an asshole. He doesn't want to hurt Jy for no reason.
Ok. NOW I'm gay for Able.
Quote from: Netrogo on February 07, 2010, 01:20:57 AM
I'm actually a bit bewildered by the whole 'ship that' comment. I mean I get why people say hit that when refering to sex, or even some of the other words (tap, nail, etc) but ship? Not that I have problems with making up more ways to sound perverted but.... ship?
I stand corrected by the post below. "Shipping" appears to be bit vague, but Wildy seems to be rooting for Jy and Abel to have a relation"ship".
Abel's right, by the way. After all the meddling Jyrras' sisters try to do in his personal life, Jyrras would not like to be set up on a date by anyone.
Quote from: Netrogo on February 07, 2010, 01:20:57 AM
I'm actually a bit bewildered by the whole 'ship that' comment. I mean I get why people say hit that when refering to sex, or even some of the other words (tap, nail, etc) but ship? Not that I have problems with making up more ways to sound perverted but.... ship?
If you mean what I think you mean, it doesn't actually refer to any desire of Wildy's to hit, nail, tap or otherwise sexually inconvenience Abel. "Shipping (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping)" in fandom generally refers to an act of fictional matchmaking. It's a continuity nod to Wildy's obsession with Yu Gi Oh fanfiction (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_434.php), which I think we can all guess the nature of by now.
Someone got to explaining the "ship that" comment before me :< Alas.
Also, although I can sort of understand why people dislike Wildy, I rather like her. Despite how Abel took her nosy-ing, it's clear that Wildy was simply investigating for Jyrras' sake no matter how much it seemed to Abel that she had some other hidden agenda. P:
Well now, that certainly made my day awesome. :3
Not that often we get to see Abel's "soft" side.I can see why Abel doesn't like mind games, as he did self-proclaim himself an "honest jerk" to Jyrras.
Thing about Wildy's mind games... didn't Abel just fall for one right there? I get the feeling Abel thought Wildy was trying to screw around with Jyrras (and him as well).
Quote from: Sprinkles on February 07, 2010, 01:40:05 AM
Also, although I can sort of understand why people dislike Wildy, I rather like her. Despite how Abel took her nosy-ing, it's clear that Wildy was simply investigating for Jyrras' sake no matter how much it seemed to Abel that she had some other hidden agenda. P:
I agree, it seems Wildy wanted to see the type of person Abel was. Thus, wouldn't anyone else here call that a "mind-game?" :mowdizzy
I certainly would.
On another note, I have finally figured out what Wildy is. She's a combination of two things, definitions of which can be found on TV Tropes and Idioms. They are the Trickster and Manipulative [censorship]. :U
....
DAMNIT!
Rant or not, she effing got away with it!
Quote from: Minishear on February 07, 2010, 01:51:22 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on February 07, 2010, 01:33:26 AM
Ok. NOW I'm gay for Able.
It's Abel, dammit.
Correcting people wont stop them from spelling
Able's >:3 name wrong.
On a more related note, I am interested in the culmination of Wildy's plan. Which seems like it will result in another novel book thing. Which I like.
Quote from: Minishear on February 07, 2010, 01:51:22 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on February 07, 2010, 01:33:26 AM
Ok. NOW I'm gay for Able.
It's Abel, dammit.
... I have a certain spot for Able now, FYI I consider myself not attracted to males. Able has a certain addictive personality.
wow she's good to play a mind game on someone with that many years of experience. miss san has gone up a notch in the non violent category of my respect tables
QuoteI wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that.
Who says he doesn't? Indeed, I rather felt that when he put up the last mindshield, it was implied he did, in fact, know that Jyrras had a crush on him.
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on February 07, 2010, 07:15:48 AM
QuoteI wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that.
Who says he doesn't? Indeed, I rather felt that when he put up the last mindshield, it was implied he did, in fact, know that Jyrras had a crush on him.
I thought Jy didn't get his crush until
after the shield was in place?
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
And I'm pretty sure when Abel said "I do -not- like mind games", he meant, "do not mess with me".
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 07, 2010, 02:12:34 AM
DAMNIT!
Rant or not, she effing got away with it!
I see it not so much as a rant but as a Final Warning. Which is an improvement.
Though I suspect that Dan would interfere if he ever gets around to bringing her down a peg. Mind you, that itself might be pretty cool to watch - I could easily imagine him laying into Dan about what Aniz did and why Wildy shouldn't be allowed to do anything similar.
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
Because she walked away from it with an (unseen by Abel) smirk and a witty remark. This just makes it look as if she brushed off his rant-warning and continued on her merrily self-absorbed way, without even apologising for pestering someone about their personal life.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 07, 2010, 07:57:40 AM
I see it not so much as a rant but as a Final Warning. Which is an improvement.
Though I suspect that Dan would interfere if he ever gets around to bringing her down a peg. Mind you, that itself might be pretty cool to watch - I could easily imagine him laying into Dan about what Aniz did and why Wildy shouldn't be allowed to do anything similar.
I grow increasingly concerned each time we appear to be operating on near-similar wavelengths like that. It's just not right. :P
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 07, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
I grow increasingly concerned each time we appear to be operating on near-similar wavelengths like that. It's just not right. :P
It happens more than you might think. Most likely it's just that we disagree more vocally than we agree.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 07, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
Because she walked away from it with an (unseen by Abel) smirk and a witty remark. This just makes it look as if she brushed off his rant-warning and continued on her merrily self-absorbed way, without even apologising for pestering someone about their personal life.
I guess to me it was more of a "well played, good sir", rather than "I totally just played him for a sucker".
More likely than not, Wildy probably respects Abel simply for standing up for himself and everyone she messes with, and for saying up front that he will not be taking any more of her bullshit.
Also, she was ejected from the Inn fairly abruptly, so it's no wonder she didn't apologize. (I seriously doubt she would have anyways.)
I am now so straight for Abel that my adoration for his character has twisted into a paradox, thus making me Gay For Abel.
This was his
Crowning Moment of Awesome. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome?from=Main.CrowningMomentOfAwesome)
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 08:40:43 AM
I guess to me it was more of a "well played, good sir", rather than "I totally just played him for a sucker".
More likely than not, Wildy probably respects Abel simply for standing up for himself and everyone she messes with, and for saying up front that he will not be taking any more of her bullshit.
I'm gonna agree with this.
All i know is I agree with Abel on one thing: I don't like wildy. At first i thought she was just spunky, with an in-your-face personality. looking back now...i think she's just MEAN....as bad in her way as any of the more uppity demons we've seen. Wildy is NOT a hero of this piece..shand as Abel pointed out, she's not even really a freind. Sadly, i expect the chances of her actually getting taken down a peg are about equal to Dan actaully showing himself to be a competant adventurer. (which I haven't seen yet) Come to think of it, I'm starting to notice that all of the male characters in the comic are being put through grief several orders of magnitude above anything the females are subject to....THEY just seem to skate away scot-free,
The best part about all this?
It shows that Abel likes Jyrras enough to stand up and protect him. >:3
Hmm.
Abel doesn't like mind games? It seems to me he's been playing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_648.php) a lot (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_649.php) himself (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_749.php). :P
Also....Jyjy doesn't like being set up? Hoohoohooo... I hope that's foreshadowing for the fruits of this strip (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_774.php) to show up. I'm rather excited for the return of Dette. I liked her.
Um.........wow. Just wow.
I thought I was gay for Abel before but... DAYUM. As of this moment, he rocks.
And I didn't quite get what Wildy was doing till you guys speculated it so much you explained it. So thanks! I can still like Wildy now without feeling guilty. :3
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
And I'm pretty sure when Abel said "I do -not- like mind games", he meant, "do not mess with me".
Because Wildy San came in there making it seem like she was just cruising for random gay dudes with the intent to toss them at Jyrras, each attempted match more hilariously fail than the last, purely for her own twisted entertainment.. and Abel totally fell for it.
In actuality, Wildy was 'souding-out' Abel to see if he was well and truly worthy of the affections of her Jy-Squeek. Wildy tested Abel and did not find him wanting, and now she is most pleased.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on February 07, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
Because she walked away from it with an (unseen by Abel) smirk and a witty remark. This just makes it look as if she brushed off his rant-warning and continued on her merrily self-absorbed way, without even apologising for pestering someone about their personal life.
I kind of think it was all more of a test of Abel's personality. She's seen as much as she needs by non-interference. Now she has to churn things up a bit to see how Abel reacts. And he reacted pretty well, all things considered. Remember, she is sibling to Biggs. More violent and quick-tempered, but I'm willing to bet she has some of that same manipulative mind.
All things considered, I don't think it'd be too hard for her to mislead Abel into believing her "matchmaker" setup, mind shield or not. Her reputation speaks for her, making it easy to believe she'd be just that much of a jerk to try to matchmake away Jyrras' problems. If Abel's not expecting her to be any better than that, he won't look any further than he needs to verify his suspicions.
So, my final judgement on Wildy? Just a friend, looking out for her friend, albeit in a twisted, misleading sort of way. I don't think she actually had intentions of trying to matchmake them together. Just testing Abel to make sure he's not as much of a jerk as he pretends to be.
Edit: Les beat me to it. Heh.
Quote from: Dagardo on February 07, 2010, 02:40:32 AM
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On a more related note, I am interested in the culmination of Wildy's plan. Which seems like it will result in another novel book thing. Which I like.
Agreed...methinks we'll be seeing a more fictional exploration of the Abel/ Jyrras storyline at the hands of Wildy's warped little mind...And obviously when Abel finds out about it, he will NOT be anywhere near as forgiving as Jyrras was over the whole Janus Bond fiasco : readies popcorn:
:dface
:erk
Alright. Disregard everything I said earlier, I'm with Janus now. "Cute, if a bit silly" is not the proper reaction if you just got the final warning from a 300 years old Incubus, shaman or not.
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 07, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Why is everyone acting like Wildy got away with messing with Abel? It seems to me that she tried to manipulate him into hooking up with Jyrras and Abel called her out on it.
And I'm pretty sure when Abel said "I do -not- like mind games", he meant, "do not mess with me".
I think what Abel meant was exactly what he said, he does not like mind games.
Sure, he'll use his powers to play more or less harmless pranks on others, but as far as seriously affecting them emotionally, he could never bring himself to do it. Some people here (and perhaps Wildy) might think this is because Abel is close to Jyrrras. I thinks it's a lot deeper than that.
Abel's early experience obviously deeply imprinted on him what a powerless being (which he thought he was) feels when they're being manipulated - and he obviously hated it, and doesn't want to be a creature like Aniz or any of the others who are like that.
In other words, while he's gotten as close to Jyrras as he has, that probably isn't very close, even for a quasi-immortal creature. No, I think he's threatening Wildy because of what she is doing, not who she's doing it to.
Quote from: Arcblade on February 07, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
So, my final judgement on Wildy? Just a friend, looking out for her friend, albeit in a twisted, misleading sort of way. I don't think she actually had intentions of trying to matchmake them together. Just testing Abel to make sure he's not as much of a jerk as he pretends to be.
Based on what happened while they were talking, I could agree with you. But the last two panels were showing her alone, more or less giving insight in her thoughts. And at least there you'd have seen the Wildy that just wants to look out for a friend. Instead you got "I'd ship that". That doesn't really fit, not even for Wildy.
I'm not really worrying that much for Abel, more for Jyrras. That guy has been the emotional plaything of pretty much everyone in the past. I think he should hurry up a little with his "becoming a threat to the Creature Council" plans at least. Or even better, be the one who stops Wildie's games this time. Which would be cool in my opinion, at least.
Very interesting. So, Abel gets Wildy's seal of approval. That's nothing to shake a stick at.
I'm not remotely surprised that she is pleased; she does seem to respect people who can stand up for themselves and others and, as much as she might feign otherwise, I suspect she cares deeply for her friends and really does have their best interests at heart.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 07, 2010, 07:57:40 AM
Though I suspect that Dan would interfere if he ever gets around to bringing her down a peg. Mind you, that itself might be pretty cool to watch - I could easily imagine him laying into Dan about what Aniz did and why Wildy shouldn't be allowed to do anything similar.
First, unless Wildy's life is in danger (e.g. Regina), I don't see Dan interfering. If it's just a beatdown, Wildy can take it, and he knows he can't go toe to toe with Abel for very long in a fight. Just not enough experience as a Cubi fighter yet.
Second, Abel is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too private of a person to ever tell Dan what happened regarding Aniz. I just can't conceive of a circumstance that would precipitate that.
Proviso: Note that what I can't conceive of, Amber can, and convincingly. That's one of the reasons I read this comic.
Let's look at the result of this conversation.
Abel has now decided to protect Jyrras from Wildy. This means that Abel and Jyrras will be in contact, although not necessarily as a dating relationship. Such a contact would probably be good for both Jyrras and Abel. After all, Abel needs to stop pushing people away and Jyrras could use advice from somebody with a little more maturity and experience.
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 07, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
First, unless Wildy's life is in danger (e.g. Regina), I don't see Dan interfering. If it's just a beatdown, Wildy can take it, and he knows he can't go toe to toe with Abel for very long in a fight. Just not enough experience as a Cubi fighter yet.
Realistically I think it would be a bit more like Jouster's character in strip 425.
QuoteSecond, Abel is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too private of a person to ever tell Dan what happened regarding Aniz. I just can't conceive of a circumstance that would precipitate that.
I was thinking of something along the lines of strip 811, where Abel is pushed into a difficult situation and then says things in a moment of anger that he probably regrets saying later.
Huh. How about that.
I think I like Abel now. Congratulations are in order to all parties concerned.
On a related note, I'm afraid I don't see where the interpretation of Wildy as everyone's caring friend comes from. Abel's comment on "the friendship you seem to think you two have" was appropriate.
God, Abel is such a jerk. He's the king of mind games, and has no business whatsoever whining about Wildy. I mean, for god's sake, even if she *was* randomly cruising for people to set Jyrras up with (a scenario that Abel invented entirely inside his head and she decided to go along with) that's not exactly hurting him. I'm sure setting people up on a blind date often goes wrong, but it's still a 'friend' thing to do.
And then when she tries to explain, he interrupts her to give her his hypocritical threatening rant and shoves her out the door. Wheeeee.
And of course, if you call him out on being a jerk, he'll just get all smug and agree since he *wants* to drive everyone away.
EDIT: I never *really* wanted to date Abel (since he was always a jerk, although the more we see of it the more it looks like he's a jerk *all the way through*), but at this point I think I'd rather date Regina. At least she'd just kill me.
I also see this as Wildey scoping out Abel on jy's behalf .She did it under slightly false pretenses to get him to show what he can be like in a serious situation, and got her stamp of approval from it.
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 07, 2010, 03:35:11 PM
I also see this as Wildey scoping out Abel on jy's behalf .She did it under slightly false pretenses to get him to show what he can be like in a serious situation, and got her stamp of approval from it.
We can't really tell. A lot depends on what she does with this information and how it is presented. Yes, she now knows that Abel is very defensive both of himself and apparently of people he likes (even if he doesn't show it).
However, Abel has said that he's not interested in anyone of any gender. Somehow I'm not convinced that that particular piece of information is going to be imparted to Jyrras.
Hmm. Have you ever heard that people who are too similar don't often get along at first?
I think this is a case in point. Both Abel and Wildy are KA, protective, slightly manipulative, a bit jerkish, and tend to think they have the upper hand.
At least we know on some level Abel probably likes Jyrras (as a friend definately at least), there have been several occasions he has helped him out (example the mind shield) that he didn't have to, if he didn't want to; yet he chose to.
Also, I thought about this today during a discussion a friend and I had concerning relationships, "closets", etc. Right now Abel is "uninterested", because not only of other factors (lack of strike of fancy, afraid of being hurt, etc), but perhaps he's worried about his cubi heritage background as well. We all know Aniz used his cubi abilities to hurt others. While Abel is aware he would never do that intentionally, since it happened to him; that does not excuse the phrase "things just happen". He could be concerned off unintentionally hurting others, when he doesn't want to. As there have been some admission from Jyrras at least, that he predicts that Abel cares about other people's happiness more so than his own.
I know this probably goes under the other discussion "Asexual Abel", but I felt it should go under here concerning the fact that this recent comic is kinda of an example of Abel looking out for other's happiness, in relation to Wildy's mind games, that would more in likely not make Jyrras happy in long run.
Of course, there's always the possibility that - Mind-game-wise - Abel just "Played" Wildy...
Quote from: Bjalf on February 07, 2010, 07:47:22 AM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on February 07, 2010, 07:15:48 AM
QuoteI wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that.
Who says he doesn't? Indeed, I rather felt that when he put up the last mindshield, it was implied he did, in fact, know that Jyrras had a crush on him.
I thought Jy didn't get his crush until after the shield was in place?
Back in 607-608 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_607.php) it sure seemed like Abel had picked up on who Jy's latest crush was.
As others have noted, Abel has good reason to hate mind games, having been put through the crusher by Aniz. And he can only speculate what his mother went through, since he didn't see her again until the day she died.
We probably don't know the full set of reasons Abel wants to isolate himself yet. It starts with him being naturally reserved and shy, aggravated by having been picked on for being different since he was a kid. And then there are the deaths of everyone he was close to or might even have become close to, all in a short space of time, culminating in Aniz's reveal. Cindy's suicide; Devin's being killed right after apologized being a jerk to Abel when they were kids, right after the headwings popping out; Aniz's reveal, Aniz killing Heenya. And then Aniz holding May's safety over Abel's head.
Yeah, if you don't care for anyone, you can't be hurt when they die.
But I think Abel cares more than he lets himself realize.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 07, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on February 07, 2010, 07:47:22 AM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on February 07, 2010, 07:15:48 AM
QuoteI wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that.
Who says he doesn't? Indeed, I rather felt that when he put up the last mindshield, it was implied he did, in fact, know that Jyrras had a crush on him.
I thought Jy didn't get his crush until after the shield was in place?
Back in 607-608 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_607.php) it sure seemed like Abel had picked up on who Jy's latest crush was.
As others have noted, Abel has good reason to hate mind games, having been put through the crusher by Aniz. And he can only speculate what his mother went through, since he didn't see her again until the day she died.
We probably don't know the full set of reasons Abel wants to isolate himself yet. It starts with him being naturally reserved and shy, aggravated by having been picked on for being different since he was a kid. And then there are the deaths of everyone he was close to or might even have become close to, all in a short space of time, culminating in Aniz's reveal. Cindy's suicide; Devin's being killed right after apologized being a jerk to Abel when they were kids, right after the headwings popping out; Aniz's reveal, Aniz killing Heenya. And then Aniz holding May's safety over Abel's head.
Yeah, if you don't care for anyone, you can't be hurt when they die.
But I think Abel cares more than he lets himself realize.
In other words, you're saying that he avoids making any connections with anyone because of a deep-rooted fear that dominates his mentality. However, though he may not know it, he does look out for people, right?
Here's something that's been nagging me. Wouldn't everyone here say he's gotten "stronger" over the three centuries he was at SAIA. As we've seen, he can definitely defend himself, and probably those around him, should the situation arise. Still, getting psychologically traumatized the way Abel was would mess up anyone's mind. There's also the dark nature surrounding Cubi, not to mention the war they're in with the Dragon race.
If I recall correctly, the following feelings Fa'Lina and Abel describe aren't all that uncommon for Cubi. http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_535.php
Wow. The boards filled so fast the last couple days I haven't even tried to slip in a word edge-wise.
Well, it seems despite her reputation, Wildy has been unable to deliver when Abel stands up to her - unless you count the one punch. http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_694.php
And Wildy seems to still think she won-I personally think it's still an impasse. No change of course at all.
Also, as of the question last week, I thought: "The worst response ever would be, 'I'm not gay, I'm a eunuch.'" I think this turned out a lot better than that could have.
Very interesting turn of events here... Finally, we find out that Abel has some fangs and is willing to not only bear them, but use them in the defense of a friend, the complete OPPOSITE of the jerk-persona he's been pretending to be...
And let's face it, Wildy probes, pushes buttons, and tests people to see how they'll react. Yes, Abel reacted, which Wildy was planning on. (Face it, you push enough, and most are BOUND to push back. Some push harder than others, obviously...)
Abel partially played into Wildy's hand in terms of revealing a facet of himself even he may not have known he has, and Wildy has revealed that she has a soft spot as well... Perhaps these two are more similar that I thought...
LONG LIVE DYNAMIC CHARACTERS, FOREVAH!
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on February 07, 2010, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 07, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
So, my final judgement on Wildy? Just a friend, looking out for her friend, albeit in a twisted, misleading sort of way. I don't think she actually had intentions of trying to matchmake them together. Just testing Abel to make sure he's not as much of a jerk as he pretends to be.
Based on what happened while they were talking, I could agree with you. But the last two panels were showing her alone, more or less giving insight in her thoughts. And at least there you'd have seen the Wildy that just wants to look out for a friend. Instead you got "I'd ship that". That doesn't really fit, not even for Wildy.
I took the "I'd ship that" comment as Wildy saying "Well, if it happens, I'd approve." We'll have to see if she's going to actively "ship that" or just watch what happens. It's all up to Amber. :)
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 07, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on February 07, 2010, 07:47:22 AM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on February 07, 2010, 07:15:48 AM
QuoteI wonder how he would've reacted if he knew Jy-squeak likes him like that.
Who says he doesn't? Indeed, I rather felt that when he put up the last mindshield, it was implied he did, in fact, know that Jyrras had a crush on him.
I thought Jy didn't get his crush until after the shield was in place?
Back in 607-608 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_607.php) it sure seemed like Abel had picked up on who Jy's latest crush was.
But at that point, Jy didn't yet have a crush on Abel, Abel thought the "latest poor unwitting sap" was Lorenda. Jy's crushes: First Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_564.php), then Lorenda (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_571.php), then Jy's mind is shielded (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_607.php), and only then does Jy develop a crush on Abel (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_608.php).
Now I have a tendency to take everything at face value without reading into it much, but I just thought Wildy was basically taking the bait from this strip (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_997.php) and trying "y'know, asking him?" without letting on that it was because Jyrras had a crush on him. Abel, thinking she had some other ulterior motives, gets mad and kicks her out. >_> Then Wildy at the end goes "well huh, I can see why Jyrras likes him."
As for Abel, as people have said, he knows what it's like to be treated like a plaything and doesn't like to see other people in that situation. Sort of a "no one should have to go through what I've been through" type thing. As for his own 'mind games,' I think that's less of a mind game and more of his trying to push everyone away 'cause of his general loner attitude.
Finally, as to why he didn't figure out her motives via thought-reading, we can either assume that Wildy's got talent in hiding her thoughts, ooor Abel's just not listening (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_864.php). In fact, I've sorta felt it was implied that he doesn't really listen to people's thoughts unless he makes the conscious effort to... and I guess he didn't think it necessary to do it in this situation.
Abel knows better than to read Wildy's thoughts. >:3 :P :rolleyes
She totally tricked Abel into giving her an honest answer she can relay to Jyrras.
-In her own unique tough-looking but actually secretly caring sort of way. :mwaha ;)
Heh. You'd think that Abel would be able to recognize when someone's acting like a jerk without being one. I guess he still doesn't know that the Janus Bond thing was due to a misunderstanding, so he's taking it at face value and assuming the worst.
Mind games are for the weak minded and poor of heart :P
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 07, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
First, unless Wildy's life is in danger (e.g. Regina), I don't see Dan interfering.
Actually, I think that was Dan's fault to begin with:
Regina became friends with Dan.
Dan took Regina to meet his friends.
Regina earns their trust.
Regina attacks Wildy when her back is turned.
Dan seeks vengence.
If it happened any other way I'm sure Wildy wouldn't have gotten even a scratch. (Unless that's the reason Wildy became fierce)
Quote from: iceick on February 08, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 07, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
First, unless Wildy's life is in danger (e.g. Regina), I don't see Dan interfering.
Actually, I think that was Dan's fault to begin with:
Regina became friends with Dan.
Dan took Regina to meet his friends.
Regina earns their trust.
Regina attacks Wildy when her back is turned.
Dan seeks vengence.
If it happened any other way I'm sure Wildy wouldn't have gotten even a scratch. (Unless that's the reason Wildy became fierce)
I think we're missing a few steps. We know that Regina murdered a dozen beings somewhere in the process. (ref: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php)
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on February 09, 2010, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: iceick on February 08, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 07, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
First, unless Wildy's life is in danger (e.g. Regina), I don't see Dan interfering.
Actually, I think that was Dan's fault to begin with:
Regina became friends with Dan.
Dan took Regina to meet his friends.
Regina earns their trust.
Regina attacks Wildy when her back is turned.
Dan seeks vengence.
If it happened any other way I'm sure Wildy wouldn't have gotten even a scratch. (Unless that's the reason Wildy became fierce)
I think we're missing a few steps. We know that Regina murdered a dozen beings somewhere in the process. (ref: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php)
I was just stating how Regina injured Wildy, but if you insist:
Regina earns their trust.
Regina kills visitors to Lost Lake while they sleep. Regina attacks Wildy when her back is turned.
Wildy being the only surviving witness tells Dan. Dan seeks vengence.
According to Regina's thoughts in this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php), Dan had first-hand knowledge of the fact that Regina attacked people at Lost Lake. Wildy wasn't the only one who Regina attacked but failed to kill.
Edit:
The previous page has Regina thinking "took advantage of his trust and used it to kill a dozen beings and then tried to kill him and his friends. Sure I vowed to destroy him and all he loved?" Also given the fact that Dan and Regina recognized each other so quickly seems to indicate that they had a face-to-face encounter. Dan also seems to be a lot more teed off than just having somebody try to kill him. In addition, this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1009.php) seems to indicate that Wildy would have expected Dan to know what happened. Also when Dan promised to kill Regina, he would have probably done some research on her. So I would think that Dan would know what happened to Regina.
However, I am jumping to conclusions in assuming that the attack took place at Lost Lake. I'm going to have to reconsider that.
How does that say anything about Dan knowing. All it says is that Regina nearly beat Dan (probably because Dan was to emotional).
Quote from: Naldru on February 09, 2010, 03:29:20 PM
According to Regina's thoughts in this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php), Dan had first-hand knowledge of the fact that Regina attacked people at Lost Lake. Wildy wasn't the only one who Regina attacked but failed to kill.
Where does it say "Lost Lake"?
To be truthful, everyone is just giving their speculations on the the "Dan/Regina Incident", so to be fair everyone has the right to speculate on where it might have happen. Even though it doesn't say Lost Lake doesn't mean that it could not have happened there, isn't that right?
I'll add a few observations:
Regina, after recovering from the shock of suddenly seeing Dan again, clocks him with the serving tray. Instead of following up that attack, she runs. After getting far enough ahead that she thinks she can hide, she plans on getting a weapon, and only then attacking Dan. Who is, as far as she knows, just an unarmed Being adventurer she "almost pulped" six years ago during their last encounter. But she doesn't want to face him unarmed herself.
I infer from this that Dan, however badly he got chewed up in that encounter six years ago, still managed to get in good enough licks to seriously scare Regina. She may not remember the name of "that adventurer's son", but she remembers that he's dangerous. :giggle
Then she found out he was an Incubus. >:3
Well it was Dan that cut off her wing.
You also have to remember that Dan was Kria's guest at the time. Trying to kill him in the same room Kria was entertaining him in would just be rude. :3
Quote from: Arcblade on February 10, 2010, 09:00:09 AM
You also have to remember that Dan was Kria's guest at the time. Trying to kill him in the same room Kria was entertaining him in would just be rude. :3
For some reason I'm now reminded of Kill Bill. >:3
Quote from: iceick on February 10, 2010, 01:59:52 AM
Well it was Dan that cut off her wing.
I'm curious where you acquired that bit of knowledge.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1008.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1008.php)
Unrelated to anything else... I went one step back from a link someone posted, and oh look! Now we know how Wildy escaped from the island!
Quote from: Bjalf on February 09, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 09, 2010, 03:29:20 PM
According to Regina's thoughts in this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php), Dan had first-hand knowledge of the fact that Regina attacked people at Lost Lake. Wildy wasn't the only one who Regina attacked but failed to kill.
Where does it say "Lost Lake"?
If it was long enough ago (before Alexsi took over), I doubt Regina could have survived an attempt at Lost Lake, since Dee would have been there... unless she was out getting supplies or something.
Quote from: MT Hazard on February 10, 2010, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: iceick on February 10, 2010, 01:59:52 AM
Well it was Dan that cut off her wing.
I'm curious where you acquired that bit of knowledge.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php and http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_999.php both seem to depict Regina as she was prior-to and during her fateful first encounter with Dan. We don't know the full details of how that all went-down but it is a possibility that before it was all over Gina was left uni-winged.
Quote from: Les on February 12, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php and http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_999.php both seem to depict Regina as she was prior-to and during her fateful first encounter with Dan. We don't know the full details of how that all went-down but it is a possibility that before it was all over Gina was left uni-winged.
Agreed! De-winged, in pain and wanting to probably "get the crap outta there"........................though I'm sorry, but I don't think the bone wing looks cool, it looks more like she trying to act all tough. XD Heh, the poser! She seemed pretty scared to see him the second time around! >:3 Enough to even piddle herself..........
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 13, 2010, 03:27:50 AM
Quote from: Les on February 12, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php and http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_999.php both seem to depict Regina as she was prior-to and during her fateful first encounter with Dan. We don't know the full details of how that all went-down but it is a possibility that before it was all over Gina was left uni-winged.
Agreed! De-winged, in pain and wanting to probably "get the crap outta there"........................though I'm sorry, but I don't think the bone wing looks cool, it looks more like she trying to act all tough. XD Heh, the poser! She seemed pretty scared to see him the second time around! >:3 Enough to even piddle herself..........
That scene was made of win and awesome and funny. :mwaha
Think about it, to put it in context it'd kinda be like if you went and (hypothetically) picked on the littlest kid in your class in High School, only to find out he knew Tae Kwon Do. A few years later you stumble across him again, and then you find out he's now Chthulu. >:3
Chthulu always wins!! >:3