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Title: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
They made him cry again.  Any guesses on what sparked the tears?  Also, am I the only one to realize just now that Abel only has eight fingers, as per panel 2?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on January 24, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
A hidden comic! scandalous!

I'm currently at loss of what exactly brought him over the edge, too. Maybe he slowly realizes what he actually heard in the last strip? In any way, strip #89 should be ... interesting... >_>
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: inuhanyo on January 24, 2010, 11:11:11 PM
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 24, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
A hidden comic! scandalous!

I'm currently at loss of what exactly brought him over the edge, too. Maybe he slowly realizes what he actually heard in the last strip? In any way, strip #89 should be ... interesting... >_>

Having been through the grinder himself, I think Abel knows all to well what his next half sibling would go through.  Even more, Aniz's next wife. He just hadn't thought forward about it.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Sprinkles on January 24, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
400? Currently, according to the cast page, Abel is 399. I feel like we're going to see the repercussions of Fa'lina's punishment on Aniz soon in the main comic; I'm sure Dan's enrollment in SAIA has something to do with it (also, remember what Ink said to Abel in order to rile him up - about Dan being Edward's son).
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
Quote from: Sprinkles on January 24, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
400? Currently, according to the cast page, Abel is 399. I feel like we're going to see the repercussions of Fa'lina's punishment on Aniz soon in the main comic; I'm sure Dan's enrollment in SAIA has something to do with it (also, remember what Ink said to Abel in order to rile him up - about Dan being Edward's son).

I too noticed this. According to the cast page, Aniz has to wait one (or maybe less than) a year before he can enroll another child as a student.

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php
Abel's reaction puzzles me. "Why would he care about Dan being Edward's son and not Destania's?"
I thought Abel got agitated just because Edward is Destania's husband. As we have all seen, Destania left a lasting impression on Abel.
Now that I think about it, though, it feels as if something is slipping through the cracks here...
I think I can safely say that drama is approaching, and when it hits, it will hit us like ton of bricks.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
it will hit us like ton of bricks.
Yay I like bricks...

Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
"Why would he care about Dan being Edward's son and not Destania's?"
Too easy gotta say it... Aniz is Edward *waits for people to yell at me*
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 12:19:58 AM
That has been postulated several times. No, Edward isn't Aniz, Destania would know.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:28:49 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 12:19:58 AM
That has been postulated several times. No, Edward isn't Aniz, Destania would know.
I know I felt like saying it though...
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: ChaosMageX on January 25, 2010, 12:36:23 AM
Ah, here we go, another Edward-Aniz debate.  These are so much fun to watch. >:3

Personally, I don't care if it turns out to be true or not.

However, in adding my two cents, I seem to notice a small continuity error:
On this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_018.php), Fa'lina states the ban length to be 375 years, which would end on Abel's 399th birthday.
However, on the current page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_088.php), Fa'lina states that the ban will end on Abel's 400th birthday.

Now, Fa'lina could simply be rounding up Abel's age to the nearest century for simplicity's sake, or it could mean something more.  Let your theories loose, and I will enjoy reading them. :P
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:41:59 AM
Me thinks that Abel is turning 400 which would mean the ban will end on Abel's 400th birthday. Otherwise we would have missed a whole huge cool storyline...
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
They made him cry again.  Any guesses on what sparked the tears?  Also, am I the only one to realize just now that Abel only has eight fingers, as per panel 2?
I'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 12:54:45 AM
I KNEW Kria wasn't all bad!

:cool
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 12:54:45 AM
I KNEW Kria wasn't all bad!

:cool
She is protecting a child she has known since he was young it's a maternal instinct just like her love for Lorenda
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 25, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
Quote from: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 12:54:45 AM
I KNEW Kria wasn't all bad!

:cool
She is protecting a child she has known since he was young it's a maternal instinct just like her love for Lorenda

Indeed. She isn't really evil when it comes to people important to her. She is our lovable, destructive demon-mare, who only wants the best for her friends and family... and to see her daughter become a harbinger of discord, chaos, and destruction! MWAHAHAHA >:3

ahem* clears throat*

Regarding that whole "Edward is really Aniz" theory, I don't think that's the case. Go figure, it's just one of those gut feelings.
However, if that is the case and Edward turns out to be Aniz, the events ensuing after should prove interesting. Particularly Dan's expression should Abel really turn out to be his brother :3
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Infranscia on January 25, 2010, 01:55:36 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 12:19:58 AM
That has been postulated several times. No, Edward isn't Aniz, Destania would know.

Who says she doesn't? ~_^  Yeah, I know.  It would seem odd.  Of course, a lot of time has passed between Abel's Story and DMFA.  We don't know what would have happened to her, or her reasoning for many things.

Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 25, 2010, 12:36:23 AM
Ah, here we go, another Edward-Aniz debate.  These are so much fun to watch. >:3

Personally, I don't care if it turns out to be true or not.

However, in adding my two cents, I seem to notice a small continuity error:
On this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_018.php), Fa'lina states the ban length to be 375 years, which would end on Abel's 399th birthday.
However, on the current page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_088.php), Fa'lina states that the ban will end on Abel's 400th birthday.

Now, Fa'lina could simply be rounding up Abel's age to the nearest century for simplicity's sake, or it could mean something more.  Let your theories loose, and I will enjoy reading them. :P

Yeah, I think she's probably rounding it up.  I'd done the math awhile ago, myself, and noticed that.

Now, whichever way it turns out to be with the Edward = Aniz thing, I'd like to see how it works.  However, in terms of theories, I'm leaning toward it being true.  I mean, #1, there's the age thing, and Dan came to the academy when Abel's age was 399.  Coincidence?  I think not.  There's Abel's reaction at Ink's mention of Edward, which has been brought up here.  We know that Amber seems to have about everyone in the comic connected in some way.  Then there's appearance, and I don't just mean that Dan and Lexi have the same kind of tail as Aniz.  Edward and Aniz share the same coloring (except for eyes), the same taste in hair, facial or otherwise... the same face shape for crying out loud!  (Yeah, I'm a bit of an artist myself.  One thing I've been focussing on lately is face shapes and recognition.)  Also, I just noticed that Edward covers his forearms a lot of the time.  Yeah, I don't know how it would be possible.  It seems Aniz would have had to have been reborn, or stripped of his powers and possibly memory, or something.  Call me crazy, but to me, there's just too much evidence pointing toward 'true,' IMO.

...No Apollo Justice references, please.

And I, too, would like to see Dan's expression.  :3

Quote from: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AMI'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!

Actually, a lot of them have three fingers on each hand, namely those that would have hooves if they were just an animal.  For example, take a look at Kria's, DP's, and Regina's cast pages.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
Even if Edward were Aniz, he wasn't the one who enrolled Dan into SAIA, so he didn't break the ban. Aaryanna was the one who submitted the application.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on January 25, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
Quote from: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 12:54:45 AM
I KNEW Kria wasn't all bad!

:cool
She is protecting a child she has known since he was young it's a maternal instinct just like her love for Lorenda

Indeed. She isn't really evil when it comes to people important to her. She is our lovable, destructive demon-mare, who only wants the best for her friends and family... and to see her daughter become a harbinger of discord, chaos, and destruction! MWAHAHAHA >:3

ahem* clears throat*

Regarding that whole "Edward is really Aniz" theory, I don't think that's the case. Go figure, it's just one of those gut feelings.
However, if that is the case and Edward turns out to be Aniz, the events ensuing after should prove interesting. Particularly Dan's expression should Abel really turn out to be his brother :3
I think that would be too much for both of them to bear. And even though Edward looks like Aniz, I have to agree that they are not the same person, because Aniz and Destania hate each other so much that Aniz would rather wait for Abel to turn 400 then to spend 100 years near Destania. And also Alesi would've been a cubi as well.

On a side note, I wonder what would happen if Kria and Abel bumped into each other in the present, would it be ackword or like a family reunion?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 04:37:48 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
I'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!

It's quite varied, actually.  Humans have 5 digits.  Most Beings have 4 digits.  Hooved furres seem to have 3.  Matilda only has 2.

Quote from: Infranscia on January 25, 2010, 01:55:36 AM
It seems Aniz would have had to have been reborn, or stripped of his powers and possibly memory, or something.  Call me crazy, but to me, there's just too much evidence pointing toward 'true,' IMO.

Just forgetting the possible link to Edward for a moment, a rebirth is not out of the question.  Aniz in SAIA seems to have been a reasonable enough guy.  Then he goes through a traumatic experience and starts to crack up.  He spends a number of years obsessively trying to perpetuate his clan - we don't know if Abel was the first.
When Abel is delivered to the Academy, Fa'Lina tells Aniz that he can't have any more children there until Abel reaches 400, but she was willing to drop the ban if he remained at the Academy himself.
While Aniz could in principle raise children outside of the Academy, it would be a problem and his children wouldn't have the benefit of a well-rounded education.
I am thinking that Fa'Lina is doing this - denying him his obsession - to try and force him to cool off and do something else for a few centuries.  That might be enough to eventually cure him.

Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 04:58:48 AM
for Aniz to bring a kid on the day of Abels 400th birthday wouldnt he have to allready have had a kid some years ago?.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 05:03:03 AM
Quote from: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 04:58:48 AM
for Aniz to bring a kid on the day of Abels 400th birthday wouldnt he have to allready have had a kid some years ago?.
They would be in their mid-twenties.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: jo-shadow on January 25, 2010, 06:25:52 AM
400 years (or 300 something as the case may be) is a long enough time that somehow the dispute between Destania and Aniz was resolved, so I don't think that Destania knowing whether Aniz would be Edward would affect if that could be the case.

Although a-lot of good points have been brought up as to how Aniz could be Edward, I think this is a strong point to the contrary:
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 04:21:08 AM
And also Alexsi would've been a cubi as well.
We know (at least as far as we can trust Alexsi's cast page (http://missmab.com/Cast/alexsi.php)) that Edward is the parent that Alexsi and Dan share genetically, and that she is classified as just a "Feline" and not a "Feline Incubus/Succubus" as dan is (http://missmab.com/Cast/dan.php).

We also know from Hybrid Genetics (http://missmab.com/Demo/HG02.php) that if one parent is Cubi, that then the child will Always be Cubi.
=Edit= looking back at hybrid genetics it says that they will be cubi unless the non-cubi parent is more powerful.

This just Leaves these options:
• Alexsi is a cubi and we don't know it. (very unlikely, would contradict the cast page and comic)
• Edward was not actually her genetic father. (unlikely, would contradict the cast page and comic)
• Aniz somehow got demoted from 'cubi to 'being' status between able's story and Alexsi's conception (no evidence that this is even possible)
• Alexsi's Mother (dan's stepmother) was/is a more powerful creature than Aniz as a cubi. That would imply that Alexsi is not a being. (again no evidence to support that)
• Edward and Aniz are not the same person.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 06:34:40 AM
Quote from: jo-shadow on January 25, 2010, 06:25:52 AM
We also know from Hybrid Genetics (http://missmab.com/Demo/HG02.php) that if one parent is Cubi, that then the child will Always be Cubi.

Unfortunately it's not that simple, because it does not say that.  In the last panel, Fluffy says "She'd probably look something like this if she became a 'Cubi".

What it seems to be saying is that if you have a 'Cubi and a Being the result will normally be a 'Cubi.  It also says that the child will look like the Being.

It does not rule out the possibility that the pairing can fail and result in a Being child instead.


EDIT:

Abel's story 12/13 is rather interesting in this regard: Aniz says "I felt it was better to wait 'til I knew for sure he was a 'Cubi..."
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: The_one_who_is_odd on January 25, 2010, 06:48:20 AM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on January 25, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
Particularly Dan's expression should Abel really turn out to be his brother :3
Full Metal Alchemist comes to mind... For people who don't watch it I'll let you in. Al is Ed's younger4 brother and Al is always saying brother...
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 25, 2010, 08:36:45 AM
Quote from: jo-shadow on January 25, 2010, 06:25:52 AM
• Alexsi's Mother (dan's stepmother) was/is a more powerful creature than Aniz as a cubi. That would imply that Alexsi is not a being. (again no evidence to support that)

No evidence either way, but since she was an Amazon, there remains the possibility that she was Were.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 25, 2010, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 04:37:48 AM

While Aniz could in principle raise children outside of the Academy, it would be a problem and his children wouldn't have the benefit of a well-rounded education.
I am thinking that Fa'Lina is doing this - denying him his obsession - to try and force him to cool off and do something else for a few centuries.  That might be enough to eventually cure him.


I doubt an education of beating mothers and your children makes for a good educational plan.

And I doubt slapping someone with a banhammer is enough to cool his temper, let alone cure him. I mean, look at all the crazies that get banned from forums/chat rooms and come back just as much of a douche as prior.

Really, the only thing to 'cure' this SOB is a stab through the heart or a decapitation :b
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: candide on January 25, 2010, 09:50:48 AM
Poor Abel.  :crying

Now I'm sure that he's been out there listening for a while, and heard most of the conversation.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: SquirrelWizard on January 25, 2010, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 09:39:57 AM
Really, the only thing to 'cure' this SOB is a stab through the heart or a decapitation :b

Precision Orbital Bombardment with a giant super laser of your choosing. Its best to glass the surrounding area just to be safe.

As fer the comic, could it be possible that Aniz tried to pull another stunt that he did with Abel? That is, kill off the Edward and assume his place? It could have happened after Alexsi was born, but before Destania arrived.

I mean, Aniz has faked it before, why change M.O.s?

edit: I've done some thinking, and I'm not too sure that Edward is Aniz right now. Barring physical differences (Cubis are shapeshifters, I know) It doesn't really explain the fact as to why the dragons have him in stasis rather than just outright gutting him. And.... I'm pretty certain Destania is up to snuff on cubi abilities, so she is probably aware of anything Aniz could do to fool others, so if he tried to "play Edward" she'd probably gut him. Then again, maybe she sought to end his life over 20 years of marriage.... but I jest, I dont think Edward is Aniz.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 10:11:55 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 09:39:57 AM
I doubt an education of beating mothers and your children makes for a good educational plan.
Quite - this is why he would need SAIA.

Quote
And I doubt slapping someone with a banhammer is enough to cool his temper, let alone cure him. I mean, look at all the crazies that get banned from forums/chat rooms and come back just as much of a douche as prior.

Banned for how long, though?  We're talking about a 375 year ban here.  If you were able to ban someone for 5-15 years, and if the forum was still around (and the person remembered it) it's quite possible that their behaviour would be more reasonable.  At the end of the day we don't really know what would happen to a person with the timescales involved.

QuoteReally, the only thing to 'cure' this SOB is a stab through the heart or a decapitation :b

I'm not sure Fa'Lina thinks that - if politics were the only reason she didn't hand him over to the clans he's offended, or heck, to Destania - why did she want him to come back to the academy?  I think she was hoping to cure him.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: joshofspam on January 25, 2010, 10:22:47 AM
I just hope Abel doesn't do anything foolish like go after Aniz.

With so little training at the Academy, I doubt Abel would stand a chance right now against Aniz.

Abel just might take Destania up on her offer. :kruger
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 25, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: joshofspam on January 25, 2010, 10:22:47 AM
I just hope Abel doesn't do anything foolish like go after Aniz.
Abel just might take Destania up on her offer. :kruger

I'm thinking that might be what this is leading up to, actually.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
I really don't see why Aniz would bother having children if he doesn't give a damn about their well being in general.

if you want more numbers for something like a personal army or a war. It's much more efficient to hire mercenaries or something of that nature. Unless it's something stupid involving politics which we know he has no flair for.

If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.



And while we do not know what timescales can do. Overall trends do tend to happen, for example if you take a piece of rotten fruit and set it on a counter, it will continually rotten and become a disgusting pile of refuse.

If you take a shattered crystal and leave it by itself, it will not mend on it's own or with time.  Since Aniz is a shattered individual mentally and socially, and has the personality of a mad idiot. I can't see that doing anything but continually tread on it's path of breakdown.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.

I think he mostly wanted to revitalize his own clan. Wasn't it nearly extinct? And I don't think sociopaths see any problems with being sociopaths, so, no real reason to stop, er, sociopathing.
:ferret


Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
Overall trends do tend to happen, for example if you take a piece of rotten fruit and set it on a counter, it will continually rotten and become a disgusting pile of refuse.

If you take a shattered crystal and leave it by itself, it will not mend on it's own or with time.

Yeees, but Aniz is neither a fruit nor a crystal, nor did he go off to live in a vacuum. And he was too unpredictable even for Fa'Lina to foresee his actions, so for all that we know, he could well have turned into a male cubi equivalent of Mother Teresa.

Though she was arguably not firing on all cylinders, either, which makes the comparison strangely appropriate.   :U
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Madd the Sane on January 25, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
They made him cry again.  Any guesses on what sparked the tears?  Also, am I the only one to realize just now that Abel only has eight fingers, as per panel 2?
I'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!
It seems to be a Fur trait. I remember reading in Mab's Land that Cheets, being half human, has five fingers on each hand.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.

I think he mostly wanted to revitalize his own clan. Wasn't it nearly extinct? And I don't think sociopaths see any problems with being sociopaths, so, no real reason to stop, er, sociopathing.
:ferret
Yes, he is the last remaining member of his clan. Even though their are other survivors, they decided to switch clans forfiting all titles that go with the name of the clan, so Aniz has to rebuild on his own.

Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
I really don't see why Aniz would bother having children if he doesn't give a damn about their well being in general.
It's not that he doesn't care about Abel's well being, he just lost control of himself.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Lego3400 on January 25, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on January 25, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
They made him cry again.  Any guesses on what sparked the tears?  Also, am I the only one to realize just now that Abel only has eight fingers, as per panel 2?
I'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!
It seems to be a Fur trait. I remember reading in Mab's Land that Cheets, being half human, has five fingers on each hand.

Food for thought. Comic amber only has 4 fingers as well....
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 25, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on January 25, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
They made him cry again.  Any guesses on what sparked the tears?  Also, am I the only one to realize just now that Abel only has eight fingers, as per panel 2?
I'm pretty sure everyone in this comic has only 4 fingers per hand.  It works out well detail-wise for the artwork, plus this has saved Amber about 10 artist-months of her time from not drawing that extra finger over 1400+ comics!
It seems to be a Fur trait. I remember reading in Mab's Land that Cheets, being half human, has five fingers on each hand.

Food for thought. Comic amber only has 4 fingers as well....

That's because she is a Fraggle. Which has been explained once prior.

Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
It's not that he doesn't care about Abel's well being, he just lost control of himself.

Right, because lying to your offspring, then not caring about their other parent. And then never seeing him again and not giving him a choice in what he wants to do with his life. Is a great parental trait right?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
It's not that he doesn't care about Abel's well being, he just lost control of himself.

Right, because lying to your offspring, then not caring about their other parent. And then never seeing him again and not giving him a choice in what he wants to do with his life. Is a great parental trait right?
Well, if Destania wasn't there Aniz would have stayed at SAIA for at least 100 years. And besides he did have a speech all planned out to try to make it seem not so bad, but when it came time to give it, he forgot what to say.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
Right, because lying to your offspring
All parents do this. No exceptions.

Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
then not caring about their other parent
Most divorced parents do this.

Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
And then never seeing him again
I'm not sure that was Aniz's choice.

Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
not giving him a choice in what he wants to do with his life
Most parents tend to plan the life of their offspring to surprising detail before they are old enough to walk or talk.

Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
Is a great parental trait right?
No, it's not. But it is perfectly possible to care for one's offspring and still be a bad parent. The problem was that Aniz cared only for Abel, the rest of the world was just a means to an end. Abuse the world, get a son. Not nice, but it works.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 05:11:18 PM
'Tis true in so many families (including mine :mowsad) and ways.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
I really don't see why Aniz would bother having children if he doesn't give a damn about their well being in general.

if you want more numbers for something like a personal army or a war. It's much more efficient to hire mercenaries or something of that nature. Unless it's something stupid involving politics which we know he has no flair for.

If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.

I've been thinking about this a lot.  I think he simply wants to repopulate his clan to regain whatever feeling/power having a Triwing leader gives 'cubis.  Considering the length of his exile I'd bet he's got at least half a dozen young and uneducated children with him who he plans to foist on Fa'lina all at once as soon as the ban is up.  What I doubt he's considered is that if he succeeds then he's the most likely candidate to be the clan's Triwing, which would leave him the leader of a weak, young, and largely deluded clan.  I say deluded because I'm sure any child who he spends time with will recieve a liberal dose of "our clan is a great and noble one fallen on hard times, but with my help we can rise again."

Especially since I believe he's lacking the knowledge of HOW to ascend properly.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 25, 2010, 09:59:46 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 04:57:11 PM
No, it's not. But it is perfectly possible to care for one's offspring and still be a bad parent. The problem was that Aniz cared only for Abel, the rest of the world was just a means to an end. Abuse the world, get a son. Not nice, but it works.

Sure it's possible to care for your offspring and be a bad parent.

Problem is that he doesn't care about Abel. Abel is the means to whatever he wants.

Quote from: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
I really don't see why Aniz would bother having children if he doesn't give a damn about their well being in general.

if you want more numbers for something like a personal army or a war. It's much more efficient to hire mercenaries or something of that nature. Unless it's something stupid involving politics which we know he has no flair for.

If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.

I've been thinking about this a lot.  I think he simply wants to repopulate his clan to regain whatever feeling/power having a Triwing leader gives 'cubis.  Considering the length of his exile I'd bet he's got at least half a dozen young and uneducated children with him who he plans to foist on Fa'lina all at once as soon as the ban is up.  What I doubt he's considered is that if he succeeds then he's the most likely candidate to be the clan's Triwing, which would leave him the leader of a weak, young, and largely deluded clan.  I say deluded because I'm sure any child who he spends time with will recieve a liberal dose of "our clan is a great and noble one fallen on hard times, but with my help we can rise again."

Especially since I believe he's lacking the knowledge of HOW to ascend properly.


. . . . .

You know what? No. Just no.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 09:59:46 PM
You know what? No. Just no.

No to what, and why?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 11:11:56 PM
Are you sure you really want to know what Drathorin has on his mind.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Jasonrevall on January 25, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 09:59:46 PM

Quote from: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 25, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
I really don't see why Aniz would bother having children if he doesn't give a damn about their well being in general.

if you want more numbers for something like a personal army or a war. It's much more efficient to hire mercenaries or something of that nature. Unless it's something stupid involving politics which we know he has no flair for.

If he just wanted more children fro the sake of having children he could you know, just have kids without the whole sociopath thing going on.

I've been thinking about this a lot.  I think he simply wants to repopulate his clan to regain whatever feeling/power having a Triwing leader gives 'cubis.  Considering the length of his exile I'd bet he's got at least half a dozen young and uneducated children with him who he plans to foist on Fa'lina all at once as soon as the ban is up.  What I doubt he's considered is that if he succeeds then he's the most likely candidate to be the clan's Triwing, which would leave him the leader of a weak, young, and largely deluded clan.  I say deluded because I'm sure any child who he spends time with will recieve a liberal dose of "our clan is a great and noble one fallen on hard times, but with my help we can rise again."

Especially since I believe he's lacking the knowledge of HOW to ascend properly.


. . . . .

You know what? No. Just no.

I think Aniz would make a good supervillain type character. He could become like the shadows. Hunting those who stand in the way of his clan's rise to power. And maybe eventually becoming the leader.

**Edit** ooo or better yet, he has some kind of power like twisted children or some kind of faction and he becomes a temporary ally to our heroes because of the council or dragons pulling something.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 26, 2010, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: Jasonrevall on January 25, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
I think Aniz would make a good supervillain type character. He could become like the shadows. Hunting those who stand in the way of his clan's rise to power. And maybe eventually becoming the leader.

**Edit** ooo or better yet, he has some kind of power like twisted children or some kind of faction and he becomes a temporary ally to our heroes because of the council or dragons pulling something.

Actually that sounds marvelous. It could be a 3 part epic that involves love, betrayal and his life turning upside down. Why don't you take a minute, just sit right there and I'll tell you how Aniz became the prince of a town called Bel-Air.

Edit: It'd be so much more impressive if you'd remembered to snip the excess.
  -- llearch
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 26, 2010, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 04:58:48 AM
for Aniz to bring a kid on the day of Abels 400th birthday wouldnt he have to allready have had a kid some years ago?.

Fa'Lina only banned Aniz from enrolling more kids in SAIA for 376 years, not from having more kids in that time.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Shachza on January 27, 2010, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 26, 2010, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 04:58:48 AM
for Aniz to bring a kid on the day of Abels 400th birthday wouldnt he have to allready have had a kid some years ago?.

Fa'Lina only banned Aniz from enrolling more kids in SAIA for 376 years, not from having more kids in that time.

This is what I think he has done.  He wants his clan back, and everything else be damned.  I doubt he'd wait nearly 400 years just because Fa'lina put an end to his first plan.  And this is why I think he's most likely, though least capable, of pulling off the "new Tri-wing" bit.  He's the one who's going through the motions, but without access to Saia he can't develop the skill.  I'm not saying I expect him to ascend, I'm just saying he's the one trying even if it's futile for him to do so.

Abel would certainly be infinitely more capable, but he doesn't seem to have the inclination, and I doubt the disinclined have any shot of ascending.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Royden on January 27, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
I have a question about a theory regarding the whole Aniz/Edward thing. Really, Aniz hasn't been mentioned in the main comic, and with Ink stating about Able caring for Dan's welfare because he was Edward's son... if he was Aniz trying to keep it secret, then no one would know the importance there.  That seems to me then that Destania would know if he really was Aniz. From what I remember about Edward and Aniz's disguise is both were adventurers.

Despite being a long shot, that leads up to my question. Has anyone considered that Aniz tried the switch, and Edward happened to win that little situation? It could certainly explain why Able is cares about Dan. Plus in some small way, it's just what I expect the most to happen.

This is what happens when I let my brain ferret loose on a topic... :ferret
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 27, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: Royden on January 27, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
I have a question about a theory regarding the whole Aniz/Edward thing. Really, Aniz hasn't been mentioned in the main comic, and with Ink stating about Able caring for Dan's welfare because he was Edward's son... if he was Aniz trying to keep it secret, then no one would know the importance there.

Unless some of the folks at SAIA know what name Aniz had adopted.  For instance, if Destania discovered his location (via Biggs' ancestors?) and her 'mission' was to eradicate him, it's entirely possible she left some clues behind.  Which would probably have caused quite a stir when it later emerged that she'd married him  :P

QuoteThat seems to me then that Destania would know if he really was Aniz. From what I remember about Edward and Aniz's disguise is both were adventurers.

Well, strip 298 is pretty much dead-on what Destania would try to do to Aniz if she caught him.  It's not 100% impossible that they got back together afterwards.  It may have started out as some kind of anti-Dragon pact that became more serious.

QuoteDespite being a long shot, that leads up to my question. Has anyone considered that Aniz tried the switch, and Edward happened to win that little situation? It could certainly explain why Able is cares about Dan. Plus in some small way, it's just what I expect the most to happen.

Yeah, that's one of the main competing theories.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: MT Hazard on January 27, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Regarding clan rebuilding it seems that Destania  isn't in a rush to rebuilt her clan, despite it having only three members at present. Admittedly its easier to do that sort of thing as a man, perhaps the pressure will be one Dan soon enough.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 27, 2010, 09:18:27 PM
Maybe keeping your head down when there's crazed Maniacs out to kill you is the best way from keeping it blown off.


Just an option, but if you don't like it just keep standing still, in the open while this crosshair focuses for just a second more. . .
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2010, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 27, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Regarding clan rebuilding it seems that Destania  isn't in a rush to rebuilt her clan, despite it having only three members at present. Admittedly its easier to do that sort of thing as a man, perhaps the pressure will be one Dan soon enough.

Only three that we know of. There might be more around, just not young ones.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Amber Williams on January 28, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2010, 09:59:56 AM
Only three two that we know of. There might be more around, just not young ones.

Fixed that for ya. :3
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 28, 2010, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 28, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2010, 09:59:56 AM
Only three two that we know of. There might be more around, just not young ones.

Fixed that for ya. :3


I see what you did thar.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 28, 2010, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 28, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Fixed that for ya. :3

[Starts doing mental gymnastics]
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on January 28, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Wait, there's Dan, Destania, and ... Cyra? Or is there another third that we're not supposed to talk about?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: MT Hazard on January 28, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 28, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Wait, there's Dan, Destania, and ... Cyra? Or is there another third that we're not supposed to talk about?

Two clan members plus one clan founder I guess.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on January 28, 2010, 11:54:24 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 28, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Two clan members plus one clan founder I guess.

The alternatives get a bit bizarre.  I will not enumerate them as they are too spaced out, even for me.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AriRashkae on January 28, 2010, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 28, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Wait, there's Dan, Destania, and ... Cyra? Or is there another third that we're not supposed to talk about?


:chrono2  :wakes up: Unless Cyra herself doesn't count because she is the Clan, in a sense. Or Dan hallucinated the whole thing. Given that Abel didn't seem surprised when Dan's mark appeared, I lean more to the former. After all, Dan's mark is Cyra.

Or Amber's just screwin' with our heads again.  :mowdizzy

And just to toss my hat into the Edward=Aniz ring (more 'cuz I'm bored and my mind's wandering than having an actual opinion  ;) ), perhaps Aniz is in something that's more like Witness Protection, Cubi style, that lets him appear as a being. That would neatly explain how the dragons don't pick up on him being Cubi, since that's not exactly something they'd want common knowledge. After all, Cyra's clan abilities let people hide in plain sight, essentially.

:goamber

:goes back to sleep while she can:
:chrono2
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Arcblade on January 28, 2010, 12:17:19 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 28, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 28, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Wait, there's Dan, Destania, and ... Cyra? Or is there another third that we're not supposed to talk about?

Two clan members plus one clan founder I guess.

I hope that's it, because if it isn't, I'm going to have to go hide in a corner, thoroughly confused.  Related question:  have we seen Destania's clan mark?  ...it might not matter, since Cyra makes it seem like she's still part of the clan.  

AirRashkae: per the Edward/Aniz thing, I think it's mentioned in-comic that he's in stasis right now (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php), and that the dragons have him. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_725.php)  Call me crazy, but I think they'd have figured out if he was a Cubi by now if he was.  :P
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AriRashkae on January 28, 2010, 12:37:21 PM
True, but after all, Cyra's abilities were enough to hide him from the Hizell in the first place.  ;)

Eh, it was more a random thought than anything else. Either way, whatever Amber ends up posting is going to be beautifully done, completely sensible (within Furrae's canon, anyway), and frustrate a lot of people. I can't wait for the fallout!  >:3
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Shachza on January 28, 2010, 07:24:17 PM
I need to find out more about the dragon-cubi war, how Cyra's clan plays into it, and why Destania is on the dragon hit-list.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Arcblade on January 28, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Personally, I want to know why Cyra's clan is so small.  Cyra herself seems to be pretty tough, and most likely so is Destania.  Did the Dragons decide to hate on Cyra too? 
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on January 30, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Or Maybe Crya is dead. And is actually a spirit who's able to talk to the land of the living when they are in a near death scenario.


*Theory theory theory theorize OH GOD PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tiger_T on January 31, 2010, 06:06:03 AM
Let's see if I can bend the Aniz=Edward theory a bit further...

So:
1. In the beginning Edward and his wife have Alexi.
2. Something or other happens to Alexi's mom.
3. Edward saves Destania - they marry.
3.a. Aniz gets wind of this and observes them for a few.
4.a. One fine day, as Edward is away (gone to town or something), Aniz disguises as him and gets it on with Destania.
(Aniz has to make Edward believe he's an hour early and then delay him without Edwards knowledge. - It's possible dangnabbit)
4.b. Aniz plausibly distracts Destania to go away somehow for an hour or so.
4.c. Then (same day, minimal delay) Aniz disguises as Destania and gets it on with Edward to complete the circle.
(Aniz may have to act pretty exactly the way Destania did under 4.a., but it is possible, dangnabbit!)
4.d. They'll never know unless Aniz decides to tell anyone. (Maybe later, to hurt/humiliate Destania?)
5. Aniz leaves and waits.
5.a. Since the Cyra clan is stronger, Dan get's the Cyra clan symbol.

:mwaha
Vóila. Dan and Abel are now halfbrothers.

The hardest part for Aniz would probably be to convince Deastania that he's Edward. But if she doesn't suspect anything, I doubt she'd monitor Edward that closely all the time. And Aniz just has to pretend and convince her for a short time.
Dito with Edward.
It IS possible, dangnabbit!


disclaimer:
Don't treat the above to seriously. In fact, take this salt lick stone to go with it.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 31, 2010, 08:48:22 AM
salt lick stone not big enough! ;-]
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on January 31, 2010, 08:53:09 AM
Quote from: Tiger_T on January 31, 2010, 06:06:03 AM
Vóila. Dan and Abel are now halfbrothers.

Also, Aniz is now masquerading as Matilda.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 31, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Eh, if we are doing the "lets make wild theories", I'll throw one out too.

Aniz get kicked out, and starts making babies in an attempt to make new cubi's
Not all babies become Cubi.
One of those non-cubi is Edward Ti'Fiona
Edward then have two children with two different mothers.
The rest you should already know.

But what would that make Dan and Abel ?
Half cousins or some such ?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: inuhanyo on February 01, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 31, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Eh, if we are doing the "lets make wild theories", I'll throw one out too.

Aniz get kicked out, and starts making babies in an attempt to make new cubi's
Not all babies become Cubi.
One of those non-cubi is Edward Ti'Fiona
Edward then have two children with two different mothers.
The rest you should already know.

But what would that make Dan and Abel ?
Half cousins or some such ?

Assuming no intervening generations (i.e. Edward is Aniz 's son), that would make Dan and Abel half-nephew and half-uncle, respectively.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Naldru on February 01, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 31, 2010, 08:48:22 AM
salt lick stone not big enough! ;-]
I fear that somebody has been adding strange chemicals to the salt lick.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on February 02, 2010, 09:48:53 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 01, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
I fear that somebody has been adding strange chemicals to the salt lick.

Someone's been adding traces of forum to that salt lick.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Lego3400 on February 02, 2010, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on January 30, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Or Maybe Crya is dead. And is actually a spirit who's able to talk to the land of the living when they are in a near death scenario.


*Theory theory theory theorize OH GOD PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*

The fact that Dan and Dee have wingheads josses this theory.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Drayco84 on February 02, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
QuoteThe fact that Dan and Dee have wingheads josses this theory.
Wingheads? What the frig is a winghead?

But as for the "Abel and Dan are halfbrothers" theory, we know in Abel's story that Destania KNEW Aniz for a rather long time. So, it's highly possible Destania would see through the disguise. (Plus, he looks an awful lot like Edward. I think... Maybe...)

Quote4.c. Then (same day, minimal delay) Aniz disguises as Destania and gets it on with Edward to complete the circle.
(Aniz may have to act pretty exactly the way Destania did under 4.a., but it is possible, dangnabbit!)
Uhmmmmmm Yeaaaaaaah... That whole "ability to change da plumbing" theory is still hotly debated. (One thing to grow boobs, another to "turn a pole into a hole".) Then again, a number to biological scientists theorize that a (censored) is just an inside-out (censored.)... And now, I should walk away before I corrupt this topic any further... (NOOOOO! MUST... NOT... SUGGEST... THAT... AAAAAAAAUGH!)
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on February 02, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on February 02, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
Wingheads? What the frig is a winghead?

Heads on their tentacle-tips, I think he means.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 02, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on February 02, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
Wingheads? What the frig is a winghead?

Heads on their tentacle-tips, I think he means.

Do they actually have an official name ?
Tentacle heads ?
Wingheads ?
Doo-dads-onna-end-offa-stick ?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on February 02, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 01:58:10 PM
Doo-dads-onna-end-offa-stick ?

Inna bun?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 02:15:25 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on February 02, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 01:58:10 PM
Doo-dads-onna-end-offa-stick ?

Inna bun?

Yooooouuuu betcha! :D
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on February 02, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 01:58:10 PM

Do they actually have an official name ?
Tentacle heads ?
Wingheads ?
Doo-dads-onna-end-offa-stick ?


Thingamiggers
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 02, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on February 02, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
Uhmmmmmm Yeaaaaaaah... That whole "ability to change da plumbing" theory is still hotly debated. (One thing to grow boobs, another to "turn a pole into a hole".) Then again, a number to biological scientists theorize that a (censored) is just an inside-out (censored.)... And now, I should walk away before I corrupt this topic any further... (NOOOOO! MUST... NOT... SUGGEST... THAT... AAAAAAAAUGH!)

In one scifi book I read where an actor was artificially held back from achieving puberty for many years, it was called a "reversible willy". Still, that particular modification was only for appearance (as it is for cubi). It took more extensive surgery (probably including genetic manipulation of the flesh) for people to fully achieve the opposite gender (yes, including reproductive capability).

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on February 02, 2010, 01:58:10 PM
Do they actually have an official name ?
Tentacle heads ?
Wingheads ?
Doo-dads-onna-end-offa-stick ?

Jalapeno on a stick
(http://www.bestcomedyonline.com/site-images/shows/jeff-dunham/jeff-dunham-jose-jalapeno-on-a-stick-puppet.jpeg)
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: candide on February 02, 2010, 06:58:43 PM
Quote from: Sprinkles on January 24, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
400? Currently, according to the cast page, Abel is 399. I feel like we're going to see the repercussions of Fa'lina's punishment on Aniz soon in the main comic; I'm sure Dan's enrollment in SAIA has something to do with it (also, remember what Ink said to Abel in order to rile him up - about Dan being Edward's son).
Ok, the muttonheaded speculation caused by this one comment by Dr. Ink has been driving me crazy.   :yuck

Given that Fa'Lina knew about Destiana, "falling for an adventurer," I think that the name of Destiana's husband ain't all that big of a secret at SAIA.  So, Dr. Ink saying, "...he's Edward Ti'Fiona's son," is, by implication, saying that he's Destiana's son.  But without directly coming out and saying so.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tiger_T on February 02, 2010, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on February 02, 2010, 09:48:53 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 01, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
I fear that somebody has been adding strange chemicals to the salt lick.

Someone's been adding traces of forum to that salt lick.
Just a Whee dose of forumite. After all, what's the worst that could go wrong? :P

As for plumbing...
It's not as if he needs to change all that much. He'd not be trying to get pregnant or something.
Also: Magic and...
:shapeshifters
(minus the moron part) :P
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Lego3400 on February 02, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 02, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on February 02, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
Wingheads? What the frig is a winghead?

Heads on their tentacle-tips, I think he means.

Yes that. Dan isn't knowledgeable enough to make them on his own. The fact that he has the cements the fact that Cyra is still alive.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 03, 2010, 06:03:02 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 02, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Jalapeno on a stick
(http://www.bestcomedyonline.com/site-images/shows/jeff-dunham/jeff-dunham-jose-jalapeno-on-a-stick-puppet.jpeg)

Jose?

(btw, your image link won't work.)
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Sprinkles on February 03, 2010, 07:02:46 AM
Quote from: candide on February 02, 2010, 06:58:43 PMGiven that Fa'Lina knew about Destiana, "falling for an adventurer," I think that the name of Destiana's husband ain't all that big of a secret at SAIA.  So, Dr. Ink saying, "...he's Edward Ti'Fiona's son," is, by implication, saying that he's Destiana's son.  But without directly coming out and saying so.

I don't know; I think that's a little too convoluted. If Ink was referring to the fact that Dan is Destania's son, then I feel like he would have just said so instead of stating it in a round-about way. Besides, it's not like we didn't know who Dan's mother was by the time that comic came around, and Abel's connection to Destania has now been explained, yet it still stands that Ink said "Edward" when he could have said "Destania".
Though I'm not completely ruling out what you said, as it's just as plausible as anything else that's been theorized. P:
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 03, 2010, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 03, 2010, 06:03:02 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 02, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Jalapeno on a stick
(http://www.bestcomedyonline.com/site-images/shows/jeff-dunham/jeff-dunham-jose-jalapeno-on-a-stick-puppet.jpeg)

Jose?

(btw, your image link won't work.)

It did for a few hours after I posted at least.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Anker Steadfast on February 04, 2010, 05:31:00 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 03, 2010, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 03, 2010, 06:03:02 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 02, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Jalapeno on a stick
(http://www.bestcomedyonline.com/site-images/shows/jeff-dunham/jeff-dunham-jose-jalapeno-on-a-stick-puppet.jpeg)

Jose?

(btw, your image link won't work.)

It did for a few hours after I posted at least.
I see it just fine ?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 04, 2010, 06:15:39 AM
huh.

Maybe it was just me, then. Sorry to disturb...
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Scarydragon on February 04, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 02, 2010, 11:06:42 AM
The fact that Dan and Dee have wingheads josses this theory.

But how do we know that Destania hasn't somehow ascended to tri-wing status?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Bjalf on February 04, 2010, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 04, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
But how do we know that Destania hasn't somehow ascended to tri-wing status?

Because then the clan marking(s) would change.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on February 04, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 04, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
But how do we know that Destania hasn't somehow ascended to tri-wing status?

I think that would rule out her being Dan's mother.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Mao on February 04, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 04, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 04, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
But how do we know that Destania hasn't somehow ascended to tri-wing status?

I think that would rule out her being Dan's mother.

Not that I support any of this foolishness, but not if it happened after his birth.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 05:03:21 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on February 04, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 04, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Scarydragon on February 04, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
But how do we know that Destania hasn't somehow ascended to tri-wing status?

I think that would rule out her being Dan's mother.

Not that I support any of this foolishness, but not if it happened after his birth.

I agree with Mao, it could have happened after Dan was born. I know that if someone I cared about, was being held by Dragons, like Edward Ti'Fiona is, I'd want so extra power by side to go kick the crap outta them!  >:3 Reaching third wing status would mean that she has that extra power, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Silverling on February 04, 2010, 05:21:30 PM
Comment on the Aniz appearing being thing...

If this was the case, he could have pulled a Doctor Who (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Chameleon_Arch) and actually turned himself into a being with altered memories and then has some type of "'Cubi DNA Storing" device that he could use when everything is said and done...

That's just my opinion though. d=
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Tapewolf on February 04, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 05:03:21 PM
I agree with Mao, it could have happened after Dan was born. I know that if someone I cared about, was being held by Dragons, like Edward Ti'Fiona is, I'd want so extra power by side to go kick the crap outta them!  >:3 Reaching third wing status would mean that she has that extra power, wouldn't it?

I guess it's possible.  She made it to 7000 and appeared to have all the souls she needed from the pain and terror classes if Amber's remarks are anything to go by.  If she was just below the threshold she might only have needed to eat a few people outside the academy to do it.

I'm not convinced she has, but I can't rule it out.  Of course, it might be part of her plan.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
Yes, we cannot ignore the all mightly plan! >:3

:mwaha *gathers her penguin army and they march towards battle*  :mwaha
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on February 04, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
Even -if- Destania is a tri wing/third wing/Mary Sue wing. . .


I thought due to other people going on about how clan leaders are le tri-wingz. . . Wouldn't destania have to kinda. . . knock off Cyra?


Maybe Crya. . . IS dead then.


You maniacs! You blew it all up! It was a theory all along!
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: bradypodidae on February 04, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
gathers her penguin army and they march towards battle

Prinnies?
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 11:35:36 PM
Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on February 04, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
gathers her penguin army and they march towards battle

Prinnies?

Nope, actually live penguins!!  :mwaha I only use the best during a hostile take over!
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Scarydragon on February 05, 2010, 06:47:43 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on February 04, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
I thought due to other people going on about how clan leaders are le tri-wingz. . . Wouldn't destania have to kinda. . . knock off Cyra?

Now that I think on it, would that make it Clan Destania? I'm not sure how cubi clan nomenclature works exactly. Not that anyone would know of the name change if Dee hid the knowledge of her ascendancy from everyone. Then again, would the clan symbol change too? Confounded theories and their further question raising tendencies.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 05, 2010, 07:20:09 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on February 04, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
I thought due to other people going on about how clan leaders are le tri-wingz. . . Wouldn't destania have to kinda. . . knock off Cyra?

Tri-wing is not clan leader. Clan leader is not tri-wing. The two are separate, albeit usually hand-in-hand.

So... I understand it to be possible to have more than one tri-wing in a clan. It's also possible to have a clan with no tri-wings at all (Aniz/Abel, for example; just because there's only the two of them does not mean it's not a valid clan)

Next wild-arse guess, please.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Keleth on February 05, 2010, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 05, 2010, 07:20:09 AM
Next wild-arse guess, please.

I'm just trying to fit in with all the other retarded theorists!

No love :< Wry all the love gone
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 05, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
It's with the rum.
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2#88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: candide on February 05, 2010, 10:08:29 AM
Quote from: Sprinkles on February 03, 2010, 07:02:46 AM
Quote from: candide on February 02, 2010, 06:58:43 PMGiven that Fa'Lina knew about Destiana, "falling for an adventurer," I think that the name of Destiana's husband ain't all that big of a secret at SAIA.  So, Dr. Ink saying, "...he's Edward Ti'Fiona's son," is, by implication, saying that he's Destiana's son.  But without directly coming out and saying so.

I don't know; I think that's a little too convoluted. If Ink was referring to the fact that Dan is Destania's son, then I feel like he would have just said so instead of stating it in a round-about way.  ...
Well, most of my explanation was just background/basis.  And stating things in a roundabout way strikes me as just the sort of sneaky thing that Dr. Ink would pull.   :mowwink
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: Anker Steadfast on February 06, 2010, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 04, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 04, 2010, 05:03:21 PM
I agree with Mao, it could have happened after Dan was born. I know that if someone I cared about, was being held by Dragons, like Edward Ti'Fiona is, I'd want so extra power by side to go kick the crap outta them!  >:3 Reaching third wing status would mean that she has that extra power, wouldn't it?

I guess it's possible.  She made it to 7000 and appeared to have all the souls she needed from the pain and terror classes if Amber's remarks are anything to go by.  If she was just below the threshold she might only have needed to eat a few people outside the academy to do it.

I'm not convinced she has, but I can't rule it out.  Of course, it might be part of her plan.

A few people ... or a few dragons!
Title: Re: 01/24/10 [AS2 #88] - News of May and Aniz
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 09, 2010, 02:37:17 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 04, 2010, 06:15:39 AM
huh.

Maybe it was just me, then. Sorry to disturb...

When I replied "It did for a few hours after I posted at least." I wasn't seeing it either, but it's back now.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 05, 2010, 07:20:09 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on February 04, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
I thought due to other people going on about how clan leaders are le tri-wingz. . . Wouldn't destania have to kinda. . . knock off Cyra?

Tri-wing is not clan leader. Clan leader is not tri-wing. The two are separate, albeit usually hand-in-hand.

So... I understand it to be possible to have more than one tri-wing in a clan. It's also possible to have a clan with no tri-wings at all (Aniz/Abel, for example; just because there's only the two of them does not mean it's not a valid clan)

You missed clan leader is not clan creator (though barring disasters like dragon-cubi wars, it usually is). In the case of Aniz & Abel, they still (I believe) have the same clan symbol as Aniz had before the war.