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Title: 08/21/09 [DMFA#1033] - Ignorance like Water
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 21, 2009, 03:20:29 AM
I wonder why she's just standing there? And they stole every pair of pants he owned, how evil! :mwaha
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Jairus on August 21, 2009, 03:26:30 AM
Poor Mab. Everything she does to try and help her friends, they get angry over it. Of course, this could all be easily solved if she told them what she was up to, but then again she doesn't seem to want to do that... poor Mab. Oh well!
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Ren Gaulen on August 21, 2009, 03:31:58 AM
Poor Mab, no matter what she does, Jy-Jy is still unhappy. :< Still, that last panel is, for the lack of a better word, beautiful.

..I wonder if it rains when a Fae angsts? :B
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Scarydragon on August 21, 2009, 03:42:34 AM
If Mab doesn't get out of the rain, her tail is going to lose all of its floofiness.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Garsemor on August 21, 2009, 03:57:21 AM
Poor poor Mab, it's all going wrong. The more she tries the wors it seems to get. I don't think even a mow would get her up and happy. :<
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: ooklah on August 21, 2009, 03:59:39 AM
The song that comes to me in that last panel: Dancing Nakid in the Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDs8qKq-Ng)

Poor Mab, can't make everyone happy.  :mowsad
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Howl on August 21, 2009, 04:14:52 AM
I really think Jy-squeak should keep his hair like that.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on August 21, 2009, 04:50:30 AM
~ It won't rain all the time
The sky won't fall forever
And though the night seems long
Your tears won't fall forever ~


Unrelated to my lyrical escapade, take Jy's comment at literal value: Do fae even HAVE bones?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 05:08:41 AM
Queen leaps into mind.

Too much love will kill you, just as sure as none at all...
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Tapewolf on August 21, 2009, 05:27:42 AM
I'm not quite sure what Jyrras is complaining about.  Given a choice between seeing an entire building/district/country being flattened or having your pants stolen, I'd go for the pants.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Tycoon on August 21, 2009, 05:37:12 AM
My first reaction was to mentally scream "DON'T JUMP, MAB!"

...But then I remembered that jumping wouldn't kill her, despite the possibility of her diving headfirst into the rocky shoals beneath that cliff.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 21, 2009, 05:49:51 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2009, 05:27:42 AM
I'm not quite sure what Jyrras is complaining about.  Given a choice between seeing an entire building/district/country being flattened or having your pants stolen, I'd go for the pants.


Of course, Jyrras doesn't seem to have any idea that anyone is after him, and Rose half-reassured him that Albanion probably wouldn't come up with a revenge scheme in his natural lifetime.


And while I do feel sympathy for Mab in some sense, I also half feel like shaking her by the shoulders and telling her what a fool she's being. She's quite obviously spying on Jyrras, or she wouldn't be aware of his reaction to her plot to push Jyrras into starting some sort of weaponization that will probably touch off a mass Creature-Being war, without ever letting the strings appear to lead to her, the planner behind it all.

I suppose it comes with the whole "nigh omnipotence" package, but the thought of simply leaving Jyrras, or any of her friends, to live their own lives probably simply hasn't occurred to her. If she really feels that Jyrras is in enough danger from the creatures (which our one shot in the arc to the Creature Council seems to indicate that there's no consensus to obliterate him), a note could easily be slipped into his eyesight warning him about his danger. In fact, that's *more* likely to yield weapons than this bizarro roundabout method she's using now.

Oh, and unless the phrase "Means the world to me" has some sort of magical compulsive effect on Fae, she also could have just let the bangles lie. After all, we've seen she doesn't really have any inhibitions about running the lives of her friends.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Cogidubnus on August 21, 2009, 06:24:32 AM
Has Amber ever done rain on fur like that? It struck me as something I don't see very often, and I thought was pretty impressive.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 06:35:05 AM
Corgatha, the problem is, we really don't know what she's trying to achieve.

For all we know, she may be attempting to persuade him to _not_ make weapons; to rebalance society without billions upon billions of deaths on both sides; to confuse the Creature Council (as distinct from the Creature-Being Council) into inaction; to make better toasters; or even to mess with Jyrras' head on a grand scale.

We simply do not know.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Wanderer on August 21, 2009, 06:43:32 AM
Jyrras, you were warned. You have only yourself to blame. You should indeed have kept the bangles, but you had to push things.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: foxxfurry on August 21, 2009, 06:53:35 AM
Pour Mab, she seems to have the weight of the world on her shoulders. :mowsad
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Ghostwish on August 21, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 06:35:05 AM
Corgatha, the problem is, we really don't know what she's trying to achieve.

For all we know, she may be attempting to persuade him to _not_ make weapons; to rebalance society without billions upon billions of deaths on both sides; to confuse the Creature Council (as distinct from the Creature-Being Council) into inaction; to make better toasters; or even to mess with Jyrras' head on a grand scale.

We simply do not know.

Too true. From what I have observed, Fae do not perceive events in the same time/space frame that we do, and there's a healthy chance that Mab has foreseen something, perhaps dire, perhaps not.

Regardless, it's easy to see why she won't tell anyone who this plot directly affects. After all, what always happens when you tell someone what is going to happen in the future, if it is something grand in scale?

They always try and change, hence flubbing everything up. Stupid mortals.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Garsemor on August 21, 2009, 08:15:37 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on August 21, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Too true. From what I have observed, Fae do not perceive events in the same time/space frame that we do, and there's a healthy chance that Mab has foreseen something, perhaps dire, perhaps not.

Regardless, it's easy to see why she won't tell anyone who this plot directly affects. After all, what always happens when you tell someone what is going to happen in the future, if it is something grand in scale?

They always try and change, hence flubbing everything up. Stupid mortals.

Actually, if you tell them what will happen in the futur it won't change bacause them telling what will happen has alredy happened so itsted of preventing it they will cause it. Cahnging the futur is impossible bacause the futur is the futur and so it has happened in a different time line. It's the same as if you are trying to change the outcome of a race that has alredy ocured. If you come back in time to help the runner, you want to win, win than he will lose bacause you are simply fulfiling what has happened... Oh my brain.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Noone on August 21, 2009, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 06:35:05 AM
Corgatha, the problem is, we really don't know what she's trying to achieve.

For all we know, she may be attempting to persuade him to _not_ make weapons; to rebalance society without billions upon billions of deaths on both sides; to confuse the Creature Council (as distinct from the Creature-Being Council) into inaction; to make better toasters; or even to mess with Jyrras' head on a grand scale.

We simply do not know.
Well, in comic #847, there is some evidence that she wants to spark a kind of violent revolution. Pip says "I'd feel bad having spent all this time dealing with Dan only for him to end up disliking you more in the end..." Now that could mean a lot of things, but I could certainly see Mab trying to push Jyrras to invent weapons, which would then sparks an all out creature/being war in which a lot of creatures are killed. Especially if it concerns his own clan, I doubt Dan would be too happy if Mab instigated something like that, and he knew about it.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on August 21, 2009, 08:15:37 AM
Actually, if you tell them what will happen in the future it won't change because them telling what will happen has already happened so instead of preventing it they will cause it. Changing the future is impossible because the future is the future and so it has happened in a different time line. It's the same as if you are trying to change the outcome of a race that has already occured. If you come back in time to help the runner, you want to win, win than he will lose because you are simply fulfiling what has happened... Oh my brain.

HTH, HAND. There's a spell check for a reason.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: rhyfe2002 on August 21, 2009, 08:38:38 AM
I probably made too many fae antenna jokes already, but... those things would make awesome underwater flares.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on August 21, 2009, 08:15:37 AM
...trying to change the outcome of a race that has already occured. If you come back in time to help the runner, you want to win, win than he will lose because you are simply fulfiling what has happened... Oh my brain.

HTH, HAND. There's a spell check for a reason.

Isn't occurred spelt with a double r?  >:3
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: joshofspam on August 21, 2009, 09:55:14 AM
 Oh my, that was simply breath taking how you draw mab in that last scene Amber. That's as beautiful as the full power image when she breaks up the fight with Dan and Aaryanna.

I also see you got all of those pants out of the way. I guess having a skit of Jyrras losing pants one after the other would be just too ridicules. Must have some reason to all this madness and its just as funny losing all his pants in one go after all. I certainly enjoyed it. :boogie

But has any one thought it might not be Jyrras that got Mab in such a mood? Their might be other things to the plan that she has that she might be running through her head. We don't know what it is but Jyrras might only be maybe half of the problem or if her plan is fairly complex Jyrras maybe even less then that.

I'm Kind of wondering what she's standing in front of. From the bottom out line it looks like a wall or possibly a window scene looking at a cloudy scene. Could it be a wall of fog that is just above the the water? Is it one of the things that is upsetting her right now?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
I thought Friday was Abel's Story Day?

Ah well this was cute. I feel bad for Mab I've been in similar situations before where you're trying to help a friend but nothing you do goes right.

Heh and Jyrras will have to borrow some of Abel's skirts maybe?  :mowtongue
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Sunblink on August 21, 2009, 10:22:06 AM
That last panel with Mab is so beautiful. Great rain effects. I nth the "poor Mab" notion. :<

Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
I thought Friday was Abel's Story Day?

It normally is, but Amber said she's going to fiddle with the schedule in her rant. It's good to read these things :P
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 10:34:47 AM
Oh yeh the rant. Knew I was forgetting something.......

Hey I just woke up.....okay so it is 3.30pm here. I have a sleep schedule like Jyrrus  :sweatdrop
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: tiggertoo on August 21, 2009, 10:51:31 AM
Awwww, sad Mab in the rain (though of course, a sad Mab may *make* it rain). Somehow, I don't think her problem has much to do with what's happening right at the moment with Jyrras. I have a feeling that the next steps in whatever she's masterminding are going to be tough on her friends - and thus on her.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on August 21, 2009, 08:38:38 AM
Isn't occurred spelt with a double r?  >:3

Not according to the spell checker. I'm inclined to disagree, but as long as the spell checker has optional variants listed, I'm willing to cut some slack.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Fex on August 21, 2009, 12:39:28 PM
They have so much funny-bones that the serious ones don't fit :B
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 21, 2009, 12:52:04 PM
The point I was trying to make, (in response to Boxy and the others) is that I don't really know what factors are relevent to Fae, or to Creatures, or to how Furrae works. I do know though, that if Jyrras's psychology is similar to most humans (and beings seem to be relatively humanlike) that he's going to resent, even if he doesn't know the full cause, of Mab's jerking his life around like a poorly articulated puppet. In a lot of ways, she's acting like the creatures she's allegedly protecting him from. She's more powerful, so she's bending his life to suit what she thinks it should be, and getting away with it. After all, who is going to stop her?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Naldru on August 21, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on August 21, 2009, 08:38:38 AM
Isn't occurred spelt with a double r?  >:3

Not according to the spell checker. I'm inclined to disagree, but as long as the spell checker has optional variants listed, I'm willing to cut some slack.
My spelling checker lists occured as being a typographical error.  Just for curiosity, I googled "occured occurred" and found that some spelling checkers had bugs regarding this issue.  However, the online dictionaries (http://m-w.com (http://m-w.com) and http://encarta.msn.com (http://encarta.msn.com)) and the built-in Apple dictionary use two r's, In addition, http://www.google.com automatically changes occured to occurred in searches.  When Microsoft and Apple agree, I tend to go along with them after first checking for the onset of the Apocalypse.

Relying too much on spelling checkers has resulted in such famous statements as "There are no amethysts in foxholes".
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Alondro on August 21, 2009, 02:32:21 PM
I'm not sure why Mab looks sad.  Didn't she plan this with Albanion?  Is something else going on we don't know anything about yet?

Did she just hear the verdict from the Creature Council?

*Charline reads it*  Death by Charline!  YESSS!!   :mwaha
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: MT Hazard on August 21, 2009, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 10:16:49 AM

Heh and Jyrras will have to borrow some of Abel's skirts maybe?  :mowtongue

Perhaps Lorenda can make him something, she's good at that sort of thing.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 21, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: Naldru on August 21, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
Relying too much on spelling checkers has resulted in such famous statements as "There are no amethysts in foxholes".

My point was that while _I_ know it's incorrect, I'm not going to castigate someone else for relying upon the dictionary and the dictionary being wrong.

On the other hand, having eleven other errors in your post is probably a little excessive, wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Artanis on August 21, 2009, 03:02:44 PM
Amber draws these comics hueg, and shrinks them for the Web, right?

Can we get a big version of the last panel?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 21, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
the only race more assinine and childish than the fae, would have to be the race that created them...namely humans.  

I've always  found it ironic, humans managed to create every race, entire races, and species, and planets, filled with any number of imaginary creatures,  more infinitely powerful than themselves, and yet still continue to believe they are incapable of so many things without even trying.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: MT Hazard on August 21, 2009, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 21, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
the only race more assinine and childish than the fae, would have to be the race that created them...namely humans.  

I've always  found it ironic, humans managed to create every race, entire races, and species, and planets, filled with any number of imaginary creatures,  more infinitely powerful than themselves, and yet still continue to believe they are incapable of so many things without even trying.

"Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot make a worm, and yet he will be making gods by the dozen." - Montaigne (1553-1592)

Very true, mankind envies other animals for there advantages, but we're the ones who took over the planet and are now threatening their existence, not bad for a nearly bald ape with a funny shaped head huh?
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: jimsan on August 21, 2009, 03:23:57 PM
Sad Mab is sad, indeed.  :mowsad
On a lighter note, I always did like the word asinine. It would make for an..... "interesting" looking Pokemon.  :B
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 21, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
the only race more assinine and childish than the fae, would have to be the race that created them...namely humans.  

I've always  found it ironic, humans managed to create every race, entire races, and species, and planets, filled with any number of imaginary creatures,  more infinitely powerful than themselves, and yet still continue to believe they are incapable of so many things without even trying.

I've always quite liked the following quote from the CLAMP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLAMP) manga XXX-Holic (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/) regarding Humans. Its very true

Quote from:  Yûko IchiharaThere are a great many strange things in the world. But no matter how odd, how incredible something may be, if a human does not touch it, if a human does not see it, if a human is not involved with it, it is simply something that happenned. Simply a matter that will fade with time

It echos what Slartibartfast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast) was saying in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy) about the 'Somebody Else's Problem' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem) effect. Where basically if we humans see anything strange or out of the ordinary that we can't deal with we're inclined to just ignore it as if it never existed.

Of course this is a recurring theme in fantasy tales and themes in particular The Last Unicorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Unicorn) or The Flight of Dragons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flight_of_Dragons) and even The Neverending Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverending_Story) where mans need for proof and logic are destroying his ability to dream and imagine.

I find it somewhat sad we've come to this state of being, to be cuckolded by our elders for being silly and told that dreams get us nowhere and we need to be practical. And even if we say to ourselves we'll ignore those people and continue to dream, there's very little niches in todays society for us dreamers. Especially with the current state of affairs.

We just have to be thankful for little refuges from reality that we can find, like here.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Arroyo Milori on August 21, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
It's probably best that faes are not as serious as other races, for obvious reasons.

But since did Mab have 3 pairs of wings? o.o I do believe I haven't seen that before...atleast not that I remember.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
You're right. Most other times and even on the cast page she only has two! Amber must have redesigned her or something
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Tapewolf on August 21, 2009, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
You're right. Most other times and even on the cast page she only has two! Amber must have redesigned her or something

From the cast page:
Quirks/Fun Facts: Mab's wings change in size/number/shape/colour according to her mood.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 05:16:25 PM
Crap I hate it when I miss stuff because then when it gets pointed out to me I feel like a major idiot *sigh*  :<

Note to self: Read slower.......check EVERYTHING.........THEN post
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Jasonrevall on August 21, 2009, 05:55:55 PM
You know what is sad to me is that this may not be the first or the last time the deaths of Mab's linear friends were imminent.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Lucheek on August 21, 2009, 08:38:47 PM
PART DUEX! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php)
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: bradypodidae on August 21, 2009, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on August 21, 2009, 08:38:47 PM
PART DUEX! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_824.php)

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_833.php
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Lego3400 on August 21, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
When she gets really angry she gets like 6 or 7 big ass ones that cover her whole back. Makes her look rather imposing.
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: tiggertoo on August 21, 2009, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Lego3400 on August 21, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
When she gets really angry she gets like 6 or 7 big ass ones that cover her whole back. Makes her look rather imposing.

Indeed -- like here: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php -- when Mab gets ticked, she's kinda in a class of her own. Due to their usual relatively low key and/or somewhat random or goofy personas, I think most people that are around Fae tend to forget that Fae are really creatures with no real limits to what they can do except for what they impose upon themselves. (Like when Mab's parents had an argument over deciding on an appetizer: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_544.php )
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: Alondro on August 22, 2009, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 21, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
the only race more assinine and childish than the fae, would have to be the race that created them...namely humans.  

I've always  found it ironic, humans managed to create every race, entire races, and species, and planets, filled with any number of imaginary creatures,  more infinitely powerful than themselves, and yet still continue to believe they are incapable of so many things without even trying.

I've always quite liked the following quote from the CLAMP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLAMP) manga XXX-Holic (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/) regarding Humans. Its very true

Quote from:  Yûko IchiharaThere are a great many strange things in the world. But no matter how odd, how incredible something may be, if a human does not touch it, if a human does not see it, if a human is not involved with it, it is simply something that happenned. Simply a matter that will fade with time

I find it somewhat sad we've come to this state of being, to be cuckolded by our elders for being silly and told that dreams get us nowhere and we need to be practical. And even if we say to ourselves we'll ignore those people and continue to dream, there's very little niches in todays society for us dreamers. Especially with the current state of affairs.

We just have to be thankful for little refuges from reality that we can find, like here.

Well, I think you've misinterpreted Yuko's statement a bit.  It's rather a double meaning.  There are some aspects of what you've mentioned in there, but there is also the additional meaning; something unique to human nature: constancy.  The other races in fantasy have memories of things which never seem to affect their future, they don't often give themselves to reflection and remembrance the way humans do.  We constantly bring things up, keeping them alive in our social networks and collective memories.  For all those other living things, time makes what has happened disappear.  They may possess all the memories of it, but they don't think about it.

Yuuko's statements were often like that, they frequently held many meanings.  CLAMP writes very well, which is why I like it. :3
Title: Re: 08/21/09[DMFA # 1033] Ignorance like Water
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on August 24, 2009, 06:45:32 PM
Quote from: Succubus_1982 on August 21, 2009, 04:29:49 PM
Of course this is a recurring theme in fantasy tales and themes in particular The Last Unicorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Unicorn) or The Flight of Dragons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flight_of_Dragons) and even The Neverending Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverending_Story) where mans need for proof and logic are destroying his ability to dream and imagine.

It's true you should never give up your ability to imagine and have phantasies because you're supposed to be "practical" - Supertramp put this one very nicely, I think ;). But practicality is something completely different than logic or "need for proof".

I'm sorry if this will sound like a rant (so feel free to skip), but I've heard too many people try to preach me the texbook Straw Vulcan (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawVulcan) arguments about logical reasoning destroying the power of dreams and leading to a cold, gray world where we all are just human machines, so this is kinda a pet peeve of mine.
Come on! Half of just that abillity to imagine would be impossible if we hadn't a foundation of "facts" we could build our imaginations on. How could you breathe life into characters like Mab, Dan or Jyrras if you weren't able to reason about what those people would or would not do?

I think the big problem is that many people mistake logic for realism. But in fact those are two completely different things. Fairy tales and phantasy stories are seldomly realistic - meaning, they seldomly obey the same rules and "laws of nature" that run our world. And why should they? If I want realism, I'll watch Discovery Channel. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't try to obey the rules they made up for themself, even if those rules include dragons, the power of true love and green glowy antennae.
If you obey the rules you made up yourself, this can actually help your imagination, because you can get a feeling how those uncountable imaginary creatures would act and behave in their world.

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Okay, if you managed to read until here, you deserve a cookie. So now for something completely different.
Way ago when Albanion cursed Jyrras (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_836.php) in the first place, he mentioned Jyrras would be so upset when the curse takes effect. So now the curse is gone, but do we know what it actually did?
Or should the curse be that Jyrras is incapable of wearing pants?  :U