I guess that makes it official yes?
Wow. I did not see that coming. I'm going to go through the archive and see if any of the shadows at the meeting look like him. (I have no clue on how to spell his name)
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on August 08, 2009, 12:26:39 AM
Wow. I did not see that coming. I'm going to go through the archive and see if any of the shadows at the meeting look like him. (I have no clue on how to spell his name)
Look at reply 40 (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,3035.30.html)
The shadow matches up with the Fae we saw. I think he's also quoting himself here..
Her's a fun fact. If the council is devides on almost everithing, as it seems, why does it still exist?
Quote from: Garsemor on August 08, 2009, 01:07:10 AM
Her's a fun fact. If the council is devides on almost everithing, as it seems, why does it still exist?
Because the council was divided over whether or not they should disband the council. :U
they are not the brightest bulbs in the box.
Yup, that confirms it. The fae shadow in this comic (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php) was Albanion.
How can you say that when it's obvious they don't even like bulbs.
Well, that should end the debate once and for all. Albanion is on the council, and is arguably one of Jy's "allies." From the standpoint of how far one can consider a Fae to be an ally, and as far as Jy fits into Mab's plan and Albanion's place in it.
Really, if the Council was going to be smart about this, they would want to get Jyrras on their side. I mean, I know I'm quoting something I've written down/borrowed here, and it doesn't fit perfectly, but "better the monster you have leashed than the one you don't:" Jyrras is more dangerous as their enemy, and if he was an ally then they really would have nothing to fear from him. Well, at least not too much. Also, you'd think that any smart group would know to keep things lit nice and brightly to prevent them breaking their toes or smashing their knees into things while stumbling about in the dark.
Currently, the council's indecisiveness seems to be on Jy's side: so long as they can't agree on any course to take regarding him, he's more or less safe from the council. Outside of one of them acting on their own, of course. And if Jyrras demonstrated himself to be dangerous/useful, that could be the thing that gets them to decide on a course of action... I take it back. Jy's in BIG trouble right now, and is basically balanced on a fence that he barely knows exists. This is getting really good...
Albanion isn't one I'd want as a ally. He is the sole reason there is a Restraining Order on the Entire Fae Race by Girl Scouts.
Quote from: OminousShadow on August 08, 2009, 02:13:09 AM
Albanion isn't one I'd want as a ally. He is the sole reason there is a Restraining Order on the Entire Fae Race by Girl Scouts.
Personally, I'd rather be on his side than the opposite side. I mean, that would be almost impossible (given his hair trigger berserk button, though in at least one case this was probably just him waiting for the ideal moment to curse Jy in such a way that everyone would write it off as just Albanion doing his thing again), and the fact that he is a Fae right off the bat makes him dangerous, but at the end of the day, I'd feel safer knowing that I was in his graces rather than outside of them.
Remember also for many creatures being strong, dangerous, and/or deadly are all considered positive, admirable qualities that would make Jyrras worthy in their eyes. If he's weak, he's not really worthy of notice. Either way, creatures with this outlook wouldn't really understand what all the fuss was about.
Ahh Al I see your you should invest those power saving lightbulbs,your house bill will thank you :3
Quote from: Zedd on August 08, 2009, 04:12:10 AM
Ahh Al I see your you should invest those power saving lightbulbs,your house bill will thank you :3
If they ever drag Jy there, the first thing he'll do is fit their evil inner sanctum with compact fluorescent bulbs or LED lighting, and then show them projections of how much energy and money they'll save over time. Then, he'll rebuild the heating and cooling systems so that the lair is always comfortable, and get the VCR up and running. Eventually, he'll get them hooked on video games and the convenience of the microwave, and at that point he refuses to program anything unless they submit to his control. And that's how Jyrras Gianni will take over the Creature Council and become the most powerful being in the world.
"Hey, mom! Guess what I did today!"
He turns off a light bulb that he conquers up and it's dark for her as well. Does Mab have to allow him to affect her view of the world? If that's the case, would that be considered rude, like stepping on peoples toes, causing your magic to affect someone else?
Or whatever magic is done just effects everyone, and they accept that? They are fae, I'm sure they could nullify each other...
Yes he should be worried. After all, Jyrras' technology could potentially pierce the heavens
You'd think with all their other powers, Fae would be able to see in the dark easily........
Who says they can't see in the dark? Just because you can realize that it's dark doesn't mean you can't see.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 08, 2009, 07:01:38 AM
You'd think with all their other powers, Fae would be able to see in the dark easily........
Don't forget the Roger Rabbit Defence. When Mab did it, it was funny. :mowtongue
(Come to think of it, wouldn't this apply to a lot of things the Fae do?)
Anyone watch M*A*S*H? If so, then, do you remember the episode where Hawkeye was going nutso because it had been over a year and the only thing they had done was argue about the shape of the table that North Korea, South Korea, and the USA would sit at to make peace negotiations? And that they couldn't even do anything else on the list because they were arguing on what should be on the top of the list?
The whole lighting-thing kinda reminds me of that. |D
Quote from: Mrs. Williams wrote in RANT O' UPDATE on Saturday, August 8, 2009
Oh buffer. You mythical beast of legend. One day I hope to unlock your riddle and learn the secret myself.
The secret:
Either, have no life, which would keep interfering :dotdotdot
Or, have a wife, who would get all the important stuff done. :nod
With regards,
Ted
I think this would be a much more appropriate time for Mab's antennae to "flame on" again. :D
I'm still suprised some people only noticed the fact that he was on the council with today's strip.
I lawled hard.
Quote from: Ted Schiller on August 08, 2009, 10:59:50 AM
Quote from: Mrs. Williams wrote in RANT O' UPDATE on Saturday, August 8, 2009
Oh buffer. You mythical beast of legend. One day I hope to unlock your riddle and learn the secret myself.
The secret:
Either, have no life, which would keep interfering :dotdotdot
Or, have a wife, who would get all the important stuff done. :nod
With regards,
Ted
But... but... she is the wife.
Needs new plan!
Quote from: Jairus on August 08, 2009, 02:07:10 AMAlso, you'd think that any smart group would know to keep things lit nice and brightly to prevent them breaking their toes or smashing their knees into things while stumbling about in the dark.
...Whoever said the Creature Council was a
smart group?
Albanion being on the Councils has been a confirmed fact since page 837 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_837.php).
And only one of the shadowy shapes on the Creature Council looked like a Fae.
Albanion being on the Creature Council was already confirmed before he showed up in the comic. Does anybody read the Demonology pages?
They need to get some kind of creature that glows in the dark on the Creature Counsel. Lighting Problem Solved.
Quote from: OminousShadow on August 08, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
They need to get some kind of creature that glows in the dark on the Creature Counsel. Lighting Problem Solved.
They
did (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php). She didn't like that :P
I just realize Al must take very good care of his teeth is they glow like that in the dark.
Fae! Known for their magic and their oral hygeine!
Quote from: Lucheek on August 08, 2009, 12:15:43 PM
Albanion being on the Creature Council was already confirmed before he showed up in the comic. Does anybody read the Demonology pages?
Lucheek knows why I've been laughing so hard from reading the forums. "OMG HE IZ ON COUNCUL!? NEVER KNEW!!11!"
Read, people! Lots of juicy information in other places besides the archives!
Seriously though, why the heck is the creature council so uppity about Jy-Jy anyway?? Has he been preforming nuclear weapons tests or something?
Quote from: Ghostwish on August 08, 2009, 02:25:24 PMSeriously though, why the heck is the creature council so uppity about Jy-Jy anyway?? Has he been preforming nuclear weapons tests or something?
No, although nuclear weapons are probably the kind of thing they're afraid of long-term. It's the simple fact that Jyrras, prodigy that he is, can create such advanced technology without the use of magic. Even though his gadgets (that they know of) aren't dangerous, powerful weaponry in the hands of Beings is just around the corner, as far as they're concerned.
Quote from: Caswin on August 08, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ghostwish on August 08, 2009, 02:25:24 PMSeriously though, why the heck is the creature council so uppity about Jy-Jy anyway?? Has he been preforming nuclear weapons tests or something?
No, although nuclear weapons are probably the kind of thing they're afraid of long-term. It's the simple fact that Jyrras, prodigy that he is, can create such advanced technology without the use of magic. Even though his gadgets (that they know of) aren't dangerous, powerful weaponry in the hands of Beings is just around the corner, as far as they're concerned.
Hrm, good point. Seems he's also a bit of a business tycoon as well. Maybe they're worried on both militaristic and financial grounds?
Quote from: Ghostwish on August 08, 2009, 03:42:11 PM
Hrm, good point. Seems he's also a bit of a business tycoon as well. Maybe they're worried on both militaristic and financial grounds as well?
That hasn't come up yet, but I do know I would love to see it. The last strip had me wondering if the Creature Council's "pressure" might lead to a less direct conflict between the Council and JyCorp, but given Amber's policy on economics and politics (that is, that they invariably make for boring stories), I don't think that's going to happen.
That said, in-story, I can see why they would be so focused on the military angle. At a guess, the overriding Creature outlook of "Might makes right" mixed with a heavy dose of "Everyone else thinks and operates that way, too" roughly translates to, "With his resources and technology, he's going to mass-produce weapons and place them in the hands of Beings to level the playing field and start a revolution against us the first chance he gets!"
At least, some of them probably think that way, anyway. Amateur psychoanalysis is fun.
I think Jycorp mechs, powersuits, guns, body armor, and (possibly) energy shields are a far greater threat to the Creatures than nukes, which are too big to be used.
But I just thought of an alternative... They fear Jyrras not because he can kick Creature ass, but because his accidental creation of sentient life may force them to give the created species and creatures a role on the council. Its not that he's a threat to them, its just that they don't want to have to get a bigger table and more fancy chairs. Ironically, Jyrras may just be "too big" to be controlled by the "Life Creation act". What are they gonna due to him? Argue with an impossibly oversized, overpowered Gryph-Mech and "Mining and Farming equipment"?
Jyrras could come up with something Non-Lethal but can basically render creatures harmless. A Magic Suppression Field Device
You know, maybe Jyrras's 'last' invention isn't even a weapon, or some sort of device that suppresses magic or whatever. Maybe, just maybe, since Jyrras is somewhat of a mad scientist, his next invention explodes or something, and either one or more of his friends and/or Jyrras himself ends up with superhero-type powers because of it, rendering any threat from the Creature Council null.
O think the council is worried because Jy is making items with NO magic in them. Think about it; a weapon that is not affected by magic is basically like using a minigun against cavemen armed with sticks and stones; They will not know how to react!
If he has a pulse laser that can make holes in people and an anti-magic bubble, he could be very dangerous to them.
i love how folks think magic can be nullified.
how i see it is, that when you boil it all down, Magic is energy, ergo some resemblance of the physical laws do apply. I.e: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, Merely transferred and transformed.
Magic can affect Technology, one just has to be creative, 'tis all, and remember that physical laws do govern both in their own peculiar ways.
Quote from: Turnsky on August 09, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
i love how folks think magic can be nullified.
how i see it is, that when you boil it all down, Magic is energy, ergo some resemblance of the physical laws do apply. I.e: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, Merely transferred and transformed.
IIRC cyanide kills by blocking the uptake of oxygen. It doesn't destroy the oxygen.
Something that prevents Creatures from being able to shapeshift or cast spells wouldn't necessarily take a huge amount of magic to do so, though I somehow doubt it could be done from a purely technological standpoint.
I still want to know why Biggs is on the Council......
Quote from: Turnsky on August 09, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
i love how folks think magic can be nullified.
how i see it is, that when you boil it all down, Magic is energy, ergo some resemblance of the physical laws do apply. I.e: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, Merely transferred and transformed.
Magic can affect Technology, one just has to be creative, 'tis all, and remember that physical laws do govern both in their own peculiar ways.
Magic is whatever the hell the author wants it to be, thank you very much. It does not, in fact, have to obey or even adhere to what we define as physical laws. It's half the reason we call it... you know...
magic.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on August 09, 2009, 08:25:44 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on August 09, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
i love how folks think magic can be nullified.
how i see it is, that when you boil it all down, Magic is energy, ergo some resemblance of the physical laws do apply. I.e: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, Merely transferred and transformed.
Magic can affect Technology, one just has to be creative, 'tis all, and remember that physical laws do govern both in their own peculiar ways.
Magic is whatever the hell the author wants it to be, thank you very much. It does not, in fact, have to obey or even adhere to what we define as physical laws. It's half the reason we call it... you know... magic.
True enough.
Quote from: Turnsky on August 09, 2009, 08:38:51 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on August 09, 2009, 08:25:44 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on August 09, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
i love how folks think magic can be nullified.
how i see it is, that when you boil it all down, Magic is energy, ergo some resemblance of the physical laws do apply. I.e: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, Merely transferred and transformed.
Magic can affect Technology, one just has to be creative, 'tis all, and remember that physical laws do govern both in their own peculiar ways.
Magic is whatever the hell the author wants it to be, thank you very much. It does not, in fact, have to obey or even adhere to what we define as physical laws. It's half the reason we call it... you know... magic.
True enough.
If magic was suppressed enough it would been FF8 all over again, magic damping force filed ring any bells?
Quote from: OminousShadow on August 08, 2009, 10:46:24 PM
Jyrras could come up with something Non-Lethal but can basically render creatures harmless. A Magic Suppression Field Device
Who do you think he is? Doctor Insano? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fhGS0tAcQg)
Magic CAN be nullified. It doesn't work on Weres due to an aniti-magic feild they have.
*Charline personally votes for making Jyrras an h'orderve* >:9
Quote from: Alondro on August 09, 2009, 09:44:04 PM
*Charline personally votes for making Jyrras an h'orderve* >:9
hors d'oeuvre ? Wouldn't you find a closer mark in Kria, making it a horse d'oeuvre?
"Demonology" papers, nuttin.
Seems like many of us missed this strip:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_837.php
We must have short memories, to have forgotten that the bangles were an Albanion/Mab conspiracy to hang a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on Jyrras for his own protection.
I think the real question is why Mab is considering backing out now, just because Jyrrras (who, let us recall, is easily spooked, even by things like his own shadow) is getting uneasy about the bangles.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 10, 2009, 05:29:18 PM
I think the real question is why Mab is considering backing out now, just because Jyrrras (who, let us recall, is easily spooked, even by things like his own shadow) is getting uneasy about the bangles.
The reason she's backing out is that Jyjy asked nicely.
Of course, this spawns the question - why is that sufficient to get her to change her plans?
Because Mab is just too nice for her own good. :3