Ah, Lorenda is back. And Kria doesn't know about the old connection between Regina and Dan.
And we are officially out of the drama and back to the comedy. Yay Amber!
Oh, this promises to be interesting. I wonder what Kria and Lorenda's reactions will be when they hear this story.
EDIT: Also, their house has a spiral staircase. So very cool. What? I like spiral staircases.
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 01:45:35 AM
And we are officially out of the drama and back to the comedy. Yay Amber!
Oh, this promises to be interesting. I wonder what Kria and Lorenda's reactions will be when they hear this story.
EDIT: Also, their house has a spiral staircase. So very cool. What? I like spiral staircases.
I wonder how many photos Dan will see before he finally just says "Alright, let's just assume I want to kill your entire family. This is taking too long." Oooooh, maybe he'll see a picture of Kria teaching way back when, and Abel will be in the background or something? O.o
There's gotta be a limit to how many enemies Dan has though, right? Maybe? :<
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 01:45:35 AM
And we are officially out of the drama and back to the comedy. Yay Amber!
Oh, this promises to be interesting. I wonder what Kria and Lorenda's reactions will be when they hear this story.
EDIT: Also, their house has a spiral staircase. So very cool. What? I like spiral staircases.
You didn't notice it when Regina ran down it (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php)?
One would expect Kria to be somewhat familiar with the incident, just ignorant of the fact that it involved Dan.
Quote from: modelincard on February 22, 2009, 01:52:16 AM
There's gotta be a limit to how many enemies Dan has though, right? Maybe? :<
Yes, he was only an adventurer until he was 24. Though he
does have enemies he doesn't know about.
BAH Amber you lie like a rug! I remember when you said you used a tablet!
P.S. When do those wallpapers come out?
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 22, 2009, 01:49:34 AM
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 01:45:35 AM
And we are officially out of the drama and back to the comedy. Yay Amber!
Oh, this promises to be interesting. I wonder what Kria and Lorenda's reactions will be when they hear this story.
EDIT: Also, their house has a spiral staircase. So very cool. What? I like spiral staircases.
I wonder how many photos Dan will see before he finally just says "Alright, let's just assume I want to kill your entire family. This is taking too long." Oooooh, maybe he'll see a picture of Kria teaching way back when, and Abel will be in the background or something? O.o
WERE there photos back then? One major difference I see with DMFA and Abel's Story is that technology appears to be a lot less advanced in the latter (which makes sense since it's 300-odd years earlier).
Anyway, sounds like Kria is jealous.... :giggle
Kria seems really down, after turning her advances towards him Dan goes off chasing a younger demon. Poor old Kria must be heart broken.
And I'm fairly sure now- Lorenda s horns are getting more and more demon like, just check them out in the last panel!
Well, she has been of age for a while now. It only makes sense the traits would become more prominent.
She may have even just had them sharpened, you never know.
When Kria and Lorenda finally catch up with Dan, maybe we'll get some flashback.
I wonder if they'll notice the odd character of the damage along they way (neither Dan nor Regina had weapons). Kria: Dear, is there anything I should know about your friend?
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.
Since she's been living at Jyrras' until just recently, I think they may have had that conversation. Since she's a creature too, I don't think Jyrras would be very hesitant to mention it.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 22, 2009, 03:44:08 AM
Since she's been living at Jyrras' until just recently, I think they may have had that conversation. Since she's a creature too, I don't think Jyrras would be very hesitant to mention it.
Except for the fact that his best friend has been "living in denial", as Mab put it. It's obvious that Dan would not appreciate spreading the knowledge of his Cubi nature around. I think Jyrras would respect that, but it's possible that he slipped up and said more than he should have.
8) It seems that Kria and Lorenda do not have any knowledge of Dan and Regina's past meetings. It may be a good time for our favorite Warp-Aci to get Abel in ...
Why does everyone keep wanting Abel to show up. Of all the people that I'd want to show up I'd want someone we haven't seen in a while and could have a motive for being there. (Mab being plot convenient agian?
I bet he does not hate anyone from the inlaw family :U
I like the understatement; "a bit of a grudge" is just so classy.
I also like how Lorenda presumes Dan is suicidal, too. Or, at least, that's how I read the death-wish bit...
Amber does all those awesome digital colours with a mouse? :dface
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 22, 2009, 02:10:24 AM
WERE there photos back then? One major difference I see with DMFA and Abel's Story is that technology appears to be a lot less advanced in the latter (which makes sense since it's 300-odd years earlier).
There were cute sepia-toned flashbacks, which wouldn't make sense outside the context of early photographic technology. Besides, they had magic back then. You can create excellent reproductions if a wizard did it. :3
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 22, 2009, 04:20:14 AM
Why does everyone keep wanting Abel to show up. Of all the people that I'd want to show up I'd want someone we haven't seen in a while and could have a motive for being there. (Mab being plot convenient agian?
Abel and Kria have history. To say nothing of Abel and Devin. We're all waiting for the tearful reunion.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 05:44:48 AM
I like the understatement; "a bit of a grudge" is just so classy.
I also like how Lorenda presumes Dan is suicidal, too. Or, at least, that's how I read the death-wish bit...
Sounds more like "wants them dead", not "wants to die against them".
Same spiral staircase! Next comic they can follow the scratches on the pillars, then the banging on the door. ^_^
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 06:19:51 AM
Sounds more like "wants them dead", not "wants to die against them".
Yeah, sure. Except one doesn't have a death wish for someone else. One has a vendetta, or a crusade, or a lynching. A "death wish" is usually used to refer to self-immolation, only.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 06:19:51 AM
Same spiral staircase! Next comic they can follow the scratches on the pillars, then the banging on the door. ^_^
That'll be his head...
(incidentally, this keyboard is infuriating me. The e key only works if you hammer it good and hard... unlike every other key on the damn thing...)
Quote from: Kipiru on February 22, 2009, 02:20:16 AM
Kria seems really down, after turning her advances towards him Dan goes off chasing a younger demon. Poor old Kria must be heart broken.
By that reasoning, Dan had one
hell of a crush on Dark Pegasus. No, I think it's more the lack of notoriety that she's despondent over.
Quote from: Lego3400 on February 22, 2009, 04:20:14 AM
Why does everyone keep wanting Abel to show up. Of all the people that I'd want to show up I'd want someone we haven't seen in a while and could have a motive for being there.
Are you one of the folk who doesn't read
Abel's Story?
Quote from: modelincard on February 22, 2009, 01:52:16 AM
There's gotta be a limit to how many enemies Dan has though, right? Maybe? :<
Like the Lord High Executioner in The Mikado, I suspect that Dan has a little list, but the title is a little different than the one on Mab's list (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_254.php). There may not be many names on the list that haven't been crossed off.
With regard to the term "death wish", I believe that it may be a reference to the film with Charles Bronson. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071402/)
I love it! "Mom...What did you do now?!"
kria seems soo sad.... i feel like her thoughts are something like "why doesn't he want to try and kill me?" or, based on previous comics, possibly replace kill with another activity...
Kria practices good safety by holding the railing. She's such a good role model. :D
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_69.php)
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
She already has, they just doesn't know it. See strip 229.
I'm amazed too, Kria. I'm amazed too.
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina. But if Abel did enter the scene, we could get some nice drama between him and Devin. But why, why would anyone want Mab there? She's just a nuisance.
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina
die messily!"
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
I know. It's the weirdest thing. I didn't even like her to begin with, and I don't want her to die. She's too fun to die quite yet.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
Of course, you know that if Regina dies messily, we will go back to 'We want to see Regina!", only to go back once she makes another appearance. :)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
What can I say? I liked her because I thought she might give us some blood, being a psychopath. And now her blood might just spill. That's fine enough for me.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
She already has, they just doesn't know it. See strip 229 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_229.php).
Has anybody considered the possibility that their guide might have been the monster carrying out the multiple murders (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_229.php).
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
I'm not really wanting Abel to pop in, mostly because it might detract from Dan killing Regina.
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
What can I say? I liked her because I thought she might give us some blood, being a psychopath. And now her blood might just spill. That's fine enough for me.
I was expecting drama, and I haven't been disappointed. I didn't expect them to immediately go to straight out attacking though, and I hadn't expected Regina to be afraid to face Dan without a weapon. I didn't believe she knew he was a Cubi, so that was no surprise. I have been enjoying the inversion of the monster-chases-damsel tropes though.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:59:28 PM
I was expecting drama, and I haven't been disappointed. I didn't expect them to immediately go to straight out attacking though, and I hadn't expected Regina to be afraid to face Dan without a weapon. I didn't believe she knew he was a Cubi, so that was no surprise. I have been enjoying the inversion of the monster-chases-damsel tropes though.
While Regina is a monster, it's really annoying that people keep mistaking Dan for a woman... oh! I get it. You mean that the damsel is the real monster and the "monster" chasing her is the hero. Okay, my mistake.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 01:34:53 AM
Ah, Lorenda is back. And Kria doesn't know about the old connection between Regina and Dan.
technically we don't even know the connections between dan and regina
We've got a good idea. She murdered twelve beings by manipulating his trust and she almost killed Wildy somehow as well. She also vowed to destroy him and all he loves. Oh, and she just hit him with a tray full of wine glasses. But he is taking it all rather personally. Sheesh.
i am most impressed. comedy and suspense well not so much suspense but enough to arouse my couriosity Yea amber! way to go
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
I am officially awestruck at how quickly we've gone from "We want to see Regina!" to "We want to see Regina die messily!"
Perhaps you just didn't give them a chance to complete the sentence, last time around? ;-]
Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_69.php)
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_69.php)
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?
As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother. Abel was part of her community, and thus
not prey. I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.
As far as Dan knows, Kria hasn't done anything to put herself on his Hit List. Regina put herself on that list six years ago, with a bullet. DP got on the list even earlier. I expect the list is pretty short, by now.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on February 22, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on February 22, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
I'm sure if Kria tried a little harder she could get on Dan's bad side. A few more mass-murdering sprees like the one we saw in Abel's Story, part 1, would probably do it. Of course, the whole politics thing she's enmeshed in might not work so well with that.
Please note that Kria didn't kill anyone on that spree. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_69.php)
And still quite young. She's only 19 years older than Abel, so that puts her in her late thirties back then?
We don't
know that Kria did or didn't kill anyone in that incident, but it can be assumed from the following dialog that she did but stopped when she noticed Abel. I get the impression that she was on something like a school field trip
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother. Abel was part of her community, and thus not prey. I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.
Before his headwings popped, she might have suspected his 'cubi heritage. After, I'm sure she knew, since as far as we've seen only cubi have them.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 22, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
We don't know that Kria did or didn't kill anyone in that incident, but it can be assumed from the following dialog that she did but stopped when she noticed Abel. I get the impression that she was on something like a school field trip
"... after failing to take out a single target this entire venture." Sounds like Kria didn't kill anyone that time. We don't know who Kria was speaking with, the default assumption is her brother Aliph, simply because we don't know of any other candidates. For her, it was something of a training mission. Combat training.
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Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
As Kria herself pointed out in that sequence, she knew Able, had been his teacher, had shared tea with his mother. Abel was part of her community, and thus not prey. I don't know if she realized at the time, that Abel was an incubus.
Before his headwings popped, she might have suspected his 'cubi heritage. After, I'm sure she knew, since as far as we've seen only cubi have them.
Abel's headwings poped out during that incident, the question is did Kria notice them and understand their significance?
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Abel's headwings poped out during that incident, the question is did Kria notice them and understand their significance?
Considering Kria gave Abel a charm to hide his headwings, I assume she noticed them. Also, it's not like they aren't rather large and sticking out of the top of his head and whatnot. They're fairly obvious.
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 23, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Abel's headwings popped out during that incident, the question is did Kira notice them and understand their significance?
Considering Kira gave Abel a charm to hide his headwings, I assume she noticed them. Also, it's not like they aren't rather large and sticking out of the top of his head and whatnot. They're fairly obvious.
The charm hid
all of his wings (it's a generic Creature to Being transform). Kira uses it to hide hers, she loaned it to Able so he could get home without being shot by any of the adventurer teams patrolling the area. The same reason Devin insisted on escorting Abel
before Abel's headwings popped.
Abel's headwing are the same spotted color pattern as his backwings and head, not quite so obvious under the circumstances. But even if Kira did notice them, did she understand their significance at the time? Cubi appear to be not so well known. Devin didn't know what they were, or what they meant, at the time.
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward. It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is
***GASP***
lying to her daughter! I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do! :rolleyes
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 23, 2009, 01:09:17 AM
The charm hid all of his wings (it's a generic Creature to Being transform). Kira uses it to hide hers, she loaned it to Able so he could get home without being shot by any of the adventurer teams patrolling the area. The same reason Devin insisted on escorting Abel before Abel's headwings popped.
Abel's headwing are the same spotted color pattern as his backwings and head, not quite so obvious under the circumstances. But even if Kira did notice them, did she understand their significance at the time? Cubi appear to be not so well known. Devin didn't know what they were, or what they meant, at the time.
Even if cubi aren't so well known (differentiated from angels, demons or just winged beings) to the general being population, they would be known (recognized, whatever) to the creature population.
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Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward. It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is
***GASP***
lying to her daughter!
I think she knows that Regina went on a spree which by the looked of it, she had to pay for or was otherwise responsible for (because Regina was a minor at the time and she was her guardian?) or whatever.
However, it doesn't follow that she knows Dan was involved, and even if she did, he would probably have been 'just another Being'.
Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward. It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is
***GASP***
lying to her daughter! I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do! :rolleyes
It might also be because everyone she's spoken to about it already knows why it's awkward, and hence doesn't need it explaining.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 23, 2009, 04:14:46 AM
Even if cubi aren't so well known (differentiated from angels, demons or just winged beings) to the general being population, they would be known (recognized, whatever) to the creature population.
Especially to a member of what appears to be a fairly prominent demon family such as the Soulstealers.
Quote from: Pagan on February 22, 2009, 04:20:25 PM
We've got a good idea. She murdered twelve beings by manipulating his trust and she almost killed Wildy somehow as well. She also vowed to destroy him and all he loves. Oh, and she just hit him with a tray full of wine glasses. But he is taking it all rather personally. Sheesh.
If my memory serves, and if no one else has mentioned it, she also hit on Dan http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) here, possibly while killing those twelve beings or attempting to kill Wildy.
Going by the bloody claws, it was after one or both (likely closely timed) events.
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Quote from: jeffh4 on February 23, 2009, 01:11:29 AM
Just as a thought, Kria still hasn't explained why the situation with Daniel Ti'Fiona is awkward. It may still be because she knows about Regina's and Dan's history and she is
***GASP***
lying to her daughter! I mean, that would be a downright evil thiing to do! :rolleyes
It might also be because everyone she's spoken to about it already knows why it's awkward, and hence doesn't need it explaining.
As we dance to the exposition tango. :boogie
With regards,
Ted
I dont want Regina to die :mowsad
I know there is no defence , but she simply is too ignorant/young to gice up on that completly , I think justice would be better served if she could be forced to pay for her crimes by helping those she has hurt.
Besides , I think she would hate that lot more than simply dying.
I'm wondering what got the connection between Kria and Dan started to begin with. Were they childhood companions who turned away from each other, or what?
Quote from: mopman on February 26, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
I dont want Regina to die :mowsad
I know there is no defence , but she simply is too ignorant/young to gice up on that completly , I think justice would be better served if she could be forced to pay for her crimes by helping those she has hurt.
Besides , I think she would hate that lot more than simply dying.
No, no, she quite deserves to die. Even as a fan-boy of hers I can see that. She's a murderer. She killed twelve people. She shows no sign of remorse. She would gleefully murder again. She would gleefully mass-murder again. Behead her, hang her, electrocute her, put her before a firing range, or just stab a tentacle through her heart; it doesn't matter what method, but the girl has got to go.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.
A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she
has read the Janus Bond book. While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).
There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me. Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action. Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.
A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she has read the Janus Bond book. While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).
There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me. Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action. Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).
Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book? He doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a
non-canon spy spoof".
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
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Quote from: inuhanyo on February 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
It occurs to me, that Lorenda missed the entire Dan-is-a-Cubi arc, and unless Jyrrias told her, she likely has no clue about Dan's new abilities.
A little late, but it suddenly clicked and I don't think anyone else mentioned this yet.
Lorenda may have missed the 'Cubi Dan arc itself, but she has read the Janus Bond book. While fiction, it makes it dead clear that Dan is an incubus, heck, it emphasises Dan's 'Cubi abilities (e.g. 444).
There's actually an interesting side to that which has only just occurred to me. Jyrras flipped out because the book was obviously about him, to the point where he was prepared to take legal action. Curiously, Dan didn't seem to mind even though it basically identified him as a 'Cubi, which is not something he's ostensibly very keen on advertising.
More to the point, it may well have identified him as a 'Cubi with dragon heads on his wing-tentacles, which might not be very good if any Dragons buy trashy spy novels (see 728).
Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book? He doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".
But the book
does show up in-universe later. And that's what Tape is worried about. Hm... that could be a problem later. Or people could cross it off as a work of fiction.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book?
He read the draft in 478. It seems likely that Wildy would have sent him a proof, as she did to Jyrras (which was subsequently intercepted by Lorenda).
QuoteHe doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".
See Jay's reply.
EDIT:
Also, the book included the 'Cursed Amethysts' line, so I imagine the strip version is fairly close to what happened in the book.
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
But the book does show up in-universe later. And that's what Tape is worried about. Hm… that could be a problem later. Or people could cross it off as a work of fiction.
It comes up later, but so do a lot of other jokes that are clearly intended to be for amusement value and not to cause any "serious/dramatic" (I am using these terms very, very loosely) ripples. For example, Abel starts the Bene Gesserit litany against fear when he runs into Merlitz's old adventuring troupe. (I forget the exact strip) Does that mean that Frank Herbert wrote Dune and that Abel read it? I kind of doubt that is meant to be intended, and I'm tempted to shrug off the Janus Bond arc as the same sort of ridiculous fun.
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Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 26, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Is there any indication that Dan has read or even heard about the book? He doesn't exactly strike me as the literate type, even for trashy literature. Also, I'm not sure how serious to take the whole Janus bond thing apart from easy laughs. The caption that kicks it off is "Because every story needs a non-canon spy spoof".
But the book does show up in-universe later. And that's what Tape is worried about. Hm... that could be a problem later. Or people could cross it off as a work of fiction.
It comes up later, but so do a lot of other jokes that are clearly intended to be for amusement value and not to cause any "serious/dramatic" (I am using these terms very, very loosely) ripples. For example, Abel starts the Bene Gesserit litany against fear when he runs into Merlitz's old adventuring troupe. (I forget the exact strip) Does that mean that Frank Herbert wrote Dune and that Abel read it? I kind of doubt that is meant to be intended, and I'm tempted to shrug off the Janus Bond arc as the same sort of ridiculous fun.
The problem is that in-universe the Janus Bond arc was a story Wildy was writing, which explains the non-canon aspect. And not only does the Janus Bond book exist in world (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_653.php), but presumably so does the "Death by Shounen-Ai" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_654.php) scene. Oh, and Paragator (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_664.php). So, the story itself is non-canon, but it does exist in their universe.
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 06:45:11 PMbut presumably so does the "Death by Shounen-Ai" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_654.php) scene.
... This is the first time I noticed that the page number (472) referenced in that strip actually is the number of the strip that had, well, the start of the Shonen Ai apparently just about to happen: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_472.php
I'm a bit slow on the uptake, aren't I... :sweatdrop
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on February 26, 2009, 06:57:50 PM
I'm a bit slow on the uptake, aren't I... :sweatdrop
I never noticed that either, if it's any consolation...
Quote from: Aleolus on February 26, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I'm wondering what got the connection between Kria and Dan started to begin with. Were they childhood companions who turned away from each other, or what?
Wha...? Dan only met Kria in 942 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_942.php). There is no backstory between them. If you meant Dan and Regina, see 972 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) thru 974.
Short summery of relationships.
- Kria & Lorenda - mother and daughter
- Kria & Aliph - sister and brother
- Regina & Lorenda - 2d cousins
- Dan & Lorenda - friends
- Dan & Aliph - enemies
- Dan & Regina - bitter enemies
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:59:07 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on February 26, 2009, 06:57:50 PM
I'm a bit slow on the uptake, aren't I... :sweatdrop
I never noticed that either, if it's any consolation...
Me neither. That is totally awesome, Amber. :bow
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 07:01:50 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:59:07 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on February 26, 2009, 06:57:50 PM
I'm a bit slow on the uptake, aren't I... :sweatdrop
I never noticed that either, if it's any consolation...
Me neither. That is totally awesome, Amber. :bow
Wha? You guys really missed that? :erk
Personally, I can't wait till he gets the Photo album.
D : "KO'd him. That one too. Wow, been a while since I've seen her. How's she doing?"
K : "Still dead. No real want to get her back."
D : "Ah. Good call."
Quote from: mopman on February 26, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
I dont want Regina to die :mowsad
I know there is no defence , but she simply is too ignorant/young to gice up on that completly , I think justice would be better served if she could be forced to pay for her crimes by helping those she has hurt.
Besides , I think she would hate that lot more than simply dying.
12 dead. How can she make restitution to the dead?
But Dan has taught her what it's like to be the hunted, the one fleeing in terror before
death incarnate. At least this sets her up for a Not So Different (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoDifferent) moment between her and her prey.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 26, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
But Dan has taught her what it's like to be the hunted, the one fleeing in terror before death incarnate. At least this sets her up for a Not So Different (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoDifferent) moment between her and her prey.
Well, he DID say he was gonna destroy her. He didn't specify HOW he was gonna do so? Right?
Quote from: Draken on February 26, 2009, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 26, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
But Dan has taught her what it's like to be the hunted, the one fleeing in terror before death incarnate. At least this sets her up for a Not So Different (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoDifferent) moment between her and her prey.
Well, he DID say he was gonna destroy her. He didn't specify HOW he was gonna do so? Right?
I'm pretty sure he intends to turn her into Demon-mincemeat, but that certainly doesn't exclude the plot from coming out differently.
She got herself locked in a secure place, she's safe for at least a little while. If she's lucky, Kria and Lorenda will get to Daniel before he figures out how to get to her. Dan's not in a position to demand her head, so I think she's got a good chance to survive
this encounter. But she'll be back on Dan's radar, and that can't be good for her.
I wonder how much of this Destinia knew about, and anticipated? Was this a Machiavellian plot to motivate him to go back to SAIA to train, and therefore be safely away from dragons?
Quote from: Draken on February 26, 2009, 09:28:52 PM
Well, he DID say he was gonna destroy her. He didn't specify HOW he was gonna do so? Right?
Given Dan's off-the-cuff actions, I believe the
how part involves lots of sharp and pointy rending and tearing. I doubt he'd take the route of deliberately torturing her beyond the death threats as he tries to get at her.
Which isn't to say that he couldn't change his mind once he has a moment to cool down and consider what he's doing. Once that happens, Dan
might switch from Kill-with-Extreme-Prejudice or Wrath-of-Dan mode to some lesser retribution...
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 26, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
I wonder how much of this Destinia knew about, and anticipated? Was this a Machiavellian plot to motivate him to go back to SAIA to train, and therefore be safely away from dragons?
It's improbable, but not impossible. She may well have known Lorenda from the Twink territories. If the Regina affair happened while Dee was around, and if Dee learned of the link while they were both at the TTs, she might have been able to string it all into a plan. Though to be honest, it has a hell of a lot of things that can go wrong.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 27, 2009, 04:09:09 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 26, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
I wonder how much of this Destinia knew about, and anticipated? Was this a Machiavellian plot to motivate him to go back to SAIA to train, and therefore be safely away from dragons?
It's improbable, but not impossible. She may well have known Lorenda from the Twink territories. If the Regina affair happened while Dee was around, and if Dee learned of the link while they were both at the TTs, she might have been able to string it all into a plan. Though to be honest, it has a hell of a lot of things that can go wrong.
The key piece of extra information is that Regina is at Kria's. Given Regina's reaction to seeing Dan, there are clearly grounds for being confident that Dan could handle her even before his Cubi powers started developing. The big thing that could go wrong is that Regina might have failed to get out of Dan's reach.
Clearly Dee thought Dan would be able to handle the "negotiations" with Kria, giving him the address in the guise of Biggs made him warier, if anything that insured that Dan wouldn't just barge in and start fighting. Lorenda being there was a plus, but not critical.
Quote from: Aleolus on February 26, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I'm wondering what got the connection between Kria and Dan started to begin with. Were they childhood companions who turned away from each other, or what?
How could they be? Kria was already 393 years old when Dan was born. She wasn't even childhood friends with Abel, being 19 years older than him. She was his magic teacher (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_25.php) after his family moved to Zinvth.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 27, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on February 26, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I'm wondering what got the connection between Kria and Dan started to begin with. Were they childhood companions who turned away from each other, or what?
How could they be? Kria was already 393 years old when Dan was born. She wasn't even childhood friends with Abel, being 19 years older than him. She was his magic teacher (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_25.php) after his family moved to Zinvth.
I'm guessing Aleolus may have meant Regina, rather than Kria....