Wow. Poor Dan, all sad. Also..Is it just me or does Dans mom at that age still ahve her 'perky wingspan'? :D
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It's not just you. Interesting... Destania is hiding her headwings.
And so this was Dan's first meeting, but not the first time he defeated Dark Pegasus. Well, it explains how Dan's hatred/disliking of Dark Pegasus got started. I wonder if the next DMFA continues the flashback or returns to the present...
As for that Update Schedule... damn Amber. Best luck with that: it sounds like you need it.
Good luck with the updates Amber and hopefully we don't have to bury you in a coffin in shape of a Jolt can! c:
And on topic with the comic line....DAN'S SAD FACE...IT BURNS! :eek
What surprised me was that Dee is hiding her headwings. She normally doesn't do that.
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
What surprised me was that Dee is hiding her headwings. She normally doesn't do that.
Civilian setting, town with a population of adventurers (presumably), and a kid with no overt magical abilities and another kid who refuses to use his magic and hasn't come into his Cubi powers yet? I can see why she'd do that. As for not hiding her backwings, while Dan would get treated weird if he had wings and neither of his parents did (see Abel), if one of his parents has wings then he probably gets treated a little better. I guess.
...The Adorable level of dan's sad face... It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAND! :U
Great work as usual, Amber.
Quote from: Jairus on September 01, 2008, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
What surprised me was that Dee is hiding her headwings. She normally doesn't do that.
Civilian setting, town with a population of adventurers (presumably), and a kid with no overt magical abilities and another kid who refuses to use his magic and hasn't come into his Cubi powers yet? I can see why she'd do that. As for not hiding her backwings, while Dan would get treated weird if he had wings and neither of his parents did (see Abel), if one of his parents has wings then he probably gets treated a little better. I guess.
Its just that this is the first time we have seen Destania without her headwings when she is in her base form. All other times we have seen her she has had them out, not counting when she was pretending to be someone else.
Wow... Dan's mom is one hot lady. :U
he never said that he won as we see he didn't still i wonder how his mom will comfort him when she hears the full story. maybe cookies or a new weapon?
4th panel - cutest dan ever
Quote from: Akisohida on August 31, 2008, 11:54:23 PMAlso..Is it just me or does Dans mom at that age still ahve her 'perky wingspan'? :D
the time difference between the flashback and the present is quite less than 10 years. for a cubi that doesn't make the slightest difference, does it? (specially if you take shapeshifting into account)
Comic is good, and Dan's sad face is so cute!
But the little taco mab, taco dan, taco abel, and jyrass in the wrap in the donation counter are even better. :D
:bunny
Where are her glasses?!
She looked so sexy with the glasses!
Good luck on the update schedule, Amber.
Along with the cuteness of panel 4 (Dan's face), I must also note in panel 5 Destania's reaction is also priceless.
Quote from: e_voyager on September 01, 2008, 12:40:32 AM
he never said that he won as we see he didn't still i wonder how his mom will comfort him when she hears the full story. maybe cookies or a new weapon?
Yeah, as I mentioned a couple strips ago, Dan's first
encounter with DP, not the first time
he defeated him. So there's still at least 2 more encounters before DP's third defeat (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_150.php), one of which is the Spork. Unless DP considers himself thwarted already in this one.
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he looks like what he really needs is cookies and milk, and thats somehow wrong
and mom there is looking hot, which is more wrong, specifically when said by me
Awww...Dan needs a hug!
Dan doesn't strike me and the need a hug kine of person.
8) Poor Dan ... Does he need a hug ?
Granted Dan has just had an extremely stressful day(s?), and that Hannah's death would have sunk in by that point, but I'm not sure that would have been the story I'd have chosen to relate to a Warp Aci I'd only just met.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2008, 04:38:10 AM
Granted Dan has just had an extremely stressful day(s?), and that Hannah's death would have sunk in by that point, but I'm not sure that would have been the story I'd have chosen to relate to a Warp Aci I'd only just met.
Warp Aci are generally reasonably harmless, and Fi is attached to Dan... Telling it to Abel, however...
Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:26:09 AM
Warp Aci are generally reasonably harmless, and Fi is attached to Dan... Telling it to Abel, however...
That's the thing. Fi may be attached to Dan, but... well, look at 812-814.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2008, 05:32:10 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:26:09 AM
Warp Aci are generally reasonably harmless, and Fi is attached to Dan... Telling it to Abel, however...
That's the thing. Fi may be attached to Dan, but... well, look at 812-814.
maybe, but i'm pretty sure Fa'Lina knows already *nods*
Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:40:42 AM
maybe, but i'm pretty sure Fa'Lina knows already *nods*
Thinking about it, Dan is probably used to being embarrassed courtesy of Wildy, so Fi as well isn't going to make much difference.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2008, 05:45:46 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:40:42 AM
maybe, but i'm pretty sure Fa'Lina knows already *nods*
Thinking about it, Dan is probably used to being embarrassed courtesy of Wildy, so Fi as well isn't going to make much difference.
and let's face it, Wildy would prolly use it as ammunition anyways..
Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:57:10 AM
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Quote from: Turnsky on September 01, 2008, 05:40:42 AM
maybe, but i'm pretty sure Fa'Lina knows already *nods*
Thinking about it, Dan is probably used to being embarrassed courtesy of Wildy, so Fi as well isn't going to make much difference.
and let's face it, Wildy would prolly use it as ammunition anyways..
Perhaps, but perhaps this is something he's not shared with her, I mean given her nature I sure wouldn't tell her about such an event, or at least not the really embarrassing parts
I've been wondering about the equivalent age of beings compared to cubi, considering 1500 is probably middle age (i.e 40 ish) what age would that make Dan?
six according to a certain purple succubus.
Quote from: MT Hazard on September 01, 2008, 06:50:30 AM
I've been wondering about the equivalent age of beings compared to cubi, considering 1500 is probably middle age (i.e 40 ish) what age would that make Dan?
six according to a certain purple succubus.
Dan is but a Neophyte..
Poor Dan. Emotional aftershock. For a first adventure, it was a bit of a downer.
And good luck to Amber with the ambitious September update schedule!
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:33:49 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 01, 2008, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
What surprised me was that Dee is hiding her headwings. She normally doesn't do that.
Civilian setting, town with a population of adventurers (presumably), and a kid with no overt magical abilities and another kid who refuses to use his magic and hasn't come into his Cubi powers yet? I can see why she'd do that. As for not hiding her backwings, while Dan would get treated weird if he had wings and neither of his parents did (see Abel), if one of his parents has wings then he probably gets treated a little better. I guess.
Its just that this is the first time we have seen Destania without her headwings when she is in her base form. All other times we have seen her she has had them out, not counting when she was pretending to be someone else.
Yes, but this scene takes place when she was living a "normal" life with husband and kids among beings. Makes sense that she'd hide her headwings, as they'd identify her as a cubi and very likely make adventurers or angry mobs with torches and pitchforks pay a visit. (Remember how people reacted when she first showed up at the inn: They wanted to kill her.)
I'm still more interested on how, with Dan's parents, it went from blood death and murder to marriage. I smell a romantic comedy movie somewhere in that timeline.
Awwwwwwww.
This is a really adorable page. I love how you can stil see a Mom/Son relation.
Though I have to wonder why Dan would choose this story to tell. It doesn't seem quite...heroic. Perhaps Dan isn't as macho (or caring about looking masculine) as we thought, maybe the story isn't over, or maybe he just wants to sink in how horrible DP is.
....AWWWWW.
Well, don't all parents do the same mistakes. Poor crybaby Dan- no bad guy slain and no amazon bed-action! Pity!
Im just glad to see the Amazon's survived.. Means they could someday come back!
I'm more hoping that we'll learn Destania's connection to Dark Pegasus, (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) assuming Dan tells Destania the whole story.
Quote from: e_voyager on September 01, 2008, 12:40:32 AM
he never said that he won as we see he didn't still i wonder how his mom will comfort him when she hears the full story. maybe cookies or a new weapon?
I would expect both, plus a little combat training. I can just picture it now.
"Now if you want to improve your chance of disemboweling your opponent, hold the sword like this. And try the oatmeal cookies, they're really good."
Honestly, this is Dan's story about the adventure, I really doubt that we'll actually get to see how Destania comforts her son, because thats not part of his adventure. Unfortunate. Though I'd place my bet on cookies!
I'm vaguely curious as to why Dee doesn't know what happened already, given that Dan is going to be practically radiating it. I guess reading her son's thoughts is considered impolite. Either that, or she doesn't want to hear the babel of his friends' inner dialogue as well.
**EDIT**
What could really be interesting is Dee's reaction when she finds out that her darling son has been partying with a Dragon.
Quote from: Paul on September 01, 2008, 08:44:36 AM
Poor Dan. Emotional aftershock. For a first adventure, it was a bit of a downer.
And good luck to Amber with the ambitious September update schedule!
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:33:49 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 01, 2008, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: AndersW on September 01, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
What surprised me was that Dee is hiding her headwings. She normally doesn't do that.
Civilian setting, town with a population of adventurers (presumably), and a kid with no overt magical abilities and another kid who refuses to use his magic and hasn't come into his Cubi powers yet? I can see why she'd do that. As for not hiding her backwings, while Dan would get treated weird if he had wings and neither of his parents did (see Abel), if one of his parents has wings then he probably gets treated a little better. I guess.
Its just that this is the first time we have seen Destania without her headwings when she is in her base form. All other times we have seen her she has had them out, not counting when she was pretending to be someone else.
Yes, but this scene takes place when she was living a "normal" life with husband and kids among beings. Makes sense that she'd hide her headwings, as they'd identify her as a cubi and very likely make adventurers or angry mobs with torches and pitchforks pay a visit. (Remember how people reacted when she first showed up at the inn: They wanted to kill her.)
She likely hid them all the time when in Dan's presence. He was totally taken off guard by his own powers.
Hmmm...
I got it!
Dan didn't seem to bode well with being called an incubus by Aary when Destania was first mentioned. It may have been that Destania didn't make her cubi heritage apparent to Dan when he was around her. Think about it. Born to a cubi, raised by a cubi, but being a cubi is a surprise to him? Destania, at this time, was probably still in her "new life" phase where she was dodging around the fact she was a cubi for the betterment of her family. Dan was probably completely unaware that his mother was a cubi throughout his early life. So Des was hiding her headwings to hide the fact she was cubi, not only to the people around her, but to her own family.
P.S. Young Destania is haaaaawt.
Quote from: Alterationartist on September 01, 2008, 04:16:21 PM
Think about it. Born to a cubi, raised by a cubi, but being a cubi is a surprise to him? Destania, at this time, was probably still in her "new life" phase where she was dodging around the fact she was a cubi for the betterment of her family. Dan was probably completely unaware that his mother was a cubi throughout his early life.
That's an interesting theory. While it's plausible, personally, I think Dan was just in denial. There's at least one shot of her with headwings while Dan was around, though he was a babe in arms at the time.
DP tells him (eventually) that he's the son of a succubus. When Aary confronts Dan, he says "the only thing I inherited from my mom was her wings," which suggests to me that he knew there were other, less savoury aspects that he could potentially inherit.
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Des was hiding her headwings to hide the fact she was cubi, not only to the people around her, but to her own family.
Maybe, but Alexsi knew what she was. I think it's more likely that Dee is hiding at this particular time, because Dan's friends are there. Even if they don't personally object to what she is, word might spread.
QuoteP.S. Young Destania is haaaaawt.
You know she's about seven thousand years old, right? :3
All I have to say is, Dan's expression in the fourth panel is very "d'aaaw!"-worthy. And despite all the hintings of Destania's evil-ness in the comic, she's gotten the role of a caring mother down pat.
ahahahahahahahaah
my bet is that after Dan tells her what happened she hunts DP down and screams "HOW DARE YOU HURT MY LITTLE BOY!" and shreds his face off
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 01, 2008, 06:59:07 PM
my bet is that after Dan tells her what happened she hunts DP down and screams "HOW DARE YOU HURT MY LITTLE BOY!" and shreds his face off
For all her motherly instinct, this is still Destania. She would know that that would be embarrassing to Dan if he found out, and she is good at developing evil plans. If she was to do it, she would probably disguise herself so that Dark Pegasus would think that it was another son of another distraught mother. Of course, she could rip his face off and not tell him it was because of her son. Which might explain why Dark Pegasus was interested in the fact that Destania had a son. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php)
By the way is the way Destania looks so domestic and motherly. Hotness seems to be a secondary attribute.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2008, 12:45:20 PMWhat could really be interesting is Dee's reaction when she finds out that her darling son has been partying with a Dragon.
I don't think she could find out about that by reading his thoughts given that Dan apparently didn't see Shanna as a dragon
Quote from: Jack McSlay on September 01, 2008, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 01, 2008, 12:45:20 PMWhat could really be interesting is Dee's reaction when she finds out that her darling son has been partying with a Dragon.
I don't think she could find out about that by reading his thoughts given that Dan apparently didn't see Shanna as a dragon
Considering that he's telling the whole thing in flashback and knows that Shanna was a dragon, I'd say he either learned it now or at a later meeting, which allowed him to fill in the blanks. So, he might not have known that Shanna was a dragon
then, but I'd wager that he did.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on September 01, 2008, 07:50:34 PM
I don't think she could find out about that by reading his thoughts given that Dan apparently didn't see Shanna as a dragon
Do we know that he doesn't recognise her?
Either way, Dee, being a good mother, is likely to want to know what's up with Dan, and she's going to ask him what happened. (Even if she reads his thoughts, she's presumably going to ask him for verisimilitude).
Even assuming that he doesn't know what Shanna is (the WFH arc suggests he probably does since he tends to owe money to dragons) - a description like "a Being who turned into a giant reptile" is probably enough to set some wheels turning inside his mother's head...
Yeah, Destania has been made out to be, not just a little, but really smart. It's not like she can't figure it out on her own anyways. Most Mythos' we've seen haven't had the standard being shape of two legs, two arms and such. While that doesn't say much as far as figuring out (considering how little is known about the Mythos') it could mean something.
Just a note, I don't think Dan actually saw Shanna changing into a dragon. He was somewhat busy running the opposite direction at that time.
...Wait, did the amazons ever learn his gender? :V
Is it just me or does Destania look slightly different than in older comics (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_713.php).
When I first spied the comic something struck me as different and it took me a bit but I think Destania's head and eyes are slightly narrower, her neck a little longer, and I think her frame is slightly more robust(though it might be the nature of the clothes).
Quote from: PencilinHand on September 01, 2008, 09:33:56 PM
Is it just me or does Destania look slightly different than in older comics (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_713.php).
When I first spied the comic something struck me as different and it took me a bit but I think Destania's head and eyes are slightly narrower, her neck a little longer, and I think her frame is slightly more robust(though it might be the nature of the clothes).
It could possibly be due to aging, or she altered her form slightly (unlikely), or it could be that Amber has been refining her style regarding Destania.
Quote from: Paul on September 01, 2008, 08:44:36 AM
Poor Dan. Emotional aftershock. For a first adventure, it was a bit of a downer.
I dunno, I think he learned a valuable lesson, and that adventuring isn't fun and games. It's not glamorous. It showed that not everyone gets a happy ending, people do die adventuring. But to learn that on his first day out of school, ouchie.
two updates...and I missed the second one by that much.
Quote from: Jairus on September 01, 2008, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: PencilinHand on September 01, 2008, 09:33:56 PM
Is it just me or does Destania look slightly different than in older comics (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_713.php).
When I first spied the comic something struck me as different and it took me a bit but I think Destania's head and eyes are slightly narrower, her neck a little longer, and I think her frame is slightly more robust(though it might be the nature of the clothes).
It could possibly be due to aging, or she altered her form slightly (unlikely), or it could be that Amber has been refining her style regarding Destania.
Shape. Shifters. :mwaha
Older? Younger? C'mon. Four years to her is like last week to the rest of us.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on September 01, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
Just a note, I don't think Dan actually saw Shanna changing into a dragon. He was somewhat busy running the opposite direction at that time.
That's true, but then how would Dan know that she was a dragon when relating the story to Fi? Unless Shanna turns up again later, someone must have told him.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 02, 2008, 04:10:14 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on September 01, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
Just a note, I don't think Dan actually saw Shanna changing into a dragon. He was somewhat busy running the opposite direction at that time.
That's true, but then how would Dan know that she was a dragon when relating the story to Fi? Unless Shanna turns up again later, someone must have told him.
Or maybe it was drawn for our benifit, and Dan didn't actually say that.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on September 02, 2008, 08:24:51 AM
Or maybe it was drawn for our benifit, and Dan didn't actually say that.
I think that's about right. It wouldn't make for as interesting of a story if we were limited to seeing things only from the eyes of Dan and I'm pretty sure boring your audience doesn't go well for any webcomic artist. This is entertainment so some reality bending is required. Beyond that.. this is a comic about anthromorphs in a magical realm: Some suspension of disbelief
might be required.
Quote from: Akisohida on August 31, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
Wow. Poor Dan, all sad. Also..Is it just me or does Dans mom at that age still ahve her 'perky wingspan'? :D
Why yes, yes she does :mowwink :boogie
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 02, 2008, 04:10:14 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on September 01, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
Just a note, I don't think Dan actually saw Shanna changing into a dragon. He was somewhat busy running the opposite direction at that time.
That's true, but then how would Dan know that she was a dragon when relating the story to Fi? Unless Shanna turns up again later, someone must have told him.
We do know that Aliyka saw her as a dragon, and that Aliyka and Dan met in other adventures that occured between the flashback and the current timeframe.
Although, honestly, I'm not sure what part of Desti's little schpeil was what triggered Dan crying, it all seems fairly innocent to me. Maybe he just had all that building up and he couldn't hold it in any more.
Plus, I bet the next comic shows Dan spilling everything to Desti, while she holds his head against her massive heaving bosom!
I do admit I took a few liberties in giving the readers a view of what was happening that Dan may not himself have been known to. (like DP having dinner instead of retreating, and the fight between Shanna and Aliyka)
Either way, at this stage in his life Dan wouldnt have much to worry about regarding dragons. Well...outside of the worries anyone would likely have regarding dragons.
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 02, 2008, 01:23:08 PM
I do admit I took a few liberties in giving the readers a view of what was happening that Dan may not himself have been known to. (like DP having dinner instead of retreating, and the fight between Shanna and Aliyka)
Oh, okay. So, does Dan know by now (the present day) that Shanna is a dragon, and if so when did he learn? And a certain part of me is hoping that he never finds out that DP just went out to dinner after their fight: that would not be good for his ego at all. Either that or it would drive him into a berserker rage at the thought that DP killed a friend of his and beat the tar out of him and another friend and then simply went out to dinner... or is that how Dan was able to beat DP the next time they fought?
Out of curiosity, how important to the plot is the person he's having dinner with? And who is she? I'm not really expecting an answer, but a guy can dream...
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 02, 2008, 01:23:08 PM
Either way, at this stage in his life Dan wouldnt have much to worry about regarding dragons. Well...outside of the worries anyone would likely have regarding dragons.
Heh, good point. Besides which, I don't think he'd have much to worry about from Shanna: she seems to regard him as an equal, or at the very least a comrade, so maybe she'll let his Cubi heritage slide... especially if he doesn't care much for it.
Quote from: Eibbor_N on September 01, 2008, 09:27:49 PM
...Wait, did the amazons ever learn his gender? :V
Aliyka and Shanna referred to him as a "he", so we presume so.
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Quote from: Eibbor_N on September 01, 2008, 09:27:49 PM
...Wait, did the amazons ever learn his gender? :V
Aliyka and Shanna referred to him as a "he", so we presume so.
methinks they think of Dan as one of their siblings.. :3
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Quote from: Eibbor_N on September 01, 2008, 09:27:49 PM
...Wait, did the amazons ever learn his gender? :V
Aliyka and Shanna referred to him as a "he", so we presume so.
methinks they think of Dan as one of their siblings.. :3
Yay for incest
I forgot about them saying "he" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_929.php) by the time I got to Shanna calling him Danna (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_930.php).
So even knowing he's a guy, she must consider him "one of the girls". :catgirl :mowmeep