sadely i was forced to go to peta's website for school, the first thing i saw was a mario spoof called "Kentucky fried cruelty" and apparently they are pissed at how kentucky fried chicken is raising their chickens. so i play the most addicting online game ever and then go on to the next thing and i quote "tell lowes to stop selling glue traps"... apparently they are too cruel for pests... you know the little things that caused the black plague... the thing that wiped out almost 3 quarters of europe's population... glue traps are too cruel for the pests... i'm trying not to throw rats with the plague at them...
this just in they apparently have a video to promote the spay and neutering of your cats... all that is shows is them having way too good of a time to be appropriate for young eye's, that said i think i'm going to go gouge out mine.
Freaks exist in every form , sometimes its best to ignore them.
That and cruelty makes everything taste better :B
I thought the chicken vacuum was funny, PETA just has no sense of humor. They even forced a TV show to give goldfish a bigger bowl, the goldfish cared for 5 seconds, then forgot.
Also, PETA is known for being almost as stupid and mindless in its goals as Scientology is. The thread on THAT had a pretty clear pattern on the opinion of the organization.
Hey PETA is a very good group...
People eating tasty animals! I mean whats wrong with that :P
they are a good group but there is a line between good and obsessive...
Quote from: gh0st on June 10, 2008, 12:22:22 AM
they are a good group but there is a line between good and obsessive...
I am not obsessed with eating tasty animals!
Quote from: Azriel on June 10, 2008, 12:43:25 AM
Quote from: gh0st on June 10, 2008, 12:22:22 AM
they are a good group but there is a line between good and obsessive...
I am not obsessed with eating tasty animals!
i wasn't calling you obsessed i was calling peta obsessed
Quote from: gh0st on June 10, 2008, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: Azriel on June 10, 2008, 12:43:25 AM
Quote from: gh0st on June 10, 2008, 12:22:22 AM
they are a good group but there is a line between good and obsessive...
I am not obsessed with eating tasty animals!
i wasn't calling you obsessed i was calling peta obsessed
but I am a member of Peta...oh wait you mean those nut jobs, the ones who don't even want the blind to have guide dogs...the people who don't want animal testing for medicine, despite the fact without it we wouldn't have modern medicine?
No, we meant Partition for Ending the Teaching Alchemy personally I'm against them.
Quote from: shadowterm on June 10, 2008, 01:29:51 AM
No, we meant Partition for Ending the Teaching Alchemy personally I'm against them.
Ah well that makes sense now!
Um. I can't speak for KFC specifically, but chickens are generally treated really poorly. And it is important to spay and neuter pets so that they don't breed and create street animals that will likely starve in the streets. I haven't seen the site personally, and I'd believe that it's presented in an extremest fashion, but nothing that you've listed is really unreasonable. Rodents slowly starve or dehydrate to death in glue traps...
Quote from: Eibbor_N on June 10, 2008, 02:30:36 AM
Um. I can't speak for KFC specifically, but chickens are generally treated really poorly.
RIGHT! Ever had anything to do with REAL Chickens?
Real Chickens are only slightly smarter than rocks. They are also QUITE mean to each other, every flock picks on one chicken and they just torment it to death hence the term "Hen Pecked." And they are cannibalistic they WILL and DO eat chicken if one dies in the pen. They will also eat each others eggs from time to time to.
"Chicken Rights" is about as smart as Oyster Rights or Cockroach sensitivities.
Where you have PETA, ALF (Animal Liberation Front) is right there with them in the shadows.
Mice are rather nasty to each other as well. They're cannibalistic and often fight to the death. In our lab, I always have to check the ones housed together. Sometimes even two male siblings that have been living in the same cage since birth will just start killing each other once they reach two months of age (approximately mouse maturity). They also breed like bacteria if left unchecked. Their numbers can go from two to a million before you know it.
Face it, mice are a 'feeder species', which practically every carnivorous critter will gobble up, and they reproduce faster to keep up. Just look at Australia's farming regions a few decades ago when there was a mouse population explosion. The scurrying fuzzballs were everywhere. Nobody there was concerned with mouse rights as they smashed, gassed, and did whatever they had to do to stop the swarms of bitey little rodents.
Same thing with rats.
And people too! PETA should help out the human overpopulation problem by committing suicide. >:3
Quote from: Alondro on June 10, 2008, 07:50:34 AM
And people too! PETA should help out the human overpopulation problem by committing suicide. >:3
I'd vote for that...
Personally I disagree on how KFC treats its livestock... Free range chicken tastes a lot better.
Quote from: Zorro on June 10, 2008, 03:30:13 AM
RIGHT! Ever had anything to do with REAL Chickens?
Real Chickens are only slightly smarter than rocks. They are also QUITE mean to each other, every flock picks on one chicken and they just torment it to death hence the term "Hen Pecked."
I believe it's also the origin of the term "pecking order". The biggest and strongest chicken picks (or pecks) on the next strongest, and so on down the line.
Everyone loves poking fun at PETA's obvious shortcomings... (http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21)
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 10, 2008, 12:35:18 PM
Everyone loves poking fun at PETA's obvious shortcomings... (http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21)
Oh what ever could those be? :rolleyes
out of curiosity, did PETA ever get over the blow to their reputation when people found out they bought meat lockers?
i mean, sure, donate money to PETA- they save poor little puppies and kitties! no, they euthenise them because they're too busy comparing people who eat chicken to nazis to even dick with the puppies and kitties, and spend their money on airfare to throw paint on celebrities fur coats instead of paying for the critters to get adopted.
So, tell me, did they ever think of a good excuse for that?
PETA: Umm... umm... *Throws paint on Brun* Meat is murder! *Runs away*
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 10, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
PETA: Umm... umm... *Throws paint on Brun* Meat is murder! *Runs away*
*Charles demonstrates why such statements are useless upon the evil humans* Yes. It is murder. Tasty, delicious bloody murder of helpless dumb animals to FEED our ravenous carnivorous appetite! Our rage increases as we devour our fellow beings and we fight and kill and slaughter to sustain the addictive mania until ALL IS LEFT IN DESOLATION AND WE MUST EAT EACH OTHER TO SURVIVE!!! :mwaha
Join us! It's devlish good fun! >:3
ahh, nothing like a battle royale. :)
i call the katana!!!
and i call dibs on P.E.T.A's headquarters!
:mowninja
I went to peta's site once and posted a rant on their forums about how meat is not murder, the animal is already dead and they arent honoring it by throwing it away, how experimenting to see if they could get predators to eat alternatives to meat is no less cruel then experiments done by the very labs they try to get shut down, how they constantly argue against cruelty to animals then turn around and mess with the natural order and food chains, and act like hypocrites in general. Ya, I got about 100 angry emails and death threats that week on my yahoo mail account from that and permabanned from peta's website.
Quote from: Zorro on June 10, 2008, 03:30:13 AM
RIGHT! Ever had anything to do with REAL Chickens?
Real Chickens are only slightly smarter than rocks. They are also QUITE mean to each other, every flock picks on one chicken and they just torment it to death hence the term "Hen Pecked." And they are cannibalistic they WILL and DO eat chicken if one dies in the pen. They will also eat each others eggs from time to time to.
"Chicken Rights" is about as smart as Oyster Rights or Cockroach sensitivities.
I know that REAL chickens are awful. Believe me, I've been chased around a farm yard by one! But I'd be uncomfortable with cockroaches being locked in cages only slightly larger than them for their entire lives, too. *shrug*[/bleeding heart]
Quote from: Eibbor_N on June 10, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: Zorro on June 10, 2008, 03:30:13 AM
RIGHT! Ever had anything to do with REAL Chickens?
Real Chickens are only slightly smarter than rocks. They are also QUITE mean to each other, every flock picks on one chicken and they just torment it to death hence the term "Hen Pecked." And they are cannibalistic they WILL and DO eat chicken if one dies in the pen. They will also eat each others eggs from time to time to.
"Chicken Rights" is about as smart as Oyster Rights or Cockroach sensitivities.
I know that REAL chickens are awful. Believe me, I've been chased around a farm yard by one! But I'd be uncomfortable with cockroaches being locked in cages only slightly larger than them for their entire lives, too. *shrug*[/bleeding heart]
*Charles holds up a matchbox* I've got a roach in heeeeeere! It's been here for yeeeeeears! >:3
Quote from: Teroniss on June 10, 2008, 11:05:51 PM
I went to peta's site once and posted a rant on their forums about how meat is not murder, the animal is already dead and they arent honoring it by throwing it away, how experimenting to see if they could get predators to eat alternatives to meat is no less cruel then experiments done by the very labs they try to get shut down, how they constantly argue against cruelty to animals then turn around and mess with the natural order and food chains, and act like hypocrites in general. Ya, I got about 100 angry emails and death threats that week on my yahoo mail account from that and permabanned from peta's website.
Death threats? Banned?
Well... seems at least on their message board they're just like most other internet groups...
4peta :3
I suppose it's just useless to try to argue with some people, if they believe they're right no matter what you say or do or prove through basic logic.
in some perverse way i am proud that ive eaten meats from such unusual sources as roadkill deer, roadkill snapping turtle, painted turtle that was not roadkill but was darn easy to catch anyways, pheasant that another hunter shot but couldn't find cause I got to it first, squirrels that got into our bid feeder, at least a dozen different kinds of fish taken from local lakes and rivers, bison burgers, pigeon/morning dove cant really tell the difference, roast mutton like old William used to cook, wild goose, purloined duck, flattened skunk sandwiches with tomato sauce, and of course the usual assortment of pork, beef, goat, and chicken
one day i will have to try beaver, i hear its superb, but until then my favorite will be goat.
also an age old question has been answered- i met someone who had eaten penguin and i had always wondered if it tasted like fish or chicken..... apperantly penguin tastes like fishy chicken, what a letdown.
QuoteMan is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until he eats them.
I view PETA as being no better then terrorists. They even hired an arsonist to burn down an animal testing lab. The son of a bitch now teaches people how to make Molotov cocktails and is still endorsed by PETA even though they won't admit it. Their finances were checked into and it was found they were actually paying the guy.
Quote from: Alondro on June 11, 2008, 09:07:51 AM
*Charles holds up a matchbox* I've got a roach in heeeeeere! It's been here for yeeeeeears! >:3
Unhand that helpless cockroach, villain! :link
Quote from: Eibbor_N on June 13, 2008, 05:14:04 AM
Unhand that helpless cockroach, villain! :link
He never said it was alive...
why am i imagining a roach with a long beard and a tiny walking stick?
Quote from: AngelSephy on June 12, 2008, 11:44:11 PM
I view PETA as being no better then terrorists. They even hired an arsonist to burn down an animal testing lab. The son of a bitch now teaches people how to make Molotov cocktails and is still endorsed by PETA even though they won't admit it. Their finances were checked into and it was found they were actually paying the guy.
I think PETA may be a pain in the tail, but I *usually* think of them as separate from something like ALF. Not that they don't support ALF, I'm sure, but I never thought of PETA as being that militant.
Quote from: modelincard on June 13, 2008, 07:29:35 AM
Quote from: AngelSephy on June 12, 2008, 11:44:11 PM
I view PETA as being no better then terrorists. They even hired an arsonist to burn down an animal testing lab. The son of a bitch now teaches people how to make Molotov cocktails and is still endorsed by PETA even though they won't admit it. Their finances were checked into and it was found they were actually paying the guy.
I think PETA may be a pain in the tail, but I *usually* think of them as separate from something like ALF. Not that they don't support ALF, I'm sure, but I never thought of PETA as being that militant.
From the Black Eye section of the website I posted earlier...
QuotePeople for the Ethical Treatment of Animals provides aid and comfort for the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and the Animal Liberation Front (ALF). The two groups are responsible for more than 600 crimes since 1996, causing (by a very conservative FBI estimate) more than $43 million in damage. ALF's "press office" brags that in 2002, the two groups committed "100 illegal direct actions" -- like blowing up SUVs, destroying the brakes on seafood delivery trucks, and planting firebombs in restaurants.
The FBI calls ALF and ELF the nation's "most serious domestic terrorism threat." Bruce Friedrich, PETA's "vegan campaign director" and third-in-command, didn't seem to care when he addressed the Animal Rights 2001 convention in Virginia, telling a crowd of over 1,000 activists that "blowing stuff up and smashing windows" is "a great way to bring about animal liberation."
"It would be great," he added, "if all the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded tomorrow."
PETA's connections to ALF and ELF are indisputable. "We did it, we did it. We gave $1,500 to the ELF for a specific program," PETA's Lisa Lange admitted on the Fox News Channel. PETA has offered no fewer than eight different explanations of what the "specific program" was, but law enforcement leaders have noted that since the Earth Liberation Front is a criminal enterprise, it has absolutely no legal "programs" of any kind.
For instance, in 2003, ELF set fire to an unfinished, 200 unit condominium complex near San Diego. The arson caused $50 million in damage, and according to a San Diego Fire Captain: "It could have killed someone." ELF left its calling card in the form of a twelve foot sign that read: "If you build it -- we will burn it -- the ELF's are mad."
PETA also has given $2,000 to David Wilson, then a national ALF "spokesperson." The group paid $27,000 for the legal defense of Roger Troen, who was arrested for taking part in an October 1986 burglary and arson at the University of Oregon. It gave $7,500 to Fran Stephanie Trutt, who tried to murder the president of a medical laboratory. It gave $5,000 to Josh Harper, who attacked Native Americans on a whale hunt by throwing smoke bombs, shooting flares, and spraying their faces with chemical fire extinguishers. All of these monies were paid out of tax-exempt funds, the same pot of money constantly enlarged by donations from an unsuspecting general public.
PETA president Ingrid Newkirk is also an acknowledged financial supporter of a publication called No Compromise. This periodical operates on behalf of the radicals of ALF, and often publishes underground "communiqués" and calls to arms from ALF leaders.
Most ominously, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk was involved in the multi-million-dollar arson at Michigan State University that resulted in a 57-month prison term for Animal Liberation Front bomber Rodney Coronado. At Coronado's sentencing hearing, U.S. Attorney Michael Dettmer said that PETA's Ingrid Newkirk arranged ahead of time to have Coronado send her a pair of FedEx packages from Michigan -- one on the day before he burned the lab down, and the other shortly afterward.
The first FedEx, according to the Sentencing Memorandum, was delivered to a woman named Maria Blanton, "a longtime PETA member who had agreed to accept the first Federal Express package from Coronado after being asked to do so by Ingrid Newkirk." The FBI intercepted the second package, which had been sent to the same address. It contained documents that Coronado stole before lighting his firebombs, as well as "a videotape of the perpetrator of the MSU crime, disguised in a ski mask." Since Coronado was convicted of the arson, we now know that he himself was that masked man. "Significantly," wrote U.S. Attorney Dettmer, "Newkirk had arranged to have the package(s) delivered to her days before the MSU arson occurred." (emphasis in the original)
A search warrant executed at Blanton's home turned up evidence that PETA's other co-founder, Alex Pacheco, had also been planning burglaries and break-ins along with Rodney Coronado. The feds seized "surveillance logs; code names for Coronado, Pacheco, and others; burglary tools; two-way radios; night vision goggles; (and) phony identification for Coronado and Pacheco."
Shortly after Coronado's arrest, PETA gave $45,200 to his "support committee" and "loaned" $25,000 to his father (the loan was never repaid and PETA hasn't complained). Now free from jail, with an expired parole, and with the benefit of an expired Statute of Limitations on his many earlier arsons (to which he readily confesses in his standard stump speech), Coronado stood before a crowd of hundreds of young people at American University in January 2003 and demonstrated how to turn a milk jug into a bomb. A few days later, ALF criminals tried to burn down a McDonald's restaurant in Chico, California, using a firebomb that matched Coronado's recipe.
The following month, Ingrid Newkirk told ABC News that Rodney Coronado is "a fine young man."
Newkirk wrote a book called Free the Animals! The Untold Story of the U.S. Animal Liberation Front and Its Founder, 'Valerie.' In it she writes: "The ALF has, over the years, trusted People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) to receive copies of the evidence of wrongdoing ... I have also become somewhat used to jumping on a plane with copies of freshly purloined documents and hurriedly calling news conferences to discuss the ALF's findings." Indeed, PETA has held such press conferences just hours after ALF arsons and other break-ins.
PETA has published a leaflet called "Animal Liberation Front: the Army of the Kind." In another pamphlet, "Activism and the Law," PETA openly offers advice on "burning a laboratory building."
"I will be the last person to condemn ALF," says Newkirk. And in another interview: "I find it small wonder that the laboratories aren't all burning to the ground. If I had more guts, I'd light a match." In ALF's publication Bite Back (yes, this terrorist group has a newsletter), Newkirk has said: "You can't have all politeness and patience, all potlucks and epistles ... Some people will never budge unless (they are) pushed to budge."
Perhaps Newkirk's most telling comment, though, came in a 2002 U.S. News & World Report feature. "Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective," she admitted. "We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works."
Good reading.
*nods* Yup, I've heard about most of those events. And as someone who works in an animal laboratory, I've been prepared always for one of their attacks, especially since I'm in the lab overnight.
If they're going to be violent in their attacks, then I'll respond in kind. They'd better beware if they dare to come here, because I fight savagely and brutally. Every day, I watch for suspicious characters, always ready to slaughter anyone who attacks.
Trust... no... one... :paranoid
dang i wish i had your job, I'd get a permit to carry around a katana, just so that i could threaten anyone trying to mess with the lab... (insert, most evil grin possible) then i'd expose lab rats to phazon
The good news is, if they do try something, and you respond with violence, they probably won't terribly mind how many humans you maim so long as you don't damage any mice in the process.
we should form a protest to PETA- a bunch of people standing outside their headquarters with knives, forks, and bibs asking if we can have the dead animals in their meat locker for a BBQ
Quote from: Toric on June 13, 2008, 08:41:21 PM
The good news is, if they do try something, and you respond with violence, they probably won't terribly mind how many humans you maim so long as you don't damage any mice in the process.
I'll use mice programmed as suicide bombers. *learn from your enemies!* >:3
After all, they already tried the bat bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb). And it woulda' worked too...if it weren't for those pesky kids and their nuclear bomb. >:3
I saw a shirt the other day that made me want to wear it just because it didn't make any sence.
It had a chick on the front that said "I am not a nugget" and it said Vegetarian on the back.
After thinking about it for a while it kinda made me grin. Nuggets aren't made out of chicks.. Too many bones and not enough meat.
Those people give animal lovers a bad name! I would kick the shit out of someone if they tried to insinuate that I supported PETA just because I love animals.
I heard about all of those events and just shook my head at how stupidly violent PETA is. But why has no one attacked PETA directly? They're pretty much a home-grown terrorist group! :<
There are a few cultures/groups/organizations that I no longer pay any attention to, for the fact that all I will accomplish is get myself pissed at how inexplicably horrible they are. One of them PETA, one is the Middle East, and another is the Westboro Baptist Church.
There's just no point in following what these people do. They are beyond reason, and giving them your attention can only help their cause.
That is true. I don't watch the news anymore because of stuff like PETA and Fred Phelps. It makes me horrified!
Quote from: Goatmon on June 15, 2008, 06:48:01 PM
There's just no point in following what these people do. They are beyond reason, and giving them your attention can only help their cause.
Which is why they must be... exterminated! And we must continue exterminating until only those I deem worthy remain! Only one in a billion will be fit to be nurtured! I shall breed pure and blessed Charlesleks! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!
*Meh, why bother wasting being serious when discussing PETA* :B