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Title: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 09:52:47 AM
Has anyone noticed furries becoming... more of stereotypical furries?

I keep having arguments with furries who're into some weird kinks, and/or like to call everyone who disagrees with them a fursecutor/troll/"poser-fur", and other crap like that that makes the fandom look bad.

Heck, a furry "forum" I'm on that I joined a year ago's starting to become bad. The regulars on there keep whining about the stupidest things. I can't even be sarcastic without some of them whining about how much of a jerk I am, even if I say I'm being sarcastic.

And I can't avoid it! Ever! I'll start talking to some furry stranger about something, and the conversation'll start out okay because we like a few of the same things or have the same opinions about something, but if I disagree about one thing, which is most likely something stupid like if I like dogs or not, it turns into an argument, and I'm a fursecutor! I didn't even know they used that word anymore!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Rakala on March 27, 2008, 10:03:39 AM
I wish I could shed some light on the situation, but I honestly have no clue. I haven't seen anything you're talking about, just heard of it. Maybe it's just the places you go but there's no way to tell. However you must remember in every fandom there are people who make it look bad. Sorry if this doesn't help but that's all I've got to say at this point.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 27, 2008, 10:10:00 AM
Neither have I, but I don't frequent those places. I'd never heard the word 'fursecutor' before, techically I still haven't, I've only seen it written here.

Maybe it's just that other forum you've mentioned, or maybe it's a 'hardcore furry' thing, if that term even exists.

Sorry I can't be of much help, I'm afraid I'm either as non-furry as a furry can get, or as furry as a non-furry can get.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
I don't think it's a "just on this one forum" thing. 'Cuz I've seen it on -other- furry sites, and even on Furcadia.

Maybe you guys are just lucky enough to not see this stuff. D:< Or I am a whiny-furry magnet.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 27, 2008, 10:25:15 AM
Oh I've seen it on Furcadia, being a victim of it myself in the past.  Since then I've learned to just grow some thick skin and implement a ban and ignore on my dream.

I have a buddy who seems to be going through a similar situation.  He's got AS and has quite the dysfunctional family.  But it seems that every fur that he gets to talking to eventually just goes completely wacko on him.  Sometimes it's his fault because he doesn't know that some things just shouldn't be said (and then he doesn't understand why they get mad, but that's the AS), but other times it's just completely baffling behaviour on the part of the people he talks to, and that confuses him even more.

In any case, I think there are mostly insecurity, or even flat out paranoia issues in the community stemming from all the "fursecution" from other groups, where it's been done so much that people "see" it coming from within their own community.  I don't think there's much that can be done about it.  Yeah it does make us all look bad, but it is becoming harder to find genuinely good people in the furry community, or any community for that matter... good people are a minority these days.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 10:30:35 AM
We seem to have a fair slice of good people here.

Maybe we're just requiring decent behaviour from the top down or something?
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 27, 2008, 10:32:03 AM
That and the admins actually make fair decisions instead of being nazi's.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 10:38:39 AM
Heh heh, I used to like to find those people just so I could tell them that I mean everything I say.  But I'm too busy now to be bothered with long visits to forums.  Heck, this forum alone is pretty much all I can manage.

The emo people on those places are pretty much pathetic in their entire lives; insecure losers with absolutely nothing going for them because they're too much of a bunch of whiney half-wits to get their act together and do something useful.  They have no concept of the real world, where no one actually gives a crap about your self-esteem and people lurk around every corner just waiting for something they can use against you to increase their own standing.

In my day, I mentally destroyed several who were just over the top absurdly whiney.  It was delightful, though not much of a challange.  Crushing their mentality was about as tough as squeezing a marshmallow.  Not much resistance to go through, ya know?

PS:  I'm a weirdo.  But I can handle it!  *Eats foxes OM NOM NOM*   >:]
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 10:58:23 AM
well, a topic i can rant about  >:3

i've noticed a huge downward spiral in the social sructure of the furry fandome and it's almost insulting how low everyone, including some long-time furrs, have gone.  it could be a massive negative "ripple" derived from the pressures of being a fur driving those in the fandom into self loathing and outright spite.   (see: CSI- extreme negative steryotype and bad example of the fandom)
I think it's just poor marketing and new furs given the wrong impression of what it means to be a fur.  Try to have an intelligent conversation with a couple of furs who think sex and yiffing and sex are the highlights of the fandom...downright annoying  :sweatdrop   Anyone who claims to be a fur and doesn't talk about sex and only sex is excluded and segregated from the growing decay that is the new majority of want-to-be furs. 
Furries ned to be reminded of what it means to be a fur and get back to a level of self respect that once exested among known artists, authors, and good hearted furs.  Anyone who became a furry ONLY for the kinks and nonstop yiffing is not a furry in my eyes >:[
it's best just to leave the degenerates to their own cliques and keep above the rising tide of rot and hate that humanity is known for.   :)
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 11:05:30 AM
And that's why I love this forum. There's no insane people (Insane in the bad way, of course. :P) and even if some joined, they'd probably get banned 5 seconds after going nuts.

Don't worry, Alondro, we're all weird here. :)

Quote from: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 10:58:23 AM
well, a topic i can rant about  >:3

i've noticed a huge downward spiral in the social sructure of the furry fandome and it's almost insulting how low everyone, including some long-time furrs, have gone.  it could be a massive negative "ripple" derived from the pressures of being a fur driving those in the fandom into self loathing and outright spite.   (see: CSI- extreme negative steryotype and bad example of the fandom)
I think it's just poor marketing and new furs given the wrong impression of what it means to be a fur.  Try to have an intelligent conversation with a couple of furs who think sex and yiffing and sex are the highlights of the fandom...downright annoying  :sweatdrop   Anyone who claims to be a fur and doesn't talk about sex and only sex is excluded and segregated from the growing decay that is the new majority of want-to-be furs. 
Furries ned to be reminded of what it means to be a fur and get back to a level of self respect that once exested among known artists, authors, and good hearted furs.  Anyone who became a furry ONLY for the kinks and nonstop yiffing is not a furry in my eyes >:[
it's best just to leave the degenerates to their own cliques and keep above the rising tide of rot and hate that humanity is known for.   :)
Yeah, I tend to get in fights with a few of the "WE'RE ALL ABOUT TEH SEX AND KINKS" "furries". They'll talk to me and act all friendly and sane, and they'll randomly ask what my fetishes are, and when I say I don't have any, THEY LOSE IT!

God forbid someone isn't turned on by feet or anything weird! That's just crazy.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Feet are the least of my worries where most of the psychos i've spoken with come into play.  I've heard of kinks that i'm sure weren't supposed to exist or even be physically possible.  Most of them admit, though, that they join the fandom just for the excuse and the right to instant acceptance.
"hey, what's with the sick kinks, yo?"
"oh, i'm a furry, it's ok :)"
IT IS NOT OK!!! :tantrum

Occasionaly i meet a good natured and honest fur that enjoys the self expression the fandom offers, but it's annoyingly obvious that those people are dissapearing and the morons are taking over.

bite 'em all, i will >.>
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 27, 2008, 11:19:45 AM
If it's not that, it's the ones who think the entire community is populated with bisexuals or homosexuals.  There was one guy (who actually turned out to be from my area) who just flat out asked me "so are you gay or bi?"  He was honestly surprised when I said "neither, I'm straight".  He couldn't believe that there are actually straight people in the furry community.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 11:23:18 AM
Yes, the good people are disappearing. :< I find it sad that one or two people I know that used to be on here are on the bad side now.  :cry

I'm kind of surprised I don't see any furry ear sex. :B I've seen like one. I thought that them seeing it on Family Guy (Well, hearing about it, since they don't actually show you) would make them want to draw it more.

RYUDO ARE YOU GAY OR BI JUST ASKIN'

I hate that too. :c The ones who actually figure out that I'm a girl and not just a girl pretending to be a guy, they ask me if I'm bisexual. Like there's a "FEMALE FURRIES CAN ONLY BE BISEXUAL OR LESBIAN" rule too.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Dak on March 27, 2008, 11:05:30 AM
Yeah, I tend to get in fights with a few of the "WE'RE ALL ABOUT TEH SEX AND KINKS" "furries". They'll talk to me and act all friendly and sane, and they'll randomly ask what my fetishes are, and when I say I don't have any, THEY LOSE IT!

Everyone has a fetish.

It's just, many have a fetish for something so inane and bland that nobody believes it.

eg, my fetish for sorting my cd's alphabetically by artist, or books alphabetically, or in Dewey. It's a fetish, but I'm not gonna get off on it, and nobody else is gonna look at me and go "ooo, you sick freak", so it doesn't count. *shrug*

In which case, it's their problem, not mine.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
Well, I guess that's true. Since a lot of people I know IRL think I have a dragon fetish.

I don't get off to dragons. :P I just really really like them. A LOT. I swear!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 27, 2008, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 11:24:39 AM
eg, my fetish for sorting my cd's alphabetically by artist, or books alphabetically, or in Dewey. It's a fetish, but I'm not gonna get off on it, and nobody else is gonna look at me and go "ooo, you sick freak", so it doesn't count. *shrug*

That's not a fetish llearch.  That's borderline OCD.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sunblink on March 27, 2008, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 10:30:35 AM
We seem to have a fair slice of good people here.

Maybe we're just requiring decent behaviour from the top down or something?

That seems about right to me.

I'm afraid I'm about as knowledgeable in this area as... well, someone who isn't very knowledgeable. I'm not a hardcore furry, not by any stretch of the imagination. It also irritates the piss out of me when people start shouting "fursecution!", or start comparing their plight to historical examples of actual persecution.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 27, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
bwuh?  "fursecute?"  as in, to be persecuted for being a furry?

That's just stupid.  Being a Furry's a choice.  Like being an Otaku or a gamer.  You can't be persecuted for making a lifestyle choice, can you?

Saying all furries are into freaky sex is like saying all otaku are lolicons, or all gamers are homicidal maniacs-- oh wait... :U

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 11:24:39 AM
Everyone has a fetish.

Did I ever mention that I rarely have much money to spare, due to anime and blank books?

I love blank books!  Now if I could just figure out what to fill them with.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Cogidubnus on March 27, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
I think we had a similar conversation on this board about a year ago, concerning the topic of babyfurs, and how generally they can make one wonder what that really has to do with anthropomorphic animals. I can't quite remember the whole thing now.

I've heard a thousand differing definitions of the word 'furry', some broader than others. Some people seem to define the fandom by sex, while others seem to consider that smaller than the fandom as a whole. I do know that I don't meet a lot of the popular criteria for being a 'furry'. In some ways, I would hesitate to call myself a 'furry', as the word is loaded with more meanings than I'd care to ascribe to myself.

As in all things, people are people are people. Sterotypes are the language of hate, the more you know, etc etc. In my stay in this forum alone I've met all sorts, and most definitely, not every self-described 'furry' is either obsessed with sex, or thinks that's what the fandom is all about.
People who do see the fandom as all about sex, I think, might be imagining a somewhat smaller fandom than the rest of us.

So, get to know what people think, before you apply a definition.

Except Bill. He's an asshole.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
bwuh?  "fursecute?"  as in, to be persecuted for being a furry?
Yep.

QuoteThat's just stupid.  Being a Furry's a choice.  Like being an Otaku or a gamer.  You can't be persecuted for making a lifestyle choice, can you?
No, but some furries seem to think they can. If you're being made fun of, either ignore it or stop being what you are. Don't keep whining about it for attention.

Quote from: Cogidubnus on March 27, 2008, 12:07:41 PMI've heard a thousand differing definitions of the word 'furry', some broader than others. Some people seem to define the fandom by sex, while others seem to consider that smaller than the fandom as a whole. I do know that I don't meet a lot of the popular criteria for being a 'furry'. In some ways, I would hesitate to call myself a 'furry', as the word is loaded with more meanings than I'd care to ascribe to myself.
And many other furries feel that way too. Hell, I'm starting to want to just quit the fandom so people'll stop asking me about fetishes and crap, but I like my fursona too much. :< And I'll get kicked out of the furry forum I'm on and I'll have nothing drama-y to read when I'm bored.

QuoteAs in all things, people are people are people. Sterotypes are the language of hate, the more you know, etc etc. In my stay in this forum alone I've met all sorts, and most definitely, not every self-described 'furry' is either obsessed with sex, or thinks that's what the fandom is all about.
People who do see the fandom as all about sex, I think, might be imagining a somewhat smaller fandom than the rest of us.
That's 'cuz here, the people are sane, and crazy fetishists would probably get banned on the spot if they tried to join.

QuoteSo, get to know what people think, before you apply a definition.
But that means you'll have to work. That's way too hard.

QuoteExcept Bill. He's an asshole.
Silly Cog, everyone knows that! Bill is an asshole, the sky is blue, and no one likes babyfurs.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on March 27, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
People who do see the fandom as all about sex, I think, might be imagining a somewhat smaller fandom than the rest of us.

Possibly. On the other hand, even "normal" people think about sex a lot. So I don't see it as being any different; it's just some of us are willing to admit it.

Mmm. boobies... ;-]

Quote from: Dak on March 27, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
That's 'cuz here, the people are sane, and crazy fetishists would probably get banned on the spot if they tried to join.

Of course not.

On the other hand, we -do- expect them to follow the same rules as anyone else. And will ban them for breaching the rules, as we would anyone else.

"Special treatment? Sure, I'll treat you like you're special. Go ride the short bus, and stop bothering me." ;-]
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Omega on March 27, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
 xD
Oh man. Not being a furry myself, this might come from a wrong person, but bear with me.

*ahem*

Society creates people and people create societies. Furries are a society without nationalities, laws, flag (we can argue about that later) or some other solid icon slash holy relic that would bound them together into a dangerous cult. This gives this society a great freedom, for it can recruit members from almost limitless reserve and practically anyone can join. This means that all kinds of personalities can and have done so.

No one is born as a furry, and god help me who dares to start arguing with me about this, so there is really no standards who can become a furry. It's not a birth gift. Unlike in Nazi-Germany, where few people got this idea that their kin was the elite and rest were just crap and crappier crap, furries don't have this quality control over who can claim to be a furry who can't. So it's a free society, baby, and there's nothing you can do about it.

You cannot say that these people you don't like are not furries, because they have everyright to claim part of this free society as you. Define "a furry" as you will, but so will the others and Webster agrees with those dim people, I'm afraid. You'll just have to bite your tail and deal with it, alright? Yes, yes, there are many-many definitions of what is furry, but the more there are, the better middle ground we get.

As I said before, I am not a genuine furry, not even a closet furry.
"Come on. You can tell us"
No, really. I did give it a shot, but my intrest died out when I was trying to think what animal I wanted to be. But since I had already met few nice people, I didn't give up on furry society that easily and found out that I enjoyed the company of randomly hugging random people. Not the hugging that much, but the idea made me feel a bit warmer inside and it was a good medicine against the cynicism of this world. Plus, when people were acting stupid, I felt much smarter, hence givin' me an occasional boost to me ego, which was nice. What I'm trying to say here, is that I may not have enough background information to build a compleat picture of the current situation, then again who does?, but enough to draw the general idea of what's the barrel of tomatoes around here and there.

A one solution that history has shown to us, is that you start fragmenting your society. If you don't like how your fellow furry acts and you believe that he/she/it is giving a bad name for you and few of your buddies, isolate your own society and declare your own name/colors. Come up with some sort of crazy name (such as neo-furries or furrAceses or whatever sounds cool to you and draw a clear line between you and them. Hell, it worked with the church. Just look at them now, spawning like mushrooms on a rainy day.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 27, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Persecution over lifestyle choices is quite common either. Up there with religious and political/ideological persecutions, which also go against what people choose. And as sad as all other kinds of persecution, I'd say.

Cog, I love the way you write. :) And I agree with what you've said.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Brunhidden on March 27, 2008, 01:08:01 PM
DMFA- the community for furries who hate furries
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 27, 2008, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 27, 2008, 01:08:01 PM
DMFA- the community for furries who hate furries
Self hating? No, thanks. I wouldn't like it to become anything like that. It's been a great community so far.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
Babyfurs are retards and cub porn is all about poorly disguised pedos.

Nuff said!

>:3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zina on March 27, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
The furry fandom is a fandom based around sex. People can try to say different, and yes, there are some people who are not into that, but by and large furry is a incredibly sexual fandom.

Furries don't want to be known as sexual deviants. They want to pretend that the CSI episode is wrong, that SA and  4chan are wrong, that MTV is wrong. But honestly, take a step back and look at the fandom as a whole. You'll realize that the image MTV and CSI and all the anti-furry trolls have is very close to the image furry projects. Go to a furry art gallery. You'll probably find more porn there than clean images. The most popular furries in the fandom? Draw porn. Image boards for furries? Filled with porn. Furaffinity was created because Sheezyart stopped allowing porn. Nevermind the fact that there are fetishes within the fandom that I've never heard of outside of it.

Furries want to complain that they are stereotyped and get a bad rap, but in reality, that's the rap they give themselves.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
Meh, the world as a whole is obsessed with sex, they're just looking for the ones who're the most different from the majority to pick on.

Most high school girls now can't even keep track of all the boys they've been boinkin.

So furry right now is in the in-between period of mockery and eventually pop culture going, 'Wait a sec... sex all the time?  With hot catgirls and kitsune?  Hell yeah!  I want me sommah dat!"

If anything, only strictly moral Christians, Jews, and a few others shy away from sex altogether.  And even then, you can never be sure what they're doing behind closed doors.

People can have their fantasies and stuff.  Just as long as they keep it fantasy.  Being perveted is one thing, tying people up in the basement is another.

Only thing is, once furry becomes mainstream, what'll people make fun of?  It'll have to start over again.  Hmmm, making fun of the Huns?  They're not mainstream!  Let's get em!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 27, 2008, 02:19:36 PM
When you get right down to it, all communities are viewed badly by somebody out there.  It seems like everyone has a license to persecute one group or another, but then when the tables are turned, well... then it becomes a real issue, at least to someone.

And I think that Zina is mostly right.  The majority of furs in the community are in it for the porn.  But there is a minority of us who really are in it just for the roleplaying or social opportunities.

... but it doesn't hurt to make a mint selling porn to the rest of them. :P
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 02:31:36 PM
well, most of what has been said is true.  the fandom lost control of it's image (if it had one) long ago and it's taken on a style of its own.  humans are beings born of lust and greed and as such we crave sex and things of value (see: porn!)
the fandom lured me in, not with the promise of booty, yo, but with with the ability to be expressive and push the boundaries of my humanity without fear of isolation and resentment.  the "new" and more questionable kinks and fetishes that have appeared within the last few years have been the result of darker and more twisted individuals testing the limits and pushing the boundaries of what can be considered "acceptable". (see: cub/babyfur...no peds here >.>)

a lot of authors and artists do draw a lot of porn, but mostly out of the ability to do so and do so with appreciation.  if this kind of art and genre were publicly cast out and protested with enough enthusiasm, those authors and artists would tone down their art and hesitate to publish what they write.

it's a give and take pseudo-society that the furry world has developed.  you give a little and then you can take a little.  the problem now is, in my eyes, when is it too much?  how much can be taken before it falls apart completely?  How far will it go before the soccer mom's of the world ban the word "furry" from the dictionary to protect their children from the deviants thriving online and next door?

this whole mess makes me want to bite something, hard  >(
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 02:35:20 PM
It's all very simple.  We burn all the babyfurs and cub porn perveyors at the stake!  Then we can be declared an twisted religious cult.

But at least then we'll have tax-free status like Scientology!

Eh, it's not gonna matter in a year or so after the economy collapses and the whole world is thrown into chaos.   >:3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 02:44:13 PM
MMMmmm, chaos and cookies!!
chocolate chip, please  :)

i think that's what most of the dark_twist (people who are twisted and destructive in a dark and frightening way) want.  all that attention over being something they were told and now think of as "taboo".  Most of them want a scandal and a scene and moving against them will give them the opening to do just that.

as for the economy...let's leave that to G. Bush   :B
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Omega on March 27, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f3/Furryfucks.jpg)

I can relate myself with number 11, 13, 14 and 15. On Sundays with 5 too.

Oh? A too big image? Check a better version from here (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f3/Furryfucks.jpg)
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on March 27, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
I think that pretty much sums it up, right there. :D  Let's call it a day, shall we?
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 02:50:19 PM
side note:  fursuits scare the crap out of me O.O

i have to say, that pic summarizes the many facets of furry society well,but not quite sure where i fit into that :P
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 27, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Nice description, Omega! Except... I can't relate to any of them.

And Zina, there's a wide gap between those who love porn and all the possible kinks in existence and those who avoid sex altogether. I believe the majority of the people are quite far from both extremes.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 27, 2008, 03:14:45 PM
Could just say you've got a chastity fetish.

"I'm turned on by not having sex."

The especially hardcore can claim a celibacy fetish.

"I'm turned on by the idea of dieing a virgin." :mwaha
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zina on March 27, 2008, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Gabi on March 27, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Nice description, Omega! Except... I can't relate to any of them.

And Zina, there's a wide gap between those who love porn and all the possible kinks in existence and those who avoid sex altogether. I believe the majority of the people are quite far from both extremes.

I never said there are people here who "avoid sex all together", I said there are people who "are not into" the sexual aspects of furry. People who are apart of the fandom for other reasons. That's all.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: thegayhare on March 27, 2008, 03:40:16 PM
I think most furries are actualy in the middle.

I'll freely admit I'm a perv,  I like lacing my posts with sexual inuendo on occasion (and I know I'm not the only one here)  I also do like furry porn.  But I like other aspects of the fandom I olve seeing the costumes, meeting new people and giving them cookies. 

Lets look at my general AC run

last year I bought
3 naughty comics
2 nuaghty dvd's of art
and I think 2 naughty prints.

I bought 4 clean comics (ISO'S actualy)
one clean book
I bid on 5 clean pieces of art (won one)
paid for a number of clean scketches
A plush elk for my sister
and a spider puppet for me.  there were also micelanous buttons and little things too

so all in all I think my intrests were evenly placed

Yes there is a lot of sexual material in the fandom but there is that to a greater or lesser extent in any fandom.  While I haven't been to a starwars or startreck con I've seen enough porn from each fandom online to know they have there pervs too.

It's a sad fact that sex sells
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on March 27, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
I think that pretty much sums it up, right there. :D  Let's call it a day, shall we?

It's missing square #17, which would be Charline's quote "I'm here to eat everyone in the previous squares."   >:3

And it needs a square for the macros:  "I'm weak and puny and get wedgies all the time, so I pretend to be huge and destructive to act out my feelings of unrequieted rage."   >:3

And the ones who opt for surgery:  "LOOK AT ME!!  I'M REALLY A FURRY NOW!"

And yet another square for the FBI infiltrators:  "We're here just waiting for the word from the Masonic Temple to eliminate them all!   :O
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
I don't have a square on that board  :C
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Kenji on March 27, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
I find that offensive against furries.
Ban! D:<
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
I support things offensive to furries


not banning, making admin, welcome to the team Omega!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Omega on March 27, 2008, 04:35:49 PM
Hooray! Finally my hard work pays off. Now to rule this forum with my iron fist oh happines and rainbows!  :mwaha
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 04:49:05 PM
Haw, I'm 11, 13, and sometimes 5 on that pic.

Quote from: BillBuckner on March 27, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
I don't have a square on that board  :C
That's 'cuz you're not a furry, Bill. You're Bill. And an asshole. I thought you knew that.

Did you forget again? You know what happens when you forget things, Bill. Right? Or did you forget that again too?
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 04:55:21 PM
I forgot, can we go to the flowchart again?
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
Nope, you're going straight to the box.

*Locks Bill inside Llearch*

That'll learn you.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zedd on March 27, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
*thinks abit and gives Dak Cog Omega a gold star for this* Nuff said...
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: thegayhare on March 27, 2008, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: Dak on March 27, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
Nope, you're going straight to the box.

*Locks Bill inside Llearch*

That'll learn you.

Hey take him out of there right now...

Thats where I keep my porn
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 05:35:54 PM
This porn is terrible.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zina on March 27, 2008, 05:51:25 PM
Here you go, Bill. I made you a rectangle.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Zinacat/Furryfucksbill.jpg)

I didn't know what you looked like, so I made you into a viking! :3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 06:12:43 PM
How did you know that I was a viking
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 27, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
She's stalking you, Bill.

Watch out, she thinks she's a cat!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zina on March 27, 2008, 06:19:25 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on March 27, 2008, 06:12:43 PM
How did you know that I was a viking

I occured to me when you were raping and pillageing that village a few days ago.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 06:26:19 PM
Come on, the village was asking for it, dressed like a skank in that part of town. Deal with it, I say!
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Zina on March 27, 2008, 06:31:20 PM
Well I hope you're willing to pay child support. :C
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 27, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
Hey, screw him, I've got mine. Bootstraps.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Joe3210 on March 27, 2008, 07:15:25 PM
Everytime I read a furry topic on a forum I frequent, I die a little on the inside. :zombiekun2
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 27, 2008, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: Joe3210 on March 27, 2008, 07:15:25 PM
Everytime I read a furry topic on a forum I frequent, I die a little on the inside. :zombiekun2
They usually seem to end in tears.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sunblink on March 27, 2008, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 27, 2008, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: Joe3210 on March 27, 2008, 07:15:25 PM
Everytime I read a furry topic on a forum I frequent, I die a little on the inside. :zombiekun2
They usually seem to end in tears.

Absolutely. I'm crying right now.

Crying with laughter.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 27, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on March 27, 2008, 05:31:31 PM
Hey take him out of there right now...

Thats where I keep my porn

... I wondered why people kept looking at me strangely...
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Jigsaw Forte on March 27, 2008, 07:52:50 PM
I just told my dad it was like Anime, but with animals and such. This seems to answer everything pretty neatly (and also circumvents those sexual elements nicely because everyone already knows Anime is pretty fucked up sometimes)

Course, I also avoid drawing the pr0n.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 27, 2008, 10:31:29 PM
Come to think of it, I think my parents actually take the furries even more in-stride than the anime.  In fact, the reason I consider myself a wolf is thanks to my mom.

I do not consider myself a furry, as such, though.  A fan, yes, but not a participant.(said the guy who considers himself a werewolf.)
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 27, 2008, 11:49:13 PM
Quote from: Dak on March 27, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
She's stalking you, Bill.

Watch out, she thinks she's a cat!

Zina is a cat!  Or will be soon enough... I plan to test my new Mega Splice Gene Juice on her first!   :mwaha
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Shadrok on March 28, 2008, 02:00:01 AM
Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
bwuh?  "fursecute?"  as in, to be persecuted for being a furry?

You know every time I hear the word "fursecute" it makes me think it means someone tasering a fursuiter.



Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 10:31:29 PM
Come to think of it, I think my parents actually take the furries even more in-stride than the anime.  In fact, the reason I consider myself a wolf is thanks to my mom.

That's kind of the way it is with my parents only they see my furry characters as toons not furs, but that could be Disney and WB related issue too.



Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 10:31:29 PM
I do not consider myself a furry, as such, though.  A fan, yes, but not a participant.(said the guy who considers himself a werewolf.)

Funny you should meantion werewolfs. I grew up with my dad saying he was one, long before we found out that on his coat of arms there's a white wolf. (says the guy who can't sleep on nights of a full moon.)
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Brunhidden on March 28, 2008, 02:20:46 AM
that almost ventures into the realm of the theri
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Valynth on March 28, 2008, 02:23:30 AM
Quote from: Shadrok on March 28, 2008, 02:00:01 AM
Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
bwuh?  "fursecute?"  as in, to be persecuted for being a furry?

You know every time I hear the word "fursecute" it makes me think it means someone tasering a fursuiter.


"Don't rub against me bro?"
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Joe3210 on March 28, 2008, 06:22:50 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 27, 2008, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: Joe3210 on March 27, 2008, 07:15:25 PM
Everytime I read a furry topic on a forum I frequent, I die a little on the inside. :zombiekun2
They usually seem to end in tears.
As always before a mod finally locks the thread.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: Shadrok on March 28, 2008, 02:00:01 AM
Quote from: Volfram on March 27, 2008, 10:31:29 PM
Come to think of it, I think my parents actually take the furries even more in-stride than the anime.  In fact, the reason I consider myself a wolf is thanks to my mom.

That's kind of the way it is with my parents only they see my furry characters as toons not furs, but that could be Disney and WB related issue too.

I once had a picture of Ryudo up on my desktop (it was this one (http://megaraichu.tripod.com/dth/ryu_rei.jpg), but now it's a Metroid).  My dad asked me what it was and I explained that it was a character I roleplay as.  Since he knows I do a lot of the D&D thing, he accepted that.  No harm, no foul.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 28, 2008, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
I once had a picture of Ryudo up on my desktop (it was this one (http://megaraichu.tripod.com/dth/ryu_rei.jpg), but now it's a Metroid). 

I'd have been interested to see that, but Tripod doesn't seem to like direct links so it isn't showing.  You may have to put up a simple page to display it or something...
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 28, 2008, 09:49:23 AM
No one in my family dares question me, cuz I pay a major portion of the bills.  Money IS power!   >:3

Actually, only my Dad really has any problem with it... but as I mentioned, he's been unemployed for 2 1/2 years and is a NASCAR fan.  No brain at all... nuthin... none... zip... zero... el-zilcho... natta... niet... And he keeps wasting time on his friend's boat and playing solitare on the computer... my god, it's like I'm the actual 'father' and he's the spoiled lazy-ass college kid!  He won't even brush his teeth properly or floss... the dental bills alone...  rrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!   :boom

Hey, you'd be pissed at your father too if you had to keep paying a huge portion of your parents' debts for the past 8 years!

Uhm... anyway, furry is all about gey secks wif human-aminul hybrid kimarik myootants.  Yup.   :B
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 11:28:58 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 28, 2008, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
I once had a picture of Ryudo up on my desktop (it was this one (http://megaraichu.tripod.com/dth/ryu_rei.jpg), but now it's a Metroid). 

I'd have been interested to see that, but Tripod doesn't seem to like direct links so it isn't showing.  You may have to put up a simple page to display it or something...

Bah, stupid Tripod.  I'd host my own website if I could afford the electricity bill.  The main site with all the pictures of Ryudo on it is here (http://megaraichu.tripod.com/dth/ryudo_profile.html).  The profile is waaaaay out of date.  The image I was referencing is the one by Masurei.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 28, 2008, 11:49:33 AM
You could always use Photobucket for images, Ryudo. :P Or use another site instead of Tripod. It's not like every free host is a piece of crap.

I like how we go off-topic here. :> The furries on the other forum I go on go off-topic too, but at least you guys can have an intelligent conversation, instead of talking about furry porn or drama, even when the topic's not even about furries.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 28, 2008, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 28, 2008, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
I once had a picture of Ryudo up on my desktop (it was this one (http://megaraichu.tripod.com/dth/ryu_rei.jpg), but now it's a Metroid). 

I'd have been interested to see that, but Tripod doesn't seem to like direct links so it isn't showing.  You may have to put up a simple page to display it or something...

It doesn't like the referrer tag. Copy the link and paste it into a new tab, and you're golden.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 28, 2008, 12:50:13 PM
And here I thought his fursona was a blue circle, a green circle, and the word Tripod.

This makes a lot more sense, now! :B
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on March 28, 2008, 01:00:49 PM
Quote from: Dak on March 28, 2008, 11:49:33 AMThe furries on the other forum I go on go off-topic too, but at least you guys can have an intelligent conversation, instead of talking about furry porn or drama, even when the topic's not even about furries.

I'm totally down with talking about furry porn. :3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 28, 2008, 01:13:27 PM
Well, I don't care for porn. I'm here for the friends and the art. It doesn't really make a difference whether anthropomorphic animals are involved or not, not to mention there isn't even a word for 'furry' in my language that I know of. Maybe I'm not a furry after all.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 28, 2008, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Gabi on March 28, 2008, 01:13:27 PM
Well, I don't care for porn. I'm here for the friends and the art. It doesn't really make a difference whether anthropomorphic animals are involved or not, not to mention there isn't even a word for 'furry' in my language that I know of. Maybe I'm not a furry after all.

What do you call the fur on animals?  Just attach a 'y' on the end of it, and there's the word for furry!  That always works.   :3

PS:  The Internet is for porn.   >:3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 28, 2008, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Alondro on March 28, 2008, 01:23:01 PM
What do you call the fur on animals?  Just attach a 'y' on the end of it, and there's the word for furry!  That always works.   :3
You're such a fury.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 28, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
Fucking furies.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on March 28, 2008, 01:44:37 PM
Quote from: Volfram on March 28, 2008, 12:50:13 PM
And here I thought his fursona was a blue circle, a green circle, and the word Tripod.

This makes a lot more sense, now! :B

Totally.  An anthropomorphic Tripod logo.  Someone must draw that.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on March 28, 2008, 02:04:47 PM
Rule 34.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 28, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 28, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
Fucking furies.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Omega on March 28, 2008, 05:38:55 PM
I love this place  :3
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Suwako on March 28, 2008, 05:46:33 PM
You are encouraging him  :< Seriously, furries, pfff.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Eibborn on March 28, 2008, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 10:58:23 AM
want-to-be furs. 
Hahaha what. I swear to god, there is nothing that makes me facepalm like people in a subculture proclaiming that other people aren't real emos / indies/ hipsters/ furries/ whatever. YOU ARE SUPERIOR, sir.
They're just as 'furry' as you are, bucko. Just a different variety.

For the record, I want to die any time anyone says anything like 'fursicution' on a forum I'm on.
...And yes, I know I'm guilty some years ago of 'fursona.' WTF, past self. WTF.

For the record, dabbled in furry- did crappy newbie art, roleplayed one, that stuff. Still draw my old character occasionally.
Now, I'm content to represent myself on the internet, rather than have a furry persona do so.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Sufurin Scorda on March 28, 2008, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: Eibbor_N on March 28, 2008, 09:02:23 PM
For the record, dabbled in furry- did crappy newbie art, roleplayed one, that stuff. Still draw my old character occasionally.
Now, I'm content to represent myself on the internet, rather than have a furry persona do so.
you just think your better then us eibbor your dumb

fursecutiooooooooon

:P
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on March 28, 2008, 10:07:47 PM
I never had a fursona...

Alondro was the nice lion friend, royal lineage and all that.

Then Charline came...  and the abuse started...

But I keep going back to her... I don't know why.  She beats and eats me, but I just keep going back!   Alondro says I should leave her, but I can't.  :<

*Charles is in a classic abusive relationship scenario with his imaginary characters, yes.  He's being fursecuted by his own creation!*   :U

I also like to grow lettuce.  :B
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on March 28, 2008, 10:28:25 PM
Dakata has encouraged me to start fursecuting peeps. :U  But I had some lulz, too, so it's all good. :>
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 28, 2008, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: Eibbor_N on March 28, 2008, 09:02:23 PM
For the record, I want to die any time...

ah-ah.  No idiot ever won a war by dieing for his country.  You win by making the other idiot die for his country.

I'm not afraid to die for my cause, but I much prefer killing for it.

After all, which is worth more?  The life of one Eibbor_N, or the lives of a few dozen emos and perverts?  Seriously.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: bill on March 29, 2008, 12:16:23 AM
I'm my own fursona. Wrap your heads around that, mundanes
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Suwako on March 29, 2008, 04:26:25 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on March 29, 2008, 12:16:23 AM
I'm my own fursona. Wrap your heads around that, mundanes
wow, You do have a back hair problem! and ontop of that going by this reply you seem to have hair problems everywhere... eeeewwwwhhh!  :U
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Brunhidden on March 29, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
i haven't a clue what i am, or why i am here

to be honest i was just looking for the bathroom
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Gabi on March 29, 2008, 12:13:44 PM
Quote from: Eibbor_N on March 28, 2008, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: blood butterfly on March 27, 2008, 10:58:23 AM
want-to-be furs. 
Hahaha what. I swear to god, there is nothing that makes me facepalm like people in a subculture proclaiming that other people aren't real emos / indies/ hipsters/ furries/ whatever. YOU ARE SUPERIOR, sir.
They're just as 'furry' as you are, bucko. Just a different variety.

For the record, I want to die any time anyone says anything like 'fursicution' on a forum I'm on.
...And yes, I know I'm guilty some years ago of 'fursona.' WTF, past self. WTF.

For the record, dabbled in furry- did crappy newbie art, roleplayed one, that stuff. Still draw my old character occasionally.
Now, I'm content to represent myself on the internet, rather than have a furry persona do so.
There's nothing wrong with roleplaying, Eibbor. It's only bad if you can't tell the world you live in from the world your imagination made up, or if you can't tell yourself apart from your character.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Eibborn on March 29, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
Oh, no! I would never intend to send a message against roleplaying. I'm currently actually in several, on different sites. Quite honestly, if I were interested in a roleplay that was only open to furry characters I wouldn't hesitate to join.
Likewise, there's nothing wrong with drawing or enjoying furry art or anything like that!

Quote from: Eibbor_N on March 28, 2008, 09:02:23 PM
Now, I'm content to represent myself on the internet, rather than have a furry persona do so.
Aaand it occurs to me that this looks like I'm putting myself above people with online personas. I didn't mean that! My online persona is just bizarro-me; more coherent, funny and intelligent
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Omega on March 29, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 29, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
i haven't a clue what i am, or why i am here

to be honest i was just looking for the bathroom
I thought this was the line to the rollercoaster.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 29, 2008, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Omega on March 29, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 29, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
to be honest i was just looking for the bathroom
I thought this was the line to the rollercoaster.

Little of column A, little of column B...
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Kenji on March 29, 2008, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 29, 2008, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Omega on March 29, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 29, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
to be honest i was just looking for the bathroom
I thought this was the line to the rollercoaster.

Little of column A, little of column B...

Ah, so one of those people who can't take a loop de loop without a little accident? ;P
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fuyudenki on March 29, 2008, 11:40:03 PM
I think Llearch means this line is for the roller coaster with indoor plumbing.

He's an admin.  He should have a clue what's going on here, or at least be able to fake it if he doesn't.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: blood butterfly on March 30, 2008, 05:40:58 AM
oh, he knows what's going down up in here.
he's gonna wait till you let your guard down, then he'll attack!!  boxes are nuts that way, yo.   :erk
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Fragmaster01 on April 02, 2008, 09:19:35 AM
Random thoughts about the "furry community acting more like stereotypical furs" thing that everyone forgot several pages ago!

In general, I've also seen an increase of the nicer furries or anthro artists(I don't have a fursona, I don't draw porn, I just draw clean anthro art) declaring that they are not furries, and refusing to mix with the fandom as a whole. From several furries and anthro artists I've talked to, their answers have all been the same: the furries in the fandom that everyone sees as the "mainstream" part are scaring the nicer ones away. The general view of the ones who have "left" the fandom is that the obligatory dumbasses in the group are becoming more and more pervasive, and they don't want to hang out with/be associated with the bizarre fetishists/hardcore porn artists.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Alondro on April 02, 2008, 09:44:09 AM
Pfft, I don't run.

I make a list of the stupid ones.  They will be the first used for experiments in the New Order.   :mwaha
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on April 02, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Alondro on April 02, 2008, 09:44:09 AM
Pfft, I don't run.

I make a list of the stupid ones.  They will be the first used for experiments in the New Order.   :mwaha

Then you probably need the current ban list.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 11:10:23 AM
An odd story, while i was at a school outing sort of thing, i met a furry. Here's me thinking i was the only Aberdonian DMFA fan, and all of a sudden one ends up in my face.
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 02, 2008, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on April 02, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
Then you probably need the current ban list.

That's not the stupid people, that's the people who have annoyed the moderators.

Often the same people, but not the same list. ;-]
Title: Re: Furries
Post by: Ryudo Lee on April 02, 2008, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 02, 2008, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on April 02, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
Then you probably need the current ban list.

That's not the stupid people, that's the people who have annoyed the moderators.

Often the same people, but not the same list. ;-]

I'm sure that there are stupid ones in there, and the rest can just be considered collateral damage.