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Title: 10/06/07 [Abel #101] - Again
Post by: AndersW on October 05, 2007, 11:31:12 PM
I think he hearing his mom's thoughts in the last panel.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Stygian on October 05, 2007, 11:33:06 PM
Oh. Oh my.

Oh my.

...

>:3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Turnsky on October 05, 2007, 11:36:35 PM
ah, emotional scarring.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 05, 2007, 11:36:35 PM
Poor little Abel. Whatever that was between him and his mother, I'm betting it's not going to give him the warm and fuzzies.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zedd on October 05, 2007, 11:41:05 PM
Well now...This is probley "cutting" it close as they say...Dont get much worse here or does it? >:3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Azraelle on October 05, 2007, 11:44:34 PM
She's given up on trying to stop whatever's going to happen, and accepted Abel's fate.  I'm thinking it's Abel's thoughts in the last panel (before, when Abel "heard" other peoples' thoughts, they were a different style).
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: AndersW on October 05, 2007, 11:47:16 PM
I'm talking about the very last panel, in the lower right where is says "I'm sorry"
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 05, 2007, 11:49:29 PM
She...turned her head away. She turned away...from her son.
That...is just horrible... :(
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Stygian on October 05, 2007, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on October 05, 2007, 11:49:29 PM
She...turned her head away. She turned away...from her son.
That...is just horrible... :(

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss...! >:3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Angel on October 06, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Oh man.

Does May blame Abel partially for all that's happened? Or does she blame herself for bringing this kind of chaos near her? And does it really matter to Abel at this point?  :cry

As for you, Stygian... quit trying to lighten the mood. Wait till morning.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Regal on October 06, 2007, 12:23:47 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on October 05, 2007, 11:49:29 PM
She...turned her head away. She turned away...from her son.
That...is just horrible... :(


Sad, but not horrible. What is she supposed to do? She's always been there for him, but both she and Abel may be realizing she can't save him.

Ah, the Friday night DMFA depression.  :mowsad
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 12:24:03 AM
Quote from: Black_angel on October 06, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Oh man.

Does May blame Abel partially for all that's happened?
Yes.

Quote from: Black_angel on October 06, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
As for you, Stygian... quit trying to lighten the mood. Wait till morning.
Seconded.

Quote from: Regal on October 06, 2007, 12:23:47 AM
Sad, but not horrible. What is she supposed to do? She's always been there for him, but both she and Abel may be realizing she can't save him.
Maybe partially, but not quite. See above.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Sunblink on October 06, 2007, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Stygian on October 05, 2007, 11:33:06 PM
Oh. Oh my.

Oh my.

...

>:3


My inner storyteller agrees with you, Stygian. >:3

My inner spectator, however, is just feeling so so sorry for Abel. :<

I'm a little torn about the implications of May's stare, though--she seems defeated and hurt in the third panel, maybe a little exhausted, which can mean that she's either blaming Abel for all the ache and pain which has occurred to her deteriorating life, can't bear to look at what will happen next, or has just given up. I'm starting to suspect it's a mixture of numbers one and three.

Bah. My speculation would be better but I r tired. :<

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 12:31:19 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 06, 2007, 12:29:34 AM
I'm starting to suspect it's a mixture of numbers one and three.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
My thoughts exactly, but I think it's mostly one.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Clicky on October 06, 2007, 12:52:15 AM
I think the 'I'm sorry' is referring to the comic where Abel promised to his mom that he wouldn't be a monster.
Here's the link: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_18.php
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 01:20:34 AM
Quote from: Clicky on October 06, 2007, 12:52:15 AM
I think the 'I'm sorry' is referring to the comic where Abel promised to his mom that he wouldn't be a monster.
Here's the link: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_18.php
Wow...I didn't think of that, but it just reinforces that May turned away from her son, from what I think is blame.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Rithm Alfortele on October 06, 2007, 01:20:54 AM
It's Abel speaking/thinking...
if you look... he's already starting to say the "I'm"...

...and now, May has hurt him perhaps more than Aniz ever could.

...

I think Amber deserves the award for "Most Realistically Dramatic Comic Ever"
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 01:23:53 AM
Quote from: Zachski on October 06, 2007, 01:20:54 AM
...and now, May has hurt him perhaps more than Aniz ever could.
Yes, and that is without a doubt, must be at least one of the reasons he's so messed up in the future.

Props to Amber.
This is probably the single saddest comic so far in all of Abel's Story. :(
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Goatmon on October 06, 2007, 02:19:38 AM
Ow, man.  Just.....ow.  :/

Quote from: Clicky on October 06, 2007, 12:52:15 AM
I think the 'I'm sorry' is referring to the comic where Abel promised to his mom that he wouldn't be a monster.
Here's the link: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_18.php

That's just what I was thinking.  I'd have posted that page if you hadn't already. 
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Reaver225 on October 06, 2007, 03:57:07 AM
'Tis not unexpected, but it's still saddening. Admittedly, there a number of things that could have made May done that, most understandable. I can't precisely place what emotion she has on her face. Reading off other peoples comments and adding my own bit:

1: Could be emotionally drained (not literally, but in shock after seeing Cid->Aniz and Henya chunks) and has stopped processing stuff (looks at Abel, fails to think of anything, stomach starts hurting again)

2: Possibly despairing of her own faliure towards not being able to protect Abel - could produce that 'lack of emotion' look, and the 'I'm Sorry' (assuming that's her thoughts... big assumption)

3: Worst case: "Do Not Want". That'd be pretty scarring for Abel, even if she changes her mind later - it's not unlikely this is the last time they'll see each other alive..

O'course, it'd look the same to Abel if he isn't able to read minds (Abel... Able... Abel... Bah, that name and abilities are going to turn me spellings round) and he may just assume Option 3 with the Op.2 bit of faliure of 'Mom' to help him.

If he CAN read minds, 1. and 2. might ease his eventual thoughts a bit on the matter of May.

In the long run, of course.
Short run, mental breakdown etc possible.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: rabid_fox on October 06, 2007, 04:17:19 AM

That strip worked extremely well themed to the jaunty little number "The Boy With The Bubblegun" by Tom McRae. I tend to take a few minutes to read the stripes these days cause Amber's getting into the region where there's always a few more things to notice if you look hard enough.

As a side point, my mother used to do the exact same thing to me when I forgot to tidy my room.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: rt on October 06, 2007, 07:39:38 AM
 :U OMG! Thye killed Abel! ... ......

(Some one had to say it)

Other than that I think I'll go join the umm .. err ..  oh my groud
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*

Sorry, did I miss something? Something involving drinking?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Naldru on October 06, 2007, 08:08:41 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 01:23:53 AM
Props to Amber.
This is probably the single saddest comic so far in all of Abel's Story. :(

What I find even sadder is that you'll probably be able to say the same thing about the next one.  (And probably the one after that.)

If Amber had drawn something like this in an art class in the high school my children went to, she'd have been scheduled for an instant trip to the school psychiatrist to check for suicidal tendencies.

Regarding May's expression, I remember a time when my son was very young, and he managed to get a cut on his chin.  At the emergency room, the doctor asked me hold his head still while he inserted stitches.  I held him still, but I had to turn my head away because I couldn't stand the sight of his bleeding chin.  That feeling was what May's expression reminded me of.

Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Arcalane on October 06, 2007, 08:14:54 AM
Awww, and here I was hoping he'd puke on Aniz' shoes. :[
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 01:23:53 AM
Props to Amber.
This is probably the single saddest comic so far in all of Abel's Story. :(

Yep, this is a pretty depressing strip, although personally I feel the scene where Devin dies while Abel hears his thoughts was one of the worst.

Quote from: Naldru on October 06, 2007, 08:08:41 AM
What I find even sadder is that you'll probably be able to say the same thing about the next one.
Rumour has it that Abel's backstory is a pleasantly warming tale compared to Fa'Lina's  :erk
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: TheDXM on October 06, 2007, 09:34:26 AM
I'm...

...I'm...

GAY!

*cloaks*
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:51:05 AM
*Charline laughs and laughs and laughs*  This was the funniest one yet!  The sad, teary eyes, the looks of despair!  Amber really knows how to amuse a cubi!  Hee hee hee!   >:3

*Charles erfs*  Abel is a wuss, though.  In my early 20's I was ready for battle at every moment.  Of course, walking through Camden, NJ every day kinda leads to that as a survival reflex.   :P
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Angel on October 06, 2007, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:51:05 AM
*Charline laughs and laughs and laughs*  This was the funniest one yet!  The sad, teary eyes, the looks of despair!  Amber really knows how to amuse a cubi!  Hee hee hee!   >:3

(grrs) Dangit, Charline, what'd I just tell Stygian! You sadist types are really startin' to get to me! >:O
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: SpottedKitty on October 06, 2007, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
Rumour has it that Abel's backstory is a pleasantly warming tale compared to Fa'Lina's  :erk

I'd agree with you, going by what Abel mentions in his "short version" of 'Cubi history (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php).
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: computer nerd on October 06, 2007, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: SpottedKitty on October 06, 2007, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
Rumour has it that Abel's backstory is a pleasantly warming tale compared to Fa'Lina's  :erk

I'd agree with you, going by what Abel mentions in his "short version" of 'Cubi history (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php).
Same here   :<
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Aurawyn on October 06, 2007, 10:54:14 AM
I think its a "Defeated' look..

She knows there is nothing she can do to help him.. and so she's hanging her head, also shes got those little wobble lines behind her ears, so I think Maybe shes crying quietly too...


Wow..  That comment, hit kinda close to home actually....
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Naldru on October 06, 2007, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: SpottedKitty on October 06, 2007, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
Rumour has it that Abel's backstory is a pleasantly warming tale compared to Fa'Lina's  :erk

I'd agree with you, going by what Abel mentions in his "short version" of 'Cubi history (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php).

Would you consider Fa'lina's current personality a good way of coping with her troubled past or a bad way?  Should she be considered a potential role model for Dan and Abel in the same way that Devin (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_54.php) was for Abel.  Should cookies (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_536.php) and muffins (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_426.php) be considered the best approach for problem solving?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: AnizInDisguise on October 06, 2007, 11:41:45 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

You know, I was thinking that myself, except the Drip part was just a subconscious thought in the back of my head.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Regal on October 06, 2007, 12:30:02 PM
Fa'lina's family was killed by muffins! She's been getting revenge ever since.  :mowcookie
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Jigsaw Forte on October 06, 2007, 12:31:44 PM
Am I the only one who sees Aniz's black silhouette as a tip-off that he was Kria's instructor?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: techmaster-glitch on October 06, 2007, 12:38:50 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on October 06, 2007, 12:31:44 PM
Am I the only one who sees Aniz's black silhouette as a tip-off that he was Kria's instructor?
*checks*
*checks*
Whoa, that actually does look close.

However, this is not the first time it's been suggested, and I'm thinking it's not true. Why would a cubi be teaching a demon class? I don't think Fa'Lina goes for that kind of thing too often, and Aniz has said himself that she is closely involved with what Aniz is doing.

But, on the flip side, Cid/Aniz did come home saying he met a 'friend'. That has yet to be revealed.

Honestly, I can't take a side on this. There simply is not enough conclusive evidence either way.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 06, 2007, 12:47:26 PM
paralyzed with fear...Abel suddenly goes into a beserker frenzy killing everyone, including the neighbors.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: BeckyW on October 06, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*

Sorry, did I miss something? Something involving drinking?

Nah, some people here just seem to like to attack others because they actually read other comics.   
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: wussycat on October 06, 2007, 01:36:20 PM
I just thought of something...

After Abel and Aniz leave, someone is probably going to come by and find a bat**** insane May and the Hennya cutlets.

May's probably going to be arrested for the murder of Hennya. :mowsad
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on October 06, 2007, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:51:05 AM
*Charline laughs and laughs and laughs*  This was the funniest one yet!  The sad, teary eyes, the looks of despair!  Amber really knows how to amuse a cubi!  Hee hee hee!   >:3

(grrs) Dangit, Charline, what'd I just tell Stygian! You sadist types are really startin' to get to me! >:O

That's so sweet, Angel. :3 Now, go cry while we laugh with malicious mirth. >:3

No, really. I concur with Keaton's first point and with Goatmon. If anything, this should explain Abel's aversion to personal closeness. He doesn't want to end up anything like his father.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zina on October 06, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: BeckyW on October 06, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*

Sorry, did I miss something? Something involving drinking?

Nah, some people here just seem to like to attack others because they actually read other comics.   

Someone should make a reference to another comic that isn't Jack, then. :V
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 02:47:01 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 06, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: BeckyW on October 06, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*

Sorry, did I miss something? Something involving drinking?

Nah, some people here just seem to like to attack others because they actually read other comics.   

Someone should make a reference to another comic that isn't Jack, then. :V

Za? Why the fscking wang should we do that?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Jigsaw Forte on October 06, 2007, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 02:47:01 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 06, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: BeckyW on October 06, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Not one of the regular ones, but.

*takes a shot*

Sorry, did I miss something? Something involving drinking?

Nah, some people here just seem to like to attack others because they actually read other comics.   

Someone should make a reference to another comic that isn't Jack, then. :V

Za? Why the fscking wang should we do that?

... because I would appreciate the ego boost?  :cry  ;)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zina on October 06, 2007, 02:49:27 PM
There tends to be a lot of references to Jack and only Jack. To be honest, it gets kind of old after a while.
That and Jigsaw would appreciate the ego boost. :<
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Rafe on October 06, 2007, 02:57:58 PM
Well, not really old for most of us, but it does get Janus and Zina all squeaky as you can see.  Better censor yourself next time you think of "that" comic.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: rt on October 06, 2007, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte link=topic=3478.msg149997#msg149997
... because I would appreciate the ego boost?  :cry  ;)
/quote]

*helps*

It's just like in Jigsaw Forte .. when Jig gets out the saw and goes after Forte.

No one said it had to be a good reference  :<
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 03:04:10 PM
I..uh...don't think you people got it.

My last post had three references to non-Jack webcomics.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM
To be honest, both sides are kind of nerve-grating after a while.  Is it really so much better to have someone making a snide comment about the Jack reference than the reference itself?

To clear things up, there are two issues at hand.  One side finds it highly annoying that Jack is apparently the say-all/end-all of drama and anytime something sad or bad happens in DMFA, that its so "Jack".  And honestly, it doesn't help that it is the only comic menioned...which is why when it is brought up, it gets on people's nerves because there is nothing to buffer between occurances thus it makes it seem like its mentioned every day.

On the other side, it isn't really fair to bring up everytime Jack is mentioned and throw it in the person's face.  It makes one appear smug and holier-than-thou.  And it really isn't fair to Jack's creator, who is a pretty keen guy.  I'd rather not make it seem like the readers over here have a major hate-on for his stuff.  That said, there isn't any rule saying one has to mention three other comics for every Jack mention.

Either way, I think it's time to let this die down and go back to the original topic at hand.  Primarily: MEEEEEEEE.

Personally I think I'll dedicate this current Abel's Story update to all those people who sent me emails saying how they really hoped Abel would get his comeuppance. :3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zina on October 06, 2007, 03:08:07 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM

Either way, I think it's time to let this die down and go back to the original topic at hand.  Primarily: MEEEEEEEE.


One time, Amber punched me in the face.
It was awesome.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on October 06, 2007, 03:08:59 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM
Personally I think I'll dedicate this current Abel's Story update to all those people who sent me emails saying how they really hoped Abel would get his comeuppance. :3

You should keep a tally of how many Abel-haters became sympathisers after reading Abel's Story. I imagine the count would be pretty high.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
I'm not really expecting haters to become sympathisers. But I am hoping for some good old "Oh you wanted Abel to be miserable eh? WELL HERE YA GO! :U  Whats that? Not the way you wanted it?  BWAAHAHAHAAHAAHA!"

I am a shallow terrible being.

And one time I punched Zina in the face. It was aweseome. :3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Kasarn on October 06, 2007, 03:23:45 PM
But I sympathised with Abel to begin with... I didn't want him to be miserable and now I just feel doubleplusungood :[

When does he get to go to rainbow mountain?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
I don't think that I can entirely overlook my general fear and loathing of 'cubi, but at least in Abel's case I'm willing to make an extremely generous compromise. Mostly so long as his comeuppance teaches him a valuable thing or two about his father's ways. And, more importantly, so long as he really, really earns that 'thorn in my side' comment from Fa'Lina. >:3
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zedd on October 06, 2007, 03:35:20 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
I'm not really expecting haters to become sympathisers. But I am hoping for some good old "Oh you wanted Abel to be miserable eh? WELL HERE YA GO! :U  Whats that? Not the way you wanted it?  BWAAHAHAHAAHAAHA!"

I am a shallow terrible being.

And one time I punched Zina in the face. It was aweseome. :3
Every time Amber punches someone..Take a drink!


Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
I don't think that I can entirely overlook my general fear and loathing of 'cubi, but at least in Abel's case I'm willing to make an extremely generous compromise. Mostly so long as his comeuppance teaches him a valuable thing or two about his father's ways. And, more importantly, so long as he really, really earns that 'thorn in my side' comment from Fa'Lina. >:3
You should write a book Sty...I can see you as an author sometime
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Angel on October 06, 2007, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM
Personally I think I'll dedicate this current Abel's Story update to all those people who sent me emails saying how they really hoped Abel would get his comeuppance. :3

His comeuppance for what?  :confused What'd he do? I mean, besides hit Dan in the head with a bat, change his outfit, puke on his shoes, and try to kill him with veggies.

Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 02:20:21 PM

That's so sweet, Angel. :3 Now, go cry while we laugh with malicious mirth. >:3

...Well, after the tone of the discussion started to turn, I started smiling. So carry on, O Pain-loving ones!  :3

Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 03:41:18 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on October 06, 2007, 03:35:52 PM
His comeuppance for what?  :confused What'd he do? I mean, besides hit Dan in the head with a bat, change his outfit, puke on his shoes, and try to kill him with veggies.

Wildy's done far worse and she's one of Dan's friends.  Interestingly, I was sorely tempted to vote for Regina's story because I don't like her and I wasn't sure I wanted to watch Abel suffer :P
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Goatmon on October 06, 2007, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Teehee.

Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: bill on October 06, 2007, 04:39:09 PM
The comic reminded me of a Penny Arcade strip that I didn't read.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Kamunt on October 06, 2007, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Kasarn on October 06, 2007, 03:23:45 PMdoubleplusungood

I see what you did there. :mowninja

I don't even know what this obsession with Jack is, or who Jack even is. The only Jacks I know are Samurai Jack, Jack the Ripper, Jack Hammer, and Jack, my best friend's little brother with Down Syndrome.

Also, I agree with whoever said the scene where Devin get murdered and Abel hears his last thoughts is the worst of all. I'm pretty positive I was actually in tears when I first read that part...it was just so, so tragic and everything. ;_;
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: bill on October 06, 2007, 05:37:21 PM
You forgot 1980s baseball player Jack Clark.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Ieclarkj.jpg)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: DarkAudit on October 06, 2007, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 06, 2007, 05:37:21 PM
You forgot 1980s baseball player Jack Clark.

NOOO!!! My eyes!! The burning!!! D:
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Naldru on October 06, 2007, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 06, 2007, 04:39:09 PM
The comic reminded me of a Penny Arcade strip that I didn't read.
Because of what was in the strip or because you didn't read it?

Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
I don't think that I can entirely overlook my general fear and loathing of 'cubi, but at least in Abel's case I'm willing to make an extremely generous compromise. Mostly so long as his comeuppance teaches him a valuable thing or two about his father's ways. And, more importantly, so long as he really, really earns that 'thorn in my side' comment from Fa'Lina. >:3
I really have to wonder how much of a thorn in Fa'lina's side Abel is.  Do you really think that Fa'lina would assign anybody as a roommate to Abel if she didn't feel that that individual was deserving of what Abel would likely do (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php), either good or bad.  According to the cast page (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/abel.php), Fa'lina views Abel fondly and Abel respects Fa'lina.

If there is anybody who really views Abel as a thorn in the side, I suspect that it is the SAIA librarian.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Kamunt on October 06, 2007, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 06, 2007, 05:37:21 PMYou forgot 1980s baseball player Jack Clark.

Gah! *forehead-smack* How could I have forgotten him!? Thanks for the save, Bill.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
I don't think that I can entirely overlook my general fear and loathing of 'cubi, but at least in Abel's case I'm willing to make an extremely generous compromise.

Now I'm curious.  Do you mean a general fear of Creatures, or is there something specific about 'Cubi?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Reese Tora on October 06, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: lots of people*Drama about Jack*

Is it wrong that I was also reminded of Jack... not by any similarity of style or drama, but because Abel's eyes are getting smaller and smaller, and it reminded me of how all the dead (and going to hell) people in Jack have pinpoint eyes?

Considering how Abel's life is going to hell right now, it's certainly understandable one might make that link.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zedd on October 06, 2007, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Reese Tora on October 06, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: lots of people*Drama about Jack*

Is it wrong that I was also reminded of Jack... not by any similarity of style or drama, but because Abel's eyes are getting smaller and smaller, and it reminded me of how all the dead (and going to hell) people in Jack have pinpoint eyes?

Considering how Abel's life is going to hell right now, it's certainly understandable one might make that link.
Nah..David has done far worse depressing issues stating than Amber has done way before her...Anyone rember Fnar?? Ha got you again Jackholics!!
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Jigsaw Forte on October 06, 2007, 07:06:46 PM
Quote from: Reese Tora on October 06, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: lots of people*Drama about Jack*

Is it wrong that I was also reminded of Jack... not by any similarity of style or drama, but because Abel's eyes are getting smaller and smaller, and it reminded me of how all the dead (and going to hell) people in Jack have pinpoint eyes?

Considering how Abel's life is going to hell right now, it's certainly understandable one might make that link.

Meh, I use it as a shock/stress indicator myself. Pupil constriction and all that.

If they were little more than dots of ink, I could see the corollary, but they're still distinctively colored and such.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 06, 2007, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
I don't think that I can entirely overlook my general fear and loathing of 'cubi, but at least in Abel's case I'm willing to make an extremely generous compromise.

Now I'm curious.  Do you mean a general fear of Creatures, or is there something specific about 'Cubi?

Plain and simple, Angels and Demons are bad due to the sheer amount of power they have, not to mention Dragons and Fae who are simply catastrophic. But 'Cubi? They are worse. They feast on emotions, which of course leads to many provoking pain, heartbreak, shame and desperation. They have natural abilities for deception and for getting into people's heads. That's very private territory, mind you. And they have the natural drive to use these abilities, it seems. So in effect, you could say that while all the other races settle for disrespecting life, peace, intellect and property, 'Cubi not only do that but they also go in for pain and humiliation. In effect, they add insult to injury.

And yes, I know that I am generalizing, but frankly I don't care. It is general enough that it works. In this case I am a racist, yes. And I need incontestable proof before I view one 'Cubi alone as someone good.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
*Charles thinks of another comic besides "Jack"!*  Ya know, this was kinda like that time in Sluggy, where there was death and mayhem and stuff, and the good guy was all sad and stuff.  And then, uhm, similar stuff to this happened.  Stuff.  Yes.   Non_jack realted stuff.  :B
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: candide on October 06, 2007, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: Regal on October 06, 2007, 12:23:47 AM
Sad, but not horrible. What is she supposed to do? She's always been there for him, but both she and Abel may be realizing she can't save him.
I think that's in there...

Quote from: Reaver225 on October 06, 2007, 03:57:07 AM
1: Could be emotionally drained (not literally, but in shock after seeing Cid->Aniz and Henya chunks) and has stopped processing stuff (looks at Abel, fails to think of anything, stomach starts hurting again)

2: Possibly despairing of her own faliure towards not being able to protect Abel

...and that's a definite, too.

Remember, Aniz just told May to shut up, or she's dead.  She's powerless, and she knows it.  I think she's looking away from her son out of shame.  She can't help Abel, she can't do anything at this point, she's terrified ... and she's ashamed of it. 

Or, at least, that's my take on this week's strip.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: candide on October 06, 2007, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Kamunt on October 06, 2007, 05:33:38 PM
Also, I agree with whoever said the scene where Devin get murdered and Abel hears his last thoughts is the worst of all. I'm pretty positive I was actually in tears when I first read that part...it was just so, so tragic and everything. ;_;

Yeah, I found that to be a very Yasui-letting-go-of-the-mast moment, too.


What?

You wanted a reference to a comic other than "Jack," no?  ;)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: AnizInDisguise on October 06, 2007, 11:02:53 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 06, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
I'm not really expecting haters to become sympathisers. But I am hoping for some good old "Oh you wanted Abel to be miserable eh? WELL HERE YA GO! :U  Whats that? Not the way you wanted it?  BWAAHAHAHAAHAAHA!"

I am a shallow terrible being.

And one time I punched Zina in the face. It was aweseome. :3

Really? You both thought that was awesome? Well then, Amber, will you punch me in the face?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Rafe on October 07, 2007, 12:38:16 AM
Quote from: Goatmon on October 06, 2007, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 06, 2007, 05:21:57 AM
This comic was so Jack, I half expected Drip to show up and start raping people.

Teehee.



Chibi Drip is too cute, and would never do such a thing.  Chibi Jack would stop him anyway.

(http://24.106.113.210/otown/Chibi_Drip.gif)(http://24.106.113.210/otown/Jacks1.gif)

Maybe we should get Amber to drop the usuall DMFA characters for a week or two, and replace them with her Jack character chibis.  Maybe then we'd get it all out of our system... nah.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Illusionist on October 07, 2007, 04:16:05 AM
Quote from: Reese Tora on October 06, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: lots of people*Drama about Jack*

Is it wrong that I was also reminded of Jack... not by any similarity of style or drama, but because Abel's eyes are getting smaller and smaller, and it reminded me of how all the dead (and going to hell) people in Jack have pinpoint eyes?

Considering how Abel's life is going to hell right now, it's certainly understandable one might make that link.

See? This guy understands that not every Jack reference is saying "Jack is all drama, all drama is Jack".

I can make an EGS reference involving no squirrels. I can make a Black Sabbath reference that doesn't involve Ozzy. I can even make a DMFA reference that doesn't involve cubi.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 07, 2007, 05:45:42 AM
Quote from: Rafe on October 07, 2007, 12:38:16 AM
Chibi Drip is too cute, and would never do such a thing.  Chibi Jack would stop him anyway.

(http://24.106.113.210/otown/Chibi_Drip.gif)

Oh dear.  I may have to kill Gabriel now for including someone else's character in the Unholy Radio Project strip that I'm hosting and not telling me so I can do the copyright attribution...

Quote from: Stygian on October 06, 2007, 08:48:55 PM
They feast on emotions, which of course leads to many provoking pain, heartbreak, shame and desperation. They have natural abilities for deception and for getting into people's heads. That's very private territory, mind you. And they have the natural drive to use these abilities, it seems.
Well, I can't really argue with that as a whole, aside from the fact that we've seen a very small cross-section close up, and that willingness to do evil is going to depend on the upbringing - you're less likely to do such stuff if you're brought up as a Being.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2007, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
Non_jack realted stuff.  :B

... so Jack is for sale? How do I contact the realtor?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: BeckyW on October 07, 2007, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 07, 2007, 05:45:42 AM
Oh dear.  I may have to kill Gabriel now for including someone else's character in the Unholy Radio Project strip that I'm hosting and not telling me so I can do the copyright attribution...

And don't forget - be sure to include a Drip Censorship Panda.

(http://www.pholph.com/Drip_MA.gif)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 07, 2007, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: BeckyW on October 07, 2007, 08:05:05 AM
And don't forget - be sure to include a Drip Censorship Panda.
(http://www.pholph.com/Drip_MA.gif)

The strip appears at the bottom of the DMFA Radio Project site, so 'MA' isn't quite the rating it needs.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2007, 08:55:04 AM
NSFA? (Not Safe For Anyone)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 07, 2007, 04:49:50 PM
yes, but really who would I attribute the chibi too, Amber or David...and then I added the cute lil' antenna and the mow tail , and then the character started to look more  like kello the kitty, and I did say the colors/markings were borrowed.  and the joke gets funnier when you know where it (the soul) came from.


FYI the chibi baby was inspired by kello as seen here,   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzy_BK8P78o) I made the beak wider and put the marks and antenna  in, and then I thought of drip. The image in the upper right was based off an image of whinny the pooh holding a bunny, and then the whole Cabbit thing stuck, and  almost all Mikelo images are based off of Amber's originals.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Reese Tora on October 07, 2007, 05:44:35 PM
It's your art, and David's character, so, inspired by Amber's version or not, it would probalby be most appropriate to credit Dave.

(completely off topic, nice shot on having Leo and Aeris wearing Tycho and Gabe's clothes :P )
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Alondro on October 07, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2007, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
Non_jack realted stuff.  :B

... so Jack is for sale? How do I contact the realtor?

Me not no.  Me R not land sellor pursun.   :B
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Zedd on October 07, 2007, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: Alondro on October 07, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2007, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 06, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
Non_jack realted stuff.  :B

... so Jack is for sale? How do I contact the realtor?

Me not no.  Me R not land sellor pursun.   :B
How is babby born..How gril get pregnant?  :B
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Kamunt on October 07, 2007, 11:19:56 PM
Quote from: Illusionist on October 07, 2007, 04:16:05 AMI can make an EGS reference involving no squirrels. I can make a Black Sabbath reference that doesn't involve Ozzy. I can even make a DMFA reference that doesn't involve cubi.

This is unpossible. :dface

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2007, 08:55:04 AMNSFA? (Not Safe For Anyone)

NSFH (Not Safe For Humanity) sounds better. (OMG SHONEN-AI WARNING NSFH LOLOLOL (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=223))
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 07, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
Quote from: Reese Tora on October 07, 2007, 05:44:35 PM
It's your art, and David's character, so, inspired by Amber's version or not, it would probalby be most appropriate to credit Dave.

(completely off topic, nice shot on having Leo and Aeris wearing Tycho and Gabe's clothes :P )

Again, I pointed out the colors were used, and where they came from, and "drip" was mentioned... as to weather the recombined being will actually be drip has yet to be determined... although the the possibility is still there.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Amber Williams on October 07, 2007, 11:40:05 PM
Gabriel.  The "character" looks like a near-duplicate of Dave's character Drip with some modifications.  You can't widdle-waddle your way into saying its something completely different when its blatently obvious where you got the inspiration from.  So give Dave his credit already.  I don't care if the thing ends up being named Snoo-Snoo Butterfluff, its pretty apparent the design was quasi-ganked from either the Drip Chibi or from Drip himself.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Fuyudenki on October 08, 2007, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 07, 2007, 11:40:05 PM
I don't care if the thing ends up being named Snoo-Snoo Butterfluff

D'oh, I already voted!  Can I take my vote back and suggest that name, instead?
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 08, 2007, 04:02:16 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 07, 2007, 11:40:05 PM
Gabriel.  The "character" looks like a near-duplicate of Dave's character Drip with some modifications.  You can't widdle-waddle your way into saying its something completely different when its blatently obvious where you got the inspiration from.  So give Dave his credit already.

Done as of last night:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/uhrp/strip041.htm

...if anyone knows when Drip was created, that would be handy.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 08, 2007, 11:14:15 AM
I knew it looked exactly like drip,  You don't honestly think I take anything Seriously,  I was being intentionally silly for the purposes of creating drama, and it is a fascinating conversation peice. (at least for me...I'm bored out of my skull.)
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 08, 2007, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 08, 2007, 11:14:15 AM
I knew it looked exactly like drip,  You don't honestly think I take anything Seriously,  I was being intentionally silly for the purposes of creating drama, and it is a fascinating conversation peice. (at least for me...I'm bored out of my skull.)

We've had some "forum drama" (tm) on this subject of late, so us mods are a bit touchy about people claiming things that just ain't so. Don't take it personally, ok? Just smile and nod, and do what we said, and you can poke fun at us next week. ;-]
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Rafe on October 08, 2007, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 08, 2007, 04:02:16 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 07, 2007, 11:40:05 PM
Gabriel.  The "character" looks like a near-duplicate of Dave's character Drip with some modifications.  You can't widdle-waddle your way into saying its something completely different when its blatently obvious where you got the inspiration from.  So give Dave his credit already.

Done as of last night:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/uhrp/strip041.htm

...if anyone knows when Drip was created, that would be handy.

Drip was created by David Hopkins in 1993.  I've seen the original artwork.  And in case you're wondering, Drip, and pretty much all of David Hopkins' characters are copyrighted - we're talking legal paperwork, fees and everything.  That said, he's usually very nice about his characters being used by others, as long as you ask and give him credit. 
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Tapewolf on October 08, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: Rafe on October 08, 2007, 05:42:24 PM
Drip was created by David Hopkins in 1993.  I've seen the original artwork.  And in case you're wondering, Drip, and pretty much all of David Hopkins' characters are copyrighted - we're talking legal paperwork, fees and everything.  That said, he's usually very nice about his characters being used by others, as long as you ask and give him credit. 

Thanks.  Here's the amended copyright note: http://dmfa.it-he.org/uhrp/strip041.htm

Basically I'm hosting Gabriel's comic as a side-project.  Traditionally it was about the radio project itself (which is why I'm hosting it) although it seems to have widened its scope lately.
While I try to credit people whose characters Gabriel cameos, I am relying to a degree on others since I'm only regularly reading about three webcomics at the moment, and as Jack is not among these, this one fell through the net.
Title: Re: 10/06/07 Abel's Story [#101] Again
Post by: Alondro on October 08, 2007, 11:11:24 PM
*Charles bwah ha ha!*  I shall create drama by stealing Charline's character!

*Charline uhms*  Ok, you go ahead and do that.   :rolleyes