http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_84.php
Things didn't quite get as explosive as I originally thought they would, but they are definitely heating up, that's for sure. Excellent work on May's expressions there, Amber-you can practically feel her anger there.
I find it rather ironic that Cid's wedding ring is displayed on his hand there.
Go go gadget SPECULATION!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Looks like I called it... or so it seems... :boogie
May..Calm down...
Didnt see that one coming...
I gotta comment on the dialogue. I've had countless instances where I was in a little fight with someone and couldn't even get a word in. Then again, I have gone on tangents like that myself.
I wonder what Abel thinks of all this.
Quote from: HeroZero on April 20, 2007, 10:11:05 PM
I wonder what Abel thinks of all this.
I think abel may still be unaware somewhere off in his own state of mind permanently traumatized by what he saw and heard earlier.
*checks a map of Egypt* hmm, anyone able to spot denial? Nope? Me either. Looks like the "Cid's not the father" theory just got stronger. Not perfectly air-tight solid yet, but it's definitely supporting more weight. And how can I squeeze more metaphors into this paragraph?
Quote from: Azraelle on April 20, 2007, 10:28:51 PM
*checks a map of Egypt* hmm, anyone able to spot denial? Nope? Me either. Looks like the "Cid's not the father" theory just got stronger. Not perfectly air-tight solid yet, but it's definitely supporting more weight. And how can I squeeze more metaphors into this paragraph?
I'm pretty sure that May's hurt indignation is denial enough on her end, in my personal opinion.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
But she didn't really deny Cid's implication of her sleeping around, and in fact she admits to doing "foolish and selfish things" in her youth.
Uh oh ... *turns chair* Captain, I'm getting some strange readings ... there's increased activity on the flashback sensors. Seems to be centralized around May's teenage years, at heading 1-3-7-mark-2-3.
My prediction of Cid's next line:
:shapeshifters
Well, maybe not quite like that, but it does look like Cid is about to explain what a 'cubi is to May.
Put him in a headlock, May!
:shapeshifters
I hope he dose explain that to May
I am thoroughly amused that the :shapeshifters speech bubble is used enough to merit smileyhood on this forum.
Now, I'm no authority on women, but I think an ideal course of action for Cid at this point would be *grab* *smooch.*
Anything unexpected, really. The unexpected when used as a distraction is a wonderous tool.
That said, I think the author is probably a very good authority on women, who has a much better idea, and looks like she's going to let us know what that is within a couple of hours. Looks like I'm going to bed late tonight.
Something tells me that :shapeshifters isn't going to come up. May's lines seem to imply that she knew that it wasn't Cid.
Claws o' May seem more likely to me.
Poor May. I can really see the feeling of betrayal in her expression.
I could feel for May when Cid made those accusations. I think we are getting a flashback of May to see any connections.
But in the case of Cid not being the father is getting strong at this point he's not admiting it.
Who knows what will happens next.
I wonder where abel and hennya are now. Probably now in the next room. we may learn more in the next page to come
I am 100% sure at this point that May is not the father.
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 21, 2007, 12:00:06 AM
I am 100% sure at this point that May is not the father.
I certainly hope so. I don't want any Mabby Springer episodes coming on...
The theory now bumbed up to most likely: May DOES know she slept with someone, but may/may not know that someone was a cubi.
perhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 21, 2007, 12:13:58 AM
perhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
Or if once you 'do it' with a cubi that cubi gene will transfer to all your offspring, so Abel could still be Cid's child. It's a stretch though.
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 21, 2007, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 21, 2007, 12:13:58 AM
perhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
Or if once you 'do it' with a cubi that cubi gene will transfer to all your offspring, so Abel could still be Cid's child. It's a stretch though.
Anythings possible, but the years in growing up are reasonably standard. ( or substandard in Dan's case )
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 21, 2007, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 21, 2007, 12:13:58 AM
perhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
Or if once you 'do it' with a cubi that cubi gene will transfer to all your offspring, so Abel could still be Cid's child. It's a stretch though.
In that case, Dan's days as an adventurer may have spread his clan's genes far and wide. :shifty
I don't think that likely, since cubi, traditionally, are sex demons. I think that,w ere this the case, the world of furrae would be quickly overrun by 'cubi from being parents taht at one time did it with a cubi.
I think that the most likely cause is still May being tricked or outright forced (and magically made to forget) by an incubus. Then again, who knows what plot twist Amber will throw at us. >:3
Quote from: Reese Tora on April 21, 2007, 12:33:30 AM
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 21, 2007, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 21, 2007, 12:13:58 AM
perhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
Or if once you 'do it' with a cubi that cubi gene will transfer to all your offspring, so Abel could still be Cid's child. It's a stretch though.
In that case, Dan's days as an adventurer may have spread his clan's genes far and wide. :shifty
I don't think that likely, since cubi, traditionally, are sex demons. I think that,w ere this the case, the world of furrae would be quickly overrun by 'cubi from being parents taht at one time did it with a cubi.
I think that the most likely cause is still May being tricked or outright forced (and magically made to forget) by an incubus. Then again, who knows what plot twist Amber will throw at us. >:3
Well what I'm saying is that it wouldn't be like that normally, but maybe there is some sort of spell that allows a cubi to do so. And I don't know that in Amber's world Cubi are sex demons... I think that's just a stereotype?
Anyway, I just say that in the first place because it seems like if May had done it with someone else within a couple months before her pregnancy, she would have understood most likely, and Cid would have KNOWN (considering it seems May hasn't hid anything).
Who called the "may slept with someone else knowingly"?
Well whoever did, nice call ;)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 20, 2007, 09:56:17 PMI find it rather ironic that Cid's wedding ring is displayed on his hand there.
Not ironic. Appropriate.
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 21, 2007, 12:13:58 AMperhaps the gestation of a cubi child is longer than a normal beings
I was going to suggest that.
Also:
1.) I do believe that I called that Cid would not be upset over May's infidelity.
2.) It sounds like May's infidelity happened before they were married.
If I were Cid, my next move would be to give May a giant bear hug, with my arms around hers, rest my head on her shoulder, and whisper, ``May, you never have to prove yourself. Never.''
...excuse me, I think I have something in my eye.
Ah, it's tears. From all the crying I've been doing. I guess that's why they're in my eyes.
Well, Cid looks pissed that May's taking this too far. By the way I read his words, it seems he doesn't really care, but May's gone into rant mode.
I think someone put a curse on Cid's seed so that his offspring would be cubi.
Ah welll ......
I think it is very interesting that it is May and not Cid who is overreacting. Isn't it best to just fess up? Or does she really not know? In either case, it doesn't seem too useful to be this upset about it, given he isn't...
Hey, why are Cid's ears and hands still black while May's have faded? Is he just going gray later? Because his beard is pretty gray.
Is Cid calm due to not having guilt, or is as before conjectured, do we have a cubi in the house ?
I think Cid's calm because he trusts his wife. That, and she's going nuts, Abel's traumatic, and Henya's... Henya. Someone has to be sane!
You know, I noticed something.
May says that her friends brought up the issue of infidelity. We never saw that. Means that we're probably going to see it in the future. Maybe Devin's mom? May says that friends started questioning her fidelity after the town, but that doesn't mean that the town didn't continue to question it afterwards.
Quote from: Plot prediction
Cid: May. It's alright. I'm just checking. But now I have to tell you the truth. DAR I AM AN INCUBUS LOL
May: OMGWTF
Cid: STFU when I talk
May: I HERD U (liek mudkipz lol) ALREADY
Cid: kay also something bad is going to happen
May: like whut
Cid: Oshi- forget i said that kthx bb
May: GG NOOB
I don't think Abel is in any trouble. As long as his parents accept him they can get him help and there won't be any trouble for him at all.
Quote from: Tsunari on April 21, 2007, 02:23:15 AM
I don't think Abel is in any trouble. As long as his parents accept him they can get him help and there won't be any trouble for him at all.
There may ( May ? ) be a few hassles at the moment, but at least Cid accepts Abel as his son, and isn't about to go out and go rampaging through the house looking for Abel . Later will be seen
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 21, 2007, 12:00:06 AM
I am 100% sure at this point that May is not the father.
I am also 100% sure at this point Cid is not the mother.
EDIT: Considering the family moved to Zineth, the Demon City, there shouldn't be much problem with the locals - unless 'cubi are really really rare and despised by even other creatures, Abel would probably even fit in better than Cid and May.
Quote from: Reaver225 on April 21, 2007, 06:06:50 AM
I am also 100% sure at this point Cid is not the mother.
EDIT: Considering the family moved to Zineth, the Demon City, there shouldn't be much problem with the locals - unless 'cubi are really really rare and despised by even other creatures, Abel would probably even fit in better than Cid and May.
Until he goes to the casino to play poker or black jack with his thought reading abilities.
I still think Cid's a Cubi. May's reaction to Abel's headwings seems genuine. Compare that to Cid's calm reaction, and I get the feeling he's hiding something. Especially since as an adventurer, you'd think his first reaction would be "kill on sight", son or not.
My guess is, Cid's going to let May rant in hopes that Abel and Hennya clear out of the room. Then he's going to explain it to her, and together they're going to explain it to Abel.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 21, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
The theory now bumbed up to most likely: May DOES know she slept with someone, but may/may not know that someone was a cubi.
It sounds more like May was a little too frisky in her younger days before Cid, but the "world" doesn't believe that she was true to Cid. Not after Abel was born with wings. Now, Cid knows what may have happen with Abel's conception, that a Cubi tricked May. Yet May is too hurt to listen to that explanation, or That Cid seems to distrust May, in her eyes..
This will not end good if May continues down this path.
PBH
Quote from: Sno Wolf on April 21, 2007, 09:08:29 AMI still think Cid's a Cubi. May's reaction to Abel's headwings seems genuine. Compare that to Cid's calm reaction, and I get the feeling he's hiding something. Especially since as an adventurer, you'd think his first reaction would be "kill on sight", son or not.
If Cid's an incubus, he's being a total dick. Accusing his wife of infidelity knowing that she has a scrupulous conscience about it--that's cold. The only way that I could explain that would be that Cid doesn't care *at all* about May.
And even then, I think that Cid would be more credible if he started getting very angry at May. That's unlikely to happen, because it doesn't lend itself to jokes, and arguments over infidelity are kind of like Godwin's law.
I think it's more likely that I'm Abel's father.
Quote from: Sno Wolf on April 21, 2007, 09:08:29 AMMy guess is, Cid's going to let May rant in hopes that Abel and Hennya clear out of the room. Then he's going to explain it to her, and together they're going to explain it to Abel.
I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room. It requires the utmost skill to pull it off. Ready?
Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.
Wheels within wheels!
Seriously, why on Furrae would Cid start deceiving May in an effort to repel bystanders in order to allow him to explain things honestly to her?
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on April 21, 2007, 09:10:11 AMIt sounds more like May was a little too frisky in her younger days before Cid, but the "world" doesn't believe that she was true to Cid.
Yay! Someone agrees with me! May's phrasing suggests that she wasn't unfaithful when they were married, to me. We differ in that I think that May's infidelity might have been during the time when Cid and May were dating.
I have previously said the lady doth protest too much, methinks. I had no clue, however, that *that* was the reason why.
I have nothing to say about this conflict.
Quote from: superluser on April 21, 2007, 10:03:07 AM
I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room. It requires the utmost skill to pull it off. Ready?
Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.
Just one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch. Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 21, 2007, 11:49:02 AM
Quote from: superluser on April 21, 2007, 10:03:07 AM
I have an even more cunning and devious plan to get Abel and Hennya to leave the room. It requires the utmost skill to pull it off. Ready?
Step one: Cid says, ``Kids, leave the room.''
Step two: Abel and Hennya leave the room.
Just one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch. Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.
Also, Abel and Hennya aren't goats... OR ARE THEY?! :U
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 21, 2007, 11:49:02 AMJust one small nitpick - Abel is probably sufficiently shellshocked to obey regardless, but since he's 24 or so (and Hennya is about the same) he is not a 'kid' by any stretch. Cid can't really just order them around like that since they've both reached their majority.
Cid: The damn I can't! This is my house, and Hennya is here only because I let her. If I want her to go, she will go. Now, of her own volition, or in a minute or two when I call the cops. And Abel, you may be old enough to drink, but you're still my son. When you're off at school, you can get blotto and put tattoos all over your body, but when you're under *my* roof and eating *my* food, which *I* pay for, you will do what I say. Both of you think you're so old and wise in your mid-twenties. But to me, you're just punk kids. Now go!
Or, Hennya and Abel could realize that when Abel's parents want to fight and don't want either of them to see it, it's probably polite to leave when asked.
oh, please. I'm an adult, and I still get out of a room if my parents tell me to. Realistically, if this was the fight my parents were having, I'd already be edging out, unless they were blocking the only door.
Quote from: Damaris on April 21, 2007, 12:06:08 PM
oh, please. I'm an adult, and I still get out of a room if my parents tell me to. Realistically, if this was the fight my parents were having, I'd already be edging out, unless they were blocking the only door.
I don't think that's in dispute, notwithstanding that Abel may still be too spaced out to realise what's going on (in which case it falls to Hennya to gently lead him away).
My real question is that Superluser's use of the word 'kids' to describe them made me wonder whether he was still thinking in terms of them being minors, although that would seem not to be the case.
The other point is whether Abel is actually living with his parents. I got the impression that he was just visiting them. In #29 Cid seems to be catching up with him which to me suggests that they haven't seen each other for a few months.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 21, 2007, 12:20:09 PMThe other point is whether Abel is actually living with his parents. I got the impression that he was just visiting them.
Doesn't matter. Abel's not paying them rent, and I doubt that he bought those eggs. So Cid could still use that line. I thought the ``when you're off at school'' line should have indicated that Abel isn't living with them, but when he visits, he's supposed to abide by their rules.
Now, before I get too carried away here (too late?), this is all conjecture, and in no way should be taken to reflect what Amber would actually want the characters to do, or the living situation between them.
If Amber asked me to write this page of Abel's story, and Cid was supposed to reveal in private that he was an incubus to May, and thus wanted Abel and Hennya to leave, I'd have him tell them to leave. If they refused to leave (which doesn't make sense for those two, and I wouldn't write them that way), the above dialogue is what I would have Cid say.
Edit: also, not because that's the type of person that Cid is, but rather because he's trying to engineer a response--in the former, he's acting on Abel's tendency towards politely obeying his parents, while in the latter, he's trying to make Abel have an ``OSHI--my father's going nuts. It's really not safe for me to be here'' reaction. It's also why Cid would refer to Abel's clan mark as a tattoo, even if he knew that it was a clan mark.
If he's trying to look nuts, he's failing miserably, as he seems pretty calm as compared to May.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 21, 2007, 02:47:01 PMIf he's trying to look nuts, he's failing miserably, as he seems pretty calm as compared to May.
Yup. So it's likely he's not trying to get Abel out of the room so that he can explain something to May in private.
*Charline bah* Too much chatter, not enough slaughter. I hate it when people try to talk through their marital problems instead of simply throwing things and stabbing each other with various pointy objects. >:3
Your folks where creepy Charline...
Quote from: superluser on April 21, 2007, 02:01:38 AM
May says that her friends brought up the issue of infidelity. We never saw that. Means that we're probably going to see it in the future. Maybe Devin's mom? May says that friends started questioning her fidelity after the town, but that doesn't mean that the town didn't continue to question it afterwards.
I think Sally was her friend at one point.. and thats what she is referring to when she says her friends brought it up
Quote from: Aurawyn on April 21, 2007, 11:00:02 PMI think Sally was her friend at one point.. and thats what she is referring to when she says her friends brought it up
Doesn't sound like it. Sally calls her ``Mrs. Rewanz,'' and I doubt that she would do that if she were on a personal basis with May.
P.S. l'esprit de l'escalier:
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 21, 2007, 12:20:09 PMAbel may still be too spaced out to realise what's going on (in which case it falls to Hennya to gently lead him away).
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_530.php
When is Cid going to turn into a cubi ? If that happened, it would vastly simlify the plot, or is it a case of .... " all options must be left open on this subject for later concideration " ?
What are you even talking about? :<
Well, it appears that May was unfaithful a long time ago, and she is wanting to just leave it in the past and forget about it, and (from her point of view) everyone is refusing to let it die in the past.
But in turn it came up but to think about it if she left that past it could of happened before she was dating Cid and had a Lover on the side it could be possible.
Or the theory of the Succubus disguised as Cid impregnated May and *viola* Abel is there in her belly.
I don't know there are other theory's like Cid is the Succubus and I don't believe that at this point.
SUCCUBI ARE FEMALE.
Seriously. I let you get away with all your other usual useless and/or obvious posts that you seek to make in every thread, but now you're really just pissing me off that I find it impossible not to want to give you a verbal lambasting.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on April 27, 2007, 04:25:05 PMOr the theory of the Succubus disguised as Cid impregnated May and *viola* Abel is there in her belly.
Viola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola)? I think someone needs to take sex-ed again. I'm throwing the gauntlet down. Anyone who mixes this word with voila (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/voila) will get mocked mercilessly by me. (Though probably not on the forum)
Also, for the record, succubi are masculine. Female, but grammatically masculine.
Quote from: superluser on April 27, 2007, 05:08:32 PM
Viola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola)? I think someone needs to take sex-ed again. I'm throwing the gauntlet down. Anyone who mixes this word with voila (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/voila) will get mocked mercilessly by me. (Though probably not on the forum)
No, please. Keep it on the forum - I might learn something. Or join in, depending on the day...
Quote from: ShiningShadow on April 27, 2007, 04:25:05 PM
But in turn it came up but to think about it if she left that past it could of happened before she was dating Cid and had a Lover on the side it could be possible.
Or the theory of the Succubus disguised as Cid impregnated May and *viola* Abel is there in her belly.
I don't know there are other theory's like Cid is the Succubus and I don't believe that at this point.
I think he meant Incubus, since Succubi are female, but Incubi are male. Just a supposition.
Of course he meant Incubus. But, honestly, we're hoping that tough love and mocking him mercilessly for the mistake will switch a lightbulb on in his head, making him realized that research, spelling, and punctuation are not a myth that should be ignored. Yes, people make mistakes... but come on.
so it appears to me that he read Cid's mind, killed him, and shapeshifted into him to cheat on may, and when he went on "adventuring", he was actually doing cubi affairs.
That or it seems Cid have been a cubi all along.