Poll
Question:
Is Keaton awesome?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 8
Option 2: Yes
votes: 4
Option 3: You couldn't think of a good replacement poll, could you?
votes: 13
...Which Will Probably Die Five Days After the Grand Opening Because Keaton's a Lazy B$%@h.
The title that I couldn't fit.
Anyway, this here is my art topic, and... since I'm sort of new to the whole 'Indexing' thing I may make a few mistakes. *crosses fingers* Here's hoping this lasts.
Request Status:Check here to see if I'm open enough to do requests. I warn you in advance that I tend to juggle projects, so expect a considerable wait depending on the time I have and the opportunity I grab a pencil.REQUESTS ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED and will remain so until all the commissions are finished.
First Art Batch:Because I have no life, here's just some DMFA fanart for now, two of which are new, one of which is one of my old favorites from a long while back.DMFA: My Best Friends (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-DevinsBestFriends.jpg)
DMFA: Abel Headshot (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Abel.jpg)
DMFA: Monster in Pink (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-7.jpg)
--To Do List--
So that way I don't forget. Check back here to see updates on upcoming projects. This list will occasionally drop projects I've lost interest in, or have decided I can't fulfill them--but this does not count for requests.
- TOP PRIORITY: Finish commissions
- TOP PRIORITY: Super-special project (1 out of 33 finished)
- GiftArt for Gareeku, Ink, Turnsky, Ren Gaulen, and Tapewolf
- Draw Insanity
--100 Themes List: Katherine "Keaton" Jyraneth--
1: Introductions (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg161230.html#msg161230)
- FINISHED2. Love
3. Light
4. Dark (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg163234.html#msg163234)
- FINISHED5. Seeking Solace
6. Break Away
7. Heaven
8. Innocence
9. Drive
10. Breathe Again
11. Memory
12. Insanity
13. Misfortune
14. Smile
15. Silence
16. Questioning
17. Blood
18. Rainbow
19. Gray
20. Fortitude
21. Vacation
22. Mother Nature
23. Cat
24. No Time
25. Trouble Lurking
26. Tears
27. Foreign
28. Sorrow
29. Happiness
30. Under the Rain
31. Flowers
32. Night
33. Expectations
34. Stars
35. Hold My Hand
36. Precious Treasure
37. Eyes
38. Abandoned
39. Dreams
40. Rated
41. Teamwork
42. Standing Still
43. Dying
44. Two Roads
45. Illusion
46. Family
47. Creation
48. Childhood (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg183353.html#msg183353) -
FINISHED49. Stripes
50. Breaking the Rules
51. Sport
52. Deep in Thought
53. Keeping a Secret
54. Tower
55. Waiting
56. Danger Ahead
57. Sacrifice
58. Kick in the Head
59. No Way Out
60. Rejection
61. Fairy Tale
62. Magic (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg174287.html#msg174287) -
FINISHED63. Do Not Disturb
64. Multitasking
65. Horror (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg196388.html#msg196388) -
FINISHED66. Traps
67. Playing the Melody
68. Hero (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg196233.html#msg196233) -
FINISHED69. Annoyance
70. 67%
71. Obsession
72. Mischief Managed
73. I Can't
74. Are You Challenging Me? (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg180624.html#msg180624) -
FINISHED75. Mirror
76. Broken Pieces (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg189799.html#msg189799) -
FINISHED77. Test
78. Drink
79. Starvation
80. Words
81. Pen and Paper
82. Can You Hear Me?
83. Heal
84. Out Cold (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg193195.html#msg193195) -
FINISHED85. Spiral
86. Seeing Red
87. Food
88. Pain
89. Through the Fire
90. Triangle
91. Drowning
92. All That I Have
93. Give Up
94. Last Hope
95. Advertisement
96. In the Storm
97. Safety First
98. Puzzle (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg197255.html#msg197255) -
FINISHED99. Solitude
100. Relaxation
--Art Index--
Posted artwork in order of release date and grouped by series and color.January 2008Hrafn (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg82859#msg82859)
Xianxi, Keaton's Warp-Aci (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg83549#msg83549)
Zedtan Ridley-d'Ombre (WIP) (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg84668#msg84668)
Darius Cyra (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg86205#msg86205)
February 2007The Two Colored Versions of Xianxi (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg87863#msg87863)
...And Zedd Colored! (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg88918#msg88918)
Soul Calibur III: Tira, the Nightmare of Christmas (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg93445#msg93445)
For Zina's Contest: Sharing the CPD (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg100928#msg100928)
April 2007Attack of the Original Characters: Piix Raiyn Daei'lunn (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg104360#msg104360)
Xze-Xze's Request: Xzeliea (WIP) (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg106086#msg106086)
May 2007Jyraneth, the Clan Leader (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg118504#msg118504)
Kamei'Sin Clan Marking (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg119076#msg119076)
Tapewolf's Request: Johan Cross (WIP) (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg120764#msg120764)
Johan Cross Colored! (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg121572#msg121572)
June 2007Keaton : Headshot (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg122009#msg122009)
Keaton: The Same Headshot, Colored (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg122340#msg122340)
Xzeliea Inked (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg123456#msg123456)
Xzeliea Colored! (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg123872#msg123872)
July 2007From Chronicles of the Ivory Bridge: Alice the Banette (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg130923#msg130923)
SUPER-SPECIAL-AWESOME PROJECT BOO YAH. (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg134667#msg134667)
Keaton: Now for Something Completely Different (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg135097#msg135097)
August 2007Keaton: DeviantArt ID (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg135733#msg135733)
Hrafn: Colored (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg136396#msg136396)
For Zedd: Oni (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg138544#msg138544)
Lianna - Post-Jyraneth Empire (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg138928#msg138928)
Soul Calibur III: Tira, Tira, Tira (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg139141#msg139141)
Lianna : Before and After the Calamity (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg139727#msg139727)
Soul Calibur III: Blood on These Goddamn Hills - WARNING: Contains Violence (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg140631#msg140631)
September 2007For Paladin Sheppard: Ephrael (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg141032#msg141032)
For xHaZxMaTx: Jonas and Keaton (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg142283#msg142283)
For Netrogo: Net Mecha-Mousie (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg142549#msg142549)
For BillBuckner: Dorsey (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg143312#msg143312)
Watch the Shadows Burn: Aeriko and Kytharion Sketches (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg143899#msg143899)
Watch the Shadows Burn: The Keaton Clan - Noah, Jasmine, Esmeralda, Elizabeth, Salem, and Sierra (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg144316#msg144316)
Watch the Shadows Burn: Tikal (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg145430#msg145430)
Queen Xexilene: Queen of the Orin (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg146124#msg146124)
Watch the Shadows Burn: In the Heart of the Calamity (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg146668#msg146668) - WARNING: Contains Violence
October 2007Keaton: Bebe Keaton (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg149404#msg149404)
Watch the Shadows Burn: Tikal and Elysium (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg150954#msg150954)
DMFA: Hennya (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg151694#msg151694)
Dietricha (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg153835#msg153835)
December 2007Secret Santa 2007: for Fixxation (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg168073.html#msg168073)
January 2008The Revamped Red Queen: Jyraneth, the Clan Leader (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg171854.html#msg171854)
March 2008Gifts for Others, Gifts for Self: Part 1 of the Art Jam (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg180086.html#msg180086)
Cel Shading and Colored Lines Experiment Using Alice the Banette (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg190440.html#msg190440)
May 2008Preview: Panel 1 of 98: Puzzle, Colored (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg195351.html#msg195351)
June 2008100 Themes #98, in its original, uncolored state (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg195077.html#msg195077)
Attack of the Original Characters: Dekuyaketh (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg197876.html#msg197876)
Commission #1: ShadesFox (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg198863.html#msg198863)
Con Badges, Version 1 and 2 (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg199052.html#msg199052)
July 2008Robin, for Zedd (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg205170.html#msg205170)
Commission #2: Cogidubnus (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg211370.html#msg211370)
August 2008Inked Azrael, from Project Future (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg220692.html#msg220692)
September 2008Anatomy Practice in the form of an unfinished picture (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg226422.html#msg226422)
Piix's New Clothes (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg229559.html#msg229559)
October 2008Preview from Tapewolf's Commission: The Big Bad Wolf (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg232453.html#msg232453)
And the same wolf, errors corrected (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg233440.html#msg233440)
December 2008Siegfried Nox, as drawn by Ren Gaulen and inked and colored by myself (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg252180.html#msg252180)
Commission #3: xHaZxMaTx (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg252934.html#msg252934)
February 2009Commission #4: Mao Laoren (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg261807.html#msg261807)
Oubliette for Vexy - Inking Stage (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg263730.html#msg263730)
Oubliette for Vexy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg264466.html#msg264466)
Secret Santa 2008: Hoppin (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg265662.html#msg265662)
April 2009Commission #5: Tapewolf (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg274156.html#msg274156)
May 2009Fi for the DMFA 1000th strip celebratory image. (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg280746.html#msg280746)
July 2009A portrait of Constantine and Haz's con badge (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg289133.html#msg289133)
October 2009More sparkledogs to distract people from the fact I'm lazy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg299315.html#msg299315)
I show I'm slightly less lazy by posting a preview of one of Paladin Sheppard's commissions; the world implodes due to this paradoxical phenomenon (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg301115.html#msg301115)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Aww soo cute
Very cute indeed! Awesome artwork, Keaton, I especially like the Abel pic. :3
OMFG IT SUX0RZ! U CAN'T DRAW! >:O
*ducks and dodges the thrown fridges* Kidding! Kidding! :P
God, I missed you and your style! Drag your boytoyfriend away from the Wii and tell him to color these for Extra Win!
The Xander and Abel plooshies are cute as heck, and Devin looks happy-innocent there; a welcome change from his in-canon scenes :)
Abel looks... grumpy-pouting, which fits quite well for his... let's say... end-of-SAIA-arc self. Nice work with his expression, even though I have trouble finding a good caption for it ^^;
Regina... my intuition told me that you got her feet wrong since I expected her to have hooves, but after checking the wallpaper, it turns out that her feet really look that way. She looks a bit more innocent than usual, mostly because of her not doing the Evil Smirk of Doom. You seem to be on a good-vibrations trip there, seeing how Devin also looks nicer than usual :)
Overall, your pics are as awesome as always, only better. And don't worry - I will poke you if you slack off >:3
The Abel one has a somewhat angular look to it, but apart from that it's good. I've always like the Regina one, as for Devin, it's rather poignant. Whether that was your aim, I do not know.
I love your style, The eyes...I don't know but I like how you draw them they fit your style. :)
Booha~!
QuoteThe Abel one has a somewhat angular look to it, but apart from that it's good. I've always like the Regina one, as for Devin, it's rather poignant. Whether that was your aim, I do not know.
Ahhh, some constructive criticism. *rolls up sleeves* My boyfriend had mentioned the angularness of Abel's hair as well, and that was just me going a little bit too crazy with the hair. XD That's what happens when I sketch, rather than draw freehand, like I did with the Regina picture--which I'm glad you liked. As for the Devin image, I merely drew it because I thought the concept would be cute, and not because I wanted to be manipulative in any way. Also because I felt somewhat sorry for his younger self. ...though, *checks the definition for the word poignant, and notices the multiple descriptions* I'm just going for the first immediate one which means "keenly distressing to the feelings". XD;
Quote*ducks and dodges the thrown fridges* Kidding! Kidding! :P
God, I missed you and your style! Drag your boytoyfriend away from the Wii and tell him to color these for Extra Win!
The Xander and Abel plooshies are cute as heck, and Devin looks happy-innocent there; a welcome change from his in-canon scenes :)
Abel looks... grumpy-pouting, which fits quite well for his... let's say... end-of-SAIA-arc self. Nice work with his expression, even though I have trouble finding a good caption for it ^^;
Regina... my intuition told me that you got her feet wrong since I expected her to have hooves, but after checking the wallpaper, it turns out that her feet really look that way. She looks a bit more innocent than usual, mostly because of her not doing the Evil Smirk of Doom. You seem to be on a good-vibrations trip there, seeing how Devin also looks nicer than usual :)
Oh. O_O *lowers the next projectile, which happens to be a sofa* Jeez, Sid, thanks for the really in-depth comment! XD I might as well respond to it *cracks knuckles*
First, about the Abel picture, I'm really happy you like it--and that you were able to get a good expression off of it when, in my opinion, there wasn't =P It was more of a lazy thing. XD I really did it more for practice of the spots and the hair, which I always loved in the comic. XD
As for Regina, blah, I never liked her feet. =P I'm more happy with her torso, chest *cough*, hair, and wings. X3 Yet it's still one of my favorites.
And about Devin... I'm really happy you enjoy this one, too. XD Especially the cuteness. That was my biggest intention with this picture, just to make people go 'awwww :D'. Maybe I should color this one... it'd be pretty easy, too since it isn't all that detailed, except for Abel's spots, which are going to be lots of HATE.
Wow, thanks for the comments, everybody! I'm glad you guys like the art. Here's the next picture, but it's rather flawed. I'm well aware that the forelegs seem to be protruding awkwardly out of the chest itself--that's going to be fixed eventually in the inking process. I'm still pretty fond of the picture, though, because of most of her body itself, because it came out well since I don't draw quadrepeds often, and I adore her hair. XD This WILL be colored one day.
Hrafn (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-HrafnDoom.jpg)
I don't care what any of you say, Pokemon can still be cool. :P Except for the TV show. The games rock. The show never made me look at the game the same way again until I was fourteen.~Keaton the Black Jackal
I missed seeing your art around here. I'm rather fond of your style. Don't stop postiiiiiing.
I love the picture of Devin, it's adorable. Diabete's inducing, even. Makes me want an Abel and Xander doll, as well.
The Regina one looks a little off to me. Either one of her legs is longer than the other, or the knees are in different places on each. I do like all the detail you put on her, though. Regina can be a pain to draw. I tried it once. I'm still recovering. D:
Hee, Houndoom. <3 One of my favorite pokemon. I love the pose and the way you did the paws. I would look at defining the chest/stomach area, as right now it looks like she's all legs.
Keep posting art herrrre. D:
Lovely style!
Strong angular lines give quite an air of confidence to your work. Simple, strong, and clean.
Quote from: Zina on January 21, 2007, 04:19:51 PM
I missed seeing your art around here. I'm rather fond of your style. Don't stop postiiiiiing.
I love the picture of Devin, it's adorable. Diabete's inducing, even. Makes me want an Abel and Xander doll, as well.
The Regina one looks a little off to me. Either one of her legs is longer than the other, or the knees are in different places on each. I do like all the detail you put on her, though. Regina can be a pain to draw. I tried it once. I'm still recovering. D:
Hee, Houndoom. <3 One of my favorite pokemon. I love the pose and the way you did the paws. I would look at defining the chest/stomach area, as right now it looks like she's all legs.
Keep posting art herrrre. D:
I missed posting it here, really--I'm surprised I didn't sign up to the new forum sooner. I'll certainly keep posting... Otherwise Sid'll hit me. D:
I'm really glad you like the Devin picture, it's one of my favorites. >D Lil' Devin needed some love, so I gave it to him... in the form of adorable plushies of his favorite nemesis and Adventuring partner.
After inspecting the legs on the Regina picture, I realized that you're absolutely right--the legs ARE off, holy crap. Originally I intended for them to be so because her foot was elevated on a stone, but the leg length is... eek. Crap. If only I spotted this error sooner... thanks a lot for pointing it out. =)
Houndoom needs lots and lots of luv. Oddly enough, I've never, ever had one for my Gameboy game. O_o Huh. The pose and the paws, besides the hair, are probably my favorite aspects about the picture as well. As for the stomach area, you're right--I'll need to look at that one and examine the picture closely.
Thanks so much for your comments, everybody! I really need to change the title of this topic so that way it'll reflect new updates. That way, everybody can know when I've updated and not that I'm just bumping an old topic into infinity. =P
Here is the next picture, of my character Keaton's Warp-Aci, Xianxi.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Xiaxi.jpg)
Name: Xianxi
Nicknames: Xia
Age: 10
Status: Owner (Katherine Beatrix Jyraneth (Keaton the Black Jackal))
Family: Unknown
Species: Warp-Aci
Hobbies: Obeying orders, transporting menial objects or performing equally menial tasks
Hair Colour: None
Eye Colour: White
Often Seen: Serving Keaton
Most known for: Living past the usual expiration date among Keaton's Warp-Aci.
Favorite Food: None
Favorite Colour: None
Special Abilities: Teleportation,
slightly stronger than the average Warp-Aci
Best Trait: Dedicated, determined
Worst Trait: Self-depreciating, lacks confidence, servile
Xianxi (pronounced Zee-yan-zee) is the longest-living Warp Aci of Keaton's, as most of them have either been 'removed' from this plane in one way or another due to an accident in a carelessly-assigned, dangerous task, or have just been stripped of their postion and sent back home when Keaton grew tired of them or they didn't satisfy her perfectionist standards.
As you can see, Keaton's a rather frivolous person, and demands only the finest efforts from her Warp-Aci, who she treats as her subordinates rather than anything else. If anything, Xianxi is the closest thing to that standard of monotone obedience she's summoned so far. Xianxi is a very stoic creature, dedicated solely to obeying its orders and carrying them out with discipline and efficiency. Pumped full of brainwashing emotions and thoughts that have completely erased his former self, he now exists only to serve both Keaton and the legacy of Clan Jyraneth, and nothing else. Because of this, he constantly tends to his mistress's every whim, feeling restless whenever he's left idle, and even degenerating into desperate insanity. While resolute on the outside, he suffers from lack of self esteem and an almost disturbing need to serve, and Keaton likes it that way--especially the fact that he would do ANYTHING that she demands from him, no matter how outrageous or unscrupulous.
Not to mention his schizophrenic, servile, somewhat insane nature.Trivia:- Xianxi is modeled after the clan leader of Keaton's clan, Jyraneth. She was rumored to resemble an anubis of some sort, so it became the legendary icon of the clan. The heads of Keaton's wing-tentacles are designed in a similar way.
- Xianxi doesn't tolerate failure of any kind, especially his own. He never speaks unless spoken to, and even then only opens his nonexistent mouth when Keaton permits it, or when she is talking to him.
- Xianxi is stronger than the average Warp-Aci, thanks to the spell that summoned him. However, he is still not strong enough to ursurp dominance from Keaton--and even if he could, he wouldn't dare to. He only has enough power to get the job done, and to at least put up a fight against potential threats.
- Xianxi modifies his tail so that way the two prongs forking the tip fuse together before he teleports people and things.
Hope you guys enjoyed the little backstory. :3 Xianxi is still under construction, so he's prone to little revisions of his history and personality. When it updates, I'll inform you with the next picture.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
yay! *gives him a hug*
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 22, 2007, 07:06:37 PM
I'm really glad you like the Devin picture, it's one of my favorites. >D Lil' Devin needed some love, so I gave it to him... in the form of adorable plushies of his favorite nemesis and Adventuring partner.
Pedantic I know, but we don't know who actually did kill Devin yet...
Yes, it's a nice picture, it's just kind of sad when you know what's going to happen later.
Quote
Houndoom needs lots and lots of luv.
I don't know the reference, but it's well drawn, if somewhat skinny.
QuoteHere is the next picture, of my character Keaton's Warp-Aci, Xianxi.
Warp Aci as we've seen them tend to be somewhat more dumpy and ill-defined. In other words, your picture is too good - although it will probably look more like your regular Aci if it's coloured in and given a halo of energy around it.
And the backstory is making me curious. I certainly wouldn't want to work for Keaton... does she currently feature in any stories or stuff? And who designed the clan symbol?
why do animie characters look so syrupy sweet looking?
Nothing like logging in at the comp. pool and getting an Abel's Story AND a KBJ pic! :)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 22, 2007, 07:06:37 PM
I'll certainly keep posting... Otherwise Sid'll hit me. D:
I'll totally do it! Don't think I won't! *waves fridge* >:O
Bit more on-topic again, the Warp-Aci is cute without being
too cute. The "Look, I just work here, okay?" expression works nice in combination with the backstory. Lastly, the split tail is a nice touch in my eyes.
I just wonder what his aura color would be (I assume it would be based on Katherine's influence, just like Fi's color changed, depending on current owner)...
If I remember correctly, you also had designs for your Cubi character on the old forum or so... I (just like Tapewolf) certainly would be interested in more information about the character and the associated Clan. :)
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 22, 2007, 07:32:00 PMWarp Aci as we've seen them tend to be somewhat more dumpy and ill-defined. In other words, your picture is too good - although it will probably look more like your regular Aci if it's coloured in and given a halo of energy around it.
And the backstory is making me curious. I certainly wouldn't want to work for Keaton... does she currently feature in any stories or stuff? And who designed the clan symbol?
Once more, thanks for the constructive criticism--it's much appreciated. And I've already asked someone to try and color it--but as a head's up, Xianxi's aura and clan marking are both white, almost like the neutral state of a Warp-Aci (as displayed by Fi shortly after being ejected from the portal in the sword). As for Keaton... she isn't featured in any stories yet, but she's steadily being worked on as we speak. Soon I may have a picture up about her, and maybe a profile and some information on her clan. I designed the clan marking personally.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/JyranethSymbol.jpg)
The Jyraneth clan marking itself.
QuoteI'll totally do it! Don't think I won't! *waves fridge* >:O
Bit more on-topic again, the Warp-Aci is cute without being too cute. The "Look, I just work here, okay?" expression works nice in combination with the backstory. Lastly, the split tail is a nice touch in my eyes.
I just wonder what his aura color would be (I assume it would be based on Katherine's influence, just like Fi's color changed, depending on current owner)...
If I remember correctly, you also had designs for your Cubi character on the old forum or so... I (just like Tapewolf) certainly would be interested in more information about the character and the associated Clan.
Heh, it's great to see another comment from you, Sid. =P If you keep this up I'll probably start to expect these from you, meaning I'll keep bugging you until you respond. >=O And I'm very happy this picture is being well-recieved... and that you liked the expression and tail. I wasn't really going for a bored expression, but rather a monotone, drained one, as though constantly exhausted or completely resolute.
In response to your questions, just scroll a bit up toward my response to Tapewolf. I WOULD post my sketches for Keaton, but are no longer relevant to the character's design, which has evolved greatly since the last time I drew Keaton. Maybe I'll get a proper picture up of her.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
A couple more comments about the warp-aci - firstly, while the split tail is kind of cool, it's going to impact its ability to actually warp. Going by the Demonology, the tail is used to cut through dimensional boundaries - what a forked tail like that would do to the fabric of spacetime I don't care to venture.
Of course, being somewhat polymorphic it might well be that they morph the tail into a more suitable shape when actually warping and split it again afterwards.
Secondly, I've never really liked warp-acis, but the more I look at this one, the more tempted I am to add one in the next series of Pettersohn stories.
"Gah," I said. "Forget it! I know some people think they're for girls, and frankly I don't care about that, but have you ever met one of those irritating little beasts? You can sit there in the dark for four days and nights or more, concentrating on the spell of summoning, and what do you get out of it? A whiny little nuisance that's wholly dependent on you for the rest of your life. They're always eating, and they don't necessarily care whose food they take, I might add. Started a lot of arguments at SAIA, I can tell you."
--CJP chapter 7 (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=691.msg43514#msg43514)
:erk :eager :hug :knifed :headdesk :banghead
I shoulda came in here sooner!!!
SWEET art!!
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 24, 2007, 07:30:28 AM
A couple more comments about the warp-aci - firstly, while the split tail is kind of cool, it's going to impact its ability to actually warp. Going by the Demonology, the tail is used to cut through dimensional boundaries - what a forked tail like that would do to the fabric of spacetime I don't care to venture.
Of course, being somewhat polymorphic it might well be that they morph the tail into a more suitable shape when actually warping and split it again afterwards.
Secondly, I've never really liked warp-acis, but the more I look at this one, the more tempted I am to add one in the next series of Pettersohn stories.
"Gah," I said. "Forget it! I know some people think they're for girls, and frankly I don't care about that, but have you ever met one of those irritating little beasts? You can sit there in the dark for four days and nights or more, concentrating on the spell of summoning, and what do you get out of it? A whiny little nuisance that's wholly dependent on you for the rest of your life. They're always eating, and they don't necessarily care whose food they take, I might add. Started a lot of arguments at SAIA, I can tell you."
--CJP chapter 7 (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=691.msg43514#msg43514)
Oof, I never took that into account. Really, I figured it would just be stylish, because I noticed some Warp-Aci here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_541.php) whose tails don't seem paper-like at all. We'll probably assume that Xianxi morphs his tail into a more appropriate shape before warping Keaton back and forth, like you suggested.
Interesting and humorous quote, too. I'm going to need to check out your story... I'll respond to the topic once I've caught up with it.
And woo! Xze-Xze responded to my topic! XD
Quotewhy do animie characters look so syrupy sweet looking?
Heck if I know. :o Honestly, I think it's a conspiracy, but people won't believe me. D:
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Is it alright for me to double-post? Shadrok did it once, so I'm just going to give it a shot...
Not much to say here. Sooner or later I'll work on the contest picture for Zina once I get a good pose idea, and the character design sheet for Keaton, but first up here's a requested picture for none other than Zedd. Hope you like it.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Zedd.jpg)
This picture started out nicely enough, but it was when I moved to the lower body that it grew sort of iffy. So to those who criticize, be a bit gentle, alright? I'm pretty much unhappy with everything about this picture except for the head and a little of the upper body. Oh well. Kudos to me for remembering to put in Zedd's eye markings.
This picture WILL be colored in the future.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
It's definitely Zedd. The lower body does seem a little rushed, but I can't argue with the rest of it. In fact I'll have to study how you did the wings.
It's not as bad as you seem to think.. don't be too hard on yourself.
I love it and ytou should too ^^
Nifty arts. :3
The pic of Zedd seems fine except for his right shoe - it doesn't seem to be at enough of an angle to match the rest of the pic. But that's all I see that's 'wrong'.
Wow, looks like the Zedd picture was better recieved than I thought it would be. Thanks a lot, everybody. :boogie
Since I kind of liked how the wings turned out with the Zedd picture, I decided that I should give it another shot, only this time with a more detailed edge, and in the case of another Cubi character of mine.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Darius.jpg)
Introducing Darius Cyra, the Dark Magic teacher of SAIA. Don't expect to see this guy in any stories, and even if he was going to be in one, he's heavily under construction, and just a concept character. If there's another SAIA RP just like in the original board, he may... just may... make an appearance. Until then, I'll steadily be working on this enigmatic character.
Name: Darius Cyra
Nicknames: Dari
Age: 8,078
Height: 7'3"
Weight: 240 lbs
Status: Teaching at SAIA
Family: Unknown
Species: Great Dane Incubus
Hobbies: Reading, writing, magic
Hair Colour: Rust, with chocolate tips.
Eye Colour: Teal
Often Seen: Teaching, seducing
Most known for: His teaching methods, his abilities with Dark Magic
Favorite Food: Pain, Lust
Favorite Colour: Silver
Special Abilities: Highly skilled at Dark Magic, deep understanding of Light-oriented magic, accomplished at metamorphosis, and skilled with seduction. Element resistant. Has, unfortunately, neglected all other elements such as fire and ice.
Best Trait: Intelligent, confident
Worst Trait: Cutthroat, egomaniacal, sadistic
Personality: Reclusive, inscrutable, and all-around an almost enticing character, Darius is one of the more notorious teachers on SAIA's staff. Renowned for his direct, almost tempestruous teaching methods, and his equal thirst for intelligence, Darius has made teaching his life, and throws himself into his job with as much effort and gusto as he can muster. Having existed for thousands of years, it is no surprise that Darius's experience has garnered quite a considerable amount of know-how, on and off the battlefield, and he effectively brandishes every inkling of knowledge he possesses when before a classroom of students. Behind this clearly shines a sadistic, almost despicably ruthless character, intent on finding amusement wherever he can find it--and often in the most vicious ways. It comes as no surprise that Darius's barbarous nature frequently saturates his teaching, and that he happily holds no regrets about his behavior whatsoever.
Even if his students are visibly unnerved by it.
History: For now, Darius's history is unknown, save for the exceptions of a few members of the SAIA staff. More information on his history will be added as an acceptable biography is created.
Quirks/Fun Facts:
-Darius's favorite author is Edgar Allen Poe.
-In his spare time, Darius is actually a very talented author. Unsurprisingly, he specializes in macabre stories.
-Darius is surprisingly adept at seduction, and has lured many a person to their doom via these lascivious abilities. He has no discriminations about gender, species, or race--they all taste the same to him.
-Darius is absolutely obsessed with dominance for reasons unknown. It could simply be the result of his overinflated ego, but events in his life may have dictated his behavior.
Darius's Quote: "Pain is somewhat of an underappreciated art, really. Sometimes, I don't realize what the fuss is about..."
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hmm... it looks like you've used my composite design for the Cyra Clan marking. :P
Criticisms.. the eye is perhaps too big. I'm curious as to what the ragged thing down his side is, and is he actually wearing anything? It's a little difficult to tell.
That aside, it's nicely done.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 31, 2007, 06:46:36 PM
Hmm... it looks like you've used my composite design for the Cyra Clan marking. :P
Criticisms.. the eye is perhaps too big. I'm curious as to what the ragged thing down his side is, and is he actually wearing anything? It's a little difficult to tell.
That aside, it's nicely done.
You have observed correctly. :P I couldn't find a very detailed or consistent reference from the comic, so I used the more reliable one from Wikipedia.
And ah, I believe you're right with the eye. That little detail ticks me off somewhat... I'll need to fix that one day. As for what the ragged thing down his side is, that's his marking, which covers the entirety of his back, avoiding his wings. As for what he's wearing... uh, not really anything. If I were to draw his lower half, though, he'd likely be sporting a cute little fig leaf over his crotch.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
wikipedia, or wikupedia? :-)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 31, 2007, 07:09:40 PM
As for what the ragged thing down his side is, that's his marking, which covers the entirety of his back, avoiding his wings.
Ah. It looks a little like it's protruding out, see, so I wondered if it was a tattered robe like Zedd's usual attire.
QuoteAs for what he's wearing... uh, not really anything.
Again, I wasn't sure - where his chest meets his neck is an angular shape, which could have been some tight-fitting clothing or apron or something. If I remember tomorrow, I might play around with the eye myself.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 31, 2007, 07:15:37 PM
wikipedia, or wikupedia? :-)
Wik
upedia, my bad. XD Thanks for all your hard work on it, by the way, guys. I might need to contribute to it myself.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on February 01, 2007, 07:58:55 AM
Wikupedia, my bad. XD Thanks for all your hard work on it, by the way, guys. I might need to contribute to it myself.
Reminds me, we need the Dragons article. I'm going to have to get down and rewrite Amber's description since re-licensing her website as GPL is probably not a good idea :P
Oh, and this is what Darius looks like with the eye at half-size:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/darius_neweye.png)
The positioning might need a little adjustment, but it's just an experiment.
(The score at half-time: Symbian 2, Me 1)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2007, 08:15:45 AM
Oh, and this is what Darius looks like with the eye at half-size:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/darius_neweye.png)
The positioning might need a little adjustment, but it's just an experiment.
(The score at half-time: Symbian 2, Me 1)
Hmm, not bad. I think it would need to be a weeeee bit bigger, and to be positioned right (just like you said :P)... then I think it would look pretty darn good. Makes Darius look more mature, too, as I normally attribute large eyes to children.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I've updated the image with a 60%-size eye. The older 50% one can be found here:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/darius_eye50.png
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2007, 08:38:46 AM
I've updated the image with a 60%-size eye. The older 50% one can be found here:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/darius_eye50.png
Ah, that looks much, much better. Thanks a lot for experimenting--it's really appreciated. :) A lot less messy than just erasing and redrawing constantly. Screws with the paper.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Ooookay, yet another double-post. I'M SORRY, MODERATORS! PLEASE DON'T RAIN YOUR RIGHTEOUS WRATH UPON MY UNWORTHY SOUL.
Ahem. That little bit of ass-kissing aside, me and a friend happened to collaborate on the picture of everyone's (okay, just mine) favorite demented Warp-Aci, and as a side-project I did my own version. Mind you, she got the aura and marking color wrong, unfortunately. Blah, it still looks absolutely fantastic. Everyone give Sian a big ol' round of applause! She really deserves it for not only coloring the image, but inking it as well.
HER VERSION (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47239809/?qo=4&q=by%3Asiansilverhair&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps)
MY VERSION (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/XianxiLighningBackground-1.jpg?t=1170729167)
The inking for mine was done in Macromedia Freehand, while the coloring was done in Photoshop CS. The lightning was done thanks to the instructions in a tutorial here (http://www.photoshopcafe.com/tutorials/lightning/lightning.htm).
Enjoy.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You are winner :3
Aye, I definitely prefer the black version.
OOooh wicked stuff there....I like it
Neat shading. I'll have to have a look at that tut.
FWIW, Keaton, double-posts by owners of art threads are generally ignored. Provided you're providing content, of course.... :-)
You're welcome to keep kissing arse, though. :-)
wow 0w0
your art is Kick-ass!
i'd love to see how you'd draw teh Xze <3
(not asking >>)
Keep it up!!! =3
Quote from: Xzeliea Fantra on February 06, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
wow 0w0
your art is Kick-ass!
i'd love to see how you'd draw teh Xze <3
(not asking >>)
Keep it up!!! =3
Hey, thank you, Xze! *bows, bows* And thanks to EVERYBODY for your awesome comments! I really appreciate every last one of them. I'll be sure to work on the next picture as soon as possible... I'm currently working on a profile for my Cubi character which'll be posted along with her image, when I complete it.
Teh Xze, huh? :3 Well, if you give me a proper description/picture of her, I'd be more than happy to try drawing her. Just don't expect a colored version just yet--I'm working on Zedd's picture at the moment. It's in the inking stages, and should be done... uh... I'm not really sure when. But it'll be done, I can tell ya that.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
hm....*thinks* well...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k182/xzexze/Xze/zodiac001.jpg
thats the most recent profile i've made for her...but i've removed all the auto-mail parts (i'm out of my FMA stage >w>; )
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/Rheaspenguinshop/Xzeliea/zodiac059.jpg
that's what her..left? right?...whatever...angel wing looks like w/out the auto-mail parts...and hopefully you can guess her arm and leg XD *serches her photobucket just in case*
Quote from: Xzeliea Fantra on February 07, 2007, 11:17:46 AM
hm....*thinks* well...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k182/xzexze/Xze/zodiac001.jpg
thats the most recent profile i've made for her...but i've removed all the auto-mail parts (i'm out of my FMA stage >w>; )
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/Rheaspenguinshop/Xzeliea/zodiac059.jpg
that's what her..left? right?...whatever...angel wing looks like w/out the auto-mail parts...and hopefully you can guess her arm and leg XD *serches her photobucket just in case*
Hmm, okay, I think that's just enough reference for me to work on a picture, but like I said, it'll take me a long while. I'll try my best to get this all worked out. :3
Okay, so fresh out of Photoshop, I've finally got Zedd's picture finished!
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/ZeddSmaller.jpg)
I guess I'm happy with how everything turned out, but the wings were lots of HATE. It was difficult shading all of the different hues of black, especially when you use a black brush to do the shading itself. I'm not as gleeful over this picture as I am with the one of Xianxi, though, since there is no background (I'm really not all that great at adding backgrounds--the only reason I was able to do that with the other picture was because the outerglow concealed all of the stray pixels, and I wanted to properly show off Xianxi's white aura.
But here it is. I hope you like it, Zedd!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on February 09, 2007, 02:47:24 PM
Okay, so fresh out of Photoshop, I've finally got Zedd's picture finished!
Well personally, I think you're on to a winner with that one. In fact, if you're taking requests...
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/jakob/
I really like this picture
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2007, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on February 09, 2007, 02:47:24 PM
Okay, so fresh out of Photoshop, I've finally got Zedd's picture finished!
Well personally, I think you're on to a winner with that one. In fact, if you're taking requests...
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/jakob/
Woot! Victory! Both Tapewolf and Zedd like the picture!
As for requests, I'm taking them, but I'm absolutely horrible at tending to them. I'd be more than happy to draw your character, however, Tapewolf. :) I need to churn out more art anyway, and your character has quite the vivid, awesome backstory.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*pounces on teh Zedd picture*
SO AWESOME!!! :mowninja
Blah, updating this topic with old art from last year so to prevent this topic from dropping off the map entirely. That would suck.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/SCIII_The_Nightmare_of_X_Mas_by_Kea.jpg)
Those who have played Soul Calibur III may or may not recognize the scantily-clad young lady with the hulahoop-shaped weapon here. Her name is Tira, a bipolar, mega-freaking-insane assassin murderer who serves the Azure Knight, Nightmare, and slaughters people for him. I'm currently working on a fanfiction detailing her history--if anyone's interested, I'll post the link sometime since I'm shy about showing off my fanfiction in its own topic. *blushes and snickers*
This was done for the Tira fanclub on DeviantArt, hence the Christmas theme. Sooner or later this picture will be colored, since I've already completed the inking from a while back. I just need to work on the f#$king ringblade.
My apologies go to those who have requested pictures of their characters--this may take longer than originally anticipated, since I need to finish a picture that I owe Zina for her contest, and a Valentine's picture for mah boyfriend. Until then, please be patient with me. Things have been hectic lately.
Well, I have places to go and people to see. ...well actually, not really. As I type this message I'm in school, and the most I see is the beta fish that the Math teacher keeps.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Nice
Not feeling at my best, so I'm gonna make this as quick as possible. This here is my submission for Zina's contest. The objective of the contest is to draw a character of the artist's interacting with her character, Tristan, and somehow incorporating the theme 'music' into the image.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Tristan.jpg?t=1174247330)
The scene is simple: Keaton, as portrayed for the first time in chibi form, is enlightening Tristan about the existence of an excellent swing band known as the Cherry Poppin' Daddies (please please please don't laugh. XD I know it's a stupid name), which is responsible for songs such as 'Dr. Bones', 'Zoot Suit Riot', and 'Brown Derby Jump'. Simple, like I said.
I had to finish this thing in record time, so there are probably a zillion things wrong with it. I'm not used to full body shots, so there's a lot of anatomy errors. XD;
~Keaton the Black Jackal
PS: I REALLY hope I don't get in trouble for the topic-revival. If it's a problem, I'll make a new one.
First chance to look through your pictures, and I gotta say that's some nice art you've got, K. :3 Looking forward to more.
I really like it
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 18, 2007, 03:51:07 PM
PS: I REALLY hope I don't get in trouble for the topic-revival. If it's a problem, I'll make a new one.
*cough* *Your* topic, in the Tower of Art (and -only- the Tower of Art) gets some leeway.
The mods are not rabid. Well... we're not -all- rabid. Much. ;-]
so are you going to draw Jakob in the near future?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 18, 2007, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 18, 2007, 03:51:07 PM
PS: I REALLY hope I don't get in trouble for the topic-revival. If it's a problem, I'll make a new one.
*cough* *Your* topic, in the Tower of Art (and -only- the Tower of Art) gets some leeway.
The mods are not rabid. Well... we're not -all- rabid. Much. ;-]
Phew. XD Just making sure that everything's a-okay. I didn't want to accidentally break a rule.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 18, 2007, 08:18:30 PM
so are you going to draw Jakob in the near future?
Absolutely. Now that the contest picture is out of the way, I can do the request pictures that are piled up.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I thought I'd replied to this, but apparently it got lost in a browser crash.
Just to say, nice one of Tristan. Keaton herself I'm not sure I've seen before, so I don't have a frame of reference for her in chibified form.
Not feeling at my best, physically, so I'm going to keep this update as short and sweet as possible... which means I'll probably start off ambiguously but then go into some almighty tangent that nobody will read. :P
I kid. I kid.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Piix2.jpg?t=1175526023)
To those who have requested pictures, I apologize sincerely for the wait. There's no real excuse for this. I just absolutely suck crap at completing requests as I've learned from disappointing experiences. However, keep your eyes open--I am NOT going to abandon anything. I have poses ready (stolen from books and such :P) and the pictures in mind. Once more, I'm sorry for the wait.
About the picture. You'll notice that this isn't a DMFA-based work, nor a recognizable character from any popular fandom. That's because it isn't. This is Piix, a character I've had for three years of my life and who has went through severe evolutions from a poorly-concieved ripoff of a Pokemon-Digimon combination to her own alien species, complete with countless bits of information. Hopefully, I'm planning on writing a story about Piix and her companions in a future date once I come up with an original plot and have finished developing the characters... one that I hope on getting published.
For those who have any questions regarding Piix and her species, I'll be happy to answer.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Cute and nicely-drawn. Somewhat malnourished, although that would seem to be a general trait with your art style. Besides, many of the characters you've drawn don't need to eat anyway...
A most adorable picture, K! Reminds me somewhat of a Norn from the game Creatures 2, but a lot more evolved. And probably a little more behaved. xD Love the feet and claws, and the name. A little thin yeah, but that's your style.
Very well-done. :3
Thank you all for your comments, everyone, but I never realized that Piix appeared malnourished before. XD Thin, yes, but not malnourished. That could be thanks to my lack of knowledge when it comes to anatomy, though.
I'll be sure to try and look at some frame of reference next time I draw her, or any other character. Though now I feel tempted to draw a REALLY malnourished character for some reason... XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Not much to say this time around, except for huzzah for more double-posts. XD
Oh.
And I FINALLY got a request finished. Say hello to Xze everyone!
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Xze.jpg?t=1176246720)
I'm not very happy with this picture, but I'm pretty satisfied with how the head turned out. Been sort of practicing musculature, which doesn't really show well in this exact picture, but some lines on the abdomen indicate it. Just tried to give Xze an athletic, robust look--but she just may look weird. Hope you like the picture, Xze, and sorry for the wait!
Next up is Tapewolf's request, then I've got a big project coming up. See you next time everybody!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
The wings are nice. Wings often seem to give people trouble, but you've managed to devise an elegant way of portraying feathered wings while keeping it simple. How well this would work in colour I'm not sure (Zedd's the only one I can remember and his wings are black anyway) but as a sketch it works very well.
She did a great job on me though and quite good on Xze as well
yikes. skinny without the muscle always scares me... it looks ok but why is one wing bird and the other mammal?
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 10, 2007, 07:46:35 PM
yikes. skinny without the muscle always scares me... it looks ok but why is one wing bird and the other mammal?
Heheh. I still need to work on the muscle a bit. As for the wings... well, that's Xze's character design. If you look on the second page of the topic you'll find her character design sheet.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Oof, I nearly let this drop off the map again. Sorry everyone.
To Tapewolf: your picture is almost finished. I just need to adjust the anatomy and some other finer details, then it'll be ready for posting.
For now, to keep this topic afloat, I doodled up an unnecessarily complicated image of Keaton's clan leader, Jyraneth.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Jyraneth.jpg?t=1180290223)
Information on Jyraneth. One of the younger clan leaders, she had formed the Jyraneth Clan after she was ousted from her own on the grounds that she was "a dangerous lunatic," something which was quite an accomplishment considering her original clan was almost as violent as the Jyraneth Clan. What set her apart from her kin was that she claimed to hear the voices of the Gods and their phantoms, as well as communicate with them. This was merely an illusion--just a fabrication forged by her own insanity. She could never speak to any deities, nor did she have any divine power. But there were many who believed her and her dogma, gravitating toward her like flies to a lamp. These eventually became the foundation of what would form Jyraneth Clan.
Over time, as the clan grew, Jyraneth started a series of laws which were adopted as the Jyraneth Clan's mantra. Whether or not she actually believed these, or had just passed them to keep her control on her clan was unknown, but if the latter were true it certainly worked. Many Cubi view Jyraneth as a maverick and a cult leader, while the Jyraneth themselves find her a brilliant leader. What strengthened their opinion was how skillfully she handled the near-extinction of the Jyraneth Clan, by gathering what remained of their population and helping them construct a city. Over time, as her clan mushroomed, Jyraneth's insanity only worsened. The only thing anchoring her sanity was the throngs of advisors and attendants she hired, who assisted her in running her hidden city and choosing decisions.
She was brilliant, but whether or not she was actually competent as a ruler and leader without her aids is up to the imagination.
Some Jyraneth actually held a disillusioned perspective of their leader. Open critics of Jyraneth's policies were exterminated and their families paid handsomely to remain quiet, even disavow the deceased's existence. Rumors were quickly extinguished. Some slaves or citizens were picked up as playthings for Jyraneth.
After the massacre that led to the downfall of the Jyraneth city of Harla'keth, Jyraneth escaped with a few of her attendants and her most loyal advisor. These attendants and advisors remained with their lady up until their violent demise, in which Jyraneth flew into an insanity-fueled breakdown and obliterated their bodies, allowing the souls to float away. The massacre had destroyed Jyraneth's remaining sanity, making her lapse in between periods of stability, her mind overwhelmed with echoing voices, increasing her intense schizophrenia, and even agitating her to the point she tore up her wings and forgot how to use her powers.
Yep. I'm evil. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Not to object, but informationally... I thought Amber said something about bodily injuries repairing themselves, given time, with Cubi.
So... things like cutting out the clan mark, for example, would only be a temporary fix, since it'd grow back. And this wasn't, as I recall, under the control of the Cubi themselves, being more of a subconscious activity. Like breathing - you can control it a bit, but you can't stop it totally. (odd point - you can knock yourself out by holding your breath, if you have enough willpower, but once you fall unconscious, you start breathing again. Curious, no?)
Not that I'm trying to run you down - it's a lovely description. The last line just... jarred, a bit. :-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 27, 2007, 03:32:16 PM
Not to object, but informationally... I thought Amber said something about bodily injuries repairing themselves, given time, with Cubi.
So... things like cutting out the clan mark, for example, would only be a temporary fix, since it'd grow back. And this wasn't, as I recall, under the control of the Cubi themselves, being more of a subconscious activity. Like breathing - you can control it a bit, but you can't stop it totally. (odd point - you can knock yourself out by holding your breath, if you have enough willpower, but once you fall unconscious, you start breathing again. Curious, no?)
Not that I'm trying to run you down - it's a lovely description. The last line just... jarred, a bit. :-]
I'm glad you liked the description, and I appreciate your input. I learned something today. XD If Cubi can heal their bodies automatically, then chances are that Jyraneth's wings could've repaired themselves after some time... though I wonder if Cubi can carry scars, since all Jyraneth Clan Cubi are required to have secondary clan markings etched into their shoulders as a mirror image of Jyraneth's own.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
It's a guess, but I'd say the scars are likely to eventually heal themselves over.
And it's not "Cubi can heal automatically" - it's more, Cubi -will- heal, whether or not they want to. Or, at least, that was the impression I had.
Which means carrying a scar in the shape of a clan mark is even -more- of a burden, since you'd have to have it re-branded every ten or twenty years or something. :-[
As much as a lost limb, I'd expect that to take somewhat longer to grow back - particularly as big a limb as a wing or two. Bear in mind there are a -lot- of muscles in a wing, even such a wing as a Cubi's (ie, non-flight-capable - although gliding is a possibility) and all those muscles get fed with blood. I'd expect, if you cut/ripped one off, you'd have to do something to sear the remains, otherwise you'd pass out from the volume of blood pouring out of the major arteries - after all, they'd be about on height of your heart, so good and close to it, etc etc.
Try looking into losing a leg. It's a -big- thing, and you've got to be dead close to serious medical help, otherwise you bleed to death in, I think, less than 10 or 15 minutes. If you cut the whole thing right off (as your Jyraneth would have with the wings) I think it's even less, as the arteries are -all- open, rather than half being smashed shut, or blocked by bits of leg, etc... Which suggests that she not only ripped her wings off, but she also then lay down on a fire (or something like that) to seal the wounds. Which seems to me to be -seriously- out of your mind territory... :-]
Erm. I'm not really this morbid, honest. I just have lots of curiosity about things :-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 27, 2007, 05:07:50 PM
It's a guess, but I'd say the scars are likely to eventually heal themselves over.
And it's not "Cubi can heal automatically" - it's more, Cubi -will- heal, whether or not they want to. Or, at least, that was the impression I had.
Which means carrying a scar in the shape of a clan mark is even -more- of a burden, since you'd have to have it re-branded every ten or twenty years or something. :-[
Hmm, unconventional, but I think I can use that in a creative sense. It's hard to explain how, really, but I'm actually very pleased by this. I'm sure the Jyraneth clan members, however, wouldn't be very happy about being re-branded every so often... XD;
And wait! Crap! If Keaton can't scar that means that her torso and eye-scar are moot. Curses, but I can always just remove them from her design altogether. Problem is they've already been mentioned in RPs and such, so it would be inconsistent to deny their existence after doing such. I wonder if an eye can grow back, though... then I'd be royally screwed, since one of Keaton's eyes are fake. XD
QuoteAs much as a lost limb, I'd expect that to take somewhat longer to grow back - particularly as big a limb as a wing or two. Bear in mind there are a -lot- of muscles in a wing, even such a wing as a Cubi's (ie, non-flight-capable - although gliding is a possibility) and all those muscles get fed with blood. I'd expect, if you cut/ripped one off, you'd have to do something to sear the remains, otherwise you'd pass out from the volume of blood pouring out of the major arteries - after all, they'd be about on height of your heart, so good and close to it, etc etc.
Thing is though, Jyraneth didn't rip OFF her wings, she just tore apart the membrane until it was hanging between the skeletal frames like shredded confetti. c: Still gruesome, but I dunno if membrane can bleed.
Am I nuts? Of course I'm not! :>
QuoteTry looking into losing a leg. It's a -big- thing, and you've got to be dead close to serious medical help, otherwise you bleed to death in, I think, less than 10 or 15 minutes. If you cut the whole thing right off (as your Jyraneth would have with the wings) I think it's even less, as the arteries are -all- open, rather than half being smashed shut, or blocked by bits of leg, etc... Which suggests that she not only ripped her wings off, but she also then lay down on a fire (or something like that) to seal the wounds. Which seems to me to be -seriously- out of your mind territory... :-]
Erm. I'm not really this morbid, honest. I just have lots of curiosity about things :-]
You're not the only one who is curious about lots of things in that category. XD I come up with a lot of effed-up things, honestly. =P So it takes a bit to really
shock me. Though lying down on a fire to seal up wounds... interesting... I should use that in a story sometime. ;)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 27, 2007, 03:01:58 PM
To Tapewolf: your picture is almost finished. I just need to adjust the anatomy and some other finer details, then it'll be ready for posting.
Cool.
QuoteFor now, to keep this topic afloat, I doodled up an unnecessarily complicated image of Keaton's clan leader, Jyraneth.
Nicely done. It could do with a bit more contrast I think, although that might just be my nasty LCD monitor sucking again. Does she have to be so cute given how incredibly messed-up she is?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 27, 2007, 05:07:50 PM
Which means carrying a scar in the shape of a clan mark is even -more- of a burden, since you'd have to have it re-branded every ten or twenty years or something. :-[
This particular clan is psycho enough to go in for that sort of thing. I'm a little more concerned about Keaton's missing eye, although it's possible that the Kamei'Sin somehow cursed it to prevent it regrowing properly.
[Too late, ah well, never mind]
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 27, 2007, 07:04:03 PM
Nicely done. It could do with a bit more contrast I think, although that might just be my nasty LCD monitor sucking again. Does she have to be so cute given how incredibly messed-up she is?
Contrast? Do you mean darkening of the lineart? If so, I see what you mean there. I should adjust it when I get the chance, perhaps change it to greyscale. As for the cuteness... holy cow, that wasn't intentional. XD I did mean for her to have a certain amount of dignified beauty to her in this, off-set by the almost insane look in her eyes (I tried to add some extra rings to her irises and reduced the size of her pupils)... she'll probably be less cute in the next picture I do of her. :3
Though I'm glad you like the image. *bows*
Quotealthough it's possible that the Kamei'Sin somehow cursed it to prevent it regrowing properly.
That is possible. Or Kytharion's healing had a side-effect: it sealed up the wounds and prevented the missing eye and her scar from regenerating.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 27, 2007, 06:51:27 PM
And wait! Crap! If Keaton can't scar that means that her torso and eye-scar are moot. Curses, but I can always just remove them from her design altogether. Problem is they've already been mentioned in RPs and such, so it would be inconsistent to deny their existence after doing such. I wonder if an eye can grow back, though... then I'd be royally screwed, since one of Keaton's eyes are fake. XD
Erm. The key word is "eventually". You can twist that to how you like - 20 years? 200? I mean, there's the whole, it takes 9 months to grow them in the first place, but after that, growth slows -way- down. So you can stretch the healing process, artistic licence style, for some time.
And yes, I can see magical cursing mixing it up there.
Also, I didn't say "can't scar" - I just mentioned that, according to the info we have, scars are not "forever" for Cubi. You -could- enforce Cubi to morph the brand mark in, but that wouldn't be painful, and I can't see Jyraneth being happy with that... :-]
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 27, 2007, 06:51:27 PM
Thing is though, Jyraneth didn't rip OFF her wings, she just tore apart the membrane until it was hanging between the skeletal frames like shredded confetti. c: Still gruesome, but I dunno if membrane can bleed.
You better believe it.
Remember, either you have feathers all over the wing, and hence have muscles in the base of each, so you can move the feather -individually- to manage airflow (how else did you think birds manage it, hmm?) so you have all the blood flow to those muscles... or you -used- to, generationally speaking, and, as such, you've still got lots of skin to feed blood to. Did you know that the single biggest organ in the human body is the skin, by quite a large margin? And it uses a lot of blood to keep it oxygenated. If you've got wings, that's a -lot- more surface area, so yes, there will be a -lot- of blood. Although it's possible the arteries for that are smaller, and more likely to seal themselves over without the drastic measures suggested above...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 27, 2007, 06:51:27 PM
Am I nuts? Of course I'm not! :>
Hah. :-]
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 27, 2007, 06:51:27 PM
You're not the only one who is curious about lots of things in that category. XD I come up with a lot of effed-up things, honestly. =P So it takes a bit to really shock me. Though lying down on a fire to seal up wounds... interesting... I should use that in a story sometime. ;)
It's not just that category. I have -all- sorts of interesting information about all sorts of things tucked up back in a corner of my mind somewhere...
Besides, I'm not trying to shock anyone. I'd rather not, honest. I'm just following the pattern you've laid down to it's inevitable conclusion, and attempting to see if there's a logical flaw there somewhere that you might or might not have seen, and may or may not have an answer for...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 28, 2007, 04:51:11 AM
Erm. The key word is "eventually". You can twist that to how you like - 20 years? 200? I mean, there's the whole, it takes 9 months to grow them in the first place, but after that, growth slows -way- down. So you can stretch the healing process, artistic licence style, for some time.
And yes, I can see magical cursing mixing it up there.
Also, I didn't say "can't scar" - I just mentioned that, according to the info we have, scars are not "forever" for Cubi. You -could- enforce Cubi to morph the brand mark in, but that wouldn't be painful, and I can't see Jyraneth being happy with that... :-]
200 years might work nicely, though Keaton recieved the scar when she was 68, so it would take more than that for the scar to remain in the present.
Magical cursing it is then, most likely.
And morphing works well. Aniz did, after all, keep Cid's scars (such as the torn ear and the scar over his eye) via metamorphosis. As for Jyraneth's position on painful branding... she would probably believe that it's through blood, sweat, and tears that one shows true dedication to the clan, so she would keep branding away. XD; Worst of all is that those who are in the Jyraneth military have little military scars on their upper arms that serve as signs for rank.
QuoteYou better believe it.
Remember, either you have feathers all over the wing, and hence have muscles in the base of each, so you can move the feather -individually- to manage airflow (how else did you think birds manage it, hmm?) so you have all the blood flow to those muscles... or you -used- to, generationally speaking, and, as such, you've still got lots of skin to feed blood to. Did you know that the single biggest organ in the human body is the skin, by quite a large margin? And it uses a lot of blood to keep it oxygenated. If you've got wings, that's a -lot- more surface area, so yes, there will be a -lot- of blood. Although it's possible the arteries for that are smaller, and more likely to seal themselves over without the drastic measures suggested above...
I didn't know this about birds. That's incredibly fascinating. O.o I also didn't know this about skin. The fact it's the largest organ makes a lot of sense. Though hmm. I still need to figure out how Jyraneth survived. Maybe the fact she's a tri-wing Cubi gives her more durability. It was said in the Demonology 101 that most Cubi can die of normal means unless they're a certain power level.
QuoteI'm just following the pattern you've laid down to it's inevitable conclusion, and attempting to see if there's a logical flaw there somewhere that you might or might not have seen, and may or may not have an answer for...
And I once more appreciate your observations. Plot holes irritate me like nothing else, so I'm really glad that you pointed this out so I could try and come up with a way to fix it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 28, 2007, 12:39:15 PM
And morphing works well. Aniz did, after all, keep Cid's scars (such as the torn ear and the scar over his eye) via metamorphosis. As for Jyraneth's position on painful branding... she would probably believe that it's through blood, sweat, and tears that one shows true dedication to the clan, so she would keep branding away.
You've got to admit, it's one hell of a loyalty test.
QuoteI still need to figure out how Jyraneth survived. Maybe the fact she's a tri-wing Cubi gives her more durability. It was said in the Demonology 101 that most Cubi can die of normal means unless they're a certain power level.
It doesn't confer invulnerability, though. IIRC from Amber's comments (nitpick warning - this is not guaranteed to be accurate) there have been around 200 tri-wings from the dawn of the race to the present day. Of whom there are about 12 survivors.
Depending on how solid you want it to be (how consistent with DMFA) there is an argument for her having
not survived, at least not to the present day.
Another little something I drew up, only it isn't really a drawing, per se, but a clan marking. Uh, still counts as art and I'm proud of it, so I'm tacking it up here.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/KameiSin-Green.jpg?t=1180474853)
...Looks like the Sunfest symbol. Anyway.
It's none other than the Kamei'Sin clan marking--the Kamei'Sin Clan being the enemies of the Jyraneth Clan. And it's GREEN! Not just green but a LIME GREEN! Oh the humanity!
Since I'm lazy at the moment, I'm going to steal my description about the Kamei'Sin from a conversation with someone:
About the Kamei'Sin. They weren't the Jyraneth clan's only enemy, just one of the most notable ones because of their participation in the war which eliminated the majority of the Jyraneth clan. The Jyraneth had very few allies, in fact maybe only one or two.
The Kamei'Sin, while a violent clan which specializes in aggression and hatred, never really engaged in any notable conflicts against others outside of the Jyraneth. In comparison to the Jyraneth, they were a great deal less violent despite their love for competing in arenas and gladiator matches. They constantly hosted brutal festivals in which people would fight against one another--either their specialized warriors or their prisoners who had been promised freedom.
Because of this they had a very flippant attitude towards life and death, and even educated youngsters about combat at a very ripe age. The clan was started by not one but two tri-wing Cubi, one of which was killed in a duel with the insane and twisted founder of the Jyraneth clan. The surviving Kamei'Sin founder, Qaisyne, swore vengeance upon the Jyraneth and since then they had been at one another's throats. Their feud had been lessened considerably since the Jyraneth adopted their secretive attitude and resigned themselves to the shadows, but once they discovered their location they were quick to act and wipe out their most loathed enemy.
Recently, Qaisyne, the remaining clan leader, has been killed in an assassination attempt. What has happened to the Kamei'Sin after the fall of their leader is unknown, but it's possible that they have either petered out of power or dissolved into obscurity entirely.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 29, 2007, 06:20:02 PM
It's none other than the Kamei'Sin clan marking--the Kamei'Sin Clan being the enemies of the Jyraneth Clan. And it's GREEN! Not just green but a LIME GREEN! Oh the humanity!
Cool.
QuoteRecently, Qaisyne, the remaining clan leader, has been killed in an assassination attempt. What has happened to the Kamei'Sin after the fall of their leader is unknown, but it's possible that they have either petered out of power or dissolved into obscurity entirely.
That's less cool. Rather sad actually.
Wait. Let's think this through. You've created a character for yourself who is evil, and then killed her family. The rival clan who did this then tortured her and did all kinds of nasty things, yet somehow I feel sorry for them. Perhaps it's just that 1AM feeling but there seems to be some pretty strange psychology at work there :B
As for what happened to them, unless there was something truly irreplaceable about their leader it's possible they may simply have had some kind of succession thing. Although since the clan leader seems to project power back to the others, it's likely that they are a shadow of their former selves. (Dunno if Aary's leader is alive, but if not she seems to be doing pretty well for herself)
I guess we just don't really know enough about how 'Cubi clans work...
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 29, 2007, 08:05:50 PM
Wait. Let's think this through. You've created a character for yourself who is evil, and then killed her family.
Yep. :B
QuoteThe rival clan who did this then tortured her and did all kinds of nasty things, yet somehow I feel sorry for them. Perhaps it's just that 1AM feeling but there seems to be some pretty strange psychology at work there :B
Honestly I'm not too surprised, since I experience the same things sometimes. XD
QuoteAs for what happened to them, unless there was something truly irreplaceable about their leader it's possible they may simply have had some kind of succession thing. Although since the clan leader seems to project power back to the others, it's likely that they are a shadow of their former selves. (Dunno if Aary's leader is alive, but if not she seems to be doing pretty well for herself)
I guess we just don't really know enough about how 'Cubi clans work...
Hmm, I need to think more about this. I'm going to assume that the Kamei'Sin were extremely reliant on their clan leader, but that's behavior more characteristic of the Jyraneth Clan. I'm probably going to need to rethink this. Curse my quick conclusion skills...ing! D:
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 29, 2007, 09:00:47 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 29, 2007, 08:05:50 PM
The rival clan who did this then tortured her and did all kinds of nasty things, yet somehow I feel sorry for them. Perhaps it's just that 1AM feeling but there seems to be some pretty strange psychology at work there :B
Honestly I'm not too surprised, since I experience the same things sometimes. XD
Just to check, that wasn't meant in a negative way. In a way it's rather like Invader Zim, which has you rooting for someone who wants to kill you. No mean feat.
QuoteHmm, I need to think more about this. I'm going to assume that the Kamei'Sin were extremely reliant on their clan leader, but that's behavior more characteristic of the Jyraneth Clan. I'm probably going to need to rethink this. Curse my quick conclusion skills...ing! D:
It's not impossible that the KS might be somewhat like the Jyraneth, although minus the actual insanity bit. Rivals will often tend to mirror each other. Whatever the case, losing their founder would certainly leave them in a much worse state. It might indeed cause them to split up, and if the surviving leader hadn't made any concrete plans for succession, it would probably break into rival factions. On the other hand, after losing one founder, the survivor would have to be pretty dim/egocentric not to make contingency plans for their own death.
"Ah Benson, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence..."
--Evil, The Time Bandits
Aaaaaaaaugh it's finally finished. Tapewolf's request is FINALLY finished.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JohanCross.jpg?t=1180899931)
Though damn... I can't say I'm too happy with it. Tapewolf, if you're not happy with it, I'll be sure to redo it. If you do like it, though, I'm glad it was worth the long time it took for me to finish it.
I admit there are some aspects of the picture I enjoy, such as the wings, and the cane. Meanwhile other facets irritate me to no end, such as his expression (I can do much better than that, honestly...) and the hand gripping the cane. Why does he have a cane, you might ask?
Because canes are DIABOLICAL. *DR.EVILPINKYFINGER!*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Tapewolf: The new El Suavo. :3
Ya know... I don't know if this'll offend or compliment, but I'm aiming at compliment. Your style reminds me of a cross between american styles and manga. The heighs of the manga characters, with leg comparisons, but with the american art style to it.
Quote from: Kenji on June 03, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
Tapewolf: The new El Suavo. :3
Ya know... I don't know if this'll offend or compliment, but I'm aiming at compliment. Your style reminds me of a cross between american styles and manga. The heighs of the manga characters, with leg comparisons, but with the american art style to it.
Actually, this comes across as a definite compliment to me. XD I've always been trying to aim towards a style which is somewhere in-between, as opposed to an exaggerated anime or cartoonish style.
So thank you very, very much. :)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I like his expression. "I know something you don't know" written all over it.
And that, of course, fits Jakob to a T...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 03, 2007, 03:48:25 PM
Aaaaaaaaugh it's finally finished. Tapewolf's request is FINALLY finished.
I admit there are some aspects of the picture I enjoy, such as the wings, and the cane. Meanwhile other facets irritate me to no end, such as his expression (I can do much better than that, honestly...) and the hand gripping the cane. Why does he have a cane, you might ask?
Because canes are DIABOLICAL. *DR.EVILPINKYFINGER!*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hehehe. Yes, I do like that. I really don't know what you're complaining about with the expression, the evil grin is pretty much dead-on. In fact I look rather like that now, just looking at the picture.
The eye is perhaps a trifle large but that seems to be a general feature of your art style so I'm not really complaining about that.
Two things that it would be nice if you could tweak - the hair is lovely but ideally it should reach down to his shoulders. Likewise the trenchcoat should be longer. Exactly how it interacts with his tail I'm not sure - probably an opening in the back to accommodate it.
This is based on James' version and makes a good reference for the coat:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/eviljakobcolour-dodge.png
I think you've done a better job with the hair and the face, though.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 03, 2007, 04:47:39 PM
Hehehe. Yes, I do like that. I really don't know what you're complaining about with the expression, the evil grin is pretty much dead-on. In fact I look rather like that now, just looking at the picture.
The eye is perhaps a trifle large but that seems to be a general feature of your art style so I'm not really complaining about that.
Two things that it would be nice if you could tweak - the hair is lovely but ideally it should reach down to his shoulders. Likewise the trenchcoat should be longer. Exactly how it interacts with his tail I'm not sure - probably an opening in the back to accommodate it.
This is based on James' version and makes a good reference for the coat:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/eviljakobcolour-dodge.png
I think you've done a better job with the hair and the face, though.
Well, that's a total relief and a mood-lifter to hear. :boogie I'm absolutely overjoyed that you like the picture, Tapewolf. I'm once more sorry for the wait, however. X3 As for the eye size... whoops. I need to keep fixing that in future images. XD I've been messing with that eye all throughout my attempts at making the picture more anatomically correct but somehow that keeps weaseling its way into this.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JohanCross2.jpg?t=1180904860
Here ya go, Tapewolf. X3
I managed to adjust the picture a little bit, some of the changes are sort of subtle. For example one side of the hair is sort of thrown over the shoulder, but the increase in length actually makes it look a bit better. As for the trenchcoat's sleeve for the tail, the tail is outside of the sleeve so I decided not to really incorporate it.
However I think I'm a bit happier with the adjusted image.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 03, 2007, 05:13:14 PM
Here ya go, Tapewolf. X3
I managed to adjust the picture a little bit, some of the changes are sort of subtle. For example one side of the hair is sort of thrown over the shoulder, but the increase in length actually makes it look a bit better. As for the trenchcoat's sleeve for the tail, the tail is outside of the sleeve so I decided not to really incorporate it.
Yes, that's good. Ideally the coat should stretch down to his ankles, but I've had a quick go at extending it here and it doesn't really work with the way the image is constructed.
Your slightly extended version is probably the best it's going to get without a major redesign of the lower part of the picture. Besides, I suspect the despotic ruler of Ha'Khunn could afford more than one coat >:3
If I could make another change request, do you think you could you close the eye ever so slightly, something like this?
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/cross_eye.png)
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/cross_eye.png
I smiled my trademark cynical smile, the hooded eyes... amusement and deadly menace in equal proportion. "Executions are messy and inefficient," I said. "It's so much easier and just as effective if the population THINKS that my opponents and their families have died by my hand."--CJP, chapter 12
"I want them, Ashley." I said, smiling my infamous smile. "I want them alive. They won't be alive AFTERWARDS of course, but I want them to be delivered to me in the best possible condition."--CJP, chapter 18
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 03, 2007, 05:43:45 PM
If I could make another change request, do you think you could you close the eye ever so slightly, something like this?
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/cross_eye.png)
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/jakob/cross_eye.png
Hmm, I can definitely do that.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JohanCross3.jpg?t=1180908087
Once more, the changes are subtle, but I'm growing increasingly happier with the image.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 03, 2007, 06:02:07 PM
Hmm, I can definitely do that.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JohanCross3.jpg?t=1180908087
Once more, the changes are subtle, but I'm growing increasingly happier with the image.
Yes. The eye itself is now the right shape, but that change has fuzzed the pupil somewhat.
In the previous versions the pupil is crisp and dark, and the highlight gives his whole expression a vital spark which is somewhat missing in this version.
It's easy to fix in the digital domain though, so if you're going to colour it, it could be dealt with at that point.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 03, 2007, 06:14:50 PM
Yes. The eye itself is now the right shape, but that change has fuzzed the pupil somewhat.
In the previous versions the pupil is crisp and dark, and the highlight gives his whole expression a vital spark which is somewhat missing in this version.
It's easy to fix in the digital domain though, so if you're going to colour it, it could be dealt with at that point.
Well, I am planning on coloring the image at some point, so that IS easy to fix. However, considering the size of the image it will take me a while to ink it. Cursed inking. XD
So expect a colored version to appear sooner or later. Hopefully since fewer black hues are involved in this picture than in the Zedd one, it'll be much easier to shade and highlight. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Awesome art once again, Keaton. I love the facial expression.
Maybe it's just me, but all this nitpicking gives a strong impression that you're not grateful, Tapewolf, for the fact that she drew you a pic in the first place.
Quote from: Gareeku on June 04, 2007, 08:38:06 AM
Awesome art once again, Keaton. I love the facial expression.
Me too. :-) It was the first thing that attracted my attention, although I think I mentioned that...
Quote from: Gareeku on June 04, 2007, 08:38:06 AM
Maybe it's just me, but all this nitpicking gives a strong impression that you're not grateful, Tapewolf, for the fact that she drew you a pic in the first place.
Mmmm. I'd have to say I disagree, there, Gareeku. (Not that I'm suggesting you -have- to agree with me, mind :-] ) As I read it, he's stated he likes it, and then offered suggestions from there. Keaton has been happy to take those suggestions and run with them, but, to my mind at least, there's no pressure there, and both of them would be happy to have Keaton decline to make any further changes.
At least, that's how it seems to me. Perhaps -I'm- just the odd one out, though...
True, but I just found it rather stupid, to be blunt, that there was change requests such as closing the eye so slightly that it doesn't make any difference whatsoever, or changing the eye size when it looked just great the way it was is a bit too much. It seems extreme, in my opinion. If it was a commission then fair enough, but it wasn't. It was a request. You shouldn't be nitpicking to this extent if you are getting something for FREE.
Quote from: Gareeku on June 04, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
True, but I just found it rather stupid, to be blunt, that there was change requests such as closing the eye so slightly that it doesn't make any difference whatsoever, or changing the eye size when it looked just great the way it was is a bit too much. It seems extreme, in my opinion. If it was a commission then fair enough, but it wasn't. It was a request. You shouldn't be nitpicking to this extent if you are getting something for FREE.
With respect Gareeku, you've only seen the public side of this and not what's been discussed privately.
Llearch's observation about the requests being suggestions which she is free to turn down is right on the money, by the way.
I might also point out that the art thread is to garner ways to improve the art, not for the purpose of heaping blind praise. This I have done.
That is very true. Indeed I have not seen what has been discussed privately. I am just saying what I have seen. Indeed, Llearch is right that she free to turn down the suggestions. I acknowledge that, and yes I know that the art thread is for improving one's art and not for heaping blind praise. I'm not stupid. I just don't see how suggesting changes that, in my opinion, don't make any difference to the quality of the art whatsoever. The length of the jacket does not do this. Suggesting that the eye is resized and adjusted to the point where it doesn't make a difference does not do this.
So with respect Tape, I am a big supporter for the improvement of art but I simply cannot see how these suggestions help at all. Then again, I am not artist, so what do I know. I am merely making observations from where I stand.
Might I suggest we ask Keaton if the suggestions have helped? Rather than going on and filling up her thread with unrelated posts? :-]
Here I come to save the day! *falls into the topic*
Phew.
Okay.. first off, to Gareeku. In all honesty I can't thank you enough for stepping up to stand up for me. I appreciate it to no end. However, to Tapewolf... I also appreciate Tapewolf's critique on the pictures, because it does help me improve, and also helps me mature in how I recieve criticism. Not to mention I was more than willing to redo the picture and adjust it so that way it would completely fit his specifications.
I hope that this post didn't come across as patronizing or offensive to anybody. *pokes at temple* Just hoping to stop this before it becomes a flame war, even though it's been civil so far. I just get uneasy when such discussions appear.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
It's not going to turn into a flame war. As I have said a few times already, I was merely making an observation from where I stood. That's fair enough that it helps you, even if I can't personally see why, but as I have said before, I am no artist.
Quote from: Gareeku on June 04, 2007, 11:14:29 AM
It's not going to turn into a flame war. As I have said a few times already, I was merely making an observation from where I stood. That's fair enough that it helps you, even if I can't personally see why, but as I have said before, I am no artist.
Understood. Still, once more, thank you for defending me. I really do appreciate it. :hug
~Keaton the Black Jackal
PS: The inking is finished, Tapewolf. That makes this my second-fastest inking accomplishment, the first one being the image of Xianxi.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hey, I appreciated the defence as well, even if I disagreed with it :-]
Always nice to see people watching out for each other. (and given the way I've been surrounded by morons here at work, it makes a pleasant change to my day... Mondays. Never liked Mondays.)
Quote from: Gareeku on June 04, 2007, 09:39:20 AM
I acknowledge that, and yes I know that the art thread is for improving one's art and not for heaping blind praise. I'm not stupid. I just don't see how suggesting changes that, in my opinion, don't make any difference to the quality of the art whatsoever.
I'm not saying that you're stupid, but on the other hand I must point out that I resent being called stupid also -
very seriously. I'd be happy to explain why but this is neither the time nor the place for that, and frankly this discussion has cast enough of a pall on the thread as it is. Let's just keep in mind what the wise man said - do as you would be done by. :3
QuoteThe length of the jacket does not do this. Suggesting that the eye is resized and adjusted to the point where it doesn't make a difference does not do this.
I will agree that the length of the jacket and the hair is a matter of personal preference, although to be fair I was still kind of giddy at how well it had turned out at the time :P
The eyes I beg to differ about. Making them hooded noticeably increases the sinister aspect, to me certainly. Keaton seems to have seen that too since the third version is pretty much perfect in terms of shape. It might be that seeing them side-by-side helps, of course because the change is subtle. On the other hand, subtlety can be everything.
The fuzziness in the third rendition was certainly illuminating to me, although given that she designed it it's likely that Keaton already has a better understanding than me about how eyes can be drawn convincingly.
As for my comments about the actual size of the eye, see the thread's discussion of Keaton's drawing of Darius in early February... it should make a bit more sense then.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 04, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
PS: The inking is finished, Tapewolf. That makes this my second-fastest inking accomplishment, the first one being the image of Xianxi.
Cool. Are you going to post it? It's always fun to watch these things evolve.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 04, 2007, 01:38:44 PMI must point out that I resent being called stupid also - very seriously.
Um. I wasn't calling you stupid. I was describing your actions as stupid. There is a difference. But whatever, I'm not going to keep this up. This is Keaton's art thread and it doesn't need to be filled with our discussion. I look forward to see more of your art Keaton.
*is back and walks in first thing*
Ho' (BEEEEEP)
0____0
FREAKING AWESOME!!! *grabs her pic and hisses* mine! no touch!!!
I'm in love with it!
Heh, glad you liked the picture, Xze. I was worried you didn't see it. :hug
Anywaaaaaaaay, here is the final version of Johan Cross.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JohanCross3ColoringSmall.jpg?t=1181053008)
I am INFINITELY proud of this image--it turned out a lot better than I originally imagined it would, not to mention the wings were much easier to shade this time around. Took a shorter amount of time to do it.
Cheers, folks.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
PS: If there are any mistakes I probably won't be able to fix them, as the image is already shaded, inked, and colored. ...though not in that order. So... I'm pretty sure one could live with any mistakes they find.
shineeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
Oooo. That's come out -real- well.
Congrats, Keaton.
That is seriously good art there.
Very nice indeed.
Oh wow. That has turned out fabulously. I'm impressed with the speed as well, I was expecting the colouring phase to take considerably longer. You know, I've been idly wondering what to use as a background for my new machine, and I think this has provided me with the answer :P
In any case it will be interesting to see how it prints out.
There are a couple of minor tweaks I can envision but I won't trouble you for those. Thanks again for accepting the request.
*after seeing Tape's request is very much tempted to request somes arts...* :3
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 05, 2007, 12:37:12 PM
Oh wow. That has turned out fabulously. I'm impressed with the speed as well, I was expecting the colouring phase to take considerably longer. You know, I've been idly wondering what to use as a background for my new machine, and I think this has provided me with the answer :P
In any case it will be interesting to see how it prints out.
There are a couple of minor tweaks I can envision but I won't trouble you for those. Thanks again for accepting the request.
I'm definitely overjoyed that you liked this, and that you're planning on using the picture in some way. :boogie *gives herself a pat on the back*
And you're quite welcome. Sorry the request took so long.
As for Paladin Sheppard, I'd be glad to take your request, just expect a long wait (especially since I have something to take care of first) and be sure to specify if you'd like for it to be colored.
To everyone else, I'm happy you all like the picture. I should submit colored works more often... that is, if they didn't take so damn long. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*ponders stealing the pic to use as a background, then remembers that he doesn't -use- backgrounds. At all.*
Bugger.
Itty bitty update before I skip off to visit a friend. Had a rough day yesterday, but I'm in high spirits today.
CLICK HERE (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/510291/)
For those who are curious as to what Keaton looks like, here's a headshot of her I drew a looooong time ago. I forgot the scar around her eye, however, but... ah well. I'm going to draw her again soon so it's no big deal.
Ain't she a doll? I might color this baby--no shading or stuff like that, just a quick ink job and then slap some color on it to show off Keaton's color scheme. I also drew a profile torso to show off Keaton's back and side markings, but it has boobies so I'm not sure whether to post it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You should sees more arts of the red cubi and that headshot is looking mighty fine
Aye looks good Keaton :3
Yeah, nice. And definitely a much clearer view of what she looks like than the last one I saw, which was the little floating chibi version in the Tristan picture.
wow...just...wow....
Wow. The headshot was more well-recieved than I thought it would be o_o
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonColored.jpg?t=1181227528)
Here's the same picture, albeit with a quick inking job and an even quicker color work on it. Look everybody, it's Keaton's color scheme!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Awww. Poor Keaton looks depressed.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 07, 2007, 11:03:45 AM
Awww. Poor Keaton looks depressed.
Yeah, well, she hasn't exactly had a great life >:3
I've got to admit I kind of preferred the old image for the avatar, since it was happy. This one is better-drawn, though.
She needs a hug thats all *hugs the little friend of his*
Quote from: Zedd on June 07, 2007, 04:54:47 PM
She needs a hug thats all *hugs the little friend of his*
Awww. Hugs for everybody. ^^ :hug
Quote from: Tapewolf
I've got to admit I kind of preferred the old image for the avatar, since it was happy. This one is better-drawn, though.
Well, the old avatar IS probably better than this one, I'm really just trying out my current one before I draw any conclusions on which I should keep. In terms of mood I would prefer my last one, but in terms of quality I would choose this one. Decisions, decisions.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCornaAwww. Poor Keaton looks depressed.
When I eventually write up Keaton's backstory everyone'll know why >:3 Though it wasn't my intention to make her look depressed. I was actually going for a more blasé, unimpressed and unamused expression, which is pretty much what she always makes. X3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hey Keaton, would you mind Coloring that pic of Xze for me? i wanna use it as a new Avatar ^^
It's a trap! D:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b183/FireKatKid/Just%20for%20links/trap.gif)
Hush You!!
Sure Xze, I'd be happy to. ^^ Daaaang. I'm gonna need to close requests after this one. XD I'm gonna be busy all summer, and I mean that in the best way possible. *tacks up Xze's request in the to-do list*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
only if you feel like it ^^ i can color it myself but..my digital skills are teh sux
Nothing entirely special to report today. Just finished inking Xze's picture and decided to slap it up here in case she wants to try coloring it. I'll color it and make it into a spiffy avatar for her when I get the chance.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-XzeInked-1.jpg?t=1181528383)
Here you go for now, Xze, for your viewing pleasure. Also intended to satisfy Tapewolf's curiosity in case he's interested in what my pictures look like just after inking.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
It just screams "I will eat you~"
0w0
i love you.
in a...non..lesbian way...i think...^^;;;
*runs to go try and color it*
Is it actually inked? It looks like you used the pen tool in PhotoShop. Either way, it's great!
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on June 11, 2007, 01:19:45 AM
Is it actually inked? It looks like you used the pen tool in PhotoShop. Either way, it's great!
Actually, I used Macromedia Freehand to ink the image, which is much, much easier for me. Takes a while, but it produces nice, smooth lines. But I'm glad you like it! ^^ *bows*
Quote from: Xze-Xze0w0
i love you.
in a...non..lesbian way...i think...^^;;;
*runs to go try and color it*
Hehehe. XD I'm glad you like the picture so far! Mind you, the solid coloring is almost done, so the shaded version should probably be up later today, or tomorrow. So far, I really like it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 10, 2007, 10:21:55 PM
Here you go for now, Xze, for your viewing pleasure. Also intended to satisfy Tapewolf's curiosity in case he's interested in what my pictures look like just after inking.
Indeed. Nicely done. By the way, I got a good idea of what the inked Jakob looked like anyway since it was one of the layers in the PSD file :P
Wow... That pic of Xze is really good, Keaton.
Wow, the inking was pretty well-recieved. Thanks a lot for your kind comments, guys. ^^
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-XzeColoredResized.jpg?t=1181664013)
For Xze... here it is. The colored version. Personally, I'm very happy with the T-Shirt and the way the text curves. Too bad I couldn't get the image to do the same, but this is my first time doing stuff like that.
Uh... not sure what to say next.
...Pancakes.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Theirs our favorite hybrid, And lovey glowing effect
Nice. I particularly like the dragon-wing. The eyes are kind of creepy, but then so is Xze >:3
0____________0
*foams* MINE! *grabs*
Keaton....Simply amazing....
*tries and fails to make it into a good avatar*
=.=; i fail at life....
*hoards the pic* i love you!!!
I think you have a fan, KBJ. :-]
FYI, Xze, that's not a bad avatar there...
*slow claps*
woot~
Good stuff right there. ;)
Wow, so many comments. o__o Thank you so much, guys. You really made a crappy day a whole lot brighter, and that means so much. :tighthug
Not to mention I'm glad you all like the picture, especially you, Xze. XD Mission accomplished. :boogie
*updates to-do list* Life is sort of biting me in the ass at the moment, so I'm taking a break from AIM. This'll give me more time to complete my Project (tm) and get your requests finished.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
What a time for me to add you to my buddy list. :lol Hope everything turns out a'ight and good luck.
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on June 13, 2007, 02:36:37 PM
What a time for me to add you to my buddy list. :lol Hope everything turns out a'ight and good luck.
Aw dang! Curse my poor timing! Well, if you have MSN, I'll probably be on there more often than I am on AIM. My MSN handle is in my profile. And thank you for the well wishes. :hug I really appreciate it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
DOUBLE POST DOUBLE POST DOUBLE POST TOPIC REVIVAL. *casts her voodoo revive spell on the topic*
Okay. So I'm not done with any of the requests yet, but to hold you guys over I've managed to doodle up a character from an upcoming Pokemon (yes, Pokemon) fanfiction I'm planning.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Alice.jpg?t=1183772610)
Something a bit new from me. A Pokemon fancharacter, specifically for a story which will probably be called Chronicles of the Ivory Bridge, or CotFB—which sounds really funny when you try and say it out loud. I know it, I've tried it. I could go on and on about the plot, but this is about the character down here. Expect to see more of the cast eventually.
Remember that toy which you used to have as a little kid, but either gave away when you grew older, threw out, or simply grew tired of and put in storage?
Alice the Banette is the epitome of that toy.
Alice's story is painfully familiar to that of the Velveteen Rabbit's (one of my favorite childhood stories), when one completely analyzes it, only significantly more complicated.
Originally, Alice was the toy of a young girl who died of cancer, who was then accidentally deposited in the garbage. There, she was fished out by an unfortunate family who gave her to their son, but they eventually sold her to a rundown toy store. After a month spent smoldering in the back of their selection of PokeDolls, she was adopted by someone to be given to a mentally unstable man who had an unhealthy obsession with everything soft, fluffy, and generally toy-like and whose mentality was perpetually frozen in that of a 5-year-old boy's. Like some 5-year-old boys, however, he soon lost interest in Alice and she was given away to another person, and another, and another...
...Until she ended up in the garbage, where she was to be disposed of in the junkyard. Wallowing in the garbage, she solemnly reminisced on all that had happened, and how quickly she was shifted between owners. Far too quickly to be considered beloved or any other precious synonym. No, the girl who owned her originally was the only person who truly cherished her, and since then she craved to be treated as wonderfully as that solitary girl did.
But that wish was never granted. Instead she was treated like a hand-me-down.
Enter the Demon, a malevolent being mutated from a normal Shuppet from parasitically bloating itself on excess dark emotions. The power it leeched from such malicious sensations granted it abilities far surpassing those of an ordinary Shuppet's, even twisting its body to that of a much more intimidating, looming visage. Instead of a tiny, puppet-like, apparitional body, it elongated, sporting serrated, ephemeral talons; glowing, eldritch eyes; a grotesquely disproportionate maw stretching outward from its hideous face; and a bladed horn extending from its forehead. Its lower body rippled and flashed in between palpability and intangibility, billowing like a flag.
It chose Alice as its new host upon the decomposition of its previous one. You see, with the Demon, it quickly deteriorates its vessel and increases the need for food, water, and oxygen, making the atmosphere incredibly fragile and withering away its host body. Some could resist those urges—such as those who possess artificial bodies and have no need for proper nutrients—but it had never found a proper host. Then it found Alice when floating around the junkyard.
In the midst of Alice's suffering and loneliness, the Demon, drawn to her by those gangrenous emotions, possessed her body and brought her to life. Fully animate, Alice observed her body and ruminated on the sour feelings which plagued her. Anger. Suffering. Vengeance.
Alice was the perfect vessel. Being a toy, she had no need to eat, sleep, drink, or even breathe. She couldn't bleed to death or become irreparably damaged, as her limbs could easily be sewn back on. Yes, she was vulnerable to water and poor conditions, but as time passed she took on a more tangible appearance, resistant to the rain and wind like the other Banettes—only much stronger, due to the Demon's presence.
The Demon bestows Alice with all manner of ghostly powers, including the ability to invade peoples' dreams, lull them to sleep, harness ghost-based and psychic energy in multiple formats, and other ethereal abilities. Alice can communicate telepathically with the Demon and can sometimes allow it to manifest within her shadow, but the Demon cannot emerge on its own. It is unknown whether or not the malignant side-effects will come to afflict Alice eventually.
While the Demon inhabiting her shell orchestrates her ability to move, Alice still has a conscious control over her own feelings, as tainted with hate as they are. Over time she has adopted a threadbare and worn Pikachu doll which she constantly sews up and treats with an almost religious love, but she can't mend the enormous hole gaping in the side of its head. Her motivations for keeping it with her are unknown, but it is possible that she is treating it the way she has always wanted to be treated in her life: with love and care. Nobody has dared to take the doll away from her—but in one situation where the doll was accidentally damaged in the middle of a fight, the unfortunate fellow responsible didn't step out from that skirmish alive.
I haven't decided on Alice's lingual habits. Either she is entirely mute, communicates via telepathy, or speaks solely in German. Considering I don't know German, however, the last option will probably be eliminated. I might go with a mixture of the three though. Why would she know German, though? Why, because she's from Germany, silly people! Also because she has never exactly gotten education to learn any other languages, being a doll. And because the German language is awesome.
I don't have the voice for it, though. I can't roll R's and my voice isn't suitable for the more guttural words. Blame Rammstein for my addiction to the German language.
Ich liebe Rammstein. <3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 06, 2007, 09:46:29 PM
DOUBLE POST DOUBLE POST DOUBLE POST TOPIC REVIVAL. *casts her voodoo revive spell on the topic*
Spell fails, and you come to the notice of the moderators, who are having a bad day.
Inexplicable, your attempt brightens their day, and they let you live. Go figure. ;-]
Please note that letting you live was not a unanimous decision. D:
*Shakes his fist in defiant demand for his request to be finished* :)
Loving the plush
It's about f%^king time I got these finished. That's all I'm gonna say. :3 Yes, this is the Super Special Awesome Project I was talking about. Nothing of an enormous magnitude. Nothing mind-blowing. Just a gift to some of my friends. I promised I'd get this done a few months ago, and voila, I did.
In alphabetical order!:
Aisha DeCabre (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Aisha.jpg?t=1185236581)
Aisha's is probably one of my favorites in the batch, because of the pose and the boomerang. I just had a lot of fun with it.
Cogidubnus (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Cogidubnus.jpg?t=1185236615)
I'm not too happy with Cog's, but he liked it, so... I give myself a pat on the back anyway. XD I'm rather happy with his pose, expression, and clothing, however, and the little necklace 'round his neck. BUT THE SWORD MUST DIE. IT JUST HAS TO DIE.
Gareeku (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Gareeku.jpg?t=1185236655)
The first one I did, and the easiest one to complete. He's just chillin' in this picture. I hope he likes it.
Mel Dragonkitty (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Mel.jpg?t=1185236753)
Oh yeah. I am REALLY happy with Mel's. Hers is probably the most extravagant, too, what with the wings and everything.
Stygian (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Stygian.jpg?t=1185236781)
And heeeere's Stygian. This one was a BITCH to complete. I couldn't get the musculature and facial features right, but HA! I laugh in your general direction, artistic limitations!
Now to finish those requests...
~Keaton the Black Jackal
So this was the project! So...much...awesome... :U
And that includes all the pics, not just mine. :3 Great work!
Indeed, hard to believe you could fit so much awesome in one thread! :O
I declare Keats goddess of all that is win and awesome. A most lovely surprise. Thank you!
:dface
Nice sketches, Keats! Many thanks! It seems you got us all down pretty damn well... though I wonder where my belt and shirt have gone. >3
Fuckin' A imo
Recognisable as themselves, and yet uniquely -your- view of them.
I take my hat off to you, KBJ. Most excellent - even with the flaws you mentioned.
I think the style is perfect for lizard creatures, and I think the frame work is excellent, but I still think that the characters are too skinny, but since I'm not the one drawing it I can't really complain.
Y'know, I never usually look at the art topics, but I looked at this most recent work, and I'm glad I did. Nicely done, Keaton! I especially like Cog's pic. You drew him cooler than I pictured him. :)
Quote from: Black_angel on July 23, 2007, 11:19:08 PM
Y'know, I never usually look at the art topics, but I looked at this most recent work, and I'm glad I did. Nicely done, Keaton! I especially like Cog's pic. You drew him cooler than I pictured him. :)
:<
Now this is quite a lovely setup
Yeah, I think Aisha is probably best, on account of the pose, I guess. The others are good too. I find it interesting that you drew the spots... while the spots on melanistic cats will show from the right angle, I wouldn't have bothered if it was me doing it :P
Omigod I have a lot to respond to. o_o You all... rock... my... WORLD. :boogie I feel so appreciated. And that's a big deal. For me. [/Finding Nemo reference]
*cracks knuckles and typity-types*
Quote from: Stygian...though I wonder where my belt and shirt have gone. >:3
The fangirls stole them. IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION. ...actually, in reality, I wanted to practice the muscles, so I drew you without a shirt. XD As for the belt, I dunno. The belt fairies took it.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughtsI think the style is perfect for lizard creatures, and I think the frame work is excellent, but I still think that the characters are too skinny, but since I'm not the one drawing it I can't really complain.
Hm. This gives me a bit to think about. I've been trying to make the drawings less skinny, but it's been sort of hard to do since I'm used to drawing characters with wiry physiques. It's just been part of my style for a while, but as far as realism goes I'm probably going to need to make them less... yeah, string-beany. I really appreciate the critique. I'll try to make the characters a little less skinny in the next picture. ^^
Quote from: Black_angelY'know, I never usually look at the art topics, but I looked at this most recent work, and I'm glad I did. Nicely done, Keaton! I especially like Cog's pic. You drew him cooler than I pictured him. :)
*tips her hat* Hehehe. You guys know how to flatter a girl. I was worried that I wouldn't get Cog's character down, admittedly. XD As for Cog... AHAHA! *points and laughs at him* :mwaha
Quote from: TapewolfYeah, I think Aisha is probably best, on account of the pose, I guess. The others are good too. I find it interesting that you drew the spots... while the spots on melanistic cats will show from the right angle, I wouldn't have bothered if it was me doing it :P
The spots were in the reference picture which I saw, so I decided to add them just in case. :P I'm still not sure if they're entirely accurate, but so far I haven't heard any complaints.
To all of you... thanks, you guys. :hug You've all made me a very happy jackal. But in all seriousness, thank you guys for the awesome awesome comments. Pardon me for acting a little blabber-mouthed, but this was just such a great thing to wake up to in the morning. You all rock so, so much. I have quite a bit to respond to. To those I didn't directly respond to--I'd just like to say that you all are fucking awesome.
Hopefully I'll have the requests up next time!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Incidentally, I find your skinnyness reminiscent of one of the webcomics I read.
Now, which one was it? ..... Ah, yes. The Awakened (http://www.theawakenedcomic.com/). So don't feel you're alone with that.
Besides, the style works, and is consistent. What more is needed?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2007, 01:05:39 PM
Incidentally, I find your skinnyness reminiscent of one of the webcomics I read.
Now, which one was it? ..... Ah, yes. The Awakened (http://www.theawakenedcomic.com/). So don't feel you're alone with that.
Besides, the style works, and is consistent. What more is needed?
Oh jeez, I LOVE the Awakened! I absolutely love that comic... I was actually sort of thinking about any similarities in style earlier.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Cogidubnus on July 23, 2007, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on July 23, 2007, 11:19:08 PM
Y'know, I never usually look at the art topics, but I looked at this most recent work, and I'm glad I did. Nicely done, Keaton! I especially like Cog's pic. You drew him cooler than I pictured him. :)
:<
Aww, sorry. Didn't mean to offend... :hug
Now I'm able to study these at my leisure rather than covertly at work, something has occurred to me whereby Aisha could be improved - her muzzle. You seem to have used the same basic muzzle shape for all of them except Styg and Mel. It's a good shape, but it's too canine.
The problem with using it on Aisha is that she's a jaguar - ideally the muzzle should be short and fat rather than long and pointed.
I feel like a cad for pointing this out, but on the other hand it's for the greater good of Keaton's artwork. Or so I keep telling myself...
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 24, 2007, 02:58:51 PM
Now I'm able to study these at my leisure rather than covertly at work, something has occurred to me whereby Aisha could be improved - her muzzle. You seem to have used the same basic muzzle shape for all of them except Styg and Mel. It's a good shape, but it's too canine.
The problem with using it on Aisha is that she's a jaguar - ideally the muzzle should be short and fat rather than long and pointed.
I feel like a cad for pointing this out, but on the other hand it's for the greater good of Keaton's artwork. Or so I keep telling myself...
Actually, I agree with you there. The muzzle was something I wasn't very happy about in the picture, and something I'll definitely improve on in the next picture I do of a more feline figure. Next time I'll look more at pictures of real life cats. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Awesome art, Keaton! If Gareeku were looking at this topic, I'd bet he'd love the pic you did of him.
Quote from: KarlOmega1 on July 25, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
Awesome art, Keaton! If Gareeku were looking at this topic, I'd bet he'd love the pic you did of him.
Heh, thanks, Karl. I really hope Gareeku'll like his picture. ^^
But anyhoo, here's another update, this time of something a bit... different.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/KeatonLightningShading.png?t=1185462102)
First off, I've been meaning to do full-body reference of Keaton for a while, but her clothing is pretty concealing (by her standards, that is) so it's hard to make out some of her markings, and her scars and clan marking aren't visible. The outfit is totally half-assed, I'm sorry. :< But I'm VERY happy with the jeans, I'm going to give myself a pat on the back for them. Note that her wings are hidden for once--this was intended to be part of an ID for my DA account (because I decided to be a conformist and do the fighting game profile some of my favorite artists are doing, since they are, frankly, AWESOME), but it became larger than originally anticipated.
As for the fact it's pixel art... it was indeed done in MS Paint, something I'm pretty proud of, because hey, it turned out pretty well! I used to do almost all of my art in MS Paint when I was much younger, since my scanner didn't work then (it was too complicated for my itty bitty mind to comprehend) without assistance. My hands aren't as steady as they were then, and my mouse is sort of crappy, so I had to use the curve tool a lot. A WHOLE lot. My mouse was malfunctioning a lot during it, too, so it took me longer than I would've liked.
But I'm done. WOO.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*gives Keaton the internet* I believe this is yours for the winning. :3
And fighting game profile, you say? o.o
That, on MS Paint?
FTW. Seriously.
As you say, the outfit has some issues, and the muzzle isn't clearly defined, but given the medium and the tools, truly outstanding effort.
Quote from: Gareeku on July 26, 2007, 11:21:32 AM
*gives Keaton the internet* I believe this is yours for the winning. :3
And fighting game profile, you say? o.o
Woo! I am finally the owner of the Internet! Now I can do what I've always wanted to do...
*bans Fred Phelps and the jerks who spoiled the ending for Deathly Hallows to me from the Internet* Mwahahahaha. >:3
And oh yeah, a fighting game profile. They're full of win and candy--here are a few examples. (http://delya.deviantart.com/journal/13861162/#comments)
And to Llearch: Thank you very much! :3 I should probably do more work on MS Paint. It's easier than Oekaki or whatever they call them for me. As for the muzzle, it's probably because of the colored lineart. I have to work on that. And the outfit... I dun like the outfit, but I want Keaton's jeans and armwarmer.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Awesome! I wants one :<
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 26, 2007, 11:34:11 AM
And oh yeah, a fighting game profile. They're full of win and candy--here are a few examples. (http://delya.deviantart.com/journal/13861162/#comments)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Holy heck, that is one HUMUNGOUS Fighting Game Character Selection...Dare I ask if this is suposed to be an actuall game and, if so, are their any parts of it done already?
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 26, 2007, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 26, 2007, 11:34:11 AM
And oh yeah, a fighting game profile. They're full of win and candy--here are a few examples. (http://delya.deviantart.com/journal/13861162/#comments)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Holy heck, that is one HUMUNGOUS Fighting Game Character Selection...Dare I ask if this is suposed to be an actuall game and, if so, are their any parts of it done already?
Oh no, it's not a real game. XD It's just something a bunch of artists did for fun, and I decided to hop on the bandwagon.
If it WERE a game, though, it would be totally freakin' insane.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 26, 2007, 11:28:48 AM
That, on MS Paint?
FTW. Seriously.
No kidding! I think mah brain is asplodin' from amazement! :O
I thought that was a nice piece of work just generally. I missed the fact that it was done in Paint. That makes it remarkable, although part of me is screaming 'WHY?'... >:3
This is so awesome, it deserves its own wallpaper (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/Keaton_Wallpaper_005.jpg). :3
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on July 26, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
This is so awesome, it deserves its own wallpaper (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/Keaton_Wallpaper_002.png). :3
That looks SO AWESOME. XD I pondered making the picture into a wallpaper once, but I didn't think anyone would want it. o_o You did the wallpaper more justice than I would've. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I just realized...is that Dark Energy/Magic in or around your left hand?
Hmmm lets see now...Cubi are magical creatures...And the can summon weapons with magic...Do you see a pattern here?
Quote from: Zedd on July 26, 2007, 04:55:46 PM
Hmmm lets see now...Cubi are magical creatures...And the can summon weapons with magic...Do you see a pattern here?
Cubi make good Las Vegas entertainment?
To Karl: yes, that's Dark Magic. I--er, Keaton has an affinity for it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 26, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on July 26, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
This is so awesome, it deserves its own wallpaper (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/Keaton_Wallpaper_002.png). :3
That looks SO AWESOME. XD I pondered making the picture into a wallpaper once, but I didn't think anyone would want it. o_o You did the wallpaper more justice than I would've. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You're very welcome. *Bows.* But it's really nothing more than some cloud renders and filters. ;)
So, my day was shitty. Got in a fight with my boyfriend, unintentionally betrayed a friend, got a headache the size of Oregon...
Oh yeah. Irrelevant. Not a LiveJournal. Right. Forgot that.
OKAY, on a totally RELEVANT topic, remember that pixel art I did and the fighting profile DA IDs I mentioned? Well...
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/KeatonSignatureQueensVersionwith-1.png?t=1185848657)
I finally made one.
I would totally go on a love-fest toward myself if my head didn't feel like it was split open like a coconut. But I have cake-batter ice cream to drown my head-pains in, so I am happy. :3 But in pain! Ow!
Oh, right, and for those who are curious, those are the lyrics to Keaton's theme song in the background. "Turning on the Screw," by Queens of the Stone Age, to be specific. I love Queens of the Stone Age. Anyway, here are the lyrics:
" You got a question? Please don't ask it
It puts the lotion in the basket
You say bigger's better but bigger's bigger
White boy dressed up like a
Figure drawn inside a toilet on the wall
The world is round,
My square don't fit at all
They say those who can't just instruct others
& act like victims or jilted lovers
You can't lose it if you never had it
Disappear man. Do some magic
You want a reason ? How is about because
You ain't a has been if you never was
I sound like this
Scared to say what is your passion
So slag it all
Bitter's in fashion
Fear of failure's all you've started
The jury is in, VERDICT:
Retarded,
I'm so tired and I'm wired too
I'm a mess I guess I'm turning on the screw."
Oh yeah. HEADBANG, BABY. ROCK N' ROLL!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm sorry to hear about that...wish I could give a hug over the net.
Anyways, back on topic...that's a pretty good ID for DA.
Nice Icon
the hair, clothing, and glowy fist-o-doom are all very nicely done, but whats the freaky thing over the eye?
QuoteMy bathtub is full of gravy, why is my bathtub full of gravy?
Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on July 31, 2007, 02:30:19 AM
the hair, clothing, and glowy fist-o-doom are all very nicely done, but whats the freaky thing over the eye?
She lost an eye permanently - probably some kind of curse as well since 'Cubi will tend to regrow things - so that's some kind of false eye. I can't remember the exact properties of it.
IIRC, the lens is to allow her to see colour again. Sort of.
Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on July 31, 2007, 02:30:19 AM
the hair, clothing, and glowy fist-o-doom are all very nicely done, but whats the freaky thing over the eye?
QuoteMy bathtub is full of gravy, why is my bathtub full of gravy?
Thank you very much, but ah, as for the freaky thing--that's actually part of her glasses. It's like that because her false eye is colorblind, so the magically-enhanced stained glass saturates it with color again. Only works when she is wearing them.
So yes, a thousand brownie points to Llearch and Tapewolf for remembering what the glasses are for. :P
~Keaton the Black Jackal
sorry to bug you about it, but i had never seen any reference to it. its a pretty unique design when i saw it and at first i thought "enchanted monocle" or "miniature computer display"
thanks for the explanation.
QuoteI HATE PANTS!
As I recall (and hence, this information is subject, once again, to ratification from the author) it's not... exactly the same as seeing colour from her normal, real, natural eye.
Although I suspect my information comes from hints in Tapewolf's story, so is reading between the lines of a totally different author... ;-]
Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on July 31, 2007, 01:02:39 PM
sorry to bug you about it, but i had never seen any reference to it. its a pretty unique design when i saw it and at first i thought "enchanted monocle" or "miniature computer display"
thanks for the explanation.
QuoteI HATE PANTS!
Nonono, it's absolutely fine. I haven't drawn Keaton in her glasses recently, so I decided to rectify that with this picture. When I first drew and inked everything I thought it looked like a weird monocle myself. XD
And you're welcome, it's what I'm here for.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCornaAs I recall (and hence, this information is subject, once again, to ratification from the author) it's not... exactly the same as seeing colour from her normal, real, natural eye.
Although I suspect my information comes from hints in Tapewolf's story, so is reading between the lines of a totally different author... ;-]
I never really thought about whether or not it would be the same. I guess there would be some artificial, subtle differences, like the colors being unnaturally dull or pastel-hued in that one eye, even with her glasses on. I've seen some images of what the world looks like to those who are colorblind in one eye--it's like everything is yellow-tinted, slightly. Which is what it's like for Keaton when her glasses are removed.
I should probably make some adjustments to what colors are like from Keaton's perspective. Hopefully when I have her reference sheet up I should add some minuscule notes there. X3 In the meantime, I should re-read over Tapewolf's story and search for the hints he has given.
Oh god, now I'm imagining Keaton as Mad-Eye Moody from Harry Potter. HE WAS AWESOME IN THE FOURTH BOOK/MOVIE.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Mad-Eye Keaton? =D
Quote from: Xze-Xze on July 31, 2007, 02:55:40 PM
Mad-Eye Keaton? =D
CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I know from experience that having eyes of different abilities can make you nuttier then Jiff.
when i was little, like six or so, my sister tried to administer eye drops to me when i had some problems, i started crying like my eye was on fire, she slapped me and told me to quiet down it was only *reads label* my brothers ear drops of a mild acid.
for about fourteen years i had one eye half the power of the other, and it was an endless source of headaches and trippy experiences as things in the room seem to jump between being five feet away and twenty feet away, change focus randomly, and occasionally melt to my left like someone opened the bathtub drain of reality. only when i got married did i actually buy glasses to stop this, and my left eye still feels like its being stabbed when i go into sunlight.... i can only imagine how completely insane someone with one eye picking up color and the other one not might be...
woah, permanent hallucination, thats gotta do things to your mental health.
QuoteWhen a man meets catastrophe on the road, he looks in his purse, but a woman looks in her mirror.
Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on August 01, 2007, 03:40:47 AM
I know from experience that having eyes of different abilities can make you nuttier then Jiff.
when i was little, like six or so, my sister tried to administer eye drops to me when i had some problems, i started crying like my eye was on fire, she slapped me and told me to quiet down it was only *reads label* my brothers ear drops of a mild acid.
for about fourteen years i had one eye half the power of the other, and it was an endless source of headaches and trippy experiences as things in the room seem to jump between being five feet away and twenty feet away, change focus randomly, and occasionally melt to my left like someone opened the bathtub drain of reality. only when i got married did i actually buy glasses to stop this, and my left eye still feels like its being stabbed when i go into sunlight.... i can only imagine how completely insane someone with one eye picking up color and the other one not might be...
woah, permanent hallucination, thats gotta do things to your mental health.
QuoteWhen a man meets catastrophe on the road, he looks in his purse, but a woman looks in her mirror.
Damn... that must've been a horrible experience. =/ I'm sorry to hear that happened to you, especially for that long.
As for insanity based off of how one would look with one eye picking up color and the other not, Keaton is already sort of nutty (she'd never admit it, though), unfortunately, but it's more on her indifferent stance towards death and dangerous spells. I imagine having one eye blind would be entirely more dangerous, what with the depth perception loss and all--one could miss all those corners, ledges, or other endangering obstacles outside the periphery of their limited vision and end up injured or even worse. :<
Notably, Keaton can remove her colorblind eye if she can detach all of the links to it, since it is fake. Once safely extricated, it turns into a little marble covered in stained glass pixels, quite similar to how her stained-glass glasses-lens looks.
Now you know.
And knowing is half the battle.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Soooo my Intarnetz was dead yesterday and the day before that, so I had virtually nothing to do. I could've done some drawing, but my drawing-muse was pretty dead at the moment, and I was generally rather down. So I decided to do something which doesn't really take any creative effort on my part: inking a picture via Macromedia Freehand. Which eventually evolved into me coloring aforementioned picture using a new highlighting technique.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-HrafnDoomColoredResized.jpg)
Soooooome of you who have browsed through my art topic may recognize this picture. AHA! I've tweaked it and made everything look better. Plus, I've added some shoulders (or I tried to, without fuxing up the lineart) upon some advice... didn't turn out so good. Ah well, I hope it at least made some difference. HOWEVAR, I am very happy with this overall, shoulders put off to the side. Mwahahahaa. :3 If I color more black-haired or black-furred characters, I will use this method of highlighting more often.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Thats majorcoolness
=D Houndoom!!!!!????
Good tast imo.
Quote from: Xze-Xze on August 04, 2007, 02:01:53 PM
=D Houndoom!!!!!????
YES HOUNDOOM =D My fellow Pokemon fan! Let us rejoice in the glory that is Nintendo! *puts on a Mismagius hat and prances off* ONWARD!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm quite sure that I was the only person I knew that wasn't a Pokemon fan.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 05, 2007, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: Xze-Xze on August 04, 2007, 02:01:53 PM
=D Houndoom!!!!!????
YES HOUNDOOM =D My fellow Pokemon fan! Let us rejoice in the glory that is Nintendo! *puts on a Mismagius hat and prances off* ONWARD!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*prances afterwards*
POKE'FIESTA!!! ...now let me go begin to draw pokemanz again X3
Quote from: Xze-Xze on August 05, 2007, 11:46:31 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 05, 2007, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: Xze-Xze on August 04, 2007, 02:01:53 PM
=D Houndoom!!!!!????
YES HOUNDOOM =D My fellow Pokemon fan! Let us rejoice in the glory that is Nintendo! *puts on a Mismagius hat and prances off* ONWARD!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*prances afterwards*
POKE'FIESTA!!! ...now let me go begin to draw pokemanz again X3
Nooooooooo!!!
Anyways, awesome pic Keaton. If all the pokemon started looking like that there might be hope for that series >:3
Well, Summer's nearly over for me and hurricane season is starting to begin (I think it normally begins around mid-August and September), meaning that I'd better get my ass in gear and finish all these requests, including some giftart for some generous people who've drawn for me in the past and I haven't returned the favor yet because I'm a bit fat stupid-head. Not intentionally, of course.
But for now here's one of the requests intended for Zedd, of his cyborg character Oni.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-ZeddOni.jpg?t=1187102865)
Someone really needs to kill me for how I bastardized that gun. I am so sorry, Zedd. D: Guns were never my forte, but I need to learn how to get them right. How can I be a decent artist if I CAN'T DRAW GUNS?
Ah well, other than the gun (hate!) I'm pretty happy with this picture, namely with Oni's physique and her hair. Enjoy the eye-candy.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
wow, zed seems to get drawn alot...
dont worry too much about the gun, if it gives you trouble try drawing a modern automatic pistol. most of the more modern ones are a solid piece so you can use straight edges more.
you did her underwear surprisingly good, though.
QuoteWhen I appear in public, people expect me to neigh, grind my teeth paw the ground and swish my tail --- none of which is easy.
I must admit I was expecting a bit more evidence of cybernetics, given that it was stated she was a cyborg, but hey... if it's supposed to be undetectable, that's fair enough. I can see I'll have to ask Zedd about this character now, my curiosity has been aroused.
The physique is good - she's slim, but not improbably so. And the gun... well, I can't draw guns either :P
If it helps, -most- of the gun is ok.
The only bit that's -really- messed up is the hilt, which should be on a different angle - more -\ than -|, if that makes sense (and looks ok in the font you're using)...
If you must ask...You shall reseve soon Tape. My you done well you nutty Jackal fox and I thank you muchly. And Brun..Its just anthor of my old orignal personalitys who drive me nuts.
Me likey Keaton. Also, WHOOO one more closer to mine :mwaha
Oy, that's just great! The gun's not that bad; as llearch said, the only thing I see that needs fixing is the hilt.
I've been having a rough few days. A terrible few days. Those who have heard me bitch and whine know the specific reasons why. Though whenever Keaton's upset and life is being a whore to her, what happens, kids?
Kids: Keaton's characters suffer for it!
Thaaaaaat's right. So here, I bring to you, depressing art depicting one of my characters in a very emaciated, downtrodden, and generally fucked-up state.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-LiannaPostJyranethComplete.jpg?t=1187296542)
Don't worry, it's work-safe. Before anyone asks, this isn't Keaton, although the little lady there bears an uncanny similarity. No, instead, this is none other than Keaton's older (by five minutes) twin sister, Lianna Bathsheba Jyraneth. Simply said, the downfall of her clan hasn't been kind to her, and she's now... well, if you want more information, read Future History of Jakob Pettersohn.
AHAHA I'm such a bitch. Though also as a note, Lianna will also be appearing in the Castle RP--although in the future. Needless to say, she won't be a happy camper.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Damn, she looks weary. Are those the enchanted bracers she's wearing?
A very expressive piece of work. Love the hair.
For those who are curious, 'Future History' can be found in this thread:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2274.0
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 16, 2007, 04:57:45 PM
Damn, she looks weary. Are those the enchanted bracers she's wearing?
A very expressive piece of work. Love the hair.
For those who are curious, 'Future History' can be found in this thread:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2274.0
Yes, those are the enchanted bracers. I sort of half-assed them, but they really are supposed to be very simplistic in design despite all my artistic instincts telling me to put fancy hieroglyphics and gemstones on it. But damn, all of the cool designs keep coming to me AFTER I'VE FINISHED THE DRAWING. D:
Thank you again for the comment. I really appreciate it. And the hair is one of my favorite aspects about the picture as well. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Its just one those days a cubi have ya know...It would be my guess I hope things look up for you both someday *major hugs*
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 16, 2007, 05:03:22 PM
Yes, those are the enchanted bracers.
I was kind of expecting them to get rid of the wings :3
On the other hand, if they didn't that would be even more distressing to the victim since the wings would continuously remind them of what they've lost.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 16, 2007, 05:17:09 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 16, 2007, 05:03:22 PM
Yes, those are the enchanted bracers.
I was kind of expecting them to get rid of the wings :3
On the other hand, if they didn't that would be even more distressing to the victim since the wings would continuously remind them of what they've lost.
Ah yeah, that probably would've been pretty similar to a patch in a way, only I find these bracers more parasitic. Like how they sap away the magical and natural capabilities a Creature is bestowed with from their wearer, I imagine they would completely wither away the wings. The reason Lianna's wings are drooping is because she's lost all control of them; they've been literally drained dry of energy and essence. Can't even lift them. It was really hard to convey total emaciation in her wings, since they're supposed to be the most decayed part about her. I should probably make some adjustments so that way the veins in the membrane are more protuberant, making it look taut and dry, and add some contours to the skeletal frame.
Dang, why does all the inspiration and ideas come to me
after I've posted the image?
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If it were coloured, you could use the colours to show the emaciation and decay of the wings.
And the bracers - I dunno. I'd be inclined to think a nice scabrous pattern, looking like green decay on brass, for example, would be downright excellent. And that's also plain colour.
After all, they'd match what they're putting her through.
One thinks, perhaps, about -moving- patterns - slowly migrating about the bracers, as it were, in an evil, "I'm crawling on your skin" kinds of way. In which case, however you draw them is ok. ;-]
Poor Lianna. She looks really miserable.
Great draswing, though.
Those are some EXTENSIVE tattoos, i would be impressed by anyone actually wearing that much... what i assume is eldritch writing. i dunno, im more of a Futhark rune guy myself.
QuoteI was sad that I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet. He gave me his shoes in exchange for a buss token.
Are they tattoos? I thought they were just Patterns on the fur. Granted, they would be rather complex, if that were the case, but hey, why not? :P
Actually, Haz is right, those are patterns on the fur. :) Keaton has similar markings, only they don't have the triangular fringes outlining them.
You guys surprised me with the extra comments while I was off playing video games with my friend. Thanks, everyone! :hug
SUPER-SPECIAL EDIT: Also... hmm. If I redraw Lianna and the bracers, I'll probably incorporate Llearch's suggestion into the design of the bracers. Because frankly, they are AWESOME. >:3 Have a bunny, Llearch. :bunny
For now, here is another drawing. UPLOADED TO DEVIANTART SO I CAN WHORE OUT MY ACCOUNT.
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/SCIII-Tira-Tira-Tira-62592995)
For those who are curious, this is Tira, from Soul Calibur III. She also is going to appear in Soul Calibur IV, but with an entirely different design. I just drew her up in her outdated apparel 'cos I love it, and 'cos I didn't have reference and I was too lazy to look for it stfu.
Enjoy, folks.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Thats my brothers favorite crush of a char...
That is one... freaky smile. :<
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 30, 2007, 10:38:49 PMCLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/KeatonSignatureQueensVersionwith-1.png?t=1185848657)
o_o;
Kinda looks like you're grabbing your left boob.
yep... I love it, Biatch!
Quote from: Goatmon on August 19, 2007, 04:05:29 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 30, 2007, 10:38:49 PMCLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/KeatonSignatureQueensVersionwith-1.png?t=1185848657)
o_o;
Kinda looks like you're grabbing your left boob.
you say that as though someone else should be doing so, or she should be doing so to someone else. While i am in favor of boob grabbing the question 'who' kind of kills that line of thought.
QuoteHonestly I had no idea your pants were flamable
To Goatmon: You kinda confused me as to which picture you were talking about until I clicked the link. XD Keaton actually isn't grabbing her boob--she's grabbing the eave of her jacket. Though now that you bring it up it does look like she's holding her boob.
...pffffffffffft. XD Okay, now I have that mental image stuck in my head. I'm caught between being disturbed and laughing. I needed that, in all seriousness.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Dear gods, I never noticed that. Somehow it looks less dodgy on the actual ID, fortunately :P
I just noticed, in that pic, that the two pics seem to differ greatly in appearance of age. The one done in Paint looks much younger (16-20 years) than the one done in Photoshop (~35 years).
And she does, indeed, appear as if she's grabbing her boob. :lol Though, I'm sure that can attributed mostly to the way her shirt stretches at that level. :P
Then again we are talking about a cubi whos about 20X's the level Zedd is...And probley had more knowlage in her head as well
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 19, 2007, 11:29:43 AM
...pffffffffffft. XD Okay, now I have that mental image stuck in my head. I'm caught between being disturbed and laughing. I needed that, in all seriousness.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
thats what i do, my work here is done.... its just so gosh darned fun.
QuoteFear the bunny
>______>
best post
Totally.
Mmkay. I'm back in school, which, for some reason, has increased my productivity since I have more opportunities to break out the paper and pencil during lunch break. One particularly fruitful day resulted in several pictures and me nearly finishing a difficult request picture, but I decided to scan in a pic to hold you guys off. Another, gruesome one will be inked and colored on Photoshop.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-LiannaBeforeandAfterLarger.jpg?t=1187726910)
I felt like drawing what Lianna looks like in comparison to how she did before the Jyraneth Clan disintegrated. While it's hard to tell (Actually, impossible), Lianna's hair used to be dyed a vibrant series of fiery colors. It's dirty blonde, like Keaton's, in her later incarnation.
I just enjoy drawing Lianna in general. But okay. Enough self-indulgence. XD I'll try to get all the requests finished as soon as possible.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Lovely
Very nice. I like the before one more but that's just cuz she looks all happy and such.
You have a very thin style anyway, which makes the differences between before and after more difficult to pick out. I mention this not because I'm complaining, which I'm not, but because it's a feature you should be aware of - and you probably are anyway :-)
Having said that, you've done well with both, here. I like the after shot, myself - the before shot, whilst well executed, and vibrant, and lively, shows the thin design too much for my liking. Go figure. :-/
The subtle differences in her markings also shows up well :-]
Oh, I like that. Do you have any plans for a colour rendition of the happy Lianna?
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2007, 08:07:10 PM
Oh, I like that. Do you have any plans for a colour rendition of the happy Lianna?
Heh, I'm glad you do. As for the coloring... I haven't planned on coloring it, but I am working on a colored image of a more grotesque picture as we speak. It should be uploaded hopefully soon. However, I'd really like to flaunt Lianna's hair color when she used to keep it dyed.
To everyone else, thanks a lot for the awesome comments. :) You all are great--and to Llearch, I looked over the pictures, and I see what you mean about the skinniness. I thought I was getting out of that... ah well, I'm probably slipping back in. I'll rectify that in future pictures.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*notices sig* Happy Noodle Boy?
*thinks* JTHM?!?!?!?!?
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 21, 2007, 09:14:48 PM
and to Llearch, I looked over the pictures, and I see what you mean about the skinniness. I thought I was getting out of that... ah well, I'm probably slipping back in. I'll rectify that in future pictures.
It's an overall stylistic comment, rather than specifics.
You have a skinnier style than, say, Charles Schultz had in Peanuts. That's just the way things go. It means Lianna in her "I've been beaten up by everyone" mode suits your style more than her "I'm on top of the world!" mode.
Being -aware- of that means you can pick pictures to draw that suit your style; I can't see you attempting to draw Charlie Brown, for example, whereas I -could- see you making a recognisable attempt at, say, Wile E Coyote, or Bugs Bunny.
Of course, if you're just trying to move more towards CB than BB, then yes, I guess you're slipping a bit :-]
Ah yeah, I've been meaning to do this picture for a while. Those who were paying attention last update heard me say that I was working on a picture which was one of my first violent submissions to this site...
CLICK HERE
(warning, contains blood) (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-TiraChildandHeadBloodwithLyric.jpg?t=1188174938)
Yes, it's Tira again, only much younger and during her violent childhood days. Why is she holding a decapitated head? Why is she so bland looking? Why am I asking so many fucking questions? Why did I put Rufus Wainwright lyrics in the picture?
The answer is this:
I don't know.
But nevertheless I'm very happy with this picture, even if it gave me a hell of a lot of trouble. I downloaded a bunch of blood brushes to use for this one.
The lyrics used in the picture don't belong to me. They belong to Rufus Wainwright, as I've mentioned before. Nor does Tira belong to me. She belongs to Namco, even when she's a little kid.
...I really hope I don't get flamed for this picture. :<
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Wow...that's actually beautiful, in an ethereal, scary sort of way.
Very nice.
I love the colors
Love. Pure love.
That's quite a bit o' blood, there. :B Not a big fan of blood, to be honest, but that doesn't make this any less cool.
Wow, I didn't get flamed for the last picture. :) Awesome. I'm really glad you guys liked it!
Here's one of the requests I had promised a long while back, guys--one of Paladin's character, Ephrael. He specifically requested for Eph to be using a compound bow, so I gave it a try--the bow itself looks okay, but it doesn't really RESEMBLE a compound bow in particular. So I am sad about that aspect of the picture. >:
Otherwise, I'm pretty happy, since Eph looks a bit like Nami from One Piece. XD
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-ForPal.jpg?t=1188328420)
Three more requests to go, then Imma gonna start a new project and keep requests closed for a while. I'm planning on tackling Fanart 100 once I've gotten my schedule cleaned off, or try my hand at the original art counterpart to that. I'm still a little undecided about which I should go... so I might hold a poll if I don't make up my mind.
Basically, it's simple: either I draw 100 pieces of fanart, each individual picture based off of an artistic prompt, focusing on Tira from Soul Calibur III and IV, or I draw 100 pictures featuring Keaton, set to those same guidelines.
Either way, enjoy your picture. I hope you like it, Pal!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I regret to say it's not instantly recognisable as her, at least not in sketch form. I think in part it's because the face is more angular than the renditions I'm used to. Don't take that to mean it's a problem, mind... it's more a case of putting a different spin on the character.
And 100 pieces of fan-art? That's mental :B
Hope you can pull it off.
Really nice...I hope your hand will still be keen with your hundred artness
Hey, I remember Eph! Pal threw her at me, once, after giving him a random hug. xD Very nice work, as always, though I have one question: on her right shoulder, there seems to be a crease or something, like from clothing, but from what I can tell, her shoulder is bare. (Alright, so it's not a question, but you get my point. :P)
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 28, 2007, 03:34:25 PMAnd 100 pieces of fan-art? That's mental :B
Hope you can pull it off.
That's what I was thinking. :O
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on August 28, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
Hey, I remember Eph! Pal threw her at me, once, after giving him a random hug. xD Very nice work, as always, though I have one question: on her right shoulder, there seems to be a crease or something, like from clothing, but from what I can tell, her shoulder is bare. (Alright, so it's not a question, but you get my point. :P)
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 28, 2007, 03:34:25 PMAnd 100 pieces of fan-art? That's mental :B
Hope you can pull it off.
That's what I was thinking. :O
You're right, the shoulder is bare, but that crease isn't caused by clothing. It's the edge of collarbone. ;) I always draw it really prominently... but there are probably a lot of errors with how I've drawn it. I should fix that in the next picture I do.
Thanks again for the awesome comments, everyone. ^^ And for the encouragement with the Art 100 project. I'm pretty sure my art-drawin' hand won't fall off. At the worst it'll just strangle me while I sleep! :3
Nah, I'm just shittin' you all. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine, especially since the guidelines to the 100 Themes/Fanart 100 say that the submitted pictures can be anything from minor drabbles and incomplete scribbles to a fully colored slice o' awesome. I decided I'll probably put up a poll or flip a coin or something to decide which list I do... but for the record here are the links to the 100 Themes/Fanart 100 project.
http://100challenge.cjb.net/ < -- 100 Themes
http://community.livejournal.com/fanart100/ < -- Fanart 100
All the cool kids are doing it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Thank you soooo much Keats!
Annnd yet another request is finished. This one came out rather well in my opinion. I just like it.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-HazandKeatonComplete.jpg?t=1188946029)
This here is xHaZxMaTx's request. Specifically, he wanted his character hugging Keaton. Keaton reacts appropriately to being unexpectedly hugged.
Also, I decided to put up a poll to decide whether I should do Fanart 100 or 100 Themes. Mind you, requests are first priority, so I'll start illustrating the images AFTER I'm done with the requests. Vote plz nao. For those who are curious about what Fanart 100 and 100 Themes are, I have provided the links to their respective pages, where the prompt lists are, in some of my previous posts in this topic.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hugs! :tighthug
That's flippin' great! Thank you soooooooo much! :D
I was expecting more violence, but it is a lovely picture.
...why is there no "Both!" option in the poll? ;)
And yes, I had also been expecting blood and/or pain after reading the description :P But it's a very nice picture! The detail in Keaton's neck-and-above area fascinates me each and every time I see it.
Well I must say, dear, that in my absence, you've improved much, much more than I'd anticipated. Your style, and works are outright stunning now, and I enjoy them quite much. As a plus, it's also nice to see ya someplace again. :p
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 04, 2007, 07:06:47 PM
I was expecting more violence, but it is a lovely picture.
That'd be the next pic, Tape. :-]
Nice pics, KBJ. As always, in your own inimitable style.
You always was a jumpy person during the place
That is a very cute pic...like the expression of confusion on Keaton's face as Haz hugs her.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 04, 2007, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 04, 2007, 07:06:47 PM
I was expecting more violence, but it is a lovely picture.
That'd be the next pic, Tape. :-]
Why would anyone wanna hurt little ol' me? *Tries to look innocent and cute.* :3
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on September 05, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
Why would anyone wanna hurt little ol' me? *Tries to look innocent and cute.* :3
... where do I start the list? ;-]
At the top, I would assume.
Wow, the feedback was great on the last picture, plus I have a lot of votes for the poll (not counting my own, as I voted for a random side so I could view the results). Thanks, everyone! I'll probably close the poll once the final request is finished.
And this takes care of one of the last requests. All that's left to do is Bill's, which should be relatively easy.
For the record, I hold no responsibility for any eye-injury one suffers from staring directly into this image.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-NetMousie.jpg?t=1189027381)
Ugh, I am NOT happy with this picture. The anatomy's all screwy and I probably crammed more inaccuracies with the character's design than what is humanly possible in here. This was very difficult for me since all the references I had were all of 3D models, so it was sort of hard for me to make out some of the finer details, such as what the clothing was really like (the surface of the clothing was flat and it was hard to tell if he was wearing a vest over something, or a belt, or if that was actually part of his shirt, etcetera...) and the parts consisting of the mousie's mechanical arm.
Blaaagh. Still, I hope Netrogo likes his picture. If there's anything wrong with it, Net, just PM me so I can fix it up, or possibly redraw the image.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Didnt know Nergo was a cubi...My sence musnt picked him up...
Grate tast drawing IMO.
Cyborgs for. The. WIN!
You have a marvelous mechanical masterpiece here. But I'm a little baised, I'm a sucker for anything metal or circuits :3
His right arm looks a bit messed up (the shoulder looks too low), but other than that, it looks fine. Then again, I don't know what the character you referenced looks like, so... :animesweat The attention to detail in the mechanical arm is pretty nifty, though. :3
It's not without flaws, but I'm a bit of a sucker for cybernetics so I guess it evens out :P
Whooo!!!! Awesome awesome awesome!!! That looks freaking great Keats! I don't see any inacuracies myself. I love how you did the arm and the eye, I was worried you'd have trouble with them but they look amazing! The only thing on it I could make any kind of criticism of is that the muzzle (is it a muzzle on mice too?) is squarish instead of round, but I know the squared off muzz is your style so it's not really something to crit.
Again LOVE IT!!!
Oh and yeah Zedd, my SL av is a cubi.
I dig the clothes, they really look creative. the fastener on the shirt looks a bit strange however
Quote from: Netrogo on September 06, 2007, 12:40:16 PM
Whooo!!!! Awesome awesome awesome!!! That looks freaking great Keats! I don't see any inacuracies myself. I love how you did the arm and the eye, I was worried you'd have trouble with them but they look amazing! The only thing on it I could make any kind of criticism of is that the muzzle (is it a muzzle on mice too?) is squarish instead of round, but I know the squared off muzz is your style so it's not really something to crit.
Again LOVE IT!!!
Oh and yeah Zedd, my SL av is a cubi.
Oh my GOD thank god you like the picture. XD I was so worried you wouldn't like it! *breathes a sigh of relief* Still, wow. Thank you for the praise! =D Once again, I'm so glad you like the picture. ^^
And to everyone else, thanks for the awesome comments. :) This picture was more better-received than I thought it would be. XD You all absolutely rock.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
It's a horrible picture! The lines aren't clean and sharp, the material is all wrong, the colours are too dark, the whites are too light, and furthermore, I don't like the way you hold your tongue when you're working!
... and before anyone takes that the wrong way, I'm joking. "You all absolutely rock" just triggered a response... ;-]
Slightly more seriously, the picture is well done - the wings, for example, are brilliantly detailed. I'd be interested in seeing how it worked out in colour, although the line work is more designed for B+W, I'll grant...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 06, 2007, 04:13:50 PM
It's a horrible picture! The lines aren't clean and sharp, the material is all wrong, the colours are too dark, the whites are too light, and furthermore, I don't like the way you hold your tongue when you're working!
... and before anyone takes that the wrong way, I'm joking. "You all absolutely rock" just triggered a response... ;-]
Slightly more seriously, the picture is well done - the wings, for example, are brilliantly detailed. I'd be interested in seeing how it worked out in colour, although the line work is more designed for B+W, I'll grant...
oh noes my delicate ego. :cry I'm going to go set every cardboard box in my garage on fire as RETALIATION. I hope one of them is your sister or your long-lost cousin, you evil box, you!
no, really. XD In all honesty thank you for the actual response. I just had to respond in a tongue-in-cheek manner to your also tongue-in-cheek post. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Does Netrogo know that 'Cubi tend to regrow missing limbs? :3
*gasp!* But that would defeat the purpose of becoming an awsome cyborg!
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on September 07, 2007, 09:44:43 AM
*gasp!* But that would defeat the purpose of becoming an awsome cyborg!
Unless there's some magical agent to prevent it regrowing. Or he cuts his arm off every few years...
I thought regrowing limbs took effort on the part of the cubi.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 07, 2007, 10:05:36 AM
I thought regrowing limbs took effort on the part of the cubi.
Llearch didn't: http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2022.msg118506#msg118506
...but I don't know what the source of his assertion is.
Actually the story behind him having the cybernetic stuff is not what people would think. Y'know how people get addicted to plastic surgery and stuff? Think that only more metal then plastic. True he could probably remove them and regrow said limbs now that he's not addicted to getting everything he can replaced, but he's just gotten used to them. Plus he, like most, thinks he looks completely bad ass with them.
Oh and something not shown in the pic, his right leg from the knee down is also mechanical.
Quote from: Netrogo on September 07, 2007, 12:21:36 PM
Actually the story behind him having the cybernetic stuff is not what people would think. Y'know how people get addicted to plastic surgery and stuff?
Ah.
QuoteOh and something not shown in the pic, his right leg from the knee down is also mechanical.
I don't think many people have looked at the idea of augmented 'Cubi. Dorcan is my contribution to this field, the catch being that he's completely robotic because he died. It was quite interesting to think that one through, because of all the powers that he's lost.
For yours (what's his name?) shapeshifting is going to be a problem, but everything else should be pretty much okay.
He is me who is Net.
He spawned from my SL avatar.
Kinda reminds me...Nergo..Your cubi almost reminds me of a protoform of mine yet mine was more like cybernetic arm and leg
Quote from: Netrogo on September 07, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
He spawned from my SL avatar.
Do you mind putting up a picture of that for reference? I'd be interested to see him.
And, if you've thought him out far enough to have a story yet, I'd be curious to know if he's supposed to be concurrent with DMFA or sometime in the future.
Sure, I just hope Keats doesn't mind me apparently taking over her thread >.<
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Netrogo/?action=view¤t=MouseNet_002.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Netrogo/?action=view¤t=MouseNet_003.jpg
There we go. As you can see Keaton made me look a lot less cutesy in the pic 8)
Quote from: Netrogo on September 07, 2007, 01:14:09 PM
Sure, I just hope Keats doesn't mind me apparently taking over her thread >.<
Cool. Obviously it's up to her really, but putting up the original references to compare against her rendition seems on-topic to me.
Actually, I don't mind at all. :3 I don't think you guys are taking over the thread, to be honest, I just think you are having a discussion. I'll only get worried if I feel like a fight is about to break out, and it doesn't look like that's about to happen anytime soon.
So there's nothing to worry about, guys. ^^ By the way, I've gotten Bill's request mostly finished, expect it to be up sometime later tonight or tomorrow.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Oh we wouldn't dream of starting a fight in your thread Keats.
*Sneaks around when nobody's looking and punches Tape in the back of the head*
Aha, I finally got the last request done! Huzzah and whatnot! Joy to the world and three cheers!
I just hope that Bill likes it, and that it's accurate to the character description he provided. :) Problem is I'm not very good at capturing characters when I have no pictures to go off of--I get sort of paranoid that my initial envisioning of the character will be inaccurate.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-BillsRequest.jpg?t=1189273652)
I adamantly disagree with the popular complaint among anthro-oriented artists that humans are difficult or boring to draw. On the contrary, I enjoy drawing humans. I still need to grasp them somewhat, but I don't want to neglect drawing humans because they're slightly more difficult than drawing anthros.
Besides, humans are a bit more of a challenge to make their designs look more original and individual, since they don't have fur colors/unrealistic eye colors (unless they are aliens/using contacts/of another humanoid race/are magically cursed/pigmentation problem/a Mary-Sue) to really distinguish them. I'm still working on making facial features more individual, since I realized that my facial features are generally the same shape. I need to practice more.
Oh, and by a landslide, Piix has won the poll! Expect the introductory picture to her 100 Themes series up shortly! :) Thanks for your votes, everyone!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Looks fine to me (ear looks a bit big, but eh). :3 Though I have one question: Who is it?
your mother
To be honest I have doubts about the eyes and the nose. The eyes seem too large, the nose is too long. Apart from that, it's great.
Personally, that's pretty much what I had in mind. Which is grate.
Thx*10^43
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 08, 2007, 01:54:23 PM
Besides, humans are a bit more of a challenge to make their designs look more original and individual, since they don't have fur colors/unrealistic eye colors (unless they are aliens/using contacts/of another humanoid race/are magically cursed/pigmentation problem/a Mary-Sue) to really distinguish them. I'm still working on making facial features more individual, since I realized that my facial features are generally the same shape. I need to practice more.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Yeah, I'm not stranger to that. I'm by no means a DBZ fan, I have barely seen any episodes. So to me, since I'm not a fan and don't really know the characters anyway, when everyone goes Super Saiyen, they look exactly alike :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 08, 2007, 02:00:59 PM
To be honest I have doubts about the eyes and the nose. The eyes seem too large, the nose is too long. Apart from that, it's great.
Ah, I really appreciate this critique, especially since I'm a bit of a newcomer when it comes to drawing humans. The Tira picture came out alright, but this one seems to have some facial issues. If I end up coloring this one I might adjust this during the inking.
Normally I would attribute large eyes to my style of drawing, but I tend to get a little twitchy when artists are given perfectly valid critiques and they go, "It's my style, get over it," which I have encountered before. In the future, I'll try and see if I can make the eyes proportionately and more realistically smaller--as well as the bridge of the nose. ESPECIALLY the nose. Now that you mention it, it definitely is too long. Eep!
To Bill, you're welcome. :) If you want any adjustments made or aren't satisfied with the image, I can work on it again. To everyone else, thanks for the comments! =D
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Nice pic - I like the look on his face. Sort of a gentle smile, or something.
If I might expand on the eyes and nose theme a little, his left eye (on your right as you look at the pic) is a touch low - the outside corner of the eye should be level with the join of the ear to the head. And the nose, as well as being too long, is shifted to the right, or his left. This is probably caused by the size of his right eye - I think his left one is more reasonably sized, if a tad offset.
Other than that, his hand is a bit off, and... well... how big is his meat-and-two-veg? ;-]
*cough* attempting to be constructive with the criticism, as it were...
...*evil idea*
Quote from: Xze-Xze on September 09, 2007, 10:32:47 AM
...*evil idea*
Uh ohes? :<
But anyhooooo. *turns around in a swiveling chair* Today was a little bit productive and I decided to draw two characters I've been meaning to doodle for a while, but never got around to it because I a) didn't have the time, b) didn't solidify their designs, c) was lazy, d) voodoo. I think it's D, but that's because I'm a voodoo fool.
Anyhoooo2. These are two characters from Keaton's backstory, one which plays an active role and the other who won't spend much time on-stage when it's finally written for the forums, but has expanded beyond his original design.
CLICK HERE FOR FIRST IMAGE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Aeriko.jpg?t=1189458362)
This here is Aeriko Iyakune-Kamei'Sin, studious, hard-working, and unfortunate victim. He was born to a Kamei'Sin Incubus and a Being woman, spending most of his childhood studying magic and compensating for his physical inadequacy with prodigal mind-reading abilities which, surprisingly, erratically developed at a young age. Other children either avoided or mocked him because of his wings, feminine build, and sickly condition, leaving Aeriko rather isolated.
The clan marking which resulted from his magical studies and practices wasn't a problem. The superstitious and fearful townspeople, who had long distrusted the family due to their "freakish child," wouldn't suspect a tattoo despite it manifesting in the most conspicuous of places. It was when the head-wings grew in that things became intolerable, and Aeriko was sent to SAIA for not only his own protection, but to help control his volatile and drastically enhanced mind-reading abilities, which were now making him involuntarily detect the surface thoughts of others. This brought nothing but bad news for Aeriko, endangering his stability because of these uncontrollable mind-readings.
He happened to arrive to SAIA on the same day Keaton did.
Quite a shame about what happened to him. I wasn't expecting for Aerrie to develop a backstory, but I wasn't satisfied with the idea of his fate happening just because he was a bully. Instead, I decided to do a little role reversal, and made Keaton the bully, and Aeriko the victim who struck back. It's a little more in Keaton's nature to make life a living hell for someone if they're part of a clan which has robbed her of everything, after all.
CLICK HERE FOR SECOND PICTURE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Kytharion.jpg?t=1189460887)
Now for Kytharion, the primary antagonist of Keaton's backstory, who also faces a rather... unfortunate fate. The difference is, this one was quite well-deserved.
Simply said, Kytharion is a bastard son-of-a-bitch who manipulates and exploits others for a living, thriving on other's dependency by controlling villages in the clutches of his army of subordinates and harvesting their tributes for "protection." If there's any redeeming quality to him, at least he's cultured and knows what he's doing. Other than that, he's an asshole.
In case you're wondering about the bags under his eyes, he's an insomniac and thus doesn't get a lot of sleep, even in his many long years of living. Irritability and nighttime frustration is often an episodic predicament with Kytharion, so he tends to take it out on his subordinates by orchestrating them into positions they clearly detest, such as pairing them up with others they hate, assigning them to missions they loathe or that pain them, or etcetera.
Kytharion is very obsessed with sleep and trying to fall asleep, since it chisels away at his stamina and stability, so he pays a lot of money for potions and formulas that are intended to assist him with sleeping, which almost always inevitably fail. Nights are normally spent just lying in bed, fitfully staring at the neighboring wall or blankly into space, and when he does fall asleep, he is always plagued by terrible nightmares. Some have believed that Kytharion's cursed, and considering how persistent this ailment of his is, this could be the case.
Enjoy the pics and biographies, everyone.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Nice. What kind of creature is Aeriko?
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 10, 2007, 06:17:19 PM
Nice. What kind of creature is Aeriko?
Thank you. ^^ And Aeriko's an Incubus Iguana. I love reptiles.
I should probably make a leopard gecko character in the future.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Maybe it's just the lack of avian-types that I've seen.
But Kyth makes me think of Jouster, just gone mad. X3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 10, 2007, 06:26:45 PM
I should probably make a leopard gecko character in the future.
Signed. :3
Excellent backstory. Demands actual story IMO. :U
Nice pics.
The look on Kyth's face puts me in mind of the bird characters from The Pride Of Life (http://chikara-z.xepher.net/pol/index.html)...
I note his chest/arms haven't been drawn at all. Is that a lack of content to draw, or just fading the bottom half of the picture out?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 11, 2007, 03:35:47 AM
Nice pics.
The look on Kyth's face puts me in mind of the bird characters from The Pride Of Life (http://chikara-z.xepher.net/pol/index.html)...
I note his chest/arms haven't been drawn at all. Is that a lack of content to draw, or just fading the bottom half of the picture out?
I should probably check out that website once I get out of school, because most of the graphics are not loading for me. :< St00pid comp00ter.
As for the chest and arms... it fades out with the bottom half of the picture. I didn't draw the chest because I tried, and it looked really stupid, so I erased it and hoped nobody would notice. XD
Thanks for the comments, everyone! =D I'm working on a new, really detailed picture. Probably my first one which involves multiple characters.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Ah. A little of column A, a little of column B. ;-] No worries.
AHAHA, I FINALLY FINISHED THIS THING.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonsFamilyComplete-1.jpg?t=1189625560)
I'm happy with just about everybody in this picture except for Noah (the guy on the far left). Oh well. Can't have everything, and besides, he'll probably be drawn again in the future. As will everyone else, preferably with their signature weapons out.
For those who are curious, this is, in the flesh and blood, Keaton's family. Not included in the image are Keaton and Lianna, because I wanted to conserve space. Unfortunately, all of those portrayed here died tragic deaths, save for Keaton's mother, the lady in the middle. I have yet to decide what has become of Keaton's mother.
But anyway, I have compiled, for your knowledge, information about Keaton's family. Enjoy.
From left to right: Noah, Jasmine, Esmeralda, Elizabeth, Salem, and Sierra. For the record, their heights are probably not as accurately portrayed as they are supposed to be, so I also included their heights in their information.
Noah Zachariah Jyraneth: Keaton's role model and the eldest child in the Keaton Clan. Resident bish. Too bad he's a total zealot. Noah was the pride and joy of his parents, excelling in his studies and training and quickly rising through the ranks of the Jyraneth Raiders until he was fighting alongside some of the finest warriors they had to offer. Level-headed, confident, and headstrong, Noah forges a mighty personality beyond his diminutive height to intimidate those who dare confront him, but is surprisingly tender around those he cares about—specifically his family. He is very sarcastic and possesses a razor-sharp tongue, although he avoids cursing and losing his temper and curbs his rage through sardonic comments. Secretly he is constantly evaluating his efforts and thinking of ways to improve himself, although without the fervent frustration that Jasmine suffers from.
When more and more sisters were introduced, Noah took it upon himself to educate his younger siblings and oversee them as a perfect big brother. He was especially close with his sister Katherine, as she shared the same sense of twisted humor and looked up to him as a hero. He was almost always there when his parents weren't to serve as a fatherly figure for his younger sisters, comforting them and uplifting them in their darkest moments. Unfortunately, he's as zealous as they come, and while insults may not enrage him, violations of the laws of the Jyraneth Clan certainly will. He doesn't question the laws and rules set by the Jyraneth Clan, upholding them with religious devotion.
Random Tidbits:- Noah is 5'4". Very short for a male.
- Noah's age at his time of death/disappearance was 89. He would be 540 today, if my mediocre math skills are correct.
- Noah's clan marking is found on the back of his right shoulder, just above his wing.
- Noah's weapon is a Großes Messer, or Grosses Messer (or Heibmesser if we want to get complicated)—a German single-edged weapon. It is called Devastation.
- Noah would be voiced by James Marsden.
Jasmine Meinir Jyraneth: Standing at a grand total of 7'8", Jasmine is afflicted with gigantism, in which—described roughly—is characterized by excessive height growth. It was because of her gigantism and the lack of medical resources in that age that her family judged her life expectancy to be exceedingly short, especially with the violent lifestyle of the Jyraneth, and ruled her out as a potential candidate to continue the family legacy.
Jasmine was far from a gentle giant. Her personality was brutal, aggressive, domineering—excessively violent and a zealot in general. In battle she was unforgiving, smashing and tearing and laughing all the way, enjoying fighting and bloodshed like one would a game. Her nature even made the more seasoned and dogmatist Jyraneths uncomfortable, even when she's trying her best to be friendly. She exaggerated everything, and while she tried her best to be a good sister, her presence agitated her more level-headed siblings. Because of what she perceived as a rejection towards her chance of being her parents' pride and joy, she was exceedingly unforgiving of her own mistakes and criticized herself mercilessly.
Random Tidbits:- Jasmine is the tallest in her family, as well as the most physically fit.
- Jasmine was 87 when she died.
- Jasmine's weapon is a two-handed battleaxe named Cataclysm. It was lost after Jasmine's death, likely stolen by a scavenger, or maybe even taken by Keaton during one of her visits back to the ruins of Harla'Keth.
- Jasmine's clan marking is next to her navel.
- Jasmine's violent death was instrumental in how Lianna went insane, because she was killed right in front of her and this was later a frequent topic of Lianna's hallucinations and nightmares.
Esmeralda Ashtoreth Jyraneth: Esmeralda has inherited most of her father's physical traits, although she hasn't been bestowed with the customary bloodlust evident in most members of Jyraneth Clan. Preferring art over the battlefield, Esmeralda spent every available free minute of her life idly doodling and painting, practicing in every art media known to man so to exercise her artistic abilities, and constantly entrenching herself into her personal fantasy world where she freely imagined new ideas and characters to illustrate. One would even jokingly say that she preferred her imaginary world over the tangible plane, an assessment which is unsurprisingly accurate.
Esmeralda is always spacey, staring off into seemingly nothing and zoning out in the middle of usually one-sided conversations. Because of this people have dismissed her as either stupid or frustrating, but in reality, Esmeralda holds a deeper perspective than the shallow-minded, dogmatist Jyraneth that brand her with such unfair stereotypes. Esmeralda cares deeply for her siblings and her family, and while she may not be the best fighter, still throws herself into everything she does, even if she would rather be drawing than committing unspeakable atrocities.
Random Tidbits:- Esmeralda was 5'3".
- Esmeralda was 76 when she died.
- Esmeralda's weapons were two weighted tonfas. Their names were Scourge and Fiasco.
- Her fighting style was based off of a combination of Gin from One Piece and Talim from Soul Calibur III.
- Esmeralda's clan marking is emblazoned on the underside of her forearm.
- Esmeralda adores lightweight, simplistic jewelry and fashion in general.
- Esmeralda is certainly not slightly based off of Luna Lovegood... really! *shifty eyes*
- Esmeralda is the only full-blooded fennec fox in the family besides her father, Salem.
Elizabeth Cassandra Jyraneth: The mommy of the Keaton Clan. Formerly a seasoned and talented berserker-warrior, she retired shortly after becoming pregnant with Noah. Overbearing, she attempts to push her lifestyle onto every one of her children in the interests of furthering the Jyraneth clan, although much to her dismay she has discovered that not every one of her children, unlike Noah, fits her perfectionist standards or has decided to adhere to her wishes.
She is an extremely critical woman, appraising every effort her children do, no matter whether or not they're actually keeping her in mind, and constantly criticizing everyone around her. She does have several soft spots in all honesty, but most people (even including some members of her family, such as Lianna and Sierra) greatly dislike being in her company and consider her to be a second-rate person. She sounds like an overbearing bitch, but really, she just wants what's best for her children, and believes that pushing them into the Jyraneth Raiders will accomplish that. Plus, her attitude is possibly attributed to her experience among the Jyraneth Raiders.
Random Tidbits:- Elizabeth is 5'4".
- Elizabeth was 2,480 when Keaton and Lianna were born, and was 2,548 when the Jyraneth empire collapsed.
- Elizabeth's clan marking is located on her chest, just near her collarbone.
- She was the original owner of Keaton's weapon, Catastrophe, but gave it to her once she graduated into the Jyraneth Raiders.
- Elizabeth has a penchant for unusual outfits, specifically ones made out of silk and velvet, although as a habit she often wears more battle-friendly attires underneath her luxurious dresses.
- Her voice is probably very similar to Suzanne Pleshette, who voiced Zira from the Lion King II.
- Psssst... Elizabeth is still alive, but she probably doesn't know Keaton and Lianna are as well.
Salem Alexander Jyraneth: The devoted daddy and the second fennec fox in the family, so he's easy to distinguish by his ENORMOUS FREAKING EARS and shorter muzzle. A blacksmith specializing in magical weaponry, he is responsible for the creation of the Disaster Family, the series of weapons which belong to each member of the Keaton Clan. He isn't a very powerful fighter, but is one of the first Jyraneth blacksmiths to create weapons (not staffs) capable of channeling and enhancing magic through them.
Salem was easily one of the smartest members of the Keaton Clan, although he hid his calculating nature through a laid-back attitude and a casual demeanor. He was much less overbearing than his wife, Elizabeth, and was more concerned with actually listening to his children than impressing a future they may have not wanted on them. Because of this he was much more understanding, and held a deeper relationship with his family than Elizabeth did.
Random Tidbits:- Salem is 5'6".
- His clan marking is found on the left side of his ribcage.
- Salem was 2,122 when Elizabeth gave birth to Keaton and Lianna, and was 2,190 years old at his time of death.
- Salem once owned Noah's weapon, although Salem preferred using magic and exploiting the magical properties of his weapons rather than hacking and slashing people like weeds.
- Salem's hands are scarred and calloused from blacksmithing.
- Salem would probably be voiced by Ewan MacGregor.
Sierra Diana Jyraneth: Sierra is perhaps the gentlest among Keaton's family, something unusual among not only her bloodline, but the clan in general. Stricken by a disease that befouled her health at a young age, she spent a great majority of her life bedridden and remained too fragile to participate in any forms of combat even when she reached adulthood.
Her close encounter with death bestowed her with a perspective entirely alien to most of her clansmen and family, one which actually gave her more of an understanding of the Jyraneths' victims. This even made her engage in inner conflicts between the undying, blind loyalty to the clan and its laws and her own empathy towards lives. Thankful that she never could enter battle, she hid behind a veil of disillusionment to mask her uncertainty, one which never relented except when in the presence of her most trusted allies. Unfortunately, Sierra had deep, almost obsessive trust issues, so these aforementioned allies were very few.
Random Tidbits:- Sierra was 5'5".
- Sierra was 84 when she died.
- Sierra never wielded a weapon. She also never had a clan marking, since she did not practice magic.
- Sierra's illness is of such intensity that she can't leave the house without constant supervision, but can still walk around inside. She rarely leaves the house, however, unless explicitly necessary.
- A good comparison for Sierra's voice is Tara Strong. Since Tara Strong can change voices like a chameleon changes colors, the specific voice I would want would be something akin to Raven's, from Teen Titans.
- Sierra's theme song is "Suture Up Your Future," by Queens of the Stone Age.
I do like that, although at the same time it's kind of sad, since they look so happy but they're mostly dead.
The only criticism I have is the lack of consistency - some figures are darker than others.
I note Salem is missing a half a finger.
Also, what's a tonfa?
Tonfa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonfa) are pretty nifty. My friend (ninja) has a pair.
As for some characters showing up darker/lighter than other, you could say that Salem shows up the darkest because he's the most outgoing, and the lightest, Sierra, is very secluded.
...Or maybe I'm not making any sense. :P
Whoa. O_o I'll try to give a more detailed comment tomorrow (headache right now, sorry). But for the moment...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 12, 2007, 03:49:12 PM
AHAHA, I FINALLY FINISHED THIS THING.
*looks at the many and complicated patterns and stuff* Got two words for you:
Ink it. >:3
Quote from: xTaMxZaHx on September 12, 2007, 05:29:48 PM
Tonfas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonfa) are pretty nifty. My friend (ninja) has a pair.
Ah, I see. According to that article, and appropriately with what I know of Polynesian languages, "tonfa" is both plural and singular in form, so it'd be "a tonfa" and "a pair of tonfa" - slightly confusing, though. ;-]
... and Anglicised words tend to get munched into more or less standard plural forms anyway, so it's only worth mentioning if you want to make someone look small, or provide someone with ammo to make -you- look small, depending on how smart they are. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 12, 2007, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: xTaMxZaHx on September 12, 2007, 05:29:48 PM
Tonfas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonfa) are pretty nifty. My friend (ninja) has a pair.
Ah, I see. According to that article, and appropriately with what I know of Polynesian languages, "tonfa" is both plural and singular in form, so it'd be "a tonfa" and "a pair of tonfa" - slightly confusing, though. ;-]
I actually knew that, but I guess I wasn't paying much attention when typing that. ;)
My your family is bigger than mine
Ooh I like how Kytharion looks. You certainly can't go wrong with Avians. :3
:U Can I just sit and gasp . . . all those characters, and all those tatoos and closing designs.
How do you know go crazy if you need to draw those the same twice!
Oh. Just as a fair warning; I can neither confirm nor deny the possibly that I may have unintentionally given Keaton several very awesome character ideas. That is all.
Busy busy busy. I actually really like school, but sometimes it can be a little draining. Ah well. Soon I'll have some more sketches up this week (I'm not saying of what), maybe a colored image, but right now I have this newest drawing including a new, semi-spontaneous addition to Keaton's backstory.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Tikal.jpg?t=1190055755)
Before anyone asks, this character is not a side character, nor is he a member of Jyraneth clan. No, he's more closely related to Keaton than anyone probably will guess. Since there's no tactful way to put this, I might as well just blurt it out: he is Keaton's illegitimate son.
If you're wondering where his head-wings are, I have to tell you that he is not a Cubi. He is an Angel, taken after his father. Yes, Kytharion (Keaton's enslaver and the main antagonist of her upcoming backstory) is the father of Keaton's child, and no, his conception was
not consensual. The circumstances of his procreation, combined with the fact she was carrying
Kytharion's child, nearly led Keaton to kill the child, but ultimately her conscience as well as the beliefs and teachings preached to her in Jyraneth Clan (it forbids the death or general harming of any child) convinced her to keep it. When she gave birth to the kid in seclusion, however, she deposited him in front of a home and fled.
Yeah, it's a really morbid story, and probably the worst thing I've ever done to Keaton. Don't flame me! :cry
Either way, the kid is still alive and goes by the name of Tikal. Since Keaton gave birth to him when she was eighty-two, he's four hundred years old in present time. As for what he's doing... well, I have yet to work on that. But an unhappy reunion between mother and son may be possible. I'll probably feature him in an intermission or main chapter in Keaton's backstory, but I need to figure out how to do it without presenting it in a a) manipulative, b) overly explicit, or c) amateurish manner. Especially since using rape as a plot device is, unfortunately, very common in the fanfiction world, and very rarely done in an expert manner.
...STILL DON'T FLAME ME! :< Oh yeah, and enjoy the picture.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You've set yourself quite a challenge, there, Keaton.
... at least the artwork is worthy. It remains to see if the story is likewise, but I retain hope :-]
nice drawing.
If I may offer my advice, since it happened 400 years ago in continuity, why not simply gloss over the whole matter in the story and say "yeah, he's Keaton's son, she doesn't get along well with his father."
Add specifics if a scene calls for it. Sometimes, less is more.
I like it. When can we expect Keaton's story to run?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 17, 2007, 03:49:39 PM
You've set yourself quite a challenge, there, Keaton.
... at least the artwork is worthy. It remains to see if the story is likewise, but I retain hope :-]
Yeah, it'll probably be really difficult. I'm going over the list of things I should
not do when confronting this idea and I'm hoping I don't snag on any one of those. :< Last thing I want to do is transform a good idea into something dreadfully stale and cliche.
By the way, thank you. ;) I'm hoping the story will live up to the picture's quality.
Quote from: Raistnice drawing.
If I may offer my advice, since it happened 400 years ago in continuity, why not simply gloss over the whole matter in the story and say "yeah, he's Keaton's son, she doesn't get along well with his father."
Add specifics if a scene calls for it. Sometimes, less is more.
Thank you. ^^
And I agree with you about that last statement, but I feel like it would be more powerful to present it, or at least confront it
somewhat. I'm not going to show the scene, fortunately, I'm just going to allude to it. Which will hopefully be enough, yet not cross any borders, break any rules, or spit on anyone's awesome creative universe (ie: Amber's). Plus, I don't want to add Tikal in as an afterthought, as though I had hastily slapped his existence up and attached it with scotch tape to Keaton's backstory... I think they did that a lot in comics. "Peter Parker actually had a brother which was separated from birth although there was no proof which insinuated such nor any allusions to it."
What do they call that again?
Quote from: TapewolfI like it. When can we expect Keaton's story to run?
Thank you, I'm glad you do. ^^ As for when the backstory will run... it probably will as soon as I finish the detailed overviews of all seven chapters (and possibly a few intermission chapters as bonuses if this turns out successful), and then complete the first chapter. So far I have 20% of the first chapter finished, and I'm in a little bit of a rut with it, but I think if I get some inspiration I can plow through it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 04:46:03 PM
"Peter Parker actually had a brother which was separated from birth although there was no proof which insinuated such nor any allusions to it."
What do they call that again?
Crappy writing?
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 17, 2007, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 04:46:03 PM
"Peter Parker actually had a brother which was separated from birth although there was no proof which insinuated such nor any allusions to it."
What do they call that again?
Crappy writing?
Yes, but I think she was looking for "retcon", for "RETroactive COrrectioN"
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 17, 2007, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 04:46:03 PM
"Peter Parker actually had a brother which was separated from birth although there was no proof which insinuated such nor any allusions to it."
What do they call that again?
Crappy writing?
Jumping the shark? :D
Oh wait, I'm the one who asked the question.
But yes, Llearch is right, it
is retcon. *just remembered thanks to Cogidubnus* I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. It's really something I'd like to avoid. :<
~Keaton the Black Jackal
:dface
That is all.
I'm kind of curious about his disposition. On one hand he's been brought into the world by two particularly evil creatures. On the other, he seems to have been brought up by someone else entirely.
Perhaps it's just the way he's been drawn, but I must confess he doesn't look especially bright either :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 17, 2007, 06:13:47 PM
I'm kind of curious about his disposition. On one hand he's been brought into the world by two particularly evil creatures. On the other, he seems to have been brought up by someone else entirely.
Perhaps it's just the way he's been drawn, but I must confess he doesn't look especially bright either :P
Actually, Tikal's personality has barely been established, but it is possible that he is ultimately nothing like either one of his biological parents. I've been toying with the concept of making him an Adventurer, which is how he may encounter Keaton.
And heh. XD Really, I wasn't quite sure how to make his expression, so I made it sort of blase. Someone said he looks rather serene, so I decided to incorporate that into his personality.
I'll probably write more about Tikal the next time I draw him. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
Actually, Tikal's personality has barely been established, but it is possible that he is ultimately nothing like either one of his biological parents. I've been toying with the concept of making him an Adventurer, which is how he may encounter Keaton.
.. is it just me who wants to make him into a car salesman, or something equally out of step with the whole "Adventurer vs Cubi" thing?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 17, 2007, 06:32:39 PM
.. is it just me who wants to make him into a car salesman, or something equally out of step with the whole "Adventurer vs Cubi" thing?
You have a good point there.
**EDIT**
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
Actually, Tikal's personality has barely been established, but it is possible that he is ultimately nothing like either one of his biological parents.
That would probably be a good thing. Another question... the markings. I assumed that for Keaton, those were the clan marks/tattoos. But he shouldn't have either...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 17, 2007, 06:32:39 PM
.. is it just me who wants to make him into a car salesman, or something equally out of step with the whole "Adventurer vs Cubi" thing?
Actually, you're very much right there. I need to come up with something more original for him and fast. My first ideas are never pretty. :< You guys should've heard the first ever concept ideas for Keaton's backstory, back when she was a Zafara/Mewtwo/Kangaroo Rat BASTARD CROSSBREED asfefeasa I sucked so much. XD
Either way. I'm going to see if I can come up with anything better, perhaps more original. Cliches make Keaton a very sad, sad jackal.
...aaaaactually, Llearch gave me an awesome idea over MSN. >:3 I think I can roll with that...
Quote from: Tapewolf
That would probably be a good thing. Another question... the markings. I assumed that for Keaton, those were the clan marks/tattoos. But he shouldn't have either...
Actually, the markings aren't Keaton's clan markings. They're inherited from Kytharion, which are a recent addition to his design. His (Kytharion's) appearance is fleshing out more and more as I think about it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 17, 2007, 06:52:33 PM
:< You guys should've heard the first ever concept ideas for Keaton's backstory, back when she was a Zafara/Mewtwo/Kangaroo Rat BASTARD CROSSBREED asfefeasa I sucked so much. XD
Yeah, we've all been there.
Why, I remember one character in my own comic has gone through more revisions than I can recall, having been based off of not one, but
two different people, changing race not once but twice(species race, not skin-color race), having her entire backstory rewritten, getting her hair color shuffled around at least three times, changing personality more than once, and she's now purely fictional, for the third time in her existance.
Probably my most drawn character, yet ironically, nobody on these boards has ever seen her.
So yeah, revisions=good. Mebbe Tikal owns a bakery in town, and his parents never visit, but business is good anyway because of his friendly demeanor.
and Tikal will forever make me think of the pink echidna from Sonic Adventure.
I like the picture
Hey Keaton, I like the new pic. I really dig the tatoos or whatever the markings are. I am not entirely of anything about them, other than that I like them. :)
Also! If you are fishing around for working out a plot for your Keaton story, send me a PM with some details sometime whenever you have a little while to type up a synposis. I love a good story, and if you want help with some ideas I'll gladly throw some suggestions at you. I've been RPing for so long (and been working on a comic of my own) and it's turned my brain into a veritable plot idea factory.
*adjusts glasses* =o-o=
Quote from: Goatmon on September 19, 2007, 07:26:50 AM
Also! If you are fishing around for working out a plot for your Keaton story, send me a PM with some details sometime whenever you have a little while to type up a synposis. I love a good story, and if you want help with some ideas I'll gladly throw some suggestions at you.
Your starting place should be the DMFA Wiki. One of my intentions (i.e. why I spent so much time recording the way the world and races work) was that it could be used as a repository of information for writers, to try and keep things relatively consistent, both with DMFA itself and with other writers.
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Keaton_the_Black_Jackal
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Jyraneth_Clan
We'll have to sort out some kind of portrait for Keaton at some point.
Quote from: Goatmon on September 19, 2007, 07:26:50 AM
Hey Keaton, I like the new pic. I really dig the tatoos or whatever the markings are. I am not entirely of anything about them, other than that I like them. :)
Also! If you are fishing around for working out a plot for your Keaton story, send me a PM with some details sometime whenever you have a little while to type up a synposis. I love a good story, and if you want help with some ideas I'll gladly throw some suggestions at you. I've been RPing for so long (and been working on a comic of my own) and it's turned my brain into a veritable plot idea factory.
*adjusts glasses* =o-o=
Hey, I'm really glad you do! :) The tattoos are probably my favorite part of the picture, too, even though they don't really have any plot significance other than emphasizing Tikal's resemblance to his father.
And oh my god, really? Someone to help me with brainstorming would be a GODSEND! I've been sort of caught in a rut with Keaton's backstory, as pondering out the basic outlines of the chapters has been slightly difficult, so I would appreciate any and all help anyone can give. ^^
By the way, Goatmon...
it will be up soon. Last week was a bit hectic so I couldn't finish it, but it should be ready soon... >:3 *mysterious cackle as she vanishes dramatically behind a smokescreen, coughs violently*
Quote from: Tapewolf
We'll have to sort out some kind of portrait for Keaton at some point.
Heh, I probably need to draw and color one. X3 I never did for some reason... odd.
It would also be awesome to see a portrait of the Jyraneth clan marking, similar to the ones arranged for Cyra and Daryil clan. I'm a little obsessed with consistency there. o_o
Wow. My suggestions are so THINLY VEILED. XD FEAR MY POOR ATTEMPTS AT SUBTLETY!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 19, 2007, 09:23:57 AM
It would also be awesome to see a portrait of the Jyraneth clan marking, similar to the ones arranged for Cyra and Daryil clan. I'm a little obsessed with consistency there. o_o
To be honest you did a better job on the Kamei'Sin marking than I did with the other two. In all honesty they were crude hacks which I'd like to replace someday when I learn how to do SVG artwork.
In the meantime, I can have a look at doing one for you, but I can't seem to find a reference to work from. I have a feeling you may have sent one by PM, I'll have to look.
Oh, and I made a few minor changes to your Wiki entry. Grammar and stuff...
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 19, 2007, 09:47:52 AM
To be honest you did a better job on the Kamei'Sin marking than I did with the other two. In all honesty they were crude hacks which I'd like to replace someday when I learn how to do SVG artwork.
Drifting slightly away from the topic, but which ones do you want to replace? I just started looking at SVG stuff (esp. how to do it in the raw text form instead of using a fancy editor - for another project that will most likely drive itself against a wall soon), so maybe I could do something useful while practicing?
Quote from: Sid on September 19, 2007, 11:16:24 AM
Drifting slightly away from the topic, but which ones do you want to replace? I just started looking at SVG stuff (esp. how to do it in the raw text form instead of using a fancy editor - for another project that will most likely drive itself against a wall soon), so maybe I could do something useful while practicing?
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Image:CyraClanLogo.png
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Image:DaryilClanLogo.png
I'm not sure if putting the raw SVG there is a good idea, since that retarded browser probably can't view them. I have a vague feeling that the wiki engine might autoconvert it to PNG or something, but I'm not sure. Either way, if you do SVG versions I'd like to have the original files for my collection :P
Omigodomigodomigod guys guys guys guys. I have something to show you.
CLICK HERE plzkthnx (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-QueenoftheOrinColoredFinished.jpg?t=1190329336)
Ladies and gentlemen, here she is. Queen Xexilene Sedarev Ishaik'Tar XIII, Imperial Ruler of the Heart Monarchy of Planet Oriaendi, Ruler of Issalyune, and Drop-Dead-Sexy Bitch.
Figured you all needed a reprieve from the flood of Keaton's backstory-related artwork... and besides, I've been working on this fine fine lady for a while. In case you can't tell, she is actually related to Piix by species--the Orin, and she's the primary ruler of the planet. Unrelated to Piix's 100 Themes challenge--this was just done because frankly, I wanted to do something which was very detailed, and secondly, I was on an enormous Orin kick when I did it. Cogidubnus wanted me to color it, so I did. It's about fucking time I finished it.
Xexilene's design is slightly based off of Egyptian attire and the depiction of King Xerxes from the movie 300. Some people have compared her to Mayan design. You can't see it, but all of those beads? Individually shaded. Killed me to get all of them, but damn was it worth it.
What's up next on my agenda? Ink and color Piix's first 100 Themes picture and get Aridas's picture I promised him finished. But for now, enjoy this uber colored picture.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Why don't you upload the full-res pic to show off all the details? Would be nice considering the amount of detail you put into it. :3
It's very nice, I like how you used gradients to shade the jewelry, it gives it a more 3D look.
Now if you'll excuse me- *Is off to make a wallpaper.*
:U
Awesome picture is made of awesome and win. I love the little feet things, as well as the -incredible- colors. Very nice.
That is a remarkable piece of colouring work. Kind of creepy, but very well done.
preeeeeeeeeetyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Why does she look like her wrists are cuffed togeather?
Sounds like you're the only person who can answer that, Raist, since that's an opinion. ;) But they do look cuffed together, I never noticed that before.
I have a slightly more pertinent question, Keaton...
... why does she have two right elbows? :-/
Other than that, her right eye is slightly too far inset to balance her left one.
Despite those two very minor niggles, the work itself is incredible. I see what you mean about the beads, and re-iterate Haz's request for the full thing. Heck, I'll even provide hosting, if photobucket is being objectionable...
I still like the colors!
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 20, 2007, 08:45:38 PM
... why does she have two right elbows? :-/
Methinks that's just the way the cloth is folded around her arm.
Also, PhotoBucket can bear the full-res pic, but only at about 3/4 quality.
Love the colors.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 20, 2007, 08:45:38 PM
I have a slightly more pertinent question, Keaton...
... why does she have two right elbows? :-/
Other than that, her right eye is slightly too far inset to balance her left one.
Despite those two very minor niggles, the work itself is incredible. I see what you mean about the beads, and re-iterate Haz's request for the full thing. Heck, I'll even provide hosting, if photobucket is being objectionable...
Good question and critique, there. Honestly, I had no idea about the elbows, same with the eye.
I'd be happy to give you guys the full thing--but I'm uncertain if Photoshop will allow me to upload a file which is so immense in size. I'll give it a try, but if it's giving me trouble, is it alright if you host it? X3
To Raist, the wrists aren't cuffed together--it's just the positioning of the wrists combined with her bracelets. XD
To everyone, thank you so much for your comments and praise! You guys are all full of win. :)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
She looks very pretty.
Nice design... reminds me of the level of detail from the Dynasty warrior games.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 21, 2007, 12:39:50 PM
I'd be happy to give you guys the full thing--but I'm uncertain if Photoshop will allow me to upload a file which is so immense in size. I'll give it a try, but if it's giving me trouble, is it alright if you host it? X3
Ahem. At 1.28Mb, my DSL link might choke if too many of you try to download this all at once.
It's 1134 by 2713 pixels, in png format.
http://llearch.net/misc/kbj/Scan-QueenoftheOrinColored.png
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 22, 2007, 12:59:01 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 21, 2007, 12:39:50 PM
I'd be happy to give you guys the full thing--but I'm uncertain if Photoshop will allow me to upload a file which is so immense in size. I'll give it a try, but if it's giving me trouble, is it alright if you host it? X3
Ahem. At 1.28Mb, my DSL link might choke if too many of you try to download this all at once.
It's 1134 by 2713 pixels, in png format.
http://llearch.net/misc/kbj/Scan-QueenoftheOrinColored.png
That sounds like a challenge to me.
On 3, everybody!!!
(pretty in big!)
Quote from: Raist on September 22, 2007, 01:33:35 PM
That sounds like a challenge to me.
The result is that the link slows down while I'm asleep.
See if you can guess how much I care. ;-]
*foams at the mouth and bows, lighting her sketchbook on fire* Keaton PWNS. Srsly. i...damn i can't even...><;;;
Quote from: Xze-Xze on September 22, 2007, 08:53:39 PM
*foams at the mouth and bows, lighting her sketchbook on fire* Keaton PWNS. Srsly. i...damn i can't even...><;;;
*salvages Xze's sketchbook and revitalizes it* Nuu! D: There needs to be moar Xze arts!
By the way, to all of you--thank you so much for the comments on the picture. ^^ To Llearch, thank you for putting up the full-resolution picture so everyone can see all the details. >:3 I'm especially proud of the high-res picture, so you're my hero times a bajillion for this.
CLICK HERE
warning: violence (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonandHeadBloody.jpg?t=1190557457)
I wasn't expecting to draw another violent picture, but... eh. What can you do? This is what happens when I feel down. Anyway, this is what Keaton looked like four hundred (or so) years ago, when her clan was massacred and their sanctuary was destroyed.
I'm not going to tell you whose head that is. You'll probably be able to tell if you look back on a recent picture and if you know enough about Keaton's history. It's probably the scene I'm looking forward most to writing in her upcoming backstory.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Ugh. Well-drawn, but nasty. Looks like the answer's in the wiki, although to be honest the muzzle seems a bit too short for that person as portrayed in the family picture.
Keaton, one point - I'm not wholly sure that a 'Cubi in their 60s or 70s would know enough to be able to steal souls. In SAIA at least, a fifty-something 'Cubi seems to be considered a kid. That said, it's likely that the Jyraneth would start teaching such stuff from a much younger age.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2007, 10:52:47 AM
Ugh. Well-drawn, but nasty. Looks like the answer's in the wiki, although to be honest the muzzle seems a bit too short for that person as portrayed in the family picture.
Keaton, one point - I'm not wholly sure that a 'Cubi in their 60s or 70s would know enough to be able to steal souls. In SAIA at least, a fifty-something 'Cubi seems to be considered a kid. That said, it's likely that the Jyraneth would start teaching such stuff from a much younger age.
I have an answer to that: the person I drew was a fennec fox, but I didn't quite have a good grasp of drawing them very well at the time I drew the family picture. I wanted to make him/her look different from a jackal, so I enlarged his/her ears and shortened his/her muzzle. I should probably make updated, individual pictures for all the family members.
And really? I don't recall Keaton ever stealing souls at that age... in fact, the only time I remember her stealing souls is when she was 143, and even then she wasn't quite absorbing the soul--she was caging it in her weapon. Though you are right, the Jyraneth would start teaching such atrocities at a young age. After all, they would want their bloodline to be nice and powerful.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Yikes. Nice.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:02:50 AM
And really? I don't recall Keaton ever stealing souls at that age...
I was referring to the Jyraneth Raiders in particular, since their job role includes 'harvesting souls' according to the wiki. None of the family members who were Raiders at the time of the fall had made 90.
(By the way, I've made another edit to the wiki... might be an idea to review it :P)
**EDIT**
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:02:50 AM
I have an answer to that: the person I drew was a fennec fox, but I didn't quite have a good grasp of drawing them very well at the time I drew the family picture. I wanted to make him/her look different from a jackal, so I enlarged his/her ears and shortened his/her muzzle. I should probably make updated, individual pictures for all the family members.
Ahhh... it zooms in. I can see the ear-piece now. Definitely my second choice.
Is she actually crying or are those markings? (I can imagine a shock like that rendering her incapable of tears)
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2007, 11:20:43 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:02:50 AM
And really? I don't recall Keaton ever stealing souls at that age...
I was referring to the Jyraneth Raiders in particular, since their job role includes 'harvesting souls' according to the wiki. None of the family members who were Raiders at the time of the fall had made 90.
(By the way, I've made another edit to the wiki... might be an idea to review it :P)
Ohhh, now I understand. Hmm... I wonder if only seasoned Jyraneth Raiders are capable of harvesting souls, while the younger newbies are in charge of killing and stealing potential slaves.
(And I shall take a look at the wiki. :3 By the way, thanks for going over Keaton's Wiki page and correcting the grammar errors. You are my hero.)
EDIT: By the way, Noah, Keaton's brother, who was 29 at the time Keaton was 8... probably was 80 or so by the time he died. So he was likely a Jyraneth Raider for a long time, longer than Keaton was, since he had been a Jyraneth Raider since his head-wings grew in.
Also, what part of the Wiki did you edit?
Quote from: Tapewolf**EDIT**
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:02:50 AM
I have an answer to that: the person I drew was a fennec fox, but I didn't quite have a good grasp of drawing them very well at the time I drew the family picture. I wanted to make him/her look different from a jackal, so I enlarged his/her ears and shortened his/her muzzle. I should probably make updated, individual pictures for all the family members.
Ahhh... it zooms in. I can see the ear-piece now. Definitely my second choice.
Is she actually crying or are those markings? (I can imagine a shock like that rendering her incapable of tears)
She is actually crying, something which takes a LOT for Keaton to do today. This is probably some time after the shock has set in. I really can't wait to write that scene.. it's supposed to be really raw in emotion and signifies when the shit hits the fan for the story's initial Fa Teen rating. >:3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:39:47 AM
EDIT: By the way, Noah, Keaton's brother, who was 29 at the time Keaton was 8... probably was 80 or so by the time he died. So he was likely a Jyraneth Raider for a long time, longer than Keaton was, since he had been a Jyraneth Raider since his head-wings grew in.
Also, what part of the Wiki did you edit?
Aw, so he is dead, then?
Anyway, the line:
"This led to the inexplicable exposure of the Jyraneth Clan's haven, Harla'Keth, and the invasion of the Jyraneth Clan's most devoted enemies, the Kamei'Sin Clan.
Was changed to:
"This led to the inexplicable exposure of the Jyraneth Clan's haven, Harla'Keth,
and its subsequent invasion by the Jyraneth Clan's most devoted enemies, the Kamei'Sin Clan."
...let me know if that's wrong and I'll roll it back for you.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2007, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 11:39:47 AM
EDIT: By the way, Noah, Keaton's brother, who was 29 at the time Keaton was 8... probably was 80 or so by the time he died. So he was likely a Jyraneth Raider for a long time, longer than Keaton was, since he had been a Jyraneth Raider since his head-wings grew in.
Also, what part of the Wiki did you edit?
Aw, so he is dead, then?
Anyway, the line:
"This led to the inexplicable exposure of the Jyraneth Clan's haven, Harla'Keth, and the invasion of the Jyraneth Clan's most devoted enemies, the Kamei'Sin Clan.
Was changed to:
"This led to the inexplicable exposure of the Jyraneth Clan's haven, Harla'Keth, and its subsequent invasion by the Jyraneth Clan's most devoted enemies, the Kamei'Sin Clan."
...let me know if that's wrong and I'll roll it back for you.
I can safely say that he's dead, unless I decide to do something with him in the future. The reason I can do this is because his death was off-screen, so I can take advantage of that.
So yeah, Noah's death is ambiguous, as is the fate of Elizabeth. However, Elizabeth is undeniably alive--but I haven't decided where she is and what has occurred after she escaped. Anyway, it is most likely that Noah is dead, because the Kamei'Sin would've considered it prudent to dispose of him as soon as they extracted the information they wanted. After all, to them, a Jyraneth Cubi isn't worth anything.
And oh yeah, I just noticed the changes! Once more, thank you--that makes the sentence a lot less confusing. Thank you so much for your help. :)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*foam* so beautifully bloody...
Ed ec fuhtanvim...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
... After all, to them, a Jyraneth Cubi isn't worth anything.
... more than your average lunch pail...
Back to the image, I like how it's all in B&W, except for the blood - that's a power emotive choice, and has been done a few times - Schindler's List and the red coat, and the end of Ransom come to mind, movie-wise - but has yet to become cliche...
Nicely done, too. Although I -still- think all your chars have my metabolism; skinny despite how much I eat. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 23, 2007, 01:35:11 PM
Back to the image, I like how it's all in B&W, except for the blood
And the eye. Look at Keaton's eye too. It's subtle, but I don't think it's a fluke.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2007, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 23, 2007, 01:35:11 PM
Back to the image, I like how it's all in B&W, except for the blood
And the eye. Look at Keaton's eye too. It's subtle, but I don't think it's a fluke.
Oh, wow. Both eyes, actually - albeit lighter in the dead one, since it's fading. That's so subtle I missed it, although I caught the effect.
Neat.
It so reminds me how the head personal Heir caretaker found the king and queen dead
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 23, 2007, 03:53:30 PM
Oh, wow. Both eyes, actually - albeit lighter in the dead one, since it's fading. That's so subtle I missed it, although I caught the effect.
Dunno about the dead one... it's kind of close to the pencil colour. Besides, s/he'd be long gone by the time she found him/her.
**EDIT**
(So as not to give it away completely )
I almost feel inclined to make a lewd joke about heads here, but I like my internal organs intact. :U
I like the way the blood is done, actually, even if it doesn't look very real - it looks more like paint than blood (I think blood is of a fairly thick consistency or a very thin consistency but rarely anywhere inbetween) - it still works well with the rest of the image. :)
--
I suppose the consistency of the blood depends a lot on who it belongs to, though; my own is a very deep red and quite thick as I last remember seeing it, for example (I apologise if that's a bit too much detail, it is only meant as an example) but it likely varies a lot on lifestyle and diet.
Methinks you need to adjust your monitor's brightness settings - both eyes are shaded brown. This (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/EyeColour_001.jpg) is what I got when I sampled the colour from the eye using the eyedropper (:rolleyes) tool in Photoshop.
Anyway, sad pic. :< I think Keaton needs a hug.
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on September 23, 2007, 04:55:43 PM
Methinks you need to adjust your monitor's brightness settings - both eyes are shaded brown.
Nope. I've just recalibrated it, and the head's eyes still look the same as his nose. It could be interesting to see it on an LCD monitor, since the colour reproduction on those is usually even worse.
QuoteAnyway, sad pic. :< I think Keaton needs a hug.
Definitely a sad picture. Left me kind of broody all day. Expect bitter aspects to my upcoming writings :P
Dunno, then. I'm using an LCD monitor and I can see the difference between his eye and his nose pretty clearly.
Keaton, you'll probably kick me for saying this, but I've just realised your characters have the wrong number of fingers :<
**EDIT**
(Actually, so does Turnsky's rendition of Jakob :P)
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2007, 06:29:55 PM
Keaton, you'll probably kick me for saying this, but I've just realised your characters have the wrong number of fingers :<
**EDIT**
(Actually, so does Turnsky's rendition of Jakob :P)
Actuaaaaaally, I see where you're coming from. When I first drew this picture I started debating about whether or not I should give Keaton four fingers, but I decided to opt for realism. :< I guess I can attribute this to style, but ironically, I find four fingers are much easier to draw than five. XD
Wry, realism? Wryyyyyyy?
To everyone, thank you for your comments. :) I'll hopefully have a new drawing up soon.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
hey Keaton, I think you'd get a kick out of this. Guess what I just got in the mail today! (http://www.landrymanor.com/ragefactor/images/Mai-Tira.jpg)(err... PG-13, 'cause Mai doesn't wear much!)
yeah... I scanned 'em on top of a drawing to kinda show that it's mine, but looks like I could've gotten the same effect by grabbing the official shots and Photoshopping them over the previously-scanned image.
In any case, this brings my collection to Taki(with some of Chun-Li's moves), Nightmare, Mai, and Tira. Now, I need to get Terry Bogard, Nakoruru, and Felicia.
Quote from: Raist on October 02, 2007, 08:35:57 PM
hey Keaton, I think you'd get a kick out of this. Guess what I just got in the mail today! (http://www.landrymanor.com/ragefactor/images/Mai-Tira.jpg)(err... may be NSFW, 'cause Mai doesn't wear much!)
yeah... I scanned 'em on top of a drawing to kinda show that it's mine, but looks like I could've gotten the same effect by grabbing the official shots and Photoshopping them over the previously-scanned image.
In any case, this brings my collection to Taki(with some of Chun-Li's moves), Nightmare, Mai, and Tira. Now, I need to get Terry Bogard, Nakoruru, and Felicia.
Ok. Two questions.
1) What is this card game called
2) Where can I get it
Two answers.
1: It's called UFS, or "Universal Fighting System," and is a cross-genre card game based on fighting video games, the idea of which being something like "What if Street Fighter's Ryu fought Soul Calibur's Nightmare?" It captures the feel and balance fantastically, and is rapidly becoming my replacement to Magic: The Gathering.
2: You can only get UFS at game and hobby shops. Sabertooth Games have explicitly stated that Wall-Mart and similar places aren't going to be getting it, so it's not something you'd find around target. Where I live, Heroes and Dragons is the place to go for UFS cards, as Castle Games and Gifts, my more favored game shop only has a couple of first-edition boxes, of which they've sold exactly one booster pack. To me. I should probably check if Gamer's Haven carries it.
details here (http://www.sabertoothgames.com/ufs/ufs.asp). They had a promotional freebie deal(where I got Mai and Tira from) recently, but I don't think it's still going on.
Quote from: Raist on October 02, 2007, 08:35:57 PM
hey Keaton, I think you'd get a kick out of this. Guess what I just got in the mail today! (http://www.landrymanor.com/ragefactor/images/Mai-Tira.jpg)(err... PG-13, 'cause Mai doesn't wear much!)
yeah... I scanned 'em on top of a drawing to kinda show that it's mine, but looks like I could've gotten the same effect by grabbing the official shots and Photoshopping them over the previously-scanned image.
In any case, this brings my collection to Taki(with some of Chun-Li's moves), Nightmare, Mai, and Tira. Now, I need to get Terry Bogard, Nakoruru, and Felicia.
You were indeed right with your assumption, good sir. I got an ENORMOUS kick out of this. >:3 Thank you very much for showing me! On a related note, I saw a whole series of Soul Calibur trading card scans at a website I always check out. I've saved all of the ones which have Tira in 'em.
Because my obsessions know no bounds :<
~Keaton the Black Jackal
you know technically it's not violence after death...it's more gore if anything.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 03, 2007, 03:14:10 PM
you know technically it's not violence after death...it's more gore if anything.
I wasn't quite sure, though now that you mention it I think you're right. I normally attribute gore to intestines and torn skin and all kinds of gross shiz showing which pokes at the stomach... though what you say makes more sense.
Next... NEW PICTURE, YO!
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonBaby.jpg?t=1191438865)
Bah. I can't kick the character anorexia, even in my babies. :< Well, I mean, she still looks a bit chubby in the arm and all, but I didn't get the belly chub down. I'll have to redraw this in the future... but for now, here's my first attempt at baby Keaton, here to save the day from all the depressing shit I've been forcefeeding you all with. XD
And yes, that is an Incibear she's holding.
And yes, I do need to leave the country now in order to escape Keaton's wrath. See you all in Helsinki.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
How old is Keaton supposed to be in the pic? Like a new-born baby, or 3+ years old?
That is pretty cute. Shame she grew up to be a monster >:3
And I am glad it's just an Incy-bear she's playing with... for a horrible moment I was afraid - given the Jyraneth - that it would be a skull or something.
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on October 03, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
How old is Keaton supposed to be in the pic? Like a new-born baby, or 3+ years old?
I'm just going to say a few months old, maybe a year. Probably as old as Abel was in the first three strips of Abel's Story. Though I'm not good at drawing bebes, so Keaton looks older than that :<
Quote from: TapewolfAnd I am glad it's just an Incy-bear she's playing with... for a horrible moment I was afraid - given the Jyraneth - that it would be a skull or something.
You're giving me ideas, Tape... eeevil ideas. >:3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 03, 2007, 03:40:30 PM
That is pretty cute. Shame she grew up to be a monster >:3
Quoted for truth.
Nice one Keaton I like it and the incy-bear looks cool aswell :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 03, 2007, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on October 03, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
How old is Keaton supposed to be in the pic? Like a new-born baby, or 3+ years old?
I'm just going to say a few months old, maybe a year. Probably as old as Abel was in the first three strips of Abel's Story. Though I'm not good at drawing bebes, so Keaton looks older than that :<
Indeed she does. Though not enough chubby-ness around the belly, as you said, is the only problem, I think. :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 03, 2007, 03:43:12 PM
You're giving me ideas, Tape... eeevil ideas. >:3
You're welcome to keep that one :P
Oh, and
talking of incy-bear (http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/incybear.mp3)...
So much cute... :U
Bebe Keaton is much cuter than decapitation.
A lot of things are cuter than decapitation. :U
She looks about 3 or 4, or so.
From experience, babies don't usually sit up without support until they're, oh, about 18 months to 2 years old. Shortly after that, they start toddling about and getting into knife drawers to make themselves a slice of bread (still attached to the end of the loaf, and using a large carving knife, so about the equivalent size of the knife that guy had in the youtube link RJ posted - ie, about the length of said small child's body... Child didn't get far in spreading the butter with that before we caught him...)
*cough* We kept a closer eye on him after that, as he obviously could move further and faster than we thought. ;-]
I'd say you got the arm perfect, Keaton. And the belly fat is, well, not just belly - it's the whole body is a bit chubby. Bear in mind, they've been swimming for 9 months without having to do more than a stroke at a time. It'll take a while for muscle to build up.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 03, 2007, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 03, 2007, 03:43:12 PM
You're giving me ideas, Tape... eeevil ideas. >:3
You're welcome to keep that one :P
Oh, and talking of incy-bear (http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/incybear.mp3)...
Wow, that 3-d stereo sound works really good... ;-]
If where all showing off the babyness...
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/Huskie%20stuff/Baby_Z.jpg)
If this dont melt hearts...THen what will
Quote from: Zedd on October 03, 2007, 06:04:15 PM
If where all showing off the babyness...
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/Huskie%20stuff/Baby_Z.jpg)
If this dont melt hearts...THen what will
Guess I should show one of my baby pics, as well....
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/babybird2.jpg)
....what?
Goatmon, your baby picture made me laugh so freakin' hard. XD
But moving on.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-TikalandElysiumShrunken.jpg?t=1192051144)
Thought I wasn't gonna draw him again, didja? >:3 Well no. Tikal hasn't dropped off the map at all. He's still becoming one of my favorites as his personality and character develops.
Come to think of it, a lot of his character is due to the amalgamated suggestions of my friends. Cogidubnus helped me with the backstory, Mel Dragonkitty with the outfit design, Stygian with what gun Tikal should use...
And Llearch came up with the idea of Tikal being a priest, which completely brought the character to life. >:3
This here picture is just a picture of Tikal brandishing his .500 and looking really stoic about it. Normally he's a bit happier, but he must've been caught in a bad mood. Then again, any day he's forced to draw his gun out (he only does so in self-defense) is a bad one for him, considering his almost saintly (no pun intended) amount of patience.
The gun is called Elysium, because while fighting Tikal sings some verses from various Beethoven songs to himself, a particularly dominant line reading "Freude, schöner Götterfunken; Tochter aus Elysium," which means, "Joy, beautiful spark of the Gods; daughter of Elysium." That's my favorite line of the Ninth Symphony. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 10, 2007, 05:35:28 PM
Thought I wasn't gonna draw him again, didja? >:3 Well no. Tikal hasn't dropped off the map at all. He's still becoming one of my favorites as his personality and character develops.
Well, I think he's a new one on me. What does he feature in?
QuoteThe gun is called Elysium, because while fighting Tikal sings some verses from various Beethoven songs to himself, a particularly dominant line reading "Freude, schöner Götterfunken; Tochter aus Elysium," which means, "Joy, beautiful spark of the Gods; daughter of Elysium." That's my favorite line of the Ninth Symphony. XD
I'd go with that...
[Being an uncultured sod, puts on W. Carlos' striking electronic version as used in the soundtrack to 'A Clockwork Orange']
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 10, 2007, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 10, 2007, 05:35:28 PM
Thought I wasn't gonna draw him again, didja? >:3 Well no. Tikal hasn't dropped off the map at all. He's still becoming one of my favorites as his personality and character develops.
Well, I think he's a new one on me. What does he feature in?
Tikal is Keaton's illegitimate son, specifically. I can't remember if I gave him a name at that time... but now he's going by the name of Tikal St. Kennedy, which is actually a nod to Leon Kennedy from the Resident Evil games.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Very nice, Keats. I think you got the stoic thing down very nicely.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 10, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
Tikal is Keaton's illegitimate son, specifically.
Oops. The words "you thought I'd never draw him again" made me assume it was something from years back...
But yeah, very nicely done. Although I might now have to ask questions about what kind of priest he is.
He looks nothing like me! D: (jk)
What a znazy look for him...Threds and gun and all...He does make me wonder..
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 10, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
But yeah, very nicely done. Although I might now have to ask questions about what kind of priest he is.
Look up a so-so kinda cheesy SF film from a few years back, called
Equilibrium. Tikal might not share their philosophy, but IMHO he'd look convincing as a Grammaton Cleric.
Although none of the ones in the film had pretty wings like Tikal's... ;)
Equilibrium was freakin' awesome. :c
His right thumb looks broken(grab your thumb and push it about two inches past the back of your hand, and that's what it looks like. Granted, he's an incubus, but still...), and the way his fingers are on his left hand, he's currently squeezing the trigger.
Other than that, I just had a fanart idea pop into my head. What a shame I still need to animate a school project and put together a presentation due tomorrow.
Rockin', though after Wolfwood, all gunslinging priests will forever seem like knockoffs.
Quote from: Gareeku on October 10, 2007, 07:21:44 PM
Equilibrium was freakin' awesome. :c
True, that. Pity about the dodgy plot, but yes, the action was excellent. Tetragrammaton Cleric, indeed.
I like Tikal. He looks really cool. The only little quible I have is that the way he's holding the gun is slightly awkward. Either the gun pointing up, his arm more outstreatched or more folded back would look better. For some reason, halfway just looks...wierd.
But it's still awsome :)
Also, he's left-handed? :P
Maybe he's just not terribly good at using it?
Quote from: Raist on October 10, 2007, 11:33:56 PM
His right thumb looks broken
His
right thumb? Look at his left thumb! D: I've never seen anyone hold a gun like that, and after having tried it myself, I've found that it's very uncomfortable (considering I had to force my thumb into that position using my other hand.)
Quote from: xHaZxMaTxHis right thumb? Look at his left thumb! D: I've never seen anyone hold a gun like that, and after having tried it myself, I've found that it's very uncomfortable (considering I had to force my thumb into that position using my other hand.)
Uh, it should be obvious by now that I suck at drawing hands, especially when they're holding stuff. :P And I've only drawn someone holding a gun once, and have never held an actual one, so there are errors abound when it comes to the hands.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCornaMaybe he's just not terribly good at using it?
In actuality Tikal's pretty good at using his .500. Again, the posture he's holding his gun in is just attributed to my inexperience.
Quote from: techmaster-glitchAlso, he's left-handed?
Actuaaaaally... I haven't decided which hand he actually uses the gun in, since he's not ambidextrous like Keaton (Keaton is only ambidextrous because I can never be consistent with which arm she swings her mace with), so I just chose a hand for him to hold the gun in. I'll just say he's right-handed. XD
Quote from: TapewolfBut yeah, very nicely done. Although I might now have to ask questions about what kind of priest he is.
You'd be surprised. However, I'm not giving anything away, since he's going to appear in his own Intermission Chapter in Keaton's backstory, the outline of which is almost finished. :3
Quote from: RaistOther than that, I just had a fanart idea pop into my head. What a shame I still need to animate a school project and put together a presentation due tomorrow.
Rockin', though after Wolfwood, all gunslinging priests will forever seem like knockoffs.
OMG FANART? That would be the greatest thing ever. Cursed school and its interference in artses D:
As for the Wolfwood remark... I couldn't help but snicker, mostly because Tikal's choice of weapon was based off of a gun-slinging priest named Abel Nightroad, from the anime Trinity Blood (one of the few animes I actually watch nowadays). Abel Nightroad is the SMEX.
To everyone in general, thanks for the comments! ^^ *bows* Hopefully I'll get some more art up soon... like Piix's first image for 100 Themes.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on October 11, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
His right thumb? Look at his left thumb! D: I've never seen anyone hold a gun like that, and after having tried it myself, I've found that it's very uncomfortable (considering I had to force my thumb into that position using my other hand.)
That's just because he's obviously got a deathgrip on the gun.
@ Keaton:
Hands are hard. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
If you want fanart, then i shall have to squeak some in during my free time. :grin
Quote from: Raist on October 11, 2007, 02:40:17 PM
Hands are hard. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Hey Keats, hands are easy! :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 11, 2007, 02:37:26 PM
a gun-slinging priest named Abel Nightroad, from the anime Trinity Blood (one of the few animes I actually watch nowadays). Abel Nightroad is the SMEX.
I haven't seen him use a gun in the manga - wield one as a threat, yes, but never actually use it. If you want gunslinging priest, I think Tres fits the description. "Gunslinger" indeed. :b
And yes, Nightroad is love~
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on October 11, 2007, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Raist on October 11, 2007, 02:40:17 PM
Hands are hard. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Hey Keats, hands are easy! :3
STFU Haz. >:O
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Hennya.jpg?t=1192297968)
One of my primary goals was to draw a picture of an Abel's Story or DMFA character and make them look individual in my own style, while still remaining true to their origins. Hennya, specifically, I wanted to make look more serpentine, and her head-snakes look more like actual snakes. Since I didn't have any reference at the time they didn't look as realistic as I wanted, but hey... Hennya turned out pretty damn good.
I don't know what she's doing in the pose. She's either breakdancing... or trying to show off.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Okays all I have to say...Thats a real nice vergion you drew of her Keets...Now I wont have to sic the landsharks!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 13, 2007, 01:57:59 PM
One of my primary goals was to draw a picture of an Abel's Story or DMFA character and make them look individual in my own style, while still remaining true to their origins.
For some horrible reason I thought you were going to draw her in pieces :U
QuoteHennya, specifically, I wanted to make look more serpentine, and her head-snakes look more like actual snakes. Since I didn't have any reference at the time they didn't look as realistic as I wanted, but hey... Hennya turned out pretty damn good.
You've certainly succeeded in making her look more snakelike... that was the first thing I noticed about the picture.
Her hair looks...spikey. But it's still a cool pic. It does look like she's breakdancing, lol.
Yes, you certainly succeeded in putting her in your style. Great work!
Yeah... Tikal's fingers do look a bit strange. But I love the wing designs! :3
It is definitely cool seeing Henya in that style. With a few small tweaks to the pose (e.g. maybe twist the right arm a bit so that the hand is facing forward), I think it could look more like pouncing than "break dancing" or whatever.
EEEE!!! that is pure WIN!! *huggles teh Hennya* <333333
Nah, I don't have any new art yet. But I decided to throw up something which is a little old, but that I'm still very proud of which I've never showcased on my gallery here.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/DietrichaSpots.jpg?t=1193094935)
Those who check out my DeviantArt account regularly may or may not remember this picture back from August, which I doodled for a website I RP at. Dietricha is my Houndoom character for a Pokemon Pack-based RP revolving around portraying hound-type Pokemon as actual wolves organized in a realistic pack settlement. Her design is very much based off of my own dog, Snickers, who is a dappled Dachshund and rather eccentric-looking--yes, heterochromia and all. If this were a full-bodied picture I could probably show off her mismatched bone cuffs...
Oh yeah. I know she looks like Abel. That was unintentional. :< I only realized this after I had finished coloring her, but... blargh. With the heterochromia and the spot arrangements she looks uncannily like him. God dammit. D:
By the way, in case you're wondering about the new poll...
I decided to restart the poll, only with two new options. It's once again based off of 100 Themes, but this time I want to know which one of my original characters you guys want me to use, instead of choosing between Piix and Soul Calibur III's Tira. As for why, well... I feel really unhappy doing this, since it shows lack of commitment or something equally dreadful, or mirrors a big pet peeve of mine, but the reason I want to run by this poll is because lately, most of my art has all been focused on Keaton, yet I don't want to change the subject of my 100 Themes project without asking you guys on your opinion first. I feel that would be a bit rude. Meanwhile my inspiration for Piix has been a bit lacking, which I suspect is due to the insane amount of effort put into the Queen of the Orin picture.
If you guys still want for me to go with Piix, just vote. If you want me to go for Keaton, likewise. Just expect more emoness with Keaton. :P
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Question: does 'Keaton' mean just Keaton, or does it also include other characters from that series as well?
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 22, 2007, 07:27:45 PM
Question: does 'Keaton' mean just Keaton, or does it also include other characters from that series as well?
Other characters from the series as well. I should've probably been a bit more clear there. I'll edit in just a moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm all up for emo-ness.
... heck, anything with the Loch Ness in it works for me. ;-]
Its a lovely colors though
I've seen the pic of Dietricha, before, but I never noticed the eyes. :O 'Tis made of awesome and win!
As for the poll, I refuse to have anything to do with emo Keaton! :<
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 22, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
I'm all up for emo-ness.
... heck, anything with the Loch Ness in it works for me. ;-]
Hardy har
har, Llearch, now you made me want to draw that. XD
By the way folks, the poll's ending on Saturday. And if there's a tie, um...
I duno. :B Just try not to let it be a tie, because then I'll have to do unnecessary thinking.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 23, 2007, 10:51:39 AM
Hardy har har, Llearch, now you made me want to draw that. XD
"oops" ? ;-]
Love the new pic, it's very cute. The head's a tad over sized, though.
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/KeatsPoll_002.gif)
You all suck. :<
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 07, 2007, 04:53:05 PM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/KeatsPoll.gif)
You all suck. :<
Haha, make fun of the outsider! :3
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 07, 2007, 04:53:05 PM
You all suck. :<
:mwaha
On a related note, the lineart for the first picture in the 100 Themes series is finished. I'm currently working on the inking; the colored results will be posted once completed. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD IT'S
FINISHED.100 Themes #1: Introduction (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes1-IntroductionColored.jpg?t=1195849817)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: Approximately 3 Hours
- Inking: Approximately 2 to 3 Days
- Coloring: Unknown
Listening To: Eat Me, Drink Me, by Marilyn Manson
I have been SLAVING over this baby for god knows how long, at first intermittently, but I decided to get it out of the way so that way I can get to work on my contribution to the Secret Santa '07 project. Now that it's finished, I guess I can begin that, and then I'll continue with the 100 Themes work. Work has never felt so good! :boogie
I am so fucking happy with this. :< People may or may not have noticed that I'm trying something a little new with the highlighting--it looks cleaner than in other pictures I've colored. I took a bit of a page from Miss Amber Williams's book in terms of hair highlighting. Otherwise, the shading is relatively the same. Surprisingly, the inking was rather easy--it was the coloring which was the worst task. Friends of mine have heard me bitching nonstop about how difficult it was.
Alas. HERE YOU ALL GO. <3 Feel the love!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
ho.ly.shit. that is simply Godly.
99 to go. :B
Good work.
Something strikes me a little odd about the way the wings are joining to the body. Other than that, Hell, yeah!
It's about damn time! >:O
*Stands by his vote for Piix.* :paranoid
'S very nice. Clean, sharp shading and all that jazz. Mouth looks a bit weird, and the clothes are... eh, but they don't need fixing. :razz
*Feels the love.* :B
That is beautiful, Keaton. There are no other words...
*summarily has his socks rocked off by awesome Keaton arts*
It's amazing, Keats. Very nicely done - and those +20 boots of stompin' look really intimidating. :3
Indeed. Some serious boots, there. Woot.
Those are the kind of boots you just don't see anymore.
Mhhhhh... pictures like this one make me fully realize just how much your drawing and especially inking/coloring has matured over the years. Very nice, keep it up!
More on-topic, I really like the fur marking, especially on the tail. And the shading of the clothes and the folds of the wings are quite well done, too! :)
its truly an impressive picture, the sleves and other clothing are quite remarkable.... but i have a strong compulsion to buy her a hot meal and hand her a blanket
That little girl that stumbled into my forums all those years ago is all grown up now *sniff* I'm so proud....
Quote from: Netrogo on November 23, 2007, 07:59:20 PM
That little girl that stumbled into my forums all those years ago is all grown up now *sniff* I'm so proud....
-Your- forums? ;-]
Yeah MY forums. I knew her years before she came here :P
Quote from: Netrogo on November 23, 2007, 07:59:20 PM
That little girl that stumbled into my forums all those years ago is all grown up now *sniff* I'm so proud....
Growing up right before our eyes... *tear*
Quote from: Brunhidden on November 23, 2007, 07:48:03 PM
i have a strong compulsion to buy her a hot meal and hand her a blanket
Well, there is the slight problem that she's a demon and she'll kill you, but apart from that...
She's a cubi. She's hiding her headwings. But yes, she'd probably kill you.
As I said to you in IM, awesome work Keaton.
ive had a tiny succubus try to eat my face for almost three years now, i would assume im durable enough to withstand it.... i just wish she would stop flying up to sleep on my head
Damn thats awesome Keats! colouring looks great and I love her markings those must have been a killer.
*is hypnotized by the pic*
oh..my...heavens! You look absolutely sexy!
...and personally, I'd give my soul to her.
(I'm Sorry, but that pic deserves a 9.999 out of 10 score.)
Lovely sis..Just lovely
Quote from: Gareeku on November 23, 2007, 08:46:35 PM
She's a cubi. She's hiding her headwings. But yes, she'd probably kill you.
Heh. Well, I was actually quoting from strip 297, but on reflection you bring up an interesting point - why hasn't she hidden the backwings as well? That it's the first one and that her left eye is OK makes me wonder whether it's actually
before she got her headwings - and thus before she could hide the other set.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 24, 2007, 05:13:19 AM...and that her left eye is OK makes me wonder whether it's actually before she got her headwings...
Her left eye looks significantly different to me; lighter shade of brown, for one, and the pupil looks a bit different (though that may or may not have been intentional).
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 24, 2007, 05:13:19 AM
Quote from: Gareeku on November 23, 2007, 08:46:35 PM
She's a cubi. She's hiding her headwings. But yes, she'd probably kill you.
Heh. Well, I was actually quoting from strip 297, but on reflection you bring up an interesting point - why hasn't she hidden the backwings as well? That it's the first one and that her left eye is OK makes me wonder whether it's actually before she got her headwings - and thus before she could hide the other set.
Actually, the only reason I drew Keaton with her back-wings out was because I had never drawn them before. XD I simply forgot to draw in her head-wings. I'll assume she's hiding them for some reason.
To everyone, thank you so much for your comments! *distributes :hug 's* You really know how to make a girl happy. I hope the rest of the 100 Theme pictures are as successful!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Would you say this is a spectacular work of art, Mr. Wink?
Yes I would, Mr. Fibb.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/winkfibb.jpg)
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 23, 2007, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on November 23, 2007, 07:48:03 PM
i have a strong compulsion to buy her a hot meal and hand her a blanket
Well, there is the slight problem that she's a demon and she'll kill you, but apart from that...
Just keep Hazzy around. Make sure he's between you and her, and it'll be like Von Pinn and Andre.
Quote from: Goatmon on November 24, 2007, 07:25:53 AM
Would you say this is a spectacular work of art, Mr. Wink?
Yes I would, Mr. Fibb.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/winkfibb.jpg)
Goatmon, you win so many awesome points for that reference. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on November 24, 2007, 06:19:15 AM
Actually, the only reason I drew Keaton with her back-wings out was because I had never drawn them before. XD
LIES! :dface *Points to 'In the Heart of Calamity (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg146668.html#msg146668)'.* Add to that, you told me, yourself, that you
have drawn other pics of her with her wings out when I asked if you had. :razz
Quote from: je.saist on November 24, 2007, 09:22:37 AM
Just keep Hazzy around. Make sure he's between you and her, and it'll be like Von Pinn and Andre.
Why are you so mean to me? :<
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 24, 2007, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on November 24, 2007, 06:19:15 AM
Actually, the only reason I drew Keaton with her back-wings out was because I had never drawn them before. XD
LIES! :dface *Points to 'In the Heart of Calamity (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg146668.html#msg146668)'.* Add to that, you told me, yourself, that you have drawn other pics of her with her wings out when I asked if you had. :razz
Oh, dang, you're right, there. XD I totally forgot. In my defense, though, I had never colored those wings before.
Big wings are a bitch to color.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on November 25, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 24, 2007, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on November 24, 2007, 06:19:15 AM
Actually, the only reason I drew Keaton with her back-wings out was because I had never drawn them before. XD
LIES! :dface *Points to 'In the Heart of Calamity (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2022.msg146668.html#msg146668)'.* Add to that, you told me, yourself, that you have drawn other pics of her with her wings out when I asked if you had. :razz
Oh, dang, you're right, there. XD I totally forgot. In my defense, though, I had never colored those wings before.
Big wings are a bitch to color.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
The question is... is this proof that being an artist MAKES one Ditzy...
or is it proof that one who is Ditzy BECOMES an artist...
Quote from: je.saist on November 25, 2007, 06:03:34 PMThe question is... is this proof that being an artist MAKES one Ditzy...
or is it proof that one who is Ditzy BECOMES an artist...
Why good sir, I am quite offended by the implication that you have classified me as something as mundane as "ditzy"! D: I am by no means that term--in fact, the more appropriate definition would be "imbecilic." But even that phrase is debatable, since I am just naturally a forgetful person, which can often be a source of frustration and agitation to myself and others... *continues on this tangent for five hours*
Okay, in all seriousness now... poking fun at myself, I'm putting my money towards that last option. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'd say neither, considering not all ditzy people are artists nor are all artists ditzy. :razz
(would say something, but has been struck dumb by the sheer awesomeness of the art)
:eek ......
The shading... the detail... the thin line between envy and worship...
Wow.
What Eowyn types-oohhh,,,, lllloooookkt.....yyyeeeaah
What Eowyn says- lookit, wow. two nine, yeah
What Eowyn means- I wanna outfit like that.
That is indeed one seriously impressive work of art there.
Wow. The last 100 Themes picture was
really well-received! I am extremely overjoyed. :boogie It made me all the more enthusiastic about getting this one out.
100 Themes #4: Dark (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes4-DarkColoredSized.jpg?t=1196536137)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: 1 day (because I was lazy)
- Inking: 3 hours
- Coloring: 1 day
Listening To: "Libertango," by Bond
Yah, I decided to skip the two prior to it and do #4, since I had the idea for it all ready. I'm not sure if it came out the way I wanted it to, but
damn am I happy with it. I hope this one is well-received! *crosses fingers for luck*
This was also a bit of an experiment. That is, in backgrounds, multiple light sources, shading, highlights, and omgwtf LIGHTNING. I love that fucking lightning. Ahhhh. <3
Cheers, folks.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Woah. Is that Keaton gone grey? That's pretty creepy. Good work.
That seems familiar. >:3
Looks awesome Keaton. :)
*spazz* i wish i had your skillz ;3;
That hand-glowiness is fucking awesome! :O How did you do that?! :eager
It looks like you have some sharp images in the shading from using the polygon lasso (most noticeable on her left hip, right elbow, and left knee). Going over those edges with the blur tool should probably fix that.
(I'm not hugging that. :<)
*hugs it*
mmmm..pain...>3
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on December 01, 2007, 03:45:53 PM
(I'm not hugging that. :<)
Oh, go on. I'm trying to think of which themes it would be:
88 - Pain
76 - Broken Pieces
57 - Sacrifice
43 - Dying
....actually there's quite a lot it would qualify for.
The abs look a bit odd, especially on what seems to be a feminine body. Overall though, fantastic shading work, and grate background.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 01, 2007, 04:02:05 PM
Oh, go on. I'm trying to think of which themes it would be:
76 - Broken Pieces
I
want to hug it, but I don't want to be broken. :cry
*hugs the Dark Keaton* :3
Simply amazing, Keats. The hand is, again, fantastic-looking. Really, really nicely done.
....... *total awe*
I cannot think of anything to say that would do this dark jackal justice....
... does this mean that if you put this on Keaton's arm... it'd be a Dark Mark? ;-]
Smmmmokin with all the nice grey there :spidey
I know what I want for Christmas.
*wolf whistle*
Scary, yet amazing. You really know how to really bring out the A-game on art, Keaton!
*two thumbs up*
... Should we be running or are we already as good as dead?
Er, anyways, the only thing i don't like about it is the abs. They kind of remind me of a giant 2x2 lego block... Perhaps removing the darker shadows just below the light spots would help? Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me of course.
Keep up the arts Keaton! :bow
I currently feel like crap, but that has nothing to do with any emotional bullshit. No, you can attribute the crappiness to the fact I have a dreadful cold and have to blow my nose every five seconds because I'm practically drowning in my own
nose-mucus.Quite a Christmas gift from God. :B
But honestly, I had a great Christmas. Family, friends, mad lootz, and happiness. Great stuff, good times. Oh yeah, and I got Schindler's List for the DVD and I
must watch it. D: I desperately wanted that movie.
Oh yeah, and I got my Secret Santa contribution le finished.
CLICK HERE FOR SECRET SANTA-NESS (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-FixxationColoringSized.jpg?t=1198694768)
Currently Listening To: "Balrog Boogie," by the Diablo Swing Orchestra
Time Taken:
- Drawing: Approximately 3 to 4 days (cos I was lazy :B)
- Inking: 2 Days
- Coloring: Unknown
I know it's not festive, but I wanted to do something a little generic for some reason. I didn't know if Fixxation actually celebrated Christmas and had entered the Secret Santa for the gift exchange, so I decided to draw this without a particular holiday as the the theme. I'll do something more Christmas-y next year. I know, sucky reasoning, but I'm very happy with this picture, and I hope Fixxation will be as well.
The denim texture was accomplished using a tutorial. Fucking jeans gave me a lot of crap, especially during the shading process, but I was very happy with the results. Bleached effect was achieved with the dodge tool set on a wonky brush.
Expect more art, because I'm planning on getting some giftart for random friends o' mine finished during a New Year's Eve Party
my mother threatened me at gunpoint to attend that I'm going to go to. Hopefully I can get them all up in an uber-update for 2008.
Hope you all had a great Christmas, everyone.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Oooh, neat denim texture! :. I tried using textures like that, once, but with horrible, blasphemous results. :cry But that looks awesome; kudos. :3
Why can't I do mine that good :U
*attempts to steal Keaton's drawing talents for his own*
In all seriousness Fixx was lucky to get you as their SS, anyone would give their left arm for a drawing that good.
Those jeeeeeeans! :U
Amazing, Keats. You can tell that you really put a lot of effort into it. Very nicely done!
That's a superb picture. I'm going to have to find another version of that character to compare against, because I'm curious now.
On the flipside, they look a little masculine. That might just be the way it is for that character, as I say, I'll have to look for another rendition.
Secondly, the denim effect is indeed splendid, but IMHO it's at the wrong scale, or level of detail. The lines in it look a bit too large unless she is actually full-size (i.e. about 12 inches high) which might be the case, I don't know.
Secondly, I think it clashes slightly with her fur because the sheer amount of detail in the trouser fabric makes the fur look odd - I think my eyes are expecting to see the individual hairs or something.
Anyway, nitpicking aside, it is very nice, and as Netrogo says, Fixx was dead lucky to get a Secret Santa from you and I hope they feel properly grateful :P
That is indeed very impressive.
Do you have a link to the tutorial for the denim texture?
Quote from: LionHeart on December 27, 2007, 06:41:29 AM
That is indeed very impressive.
Do you have a link to the tutorial for the denim texture?
Thank you very much! As for the tutorial, to answer your question, yes...
LINK (http://9tutorials.com/2007/11/06/realistic-denim-jean-texture-from-scratch.html)
I do.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 26, 2007, 04:58:26 PM
That's a superb picture. I'm going to have to find another version of that character to compare against, because I'm curious now.
On the flipside, they look a little masculine. That might just be the way it is for that character, as I say, I'll have to look for another rendition.
Secondly, the denim effect is indeed splendid, but IMHO it's at the wrong scale, or level of detail. The lines in it look a bit too large unless she is actually full-size (i.e. about 12 inches high) which might be the case, I don't know.
Secondly, I think it clashes slightly with her fur because the sheer amount of detail in the trouser fabric makes the fur look odd - I think my eyes are expecting to see the individual hairs or something.
Anyway, nitpicking aside, it is very nice, and as Netrogo says, Fixx was dead lucky to get a Secret Santa from you and I hope they feel properly grateful :P
Good critique, and much appreciated. The masculinity was sort of intentional... well, kind of. I was taking the build implied in the reference sheet a bit too literally. :B I was honestly really worried that it would look a bit bad after, but it turned out okay. Towards the denim detail, I again see what you mean, though to be honest I've tried an individual fur tutorial before (it was something fancy with the motion blur tool) and I couldn't for the life of me get it right. XD I'll need to try it again.
Thanks for the comments, everyone. :) I'll try to get more pictures up soon. Besides the giftart, perhaps something for Eternal Rains.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
03o Keaton..you rawk.
Thank you so much for your kind comments, everyone. :tighthug You guys are fantastic.
I know I promised a major art jam, but it's not quite ready yet. Instead I decided to post up this picture to keep my gallery afloat until I've gotten the final few pictures finished. I'm extremely happy with the results.
As I looked back, I wasn't at all happy with Jyraneth's older design. She looked too ordinary for a certified delusional psychopath. She needed tweaking to make her more menacing, more corrupted by that encroaching dark presence she's sacrificed her sanity for.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-JyranethNewClothed.jpg?t=1200422542)
I think this new design suits her more. :3
This picture is going to be colored in the future so that way I include more of Jyraneth's design, possibly with improved lineart (which includes the markings on the backs of her wings, which resemble the patterns on gypsy moths' wings). The tear-shaped markings around her eyes are sort of a tribute to the Marilyn Manson song which inspired the major revamps to Jyraneth's history and personality - it's sort of a subtle tribute, but hey. Normally Jyraneth doesn't wear an outfit like this, preferring more gothic lolita-style stuff with lace and fishnets and layers of black, but since I was so happy with her anatomy in this picture I decided to give her something more form-fitting. This is how her physique should be - unnaturally compact and sinewy, very strong and commanding.
Oh yeah, and her pose was stolen from a picture of Batman... kind of. There are some changes, but I feel I should give credit where credit is due.
I could go more into Jyraneth's backstory, but that's going to be detailed in a 100 Themes picture I have planned... :3 For now, just check out the Jyraneth Clan Wiku-Wiki article.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I still think it looks awesome, Keats. She looks fully capable of clawing someone's eyes out and beating them over the head with them.
And the eyes are win. :3
It's very well drawn. I can easily see a dark messenger of the gods looking like that.
However, somehow I just can't reconcile it with the idea of a Jyraneth just a few steps away from breakdown. She looks bleeding dangerous, but IMHO it's taken the edge off her in a sheer-out-of-her-gourd kind of way.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on January 15, 2008, 04:46:01 PM
I still think it looks awesome, Keats. She looks fully capable of clawing someone's eyes out and beating them over the head with them.
And the eyes are win. :3
Thank you, Cog! :hug I'm really glad she looks dangerous. >:3 I'm normally not used to drawing dangerous things, believe it or not. oo;
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 05:02:08 PM
It's very well drawn. I can easily see a dark messenger of the gods looking like that.
However, somehow I just can't reconcile it with the idea of a Jyraneth just a few steps away from breakdown. She looks bleeding dangerous, but IMHO it's taken the edge off her in a sheer-out-of-her-gourd kind of way.
Thank you very much! ^^ And honestly, I figured someone would say that, so I think I should specify: this is how Jyraneth will look in the second chapter of Keaton's backstory, where she is tentatively slated to make an appearance. This takes place before Jyraneth Clan is mostly-destroyed, so Jyraneth looks relatively stable in this picture.
I'll probably draw post-destruction Jyraneth in the 100 Themes picture she's going to appear in. She looks much more broken down there. As time passes and Jyraneth's stability starts dwindling, that blackness evident around her cheeks and eyes starts to encroach onto her features, and the color is bleached from her fur. Prior to when she started assimilating herself with the darkness, she was a very lovely mixture of golds, yellows, and oranges. If Jyraneth ever reaches the point where she's utterly consumed by darkness, she will, ironically, look like she's permanently frozen in that shadow-armor form Keaton and some members of the Jyraneth Clan use (seen in the fourth 100 Themes picture).
I hope that offers some explanation. ^^
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 15, 2008, 05:08:34 PM
Thank you very much! ^^ And honestly, I figured someone would say that, so I think I should specify: this is how Jyraneth will look in the second chapter of Keaton's backstory, where she is tentatively slated to make an appearance. This takes place before Jyraneth Clan is mostly-destroyed, so Jyraneth looks relatively stable in this picture.
Ah, right, so it's from when Keaton was younger? Cool. I must admit I tend to focus on the period just prior to the fall. IIRC it was evident to some clan members at that point that she wasn't exactly sane...
Ah loves the legwear. And the pose. Good ol ready poses.
love. pure love.
I hate trying to draw Xze as a psychopath D8 she already looks like one to a LOT of people...I can't draw Xze being psycho, and i can't draw Ozzie being cute DX
ahahahahhahahaha I totally suck because I promised an art jam and it isn't up yet. Instead I have the next of the 100 Themes pictures to show. But don't worry, the flood of art will be up as well soon. For now, here's something to hold you guys over.
100 Themes #62: Magic (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes62-Magic-Colored.jpg?t=1201533300)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: 2 Days
- Inking: Unknown
- Coloring: 2 Days
Currently Listening To: "Addicted," by Kelly Clarkson
I'm really lazy so I'm just going to post the description I put up on my DeviantArt here.
Aeriko Iyakune-Kamei'Sin, half-Cubi, SAIA student, involuntary member of Kamei'Sin Clan, and unfortunate subject of Keaton's wrath. While physically inept and vulnerable to just about everything, Aeriko is a promising magic practitioner and possesses abnormally advanced mental abilities for his age. As seen in this picture, he's demonstrating a mostly superficial spell generally used for shows.
More about him will be available in the future. I may either update this description to include more information, or write a more thorough summary with another picture. Either way, he's slated to appear in Keaton's upcoming backstory.This... pretty much was finished by itself. I was very satisfied with the lineart, both inked and drawn, but I had no idea how to work with the colored image. The spell was a bitch to finish and took multiple layers and filters to give it an appropriately shiny effect. Cogidubnus helped by giving me a link to a tutorial which ultimately gave me instructions on how to achieve that aforementioned, desired "shiny effect." :) After that, I messed around with the same filter to give the darkened appearance in the picture.
To the picky ones: yes, I am aware the background is painfully simplistic. XD I wasn't going for perfection there. Plus, I'm not entirely used to adding backgrounds to my pictures. This is something I'm trying to get used to. Another thing is that I'm also not used to working with shading and highlights when the light source is originating from a unique position, so there are bound to be some errors.
I am encouraging advanced critique for this picture so I can get more in-depth comments and advice as to how to improve my light perspective.
All-in-all, though, while the outcome of the picture was unexpected, I really enjoy the results. :)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Ooo, lookattheshinee!
Slightly more seriously, that glowing ball is designed ot be above his hand, shining light on his feet, yes?
Shouldn't it also be shining light on his upper right arm, where it's horizontal? You may also note that the light patterns on the lower arm would be ... interesting. And possibly worth looking at fiddling with sometime.
I'd also expect the highlights of the face - the high points - to be highlighted by light as well. That's another tricky one to figure out, though. You might find holding a torch and looking into the mirror helpful, here.
And the sole of his left foot is highlighted, when it should be in shadow...
That about what you wanted?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 10:27:07 AM
Ooo, lookattheshinee!
Slightly more seriously, that glowing ball is designed ot be above his hand, shining light on his feet, yes?
Shouldn't it also be shining light on his upper right arm, where it's horizontal? You may also note that the light patterns on the lower arm would be ... interesting. And possibly worth looking at fiddling with sometime.
I'd also expect the highlights of the face - the high points - to be highlighted by light as well. That's another tricky one to figure out, though. You might find holding a torch and looking into the mirror helpful, here.
And the sole of his left foot is highlighted, when it should be in shadow...
That about what you wanted?
That's
exactly what I wanted, thank you! :)
To be honest, the highlighting was much more prominent before I actually darkened the picture, but I wanted to accomplish a sort of subtle shading like in the recent pages of Abel's Story so I left it alone. It's only
now I'm starting to get really good ideas about how to make the highlighting look more realistic, after I converted the file into a JPEG... BLEH. :< Dammit.
The reason behind the highlighting on the foot was because of the angle of the spotlight in the background. I guess I was worried it would look too weird without the highlighting on the sole... hum.
Thanks for the critique, Llearch. It was much appreciated. :boogie
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 28, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
Thanks for the critique, Llearch. It was much appreciated. :boogie
You're welcome.
... Now go post on ER. We're all waiting for you. ;-]
Ooh, very nice. How did you do the eyes? Is that just a splodge of approximately the right shape or is it actually rendered somehow?
The eye looks cool indeed. :)
Very nice, Keats. :3
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 01:36:53 PM
Ooh, very nice. How did you do the eyes? Is that just a splodge of approximately the right shape or is it actually rendered somehow?
Thank you very much! As for the eyes.. they sort of happened on their own. I keep the white light which brightens the eyes on its own layer, set on "Normal," so it was perfectly unaffected when I made the background and the picture darker. I was rather surprised, but pleased by the outcome. The effect, when you get right down to it, was more by chance and kind of unremarkable. :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Lovely Keaton..Just wish ya updated your FA page more as wells
Hey everyone, point and laugh at my attempts to revitalize my topic before it gets locked. :B
Here's the art jam I promised. Not much of an art jam, since I still owe artwork (like to Zedd - don't worry, dude, I haven't forgotten), but that will be rectified in the future. I just need something to bolster my art topic back to the top of the page before it's locked for inactivity. Most of these pictures were drawn as Christmas gifts or
because I wanted people to pay me out of the kindness of my heart. Anyway, enjoy the first part of the so-far minuscule art jam thus far.
CLICK HERE: Picture #1 - Cogidubnus (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Cogidubnus2.jpg?t=1204648470)
Picture finished around - um, January.
I really didn't like this picture when I finished it. But actually, I kind of like it now, mostly because of the facial expression. Cogidubnus is surprisingly hard to draw. Don't let him deceive you, people. His character design is full of
lies.Yeah, I said it, Cog. I see right through you.
CLICK HERE: Picture #2 - Rynkura for Aisha (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Rynkura.jpg?t=1204648583)
Picture finished around... the first few days of January, I guess.
On the flipside, this is a picture I really really liked when I finished it, but now I feel I could have done better. Mostly because of the upper-body anatomy and the length of Rynkura's neck. Really, there is an explanation behind it besides my quite obvious inadequacy. Mostly it's the armor, which was the reason I liked the picture to begin with. I hate drawing armor, so I was really intimidated by drawing Rynkura's armor. After I did some reference-researching and whatnot, I tried drawing it, and it turned out better than I imagined. I even tried drawing an armor-clad character in a much larger picture I'll be showing you guys later.
Aisha seemed to like it, though. :B
CLICK HERE: Picture #3 - Daryil (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Daryil.jpg?t=1204648992)
Also finished around January.
"To lollipops, great taste at a low, low price..."Fan art for Tapewolf. Unfortunately, I think I really screwed up Daryil in this picture in my ambition to try and make him look as awesome as I felt he deserved. In Future History he's usually described as a gray fox, so I wasn't sure if he had any extra markings... which is why he has those wonky markings on his body and the spiffy wings. Unfortunately, this was so beyond my initial envisioning of Daryil that I'm just not happy with this picture anymore :< I'm going to redraw Daryil in the future with a much better design, I swear. :cry
Actually, I have a few ideas about a picture regarding him in the 100 Themes series, most of which involve humorous depictions. Weird, since most of 100 Themes is emo-central.
Oh, but before anyone remarks - that's not a mole on his face; that's part of his marking. My intention was to draw Daryil's markings similarly to his clan marking so it would appear logical where he got the inspiration to design it, or whatnot. And that is not a goatee-beard he has. That's part of his hair hidden behind his chin.
CLICK HERE: Bonus Picture - Original Character: Jamenaratu (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Jamen.jpg?t=1204649346)
To flesh this art jam out, here's something I finished a few days ago, of an original character I made. More information about him can be found in the DeviantArt submission of this picture ( CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/New-Jamenaratu-78996976)), and a profile image of him complete with history and personality notes will probably be finished in the future.
To summarize Jamen without going into any depth, Jamen is a gay pyromaniac who also suffers from manic depression (bipolar disorder). He is a half-Demon, or Demi-Demon, and was thereby persecuted for it when he resided in the Mortal world. His experiences have left him a little bit emotionally rattled (actually, very much so), so he demands love and affection. For this reason he has a polygamous (polyandrous?) relationship with two other men, Daphiel and Ihril, which quite fortunately tends to curb his obsession with lighting things on fire since he really only turns to those destructive tendencies when he feels emotionally exhausted or bereft of warmth. His habitual fire-loving revolves almost entirely around his flip-flopping emotions, as well as some other nasty things. Really, it's hard to define him without going excessively into his history, but when I get his profile out things will be clearer.
That's all of the pictures for now. In the future, expect some more pictures from the 100 Themes series. I have something nice. >:3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
Here's the art jam I promised. Not much of an art jam, since I still owe artwork (like to Zedd - don't worry, dude, I haven't forgotten), but that will be rectified in the future.
I'm cure I've seen that Cog one before... anyway. Rynkura has turned out quite well. There seems to be a slight blip in the way the texture follows the cloth at one point, but apart from that minor niggle it's very nice.
The one of Daryil is pretty good - I'll be giving Ren that as a reference for Daryil in Project Future. I saw Jamen on DA last night, but I still think he's adorable.
QuoteYeah, I said it, Cog. I see right through you.
Ohnoes! My evil plans are ruiiiiined~ D:
Although seriously, I love that picture to death, Keats. :3
And Jamen is like the cutest Pyromaniac ever.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
...because I wanted people to pay me...
And how exactly are they supposed to do that? :razz
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
CLICK HERE: Picture #3 - Daryil (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Daryil.jpg?t=1204648992)
His left arm looks kinda funky, like he's trying to reach outward by only moving his shoulder.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
CLICK HERE: Bonus Picture - Original Character: Jamenaratu (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Jamen.jpg?t=1204649346)
Bish~ :.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
That's all of the pictures for now. In the future, expect some more pictures from the 100 Themes series. I have something nice. >:3
She's not lying! D:
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 04, 2008, 12:21:14 PM
I'm sure I've seen that Cog one before...
Gee, I wonder why. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/xHaZxMaTx/Smilies/eusa_whistle.gif)
Awesome stuff as always, Keats! Keep up the great work. :3
I love these all :D
100 Themes #74: Are You Challenging Me? (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes74-ChallengingText.jpg?t=1204989124)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: No clue (a very, very long time)
Currently Listening To: "In the Navy," by the Village People (ha ha @ Stygian >:3)
[insert long string of gibberish here]
Oh dear GOD I... this took so fucking long, and I'm overjoyed with the results of my hard work. I couldn't be more proud, and I hope you guys enjoy this piece of work. I don't know if this picture will be colored in the future, but it will be a very long time before I tackle that project, considering the immense detail applied to this image. Inking this thing would kill me. For this picture I decided to try something a bit new with my style which will hopefully improve the way I draw furries: particularly, I'm going to research what the actual animals look like and adopt their distinctive characteristics to help differentiate them in my pictures. I tried doing that with Qaisyne. She's a lioness, and in order to draw her I had to look up real animals, while completely abstaining from popular depictions such as the Lion King and et cetera. The reason behind this is because I don't want any other styles to influence my work, since I've been unconsciously adopting methods of drawing from other people. This is largely a trial and error process, but hopefully I'll benefit from it in the end.
Jyraneth doesn't look like a jackal, much, because her ears are folded back.
Depicted in this picture are Jyraneth and Qaisyne Kamei'Sin, the clan leaders of their respective clans. Jyraneth has a bit of a fashion change, as you can see. She's a bit into gothic lolita dresses. Much praise goes to Mel Dragonkitty for helping me out with the front of the gown. <3 The wing-tentacles were very improvised, especially since I had never drawn them before. Ultimately, I'm happy with how Jyraneth's turned out, but Qaisyne's are a little wonky. That's all I don't like about the picture. Mostly everything here was a test of my skills, from the details in Jyraneth's lace to Qaisyne's armor design.
By the way, critique is pretty much optional for this picture. I don't mind if you critique it. :)
Cheers, everybody.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 08, 2008, 10:23:25 AM
For this picture I decided to try something a bit new with my style which will hopefully improve the way I draw furries: particularly, I'm going to research what the actual animals look like and adopt their distinctive characteristics to help differentiate them in my pictures. I tried doing that with Qaisyne. She's a lioness, and in order to draw her I had to look up real animals
It worked. Very well. The only thing I missed was that I thought Qaisyne was male with a breastplate - but as soon as I saw it - before reading the blurb -I instantly thought 'lion'.
I like the logo at the bottom... ;-]
Mindbogglingly good.
Also, I like the contrast in Jyraneth, between her disembowel-you-as-soon-as-look-at-you expression, and the lacy frilly dress.
Personally, I find the folks who have blood up to their elbows, but are still smiling sweetly and wearing lacy frilly dress etc, more disturbing.
Hence why Regina is such a good design...
La de da. Another 100 Themes picture for you all, this time a colored image which took me
forever to complete. Like the last picture, I'm very happy with this one. I seem to be on a roll.
100 Themes #48: Childhood (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes48-ChildhoodFinishedS.jpg?t=1206383324)
Currently Listening To: "Creek Mary's Blood," by Nightwish
Time Spent:
- Drawing: Approximately 3 days.
- Inking: Forgot.
- Coloring: I lost count after the fifth day.
FYI, the fellow standing in the background of this picture is not one of my characters, as the copyrights say. That character belongs to Stygian. His presence in this picture implies more than just a mere cameo. >:3 However, I'm not going to indulge precisely what his role is.
So bother Stygian. :shifty
This entire picture was an experiment. It was an experiment in backgrounds (the multiple layers of red curls and outlines were created entirely by pencil, on one layer), special effects (such as the veins on the ground and Stygian's 'corruption' effect around his eyes, temples, and hand, which were created thanks to some very helpful Photoshop brushes)... and a new style of highlighting I'll be using more often now. I used to use the dodge tool to highlight most of my pictures, but the results of using that tool were often extremely messy and created unsightly pale blotches all over the picture. Not to mention I couldn't reverse the effects since I had to use them on the same layer as the colors if I was unsatisfied.
Now I use the pencil tool, with the help of the lasso tool to keep everything nice and isolated to clean shapes. The best examples of highlighting is on Stygian's suit and Keaton's wings and hair. Even the shading was a new style for me, although it isn't as apparent. Someone on DeviantArt told me that my shading style is slightly monotonous and in need of some more dynamics, so I decided to experiment by using different-sized brushes for larger and smaller regions throughout the picture. Best examples, once again, are most evident in Stygian's suit and Keaton's wings. The bat-sprite floating in front of Keaton's face was drawn away from the image, then cut and pasted on its own layer, where I gave it the outer glow effect.
The whole picture reeks of symbolism, I guess. In essence, all the black shapes writhing around Keaton's form is pure darkness, and it's gradually creeping towards Keaton, who's in the sole patch of light in the picture. It's as though she's unaware of the corruption taking place around her, like it's on a separate plane of its own, because she's too distracted by the innocent little creature Stygian created to keep her occupied blah blah blah okay you know what I don't give a crap. Most of this stuff is improvised, anyway, since this picture was definitely just that: improvised. I was fucking around too much, but I'm not complaining since this came out well. :)
Again, critiques/constructive criticisms are optional, but nevertheless appreciated. I prefer constructive criticism over critique, actually, since people compare and contrast the flaws and good parts of the picture.
And before anyone asks: I don't know how old Keaton is in the picture. At first I drew her as though she was five, but she ended up becoming larger than I intended. The reason Stygian is so short is because I fucked up there. :< You can only imagine my frustration when I found out and didn't want to erase my hard work on Stygian's somber expression and facial features. But I managed to rectify the situation by making it look like he's partially encapsulated in darkness. So if something seems wrong in the height differences, chalk it up to his lower body being, essentially, gone.
The aforementioned Photoshop vein brushes were respectfully downloaded from this website: Click here (http://www.cg-links.com/link/Photoshop_Brushes/Veins/5114).
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 24, 2008, 04:28:38 PM
That character belongs to Stygian. His presence in this picture implies more than just a mere cameo. >:3 However, I'm not going to indulge precisely what his role is.
How about divulging it? :3
(Sorry, but it had to be done. I could just see llearch or someone else doing it if I didn't beat them to it...)
As it picture it's quite interesting, and well-executed. Rather more disturbing than I'm really happy with, although that's probably the idea.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 24, 2008, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 24, 2008, 04:28:38 PM
That character belongs to Stygian. His presence in this picture implies more than just a mere cameo. >:3 However, I'm not going to indulge precisely what his role is.
How about divulging it? :3
(Sorry, but it had to be done. I could just see llearch or someone else doing it if I didn't beat them to it...)
I wouldn't dare. Keats would kill Witt.
Or, worse, take his drink away! ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 24, 2008, 05:02:04 PM
How about divulging it? :3
(Sorry, but it had to be done. I could just see llearch or someone else doing it if I didn't beat them to it...)
lol no. :> Styg would kill me. XD So would my inner writer. I've already told too many secrets to Keaton's backstory up here. There are hardly any surprises left.
QuoteAs it picture it's quite interesting, and well-executed. Rather more disturbing than I'm really happy with, although that's probably the idea.
Thank you very much. :) Though as for the disturbing bit... trust me, there's going to be far more disturbing things in the 100 Themes series. I'm probably going to draw that particular "thing" next, unless I get sidetracked by much nicer, prettier ideas. It's either the disturbing idea or the really pretty one next.
I'll probably do the crazy-disturbing thing first, then the pretty one next, as something for people to get over.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 24, 2008, 05:08:52 PM
I wouldn't dare. Keats would kill Witt.
Or, worse, take his drink away! ;-]
I like Witt too much to kill him off, for the record. :3
Plus, a drunk Witt is a happy Witt. Or something similar to happiness.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 24, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Thank you very much. :) Though as for the disturbing bit... trust me, there's going to be far more disturbing things in the 100 Themes series. I'm probably going to draw that particular "thing" next, unless I get sidetracked by much nicer, prettier ideas. It's either the disturbing idea or the really pretty one next.
Well, there's disturbing and disturbing. This one creeps me out because it makes no sense but at the same time can't be good.
Something overtly bad can be less disturbing because it makes more sense, if you see what I mean...
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 24, 2008, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 24, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Thank you very much. :) Though as for the disturbing bit... trust me, there's going to be far more disturbing things in the 100 Themes series. I'm probably going to draw that particular "thing" next, unless I get sidetracked by much nicer, prettier ideas. It's either the disturbing idea or the really pretty one next.
Well, there's disturbing and disturbing. This one creeps me out because it makes no sense but at the same time can't be good.
Something overtly bad can be less disturbing because it makes more sense, if you see what I mean...
I see what you mean. Usually being subtle works a lot more than just being outright lurid, because being lurid often means being tasteless and sacrificing art and emotionality for shock value, and subtlety relies on harnessing the power of one's imagination. In the end, I'd much rather get a genuine emotional reaction from people rather than a cheaply-won response from emotionally manipulative scenes.
Really, this picture was initially supposed to be teeming with creatures which looked like they were part of Keaton's imagination, but then I ended up messing up Stygian's height and decided to do all the black shapes and stuff. I like it much better this way, and I realize I'd much rather leave the interpretation up to other people instead of half-assing a pretentious attempt at symbolism myself. :)
In your case, I'm rather surprised the picture came across as so... sinister. I was so satisfied with the "ooh, shiny!" factor that I didn't realize it was so creepy. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I think it's Keaton's expression which does it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 25, 2008, 10:09:51 AM
I think it's Keaton's expression which does it.
Ironically I wasn't too happy with her expression at first. Now I am happy with it, but I just thought she was staring off into space at first.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
She was.
And then you filled the space with imagination. ;-]
Indeed the box calls it true.
... The box called it facetious, but it might well be true. ;-]
Heh very cute
Woo. Done with one of the 100 Themes pictures.
#76: Broken Pieces (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes-BrokenPiecesColor-5.jpg)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: 2 Days
- Inking: 2 Days
- Coloring: 2 Days
A fairly consistent amount of time was spent on this picture. The coloring process went by
much more smoothly than it normally would due to my new Wacom art tablet (BIRTHDAY PRESENT!). It's an insanely accurate model, so I've been having a lot of fun with toying with the precision and the pressure in order to create varied depth to the lines. But you can't really see that in this picture, so never mind. :< Really, the tablet has just sped up the process somewhat, and made things MUCH cleaner and nicer. A good example being the shading on the giant wine splash at the final panel.
By the way, this scene was taken from Tapewolf's story "The Future History of Jakob Pettersohn." Tapewolf suggested the concept for "Broken Pieces" a long time ago.
Enjoy. :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Broken pieces has a broken link... but I've seen the other themes. They're scary.
Edit: I've seen it now. That's the best one yet! I loved the expression on Keaton's face, and the way the glass dropped.
Quote from: Gabi on May 05, 2008, 07:46:17 PM
Broken pieces has a broken link... but I've seen the other themes. They're scary.
It does? The link worked just fine for me. I'll tinker with it a little.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Nevermind, Keaton. You fixed it while I was typing, so I've edited my post.
wow, this last one looks a lot more smooth and animated then the normal keaton work.
neither a 'good' thing or a 'bad' thing but rather an 'im impressed you have such range' thing
Oh, that has come out very nicely. The DMFA-like wall effects are good, though they might be a little stark in the final pane - if it were me, I'd have considered blurring them.
Very nice
Nice picture, Keaton, especially the expressions.
Thanks for the wonderful replies, everyone! This picture was quite well-received - I love it! Thanks, guys! ^^
Tapewolf made a really good suggestion a bit earlier, and since I still had the PSD I decided to follow his advice. I altered the background in the final panel somewhat so that way it's a bit less flat, and I really like the adjustments. It makes the impact look more pronounced, and plus it looks pretty.
76: Broken Pieces, with New Background-Panel (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes-BrokenPiecesColoredB.jpg)
I'll be replacing the link to the picture on the front page of this thread with this one, since I think this one looks much nicer.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 06, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
Tapewolf made a really good suggestion a bit earlier, and since I still had the PSD I decided to follow his advice. I altered the background in the final panel somewhat so that way it's a bit less flat, and I really like the adjustments. It makes the impact look more pronounced, and plus it looks pretty.
Cool. I can't claim full credit of course - I learned the technique by reverse-engineering DMFA >:3
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Alice-Colored-Lines-Shadows-85309709)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: Unknown
- Inking: 3 Hours
- Coloring: 2 Hours
Took a break from the 100 Themes to practice something someone on DeviantArt suggested. The same person suggested I start implementing colored lines into my pictures, something which I have -never- done before (with the exception of the eyes in my previous pictures; but that's minimal), so I tried it using an older picture I drew a while back and submitted here. Personally, I love how it turned out. >:3
I inked the picture using the Photoshop pen tool. This tutorial (http://delya.deviantart.com/art/Pen-Tool-Inking-Tutorial-v2-0-75255446) helped. The style to color this is far too cartoony, at the moment, and takes so much time that I'll probably stick to black lines for most of my pictures, while intermittently switching to colored lines and cel shading for cuter or simpler pictures like this. I might use some of my shading technique I used here in my typical shading style.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Very nice deary
I... am not big on colored lines, it makes the whole image loose definition. If I were doing it... I'd use stronger shading, or darker lines.
why are stuffed animals more cute as they get mangled?
and yet somehow i am compelled to compliment the adorable little keaton head logo
Quote from: WhiteFox on May 11, 2008, 02:29:17 AM
I... am not big on colored lines, it makes the whole image loose definition. If I were doing it... I'd use stronger shading, or darker lines.
I'd have to agree, I'm afraid. From a technical standpoint it works well, but artistically, I feel it's lost something.
I haven't seen the coloured-line technique used much. There are a few I have with faint outlines. The closest I can think of offhand is Turnsky's
Mythical Creatures cover and IMHO even that would probably have looked a bit strange if he hadn't added an outline on the fur.
( For reference: http://dougtheeagle.com/mce/mce.png - The grass, clothes and hair are all done with coloured lines, the actual figure is not).
Quote from: Brunhidden on May 11, 2008, 07:31:46 AM
why are stuffed animals more cute as they get mangled?
The Velveteen Rabbit?
Quote from: Brunhidden on May 11, 2008, 07:31:46 AM
and yet somehow i am compelled to compliment the adorable little keaton head logo
Indeed. I overlooked that.
Very, very cute. ;-]
Quote from: WhiteFox on May 11, 2008, 02:29:17 AM
I... am not big on colored lines, it makes the whole image loose definition. If I were doing it... I'd use stronger shading, or darker lines.
Hmm. Thank you for the critique. I'll try using both in a future picture.
Quote from: Brunhidden on May 11, 2008, 07:31:46 AM
and yet somehow i am compelled to compliment the adorable little keaton head logo
Oh, thank you! ^^ The same logo's in all of the 100 Themes pictures. I'm rather fond of it as well.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 11, 2008, 07:56:47 AM
The Velveteen Rabbit?
Ironically, the Velveteen Rabbit was my main source of inspiration regarding the character in the picture's backstory. ;)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
O_O Anthro Pokemon!
Colored lines can work well, actually. The Lion King (http://www.youkai.de/vlcsnap-9589847.jpg), anybody? Note how black is only used for some key features.
In my eyes, the key is knowing what color to choose for the outline of each shape. It'll take some practice and experience, but I think it can be quite rewarding when done right.
100 Themes #84: Out Cold (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes-OutCold.jpg?t=1211495473)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: Lost count. I kept periodically forgetting and re-adopting this project during the mad search for a transparent ruler.
Currently Listening To: Stygian singing "Ieva's Polka"
I FINALLY FINISHED <3
Before anyone asks, Mel actually doesn't appear in Keaton's backstory. At least, not like this. This was done just for fun, and because I wanted to do something nice for Mel. :3 Plus the idea sounded like a lot of fun, until I ended up getting carpal tunnel from drawing ALL THOSE STUPID ROSES. Goddammit I HATE roses. Hate them to death. I'm going to plant a bunch of roses just so I can set those things on fire, and THEN I'll have the last laugh. So ha.
There
is a bit of a story to this picture, but it's really up to you to put your mind to it and concoct your own backstory. Right now some aspects of the picture are kind of unintelligible in the black-and-white, cluttered version, but I'm planning on coloring this in the future using an interesting style I saw someone on DeviantArt use. As a preview, I'm going to skip the inking process and go straight to coloring on this, while leaving the lineart layer on partial opacity so it looks semi-translucent against the color layer. If I do it right, it should look very nice.
In the background, behind the gate, that's supposed to be snow. :< Blah. Yes. Mel's power over ice is fun to play with. I feel as though I botched this picture somewhat by getting too excited at the end and rushing, but I think I can make this look
much better in the colored version. Other than that, I'm very happy with the roses (even though I hate drawing them) and Mel and Keaton. Her mother made that winter outfit for her; don't make fun of her, kids. :C
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm guessing there's a string down behind her wings, running across her shoulder blades, with the two wing-mittens tied to either end, yes?
Yes?
So very cute. Very very cute indeed. And yes, I can't wait for the coloured version to show the snow up properly.
Still cute.
It's beautiful. I'm at a loss of words. Great work, Keaton! :3 But the mittens look just too funny. I'm sorry, I could not hold back the laughter. But they are cute!!
That is gorgeous. I particularly like the little muffs on the tops of her wings.
Simply concealing them might have been more sensible, if less artistic.
The only thing that is a little questionable to my mind is Keaton's eyes - the pupils are very dilated, which makes her look slightly spaced-out...
I must echo those above me - still absolutely cute, and as I said the first time, I still love those roses. Really, really awesome, Keats - I can't wait to see what you do with it when you color it. :3
[gives Keaton a giant hug] It's beautiful! You make Mel look very elegant, even with that "yeah, I made roses bloom in the middle of winter" smirk at Keaton's shock. The wing mittens and the jester hat give me the giggles. Don't tell Keaton's mom.
It looks really cute
Wow everyone, thank you all so much for your comments on the last picture. It was so well-received. ^^ I'm definitely going to color it eventually...
Oh, but here's another picture.
100 Themes #98: Puzzle (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes-PuzzleBW.jpg?t=1212418902)
Time Taken:Currently Listening To: "It's Not Over," by Daughtry
Ehem. Uh, those who are keeping track of my DeviantArt journal know that I promised I'd take care of 64: Horror next in my 100 Themes series, but I spent most of Saturday from the computer in celebration of the summer, just when the doodlebug bit me. Horror is already completely inked, so all that needs to be done is the coloring, which I
need my computer for, of course. But I was desperate to draw something and I didn't have reference for the characters involved in the
next 100 Themes topic (Hero), so I improvised. I'm such a bad person. :cry
This picture will definitely be colored. I'm already inking it, panel by panel, and it's giving me a lot of grief. I was planning on giving it colored lines, but given my typical shading style, I decided to go with my usual black lines (after a LOT of experimentation and coloring and erasing and coloring again BLAAAAARGH). Not a problem, considering I loved how Broken Pieces turned out. Might give the background colored lines instead but that might be sort of awkward... but I won't know until I try it. Besides, I'm saving the method of alternate lines for Horror (kind of).
I've been on a major Lianna kick. I love my crazy little traumatized thing. I've also been on a major background kick ever since I finished drawing Out Cold. The scene is taking place in SAIA, which is kind of implied within the picture - Fa'Lina's clan marking is present on one of the portraits, but it's obviously flawed since I didn't have reference at the time. It'll be fixed in the colored version. If you look
really closely at one of the diplomas, you'll see the same marking. Another thing I'm really proud of is the puzzle. I counted all the rows and the pieces to make it completely identical in both panels it appears in. The number of pieces on the box is also accurate to the actual number of puzzle pieces drawn. I kind of botched Lianna's expression in the last panel, but this might have been early in her rehabilitation process in SAIA so she might not be at her best.
Oh, and in the corner is Lianna's weapon, Mister Hammer. She's probably not used to being apart from "him."
For those who are curious, the cobra is Desdemona Duskayne. She's a king cobra, but since that, too, was drawn without reference to the actual animal, I kind of disobeyed my promise to draw animals a bit more accurately to their realistic counterparts. That'll be rectified in future pictures of Desdemona, since I like her too much to draw her only once. As the scene implies, she is a psychiatrist, and is assigned to helping rehabilitate Lianna and help her recover. Poor gal's been through a
lot of traumatic shit in her life.
Anyway, look forward to the next 100 Themes picture soon: Horror. Hero will be next, most likely, since it's kind of been leading in the poll ongoing in my DeviantArt page for a while.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm not sure I've seen much of Lianna. You've done a good job on her design, and well, everything, really. I particularly like the "That's that. Now what?" look on her face in the main panel.
Out of interest, whenabouts is this set? She seems to be making some progress with her recovery, which is all to the good. My one question is that I thought she had a warhammer rather than one from a carpentry set.
And as for the Fa'Lina clan mark, it's drifted a little through the strip anyway - I certainly recognised it even before I read the description.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 02, 2008, 11:27:38 AM
I'm not sure I've seen much of Lianna. You've done a good job on her design, and well, everything, really. I particularly like the "That's that. Now what?" look on her face in the main panel.
Out of interest, whenabouts is this set? She seems to be making some progress with her recovery, which is all to the good. My one question is that I thought she had a warhammer rather than one from a carpentry set.
And as for the Fa'Lina clan mark, it's drifted a little through the strip anyway - I certainly recognised it even before I read the description.
Heh, thank you ^^ Actually, I've drawn Lianna twice before, but her design, while mostly consistent since then, has been altered around her hands. I'm surprised you like the expression since I thought that was the weakest part of the picture.
About when this is set... um... I'd say rather early into her rehabilitation, when she was introduced into SAIA. I find it's the only explanation to her depressed expression. So maybe a little before Future History? As for the hammer, I always imagined Mister Hammer to be rather like an enormous carpenter's hammer, kind of like the one Kammi has here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_56.php). Partially because it'd be multi-functional given the large hook in the back, and because the coliseum Lianna was held captive at didn't really have very advanced weaponry. A warhammer would be super-awesome, though... I like those.
I feel I should mention that Lianna
used to have a warhammer before the Jyraneth Empire fell, but it was confiscated by the Kamei'Sin around her capture. Which is a crying shame, since I liked that thing. The warhammer is about the same nature as Keaton's Morningstar, Catastrophe.
Also, I'm glad you recognized the clan marking. XD That's a bit of a relief, given I was kind of worried about it.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Next, you get a real puzzle.
The 1000 piece "Purple Horror".
For those who haven't heard of this monstrosity, it's painted precisely the same shade of purple across the entire jigsaw. On both sides. With 1000 almost, but not quite, identical little pieces.
It's evil.
Great work, Keaton! Great work indeed. Both the characters and the background are superb, and I can't wait to see it coloured. And Lianna's expression makes me want to give her a hug. Or a cookie. Probably both. :3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 02, 2008, 11:38:09 AM
Next, you get a real puzzle.
The 1000 piece "Purple Horror".
For those who haven't heard of this monstrosity, it's painted precisely the same shade of purple across the entire jigsaw. On both sides. With 1000 almost, but not quite, identical little pieces.
It's evil.
You're evil. :< For suggesting something like that. :3
I still think that accurately drawing a puzzle the same way twice is... for lack of a better descriptor, insane. Doing something like that still seems to me like it would be extremely hard.
Lianna does look kinda out of it, but then, I suppose she would. Desdemona is also one of the more unique characters I've seen - the way her hood is done is pretty neat, I think. As psychiatrist, I suppose she really is a snake charmer. :3
And Mr. Hammer! (Hooray's for seeing more of this rarely seen character. xD) Mr. Hammer is nicely detailed (wood whorls!), and looks very nice. :3 Although it does look more like Lianna should be a carpenter than swinging him in battle. x3
Is very nice, Keats. I loves it to death. :3
You're really putting in a lot of effort into these 100 themes and this one was no exception!
Thank you all very much for the comments, everyone. Because people seemed to like this picture, I decided to make a little preview of one of the colored panels for it. :3
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes-PuzzlePreview.jpg?t=1212534370)
Yes, it's going to have colored lines because I think it'll make the background look more vibrant. Yes, I know I said I wouldn't. Yes, I am a horrible liar. Otherwise, working with them is going to be a paaaaaain. I do like how this turned out, though.
This is probably the last you guys're gonna see of Puzzle for a while until I've finished Horror and Hero. :< I've actually wanted to work on this somewhat, so that's slightly irritating, but I want to stick with my self-imposed schedule. XD
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Very nice colors and I am so curious if you havent forgoten
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I don't know how I missed this little snippet of an update. I'd just like to say that's probably the best coloring of yours I've seen yet.
And another update! I'm pumping these out really fast. FEEL that summer productivity, everyone! FEEL IT! I'm free from school for the next few months and AC's coming up! <3
100 Themes #68: Hero (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-100Themes-HeroSmaller.jpg?t=1212963303)
Time Taken:
* Drawing: Approximately 3 Hours
Currently Listening To: "Ordinary Pain," from the Soul Calibur II Soundtrack
Oh look, I'm totally
not copying and pasting this from my DeviantArt page,
I swear. Oh, by the way, this picture was the kind-of-sort-of winner of that poll I ran on DeviantArt. I say "kind-of-sort-of" because I voted as well so I could see all the options, and there was another option tied with it. I just went with the one I actually had a solid idea for.
I swear to God there's a bigger purpose here than to include all of my friends in a bunch of pictures. Really. XD
Actually, this is a reference to an upcoming intermission chapter in Keaton's backstory. Intermission chapters are going to be little stories devoted to characters or events which do not occur within the general flow of the backstory, generally expanding upon events alluded to or divulging secrets. In other words, they're kind of like reprieves from the basic backstory to examine other characters. There will probably be four intermission chapters in all: I'm not going to go into a lot of detail, but one of the intermission chapters will have Tikal and Gareeku in it. Gareeku's going to be collaborating with me on the chapter.
My biggest beef with this picture is the height between the characters. According to Gareeku's reference sheet, his character is six feet, spot on. Tikal is a shorty - he's 5'8". However, the two characters are supposed to be disembodied from each other, since their respective images fade away around their legs. I'll just assume that Tikal's image is floating higher up than Gareeku's.
Other than that, I really like how this picture turned out. I like how Gareeku turned out most especially. I'm usually not very good at male anatomy, but he looks alright here. Totally did him without reference, too - I might draw more of Gareeku, since it was easy for me to memorize his design. Tikal gave me a lot of trouble, but I think he started to look better after I finished his wings. Much kudos to my friends for putting up with my incessant bitching and complaining about how much I hated working on Tikal's absurdly complicated wings. GOD TIKAL,
WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE PLAIN WINGS LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.Uh... ironically, although Tikal is my character, I needed reference for his markings and outfit. :B By the way, there's a major change to Tikal's design, but you all can't see it due to his clothes. I'll give you all a hint: it's not a marking or a tattoo. :3 Come on, guess, guys. Plz? I'm so alone. :cry
Oh, and I changed his last name again. It's not Tikal St. Kennedy anymore, thank god. It's Tikal St. Zerachiel. It's much more appropriate, because Zerachiel is a lesser-known archangel who protects the children of people who have sinned. Zerachiel's symbol is the sun, which is the symbol of Tikal's religion. Don't believe me? Look it up on Wikipedia. Granted, the article is a pathetically small stub and doesn't cite any references or sources... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerachiel)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I think I know what the change is, but I think it'd be cheating if I said something. :<
Also, it looks awesome, Keats. Gar looks very nice, and for some reason Tikal looks especially badass.
*Agrees with the wolf above*
Thanks for the comments, guys. :3 In another spree of summer productivity, I managed to finish another picture which was giving me absolute HELL. I promised I'd get it done, though, and I did! Ha ha! In your face, laziness! c:
100 Themes #65: Horror (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/65-Horror-88159156)
PRESENTED IN SUPER-COLOR
Time Taken:
* Drawing: 2 Days
* Inking: Approximately 3 Days
* Coloring: Unknown... I guess approximately 5 days, if I were to combine all the time and disregarded the days I spent lounging around and spending time on other projects. :B
Currently Listening To: "The Bird and the Worm," by the Used
I'm copying and pasting the description from DeviantArt again. All that needs to be said has been said already, really, plus, while I've triumphed over laziness once, I'm not obligated to do it again. :> :shifty
This... took much longer than it should have. Sure, this involved a detailed background, which I'm very inexperienced at, but I kept getting sidetracked from this picture and wandered away to other projects. Hence why the coloring took so damn long. Usually, if I were to sit and actually do all my coloring and inking in one sitting, it wouldn't take so long - but I intermittently pause and take advantage of intervals between working to relax and do whatever. Hence, why calculating the exact time it takes to do all the stages in completing my artwork is so difficult.
This was an exceptionally difficult drawing and coloring for me, for obvious reasons. This is the first time I've actually drawn a background which involves scenery - that is, and colored it. I've done a scenic background before (in Out Cold), but that hasn't been colored yet.
Lianna and Keaton were inked individually in Macromedia Freehand, then I moved them onto the background, which I inked in Photoshop. Not a very smart idea - but originally I was planning on adding colored lines to the background, but I decided the picture was too dark and it would be too difficult. Nowadays I'm planning on exclusively inking my pictures in Photoshop, since the process is much faster and cleaner and easier to manipulate and color and add neato-keen backgrounds.
Lianna's clothing gave me a lot of grief with deciding the color scheme, but I decided on orange, ultimately, since that's her favorite color. The design of the clothing is great for me, but I don't like the color. Next time, I'll decide what to color the outfit before I color it. Oh, but Keaton's wearing the same outfit as she did in the Childhood picture.
Lianna and Keaton are eight years old in this picture. This is a dramatization of another scene planned in Keaton's backstory - the first chapter, actually. They'll also be eight years old in the first chapter since it'll basically be an exploration of their relationship and an introduction of the settings, not to mention most of the supporting cast in Keaton's family. As for the nature of this scene... Keaton and Lianna are searching for something, but I'm not going to divulge just what yet. >:3
Oh, by the way. How I did the background was really inspired by some of the recent pages in the webcomic Earthsong (http://www.earthsongsaga.com/), which took place in a similarly-lighted forest. Utilizing shades of blue is a really good way to emphasize the darkness in the scene. Plus how Lady Yates shaded her characters was a great guide as to how to shade Keaton and Lianna in dark environments. However, I don't have the good lady's skill with a tablet yet, even though the tablet made coloring this infinitely easier than the process would be with a mouse.
By the way, I still have yet to count all the layers I used in this picture. BLEH. Trust me, it was a pain in the ass considering how painstaking everything was.
Oh, also, I don't know why Lianna and Keaton don't have wings. I couldn't really fit the wings into the picture without crunching them against each other, so assume that I made Keaton and Lianna Beings in this picture to emphasize their vulnerability in this situation blah blah blah I'm pulling this stuff out of my ass.
Input on this picture would be
very much appreciated, since... well, I slaved over it! :C And I like hearing comments from y'all. I get the most feedback on my artwork on this forum, which is so awesome. As with the Magic picture, I'd really like to hear some
constructive criticism if you guys have any to offer - like what you guys like about the picture, and what you think can be improved, and
how those pesky flaws can be improved.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Personally, I think the highlights on Keaton and Lianna are a little too intense. To me, it looks like a torch or is being shone upon them. Maybe there is such a lightsource off-shot, but I can't see it.
That aside, the colouring and shading is magnificent.
OOo!
*adds Earthsong to his list of comics*
Wow! Great work, Keaton! :) And your previous drawing is great too!
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on June 09, 2008, 01:50:28 PM
Wow! Great work, Keaton! :) And your previous drawing is great too!
Thanks, Ren! :boogie Much appreciated. *tips hat to you* :3
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 09, 2008, 12:46:33 PM
Personally, I think the highlights on Keaton and Lianna are a little too intense. To me, it looks like a torch or is being shone upon them. Maybe there is such a lightsource off-shot, but I can't see it.
That aside, the colouring and shading is magnificent.
The lightsource is... above, I think. But since I'm really inconsistent with highlights because light sources suck for me, I kind of messed it up. :B So... there are probably multiple light sources in the form of the eyes.
But thank you, Tape. ^^
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 09, 2008, 01:37:34 PM
OOo!
*adds Earthsong to his list of comics*
Trust me, it's a good read, if a little complicated at times. :3
Oh, as for why I'm posting again...
I can't decide what to do next in the 100 Themes series again, so I'm asking you guys again - in the form of a convenient poll. There are only three legitimate options. The fourth one was just added because when I'm actually feeling healthy self esteem-wise, I enjoy poking fun at myself.
By the way, if you pick the fourth option, I'll hate you all forever. You'll all be off my BFF lists. >:C
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 10, 2008, 11:21:28 PM
Trust me, it's a good read, if a little complicated at times. :3
It was. *cough*
Edit: Severely tempted to vote #4, but decided not to.
Voted for the first one, but if you're still willing to make sandwiches... :B
why does the last option make me think of a French maid outfit? in which case its probably a 'hand-burger'
answer probably has to do with the $1.50 wine i just drank
Well, I voted for the second variant without even thinking. BOLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
..I am such a "Warhammer 40K" geek... :sweatdrop
Oh god I'm finally done with this.
100 Themes #98: Puzzle (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/100%20Themes/Scan-100Themes-Puzzle-FinishedRe-1.jpg?t=1213391164)
Time Taken:
* Drawing: 2 Days
* Inking: Unknown, roughly the same time as the coloring
* Drawing: REALLY unknown; I kept procrastinating
Currently Listening To: "Never Enough," by Five Finger Death Punch
My biggest objective with finishing this picture was to complete it before Sunday rolled around, because that's when Father's Day is and I wanted to send a printed copy of this picture to my grandfather. Last night I managed to finish a great deal of it, then left my computer on overnight so I could pick up where I left off and hopefully finish it before the weekend. I'm rather surprised I got this done. Oo I thought it was gonna take an eternity.
At first this was going to be entirely in colored lines, but then someone suggested I try a new style in which the characters, save for some internalized details like the hair and clothing, have black outlines, while those aforementioned characteristics have colored outlines.
I finally fixed Fa'Lina's clan marking so it's closer to the actual DMFA version, and I managed to duplicate it so I could put very small versions on the diplomas on the wall. Another aspect of the picture I'm really, really proud of is the table. Making the wood patterning was a
lot of fun. The carpeting texture on the floor was largely added to prevent people from thinking the floor was some kind of horrid abyss.
Most of all, I think I'm the proudest of how Desdemona turned out. She looks much better in color than she did in black and white. I wish I gave her a serpentine lower half, but since she's Cubi she can probably do whatever the fuck she wants. :B
I think I'll ink my pictures in Photoshop more often. Sorry, Macromedia Freehand. The layering system really helps with the coloring.
So shiiiiiiinyyyyy...
~Keaton the Black Jackal
...Awesome. Just awesome. I don't know what else to say. I am at a loss or words.
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/DanHappy.png)
Yes, that has turned out very nicely indeed. I particularly like the wood effects.
Poor Lianna...
It looks great, Keats. I like the carpet texture a lot, actually - you can definitely tell the difference when you look at the earlier iterations of the picture. The change in Lianna's sweater is also neat. :)
Desdemona frankly turned out awesome. I loves her to death. :3
completing that puzzle somehow seems to have made her disappointed..... but the hammer must have a story, cause thats one damned big hammer
Quote from: Brunhidden on June 14, 2008, 12:48:17 AM
completing that puzzle somehow seems to have made her disappointed..... but the hammer must have a story, cause thats one damned big hammer
Oh yeah, the hammer does have a backstory. >:3 Its name is "Mister Hammer," and it was Lianna's weapon when she was imprisoned in a coliseum and forced to fight on a daily basis in front of a jeering crowd of assorted Creatures and Beings. Her original weapon was a warhammer of much greater superiority in battle, but it was confiscated from her. Lianna must have Mister Hammer at least close to her at all times, because she reasons, that since the hammer was around when she was suffering the most, it is her best friend. She also thinks she can hear it talking to her, but that's really just her hallucinating. She's crazies.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hey so late to check but looking awesome Keaton
Thanks a lot for all the comments on the last picture, guys! :) I'm so glad it was really well-received. I'll probably do more pictures in that hybrid coloring style but I'll not overuse it.
In other news, oh man I found the coolest website ever. I wish these cakes delivered to Florida because then I would buy a cake for every fucking occasion. (http://www.pinkcakebox.com/)
Anyway, I figured I'd update my topic with an image to hold everything over until I'm done with most of my commissions. All four slots are filled so I'm very happy... the next time I update this art topic, it will probably be with commissionwork. >:3
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Etakor-Profiles-Dekuyaketh-88913085)
Also leads to an extremely lengthy profile containing shitloads of information about the character; read if you dare.
Time Taken:* Drawing: 2 Days
Currently Listening To: "The Howling," by Within Temptation
This is Dekuyaketh. He's an original character of mine, and considering I usually work within the DMFA-oriented universe of Furrae you guys haven't really heard much about Dekuyaketh, or his universe. But he's probably a character I'm going to end up writing a serious story about in the far, far future, after his extensive environment's been fully developed and after the basic story's been decided and written. Hopefully by that time I will have matured as a writer - or enough to really tackle the story.
Either way, Dekuyaketh's most prominent appearance is in the Honor Circle Returns RP, where he acted like a douchebag to Cogidubnus's not-so-nice priest character, got in a fight with him, and won (ha ha, Cog).
I rather like this picture of Dekuyaketh, largely because I've tried to draw him before, but because he's supposed to be extremely handsome and feminine I wasn't able to capture that. I think I did better this time around. :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Did I just see a Power Claw? Because I think I saw a Power Claw! >:3 Cool character, Keats, and great drawing!
That's an awful lot of text, Keats.
Nothing hugely obvious leaps out, since I think I've heard most of that information before...
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on June 17, 2008, 11:46:19 AM
Did I just see a Power Claw? Because I think I saw a Power Claw! >:3 Cool character, Keats, and great drawing!
Alas, I do not know what a Power Claw is. :< So the reference is lost on me. Woe is I.
Oh, but thank you very much on both accounts. :3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 17, 2008, 12:31:19 PM
That's an awful lot of text, Keats.
Nothing hugely obvious leaps out, since I think I've heard most of that information before...
Hey, I warned you in advance, dude. :B I should trim most of this stuff down and get rid of the irrelevant bits.
Though it is true. I recycled most of this stuff from Dekuyaketh's Honor Circle profile. I probably should have posted that.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You did. Both warn, and mention that you copied it from HC.
I wasn't complaining, mind, merely mentioning in passing...
He's alot...smaller...than I thought he was. I must have misread his original profile. In my head, I imagined him as a very large, heavyweight demon-thing :B
But this picture clears that up.
Not someone I'd want to meet in a dark alley.
The only slight glitch I see in this picture is that the legs are somewhat long in proportion to the body. Other than that, nice work.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on June 17, 2008, 02:05:58 PM
He's alot...smaller...than I thought he was. I must have misread his original profile. In my head, I imagined him as a very large, heavyweight demon-thing :B
But this picture clears that up.
But in actuality, he is a man so pretty that I'm surprised he wasn't born as a lady. :B Though it's easy to mistake that he'd be rather heavyweight, considering he's a Manticore, and the traditional portrayal of a Manticore is a heavyset lion with a human's head and a scorpion's tail.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 17, 2008, 02:08:14 PM
Not someone I'd want to meet in a dark alley.
The only slight glitch I see in this picture is that the legs are somewhat long in proportion to the body. Other than that, nice work.
Thank you very much. :3 I do have an explanation for the legs, though. Dekuyaketh's around 7'1" and I'm usually not terribly used to drawing characters that tall (even though I have plenty of them), so I thought I'd make his legs in proportion to his size.
I probably should have looked at some anatomy references. Like... maybe a picture of Shaquille O'Neal would have been the easiest.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Demons..WOO! :ipod
I got ShadesFox's commission finished and he gave me permission to post it. He wanted it done before Anthrocon so I ended up doing it first. :B
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-Commission-ShadesFinishedWater.jpg?t=1214001758)
Time Taken:*Drawing: 2 Days
*Inking: 1 Day
*Coloring: 2 Days
This was a really quick one. I used colored lines for this one, because that's what ShadesFox wanted - but it's mostly just visible in the pants and blue shirt. I used a new shading style; more similar to Amber's coloring style, with the multiple shades used in the colored shadows. I might use this more often.
No, I do not apologize for the watermark cluttering up the picture. >:3 Only ShadesFox gets the non-watermarked version since I'm slightly paranoid about people stealing this stuff. Granted, it's never happened before... :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 20, 2008, 06:25:22 PM
No, I do not apologize for the watermark cluttering up the picture. >:3 Only ShadesFox gets the non-watermarked version since I'm slightly paranoid about people stealing this stuff. Granted, it's never happened before... :B
... but it only takes once. :-/
Lovely pic, though, Keats.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 20, 2008, 06:42:45 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 20, 2008, 06:25:22 PM
No, I do not apologize for the watermark cluttering up the picture. >:3 Only ShadesFox gets the non-watermarked version since I'm slightly paranoid about people stealing this stuff. Granted, it's never happened before... :B
... but it only takes once. :-/
Lovely pic, though, Keats.
YOU DID NOT SEE THAT *fixes the link*
And oh, thank you :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 20, 2008, 06:25:22 PM
No, I do not apologize for the watermark cluttering up the picture. >:3 Only ShadesFox gets the non-watermarked version since I'm slightly paranoid about people stealing this stuff. Granted, it's never happened before... :B
Good likeness. As for the watermark, I'm tempted to remove it just to see if I can...
Not bad
Hee hee. Oversized sword. And a damn nice one, too :)
I like most chars who wield oversized weapons. Freakin awesome xD
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 20, 2008, 06:43:18 PM
YOU DID NOT SEE THAT *fixes the link*
See what? Was there something I should have seen?
Before I get started on more commissions, I busted out a con badge really really fast by using an already existing image I was planning on putting in an improved version of my DeviantArt ID. Fortunately I had already inked and partially colored it (the yellow parts in Keaton's fur and her hair and eyes, mostly), so I was able to wrap this up in a few hours. I even slapped a simple background on this thing because I wanted it to look neat and because, as a short, slightly chubby, and adorable seventeen year-old girl, I need some identification so people don't think I'm lying when I say that I play a psychotic and murderous black-backed jackal online.
All I need to do is bring it over to where it can be printed on some glossy paper. And I need to get some waterproof stuff and something to hang it around my neck with. I bought a broach online, but I don't think it'll arrive at my house before AC.
I have two versions of the same badge - they're essentially the same, save for the backgrounds.
CLICK HERE FOR VERSION ONE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonConBadgev1-FixedSmall.jpg?t=1214071659)
This is the version I'm going to use for AC, since it fits Keaton more.
CLICK HERE FOR VERSION TWO (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonConBadgev2-FixedSmall.jpg?t=1214073514)
I didn't like this version so much, but I figured I'd include it as a bonus.
Oh yeah, and I still need to touch the first badge up, because I seem to have forgotten the highlighting on Keaton's nose in my rush. Plus there are a number of other errors I hadn't realized before. lolwhups.
Also, I really like Keaton's outfit in this picture. I'll draw a full-body shot of it after I'm done with all the commissions.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Woah, that is one hideous expression she has there. Yes, I think you've done 'murderous and psychopathic' bit to a tee.
The only suggestion I would make is that it the titling should probably be bigger. Ideally the word 'Keaton' should be visible from a distance - right now it looks to be about the same dimensions as the name on the official badge, which you have to peer at to read.
... Unless, of course, you want strange people peering at your chest, which some people seem to...
*cough*
Incidentally, I was going to say the image looks like she's smiling at Dariyl to say that she's ok with the lollipops, thankyouverymuchnothanksIdon'twantanotherthisoneisstillfinehonestI'mok!
Or something like that.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 21, 2008, 03:01:55 PM
... Unless, of course, you want strange people peering at your chest, which some people seem to...
She's 17... they'd shove you in the incinerator before you can say "Due Process" :paranoid
QuoteIncidentally, I was going to say the image looks like she's smiling at Dariyl to say that she's ok with the lollipops, thankyouverymuchnothanksIdon'twantanotherthisoneisstillfinehonestI'mok!
That is an interesting take on it, though I'd say she looks a little too belligerent for that. If the eyebrows were going the other way, yes, she'd look kind of panicked.
Incidentally, this may be useful: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Conbadge
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 21, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 21, 2008, 03:01:55 PM
... Unless, of course, you want strange people peering at your chest, which some people seem to...
She's 17... they'd shove you in the incinerator before you can say "Due Process" :paranoid
Unless you're 21, in which case you are in the 5 year buffer and should be okay.
Still, I must agree with the 'the words are not large enough' sentiment. Most people won't be able to make that out at all.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 21, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 21, 2008, 03:01:55 PM
... Unless, of course, you want strange people peering at your chest, which some people seem to...
She's 17... they'd shove you in the incinerator before you can say "Due Process" :paranoid
Not me. I won't be there. (not that I make it through the 21 year thing, anyway)
Besides, anyone wearing writing on their chest is asking for someone to bend over and read it... That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. ;-]
Quote from: ShadesFox on June 21, 2008, 03:30:34 PM
Still, I must agree with the 'the words are not large enough' sentiment. Most people won't be able to make that out at all.
Hm. Thanks for the suggestions on the words, guys. I fixed it in the adjusted version, but my Internet's giving me some trouble and I'm still working on it so that way the badge is satisfactory, so I won't upload the improved badge until later.
By the way, Tape, thanks for the link to that Wiki article on con badges. This is pretty helpful, and I'll be mulling over the article all night. XD Hopefully I'll be thoroughly prepared before the 26th rolls around.
Also, to not give people an excuse to stare at my chest, I'll probably attach the badge to my hat or something :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Attach it to the back of your neck.
That way they have an excuse for watching you leave. ;-]
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-KeatonConBadge-FixedSmall.jpg?t=1214142617)
Allllrighty. I fixed the words on the badge and touched things up a little. The title is much larger now; hopefully it's easier to see.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Better. I still think that it should be more like this:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Image:05_Keaton.png
i.e. 'KEATON' in large lettering and ("the Black Jackal") underneath in smaller type.
This is what I did for mine:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/tw_badge.png
...the emphasis on having the lettering clearly legible from a distance.
Not having a laminator I sized it to fit inside a CD envelope. It attaches with a safety-pin.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 22, 2008, 10:16:59 AM
Better. I still think that it should be more like this:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Image:05_Keaton.png
i.e. 'KEATON' in large lettering and ("the Black Jackal") underneath in smaller type.
This is what I did for mine:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/tw_badge.png
...the emphasis on having the lettering clearly legible from a distance.
Not having a laminator I sized it to fit inside a CD envelope. It attaches with a safety-pin.
Huh, I hadn't tried that. I'll give that a try; besides, it'll give my actual name more room so I can make it larger.
*breaks out the Wacom tablet again*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Neeeeeeeeeeat!. :] The smile looks totally disarming. As in "Keaton will disarm you by cutting your arms off". >:3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on June 22, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
Neeeeeeeeeeat!. :] The smile looks totally disarming. As in "Keaton will disarm you by cutting your arms off". >:3
Thank youuuu! :) One of these days I will draw Keaton smiling in genuine happiness. Preferably while eating a marshmallow peep, because she loves those.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 22, 2008, 11:42:20 AM
Thank youuuu! :) One of these days I will draw Keaton smiling in genuine happiness. Preferably while eating a marshmallow peep, because she loves those.
... preferably in the shape of the person she's smiling at, just to rub it in. ;-]
Much <3 for Keaton's art. My 2 cents. :boogie *lurklurklurk*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 22, 2008, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 22, 2008, 11:42:20 AM
Thank youuuu! :) One of these days I will draw Keaton smiling in genuine happiness. Preferably while eating a marshmallow peep, because she loves those.
... preferably in the shape of the person she's smiling at, just to rub it in. ;-]
I was thinking they'd be in the shape of those little chickies, but sure, we'll go with that. ;)
Quote from: Wildy on June 23, 2008, 12:21:33 PM
Much <3 for Keaton's art. My 2 cents. :boogie *lurklurklurk*
Aww, thank you! :hug Thanks for coming out of your lurker-status momentarily, as well, to give your input. :3 I'm really flattered. :boogie
~Keaton the Black Jackal
pffftt... Its all true. Keep learning. You have a lot of nice detail in your work. I look for your name and new arts when I do come back to this art thread. Not that I'm any big art critic or anything. I can't do the stuff you guys can. ;)
But I like your style and your incredible detail. :ipod
Quote from: Wildy on June 24, 2008, 02:24:33 AM
pffftt... Its all true. Keep learning. You have a lot of nice detail in your work. I look for your name and new arts when I do come back to this art thread. Not that I'm any big art critic or anything. I can't do the stuff you guys can. ;)
But I like your style and your incredible detail. :ipod
Thank you very, very much! :> Honestly, I don't think there's ever going to be a time when I stop learning. I mean, I'm really satisfied with my artwork, but I really want to always improve. I want to learn realism, actually, since experimenting with charcoal at an art class was really fun and I think doing some more things would be great. Again, thank you very much. <3 I think seeing this comment was a great way to start off my day.
I just hope there isn't a storm for the seventh time in a row this week like there has been for the past few days. *cue ಠ_ಠ face* There are starving forests in California which need weather, and yet we get all of it. Yeesh.
Anyway, thank you very much, again. <3 I can't thank you enough. c: I will make more and more artwork. *joins in the :ipod dance*
Delicious cake for everyone! (http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/180/5/5/Topsy_Turvy_Quinceanera_Cake_by_pinkcakebox.jpg)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hm. I'm still working on commissions (I didn't forget them!), and they're coming along
very slowly, but I'm not complaining. It's a lot of fun, especially since I'm experimenting with new techniques. Since I'm in North Carolina and don't have access to a scanner, I decided to post up a request I owed Zedd for a long time. You know, to keep the art topic afloat and all. Already colored and shaded it a while back.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/RobinColored.jpg?t=1216063326)
Time Taken:* Drawing: Too long
* Inking: 1 Day
* Coloring: Delayed because of dramaz
Currently Listening To: "Inside the Fire," by Disturbed
I finished the lineart while I was at AC, then gave it to Zedd in person. He asked me to color it, so I went ahead and did it after the typical procrastination. It was a bit delayed, but I'm happy that all of my requests are out of the way so I can dedicate time to commissions.
Zedd also told me to remind you all that Robin isn't wearing lipstick. That is his natural lip color.
From here on out, I'm going to be experimenting with a new coloring style Mystique gave me a tutorial for (http://kuitsuku.deviantart.com/art/Photoshop-Lineart-Coloring-Tut-56907784), so if all goes well with that coloring style, this might be the last time I use my sloppy black shadow-style.
A very simple picture, but I... mostly like how it turned out, especially since his character is insanely hard to draw. I dislike the pose. I'll see if I can draw Zedd a better picture next time.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Oh dont worry your little noggin. I loved the outcome neverless :D
*0* teh awesome!!!
and i'm betting ur previous stuff was teh shizz...i jus' don't wanna backread 8D;;; *lazy*
heh, zedd must have scored some brownie points to earn that one
It's amazing to look at some of the earlier images that you've got and the ones you've got now. You've definitely improved alot! Makes me wish I had some artistic talent!
The only critique I can give is that something just feels flat about your images. I'm not sure what it is exactly because I've got no artistic talent what-so-ever but it's there. Either way I love the colors, I love the poses and styles, and I just over all love the work. (Particularly that one of Tira, she's my favorite char from SC:III)
Quote from: Zedd on July 14, 2008, 03:33:20 PM
Oh dont worry your little noggin. I loved the outcome neverless :D
Heh, I'm glad you did, Zedd. Hopefully I can draw you something a little more impressive in the future, though.
Quote from: Xze-Xze on July 15, 2008, 09:39:02 PM
*0* teh awesome!!!
and i'm betting ur previous stuff was teh shizz...i jus' don't wanna backread 8D;;; *lazy*
Hey Xze, it's good to see you again! I haven't seen you comment on my work in a while.
Also, thank you XD I'm not pressuring you to backread, though. Take your time with that. There's a lot of stuff, so that would be a bit tedious.
Quote from: Brunhidden on July 16, 2008, 01:12:33 AM
heh, zedd must have scored some brownie points to earn that one
I actually have really owed him this for a long time, but yeah, he has all sorts of brownie points. :3
Quote from: Mowser on July 16, 2008, 11:49:40 AM
It's amazing to look at some of the earlier images that you've got and the ones you've got now. You've definitely improved alot! Makes me wish I had some artistic talent!
The only critique I can give is that something just feels flat about your images. I'm not sure what it is exactly because I've got no artistic talent what-so-ever but it's there. Either way I love the colors, I love the poses and styles, and I just over all love the work. (Particularly that one of Tira, she's my favorite char from SC:III)
Omigod critique! *loves all over it*
Thank you so much for the comment, dude. This was... extremely helpful, and gives me a reason to look at some of my images from a new perspective. Hopefully the new shading style I'm going to be experimenting with will help my pictures appear less flat, but this is still slightly surprising. Gives me something to try and improve. A good friend of mine had always encouraged me to use colored outlines for my work because he thought it would make my work "pop out" more... so it could be the black outlines which are creating the flatness.
I'm so glad you love everything, though. :tighthug Thank you for all of the lovely compliments. I'm also thrilled to meet another Tira fan, because she seems to be one of the more unappreciated of the Soulcalibur characters, whereas I looove her.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I'm glad it was helpful. I'm always worried when I critique work that I'm going to offend/hurt the feelings of the artist. :< I really can't wait to see some samples of the new shading style! PM me when you do to make sure that I don't miss it!
Quote from: Mowser on July 16, 2008, 02:03:47 PM
I'm glad it was helpful. I'm always worried when I critique work that I'm going to offend/hurt the feelings of the artist. :< I really can't wait to see some samples of the new shading style! PM me when you do to make sure that I don't miss it!
Nah, I have pretty thick skin when it comes to critique. Largely because I always strive to improve my artwork, and hearing others' opinions really helps.
And thank you very much! :tighthug I'll be sure to send you a sample when I'm done with it. I should probably practice on a smaller image, but I'm using a fairly large one, and a commission to boot. Hence, it might take a while. :<
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If it helps any, I did some looking around your DA site and I found a two pictures that I definitely did not find flat at all: I believe it was the "Are you Challenging Me?" here (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/74-Are-You-Challenging-Me-79432440) and and the "Out Cold" here. (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/84-Out-Cold-86427776)
Maybe there's something you're doing differently in these two than you usually do?
Quote from: Mowser on July 17, 2008, 12:57:55 PM
If it helps any, I did some looking around your DA site and I found a two pictures that I definitely did not find flat at all: I believe it was the "Are you Challenging Me?" here (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/74-Are-You-Challenging-Me-79432440) and and the "Out Cold" here. (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/84-Out-Cold-86427776)
Maybe there's something you're doing differently in these two than you usually do?
Welllll... Those are in black and white, but I used some types of shading in that picture. Basically, by coloring in some parts with pencil. That's probably why things look a bit more three-dimensional. Some people tend to like my pencil shading for some reason.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Might have something to do with it being good. :D At this rate, I'm going to have to look into possibly getting a forum sig and avatar commissioned out of you!
Quote from: Mowser on July 17, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
Might have something to do with it being good. :D At this rate, I'm going to have to look into possibly getting a forum sig and avatar commissioned out of you!
Hehe. Well thank you! :3 And honestly, I would really enjoy that, considering I've never made a signature/avatar set before - but that's probably a discussion reserved for PMs. X3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
i thought you did the sig for xze xze, and there was someone i thought had your work as an avatar but i don't know who
Quote from: Brunhidden on July 17, 2008, 08:12:21 PM
i thought you did the sig for xze xze, and there was someone i thought had your work as an avatar but i don't know who
I did the picture in the sig for Xze-Xze, but I think Haz actually made the picture into a sig. He also worked on my avatar :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Yar. Keaton did the Pic, and i -think- Haz made teh sig |D i'll ask him tomorrow
Yes, I made the sig. Not too proud of it, in retrospect, but what artist likes old art? :razz I also used to have an avatar I made, myself, using a drawing of Keats' and I made Keats' current, and previous avatar (without the pimp hat), and . Speaking of avatars for Keats: It's a Keaton... on a steeek. (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/Keatsicle_002.png) :3
Oh, and awesome arts, as always, Keats! :O
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on July 19, 2008, 06:37:29 PM
Yes, I made the sig. Not too proud of it, in retrospect, but what artist likes old art? :razz I also used to have an avatar I made, myself, using a drawing of Keats' and I made Keats' current, and previous avatar (without the pimp hat), and . Speaking of avatars for Keats: It's a Keaton... on a steeek. (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/xXHaZxMaTXx/Keatsicle_002.png) :3
Oh my god.
That is the most amazing thing ever.
*wears avatar like a badge of pride* :3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
that stick looks uncomfortable
Yeah, but it could be in a much.. much more uncomfortable spot.
Second of god-knows-how-many commissions finished. Starting on the next one once I get some drawings out of the way...
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Laertes-93097892)
Time Taken:* Everything: FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
Currently Listening To: "Bad Girlfriend," by Theory of a Deadman
Click the link above for a more detailed description. Right now I'm a little bit tired, so I'm not in my most talkative of moods.
All I can really say is that yes, this is the new shading style I mentioned in an earlier post. If you want to know more about it, you can find a link to the tutorial in the description of the picture above. The picture is of Laertes, Cogidubnus's character.
Yes, you all have to put up with another annoying watermark. I made this one more foolproof than the previous one!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
*heaps praise upon the black backed Jackal*
*concurs with the Armored Wolf Incubus*
Wow, I've got to look at some of your other stuff. That was awesome!
I can't resolve it at the moment and anyway, I'm a little twitchy about visiting DA at work, but I'll definitely check it out tonight.
.....wow....
Got it. That is superb. The watermark is kind of annoying, but definitely harder to remove.
He's going to make a nasty hole in the carpet if his arm tires and he loses his grip on the weapon, though...
Don't think there's anything I could say that I haven't already, Keats. I'm extremely pleased with it. :3
*Cough*EveryoneshouldgivealltheirmoneytoKeaton*cough*. :B
*rummages pockets, finds 37 cents and a stick of gum*
well, there goes my groceries...
Quote from: Cogidubnus on July 29, 2008, 10:19:21 AM
*Cough*EveryoneshouldgivealltheirmoneytoKeaton*cough*. :B
Everyone should give me money and sex. (http://badlydrawnkitties.com/comics/20080107.html) </BDK reference>
Still, I'm really glad you liked the picture, Cog. :3 And I'm really glad that a lot of other people liked it as well. Thank you all so much, everyone!
Yes, I'm not addressing the comments individually. I just can't write today. :c
~Keaton the Black Jackal
:D
I love the finished product! Quite the devious smile mixed in with what, to me, looks like an almost bemused look. Quite nice.
Question/Criticism time:
I'm wondering about the light on the clothing a bit with relation to the shadows thrown by the table/chair. They don't seem to match up unless there's more than one light source. Is that it? There's dark spots on the clothes that should be hit by the light (example, and a spot on the knee on the left side that should be in the light if the shine on the pants and furniture shadows are any indications).
Anyway, sorry I'm always yangin' on ya about this. It does look excellent and from the seems of it, Cogi loves it. So.. would just money be acceptable? ;-)
Quote from: Mowser on July 29, 2008, 11:10:20 AM
So.. would just money be acceptable? ;-)
What, is "cute" not your type? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2008, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: Mowser on July 29, 2008, 11:10:20 AM
So.. would just money be acceptable? ;-)
What, is "cute" not your type? ;-]
Cute is fine by me. 9 years younger however, not so much. :P Makes me feel like a pervy old man just talking about it.
Consider yourself lucky. She's less than half my age. :-/
... Scuse me while I get out my zimmerframe.
In about two months, I'll be four years older than her.
Okay, this is just getting weird. Let's get back to her art!
Again, really nice. I'm sorry that you need to use such a large watermark to protect your work.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2008, 12:43:56 PM
Consider yourself lucky. She's less than half my age. :-/
... Scuse me while I get out my zimmerframe.
Hmm.. maybe you should commission Keats to do a picture of a box and a walker (zimmerframe).
Quote from: Mowser on July 29, 2008, 11:10:20 AM
:D
I love the finished product! Quite the devious smile mixed in with what, to me, looks like an almost bemused look. Quite nice.
Question/Criticism time:
I'm wondering about the light on the clothing a bit with relation to the shadows thrown by the table/chair. They don't seem to match up unless there's more than one light source. Is that it? There's dark spots on the clothes that should be hit by the light (example, and a spot on the knee on the left side that should be in the light if the shine on the pants and furniture shadows are any indications).
Anyway, sorry I'm always yangin' on ya about this. It does look excellent and from the seems of it, Cogi loves it. So.. would just money be acceptable? ;-)
Ah, I've mentioned this before, but the light source is
supposed to be coming from directly above the character. However, with my incompetence (:P) at light sources and shadow/highlighting placement, the light source appears to be originating from the top-left. Weird.
It's really no problem, given any and all advice is
definitely appreciated. It's how I (try to) improve. I'm really glad you like the picture, so thank you. :) Also, money is still acceptable; I was kidding about the money and sex thing and I just wanted an opportunity to quote BDK.
Quote from: Jairus on July 29, 2008, 12:47:39 PM
Again, really nice. I'm sorry that you need to use such a large watermark to protect your work.
It's not really a necessity, given nobody's ever tried to steal my artwork before (thank GOD), but because this is a commission I wanted to be
very careful. Plus, my last watermark was pretty easily-removed so I decided to be a bit more thorough. The better option would have been to not post this at all, but I was so proud of the results that I wanted to show off the image.
Cog has the non-watermarked version.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2008, 12:43:56 PM
Consider yourself lucky. She's less than half my age. :-/
... Scuse me while I get out my zimmerframe.
Oddly, the first thing that came to mind was "llearch is ooooooooold."
The second thing was "what's a zimmerframe?" :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2008, 01:05:50 PM
Ah, I've mentioned this before, but the light source is supposed to be coming from directly above the character. However, with my incompetence (:P) at light sources and shadow/highlighting placement, the light source appears to be originating from the top-left. Weird.
Nah ah! None of that! As a critic of your work, I'll decide when you get called incompetent. This is
not one of those occasions.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2008, 01:05:50 PM
The second thing was "what's a zimmerframe?" :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I answered that one in my post. We know it as a walker.
It took me awhile to finally realize the significance of "walker"...
Very nice, Keat. What's the IV on the (I'm guessing that it's) wine? Just a random four?
I think this is my first time in this thread, so I'll say this here, I love your keaton-face signiture.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2008, 01:05:50 PM
It's not really a necessity, given nobody's ever tried to steal my artwork before (thank GOD), but because this is a commission I wanted to be very careful. Plus, my last watermark was pretty easily-removed so I decided to be a bit more thorough. The better option would have been to not post this at all, but I was so proud of the results that I wanted to show off the image.
Well, it just makes it more of a challenge >:3
I kid, the gradient shading would make this a bit of a problem to de-mark.
Yay shiny wepon. Yay gradients. Yay Photoshop filters. Yay... umm, all sorts of stuff. :O 'Tis fanceh and shiny and awesome, Keats! The lighting/shading looks kind weird, though. :U Like someone took a flash-photograph.
Now go make me a sammich.
:U T3h awesome. I know I don't frequent this thread, but when I do visit, I am always glad I did. Amazing work, Keaton! (claps)
Thanks for the lovely compliments and critiques on the last picture, everyone. ♥ I'm definitely going to stick with this gradient-shading style. Expect moar commissions in the future.
But unfortunately, my scanner's still broken. I need to keep my art topic alive. So I figured I'd do some forays into PHOTOGRAPHY! 8D
IMPROMPTU MOTH PICTURE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Sun-Moth-95603857)
...or not. Damn, this is an awful picture compared to what professionals and people who are remotely skilled can do. I didn't even manipulate this in Photoshop (but I will crop it later). I just wanted to take a picture of this amazing moth since it looked absolutely incredible. I can't find what species it is on Wikipedia, either, so if anyone recognizes the moth's species, please tell me. I'm starting to think it's not indigenous to Florida, because I've never seen any of these before in my life.
Thanks to Mowser for helping me get this thing transferred from my phone. :3
I figured this little guy would make something interesting to keep my art topic afloat.
Oh yeah, you can see me in the window's reflection. How about that, huh?
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Neat moth. Looks fluffy, too. :3
Nice, vivid colouring. Looks a bit like a leaf, which is probably the idea, so to speak.
Can I eat it? :U
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2008, 06:53:06 PM
Nice, vivid colouring. Looks a bit like a leaf, which is probably the idea, so to speak.
I keep forgetting how effective vibrant colors can be in terms of camouflage. Before you brought this up, I thought the moth would stick out like a sore thumb to any birds.
Quote from: ShadesFox on August 21, 2008, 07:52:44 PM
Can I eat it? :U
NO >:O
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Luminous is not generally a word I associate with moths. Fuzzy, perhaps. Hueg, often. Orange, however, not so much.
Tropical Keaton-moths have, however, proved that they can be as bright and happy as any darn butterfly.
Go, bright moth. Fly with wings brighter than the sun. *epic manly tear* :C
It's a pretty moth... or it would have been if Shades hadn't eaten it. *glares*
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 21, 2008, 08:57:02 PM
Go, bright moth. Fly with wings brighter than the sun. *epic manly tear* :C
It takes a real man to say something that awesome about a mere moth. :C One note, though: not
bright moth, but
Bright Moth.
Quote from: ShadesFox on August 21, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
Too late
*bits of moth hang out of his mouth.*
*inhales*
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'A' Why, moth? Why did your life had to end like that?? What about your promises to fly of forever? WHYYYYYYYYYY???????
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on August 21, 2008, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on August 21, 2008, 08:57:02 PM
Go, bright moth. Fly with wings brighter than the sun. *epic manly tear* :C
It takes a real man to say something that awesome about a mere moth. :C One note, though: not bright moth, but Bright Moth.
Agreed. That was beautiful.
Quote from: ShadesFox on August 21, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
Too late
*bits of moth hang out of his mouth.*
*inhales*
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'A' Why, moth? Why did your life had to end like that?? What about your promises to fly of forever? WHYYYYYYYYYY???????[/quote]
Worry not, Ren Gaulen! We shall avenge his untimely passing! Stand firm, and draw blades to take the battle to Shades!
Quote from: Jairus on August 21, 2008, 09:14:15 PM
Worry not, Ren Gaulen! We shall avenge his untimely passing! Stand firm, and draw blades to take the battle to Shades!
*draws a sword*
Bright Moth shall not be forgotten! His death shall not be forgiven!! This crime shall not go unpunished!!! CHESTOOOOOO!!!!!! *cleaves a random rock in half* Ooh, that was therapeutic!
Nice pic, Keats. You have scanner troubles too? It bites, doesn't it?
Are you plannning on doing any fixin's to it or leaving it as is?
Quote from: Pagan on August 21, 2008, 09:23:53 PM
Nice pic, Keats. You have scanner troubles too? It bites, doesn't it?
Are you plannning on doing any fixin's to it or leaving it as is?
We actually just fixed it :3 Dad got a replacement today and we installed the appropriate software. Took us forever, but my new baby scans excellently.
Expect lots of shinies soon, everyo--...
...
There seems to be a miniature army consisting of Ren and Jairus off to avenge the death of my moth. That's amazing.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 21, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
There seems to be a miniature army consisting of Ren and Jairus off to avenge the death of my moth. That's amazing.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
We shall not abandon you, Keaton! I shall lend you my sword!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 21, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
There seems to be a miniature army consisting of Ren and Jairus off to avenge the death of my moth. That's amazing.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If I had a sword, it would be at your side! As it is, you can merely have my fists. But they are at your side regardless!
PS: It's fun talking like this.
*Wields a mighty laser pointer.*
*Shines it at Ren and Jairus*
Just give it a moment. Ordinance packages from space take a bit to arrive.
*The whole time he is licking his lips, trying to get that last bit of moth off.*
Ren! He's here!
School of the Undefeated of the North!
The Winds of the King!
Zenshin!
Wait, we're doing it wrong. I should have said "Ultimate Technique".. Damn.
*is sitting back munching on a bowl of popcorn*
Haaaa! You ruined it.
*slams to a screeching halt and runs headfirst into a wall*
Skip the first part! Go straight the attack!
Erupting...
Burning!..
Sandwich!
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
You know, we should probably open our own retarded RP in the Haunted Ballroom to do this stuff. :B
It'd be the most amazing thing since the three-way brawl between Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Conan O'Brien.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: ShadesFox on August 21, 2008, 10:03:28 PM
Sandwich!
Shut up!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 21, 2008, 10:04:39 PM
You know, we should probably open our own retarded RP in the Haunted Ballroom to do this stuff. :B
Really? You think? I'm no good at RPs: I either get bored or turn into a munchkin, and a munchkin with super moves is a
very bad thing.Anyway...
Sekiha...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 21, 2008, 10:04:39 PM
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
You know, we should probably open our own retarded RP in the Haunted Ballroom to do this stuff. :B
It'd be the most amazing thing since the three-way brawl between Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Conan O'Brien.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Agreed. I think we took our revenge for Bright Moth's death too far. He would not want all that violence. He was always against the violence.. *sob*
Call off the attack, Jay! This will not bring Bright Moth back!
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on August 21, 2008, 10:07:27 PM
Agreed. I think we took our revenge for Bright Moth's death too far. He would not want all that violence. He was always against the violence.. *sob* Call off the attack, Jay! This will not bring Bright Moth back!
You're right... violence is not the answer. We must respect his wishes and what he would have wanted us to do. We salute you, Bright Moth!
Hey Ren, one of us could name a ship in our story the "Bright Moth" in his honor!
If you will not avenge the moth, then avenge your own knee caps!
*gets out a tire iron.*
Quote from: ShadesFox on August 21, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
If you will not avenge the moth, then avenge your own knee caps!
*gets out a tire iron.*
I would strongly recommend against it, good sir...
What? You're not one of those Star Trek VI aliens are you?
No, but if you don't put the tyre iron down, I'll go Dakota Lesmercy on you. Only with less mercy...
Just kidding. >:]
So.... How about that fixed scanner? Sweetness. More goodies from the Keats.
Quote from: Mowser on August 22, 2008, 08:32:21 AM
So.... How about that fixed scanner? Sweetness. More goodies from the Keats.
I have it on good authority that the replacement scanner is working very well.
*borrows the tire iron and applies it to the back of Ren and Jubblies' heads*
"Bad boys. No cookie. Stay unconscious."
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 22, 2008, 08:38:36 AM
I have it on good authority that the replacement scanner is working very well.
Sweet.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 22, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
*borrows the tire iron and applies it to the back of Ren and Jubblies' heads*
"Bad boys. No cookie. Stay unconscious."
...
Sweet.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 22, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
*borrows the tire iron and applies it to the back of Ren and Jubblies' heads*
"Bad boys. No cookie. Stay unconscious."
No thanks. I've already almost fractured my skull one time in my life, and that was one time too many. Keep the tire iron away from my head, or I retaliate with "Mail to Dubai" stickers. Then again, it depends on what kind of cookie they are... if they're coconut I'll gladly stay down.
Still a pretty moth.
...that last picture was insane. XD Alright, here we go. Shinies that I promised since my replacement scanner is working perfectly.
Boy am I feeling wonky. I woke up at 5:40 AM and couldn't get back to sleep.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-AzraelInked.jpg?t=1219586804)
Time Taken:Drawing: I forgot
Inking: 3 hours
One of my quickest inking works so far. I'm currently working on coloring this, but you'll all only get to see it when Tape posts that page of Future History >:3
Actually, this picture has already been posted in Future History, but it was taken from a crappy low-resolution image I took using a digital camera. Tape also did the coloring and inking in that picture because I typically only ink a picture when it has a high resolution. Fortunately, my new scanner has some pretty serious resolution capacities.
This picture, in particular, has something slightly new. I figured out there's an easy way to make the lines a bit more funky-looking and dynamic by tapering them slightly, so I used this method in the creases of Azrael's clothing and his whiskers. I might incorporate that tapered-line, dynamic style into future pictures by spreading the style to the rest of the lineart. However, it might be fairly time-consuming.
Blah. There are a few issues I have with this picture; particularly Azrael's legs and their alignment with his hips, but I tried to fix it to the best of my ability. Doing anymore would have made the picture look too awkward.
As a note, his tail looks a bit weird in this version of the picture but I improved it. You'll all see it in the colored version.
The creases in his clothing look a bit heavy in B/W; I presume they'll balance out better once it's coloured...
Other than that, there's an awfully smug look on his face...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2008, 12:24:30 PM
Other than that, there's an awfully smug look on his face...
I noticed that, but I let it pass. If I can leave the readership dead confused about whether he's good or evil, I'll be very happy.
I liked it. ;-]
That whole "I know something you don't" look.
Admittedly, that's not really Azrael, but I'd expect him to be somewhat knowledgeable...
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2008, 12:24:30 PM
Other than that, there's an awfully smug look on his face...
I noticed that, but I let it pass. If I can leave the readership dead confused about whether he's good or evil, I'll be very happy.
It's the structure of his mouth, I swear :< I rarely draw felines with mouths like his, but I ended up doing it to make him look more like a snow leopard.
As for Llearch's comment, darn. I just realized what you meant - this'll probably be improved in the future, if I adopt that style of inking the creases as something to expand to the other lines. When I think about it, while it'd look really good, it would make the character stand out a bit too much. My artwork isn't exactly the pinnacle of realism (ahahahahahahaha etc) but thin lines tend to lend itself more to the picture by making the characters more background-friendly. Maybe I'll save thick lines for chibis and cartoony artwork.
That's a cool kitty
I can't wait to see the colored version! Hmm.. this means I'm going to have to pay you soon, doesn't it? :S
Quote from: Mowser on August 24, 2008, 07:53:55 PM
I can't wait to see the colored version! Hmm.. this means I'm going to have to pay you soon, doesn't it? :S
Actually that's not my commission, if that's what you're thinking. It was intended to be guest-art for my webcomic to cover for while Ren was off, but a series of technical hitches meant we had to settle for a low-res photograph of it until Keaton could get her scanner replaced.
while i do like it, i sadly have to critisize it a little
unlike most of your other characters who seem to be a whole person this looks more like an animal head stuck on a human body
also, the jacket seems like its tight on a very thin person and yet is bigger then the torso, this boggles me
dosent sound like 'good job' but trust me, it is
why does my daughter smell like tuna? not relavent, but when your 3 day old smells like a fish nobody in the house eats it really puzzles you
Quote from: Brunhidden on August 25, 2008, 10:46:55 AM
while i do like it, i sadly have to critisize it a little
unlike most of your other characters who seem to be a whole person this looks more like an animal head stuck on a human body
also, the jacket seems like its tight on a very thin person and yet is bigger then the torso, this boggles me
dosent sound like 'good job' but trust me, it is
why does my daughter smell like tuna? not relavent, but when your 3 day old smells like a fish nobody in the house eats it really puzzles you
OH NO! It's my arch nemesis - CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! :cry I'll never draw again.
...I'm just shitting you. I'm perfectly alright with this. :3
I think I do have some explanation as to why the animal features look so conflicted. Lately I've been trying to make my anthropomorphic characters resemble their animal counterparts, so I tried to incorporate more traits of a snow leopard into the artwork. As I've told Tapewolf, one of the reasons I admire Amber's artwork is that she draws furries in a distinct style, yet makes individuals recognizable as his or her specific species. But I don't want to rip off Amber's style, so I've been juggling around a style of my own.
This is my first time drawing a snow leopard, so I did get some things wrong. This will probably improve as time goes on - the fact you can't really see where Azrael's neck connects with his head kind of worsens the situation :B
As another note, I really didn't mean to make Azrael look so thin. I have a horrible habit of drawing my characters in a far too thin way and I reaaaaaaaaally hate it. :animesweat I'm hoping on taking art classes in the future, but finding a good one and getting through my mother's/my own procrastination isn't helping. Usually I can thicken the body when I draw some curves on the character, which is why I like drawing girls so much, but with guys... I don't know what to do with them. Clothes interfere a
lot with how I draw anatomy, which is why I like to draw naked bodies first (without the naughty stuff), then the clothing.
I hope this was of some explanation behind why those errors are there. :B I'll try and keep all of these things in mind when I experiment with my art. This is probably more incentive to get art classes. As for your bebe-daughter, it's probably just the scent of
love. Or the scent of being submersed in a womb for several months.
I find that for males, it's best if you use the shoulders/chest as a reference for how big the rest of the torso is going to be. If the chest/shoulders are small, the body is small. If you think the body might be too small, redraw the chest/shoulders and work your way down.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 25, 2008, 12:38:46 PM
(without the naughty stuff)
Pfft... booooooring. ;)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 25, 2008, 12:38:46 PM
As for your bebe-daughter, it's probably just the scent of love. Or the scent of being submersed in a womb for several months.
And that is why I've stayed single for so long. :blarf Brought new meaning to the phrase: "love stinks".
Quote from: Mowser on August 25, 2008, 01:24:50 PM
I find that for males, it's best if you use the shoulders/chest as a reference for how big the rest of the torso is going to be. If the chest/shoulders are small, the body is small. If you think the body might be too small, redraw the chest/shoulders and work your way down.
... *thiiiiiinks*
I'll need to keep this in mind. I always have trouble with keeping the shoulders/chest proportionate to the head, so maybe if I fiddle around with this, I'll be doinitrite. >:3 Thanks!
another helpful how to would be to get a lot of pictures of men wearing little to no clothes to see how the proportions are
however i know you mostly draw women, in which case largely its the features and addons such as bosoms and hips that make a girl look more fleshed out then a mans muscular framework
also, somehow, this encourages you to look at pictures of women wearing not much
and yes, theres naked people who are not porn
i do like the idea that you are trying to improve to make your characters more recognizable, heavens know ive seen so many people who draw everybody the same, or their art palate seems to be the cast of sonic the hedgehog with swapped colors. however try to keep your own style, what threw me off is that the head didn't look YOU per say, maybe stick with a more gradual evolution or find other ways to suggest what the species is. zedd has been taking me on tours of FA, and ive seen some really cool anthros where the face looks practically human, and yet looks better and more recognizable then some of the far more feral ones.
mia briefly smelling like tuna is the least of the mysteries i have to face, and vagina farts during delivery is one of the unsubtle cachophy of smells they never warn you of for childbirth.
its a great experience though, i suggest you try it someday
Ahhh, there's nothing like a good ol' shot of reality in the afternoon to shake of the shackles of mind numbing work. Thanks Brun.
I must say I enjoy your style of art. Simple yet very nice pictures, and the hair and eyes make many of them look both cute and, if needed, intimidating. great wings overall too. :januscat
Niiiiiice. I love the inks.
Also, I much understand the attempt to emulate more realistic anatomy, I'm working on that myself. Loooots of google image searches for animals. The upside is that it looks less like stereotypical anime. The downside is that it looks more like disney. (I'm having the same problem... :B)
If I could say tho... those wings don't even look remotely realistic. There's a lot about Amber's style I love, but feathery wings are not one of them. Of course, I've found wings harder to draw then feet, hands, and faces combined. So, there you go.
Anyway. My 2c
Hey, new people responding in my thread! :) Hi there!
Quote from: Lysander on September 01, 2008, 10:52:49 AM
I must say I enjoy your style of art. Simple yet very nice pictures, and the hair and eyes make many of them look both cute and, if needed, intimidating. great wings overall too. :januscat
Heh, thank you very much, dude. I'm really glad you like my style; it's still very much under development and subject to change but I'm kind of proud of it. I hope to see you around in the thread a lot more often. >:3
QuoteNiiiiiice. I love the inks.
Also, I much understand the attempt to emulate more realistic anatomy, I'm working on that myself. Loooots of google image searches for animals. The upside is that it looks less like stereotypical anime. The downside is that it looks more like disney. (I'm having the same problem... :B)
If I could say tho... those wings don't even look remotely realistic. There's a lot about Amber's style I love, but feathery wings are not one of them. Of course, I've found wings harder to draw then feet, hands, and faces combined. So, there you go.
Anyway. My 2c
You can probably add me to the list of people who have thanked you for the brutal, savage, raking-over-the-coals feedback of my art now. >:3 This was actually very helpful advice, particularly about the wings. Something I've been concerned about is emulating too much of Amber's style, and while she's one of my artistic influences, I don't want to totally imitate her style. Ever since you mentioned this thing about the wings I've been looking up pictures of wing anatomy and have a few pictures saved on my hard drive. Since I've been trying to make my animals more resembling their feral counterparts, it'd probably make more sense if I were to make my style of wings realistic as well.
I should probably do some test sketches once I'm done with a certain commission.
Speaking of test sketches, I made this during school when I had some paper and a pencil as a small interlude from commissions, since I didn't have what I had so far on hand.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-PiixBody2.jpg?t=1221322664)
This is a quick sketch of Piix, one of my original characters. Her markings haven't been added yet so she isn't immediately recognizable, especially since I altered some physical aspects of her appearance to make her look more like an alien creature. The last time I drew her she looked too skinny, so I decided to try again. Paladin really likes Piix, anyway, and paid me to design an outfit for her, so this was a good opportunity. >:3
This figure will have clothing drawn on it, later, but I figured the anatomy was good enough to show off on the forums. This was a bit of an attempt to finally draw a woman without making her look like an emaciated twig. What do you guys think? Am I doing it right? Am I doing it wrong?
Since I really need any and all advice on improving my anatomy, constructive criticism is encouraged for this picture.
Nice one, Keats. Actually, Piix doesn't look very "alien" because of the very human-like anatomy. :P But it looks great. I haven't mentioned it before, but many of the characters you have drawn before look like they were born and lived in the low gravity environment (very tall and thin). :B With Piix you moved in the right direction in terms of the body and limbs proportions. And I can't wait to see Piix coloured - your colouring is always great. :3
Wasn't Piix supposed to have spines or spikes on her back or something? Or am I thinking of something else? :B
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 13, 2008, 12:39:05 PM
Nice one, Keats. Actually, Piix doesn't look very "alien" because of the very human-like anatomy. :P But it looks great. I haven't mentioned it before, but many of the characters you have drawn before look like they were born and lived in the low gravity environment (very tall and thin). :B With Piix you moved in the right direction in terms of the body and limbs proportions. And I can't wait to see Piix coloured - your colouring is always great. :3
Haha, true. XD And thank you so much, Ren! :3 I'm really glad this is an improvement over my usual anatomy work. I'm definitely going to try and keep the information about the limb proportions in mind.
This'll teach all those people who thought Keaton was anorexic! >:3
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on September 13, 2008, 01:01:46 PM
Wasn't Piix supposed to have spines or spikes on her back or something? Or am I thinking of something else? :B
Don't worry, you're not going crazy. Piix does have spines, but I haven't added them in the picture yet. :B
I think it looks great, Keaton. I'm not complaining about your older drawings, but I kind of prefer the proportions on Piix: the others were just a bit too thin. I look forward to seeing the finished drawing.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 13, 2008, 01:07:57 PM
This'll teach all those people who thought Keaton was anorexic! >:3
Yeah! She just have grown up on Mars!! :B
Quote from: Jairus on September 13, 2008, 01:09:04 PM
I think it looks great, Keaton. I'm not complaining about your older drawings, but I kind of prefer the proportions on Piix: the others were just a bit too thin. I look forward to seeing the finished drawing.
Thanks, Jairus. :) I'm really glad you like the drawing. Comparing this to my older drawings is actually a big encouragement for me, because I wanted for this picture to be a noticeable improvement. I'm going to try and draw the rest of my characters like this from now on.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 13, 2008, 01:10:42 PM
Yeah! She just have grown up on Mars!! :B
Go to your room.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 13, 2008, 12:29:15 PM
Since I really need any and all advice on improving my anatomy, constructive criticism is encouraged for this picture.
Ok, as has been said: it's much better, weight wise, than your previous art.
Sadly, she's still a stick, IMHO. While she's much more realistically proportioned, she's still skinny as. For example, try drawing your big bug. Anyone that big is gonna have to be heavyset, which gives you a little too far in the other direction to go, as it were.
More specifics: She's got huge (hyoooge!) feet, but the rest of her is still a skinny, borderline emaciated child. It's unusual to get evolution providing feet that large, unless she's standing on very thin, wet soil; having fur on them is another unlikely issue with that, although it's not clear from the sketch (yet) if the feet are furred, since if you're standing in soupy mud, you tend to grow slick feet that wipe off easy, so you don't end up harbouring parasites in the top of your feet.
I'd say throwing another 30-40kg onto her frame wouldn't hurt, unless she's supposed to be a skinny little child form. Obviously, being tree-based, one presumes that she has branch-like bones, rather than calcium, but that implies a larger frame rather than a smaller one; carbon systems tend to take up more space for the same tensile strength as calcium, IIRC.
More discussion elsewhere, though, if you want.
Beep Beep! Here comes the MSPaint train! :U (http://www.missmab.com/WRY/Pix_Frame.gif)
Ugh...so miss Photoshop so much... :<
Anyways. The thing I am noticing is it looks to me you tend to draw from the outline and not from a frame...which is always going to make proportions and anatomy a little wonky.
If I was a brutal school of hard knocks mistress, I would offer the advice that my professor gave me...but honestly its hard boring work and no matter how much people say they want to learn it, they never actually do it so I am not going to waste breath and typing minutes.
I will say that I would recommend you try to work more from the base up and actually try to build a frame before you start adding the outlines. I did a quick MS over your image and simply adding the box on the chest for her ribcage and the shape for her hips adds about 20 lbs. (Take that camera!)
Its like you got the general anatomy down. You know hip bones are connected to the pelvic bone...but you don't actually know the parts underneath the skin that make it possible and so you just kind of draw the familiar part.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 13, 2008, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 13, 2008, 12:29:15 PM
Since I really need any and all advice on improving my anatomy, constructive criticism is encouraged for this picture.
Ok, as has been said: it's much better, weight wise, than your previous art.
Sadly, she's still a stick, IMHO. While she's much more realistically proportioned, she's still skinny as. For example, try drawing your big bug. Anyone that big is gonna have to be heavyset, which gives you a little too far in the other direction to go, as it were.
More specifics: She's got huge (hyoooge!) feet, but the rest of her is still a skinny, borderline emaciated child. It's unusual to get evolution providing feet that large, unless she's standing on very thin, wet soil; having fur on them is another unlikely issue with that, although it's not clear from the sketch (yet) if the feet are furred, since if you're standing in soupy mud, you tend to grow slick feet that wipe off easy, so you don't end up harbouring parasites in the top of your feet.
I'd say throwing another 30-40kg onto her frame wouldn't hurt, unless she's supposed to be a skinny little child form. Obviously, being tree-based, one presumes that she has branch-like bones, rather than calcium, but that implies a larger frame rather than a smaller one; carbon systems tend to take up more space for the same tensile strength as calcium, IIRC.
More discussion elsewhere, though, if you want.
Oh no my ego :<
Actually, I'm perfectly fine. Someone had mentioned earlier through Messenger that Piix looked like she had the body of a twelve-year-old, but I didn't know that it was still emaciated, so this comes as a surprise. However, this lets me know I should keep improving, so... Thank you for the input, llearch. :tighthug I should probably keep the proportions, but add a lot more weight onto the figure.
I'm starting to wish I had a little shoulder-fairy that hovers over my shoulder. And whenever it notices that my figures are too skinny it'd bark out commands in my ear and make me correct them. XD That does it. ANATOMY BOOK TIEMS. I should have some in my closet, so I'm digging them out the next time I start drawing.
As for the feet, my Chemistry teacher pointed them out yesterday so I fixed them so that way they are a little less exaggerated: adding smaller toes kind of reduced the overall size of the feet. I should upload the finished sketch for you to see later.
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 13, 2008, 03:31:50 PM
Beep Beep! Here comes the MSPaint train! :U (http://www.missmab.com/WRY/Pix_Frame.gif)
Ugh...so miss Photoshop so much... :<
Anyways. The thing I am noticing is it looks to me you tend to draw from the outline and not from a frame...which is always going to make proportions and anatomy a little wonky.
If I was a brutal school of hard knocks mistress, I would offer the advice that my professor gave me...but honestly its hard boring work and no matter how much people say they want to learn it, they never actually do it so I am not going to waste breath and typing minutes.
I will say that I would recommend you try to work more from the base up and actually try to build a frame before you start adding the outlines. I did a quick MS over your image and simply adding the box on the chest for her ribcage and the shape for her hips adds about 20 lbs. (Take that camera!)
Its like you got the general anatomy down. You know hip bones are connected to the pelvic bone...but you don't actually know the parts underneath the skin that make it possible and so you just kind of draw the familiar part.
HOLY CRAP AMBER'S IN MY ART TOPIC :U
I'm extremely, extremely happy about the advice you gave me, actually, because you also provided me a visual reference. This is absolutely perfect - it shows me everything I should fix and how I can. Thank you.
The problem is with the framing, though, is that I typically draw totally by freehand. However, judging from what you've showed me, the frame concept might be the easiest way until I get the hang of anatomy. It seems that, according to your reference, the angling of the neck is wrong as well. That's a little surprising, but I'll keep this in mind.
I'm going to do another body drawing following the instructions you gave me. It's not going to look like something done by a professional since it'd be the first time I ever drew something by a frame, but maybe I can incorporate it into future works to help me understand anatomy properly.
Oi. I can't wait until I start art classes. Then I'd feel more like I'm not just dicking around. I swear to god that I'm listening to all the advice that's given. Thank you all so much, guys.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 13, 2008, 03:49:12 PM
HOLY CRAP AMBER'S IN MY ART TOPIC :U
Nya ha ha. I in ur art topics! Messing up ur esteem! :B
QuoteI'm extremely, extremely happy about the advice you gave me, actually, because you also provided me a visual reference. This is absolutely perfect - it shows me everything I should fix and how I can. Thank you.
I like giving visual references when I can. Cause I know its one thing to say "hey. I think this and this and this is kind of wacky" and expect the artist to see it. But being able to throw down some examples or point of reference usually can help.
Had I still photoshop, I could have done a lot better of a reference cause MSPaint is a pain and doesnt really quite work as well as I would have liked.
QuoteThe problem is with the framing, though, is that I typically draw totally by freehand. However, judging from what you've showed me, the frame concept might be the easiest way until I get the hang of anatomy. It seems that, according to your reference, the angling of the neck is wrong as well. That's a little surprising, but I'll keep this in mind.
Dont worry too much about some of the details...odds are since I had to squiggly mouse scribble, I may have a few dozen things off myself. My main goal was to show how adding a lil box for the chest and for the hips can help sometimes in getting the torso to not look so rubbery.
I used to draw totally by freehand too. A good chunk of DMFA likely showcases that. :U
After a figure drawing class and a few other college courses though, I really noted an improvement in my body construction. Like I said...the framework is a start and helps set things in place to go by. As you get more experienced, odds are your framework will only be a series of like..3 light lines to indicate where the body is going.
It seems in my experience before you can start getting away with shortcuts, you need to know the entire map first. :B
QuoteI'm going to do another body drawing following the instructions you gave me. It's not going to look like something done by a professional since it'd be the first time I ever drew something by a frame, but maybe I can incorporate it into future works to help me understand anatomy properly.
No rush and no pressure. Frames are kind of one of those things you just take lil baby steps on. I personally would just start off doing a frame with the face. (the light circle with the cross-section) and then as you get to each next part, do a quick frame scribble. So from the head you draw a neck then do a light box to indicate where the chest is gonna be. And so on...
Odds are your first time dealing with frames is gonna have you making too large of chestboxes and the figure is gonna look BEEFY or you will find yourself not wanting to use the guide. Which is fine. It takes a few tries to start gauging the size for things.
QuoteOi. I can't wait until I start art classes. Then I'd feel more like I'm not just dicking around. I swear to god that I'm listening to all the advice that's given. Thank you all so much, guys.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF DICKING AROUND! :U
Honestly half the time I come across something creative that improves my art, its because I was dicking around and just being a doofus scribbling. :B
...Personally, I like the way Keaton proportions her characters, if only because it is recognizably her own unique style.
But that's just me...
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on September 13, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
...Personally, I like the way Keaton proportions her characters, if only because it is recognizably her own unique style.
But that's just me...
QFT. Realism is nice, but style is all that and a bag o' chips. :.
I feel so lame not critiquing anything after these walls of text, but I have nothing to critique! D: 'Cept maybe her face, which looks kinda... squished.
I don't have anything against ones style, but far far FAAAAAR too many artists I have come across will use that as an excuse to hide behind for their lack of skills. Having a style is one thing, not having the general anatomic knowledge and then claiming they do it because its stylistic is another. And I have seen also FAAAAR too many mouthbreathers who will shove nothing but sunshine and flowers up an artists butt and then months later the artist gets hit with the nasty criticisms and it turns into a gigantic "dont listen to them. Your stuff is PERFECT." and they just stagnate artwise.
If you look at many pro artists in the big leagues, even the ones with highly stylized artstyles, you will find a good number of them can bust out a charcoal figure life model if given the materials and the image. For them, their style is a choice and done because the already know the rules of the game and can now bend them to match their artistic preference.
So many people seem to think that learning basic anatomy in a class with others is gonna suck their style out of their bodies and turn them into corporate tools. But it doesnt. You don't just "lose" your style, all that learning new things does is teach you how to utilize and add onto it.
I think that the "emaciated" look of Piix may be related to her being an alien, so it is not necessary for Keats to make those changes suggested above to Piix (I'm talking only about Piix here). She looks anatomically correct already. But when she draws more human-like characters, she definitely should follow Amber's and L's advice.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 13, 2008, 05:01:40 PM
I think that the "emaciated" look of Piix may be related to her being an alien, so it is not necessary for Keats to make those changes suggested above to Piix (I'm talking only about Piix here). She looks anatomically correct already. But when she draws more human-like characters, she definitely should follow Amber's and L's advice.
Oh, definitely. Perhaps I wasn't clear - if it _was_ a deliberate choice, then it's all good, and no problem at all.
However, from what KeatyBaby has said here and elsewhere, I figured she wanted some direction for improvement in the fields mentioned. Hence why I coughed up... ;-]
... And then got utterly slammed by Amber's contribution. Oh, well. ;-]
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 13, 2008, 04:47:56 PM
I don't have anything against ones style, but far far FAAAAAR too many artists I have come across will use that as an excuse to hide behind for their lack of skills. Having a style is one thing, not having the general anatomic knowledge and then claiming they do it because its stylistic is another. And I have seen also FAAAAR too many mouthbreathers who will shove nothing but sunshine and flowers up an artists butt and then months later the artist gets hit with the nasty criticisms and it turns into a gigantic "dont listen to them. Your stuff is PERFECT." and they just stagnate artwise.
If you look at many pro artists in the big leagues, even the ones with highly stylized artstyles, you will find a good number of them can bust out a charcoal figure life model if given the materials and the image. For them, their style is a choice and done because the already know the rules of the game and can now bend them to match their artistic preference.
So many people seem to think that learning basic anatomy in a class with others is gonna suck their style out of their bodies and turn them into corporate tools. But it doesnt. You don't just "lose" your style, all that learning new things does is teach you how to utilize and add onto it.
Quoted for ze truths. THANK YOU. <3
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 13, 2008, 04:47:56 PMYou don't just "lose" your style, all that learning new things does is teach you how to utilize and add onto it.
Hmm... Good point - hadn't actually thought of that. :U I'll hush-up, now. :3
Nothing I can add in the face of that advice, but I do like the picture despite it all. Keep working at it Keats.
Quote from: Amber Williams on September 13, 2008, 04:47:56 PM
I don't have anything against ones style, but far far FAAAAAR too many artists I have come across will use that as an excuse to hide behind for their lack of skills. Having a style is one thing, not having the general anatomic knowledge and then claiming they do it because its stylistic is another. And I have seen also FAAAAR too many mouthbreathers who will shove nothing but sunshine and flowers up an artists butt and then months later the artist gets hit with the nasty criticisms and it turns into a gigantic "dont listen to them. Your stuff is PERFECT." and they just stagnate artwise.
If you look at many pro artists in the big leagues, even the ones with highly stylized artstyles, you will find a good number of them can bust out a charcoal figure life model if given the materials and the image. For them, their style is a choice and done because the already know the rules of the game and can now bend them to match their artistic preference.
So many people seem to think that learning basic anatomy in a class with others is gonna suck their style out of their bodies and turn them into corporate tools. But it doesnt. You don't just "lose" your style, all that learning new things does is teach you how to utilize and add onto it.
As a musician, I'd like to add to this. I've seen a lot of musicians stagnate into patterns or single areas of music because they thought learning chordal structure and all that somewhat boring stuff would just hamper what they were doing in the end. But that's like thinking that painting with only three colors when you could be painting with all of them is better. When you understand all of the rules, you can bend them to your will however you like. As a bassist that likes to play a lot of chordal and solo stuff I'm often asked why I play my instrument more like a guitar instead of the traditional role of the bass. But why should I let myself stick in that one place when I could branch out to many?
Learn everything you can, and you can apply that knowledge however you like later on. And this applies to everything, not just art. =D
just yesterday i went to my brother in laws wedding, and i was usher along with my best friend from highschool. and i notised something about him
he IS as thin and boney as older keaton drawings, i find this cool to an extreme level. his boney hands make him the best guitarist i know
seeing the two of us next to each other is a contrast painful to the eyes
so dont beat up your old work too much, it always has a place even if only for contrast or for a scant few freaky people
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 14, 2008, 10:55:05 PM
he IS as thin and boney as older keaton drawings, i find this cool to an extreme level. his boney hands make him the best guitarist i know
*blink*
In the nicest possible sense, Brun... pictures, or I won't believe it. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 15, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 14, 2008, 10:55:05 PM
he IS as thin and boney as older keaton drawings, i find this cool to an extreme level. his boney hands make him the best guitarist i know
*blink*
In the nicest possible sense, Brun... pictures, or I won't believe it. ;-]
sadly he is a little more camera shy then i am, and you know how rare a picture of me is.
anyways the only photo i have of him at the moment he is wearing the tuxedo. that was a fiasco, he and i went to get measured so we could be the ushers- they measured my shoulders and thus gave me the fat man tuxedo that had to be taken in everywhere, they gave him one that needed some kind of support frame to keep it suspended around his body or it would fall off. humorously we were the only ones in the wedding party not given top hats and canes, later when i appropriated one from a groomsman who had passed out found out why- on me it sat like a phez, on my old friend it covered everything above his mouth
i still stand by my statement that he is really that thin, its why we were friends in the first place. back in kindergarten and gradeschool he was super tiny, and bullies would have eaten him alive except i came to protect him. it was a good relationship, we laughed a lot, talked about everything, and due to our sizes it was mutually beneficial what with me being scary and he actually having the use of his hands and the ability to see further then ten feet... except i became hunchbacked for several years of talking to someone who only came up to my sternum- lately he got as tall as me so thats no longer a problem other then my spine makes funny noises
so disbelieve me all you want boxy, the creations of keaton are REAL!
I'm kinda jumping in here, (I kinda glossed over some of the posts, sorry.) But I just had a few things to toss in that Amber started on.
The one spot that bugs me is under her left arm. Her side doesn't show any sign of a ribcage or her oblique. It's just smooth. Also, I think her breasts need to be set lower on her chest (Unless her back is arched in ways I hitherto had not imagined possible). I'd also suggest moving her head further to the left, her neck looks like it's about to snap.
As a note on pose... if a figure is in a mid step, as she seems to be, the shoulders and hips are usually turned sepratly. IE: her left shoulder should be pulled back.
I'm diabetic, by the way, and skinny as a rail (30.5 inch waist, and seven of my ribs show on each side). I can tell you this for certain: even if your characters don't have fat or muscle, they should have tendons and bones.
I am a firm believer of the fundamentals, and especially anatomy. You can't really capture a person unless you know that under the skin, they have muscle, and under the muscle, they have bones. If your drawing doesn't have bones and muscle under the skin, it doesn't seem as real to the viewer. That might sound weird, suggesting that you have to draw something we can't see, but for the skin to seem real, we must believe there is muscle underneath it. And if you want to cartoon something, you have to know what the real thing looks like. Inside and out.
Can't wait to see more.
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 15, 2008, 08:19:48 PM
sadly he is a little more camera shy then i am, and you know how rare a picture of me is.
Awww. :-( *pout*
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 15, 2008, 08:19:48 PM
humorously we were the only ones in the wedding party not given top hats and canes, later when i appropriated one from a groomsman who had passed out found out why- on me it sat like a phez, on my old friend it covered everything above his mouth
Heh. BrunnyChan with a fez!
*snerk*
Holy shit, everyone. Thank you so much for offering so much constructive criticism and critique! I'm overwhelmed with happiness. c:
Unfortunately, I couldn't make the adjustments that Amber suggested since I had already drawn the top part of the outfit onto the picture. The scan I had uploaded onto my art topic was outdated. Applying everyone's critiques to my drawing style, however, I should improve my pictures considerably. Thank you all.
I figured I should show you all the finished product of the picture, even if I couldn't make any alterations to the body. I kind of felt ashamed about uploading this since I couldn't adjust it, but, eh...
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Scan-PiixClothes.jpg?t=1222181540)
Either way, I'm very proud of the clothing design. Piix's markings haven't been added yet, and I fixed her arm because it was giving me so much trouble. If I ever color the picture (I probably will have to, for future reference), expect them to be added. Not all of the eraser marks have been removed because I'm a dinkbutt.
As for why Piix's belly button is absent, I haven't decided how the Orin are born (through eggs or live birth) so I figured I should leave that ambiguous for now, until someone suggests something interesting or until I come up with something. Me and Stygian are deciding on a method since he suggested a chrysalis-type reproduction.
Oh, but I did fix Piix's feet. Hopefully they look more reasonable in size.
Coming up next is Tapewolf's belated birthday present and commission. You cannot escape from me, Tape!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:05:21 AM
Coming up next is Tapewolf's belated birthday present and commission. You cannot escape from me, Tape!
Oh noes.
With Piix, the thing which immediately strikes me is that her clothes - specifically the leggings - don't seem to have much thickness to them. The top is fine, but with the legs it is a little ambiguous was to whether they are covered or not. If they are covered and not tattoos or similar markings, the material is very thin and skin-tight. If that's not the way it's supposed to look it might want some attention.
That aside, it looks very nice.
Awesome stuff Keats! I do have to go with Tape's assessment of her leggings though, are they really thin or do you need to adjust?
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
Oh noes.
>:3 >:3 >:3
QuoteWith Piix, the thing which immediately strikes me is that her clothes - specifically the leggings - don't seem to have much thickness to them. The top is fine, but with the legs it is a little ambiguous was to whether they are covered or not. If they are covered and not tattoos or similar markings, the material is very thin and skin-tight. If that's not the way it's supposed to look it might want some attention.
That aside, it looks very nice.
I think I understand what you mean. Actually, Piix's legs are mostly bare, with the exception of the socks you can see decorating her shins. I figured leggings would look a little awkward with her sash. This isn't terribly clear when the markings haven't been added, mind you. I'm still designing them so she looks more like a poison dart frog and less like a cheap knockoff of Keaton.
I
did want to give her harem-style silk bottoms, but when I tried that, it looked pretty silly so I decided to save that for later.
She is, however, wearing undergarments (like a bikini bottom) beneath her sash. You can't see them all that well though.
Good work, Keats! I still think that Piix doesn't necessarily need to be adjusted furtherer, since she looks quite fine already. Clothing design looks great too, but I agree with Tape - her pants look like they are painted on. Can't wait to see this picture coloured. :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:18:29 AM
I think I understand what you mean. Actually, Piix's legs are mostly bare, with the exception of the socks you can see decorating her shins.
Yes, it's the socks which could do with a little tweaking, since they follow the line of her leg exactly - ideally they should be thicker than the rest of it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 23, 2008, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:18:29 AM
I think I understand what you mean. Actually, Piix's legs are mostly bare, with the exception of the socks you can see decorating her shins.
Yes, it's the socks which could do with a little tweaking, since they follow the line of her leg exactly - ideally they should be thicker than the rest of it.
Ah, alrighty then. I see what you mean. I'll adjust it a few times until I can achieve the effect desired, as you suggested. >:3
Thanks for the advice, everyone! :boogie
Well, everyone's already given the advice I was thinking of giving, so I'll just say that she looks great, Keaton.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:29:27 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 23, 2008, 11:28:26 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:26:23 AM
Thanks for the advice, everyone! :boogie
You are welcome.
Why aren't you in your room? >:(
Okay, I'm still waking up. I don't get this. Help, please?
Quote from: Jairus on September 23, 2008, 11:35:30 AM
Okay, I'm still waking up. I don't get this. Help, please?
Some kind of private joke, I'd imagine.
Thanks, Jairus! :)
Quote from: Jairus on September 23, 2008, 11:35:30 AM
Okay, I'm still waking up. I don't get this. Help, please?
And ah, I think I can help. It was a pretty bad joke on my part, but a while back, when Ren pointed out that some of my characters look like they were raised in space, I told him to go to his room for... uh, some reason. I don't get why. Those posts should be on the last page.
This was basically a reference to that.
Ah, here we go:
Quote from: Me
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 13, 2008, 01:10:42 PM
Yeah! She just have grown up on Mars!! :B
Go to your room.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:39:44 AM
And ah, I think I can help. It was a pretty bad joke on my part, but a while back, when Ren pointed out that some of my characters look like they were raised in space, I told him to go to his room for... uh, some reason. I don't get why. Those posts should be on the last page.
This was basically a reference to that.
Precisely.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:29:27 AM
Why aren't you in your room? >:[
But I dun wanna!!.. :dface
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 23, 2008, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 23, 2008, 11:29:27 AM
Why aren't you in your room? >:[
But I dun wanna!!.. :dface
Seriously, you don't wanna make her say it again now do you? That won't end well for anyone. :<
...
Looks great Keats, only complaint I had was addressed by far better. So I guess I'll just leave it at that. :3
Quote from: Mowser on September 23, 2008, 12:18:11 PM
Seriously, you don't wanna make her say it again now do you? That won't end well for anyone. :<
BAAAAAAAW!!! :crying *runs away*
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 23, 2008, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Mowser on September 23, 2008, 12:18:11 PM
Seriously, you don't wanna make her say it again now do you? That won't end well for anyone. :<
BAAAAAAAW!!! :crying *runs away*
Oh great. You made Ren cry. There there Ren, it's okay. :hug Shhhh, shhhh, it's okay.
I wish I had more to say, but all I can think of is that I like where you went with her outfit - it seems to fit the character a lot more than the poofy pants would have. Is verra nice. :>
reading back any comments i could have on how piix looks is crushed by the mental imagery of the harem pants and what they could possibly be used for now
it takes the form of those old action/adventure games like monkey island
- Use 'Harem pants' on Piix.
that does not seem to help you
- Use 'Harem pants' on Ren Gaulen.
that does not seem to help you
-Use 'Harem pants' on Tapewolf
eccetera eccetera
maybe tomorrow once that works itself out of my system or the correct solution is found i can give a straight faced comment on the spritely and lithe young thing wearing the revealing costume
There's your problem, Brun.
- Use Piix on Harem Pants.
You apply Piix to the Harem Pants. You have gained Harem Piix! Congratulations!
*cough*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 24, 2008, 08:16:55 AM
There's your problem, Brun.
- Use Piix on Harem Pants.
You apply Piix to the Harem Pants. You have gained Harem Piix! Congratulations!
*cough*
Good work, llearch.
Now to find someone or something we could use Harem Piix on! :B
Use llearch on Ren.
Use harem outfit on Keaton.
Great, guys, just great. You're all making me want to draw harem-girl Piix. And she'd probably look hot. :<
Actually, another reason I gave her clothes was because I felt self-conscious drawing her naked and saying that her fur was thick enough to conceal anything objectionable. I ended up coming to the conclusion that was a really stupid excuse, considering thick fur was impractical in primarily tropical and arid environments (as her planet is comprised of) and, evolution-wise, her species would have probably developed thinner fur over time due to her planet's climate. I liked drawing Piix without clothes because she was like a Looney Toons character, but I like her a lot more now after taking those elements into consideration.
But yes, I want to draw harem-girl Piix. XD And then harem-girl Keaton. AND THEN I'M DRAWING ALL OF YOU AS HAREM GIRLS.
Yes, I have a shameless thing for harem girls.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 24, 2008, 09:04:13 AM
Actually, another reason I gave her clothes was because I felt self-conscious drawing her naked and saying that her fur was thick enough to conceal anything objectionable. I ended up coming to the conclusion that was a really stupid excuse, considering thick fur was impractical in primarily tropical and arid environments (as her planet is comprised of) and, evolution-wise, her species would have probably developed thinner fur over time due to her planet's climate. I liked drawing Piix without clothes because she was like a Looney Toons character, but I like her a lot more now after taking those elements into consideration.
..Also, clothes are often fun to draw.. :3
Ha! Can't draw me as a harem girl yet! You probably haven't even decided how my Char looks yet! Muahahaha! :mwaha
Enjoy your new outfits ladies.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on September 24, 2008, 09:05:49 AM
..Also, clothes are often fun to draw.. :3
Well, yes, that too. I like drawing the fabric wrinkles.
I hate designing outfits, though.
Quote from: Mowser on September 24, 2008, 09:09:44 AM
Ha! Can't draw me as a harem girl yet! You probably haven't even decided how my Char looks yet! Muahahaha! :mwaha
Enjoy your new outfits ladies.
Oh, but have I mentioned that I'm working on designing your character in your commission? :3
I haven't? Goodness, I bet this comes as a pleasant surprise, then. >:3
Enjoy your see-through silk and bikinis.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 24, 2008, 08:35:00 AM
Use llearch on Ren.
You can't do that!
Use Harem Piix on RenRen who?
Use Harem Piix on Ren GaulenYou apply Harem Piix to Ren Gaulen. You have created Harem Eunuch Ren! Congratulations!
(Sorry, Keats...)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 24, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
You apply Harem Piix to Ren Gaulen. You have created Harem Eunuch Ren! Congratulations!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!~
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 24, 2008, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: Mowser on September 24, 2008, 09:09:44 AM
Ha! Can't draw me as a harem girl yet! You probably haven't even decided how my Char looks yet! Muahahaha! :mwaha
Enjoy your new outfits ladies.
Oh, but have I mentioned that I'm working on designing your character in your commission? :3
I haven't? Goodness, I bet this comes as a pleasant surprise, then. >:3
Enjoy your see-through silk and bikinis.
I....
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be :crying
or :eager
now.
Deliciously evil. My commendations.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 24, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 24, 2008, 08:35:00 AM
Use llearch on Ren.
You can't do that!
Use Harem Piix on Ren
Ren who?
Use Harem Piix on Ren Gaulen
You apply Harem Piix to Ren Gaulen. You have created Harem Eunuch Ren! Congratulations!
(Sorry, Keats...)
Ok, that's just mean. You made him an Eunuch!? Not even I would do that to someone... and I'm a fairly easily persuadable ($$) fellow.
Hey, I'm just watching the game, controlling it. I don't see you guys making the kind of moves I'm contemplating... ;-]
(comments about Ren being queen-like are now being entertained...)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 24, 2008, 09:04:13 AM
Use harem outfit on Keaton.
But yes, I want to draw harem-girl Piix. XD And then harem-girl Keaton. AND THEN I'M DRAWING ALL OF YOU AS HAREM GIRLS.
Yes, I have a shameless thing for harem girls.
area of effect crazyness, fun
aww, we need to get you a harem. a harem of guys too, be more usefull for you
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 24, 2008, 05:29:25 PM
aww, we need to get you a harem. a harem of guys too, be more usefull for you
List me in. :3
well shes drawin us all in the outfit, we may as well grab some fern fans, peel some grapes, rub some feet, and just make ourselves useful in general
Quote from: Brunhidden on September 24, 2008, 06:57:15 PM
well shes drawin us all in the outfit, we may as well grab some fern fans, peel some grapes, rub some feet, and just make ourselves useful in general
Indeed.
So I'm at school twenty minutes early and there's nothing for me to do. Have a preview of Tapewolf's commission. Posted with his permission, of course.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commission-Tapewolf-WolfInked.jpg?t=1222995047)
Time Taken:- Drawing: Maybe a day? I'm not sure. There were a lot of delays.
- Inking: 1 and a half hours
The background of his commission has been inked as well, but I'm leaving that as a surprise. All I'm going to say is that I thought it was going to be a
nightmare to ink, but I cleared most of the picture within the day and wrapped it up in record time.
This particular snippet was a practice in drawing people from the back, perspective, and drawing firearms. I really like how the gun turned out. Actually, I love this whole thing.
BRUSH YOUR TEEEEETH!
Nice one, Keats, but I have a few nit-picks. The gun looks very flat. Though, considering how you don't draw guns often, it looks good. Also, why no hair? :< I guess there is a reason, though. :. And I have a guess about the background, but I won't say anything here until you reveal the truth.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on October 03, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
Nice one, Keats, but I have a few nit-picks. The gun looks very flat. Though, considering how you don't draw guns often, it looks good.
Thank you :) As for the gun, I blame the angle. It's viewed straightforwardly, so there aren't many dynamics to its appearance.
QuoteAlso, why no hair? :< I guess there is a reason, though. :. And I have a guess about the background, but I won't say anything here until you reveal the truth.
I didn't add the hair so that way the wolf was more eponymous - so he resembled more of an actual wolf instead of a sexy anthromorph. It's really more of a silly stylistic choice on my part. :B
Beyond the gun looking flat, something isn't right about that handle. I own a few pistols and I've never had all of my fingers extended the same length. Normally the bottom three are curled in more with the trigger finger slightly further out (unless I'm firing). Otherwise, it looks really cool. I get the feeling that it's going to look pretty wicked when it's all done up. :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 03, 2008, 08:39:08 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on October 03, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
Nice one, Keats, but I have a few nit-picks. The gun looks very flat. Though, considering how you don't draw guns often, it looks good.
Thank you :) As for the gun, I blame the angle. It's viewed straightforwardly, so there aren't many dynamics to its appearance.
I guess it will stop looking 2-D when you colour and shade it, anyway. :3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on October 03, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
The gun looks very flat. Though, considering how you don't draw guns often, it looks good.
That can probably be fudged through shading.
QuoteAlso, why no hair? :< I guess there is a reason, though.
Actually, I never noticed the hair. That said, I think hair is probably not a requirement for this piece since it's symbolic rather than an illustration and the target audience is the general public, rather than someone who's into anthropomorphic animals
per se.
QuoteAnd I have a guess about the background, but I won't say anything here until you reveal the truth.
Let's just say it's for the album cover.
Quote from: Mowser on October 03, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Beyond the gun looking flat, something isn't right about that handle. I own a few pistols and I've never had all of my fingers extended the same length. Normally the bottom three are curled in more with the trigger finger slightly further out (unless I'm firing). Otherwise, it looks really cool. I get the feeling that it's going to look pretty wicked when it's all done up. :3
Hmm. I liked the way the hand looked, but I think it's an easy fix. I'll take care of that as soon as I get home. :3 I don't think I need to fix the trigger finger since it'll look comparatively longer when I shorten the other fingers, but right now I'm spouting a lot of technobabble. XD Thank you for the advice, Mowser. I'll post the updated version when it's done.
I really like his coat. :januscat
Quote from: Lysander on October 03, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
I really like his coat. :januscat
I had to model that. Keaton is now one of the only people
alive to have seen me in a trenchcoat :P
The hand looks flat 'cause the outside edge (the side with the pinkey) doesn't taper out from the wrist, and the hand doesn't look like it's really gripping the gun. The crook of the thumb is lower then that, so it looks like it's being gripped lightly (As a note, the back of the hand should be longer to accommodate this). You'd also get more impression of force behind the grip if the fingers were shorter, clenched-fist.
Also, the forearm does have muscle. It starts at the elbow and tapers halfway to the wrist (After that halfway point, most people only have tendon and bone, and very little muscle). I usually draw the wrist at two thirds the width of the forearm, but it can vary.
I love the trenchcoat, it has a great feel to it, and that's a very good face for the direction it's facing.
Quote from: Fox LeBlanc on October 03, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
The hand looks flat 'cause the outside edge (the side with the pinkey) doesn't taper out from the wrist, and the hand doesn't look like it's really gripping the gun. The crook of the thumb is lower then that, so it looks like it's being gripped lightly (As a note, the back of the hand should be longer to accommodate this). You'd also get more impression of force behind the grip if the fingers were shorter, clenched-fist.
Also, the forearm does have muscle. It starts at the elbow and tapers halfway to the wrist (After that halfway point, most people only have tendon and bone, and very little muscle). I usually draw the wrist at two thirds the width of the forearm, but it can vary.
I love the trenchcoat, it has a great feel to it, and that's a very good face for the direction it's facing.
The hand in general is a bit of a tougher fix, since I'm not sure how to elongate the features of the hand without disturbing a great deal of the rest of the picture. However, I can adjust the fingers so they look like they're clenching, and add muscle mass onto the forearm to emulate that tapering effect you mentioned. >:3 Also, I can erase the joint of the thumb and adjust it to match the angle you suggested.
Thank you for the compliments and the advice, by the way. :)
Quote from: Lysander on October 03, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
I really like his coat. :januscat
Thank you very much! I like his coat too. :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 03, 2008, 01:51:42 PM
The hand in general is a bit of a tougher fix, since I'm not sure how to elongate the features of the hand without disturbing a great deal of the rest of the picture. However, I can adjust the fingers so they look like they're clenching, and add muscle mass onto the forearm to emulate that tapering effect you mentioned. >:3 Also, I can erase the joint of the thumb and adjust it to match the angle you suggested.
Thank you for the compliments and the advice, by the way. :)
I can think of a very quick fix for the hand. Move the knuckles farther up. this way, you shorten the fingers, the thumb is placed farther back on the hand overall, and the back of the hand is shorter.
And, your welcome for the advice and compliments. I love getting into this sort of discussion.
Quote from: Fox LeBlanc on October 03, 2008, 02:59:23 PM
I can think of a very quick fix for the hand. Move the knuckles farther up. this way, you shorten the fingers, the thumb is placed farther back on the hand overall, and the back of the hand is shorter.
And, your welcome for the advice and compliments. I love getting into this sort of discussion.
!
You know, Fox... I like how you think >:3 I'll give that a try. I just opened Photoshop. I'll probably post up two revisions of the Wolf's hand when I get the chance, for comparing and approval.
I also enjoy this type of discussion. :)
Hmm, and here are the revisions I promised.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commission-Tapewolf-WolfInkedcopy.jpg?t=1223305837)
I took all the suggestions into account, and hopefully this has resolved all of the issues. I added some bulk to the forearm and shortened the fingers, not to mention I moved the knuckles down the hand.
If this looks right, then I'll start the coloring process.
Looks good to me, though you might want to wait for some of the more artistically-skilled members to comment first.
... you know, it occurs to me that the grip of the hand on the pistol implies that the trigger has been pulled already.
Have you considered a wisp of smoke rising from the top of the barrel?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 06, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
... you know, it occurs to me that the grip of the hand on the pistol implies that the trigger has been pulled already.
Have you considered a wisp of smoke rising from the top of the barrel?
Good suggestion. He has in fact fired the gun, multiple times. I imagine the smoke would be something to add in as a colouring effect.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 06, 2008, 11:21:55 AM
Good suggestion. He has in fact fired the gun, multiple times. I imagine the smoke would be something to add in as a colouring effect.
I thought so, but I'm no guru in art, so I could well be entirely wrong on that, and I didn't want to be telling Keats what to do.
One of my guiding principles is not telling people who know what they're doing how to do it. ;-]
I thought the gun looked rather nice, especially since i've never seen you draw one before. You can see all the 'levels' of the guns surface, there is some fancy detailing. And well it looks like a real gun.
One more note about the hand holding the gun: Hands usually have a little mass on the outside (pinky side) for the heel of the hand. Three fingered hands usually end up losing this. Really, draw a line from between your 3rd and 4th knuckle straight back to your wrist, and it lines up with the edge of your arm.
HOLY SHIT IT'S BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME. Never again will I let this topic disappear off the face of the earth.
Actually, while I promised everyone in my DeviantArt journal that I would have three commissions completed by Christmas, I have something a little different than the usual update prepared. I'll still update with the commissions, but here's a little something as a Christmas goodie.
A Very Special Christmas Collaboration by Ren Gaulen and Keaton (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commissions/ZiggyPopInked2copy.jpg?t=1229818235)
Slightly NSFW for beefcake and speedos
Time Taken: *Inking: 3 days of laziness
*Coloring: 2 days
Currently Listening To: "I Play Dead," by Demon Hunter
This is, as the title above says, a collaboration. Between me and my good friend Ren Gaulen. :3 He drew the picture; I inked it and colored it. He did a marvelous job on Siegfried's anatomy. Ren can draw bodies a lot better than I can. :<
I'm really satisfied with how this picture turned out, all-around, so I'm definitely going to do more collaborations in the future.
To those who are curious: yes, that's a new inking style that I'm using. It utilizes tapered lines. If people like it, then I'll implement it in future pictures.
This pic, is the best pic ever. Keaton, you are absolutely, positively awesome. In fact, you are a winrar! :B I love what you did with my sketch. That's an exquisite work, and while my anatomy may be better than yours, my digital colouring and inking skills are nowhere near as good as yours. You simply rock. And I am definitely looking forward to new collaborations with you. :] :hug
To paraphrase what I said on FA, I think this is a good collaboration as it improves over Ren's inking and shading skills while still retaining the character of his lineart.
On the negative/critique side, I have to admit that the skin seems over-highlighted to me. This would work nicely for a wet human or maybe some kind of lizard, and it would be awesome for armour or similar textures... But it doesn't look so good on a feline. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to do this myself, but it doesn't look to me like he's covered in fur.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on December 20, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
This pic, is the best pic ever. Keaton, you are absolutely, positively awesome. In fact, you are a winrar! :B I love what you did with my sketch. That's an exquisite work, and while my anatomy may be better than yours, my digital colouring and inking skills are nowhere near as good as yours. You simply rock. And I am definitely looking forward to new collaborations with you. :] :hug
:tighthug: Thank you so much, Ren :D I'm still so glad the results appealed to you. This was a hell of a lot of fun to do, so I'd love to do another commission with you.
I'm still in shock that you never received any formal education (art classes) in terms of drawing anatomy. Your anatomy is great. :hug Thank you so much for all of the praise and the support. :]
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 20, 2008, 06:30:22 PM
To paraphrase what I said on FA, I think this is a good collaboration as it improves over Ren's inking and shading skills while still retaining the character of his lineart.
On the negative/critique side, I have to admit that the skin seems over-highlighted to me. This would work nicely for a wet human or maybe some kind of lizard, and it would be awesome for armour or similar textures... But it doesn't look so good on a feline. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to do this myself, but it doesn't look to me like he's covered in fur.
Thanks for the comment, dude. Actually, I do agree with you about the highlights. :animesweat: Which is why I replaced my earlier link with a (hopefully) improved version a few minutes before this post. :3 It should look a lot better now.
I think the main problem with the highlights is that Siegfried isn't wearing much clothing. With Cogidubnus's commission and Azrael, they were both wearing clothes, so I could easily add highlights without making their skin/fur look too polished. Also, I was self-conscious about Siegfried looking too flat without the highlights, so I went a little apeshit. :B
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 20, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
Thanks for the comment, dude. Actually, I do agree with you about the highlights. :animesweat: Which is why I replaced my earlier link with a (hopefully) improved version a few minutes before this post. :3 It should look a lot better now.
Yes, that's much better. With the legs there is still some room for improvement, but it does look a lot better.
There is still an issue that the fur looks too smooth. Paradoxically, I think that's a result of your improved inking. With Ren's normal style the edges are somewhat rough and scratchy, which actually improves the 'fur' effect. What you might want to try in future is roughing up the outlines. I've done this myself in Project Future once or twice.
Here's an example:
http://www.project-future.org/strip.php?strip=10
...if you look at the bottom-left panel, the hand was originally smooth and human-looking. From a distance it was okay, but as a closeup it was a problem because it looked like he'd been shaved bald or something. I deliberately messed up the outline. Truth be told I think I overdid it there, but it does look somewhat fuzzy. Actually, this may have been my first attempt at manually fluffing it.
Now consider Josh in the second panel of this strip:
http://www.project-future.org/strip.php?strip=6
...That I think was designed-in rather than an artifact of Ren's inking or digital modification, but you've got the little tufts and edges all down his arms which reinforces the fur effect.
QuoteWith Cogidubnus's commission and Azrael, they were both wearing clothes, so I could easily add highlights without making their skin/fur look too polished.
Heh. Actually, I remember having this conversation about Azrael. Originally it looked like he was wearing PVC trousers or something :P
[insert Tape's quote/advice here]
Ironically, Ren had originally added the fuzzy effects to Siegfried's tail in the lineart, but I stupidly decided to cut through a good portion of the inking process by making it look smoother, and instead of adding a bunch of jagged lines, making a singular line that accommodated the whole length of the tail. :<
A screenshot of the inking process. Ren's lineart is visible underneath my inking. (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commissions/Large_Scan_Beefcake_Zigcopy.jpg?t=1229820501) See? Siegfried's tail is a lot fuzzier here. Major d'oh on my part. :<
Usually I add a lot more evidence of fur and such around the tail or prominent joints such as the shoulders, but for some reason I made it a lot smoother here. I'll be sure to rectify this in the next inking job I do. Thanks for all the advice, Tape. :)
Rawr. :kittycool
I'm gonna disagree somewhat with Tapewolf's criticism. The thick, brush pen style strokes you used to ink him don't lend themselves very well to "slightly fuzzy" (although they're great for really fluffy fur). Given the musculature, you'd expect the fur to be fairly short and skin tight anyway, so the bold, clean lines were appropriate in this case. If you want to fuzz up an image like this, doing it at the colouring/shading stage would probably work better than messing with the lineart (although you could get away with adding a tuft or two at spots like the elbow).
Other comments... A portion of his tail appears missing. :dface From the angle where it disappears behind the leg, you'd expect to see a small part of it curving up between his thighs.
Ive always felt that one should put large allowances for fuzz when inking, small jagged lines mostly end up looking messy. The problem with that is that sometimes the chara ends up looking too fuzzy. To that end I just usually go with smooth lines if the character is a shorthair variety with only a little fuzz on interjecting or bending body parts.
One of my biggest hurts when inking.
as for the tail, It could be just bent right behind the leg... granted it does look a wee awkward at first glance.
The speedos need to be more pink.
*flees, leaving running gag laughing behind him*
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on December 21, 2008, 04:23:45 AM
The speedos need to be more pink.
*flees, leaving running gag laughing behind him*
PIIIIIIIINK!!!!! D:<
Nice work, both of you! It's strange to look at a picture of an anthropomorphic animal in underwear and notice how well drawn it is, rather than just thinking "it's an anthropomorphic animal in underwear".
Well, the lack of fuzzy doesn't bother me. If you look at most jungle cats, their fur is pretty sleek. Best suggestion I could come up with there are highlights that imply a fibrous surface (similar to hair).
The inking looks sweet, by the way.
The gradient shading on his face, abdomen, and thigh, make him look like he's lit from underneath. Which, I dunno, if he's on stage or something might actually make sense.
Linear gradients make the surfaces they're on look really flat, and its noticeable on the biceps and thigh.
The pic is truly awesome. At this rate, I may end up Gay For Siggy.
Quote from: Fox NaBan on December 21, 2008, 06:46:42 PM
The pic is truly awesome. At this rate, I may end up Gay For Siggy.
>:3
I dun liek beef :<
However, from the -very fleeting- glimpse of the pic I had, it seemed like it was well done... :B
Quote from: Mao Laoren on December 22, 2008, 11:13:39 AM
I endorse this drawing..
If only to see folks squirm from it.
You are evil.
I like it.
Oh hay! Christmas came early for Amber its seems. :U
This is my new favorite thread. :3
...How did this thread grow so quickly overnight?
WHO ARE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE?! D:
No, seriously. Thank you all for the feedback. c: I'm probably going to implement the finer brushes to use furry effects in later inking projects... a comic called
Suicide For Hire (http://www.suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com/) (NSFW) has been doing something relatively similar. If I make the lines taper as I do in other parts of the picture, it should lend itself well to the style.
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 22, 2008, 11:53:44 AM
Oh hay! Christmas came early for Amber its seems. :U
This is my new favorite thread. :3
!
*Wild AMBER has appeared!*
*KEATON uses BEEFCAKE!*
*It's super effective!*
*KEATON uses MASTER BALL!*
Seriously, omigod yay thank you c: *squee*
You mean, http://suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com/ No www in the addy.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 22, 2008, 09:54:43 PM
...How did this thread grow so quickly overnight?
Thats what happens when you feed a thread grade-A Beefcake.
nice. i wish i could bring the images in my mind to life they way you guys do.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 22, 2008, 09:54:43 PM
*Wild AMBER has appeared!*
*KEATON uses BEEFCAKE!*
*It's super effective!*
*KEATON uses MASTER BALL!*
Seriously, omigod yay thank you c: *squee*
Narfing woman! This is why I only show up once per game! Freaking kids! *rolls around in a ball*
Amber in a master ball! Amber in a master ball! Eating popcorn in a master ball~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzTfgds0UI
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 23, 2008, 11:02:20 AM
Narfing woman! This is why I only show up once per game! Freaking kids! *rolls around in a ball*
Oh no! D: Well, good thing I have a GameShark.
Commission time, yo!
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Haz-107307842)
Time Taken:Drawing: Unknown
Inking: 1 Day
Coloring: 3 Days
And now I rest. Blargh. Look at the DA link for more information, and full view for chrissake.
Sexay.
Love how the shades in the fur came out.
I really love the shading on the pants. Great job! :D
Great work, Keats! :> You deserve your rest. c:
Awesome job, Keaton. It looks great. I'll have to commission you at some point, just so I can have bragging rights. Rest up, now.
Thanks for all the feedback, guys! :) I'm glad you all like the shading on the different colors. Locking transparent pixels is my friend.
Quote from: Jairus on December 24, 2008, 06:01:26 PM
Awesome job, Keaton. It looks great. I'll have to commission you at some point, just so I can have bragging rights. Rest up, now.
Haha. XD I appreciate this, Jairus, but once I'm done with commissions it'll be a LONG time before I start accepting them again. They're too draining even when I do them at my leisure and I miss drawing for myself.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 25, 2008, 11:12:45 AM
Thanks for all the feedback, guys! :) I'm glad you all like the shading on the different colors. Locking transparent pixels is my friend.
Quote from: Jairus on December 24, 2008, 06:01:26 PM
Awesome job, Keaton. It looks great. I'll have to commission you at some point, just so I can have bragging rights. Rest up, now.
Haha. XD I appreciate this, Jairus, but once I'm done with commissions it'll be a LONG time before I start accepting them again. They're too draining even when I do them at my leisure and I miss drawing for myself.
D: But, but I tried so hard to make it easy on you. :S I wanna commission more stuff eventually.
I love his expression. His left shoulder looks too far out, though.
Thanks to everyone for their comments on my last picture. :) Turned out better than I thought it would... XD
I just finished this, so Imma just gonna drop this link in everyone's laps.
Commission #4: Mao Laoren (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Mao-Laoren-112105663)
Time Taken:- Drawing: 3 Days
- Inking: 2 Days
- Coloring: Unknown
Currently Listening To: "See You in My Nightmares," by Kanye West
This was already mostly-finished, so I whipped up a background for it so that way it's out of the way. And now I'm 80% finished on Tapewolf's and a-truckin' towards completion.
Honestly, if you want to hear more input regarding the picture, just click the link. And please click the "Download" function in order to view the picture at full resolution instead of the crappy condensed version in DA.
Expect to see another commission finished soon... >:3
W00t! Now I know what Mao really looks like! :>
Great work, Keats. The pose actually looks neat.
That is awesome. I'm at a loss for critique.
As I've said on DA (and in MSN and don't mind saying again) this is an excellent view of Mao and I can honestly say that it goes over and above my expectations. Though I do want to address one thing that was said.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 07, 2009, 02:57:11 PM
W00t! Now I know what Mao really looks like! :>
This is a joint view of my character. It's a mix of my explanation of Mao, and Keatons impressions of him. The real him only exists in my head. That's a place you don't want to see. :P
Back to the drawing though. It goes without saying, as one need only look at the picture to note it, that this is an excellent drawing. The color, the shading, the background, the text...all of that is incredible.
There is a small critique, and I went over it with Keats but to me it's not of any consequence. The one that I teased her about was the arms. They're quite small, especially when you look at how large the legs are. The good thing is that is all that I can personally think of that would warrant any complaint what-so-ever.
So with that said.... <3 Keats. :eager :tighthug
The arms look the right length to me... I think the head is larger then a real life head, and in comparison the arms look short.
(*eyeballs some measurements*) the elbows and wrists would come down to the bottom of the ribcage and inseam, respectively, so the arms seem to be right. But the torso is only two head heights tall, from chin to inseam.
I think his expression is awesome, btw, and I love the quote.
...
Hell yes I'll eat dessert first, thank you very much.
(PS: Keats, I sent you a PM.)
[Edit] (Got a response to the PM.)
Your work is very sharp and clean, but doesn't express volume or textural surfaces. In the first case, I think it's the shading. In the second case... well, hair and fabric are freaking annoying no matter what. Any little thing will make them look unnatural. I like the highlight on the tuft of fur on his tail, though.
The clothes really seem to conform tightly to the body. I get the feeling there should be more folds and gathers around the knees, hips, and shoulders.
I love the graphic elements around the edge and in the background. They're not distracting, and the composition is dynamic. The text would be more readable if more of it were on a contrasting background, like the middle line. Making text easily readable is an art all on it's own, though.
His expression is great, I love that smirk. It's somewhere between quirky and smug. It matches the quote perfectly. The anatomy and proportion looks good too. (The head is large, but that's pretty well a standard)
Wow, cool!
I hadn't realized his ears were that big until now.
I've also read the comment. Does that mean that Mao belongs to Amber?
Uhh, no. Mao is mine Gabi. However afaik the race Nictarl is Ambers. Though the idea of a Cabbit (which is essentially what a Nictarl is, feline/(rabbit/hare) hybrid) is not hers.
Well... I suppose if Amber has the Nictari, she could ask Mao not to use the race. But I don't think that means Amber owns Mao, only that Amber is allowed to say if and how Nictari can and cannot be used.
I'm not very read up on trademarks and copyright laws. Hm.
I was just playing with logic. If Mao is a Nictarl and Nictarls belong to Amber, then by logical deduction Mao is Amber's property.
In other words, it was a silly joke. Sorry.
Oh. You mean "belongs" as in "Belongs to amber, wears a loincloth and wafts a palm frond."
Yeah. That sounds right.
Quote from: WhiteFox on February 09, 2009, 06:27:26 PM
Oh. You mean "belongs" as in "Belongs to amber, wears a loincloth and wafts a palm frond."
Yeah. That sounds right.
:<
But... but... I dun wanna be owned. :C
...
though I do look pretty stylin' in a loincloth. :shifty
Quote from: Mao Laoren on February 10, 2009, 02:47:29 PM
:<
But... but... I dun wanna be owned. :C
Who's asking you slave :mwaha
Thank you once again for the comments, everyone. :) Sorry for the momentary reprieve from commissions, but I wanted to tack this up. Tapewolf's commission should be finished before or at the beginning of March, so everyone: keep your eyes peeled.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Hounds/Scan-ForVexyInkedSmall.jpg?t=1234736969)
Time Taken:
Drawing: About... two hours?
Inking: 2 days
Currently Listening To: "The Legend of the Last of the Outlaw Truckers AKA The Ballad of Sheriff Shorty" - The Dandy Warhols
This is actually just a quickie; a semi-headshot. I had a pretty iffy Valentines Day so I decided to sign up for a "Secret Santa"-style Valentines Day giveaway on another RP website. The deadline was March 1st. When I learned that people were already getting their submissions finished, I scribbled this up really fast and decided to ink and color it. So far, the coloring part has yet to happen.
This is the character of an old friend of mine, Oubliette. I figured putting this picture up here would be harmless since she doesn't frequent these forums. Hell, she doesn't even know I'm a member. Haha >:3
To the curious: Oubliette is a quadruped, hence the strange angling. I've been getting better at drawing them since I've been progressively increasing my entourage of characters with four-legged ones. Expect to see some reference sheets after the commissions are finished. Either way, I'm VERY happy with this, art-wise and inking wise. Especially inking-wise, thanks to the wings. I love these tapering lines.
...
I was a shift shake shoe shake child around
I used to live down town down in trucker town
I was the baddest, baddest, baddest around...
I'm curious about the cracks in the ears and face - last time I've seen that effect it was used to denote cybernetics. Is that the idea in this case?
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 15, 2009, 06:02:14 PM
I'm curious about the cracks in the ears and face - last time I've seen that effect it was used to denote cybernetics. Is that the idea in this case?
I actually have no idea; the intricacies of Vexy's character designs elude me. I think they are hieroglyphics.
Here's her reference sheet, anyway. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/dacookiechicken/oubliette-1.png)
Nice... whoever that is.
Awesome inking indeed! She seems a bit sad though!
Wow! Great work, Keaton! I'm looking forward to seeing it coloured. :3
The hair looks much nicer this time around, especially off the back of the neck. One or two of the bangs looks kind of flat, tho.
The expression is great. It's not quite sad, not quite scared.
Man, I love the rumpled fabric around the collar. That's some beautiful inking.
The ragged edge around the collar looks great, too. Love it.
The thing about the linework around the ears and face is that it gives an impression of the surface, expressing the curvature of the face and ears. I know there isn't a whole lot of it visible, but it works really well. (When I was at NSCAD, we did a few surface contour drawings, (called "cross contours" by this guy) (http://www.paintonmycanvas.com/drawing_lessons/cross_contour_drawing) to that effect.)
Awesome stuff Keats. I especially like the wings and the cloak hanging off of her neck. I'm sure they'll love it when they get it. I do look forward to seeing a completed version. :3
It's finished! I tried to get this done as soon as possible so I could return to commissions.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Hounds/Scan-Oubliette.jpg?t=1235001066)
Time Taken:Drawing: About... two hours?
Inking: 2 days
Coloring: 2 days
Currently Listening To: "The Gloaming (The Mana Goddess)" - Yoko Shimomura (Legend of Mana OST)
I'm... pretty happy with this overall. I think the coloring came out very nicely. Especially around the hair and the crystal; I think that's my most impressively-colored hair to date.
This isn't going on DeviantArt yet. I don't want Vexy to see this just now, but I wanted to show off my work. I hope everyone likes it. :3
Great work, Keats. :3 Though, now that I look at the coloured picture, I realize that Oubilette's ears look kinda odd. Or, rather, not the ears themselves, but the way they are connected to the head. The way the left (our right) ear disappear under the hair makes it look like it grows out of the brow. ..I know I should have noticed and pointed it out when you posted the lineart. :[
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 18, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Great work, Keats. :3 Though, now that I look at the coloured picture, I realize that Oubilette's ears look kinda odd.
Yes, they seem to connect via a small point, kind of like petals. One sharp tug and ew, I don't want to think about it.
Anyway, aside from that it's a lovely piece.
Amazing work Keaton! I love what you've done with the coloring, especially that jewel on her neck and the shadows on her wings- really nice! :bow
Thanks again to everyone who commented. Ya'll are great. :tighthug
EDIT: Oh yeah, and you guys are right about the ears. I hadn't really noticed that, which is sort of weird on my part. :<
Okay, um, I know I promised to upload Tapewolf's commission first, but Zina announced the results of the Secret Santa so I figured I'd tack up my submission. xD
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Secret-Santa-for-Hoppin-113894863)
Time Taken:
- Drawing: 2 days
- Inking: 1.5 days? I can't really remember.
- Coloring: Uh, I can't remember this either. I guess it was 2 days.
Currently Listening To: "Cruel Mistress," by Flogging Molly (it's a less suggestive song than you guys think)
Next time out to sea
Bring enough soul to bury me
For I don't want my final jig
In the belly of a squidlol Flogging Molly.
CLICK ON THE LINK FOR A BIGGER DESCRIPTION. :B I'll just sit here swingin' mah ball and paddle.
Great picture, Keats! I absolutely love your colouring and shading techniques. :3
interesting eye style, and you did the funky handpads quite nicely.
is it just me or does anyone else think the furfluff on the tail almost has a dr suess look to it?
That is very nice. I'm not entirely sure what kind of a creature she is, though. Are those sheep eyes?
As I said at the SS thread- pure admiration for the ink,color and shading. But as I looked at it a second time I noticed that her right leg is a bit too high- if it was to start at about where her belly button is it would have looked better. The way it is now, it takes away the waist line.
Quote from: Kipiru on February 23, 2009, 02:35:08 PM
As I said at the SS thread- pure admiration for the ink,color and shading. But as I looked at it a second time I noticed that her right leg is a bit too high- if it was to start at about where her belly button is it would have looked better. The way it is now, it takes away the waist line.
Thank you so much :) As far as the waistline goes, oh god, that's one of the anatomy errors that bugs me about this picture. Ah well; I'll just have to avoid the same mistake in the next one.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 02:33:03 PM
That is very nice. I'm not entirely sure what kind of a creature she is, though. Are those sheep eyes?
Thank you as well c: Octavia is a species of Hoppin's own design.
The reference picture is here. (http://hoppin.deviantart.com/art/Octavia-Prof-102583866)
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 23, 2009, 02:31:18 PM
interesting eye style, and you did the funky handpads quite nicely.
is it just me or does anyone else think the furfluff on the tail almost has a dr suess look to it?
Thank you very much! I'm not so sure about a Dr. Seuss style, but I did have a lot of fun doing that tail. At least, up until the inconveniences of shading. :B
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 23, 2009, 02:29:43 PM
Great picture, Keats! I absolutely love your colouring and shading techniques. :3
Thanks, Ren :3 I'm still trying to get this coloring/shading technique right, but I think it's a major improvement over my old one.
I should get some Flogging Molly to listen to. ;-]
Very awesome pic. I love the eyes.
Looking at the belly line, her abdomen seems to posed as though her hips are cocked. But her thighs and crotch look as though she were standing upright, and bent her knees. the distance between her inseam and belly button (Which should be about a head height, if I am not mistaken) looks a little short. The shadow on the neck, for the sternomastoids, looks really broad too, like it's more U shaped then V.
Couldn't help but notice your comment on colored lines. Personally, I don't like them, but mostly for the reason that they leech the contrast out of a picture. Definition goes right out the window, details get hard to read, and the image looses a lot of it's overall boldness.
However, with the technique you're using here, you seem to be getting the best of both worlds. The outline is still bold, but the lining on the red fur on the torso is much less distracting then it would be if the lines were just black. It looks really good. IMHO, the face might be better off with more contrast between it and hair, but it would be kind of hard to make black lines look right with the hair.
That silky highlight on the poof of fur on her chest is just gorgeous, by the way.
Oh look! I'm alive!
And look!
I finished another commission!
GASP.
Commission #5: Tapewolf (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commissions/Commission-TapewolfWhee.jpg?t=1239543499)
Time Taken:- Everything: More than what was absolutely acceptable. Sorry, Tape.
Currently Listening To: "Glory" - Twelve Girls Band
Okay, I'm feeling a bit tired since I just woke up, but this is basically Tapewolf's commission. Is it finalized? No, not really. He added the lighting effects, specifically the darkness and such, and it's the completed version that he's using as the cover for his album. In case you guys are wondering about the weird shading, it's because the light source was supposed to be coming from behind the wolf... sort of.
I used to be really proud of this, but now I'm slightly dissatisfied. I think I can do better on the lineart (specifically for the background) nowadays. At least I'm good at drawing guns and pig anthros.
I like the windows and the wood patterns. Tablets are useful for scribbling shit.
I'M TIRED. I WANNA SLEEP. HAPPY EASTER, EVERYONE.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 12, 2009, 09:38:44 AM
Time Taken:
- Everything: More than what was absolutely acceptable. Sorry, Tape.
I think James is still working on the cover for my 2004 album, so it's not like you hold the record there :P
QuoteI used to be really proud of this, but now I'm slightly dissatisfied. I think I can do better on the lineart (specifically for the background) nowadays. At least I'm good at drawing guns and pig anthros.
That's always the way. I keep meaning to rerecord "Sacred Jaguar" off the first album because I could do a much better job now...
Anyway, thanks a lot for the album cover. I must get some booklets printed so I can take some copies to Anthrocon.
You also kept changing your mind before I could finish anything. :P
Quote from: James StarRunner on April 14, 2009, 04:46:53 AM
You also kept changing your mind before I could finish anything. :P
Actually, that wouldn't surprise me :rolleyes
Yay! Keaton lives!
I'm kinda curious, how old is the line art on this? I'm merely going off where you said you 'used' to be proud of it, and the fact that it doesn't quite look like the stuff you've worked on lately.
Great work as always. :)
Quote from: Mao Laoren on April 14, 2009, 08:16:15 AM
I'm kinda curious, how old is the line art on this?
The oldest version I have to hand - a pencil rendition of the wolf - is dated 22nd of August 2008.
; A; I have missed a LOT
...*cough* Anywho. WHOO! Lookin awesome, Keaton! Not much crit i can give but dayum, looking back you've improved by...a lot.
:)
I don't have any commissions with which to update this topic. So instead, I'll just post my contribution to the DMFA 1000th strip celebratory image. There's not really anything special about this picture other than:
- This is a PNG image; I added a transparent background so PBH could effortlessly move Fi onto the actual project.
- I like how the inking turned out.
- I like the outer glow and the clan marking as well.
As far as simple Warp-Aci drawings go, this is pretty satisfying. I'm posting this here separately since the compression combined with shrinking the actual picture made Fi rather... uh, hard to see.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commissions/FiFinished.png?t=1242600783)
Time Taken:- Drawing: idk, thirty minutes? :B
- Inking: Thirty minutes?
- Coloring: THIRTY FUCKING MINUTES
Currently Listening To: The sweet sound of skulls shattering in TF2. Nope, not creepy at all.
Oh, and I thought I'd post this as well. It's a heartfelt letter to the anonymous guy who smashed in my mother's car window last afternoon and stole her pocketbook. Ahem:
Dear Fuckhead,
Fuck you. What kind of loser do you have to be to steal from a car sitting in front of a
school parking lot? That is fucking low. After all of the stress my mom has gone through trying to help my school principal during this financial crisis - organizing fundraisers, planning parent-teacher conferences - this was the last fucking thing she needed, even if all this incident amounted to was a minor inconvenience. We're fucking lucky that we have such a good police force in this area and that we live in such a financially comfortable situation, and that my mom was carrying her purse which held
most of her credit cards. On a lesser note, this wasn't exactly a good experience for
me either, hence my near-homicidal wrath.
But don't worry! Eventually you will be whisked away from whatever pathetic life you're living and shunted into the loving sanctuary of the federal state prison. Because if you so much as breathe on the cards that were in my mom's purse, the police are going to come down on you so hard that your neck will break from the impact. Maybe you'll be discovered with cocaine in your pockets, thus compounding your sentence. Either way, I don't give a shit what happens to you or what sordid life you live outside of being a punk who steals from peoples' cars. I don't care if you have a wife and six fucking kids; if you actually cared about them or thought like a
rational human being you wouldn't do something so tremendously stupid that would impede your ability to provide for them.
I anxiously await the fuck-up that will result in your incarceration.
Hugs and Kisses,
Bigelow Tea
Mmmm. Shiny Fi...
That is a wonderful letter you wrote and I do believe your point is clearly shown. I'm sure the effer who received it loves it. I especially like where you wrote "Because if you so much as breathe on the cards that were in my mom's purse, the police are going to come down on you so hard that your neck will break from the impact." I don't know why or how people can be such freaking selfish idiots. I've had someone break into my car before and steal a 72 hour kit. What are you even going to do with that? Hideout for 3 days until the heat supposedly blows over? I really don't know what goes through these accursed people's minds. :januscat
Ouch sorry to hear that Keats people like that are pure slime....
But shiny shiny Fi tho :3
*glomps Keaton* :tighthug
Not much to comment on Fi- great, clean work as usual Keats. And as for the theft- we have a saying in Bulgaria (don't really know if it has a counterpart in English) " No good deed goes unpunished!"- I've found out that to be painfully true and as of recently so has you mom.
Quote from: Kipiru on May 21, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
"No good deed goes unpunished!"
Yes, that's in common use here too.
As for the theft, I'm not sure what to say. Sometimes people just grab anything they can in the hope they can make a few quid/dollars off it. It just sucks.
Fi is a nice rendition, though in terms of critique the nose looks maybe a little too human. That's the only thing which gives me pause.
You did that in 90 minutes? Wow! What's your secret?
I'll say it again. The technique is brilliant, but I have trouble swallowing Fi actually *giving* sweets away to someone else as opposed to eating it himself :P
An awesome picture, Keats. :) Though I have to agree with Tape, Fi's nose looks kinda human-like (also, his arms appear to be a wee bit too big, but that might be just me). And, sorry to hear that your mother got her pocketbook stolen. I hug you. :hug
THat's a very cute Fi pic! Also that sucks what happened to your mom Keats,My dad had his Colonoscopy papers stolen from him
That Fi is infinitely cute. -hugs it-. And again, I'm sorry to hear to hear about your Mom's car, but at least her finances are secure. :hug
I'm going to pretend he's eating Sherbet because Sherbet is delicious and awesome. :> (And ze picture is cute~)
And that sucks about your mom's pocketbook, Keats. It was probably some punk highschooler kid who thought he could make a quick buck. Kids these days are animals.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on May 21, 2009, 12:46:02 PM
Kids these days are animals.
Says the wolf to the Forum of The Forest :mowwink - but apart from this, I agree with you.
Quote from: Gabi on May 21, 2009, 11:26:17 AM
You did that in 90 minutes? Wow! What's your secret?
It's a lot easier than you think! Part of the quickness was due to the simplicity of the image, that I like inking, and it just needed to be flat-colored and nothing else. Mind you, I was being really really generous in my estimation and I've mostly forgotten how long it took. :B
I didn't take Fi's nose into consideration before all of the comments on it. Thanks for the critique, guys - I'll keep that in mind if I draw Warp-Aci again. Drawing Fi was fun so I wouldn't mind doing more.
Also, thanks to everyone for the overwhelming sympathy regarding the car robbery. :> :tighthug I'll probably tell you guys about updates, assuming the guy responsible gets caught. According to my Geometry teacher there was a homeless guy wandering around the parking lot this morning, peeking inside the car windows. He could be related to it.
It's been a long time since I last updated this topic, so I figured I'd update this topic with a few things. I'm working on the first of Pal's three commissions but it's not ready yet.
First thing first:
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Hounds/Constantineportraitdone.png)
Time Taken:* Drawing: Like... 1 hour? It's small!
* Inking: 2 hours. Again, a small image.
* Coloring: 1 hour. I mean, c'mon, there's no shading.
This is a picture of Constantine, a character of mine. He's basically a Houndoom, but I borrowed some anatomy lessons from studying some drawings of gray wolves. Uh, he's kind of a sparkledog. :< I AM SO SORRY.
As for more information about Constantine... he's an RP character from
a website that I co-administrate. (http://fallen-star.proboards.com/index.cgi) He's supposed to be the Alpha Male of his pack.
The picture was done as a portrait for Constantine's character records. I have 21 more to finish. I'm extremely pleased with how this one turned out; I think it's one of my best inking jobs. I'm a little miffed with the scruff around Constantine's throat, since it looks too poky, but that's something I'll improve next time.
SECOND THING:
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/HazBadgeFinalized.png)
* Drawing: 1 hour.
* Inking: Uh.. yeah, I think another hour.
* Coloring: Durr 2 hours.
AND HERE'S HAZ'S CON BADGE. I like how the lineart turned out. Too bad this thing
WASN'T DONE BEFORE AC oh god I suck SO MUCH. ARGH.
Either way, art fix. Yay. Now back to commissions.
Yay, new Keatonarts! :D Both pictures are neat, but I particularly like that chilly look of Constantine's.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 22, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Uh, he's kind of a sparkledog. :< I AM SO SORRY.
Unforgivable. >:[
..Just kidding. :B
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 22, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Uh, he's kind of a sparkledog. :< I AM SO SORRY.
Do I want to know what one of those is?
Anyway, nice to see more art from you. For the conbadge, my only criticism is that the name should probably have a black outline to separate it from the rest of the image. The name should stand out so you can see who it is from a distance. Oh, there's also a slight kink in his mouth, not sure whether that's intentional or not.
With Constantine, I am finding it a little difficult to understand the left hand side of the picture - are those legs, like he's rolling over or something? ...actually now I think about it, those are wings, right?
Apart from that, it looks pretty good. And as you say, the inking is excellent.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 22, 2009, 08:54:58 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 22, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Uh, he's kind of a sparkledog. :< I AM SO SORRY.
Do I want to know what one of those is?
Well, Twilight is about sparkle vampires, so... ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 22, 2009, 08:54:58 AM
Do I want to know what one of those is?
NO
QuoteAnyway, nice to see more art from you. For the conbadge, my only criticism is that the name should probably have a black outline to separate it from the rest of the image. The name should stand out so you can see who it is from a distance. Oh, there's also a slight kink in his mouth, not sure whether that's intentional or not.
The kink was kind of intentional, but I think I see what you mean with the name - I'll probably change that around to include what you've suggested. Thanks a lot for that, since I was concerned with the readability.
QuoteWith Constantine, I am finding it a little difficult to understand the left hand side of the picture - are those legs, like he's rolling over or something? ...actually now I think about it, those are wings, right?
Apart from that, it looks pretty good. And as you say, the inking is excellent.
Those are indeed his wings - I actually was wondering if I should have pointed that out. XD
Also, thanks for the compliments, Ren and Tape. >:3 I WOULD SAY MORE BUT I AM TIRED. I HAVE A COLD. IT SAPS MY BRAIN.
Hey, who are you? I don't think I've seen you in the Tower of Art before....
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 22, 2009, 09:13:33 AM
I HAVE A COLD. IT SAPS MY BRAIN.
Cold sappin' your brahn? Cold must be a spah! :O (Though that would mean that your brain is a sentry, which makes no sense, unless you can think people to death, like Psycho Mantis :B).
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 22, 2009, 09:12:28 AM
Well, Twilight is about sparkle vampires, so... ;-]
Yeah, that describes it pretty well. :B
Quote from: Mao Laoren on July 22, 2009, 09:27:59 AM
Hey, who are you? I don't think I've seen you in the Tower of Art before....
...What kind of heresy is this? >:[ ( :B )
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 22, 2009, 08:34:56 AMToo bad this thing WASN'T DONE BEFORE AC oh god I suck SO MUCH. ARGH.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on July 22, 2009, 08:46:29 AMUnforgivable. >:[
And I still don't have my sandwich! D:< (See: poll)
Keatonarts getting better, really.
Whoa...Ink? Is...is that you??? :disbelief
No, tech. That's Magic.
See, he even says he doesn't do the Evil Doctor thing anymore.
;-]
New poll, YOU GUYS HAD BETTER VOTE.
Thank you for unlocking my thread, Tape! To everyone else, sorry I haven't updated with any decent artwork. My muse was dead and dry for a long time and it's only just recently been revived. Strangely, this is as I'm becoming acclimated to my new medication.
I don't have anything interesting with which to update this thread. All I have is some old artwork to tide you guys over until I have Paladin's commission and guest art for Tapewolf finished.
CLICK HERE (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/FSP-Portrait-2-Dietricha-139487845)
Time Taken:-
Everything: SHIT I FORGOT
Currently Listening To: Some crap by Nickelback. Jesus Christ, I'm the only asshole on the planet who still likes Nickelback.
All the relevant information is on the other end of that link.
Actually, I've been really satisfied with my art lately because I've been actively looking for reference material and paying more attention to anatomy. It makes all the difference, in my opinion, but you guys are the judge of that. It just makes me feel like I'm gradually making some improvements. I don't have anything to show for it
just yet but when it's ready to be showed, I hope you guys will think I improved since the day I started showing you all those godawful pseudo-anorexic figures.
"I mean, good god, I like to think that I follow John Locke's positive philosophy of humanity and even I can admit that people can be dickheads."
*snicker*
I settle for "people are dicks" and leave it at that. No philosophy needed...
As for the image... the face seems a bit flat to me, perhaps in the angle of the eyes? Other than that, it's a whole heck of a lot better than the anorexia, so you're at least getting there...
:tighthug
First of all, i still listen to Nickleback too... Burn it to the ground, Awesome song...
secondly, those eyes are narfing adorable... and while slightly too far apart, as you said... still very well done
Glad your muse is back keaty, and i look forward to seeing what your muse comes up with.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 07, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
"I mean, good god, I like to think that I follow John Locke's positive philosophy of humanity and even I can admit that people can be dickheads."
*snicker*
I settle for "people are dicks" and leave it at that. No philosophy needed...
Hey, not all people are dicks!
There are some assholes and pussies, too.
(please someone get that reference please please please)
QuoteAs for the image... the face seems a bit flat to me, perhaps in the angle of the eyes? Other than that, it's a whole heck of a lot better than the anorexia, so you're at least getting there...
I think you're right about the critique. I think it's the angle of the eye or maybe the flat dimple that throws the picture off... uh, I'll figure that out later and do some pondering about how I can fix it. I probably will make sure I don't make the same mistake in the future.
Thanks a lot for the compliments too, dude. c:
Quote from: Basilisk on October 07, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
:tighthug
First of all, i still listen to Nickleback too... Burn it to the ground, Awesome song...
secondly, those eyes are narfing adorable... and while slightly too far apart, as you said... still very well done
Glad your muse is back keaty, and i look forward to seeing what your muse comes up with.
Aww, thanks, Bas. :tighthug
(Actually, I think I like Nickelback's older stuff the most. Generic sound or not, Silver Side Up is one of the most solid albums I've ever listened to.)
As for the eyes, yeah, they definitely are too far apart now that I look at it. I think that's a problem with all of my figures nowadays, but that's what Google Images is for. I'm really glad you like the picture, though. :3 I also hope you and everyone else will enjoy the pictures to come.
By the way, guys, here's a bit of a blast from the past.
My first picture of Dietricha. (http://keatontheblackjackal.deviantart.com/art/Dietricha-59573154) Compare and contrast with the new one for extra fun.
Hmm, I'm comparing the two (old and new version) and to be honest it's a close call. The new one does seem to be technically better but I do prefer the eye shape in the older version. Wolves just don't have round eyes and the way I see it you're crossing the line between cartoonishness and realism in such a way that it's noticeable. To me, at least.
However, there is certainly something screwy in the left eye (right side of picture) in the 2007 one.
The other thing which I think detracts from the new version is the expression - I prefer the slightly coy look in the older one, and by comparison it makes the newer one look a little bland, or dopey. Again, this isn't necessarily wrong, it's just the way I'm seeing it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 07, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Hmm, I'm comparing the two (old and new version) and to be honest it's a close call. The new one does seem to be technically better but I do prefer the eye shape in the older version. Wolves just don't have round eyes and the way I see it you're crossing the line between cartoonishness and realism in such a way that it's noticeable. To me, at least.
I see where you're coming from, but I just can't bring myself to like the eye shape in the last picture because the eyes are too disproportionately large and
human. I just looked up a picture of a wolf's eye shape and
this is what I got (http://www.susanafflerbach.com/I_See_You__Wolf_Eyes__800x323.jpg). So while Dietricha's eyes aren't completely accurate in the new picture, they are closer to reality than in the older image. I was kind of experimenting with a cartoony-realistic style that would hopefully be fairly expressive.
QuoteThe other thing which I think detracts from the new version is the expression - I prefer the slightly coy look in the older one, and by comparison it makes the newer one look a little bland, or dopey. Again, this isn't necessarily wrong, it's just the way I'm seeing it.
I think I see where you're coming from here. Dietricha's coy expression is a lot more vibrant than the more mellow one in the new picture, but the dopiness you described is actually something I was deliberately trying to do. :B I wanted Dietricha to look a bit like an obedient, domesticated dog in her mannerisms, which is the kind of human-reverence that's closer to her actual personality. If she tried to act coyly or seductive in the slightest, she'd probably trip over her own feet in the middle of her strutting.
By the way, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm arguing with you. I
do not mean to do that D: I actually really appreciate your feedback. I just figured that I'd give a thorough response.
OH BOY I GET THE CRITIQUE KEATON'S STUFF THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT! : DDDD
*ahem* well, the ups to the picture are possibly the coloring and the lineart, which are great! But something about the Muzzle feels a bit...off. : <
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 07, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
I see where you're coming from, but I just can't bring myself to like the eye shape in the last picture because the eyes are too disproportionately large and human. I just looked up a picture of a wolf's eye shape and this is what I got (http://www.susanafflerbach.com/I_See_You__Wolf_Eyes__800x323.jpg).
Right. The reference I have has a longer eye (I mean, obviously the eyeball is still round, but the black traces are larger and more almond-shaped). That's not an online reference and it's actually a painting so who knows, the artist could have messed up. Or it could be a different wolf species.
And yes, I guess the eyes are a bit on the large side. Actually I remember now, that used to be something of a problem with your eyes a few years back. I hadn't noticed but you seem to have overcome it, which is cool.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 07, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
OH BOY I GET THE CRITIQUE KEATON'S STUFF THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT! : DDDD
*ahem* well, the ups to the picture are possibly the coloring and the lineart, which are great! But something about the Muzzle feels a bit...off. : <
WOO BABY >:3
I think I understand where the muzzle thing is coming from. It might be the eyes not completely lining up with the perspective created by the angle of the muzzle or something. The angle of Dietricha's head was a bit of a challenge for me.
Thank you for the critique and the compliments~ :boogie
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 07, 2009, 07:23:21 PMAnd yes, I guess the eyes are a bit on the large side. Actually I remember now, that used to be something of a problem with your eyes a few years back. I hadn't noticed but you seem to have overcome it, which is cool.
Haha, thanks. Actually, I looked back on some of the older pictures with the problem you mentioned. I think a blood vessel in one of my eyes just popped from the hideousness of it all.
Try this:
http://images-3.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/1560543-1-eye-of-the-wolf.jpg
...compare that with yours.
OOo!!! Man... that's so freakin cute! :giggle I love the hat-in-mouth :3
P's don't like D's because P's get effed by D's..... but D's also eff A's chuck! :paranoid
Watch out! That jackal's got a gulper eel! And she's not afraid to use it! (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o314/Gaazmazk/babygotgulpereel.jpg?t=1255476170)
Trying my hand at getting some drawing going again with this most non-clean sketch of Keaton holding a specimen of saccopharyngiformes, what with having the most boring class ever today. Body and posture could be better? I don't quite know. Either way, I've realized I should be doing a lot more drawing for some friends... And that maybe I ought to develop a more cartoonish style, as my current one feels so stiff...
The eel is of no significance. Something else is going there, and I just doodled it.
O HAY GUISE I GOT A PREVIEW FOR YOU.
CLICK HERE (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/Keaton_Mask/Commissions/Liebeneedstobeclotheddone.jpg?t=1256130423)
Not entirely safe for work due to nudity.
Time Taken:* Everything: NO CLUE. NEXT QUESTION?
Currently Listening To: The copying machine
I can't remember if I took my ADD medication this morning. FFFFF--
Okay, but, anyway. This is a preview of the first of Paladin Sheppard's commissions. When the uncolored lineart is finished, there will be a background and his avatar/main character, Paladin included in the image. I just figured I'd draw my character Liebe first since that'd give me something to work around. Liebe will also be clothed. (For you funnymen out there, YES SHE DOES NEED IT) The picture as a whole will be inked and colored, which will allow me to clean up the sketches.
I'm... really happy with the anatomy. I quizzed a lot of people on how it looked and they gave me the go-ahead, so I guess I have reason to be satisfied. I used a tutorial on DeviantArt as guidance for how to draw a proper humanoid face, and looked at a friend's redlining work as a reference for the general anatomy. It was very much a trial and error process.
...Not sure if I want constructive criticism or not on this. Uhhhh go ahead, and I'll try to correct things as I work, but I'm eager to get this shit finished :B
Jesus christ I love drawing boobs.
Thanks to Pal for giving me permission to post this. <3
Not entirely safe for work.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 21, 2009, 09:16:08 AM
Not entirely safe for work.
FFFFFF I'm so sorry about that. It's been fixed with a warning now.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 21, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
Jesus christ I love drawing boobs.
...
TOTES NOT A LESBIAN
But really, they
are fun. I mentioned this to Amber on one of her FA submissions. When you start to understand boob physics, like how they lift with the collarbone/arms and conform to gravity's effects, drawing them gets even more interesting.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
TOTES NOT A LESBIAN
But really, they are fun. I mentioned this to Amber on one of her FA submissions. When you start to understand boob physics, like how they lift with the collarbone/arms and conform to gravity's effects, drawing them gets even more interesting.
...
Nope, don't have to say a word. ;-]
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
Jesus christ I love drawing boobs.
Yeah.. me too. I like a lot of things about boobs.
I... I just like boobs in general I think. <3
Sweet picture Keaton, you going to be around on msn any this evening? I need your help with something...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 21, 2009, 09:30:46 AM
Nope, don't have to say a word. ;-]
I will interpret that as a proclamation of my victory. HAHA. Keaton: 1, Llearch: 0.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on October 21, 2009, 09:38:56 AM
Yeah.. me too. I like a lot of things about boobs.
I... I just like boobs in general I think. <3
Sweet picture Keaton, you going to be around on msn any this evening? I need your help with something...
Yeah you would. YOU CHAUVINISTIC PIG. >:[ How dare you find mammaries appealing in the slightest.
But seriously, no problem. c: I'll be there tonight.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:48:29 AM
Yeah you would. YOU CHAUVINISTIC PIG. >:[ How dare you find mammaries appealing in the slightest.
It's true. I'm a pig. I'm also a bit of a masochist. Could you yell at me some more please? Kthx.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:48:29 AM
But seriously, no problem. c: I'll be there tonight.
Awesome. :3 Much love. <3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:48:29 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 21, 2009, 09:30:46 AM
Nope, don't have to say a word. ;-]
I will interpret that as a proclamation of my victory. HAHA. Keaton: 1, Llearch: 0.
You do that. It's as right as anything else you've said in the last few minutes. ;-]
Okay, managed to sneak a glance at it. I'm not entirely sure quite how big headwings should be, and Amber has been varying the size somewhat of late, but I am of the opinion they are a little small, they don't seem to clear the ears fully. I don't know if it's intentional or not.
I know this is lame, but for stuff like that I say to go with the rule of cool:
"If it looks damn cool, then that's how it's supposed to be. T'hell with physics, logic and reality."
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 21, 2009, 10:25:19 AM
Okay, managed to sneak a glance at it. I'm not entirely sure quite how big headwings should be, and Amber has been varying the size somewhat of late, but I am of the opinion they are a little small, they don't seem to clear the ears fully. I don't know if it's intentional or not.
Just remember, if the character is Dan's size, the headwings fit on a character Wildy's size as standard wings.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
I can't remember if I took my ADD medication this morning. FFFFF--
That's something that always bugged me. How do they expect you to remember to take ADD meds when you have ADD?
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
Jesus christ I love drawing boobs.
I'll raise a glass to that!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
...Not sure if I want constructive criticism or not on this. Uhhhh go ahead, and I'll try to correct things as I work, but I'm eager to get this shit finished
Can't... resist... making comments...The shoulders look really wide on her, but I think this is mostly due to the width of the neck. In
realistic anatomy, the neck is about as wide as the head, which is about one third of the width of the shoulders. I think the shoulder on the left is too far out, too.
Her pose seems kind of stiff, too. The position of the arm holding the book and her legs don't look very relaxed.
On the other hand, gawds I love her facial expression. And her hair.
And she has cute feet.
I feel like I'm forgetting something...
Oh, right. Yay,
bewbs! :U {Drool.)
Quote from: Mao Laoren on October 21, 2009, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on October 21, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
Jesus christ I love drawing boobs.
Yeah.. me too. I like a lot of things about boobs.
I... I just like boobs in general I think. <3
Good lord, man! Share the love!
Oh, and great pic Keats, I find it kind of refreshing to see an attempt at a classic proportions body- you did that terrific, though I think you are still on the way of working it in completely with the idea of anthropomorphs. Still, it looks awesome.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 21, 2009, 10:25:19 AM
Okay, managed to sneak a glance at it. I'm not entirely sure quite how big headwings should be, and Amber has been varying the size somewhat of late, but I am of the opinion they are a little small, they don't seem to clear the ears fully. I don't know if it's intentional or not.
I think I have an explanation as to why the head-wings look so disproportionately small: I meant for them to be folded. XD Uhhh I hope that works.
EDIT: I fixed them! I think I'll scan it later.
Quote from: WhiteFox on October 21, 2009, 06:36:41 PM
That's something that always bugged me. How do they expect you to remember to take ADD meds when you have ADD?
Well to be fair, I normally remember without fail because it's a perpetual routine in my life. :B
QuoteThe shoulders look really wide on her, but I think this is mostly due to the width of the neck. In realistic anatomy, the neck is about as wide as the head, which is about one third of the width of the shoulders. I think the shoulder on the left is too far out, too.
Her pose seems kind of stiff, too. The position of the arm holding the book and her legs don't look very relaxed.
I think I can fix the left shoulder.... I agree with the rest of your critique, too, so thank you for the input. c: The pose does look stiff, but as far as anatomy goes I think this is probably one of my better works. I'll keep all of this in mind, especially the info you provided on the necks, which is going to be tremendously useful. I'm still trying to work out how to draw reasonably-styled faces/necks. :B Not sure about the legs, though, because they're supposed to be drawn up slightly and... uh, the feet are resting on the ground in front of the character.
QuoteOn the other hand, gawds I love her facial expression. And her hair.
And she has cute feet.
Haha, thank you XD I was worried her facial expression was going to turn out kind of bland. I like drawing hair... and I was also worried about the feet, so the fact you complimented them makes me feel a lot more relaxed.
Thanks for all the comments! This is really helpful. *thumbs up*
Quote from: Kipiru on October 22, 2009, 10:46:32 AM
Good lord, man! Share the love!
Oh, and great pic Keats, I find it kind of refreshing to see an attempt at a classic proportions body- you did that terrific, though I think you are still on the way of working it in completely with the idea of anthropomorphs. Still, it looks awesome.
Thanks, Kipiru! :3 And yeah, I'm still trying to get the hang of proper anatomy (I used to improvise without any references) while simultaneously working it into anthropomorphic characters' designs. So it's definitely not perfect, but if I'm making improvements I'm definitely overjoyed.