I get the feeling Abel would rather not have this conversation in public, but it's hiiighly unlikely this conversation would even happen if not for Wildy "encouraging" it to, and that he doesn't want to put up with whatever she comes up with if this tactic fails.
Frankly I'm surprised she hasn't just physically thrown them at each other yet, anyway. Which may be what Abel is trying to prevent.
Assuming this doesn't blow up - figuratively or literally - I expect the person to be happiest about it all will be... Mink. Mink would go supernova at the idea of Abel having someone special.
Hmm... what that word I'm looking for... oh yes...
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Quote from: Cassi-kun on January 30, 2017, 05:31:55 AM
I get the feeling Abel would rather not have this conversation in public, but it's hiiighly unlikely this conversation would even happen if not for Wildy "encouraging" it to, and that he doesn't want to put up with whatever she comes up with if this tactic fails.
Frankly I'm surprised she hasn't just physically thrown them at each other yet, anyway. Which may be what Abel is trying to prevent.
Nobody tell Wildy about that duct tape Jyrras invented! She would tape him and Abel together until they were a couple!
Wait... why am I against this?!?
They would make quite a cute couple. Breaking Jy's Batchelor-of-the-year status would be dangerous, mind.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 30, 2017, 06:22:42 AM
They would make quite a cute couple. Breaking Jy's Batchelor-of-the-year status would be dangerous, mind.
The cutest!
I think it would just disqualify him from winning again - if they can announce it without consulting him, it seems pretty unfair to dictate the terms of the prize AFTER telling him he won. Though it was only meant as a delay tactic to begin with...
Makes me wonder if any random characters would fight Abel later over Jyrras' hand, thanks to the Bachelor of the Year status being dispelled. Then again, I do not think the competition was that big on proactivity while he was/is still a famous Bachelor. Unless, of course, his followers were just waiting for someone to do the first hit, so that they later pounce on that person. Would demons or other creatures consider that as a "love" tactic?
I see Jyrras wasn't quite ready for such a question to be asked.
...Ok. Who the hell is that talking to Jyrras and what has he done with the real Abel?
You guys might be reading a bit too far into it. It might not even necessarily be a "yo you wanna hook up then?" question but rather a "do you actually have an interest in me or is this just Wildy deciding that you and I should be together even though neither of us are interested?"
... of course I'm hoping for the former, because much like Wildy, I think they'd be quite good for each other...
(and speaking from personal experience, asexual =/= aromantic! even though Abel has professed his sexuality as Not Interested, he might not be aromantic as well - he's just never had the opportunity to express affection with someone who isn't possibly using him for his tasty, tasty emotions or just is that way with everyone [cough, mink, cough, i love you though never change precious baby]. voluntarily exiling himself to a school filled with nothing but Cubi means he probably never could trust anyone fully, especially since even for as much as he tells Dan that individual Cubi are jerks and not the race as a whole, I don't doubt there's some lingering repressed trauma about his dad pretending to be a loving father for literally decades and then immediately ditching that whole persona as soon as the headwings came in.)
Quote from: katasev on January 30, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
You guys might be reading a bit too far into it. It might not even necessarily be a "yo you wanna hook up then?" question but rather a "do you actually have an interest in me or is this just Wildy deciding that you and I should be together even though neither of us are interested?"
That was my first thought, but that smile on Abel's face gives me a lot of pause. I'd have assumed that it would be a more serious expression if the question was purely academic.
What I wouldn't see Abel doing is getting Jyrras' hopes up and dashing them - the parallels with his father would be obvious and he's made it clear that's not how he wants to roll.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 30, 2017, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: katasev on January 30, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
You guys might be reading a bit too far into it. It might not even necessarily be a "yo you wanna hook up then?" question but rather a "do you actually have an interest in me or is this just Wildy deciding that you and I should be together even though neither of us are interested?"
That was my first thought, but that smile on Abel's face gives me a lot of pause. I'd have assumed that it would be a more serious expression if the question was purely academic.
What I wouldn't see Abel doing is getting Jyrras' hopes up and dashing them - the parallels with his father would be obvious and he's made it clear that's not how he wants to roll.
Hm hmm!! An interesting point. Reading the whole page as a piece again, I wonder if it could also mean "Do you want to (pretend to hook up so Wildy will be happy and get off our backs)?" I definitely don't think he would intend to lead him on - he's already told Jyrras specifically about being ace, but if this were a mutual agreement of convenience, I don't think he'd see it that way.
Of course, the shipper heart in me is clinging tooth-and-nail to the idea that it means "Do you want to (try this relationship thing out for real and see how it goes)?" because Abel could use someone in his corner who genuinely loves him without any weird pretenses or subtexts. Mink's Ultimate Friendship Cannon of Platonic Love for All certainly worked wonders on him.
Asexual doesn't mean he's not interested in relationships at all, just not sex! There's asexuals out there who are glad to have sex anyway if their partner really wants to - and if Abel isn't one of them, that seems like something he'd bring up pretty quickly.
I think he's serious, he just proposed it so abruptly to troll Jyrras.
Leave it to Abel manage to be a troll and semi-serious at the same time.
I'm really curious how this turns out though.
... not difficult at all, Mr. Jyrras. To close the deal, all you gotta do is sign here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_608.php), here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1188.php) and here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1282.php)! :mowwink
Quote from: KaideGirault on January 30, 2017, 03:29:50 PMI'm really curious how this turns out though.
Fa'Lina forcibly drags both of them to SAIA so Mink can hug them. And also to embarrass Abel in front of Jyrras.
I'm a little scared. I'm not worried about this outcome or circumstances, I think Abel's being serious.
I'm just. Still worried about. This (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1703.php). Just feeling like a bit of a red flag. A nice long anticipated ship comes together, and we're all feeling good, but then the good feelings are dashed. By a dragon.
Oh man, how many years have I been waiting for this moment? :hug
If there's a scene change, I'm going to die. :U
All aboard the ship everybody! you too! move it! *cracks the whip*
Kinda thinking that Destania will be pissed - not only Aniz but now his son as well having serious relationships outside of her. I can see her taking this as a personal insult, considering how irrational she already is towards Abel.
Maybe the recent constant threat of being attacked or annihilated made Abel rethink how he felt about things. People oft have a change of heart on things when life kicks us around. Although there is a chance that Abel will wind up not wanting it anyway in the end but that's his call. :mowsad Either way I would absolutely love to see those two being adorable with eachother.
Quote from: Jasonrevall on January 30, 2017, 09:01:24 PM
Maybe the recent constant threat of being attacked or annihilated made Abel rethink how he felt about things. People oft have a change of heart on things when life kicks us around. Although there is a chance that Abel will wind up not wanting it anyway in the end but that's his call. :mowsad Either way I would absolutely love to see those two being adorable with eachother.
It could just be him finally letting himself warm up to people. His father only died "recently" when one considers the average Cubi lifespan, and it seems like Abel felt he didn't deserve affection after what happened to Hennya and May? Having Destania so unpredictably on his case over the centuries probably didn't motivate him to spend much time with others, either.
Quote from: Cassi-kun on January 30, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: KaideGirault on January 30, 2017, 03:29:50 PMI'm really curious how this turns out though.
Fa'Lina forcibly drags both of them to SAIA so Mink can hug them. And also to embarrass Abel in front of Jyrras.
Fair enough. Still excited to see it happen though.
Pretty sure snorfing your drink isn't the best way to start the conversation.
So I guess that makes me the only one expressly rooting against this ship huh?
It's kind of hard to describe, but I don't think either of them would grow much as people from that sort of relationship.
Maybe I'm biassed because gay stuff makes me feel sick.
Maybe, huh?
Yikes dude
Do you... do you have any reason besides "gay" to think they wouldn't grow from this relationship? Because that's a conversation most of us would probably be interested in having.
Oh I have reasons. It's just I've checked and not found words for them. It's really infuriating to be able to see where relationships are going, but being unable to give a better answer than 'reasons'.
My reasons are related to why I don't subscribe to the gender non binary. But that's an incredibly long an incoherent rant to try and describe.
The most wordable thing wrong with that relationship, is that they wouldn't 'push' each other in any of the right ways. I think they'd grow just as well being friends as lovers, and then not take up what in a healthy relationship can only be one slot.
This probably doesn't make much sense without the weird colors and citation going on inside my head.
...you know that just because you think something doesn't mean you have to post it, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/rLYdJmi.png)
It is true, but honestly it's better for you to know the really good/bad parts of me early.
That and if all the discussion is about a ship I don't like then I'm getting less than nothing while I wait for the topic to change to something else.
Of course while writing this I realized I can just ignore the conversations that happens in until we get to world-building or other topics I like. Which I guess is also literally what you just said. :S
Ive tried coming up with a response to this and hardly can. I've tried going through the comic to provide evidence for why they might make a bad ship and I can't find it. Literally just reading the comic I keep thinking "wow, what a healthy relationship these two have!". So in the end i'm just going to conclude that you are entirely bias because 'gay stuff makes you feel sick'. What you tried to articulate doesn't even make any sense. Entering a romantic relationship isn't going to change their whole dynamic you know. Yeah, they're great friends and have helped each other grow as people great by being great friends, but the funny thing about romantic partners? Ideally, they're someone who you're compatible with as a friend.
Quote from: Kenik on February 01, 2017, 03:32:28 AM
My reasons are related to why I don't subscribe to the gender non binary. But that's an incredibly long an incoherent rant to try and describe.
Take that to the topic non-specific board (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html). Because you can bet that that's a discussion I, Puyon Non-Binary McNon-Binaryson, am interested in having. Unless you stated that, similar to how you did for ""gay stuff"", just so you can say "I hate non-binary people", in which case just take a long and hard moment to consider why saying any of those things was actually necessary.
Quote from: Cassi-kun on January 30, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
Kinda thinking that Destania will be pissed - not only Aniz but now his son as well having serious relationships outside of her. I can see her taking this as a personal insult, considering how irrational she already is towards Abel.
Oh she will be more than pissed. Since Jyrras's status currently makes him untouchable and it seems to spread to those he is near at the time, being in a relationship with Abel would make any attack on him possibly an attack on Jyrras by extension. And that may put an end to any plans Hizel has for the time being, which any plans of his involving Abel are by extension a thing Destania wants.
Quote from: AzureEdge on February 01, 2017, 12:55:03 PM
Since Jyrras's status currently makes him untouchable and it seems to spread to those he is near at the time, being in a relationship with Abel would make any attack on him possibly an attack on Jyrras by extension. And that may put an end to any plans Hizel has for the time being, which any plans of his involving Abel are by extension a thing Destania wants.
I wouldn't bet on that. Unless Hizell is aware that Jyrras' protected status was instigated by the Fae, all it will mean to him is that Jy is under the protection of Zinvth. If Zinvth and Hizell came to blows, I would not put money on the city coming out on top.
Could go either way. We haven't seen that much of Zinvths upper echelons yet, yeah? So many demons, they might have been preparing and have something up their sleeves...
OK I just want to see Kria in a throwdown with a dragon. Let me have this!!
I wonder how strong a "weak" dragon would still really be. The [presumably] weakest dragon we've seen is Pyro, who hasn't expressed any special power except physically, once.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2017, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: AzureEdge on February 01, 2017, 12:55:03 PM
Since Jyrras's status currently makes him untouchable and it seems to spread to those he is near at the time, being in a relationship with Abel would make any attack on him possibly an attack on Jyrras by extension. And that may put an end to any plans Hizel has for the time being, which any plans of his involving Abel are by extension a thing Destania wants.
I wouldn't bet on that. Unless Hizell is aware that Jyrras' protected status was instigated by the Fae, all it will mean to him is that Jy is under the protection of Zinvth. If Zinvth and Hizell came to blows, I would not put money on the city coming out on top.
Considering Mab seems to know when things will happen ahead of time when in the Fae Realm and seems to have Pip to steer her in the right direction when it calls for it in the normal world, sans what happened during Abel's Birthday, I would assume if Jyrras was in any real danger right now from being with Abel at what is to be ground Zero at an attack by Hizell, she would not be watching movies with Pyro and Lexi as Pip knows how important Jyrras is for whatever Mab has been planning for who knows how long.
I intended to draw something like this and add it to my rotating stock of avatars earlier in the week, but then my computer went cactus which threw the whole week off. But now... hey it makes a good warmup while getting used to my temporary replacement:
(http://oekaki.dhscomix.com/avatar/gay4abel2.png)
Feels like ages since I've drawn one of those avatars!
Quote from: AzureEdge on February 02, 2017, 12:04:50 AM
Considering Mab seems to know when things will happen ahead of time when in the Fae Realm and seems to have Pip to steer her in the right direction when it calls for it in the normal world, sans what happened during Abel's Birthday, I would assume if Jyrras was in any real danger right now from being with Abel at what is to be ground Zero at an attack by Hizell, she would not be watching movies with Pyro and Lexi as Pip knows how important Jyrras is for whatever Mab has been planning for who knows how long.
I wonder though... Pip seems quite happy to steer her in the wrong direction sometimes. Like happily letting her fly to the moons when she would perhaps more usefully have been occupied at the lake when those adventurers turned up. Her and Pip seem to have some differing goals at points, while Pip knows that Jyrras is important, I don't know that his end goals necessarily involve keeping him alive.
And Mab does know everything, but not while in Furrae, which makes things a bit more finnicky. So many possibilities for things to wrong, mwahaha.
Quote from: Merlin on February 02, 2017, 01:35:06 AM
I wonder though... Pip seems quite happy to steer her in the wrong direction sometimes. Like happily letting her fly to the moons when she would perhaps more usefully have been occupied at the lake when those adventurers turned up. Her and Pip seem to have some differing goals at points, while Pip knows that Jyrras is important, I don't know that his end goals necessarily involve keeping him alive.
I think Pip would be only too happy to see Abel die. I suspect that he's a temporarily-embarrassed dragon, possibly one of Hizell's 'destroyed' children. He's constantly been attacking Dan.
As regards Hizell vs Zinvth, don't forget that Hizell quite likely one of the top-tier, multidimensional dragons who is on par with the Fae. I wouldn't see the city standing much chance.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 02, 2017, 04:25:14 AM
I think Pip would be only too happy to see Abel die. I suspect that he's a temporarily-embarrassed dragon, possibly one of Hizell's 'destroyed' children. He's constantly been attacking Dan.
Interesting, I hadn't considered that...
This scene was..albeit very satisfying for the shipper in me, just seems sort of. .out of character for Abel. not just because with hundreds of years of living that he probably Knows that Jyras likes him, but to ask it just to (possibly) out him doesn't seem like it'd be in his repertoire. To be so blunt with a question about feelings is one thing, but to also do so to Jyras, the only one he's literally threatened to protect? I dunno, presonally I feel something like this, taking into consideration of who Abel Is, is a defensive/agitated question of someone whose on the cusp of accusing someone of liking them, rather than building up to such a question, one with good intention; say after a few drinks.
TLDR; the whole interaction feels like it's Wildy asking the question, not Abel x: